1 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:17,760 It's a privilege to be here and thank you for welcoming. 2 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,480 It's so good to see your smiles. 3 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,670 This is my first time in Ireland and I only know about the 4 00:00:28,670 --> 00:00:29,670 country where Bogi. 5 00:00:29,670 --> 00:00:36,630 My wife told me that it's a wonderful green country with nice, 6 00:00:36,630 --> 00:00:37,550 welcoming people. 7 00:00:37,790 --> 00:00:39,310 So, yeah, that's true. 8 00:00:40,510 --> 00:00:44,350 And let's turn to God's word. 9 00:00:48,750 --> 00:00:52,430 From what we have already heard from Acts, chapter four. 10 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:02,080 I need some help and I would like to read from my Bible. 11 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,760 But how can we put. 12 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,040 Oh, they see it and I see myself. 13 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,080 Yeah, perfect. 14 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,840 So I would like to read from my bible. 15 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,800 It's chapter four. 16 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:22,760 And I will just highlight verses 11 and 12. 17 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:29,240 This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, 18 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,240 which has become the cornerstone. 19 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,720 And there is salvation in no one else. 20 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,800 For there is no other name under heaven given among men, by 21 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,500 which we must be saved. 22 00:01:46,460 --> 00:01:53,900 So what you can see on these pictures is the cornerstone. 23 00:01:55,340 --> 00:02:02,300 And as the apostles are standing before the great Sanhedrin, 24 00:02:02,540 --> 00:02:09,660 the great Council of Jerusalem, investigated, they hear 25 00:02:09,900 --> 00:02:13,080 that what you are doing is really nice. 26 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,400 Oh, that's what I hear regularly. 27 00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:17,480 What you are doing is nice. 28 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:18,600 You are a good person. 29 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,280 But why do you bother this Jesus thing? 30 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,040 Why don't you just stop that one? 31 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,520 That's nice, what you do for Jewish people, that you are a friend 32 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:34,840 of many Jewish people and you help many of them. 33 00:02:38,140 --> 00:02:41,260 Your wife sings wonderful Hebrew songs. 34 00:02:41,260 --> 00:02:44,300 But why do you bother this Jesus thing? 35 00:02:44,300 --> 00:02:45,420 Why don't you just stop? 36 00:02:45,500 --> 00:02:49,340 Because it's not polite for them. 37 00:02:50,140 --> 00:02:54,860 So that's what the Son had drink toward to the apostles as well. 38 00:02:54,860 --> 00:02:59,500 You hear this man, and he is healed. 39 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:00,300 And that's nice. 40 00:03:00,860 --> 00:03:01,740 We like that. 41 00:03:02,470 --> 00:03:04,790 But why do you bother this Jesus thing? 42 00:03:06,550 --> 00:03:09,510 If you just skip this one, this is a minor one. 43 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:11,910 Then you can do whatever you like. 44 00:03:12,390 --> 00:03:14,150 And we like it. 45 00:03:15,990 --> 00:03:21,350 And what the apostles say that, oh, this is the point. 46 00:03:22,230 --> 00:03:23,510 Jesus is the key. 47 00:03:25,190 --> 00:03:27,110 Jesus is the cornerstone. 48 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:32,400 And the building will not stand if there is no cornerstone. 49 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,600 So this cornerstone, what the apostle mentions is in the Psalms. 50 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,360 And we Reformed people are familiar with the psalms. 51 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,760 It's Psalm 118. 52 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,560 And this is a festival song, especially for Sukkot, the festival 53 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:52,960 of the tabernacles. 54 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,490 And Jewish people just finished this autumn festival. 55 00:03:57,570 --> 00:04:04,370 Recently we visited that in the synagogue and we saw so many 56 00:04:05,490 --> 00:04:06,450 lovely kids. 57 00:04:06,850 --> 00:04:08,210 The synagogue was full. 58 00:04:08,610 --> 00:04:09,810 Synagogues are not full. 59 00:04:09,810 --> 00:04:15,970 Usually they need at least 10 people together to do their prayer 60 00:04:17,250 --> 00:04:17,970 ceremonies. 61 00:04:18,370 --> 00:04:20,450 But at that time it was full of children. 62 00:04:21,410 --> 00:04:26,890 And they were going around the synagogue with the Torah scrolls, 63 00:04:26,890 --> 00:04:29,650 with the scripture, with the Word of God. 64 00:04:30,690 --> 00:04:35,810 And they were singing and they were rejoicing, and they even received 65 00:04:36,050 --> 00:04:39,650 some candies from the adults they were throwing for them. 66 00:04:40,770 --> 00:04:42,930 And this was a joyful festival. 67 00:04:42,930 --> 00:04:46,770 But this is nothing comparing to the festival that was in Jerusalem 68 00:04:48,860 --> 00:04:53,780 when all the pilgrims from all over the world arrived in those days 69 00:04:53,780 --> 00:05:00,580 when the temple was still there and everything was in wonderful 70 00:05:00,580 --> 00:05:03,820 lights that people couldn't imagine at that time. 71 00:05:03,820 --> 00:05:09,020 They didn't have lights on the street usually, but then Jerusalem 72 00:05:09,020 --> 00:05:15,580 was just like daytime because of all the, the lights in the city. 73 00:05:16,300 --> 00:05:19,820 And the arriving pilgrims were singing this psalm. 74 00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:25,660 And in this psalm they were celebrating the kingdom of God, God 75 00:05:25,660 --> 00:05:26,540 as their king. 76 00:05:27,260 --> 00:05:37,580 And there's a strange just one sentence in it, that the cornerstone 77 00:05:37,580 --> 00:05:42,630 that was rejected by the builder, though the stone that was 78 00:05:42,630 --> 00:05:47,270 rejected by the builders became the cornerstone. 79 00:05:47,750 --> 00:05:50,390 And this is marvelous in our eyes. 80 00:05:51,910 --> 00:05:55,190 So that's what the apostle quotes for them. 81 00:05:56,790 --> 00:06:02,510 And you might ask, okay, but what did the author of the sun think 82 00:06:02,510 --> 00:06:07,800 about when he spoke suddenly in the middle of the festival, in 83 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:13,280 the middle of the rejoicing and celebrating God's kingdom, why 84 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:15,360 did they speak about the cornerstone? 85 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:17,840 Nobody knows that. 86 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:19,640 We can just guess. 87 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,200 But we can guess that this is about something much greater than 88 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,520 just the cornerstone, than just building of the temple. 89 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:33,410 Actually, there's a legend, and it might be a legend and not 90 00:06:33,410 --> 00:06:37,770 true, but rabbis told it to their people that when the Temple 91 00:06:37,770 --> 00:06:41,330 of Solomon was built, there was a stone. 92 00:06:42,050 --> 00:06:46,050 And the builders just couldn't fit in this stone anywhere because 93 00:06:46,050 --> 00:06:49,690 it was so different than any other stones that were prepared for 94 00:06:49,690 --> 00:06:49,970 them. 95 00:06:50,450 --> 00:06:53,970 And you know, the stones were prepared far from Jerusalem. 96 00:06:54,850 --> 00:06:59,480 There were no knocking of hammers on the stones. 97 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,680 They were prepared and brought to Jerusalem. 98 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,920 And they had to find out where to put this. 99 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,680 And they just put it aside, as you see on this picture. 100 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:15,960 And then finally they realized that this is the key for the whole 101 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:16,280 building. 102 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:21,720 This is the stone that gives the directions for the wall, that 103 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,960 holds the weight of the wall. 104 00:07:25,140 --> 00:07:26,980 That's the key for the building to stand. 105 00:07:28,820 --> 00:07:31,660 So that's what the apostle refers to. 106 00:07:31,660 --> 00:07:37,340 Because probably, whether it's a legend or it's true story, the 107 00:07:37,340 --> 00:07:39,460 great Sanhedrin knew about that. 108 00:07:39,860 --> 00:07:43,620 And the apostles said Jesus is the cornerstone. 109 00:07:43,780 --> 00:07:47,780 And probably the psalmist spoke about something greater than 110 00:07:47,780 --> 00:07:50,980 this legend of the cornerstone. 111 00:07:51,140 --> 00:07:56,260 He spoke about the story of Israel, the history of God's people, 112 00:07:57,860 --> 00:08:04,380 because that's how things go usually in the Jewish people, that 113 00:08:04,380 --> 00:08:09,620 something wonderful is prepared for them, they reject. 114 00:08:10,180 --> 00:08:13,380 And later they see that this was the key for that. 115 00:08:14,180 --> 00:08:23,870 So just think about Joseph, The favorite Child of Israel, hated 116 00:08:23,870 --> 00:08:28,910 by the brothers and rejected and almost killed and sold to Egypt. 117 00:08:29,470 --> 00:08:33,830 And they didn't even recognize and thought that, oh, that's an Egyptian, 118 00:08:33,830 --> 00:08:34,910 that's a Gentile. 119 00:08:35,950 --> 00:08:41,870 Then they realized, oh no, he is our brother and he saved us. 120 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,080 That's how it works in Israel. 121 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,040 Just think about Moses. 122 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,640 Moses was raised in the Pharaoh's family. 123 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,280 And the Israelites said, who made you a judge among us? 124 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,120 And rejected him. 125 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,200 And he had to flee away from Egypt. 126 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,320 But there was no other who could deliver Israel. 127 00:09:07,970 --> 00:09:13,810 God called him to guide Israel to the Holy Land. 128 00:09:15,170 --> 00:09:18,850 So there was no other who delivers, just Moses. 129 00:09:19,250 --> 00:09:24,410 And think about David, who was rejected by Saul and was rejected 130 00:09:24,410 --> 00:09:25,170 by his own people. 131 00:09:25,170 --> 00:09:26,610 Betrayed by his own people. 132 00:09:27,410 --> 00:09:29,010 He had to run away. 133 00:09:29,090 --> 00:09:30,770 He had to run to the Philistines. 134 00:09:31,090 --> 00:09:35,430 And everybody thought, oh, he is a Philistine now, not a Jew anymore. 135 00:09:37,190 --> 00:09:39,270 But he was fighting for his people. 136 00:09:40,230 --> 00:09:42,070 And then he became the king. 137 00:09:42,070 --> 00:09:48,550 And then he became the forefather of the Messiah. 138 00:09:49,270 --> 00:09:53,110 And from his family the salvation of the world came. 139 00:09:53,590 --> 00:09:55,670 So that's how it works with Jewish people. 140 00:09:55,830 --> 00:09:57,590 And that's what the apostles say. 141 00:09:57,830 --> 00:10:01,640 No, you rejected, but he is the cornerstone. 142 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,600 Without him there is no healing. 143 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:07,960 Without him there is no comfort, no salvation. 144 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:14,840 You need Jesus, not just some miracles or some well organized fellowships. 145 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,360 You need Jesus. 146 00:10:16,680 --> 00:10:17,880 So that's what we do. 147 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,520 International Mission to Jewish People. 148 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,320 If you're familiar with Christian Witness to Israel, but 149 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,970 you too, I don't know what it is. 150 00:10:26,370 --> 00:10:31,490 It's Christian Witness to Israel with our new old name. 151 00:10:31,810 --> 00:10:35,450 It used to be International Society for the Propagation of the 152 00:10:35,450 --> 00:10:36,690 Gospel to Jewish People. 153 00:10:37,730 --> 00:10:44,370 Later it amalgamated with another ministry and the two formed 154 00:10:45,810 --> 00:10:47,330 Christian Witness to Israel. 155 00:10:47,330 --> 00:10:52,710 And just recently we wanted to emphasize more that we tell the gospel 156 00:10:52,710 --> 00:10:55,190 to Jewish people not only in Israel. 157 00:10:55,190 --> 00:10:57,550 We have wonderful colleagues in Israel. 158 00:10:57,630 --> 00:11:01,950 I really love them and love spending time with them. 159 00:11:02,350 --> 00:11:05,550 But we also have 18 missionaries all over the world, 160 00:11:06,670 --> 00:11:08,670 on four continents in nine countries. 161 00:11:08,830 --> 00:11:13,430 We are a small mission society, but we are growing and we 162 00:11:13,430 --> 00:11:16,110 would like to reach out to Jewish people all over the world 163 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:17,920 as far as possible. 164 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,640 So we have missionaries also in the UK, but in Australia, Rio 165 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,640 de Janeiro, in Europe, in Hungary as well. 166 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:31,720 It's boggy. 167 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,320 And me, and this is our family. 168 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,400 Just a few words about ourselves. 169 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,080 We were brought up in Debrecen and this is the great church behind 170 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:43,440 us. 171 00:11:43,730 --> 00:11:46,210 Oh, this is the center of the Hungarian Reformed Church. 172 00:11:49,570 --> 00:11:55,210 You know, if you travel in Hungary, especially the closer you 173 00:11:55,210 --> 00:12:00,970 are to Austria, it's more likely that you meet people who have 174 00:12:00,970 --> 00:12:05,210 already heard about so called Protestants, but maybe they haven't 175 00:12:05,210 --> 00:12:08,730 seen any or they don't know about that now. 176 00:12:08,730 --> 00:12:13,420 In debrecence, we were raised that we heard about the Catholics. 177 00:12:14,540 --> 00:12:19,980 I was not sure if I saw any of them because of the tradition, because 178 00:12:19,980 --> 00:12:21,100 of the national history. 179 00:12:21,740 --> 00:12:30,140 This is traditionally a Reformed Presbyterian center in a 180 00:12:30,140 --> 00:12:31,740 Catholic majority country. 181 00:12:33,020 --> 00:12:37,180 And my family was a nominal Christian family, which means that 182 00:12:39,020 --> 00:12:42,540 they were familiar with the church, but they didn't attend. 183 00:12:43,100 --> 00:12:45,820 They didn't really understand the gospel. 184 00:12:46,700 --> 00:12:53,500 And because of the communist regime, it was not really a good 185 00:12:53,500 --> 00:12:58,820 idea to go to church and tell that they were married in a church 186 00:12:58,820 --> 00:13:01,100 building or I was baptized. 187 00:13:02,710 --> 00:13:07,870 Actually later I got to know that a wonderful evangelical, warm 188 00:13:07,870 --> 00:13:14,990 hearted, great preacher was a friend of my grandfather's. 189 00:13:14,990 --> 00:13:17,750 And he came and baptized me. 190 00:13:17,750 --> 00:13:21,030 And later when I went to seminary, I started visiting him. 191 00:13:21,030 --> 00:13:24,230 He was so old at that time, he didn't go anywhere. 192 00:13:24,630 --> 00:13:28,740 But he was so happy that he could tell me about the revival in 193 00:13:28,740 --> 00:13:34,420 Hungary, how it was going and what happened and what God taught 194 00:13:34,420 --> 00:13:34,740 him. 195 00:13:34,740 --> 00:13:37,100 So he became a kind of mentor for me. 196 00:13:37,100 --> 00:13:46,060 But I was raised in a nominal Christian family and I lost my mother 197 00:13:46,060 --> 00:13:47,380 when I was a small child. 198 00:13:48,340 --> 00:13:52,580 But still I heard about God and started praying. 199 00:13:52,660 --> 00:13:57,180 I even prayed for my mother and she was not healed. 200 00:13:57,580 --> 00:14:01,580 And somehow I just was not offended. 201 00:14:02,140 --> 00:14:05,580 I went on praying and I went on seeking God. 202 00:14:06,060 --> 00:14:08,700 I don't know why, it's grace. 203 00:14:09,660 --> 00:14:13,700 But later, when I was a teenager, my father became seriously 204 00:14:13,700 --> 00:14:18,940 ill. And my stepmother was not a believer. 205 00:14:19,500 --> 00:14:21,260 She knew nothing about the Bible. 206 00:14:22,030 --> 00:14:26,030 But she said, son, if your father is better, we will take this 207 00:14:26,030 --> 00:14:27,950 and this amount of money to the church. 208 00:14:29,710 --> 00:14:30,830 Silly thing, is it? 209 00:14:31,390 --> 00:14:33,310 Next day my father became better. 210 00:14:33,790 --> 00:14:37,070 This was just God smiling on us. 211 00:14:37,630 --> 00:14:40,670 And I was so grateful that we didn't dare not to. 212 00:14:40,910 --> 00:14:42,030 So we went to the church. 213 00:14:42,030 --> 00:14:45,910 The first time we met a minister, the first time we heard 214 00:14:45,910 --> 00:14:46,750 about the gospel. 215 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,800 And then I joined a Christian school. 216 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,680 And there we met with Bogi. 217 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,600 And now we have three children, three adult children. 218 00:15:03,239 --> 00:15:07,800 This is the wedding of my son, my oldest son. 219 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,560 He is in gray with his bride. 220 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:13,800 I have a younger son. 221 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,150 I'm holding his shoulder is Levi. 222 00:15:17,470 --> 00:15:23,110 And Borci, my daughter, she's learning clay art quite far from 223 00:15:23,110 --> 00:15:23,390 us. 224 00:15:24,110 --> 00:15:25,630 They are all grown up now. 225 00:15:31,390 --> 00:15:35,430 But in this school where we met with Boggy, this was the first 226 00:15:35,430 --> 00:15:40,190 time I ever heard about the real gospel. 227 00:15:41,090 --> 00:15:43,650 Even in the church I didn't understand everything. 228 00:15:44,450 --> 00:15:47,970 It was somehow too complicated for me. 229 00:15:47,970 --> 00:15:53,130 But there I had evangelical friends, real believers, who shared 230 00:15:53,130 --> 00:15:57,810 their testimony, how they came to the Lord, how they Realized their 231 00:15:57,810 --> 00:16:01,970 sins, how they realized God's grace and how they were transformed. 232 00:16:04,290 --> 00:16:11,220 And that's how I realized that the Lord wants to forgive my sins 233 00:16:11,220 --> 00:16:11,820 as well. 234 00:16:12,540 --> 00:16:21,140 And he called me for the seminary when I was in secondary 235 00:16:21,140 --> 00:16:21,340 school. 236 00:16:21,340 --> 00:16:24,940 I just understood that I need to serve him somehow. 237 00:16:25,740 --> 00:16:30,700 But later in the seminary, he put the Jewish people on my heart. 238 00:16:32,150 --> 00:16:35,110 And there was a point when I started praying for them. 239 00:16:35,270 --> 00:16:38,230 My first question was, do they need Jesus? 240 00:16:38,310 --> 00:16:42,070 Now you have the answer that Jesus is the cornerstone. 241 00:16:42,550 --> 00:16:44,550 So the Scriptures answered this to me. 242 00:16:44,790 --> 00:16:49,430 My next question was, how can I share the Gospel at all? 243 00:16:49,590 --> 00:16:50,790 How can I approach them? 244 00:16:50,790 --> 00:16:51,910 How can I find them? 245 00:16:52,070 --> 00:16:56,070 Jewish people are just like anyone else, but even more so. 246 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,600 So you can find Jewish people anywhere in Hungary. 247 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,560 There are about 100,000 Jewish people there. 248 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:12,520 But you cannot be sure who they are because it's not obvious. 249 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:13,880 They are not orthodox. 250 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,560 Traditionally, they don't wear those special garments. 251 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,880 So I started just praying about it, just thinking about it. 252 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:30,400 And then a professor of mine encouraged me to do some studies 253 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,760 about Jewish ministry. 254 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:38,080 And then I moved into the library. 255 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,680 I mean, I skipped all my lessons. 256 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:40,760 Don't tell it to anybody. 257 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:41,760 Oh, it streamed. 258 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:45,920 I was in the library. 259 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,960 I was searching the catalog. 260 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,400 This was Google at that time. 261 00:17:51,860 --> 00:17:54,900 I opened it at Letter Jewish. 262 00:17:54,900 --> 00:17:55,620 Jewish Mission. 263 00:17:55,620 --> 00:17:56,580 Jewish ministry. 264 00:17:56,580 --> 00:17:59,540 Oh, the Jewish Mission of Hungarian Reformed church. 265 00:17:59,860 --> 00:18:09,100 Back in 1945, 46, 48, we had a magazine and I realized that. 266 00:18:09,100 --> 00:18:11,020 And then I heard about the Scottish Mission. 267 00:18:11,020 --> 00:18:13,540 Have you ever heard about the Scottish Mission in Budapest? 268 00:18:15,220 --> 00:18:19,460 This was the first time Scottish people sent out missionaries 269 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,280 to reach out to Jewish people. 270 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,960 And there's a wonderful story how they got to Budapest and how 271 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,120 they found that in Budapest there is a large Jewish community 272 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:30,640 open for the gospel. 273 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,880 And in this story we have a miraculous healing. 274 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,160 We have a princess and we have a camel. 275 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,920 But I won't tell this story for you. 276 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,000 If you're interested, please approach me afterwards. 277 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,060 And I'm happy to tell, but I don't have time for that. 278 00:18:49,260 --> 00:18:54,540 But I just heard about these stories that God was moving in mysterious 279 00:18:54,540 --> 00:18:58,140 ways in our nation amongst our Jewish people. 280 00:18:59,500 --> 00:19:01,980 And this work just somehow stopped. 281 00:19:03,419 --> 00:19:09,660 And this was the time I realized that I have to start preparing 282 00:19:09,660 --> 00:19:10,700 for this ministry. 283 00:19:11,260 --> 00:19:13,140 And I found Christian witness to Israel. 284 00:19:13,140 --> 00:19:17,080 I found John Ross, Reverend John Ross, if some of you familiar 285 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,520 with him, he was the general secretary at that time. 286 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,880 And we joined the mission. 287 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,840 And for the first time, I was the missionary. 288 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,360 Later, Bogie came the missionary and I went back to pastoral 289 00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:36,760 ministry and supporting Bogi's mission as far as I could but now 290 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,360 we got the opportunity that both of us are. 291 00:19:40,510 --> 00:19:45,990 Are missionaries, and we work side by side, and we reach out to 292 00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:54,270 Jewish people one by one, instead of reaching out to masses. 293 00:19:54,670 --> 00:20:03,950 A lot of people, we would like to meet each person, just one on 294 00:20:03,950 --> 00:20:04,270 one. 295 00:20:05,310 --> 00:20:06,350 So we make friends. 296 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:11,000 That's why we sometimes, but not regularly, visit synagogue. 297 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,640 We don't want to pretend being Jewish people. 298 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:21,480 And if they ask in Hungarian, in our culture, we can tell that 299 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:22,440 we are missionaries. 300 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,360 We help Jewish people, and we speak about Jesus if they are ready 301 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:27,800 to hear. 302 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,680 And they said, oh, good enough. 303 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,120 So. 304 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,240 So we can go and meet with Jewish people. 305 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,960 We can attend a choir. 306 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,360 We can meet them in synagogues, on cultural programs. 307 00:20:42,360 --> 00:20:43,440 We can do things together. 308 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:48,400 We even sang together Jewish songs on Jewish festivals. 309 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,800 And people love that. 310 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,880 And just recently, we visited an Adelaide people's home. 311 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,080 And this is a wonderful new opportunity for us. 312 00:21:00,450 --> 00:21:04,450 But what I would like to tell you a few stories about those people 313 00:21:04,450 --> 00:21:05,090 I met. 314 00:21:05,730 --> 00:21:07,250 One of them is Gabriel. 315 00:21:07,890 --> 00:21:14,130 He is a learned Jewish man, a leader of the Jewish community in 316 00:21:14,130 --> 00:21:14,690 Hungary. 317 00:21:15,890 --> 00:21:22,130 And I knew him even before becoming religious. 318 00:21:23,890 --> 00:21:27,140 And then I realized that he goes this time synagogue. 319 00:21:27,940 --> 00:21:30,980 And we started talking. 320 00:21:32,900 --> 00:21:39,780 And because he's really well educated, I have a lot to learn from 321 00:21:39,780 --> 00:21:40,100 him. 322 00:21:40,820 --> 00:21:45,140 So sometimes I learn about Jewish culture, about Jewish traditions, 323 00:21:45,140 --> 00:21:48,100 about how Jewish people understand certain things. 324 00:21:49,380 --> 00:21:52,820 And sometimes when I learn, I can even teach something. 325 00:21:54,310 --> 00:21:59,430 Like when the weekly Torah reading in the synagogue, it was 326 00:21:59,750 --> 00:22:02,710 about the red calf. 327 00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:05,190 This is the best expression for that. 328 00:22:07,030 --> 00:22:10,310 The calf that was slaughtered and burnt. 329 00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:13,950 And the ashes were unclean. 330 00:22:13,950 --> 00:22:18,150 Whoever touched the ashes, you can read it in your Bible. 331 00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:23,050 Whoever touched the ashes or prepared these ashes, they became 332 00:22:23,050 --> 00:22:23,650 unclean. 333 00:22:23,650 --> 00:22:28,650 They had to clean themselves ritually to go back to the temple. 334 00:22:29,610 --> 00:22:34,090 But these ashes cleansed those who are unclean. 335 00:22:34,490 --> 00:22:35,929 So this is contradiction. 336 00:22:36,250 --> 00:22:38,570 And Gabriel said, okay, this is contradiction. 337 00:22:38,570 --> 00:22:41,210 We don't understand it, but we believe it. 338 00:22:41,850 --> 00:22:44,570 And I said, I have an explanation for that. 339 00:22:44,570 --> 00:22:45,530 Would you like to hear? 340 00:22:49,330 --> 00:22:50,290 Think about Jesus. 341 00:22:52,210 --> 00:22:57,090 He was the one who was casted out of Jerusalem, was crucified, 342 00:22:58,050 --> 00:23:02,370 died on a cross under the curse of our sins. 343 00:23:02,850 --> 00:23:04,530 That's what we Christians believe. 344 00:23:05,090 --> 00:23:06,370 And that's how we see. 345 00:23:08,050 --> 00:23:11,170 And though he is unclean, he became unclean. 346 00:23:11,660 --> 00:23:16,300 He rose from the dead, and we can be cleansed by him. 347 00:23:17,020 --> 00:23:20,020 And he said, oh, that's a wonderful explanation. 348 00:23:20,020 --> 00:23:21,100 That's really beautiful. 349 00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:21,900 It fits together. 350 00:23:22,780 --> 00:23:25,580 Now, if he says this, that doesn't mean that. 351 00:23:25,580 --> 00:23:29,460 No, he believes it means that he likes my explanation. 352 00:23:29,460 --> 00:23:31,340 He understands my way of thinking. 353 00:23:31,500 --> 00:23:38,710 But he says, I'm Jewish, you are not how to get closer to him. 354 00:23:39,910 --> 00:23:42,070 Just recently we had a hike together. 355 00:23:42,550 --> 00:23:49,510 I had an injury last year, and in my recovery, it was an important 356 00:23:49,670 --> 00:23:54,030 milestone to climb a mountain that's a relatively high mountain 357 00:23:54,030 --> 00:23:54,790 in Hungary. 358 00:23:54,790 --> 00:23:57,190 It's 900 some meters. 359 00:23:58,790 --> 00:24:02,310 And he offered me to escort me, to come with me. 360 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,240 And we were hiking together. 361 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,440 And coming down from the hill, I saw that he was nervous. 362 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,760 At one point I asked him if he needs to hurry somewhere. 363 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,680 And he said, no, no, no, my day is about this hike. 364 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,120 But he was nervous. 365 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,040 And then I heard that he is singing something. 366 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,200 And I asked, oh, is this the evening prayer? 367 00:24:28,570 --> 00:24:29,450 Yeah, yeah, it is. 368 00:24:30,890 --> 00:24:35,130 And then he asked me, if we get back to the car, can I just pray 369 00:24:35,130 --> 00:24:35,850 my prayer? 370 00:24:36,090 --> 00:24:37,610 And I said, yeah, sure. 371 00:24:38,410 --> 00:24:40,090 It would be a privilege to hear. 372 00:24:40,650 --> 00:24:45,250 So we got back to the car and he was praying and praying wonderful 373 00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:48,010 prayers, psalms, scriptures. 374 00:24:49,530 --> 00:24:50,650 And I just listened. 375 00:24:50,650 --> 00:24:52,090 I couldn't understand everything. 376 00:24:52,570 --> 00:24:54,590 I understood just a few, few words. 377 00:24:55,310 --> 00:24:59,950 But afterwards he said that the last sentence was Zechariah, 378 00:25:00,990 --> 00:25:03,390 that the Lord will be king all over the world. 379 00:25:03,790 --> 00:25:05,630 Wow, that's something to talk about. 380 00:25:06,750 --> 00:25:10,270 And then we went for a coffee and we talked and he opened up a 381 00:25:10,270 --> 00:25:11,070 little bit for me. 382 00:25:11,470 --> 00:25:12,950 So we are on our way. 383 00:25:12,950 --> 00:25:14,830 And please pray for Gabriel. 384 00:25:15,150 --> 00:25:20,520 And I will just quickly share with you some other names, like Abel, 385 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:27,480 who used to be from a Jewish background, from Jewish grandparents, 386 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,640 but he was raised Catholic. 387 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,840 But later he turned away from Jesus. 388 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,200 He couldn't find a personal relationship. 389 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,320 And he has got a lot of struggles he's going through. 390 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,750 And because of these struggles, he said he doesn't want 391 00:25:46,750 --> 00:25:49,190 to have a personal relationship with God. 392 00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:50,750 He just want rituals. 393 00:25:50,750 --> 00:25:56,270 And he started going to a synagogue because of his Jewish heritage. 394 00:25:56,590 --> 00:26:04,110 And we started talking, and it was on Yom Kippur, the day of the 395 00:26:04,110 --> 00:26:06,030 atonement, on this fall. 396 00:26:06,350 --> 00:26:08,510 This is also important Fall festival. 397 00:26:08,830 --> 00:26:12,190 We were talking on phone because he's not observing that much. 398 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,480 We could talk on phone. 399 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,600 And I said that, look, you have a lot of struggles in your life. 400 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:25,600 I know I also have mine, but yours, I know it's serious and you 401 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,560 can be depressed, but you can tell it to the Lord. 402 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,400 You can tell it every day. 403 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,160 You can have a personal relationship while being frustrated 404 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:37,600 and. 405 00:26:38,250 --> 00:26:41,530 And maybe one day you will see that you can give thanks for that. 406 00:26:42,490 --> 00:26:46,050 And later he typed me a message that he just met somebody 407 00:26:46,050 --> 00:26:49,890 and he was able to help because of his struggles, because 408 00:26:49,890 --> 00:26:52,010 of the trouble he is in, he could help. 409 00:26:52,730 --> 00:26:55,530 And he said, oh, that's a wonderful Yom Kippur. 410 00:26:55,530 --> 00:26:57,370 That's A wonderful day of atonement. 411 00:26:58,970 --> 00:27:01,090 Thank you, Lord, for abba. 412 00:27:01,090 --> 00:27:05,220 So please pray for him to find the real Jesus. 413 00:27:06,900 --> 00:27:08,420 Leslie, who is atheist. 414 00:27:09,460 --> 00:27:15,700 And he started typing comments for us on Facebook. 415 00:27:16,500 --> 00:27:21,700 Whenever I post something, he is there to ruin it immediately. 416 00:27:23,220 --> 00:27:28,300 And my first thought was, oh, I should ban this guy because he 417 00:27:28,300 --> 00:27:30,420 ruins what I wanted to do on Facebook. 418 00:27:30,580 --> 00:27:35,630 I mean, sharing the message, sharing just a picture with a Bible 419 00:27:35,630 --> 00:27:36,110 verse. 420 00:27:36,270 --> 00:27:37,390 He's always there. 421 00:27:37,630 --> 00:27:40,270 But then I thought, I'm there because of him. 422 00:27:42,030 --> 00:27:46,110 And so I started answering in comments, and he calmed down. 423 00:27:46,750 --> 00:27:52,030 And then I said, okay, it would be easier to write privately. 424 00:27:52,430 --> 00:27:53,710 Can I friend you on Facebook? 425 00:27:53,870 --> 00:27:54,350 Yeah. 426 00:27:54,670 --> 00:27:56,830 So we are friends on Facebook now. 427 00:27:57,230 --> 00:28:01,790 And then we started typing, and I asked, can I call you? 428 00:28:02,030 --> 00:28:03,070 And he said yes. 429 00:28:03,150 --> 00:28:05,550 And he gave me his phone number. 430 00:28:06,030 --> 00:28:11,270 So sometimes we talk, and sometimes we need to draw the line 431 00:28:11,270 --> 00:28:14,670 that, okay, you can say this, but you cannot say that, especially 432 00:28:14,670 --> 00:28:15,710 not for Bogie. 433 00:28:18,750 --> 00:28:24,670 And just recently, we had a harsh conflict because of these things. 434 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,200 But then I was so nervous. 435 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:28,920 I'm losing him. 436 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:29,880 I'm losing him. 437 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:36,840 And then he apologized to Bogey, and then we set up some rules 438 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,280 how we can communicate. 439 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,600 And he wants the relationship, and we pray for him. 440 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,200 He's. 441 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,480 Leslie, he's a musician, and he really needs God. 442 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,600 I don't think he doesn't believe in God. 443 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,610 I think he's angry with God, and that's how he expresses. 444 00:28:55,490 --> 00:28:57,690 So just a few names. 445 00:28:57,690 --> 00:29:00,610 Gabriel, Abel, Leslie. 446 00:29:01,090 --> 00:29:06,210 Please pray for them, because the prayer makes a difference. 447 00:29:07,250 --> 00:29:12,770 So it happens sometimes that we are here in this country and we 448 00:29:12,770 --> 00:29:17,260 tell something for churches, and the churches are praying, and 449 00:29:17,660 --> 00:29:19,740 a few days later, something happens. 450 00:29:21,180 --> 00:29:22,460 Yeah, that happens. 451 00:29:23,020 --> 00:29:26,140 And your prayers make a real difference. 452 00:29:26,460 --> 00:29:30,060 So I know you will remember these names. 453 00:29:30,860 --> 00:29:35,980 Gabriel, Abel, Leslie, tonight, maybe tomorrow morning, 454 00:29:36,220 --> 00:29:37,260 but not forever. 455 00:29:37,740 --> 00:29:39,660 So that's why you have these cards. 456 00:29:40,780 --> 00:29:41,980 Have you got these cards? 457 00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:51,750 What you can do is you fold this perforated slice. 458 00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:54,630 Have you ever had such a card before? 459 00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:56,150 That's a tricky card. 460 00:29:56,230 --> 00:29:56,870 Is it? 461 00:29:58,710 --> 00:30:05,430 If you do this, and especially if you count to three in Hungarian, 462 00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:11,930 then it works in Hungarian, it's E. Let me hear you. 463 00:30:12,170 --> 00:30:15,330 E. Harum. 464 00:30:15,330 --> 00:30:15,770 Perfect. 465 00:30:15,930 --> 00:30:17,450 Now action. 466 00:30:22,010 --> 00:30:25,930 So now you have a bookmark, and you have a little room here, 467 00:30:26,090 --> 00:30:28,170 just a little white space here. 468 00:30:28,170 --> 00:30:30,690 And you can write down these three names. 469 00:30:30,690 --> 00:30:32,570 Gabriel, Abel, Leslie. 470 00:30:33,130 --> 00:30:35,530 And you can put it in your Bible and. 471 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,560 And pray for me. 472 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:43,280 And if you would like to know some more, because these are just 473 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:48,720 three names, but I have more friends, like Benjamin. 474 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,280 You can have a story about Benjamin. 475 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,920 You can find these letters These newsletters in the entrance 476 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:02,230 hall on the tables, just pick up one and read it. 477 00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:05,830 If you would like to receive it regularly, three times a year, 478 00:31:07,030 --> 00:31:08,710 then you need to sign up. 479 00:31:09,910 --> 00:31:14,470 Give us your name and your email address and then the office 480 00:31:14,550 --> 00:31:16,950 will send you these newsletters. 481 00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:22,110 If you are signed up for ASAF or other missionary colleagues, that's 482 00:31:22,110 --> 00:31:22,630 wonderful. 483 00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:28,690 If you sign up for mine, you won't get double CWI or I am JP Harold. 484 00:31:30,290 --> 00:31:35,850 You will be just added to my mailing list as well and you will 485 00:31:35,850 --> 00:31:36,530 be updated. 486 00:31:37,010 --> 00:31:41,850 So no risk about this, but this is the only way we can send 487 00:31:41,850 --> 00:31:43,890 out literature for you. 488 00:31:44,130 --> 00:31:49,890 So please return these cards to me tonight. 489 00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:54,730 I can arrange some pens if you need one. 490 00:31:57,370 --> 00:32:04,010 And this way you can join us as a watchman for the people of Israel. 491 00:32:04,490 --> 00:32:08,810 You know, this is what Ezekiel got from the Lord that you are watchmen 492 00:32:08,890 --> 00:32:14,570 over the people of Israel to warn them, to tell them the message. 493 00:32:15,130 --> 00:32:19,690 So this way you and me together can get the message. 494 00:32:20,210 --> 00:32:22,690 The Jewish people, please help us. 495 00:32:22,690 --> 00:32:27,810 That would be a privilege if you joined my prayer letters as well. 496 00:32:29,010 --> 00:32:31,170 I just mentioned one more person. 497 00:32:31,890 --> 00:32:33,090 He is called Daniel. 498 00:32:34,370 --> 00:32:36,530 You can add as the fourth name. 499 00:32:37,090 --> 00:32:38,530 He is on the right side. 500 00:32:38,770 --> 00:32:41,490 He is from a Jewish family. 501 00:32:42,050 --> 00:32:44,770 He is a grandson of Holocaust survivors. 502 00:32:45,010 --> 00:32:47,390 But the Lord saved him from alcohol. 503 00:32:48,750 --> 00:32:50,270 This was amazing to see. 504 00:32:50,750 --> 00:32:58,350 There were the times when he called me regularly in a funny drunken 505 00:32:58,350 --> 00:32:58,830 voice. 506 00:33:00,750 --> 00:33:02,750 And he wanted Jesus. 507 00:33:02,750 --> 00:33:06,670 But on the other hand, he wanted himself and his will. 508 00:33:07,150 --> 00:33:12,910 And there was the point when he lost his opportunity to finish 509 00:33:12,910 --> 00:33:20,980 his his college studies because of his addiction. 510 00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:25,620 So this was the point when he went to the hospital and then called 511 00:33:25,620 --> 00:33:26,020 me. 512 00:33:26,660 --> 00:33:31,940 And when we started to talk, he asked me, how can I have Jesus? 513 00:33:33,140 --> 00:33:34,740 How can I follow Jesus? 514 00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:40,870 And from that point we talked about this. 515 00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:41,790 We prayed together. 516 00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:47,230 I encouraged him to follow Jesus and trust in him. 517 00:33:47,710 --> 00:33:53,070 And from that point he stopped drinking. 518 00:33:53,070 --> 00:33:54,510 Let's say in three years. 519 00:33:54,510 --> 00:34:00,430 Now he is clear and he is following the Lord and his life is 520 00:34:00,430 --> 00:34:04,550 ruined, of course, and he needs time and he needs some other 521 00:34:04,550 --> 00:34:06,780 help to be recovered. 522 00:34:06,780 --> 00:34:12,460 But that would be so great to see him share his testimony and serve 523 00:34:12,460 --> 00:34:12,980 the Lord. 524 00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:15,780 So please pray for Dania, for his growth. 525 00:34:15,940 --> 00:34:17,860 Thank you for listening to me. 526 00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:19,980 I was a bit longer than I promised. 527 00:34:19,980 --> 00:34:20,740 I'm sorry. 528 00:34:21,139 --> 00:34:26,500 But it was great to be here and thank you for following what 529 00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:27,060 I said. 530 00:34:34,810 --> 00:34:35,050 Sa.