Hey everybody, welcome back.
Speaker:This is week 38 of Creative, come follow me for the New Testament.
Speaker:This week we're going to finish the book of 2nd Corinthians.
Speaker:So we're going to go from chapter 8, where we left off last week, all the
Speaker:way through the end in chapter 13.
Speaker:And I'd say if there was a summary for this week, it's sort of
Speaker:putting the gospel into action.
Speaker:Paul's been teaching us and the Corinthian saints all about charity and looking at
Speaker:themselves and the, you know, fellow men around them with a God like perspective.
Speaker:And this week, he's asking them to put it to the test.
Speaker:He's saying, can you look at your fellow men that are different than you?
Speaker:and donate generously.
Speaker:Give of what you have in abundance to help their want.
Speaker:He's going to ask them to look at their leaders with that
Speaker:same kind of charitable lens.
Speaker:Can you look at those who seem weak on the surface and appreciate
Speaker:the magnitude of what is within?
Speaker:Can you look at yourselves with charity?
Speaker:Can you see and examine yourself and see where you need correction
Speaker:and how you can improve?
Speaker:And Where you can yield to the enticings of the spirit all of those things that
Speaker:he's been teaching them this week He's gonna ask them to begin to do it and we
Speaker:don't get a lot of feel for how they react Remember, this is the end of an epistle.
Speaker:So I don't exactly know how they reacted to this letter, but I do
Speaker:love where Paul's coming from.
Speaker:He's saying it's one thing to hear and to learn and to even understand.
Speaker:It's another thing to show it.
Speaker:In fact, he'll start to use those phrases to prove your love for
Speaker:God and to evidence what is there.
Speaker:And so he'll kind of give us those same inclinations.
Speaker:It sort of reminds me of this summer.
Speaker:I was Teaching at a girls camp.
Speaker:And I love teaching at girls camps, but particularly, I love that it's a chance
Speaker:to test, you know, it's one thing to learn about the story of the Good Samaritan on
Speaker:Sunday and to hear about it in a lesson.
Speaker:It's a whole nother thing to ask a girl to invite that, you know, brand
Speaker:new 11 year old into their tent.
Speaker:You know, that's the story of the Good Samaritan.
Speaker:in action.
Speaker:And I just think that's where these saints are.
Speaker:I was like, I've said as much as I can say, now I need to invite you to do.
Speaker:And by extension, he invites us to do the exact same thing.
Speaker:So there's a lot to learn, especially about his impressions of the savior.
Speaker:He's had some great visionary experiences that we're just going
Speaker:to get a taste of this week.
Speaker:And it will inspire you to.
Speaker:want to come closer.
Speaker:It will inspire you to want to act and do and prove the kind of heart
Speaker:that you have as you study this week.
Speaker:I think you're really going to love it.
Speaker:So grab your scriptures, grab your notes.
Speaker:It's time to get started.
Speaker:Lately, I've been talking a lot about the gift of agency in my institute class.
Speaker:So that tends to be a lens I put on when I read any scripture in the last few weeks.
Speaker:So if you look at chapter eight and you don't see a lesson on
Speaker:agency, I'll understand why.
Speaker:It's just in my brain all the time right now.
Speaker:I just think that's what Paul is inviting them to do.
Speaker:He's essentially saying to them, you have a choice to make.
Speaker:Are you disciples or not?
Speaker:If you are disciples, then the fruits of your discipleship will be, you
Speaker:will give with a Christlike heart.
Speaker:And that's what he's counting on.
Speaker:Actually, there was this great quote from Elder Klebingat
Speaker:that's in the notes this week.
Speaker:And he talks about this choice.
Speaker:This is, I, this is a paraphrase, but you can find the full quote in the notes.
Speaker:He says, moral agency is God's precious gift to each of his children.
Speaker:God won't force us to do good.
Speaker:And the devil can't force us to do evil.
Speaker:Though some may think that mortality is a contest between God and the
Speaker:adversary, a word from the Savior and Satan is silenced and banished.
Speaker:It is our strength that is being tested, not God's.
Speaker:That's what's happening in these chapters.
Speaker:He's saying, put your discipleship to the test.
Speaker:If your testimony is deep enough.
Speaker:You will give and you'll give abundantly because you're grateful to
Speaker:the God who gave so much to you and because you trust that he'll make all
Speaker:things work together for your good.
Speaker:If you have that level of discipleship, then giving whatever is asked isn't
Speaker:so hard or isn't so painful, and I feel like that's where Paul's going.
Speaker:So first he compares he gives them a reference point and he
Speaker:says let me tell you about some of the saints up in Macedonia So
Speaker:the situation is in Jerusalem.
Speaker:There's some struggles that are happening Most people think it's due
Speaker:to a famine that happens around this time in history Whatever the reason
Speaker:the Saints in Jerusalem need funds and so Paul's going to these various
Speaker:branches to try and get funds that he can then funnel to Jerusalem and The
Speaker:tricky part is he's already talked to Corinthian saints about this in the past,
Speaker:and now he's writing them an epistle.
Speaker:In the middle, he's gone to other places like Macedonia, where
Speaker:people gave of their abundance.
Speaker:They, uh, they offered what they could, and he seems genuinely
Speaker:pleased at what he received.
Speaker:What I really like about Paul's approach is he doesn't ever talk about amounts.
Speaker:He doesn't say, well, the saints in Macedonia gave, you know, 500 talents
Speaker:worth or, you know, 17 pounds of gold.
Speaker:Like he doesn't give amounts.
Speaker:What he tells you is where their hearts were.
Speaker:So if you look in three, he says, For to their power I bear record, yea, and
Speaker:beyond their power, they were willing to give of themselves, willing of themselves.
Speaker:And then in five, he says, And this they did, not as we hoped, but first
Speaker:gave their own selves to the Lord, and unto us by the will of God.
Speaker:What they gave and the amount they gave doesn't matter to Paul.
Speaker:What he can see clearly is where their heart is.
Speaker:And that's what Paul's asking the Corinthian saints to do.
Speaker:It's not so much a contest between Macedonia and Corinth to see
Speaker:who can raise the most funds.
Speaker:He's saying, show me where your heart is.
Speaker:Are you willing to give and then in seven therefore as ye abound in everything in
Speaker:faith and utterance and knowledge and in all diligence and in your love to us see
Speaker:that you abound in this grace also he wants them to channel the abundance that
Speaker:they feel and the goodness that they've experienced into other people, right?
Speaker:This is his chance to like put their discipleship to the test.
Speaker:What I like about it is they don't know these people, at least from my
Speaker:understanding, you know, at least in our day today, if we were asked
Speaker:to give generously, like to give a generous fast offering or to help
Speaker:contribute to some fund in the church, we can actually see where that goes.
Speaker:You know, I can watch on Instagram and see the female leaders of the church
Speaker:go to impoverished places or places of natural disasters, or I can see
Speaker:apostles watch and watch the donations happen to these really worthy causes.
Speaker:And I can see it firsthand.
Speaker:The saints in Corinth don't have those options.
Speaker:They're just going on Paul's word that there is need and they need to do it now.
Speaker:And so they've got to trust.
Speaker:I just think that's a big gut check to see.
Speaker:Will you trust?
Speaker:And do you believe that, that I will do what I say I will do?
Speaker:What's especially hard about this is Paul is facing a lot of persecution
Speaker:at this time, especially in Corinth.
Speaker:There are false prophets who are teaching.
Speaker:There are people who are countering what he's saying and accusing
Speaker:him of things and So this is a real test of their discipleship.
Speaker:This is what I think is beautiful about Paul's approach.
Speaker:He says to them in eight, prove the sincerity of your love
Speaker:and the nine for you know, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Speaker:That though he was rich, yet for your sakes, he became poor.
Speaker:That he through that ye through his poverty, might be rich.
Speaker:He's saying we have the ultimate example of this.
Speaker:His motive, God's motive for giving this incredible offering.
Speaker:Is love for his.
Speaker:You know, children.
Speaker:That's, that's what caused the Savior to give all that He did.
Speaker:And because we are recipients of that gift, we should extend
Speaker:that same love out to others.
Speaker:And we should demonstrate it in the exact same way.
Speaker:We can't replicate the Atonement of Jesus Christ, but we can...
Speaker:Get a fraction of the love he has for others, and then
Speaker:watch the fruits pour out.
Speaker:You know, the fruits of my discipleship will be that I naturally am charitable,
Speaker:and I want to take care of my fellow saints, and I want to ease suffering and
Speaker:relieve burdens the same way that he did.
Speaker:So I love that he puts this big spotlight on the Savior first.
Speaker:And then he encourages them to to do, not just to believe, but to do.
Speaker:So that's around 11.
Speaker:Now, therefore perform the doing of it, that as there was a readiness to
Speaker:will, so there may be a performance also out of that which ye have.
Speaker:For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that man hath,
Speaker:and not according to that he hath not.
Speaker:This to me is similar to what we read in the Doctrine and Covenants,
Speaker:where he's saying it's not so much about what you can offer.
Speaker:It's about what you want to offer.
Speaker:You know, like, where is your heart if you have no abundance, especially
Speaker:in financial, you know, means?
Speaker:Where's your heart?
Speaker:Would you give if you could?
Speaker:That's what Paul wants to see.
Speaker:I think, I think his stance is sort of similar to what
Speaker:we saw in the Old Testament.
Speaker:I don't think Paul is trying to guilt them into giving.
Speaker:I never, I don't think that's ever the Savior's approach
Speaker:or his apostles approach.
Speaker:What he's trying to do is say, where's your focus and where is
Speaker:that money going to go otherwise?
Speaker:If the Lord needs those funds and those contributions, then anything else you put
Speaker:that money towards is a bag with holes.
Speaker:Do you remember in the Old Testament when we were reading about Haggai?
Speaker:And he basically said this to the saints in his day, where they
Speaker:were trying to rebuild the temple.
Speaker:And there were all these people who started to build, like, houses.
Speaker:Remember this weird part where they started to build houses around the area?
Speaker:And he was like, why are you taking your money and your time and your attention and
Speaker:putting it towards this temporary shelter?
Speaker:We need that at the temple first.
Speaker:If we take care of the temple first, blessings will abound.
Speaker:Stop putting your money in a bag with holes.
Speaker:And I feel like that's what Paul is saying, too.
Speaker:He's like, where else, what other worthy cause, if the Lord needs it here,
Speaker:where else could you possibly put it?
Speaker:I just think it's, he's trying to get them to see a bigger picture.
Speaker:And then what he does, I like what he says in 13, he says, for, I mean, not
Speaker:that other men be eased and ye be burdened and then 14, but by an, by an equality
Speaker:that now at this time of your abundance may a supply for their want, that their
Speaker:abundance also may be a supply for your want, and that there may be equality.
Speaker:Similar to what we studied in the Doctrine and Covenants, this is
Speaker:not equality, meaning everybody has exactly the same thing.
Speaker:This is meaning an equality that comes in being in a Zion like society
Speaker:where when I have good years and others have lean years, I share
Speaker:because knowing at some point when I have lean years, they share with me.
Speaker:There is a comfort in it.
Speaker:There's also a stance of Remember the manna in the wilderness, like they
Speaker:couldn't gather more than they needed.
Speaker:In fact, if they tried to gather more than they needed, it would rot.
Speaker:They couldn't store it.
Speaker:So they learned really fast to take what they needed and to share of their
Speaker:abundance and to help each other.
Speaker:That's the mindset I think Paul's trying to get these people to, to embrace that
Speaker:their abundance is intended to be shared.
Speaker:They need to find a common ground.
Speaker:So I love how it said in 15, as it is written, he that had gathered
Speaker:much had nothing over and he that had gathered little had no lack.
Speaker:That's what happens in a Zion society.
Speaker:You take care of each other.
Speaker:What I like is you actually get to see this play out in the Book of Mormon.
Speaker:So there's a couple of places if you go in the notes, I think it's Alma one
Speaker:is the one that I called out probably from the footnotes, but he talks about
Speaker:how they reached this state where.
Speaker:They are growing in wealth and they're doing better, but they
Speaker:don't fall into that pride cycle.
Speaker:They give and they take care of the widows and the poor and they.
Speaker:They give of their abundance and they have this peace.
Speaker:To me, I feel like, well, there's this interesting quote, I think it was Lindsey
Speaker:Robbins and he it's in the notes, but he basically says our natural man tendencies
Speaker:are to hoard and to keep things.
Speaker:You know, there's a scarcity mindset that happens in us by our nature and
Speaker:what charity offers and this idea of serving and giving to others is
Speaker:essentially an antidote to that.
Speaker:natural tendency, that natural, you know, tendency we have towards that pride cycle.
Speaker:If you choose to give of your abundance, if you choose to look at the needs of
Speaker:others first, then you take that detour.
Speaker:So you guys remember, I think it was in the book of Mormon when we made that.
Speaker:Pride cycle in a figure eight.
Speaker:Do you guys remember and we like roll the marble around it to show that the
Speaker:pride cycle doesn't have to be a circle.
Speaker:You can actually take exit ramps off the pride cycle.
Speaker:This is one of those exit ramps.
Speaker:Paul's saying you're gonna end up falling into that same cycle we've seen
Speaker:in the scriptures over and over again.
Speaker:Unless you take this exit ramp that is giving generously of what you can.
Speaker:Remember, we don't know the state of the Corinthian Saints bank accounts.
Speaker:I don't know if they are more like a Kirtland type of situation where
Speaker:they have nothing and they're trying to scrape together help, or if they
Speaker:actually have a financial abundance and he's asking them to do good.
Speaker:What I love is it doesn't matter.
Speaker:It doesn't matter where they are.
Speaker:Paul's asking them to give what they can and if they'll do that Then they
Speaker:get that exit ramp out of the pride cycle and find the peace that those
Speaker:saints in the Book of Mormon found So I love that you see that in the verses.
Speaker:Okay, when you flip the page, you're gonna see his guidance about Ties,
Speaker:I actually think it's kind of cool.
Speaker:You see him talk about Checks and balances of sorts because basically
Speaker:what he says is I don't want you to get fixated on where this money is
Speaker:gonna go I don't think he's trying to hide anything or cover anything up.
Speaker:He's just saying you're gonna need to trust me This is one of the reasons I
Speaker:think One of our fundamental testimonies has to be about the Apostles, like,
Speaker:are they real witnesses of God?
Speaker:Are they doing the best they can?
Speaker:Because we have that same situation where we have to trust in that counsel
Speaker:of the disposition of the tithes.
Speaker:You know, we have to...
Speaker:Do we believe this or not?
Speaker:Will I send my funds and trust that you're doing the very best you can to allot it
Speaker:to who needs it and when they need it?
Speaker:And that's what Paul's kind of saying here.
Speaker:He's saying there's me and there's Titus and there's another brother
Speaker:and we're going to do the best we can to make sure that your money
Speaker:is used exactly as it should be.
Speaker:We do that by checking in with God and by checking with our fellow men.
Speaker:So those are his checks and balances that he mentions.
Speaker:So you can read it in 20 and 21.
Speaker:Avoiding this, that no man should blame us in this abundance, which is
Speaker:administered by us, providing for honest things, not only in the sight of the
Speaker:Lord, but also in the sight of men.
Speaker:I just like it because that's what you see at conference, right?
Speaker:When we see the accountants stand up and they give you an accounting
Speaker:of everything and say, we've checked it and things check out.
Speaker:Like that is a legitimate, like they are standing before God
Speaker:and they are standing before.
Speaker:Men, meaning like all the saints and saying, here's to the best
Speaker:of our knowledge, what is true about how these funds are used.
Speaker:I just think it's cool that you see that same tradition.
Speaker:all the way back in Paul's day.
Speaker:And so then he wraps it up in 24.
Speaker:Wherefore, show ye to them, and before the churches, the proof of your love,
Speaker:and of our boasting on your behalf.
Speaker:Paul's been telling all the other saints, probably those in Jerusalem
Speaker:as well, how good the saints in Corinth are, where their hearts are,
Speaker:and that he can trust that if their discipleship is that deeply rooted, that
Speaker:there will be an abundance that comes from Corinth to whoever is in need.
Speaker:So I love this little
Speaker:as much as Paul wants these saints to take care of the members in
Speaker:Jerusalem, he doesn't want them to do it with the wrong spirit.
Speaker:The same way as you send your kids to youth activities and to a
Speaker:service project, you don't want to send them with a begrudging spirit.
Speaker:You want them to go in with a heart full of love and, you know, a service mindset.
Speaker:And that's what Paul wants for these saints too, because he knows
Speaker:it really won't benefit them unless it's coming from the right place.
Speaker:So in nine, I feel like he's kind of checking their motives
Speaker:and saying, Evaluate yourself.
Speaker:How are you doing?
Speaker:And where is this giving coming from?
Speaker:So if you look in 6, he uses this farming metaphor.
Speaker:It says, But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly.
Speaker:And he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.
Speaker:What I like about this, you know, metaphor choice is, I think farming is
Speaker:a really good example of the blessings that come from service, because
Speaker:they don't always come immediately.
Speaker:In fact, they almost never do.
Speaker:Sometimes you'll go and you'll serve and you'll do good.
Speaker:And you'll still struggle at the end to know why you were there, or was that worth
Speaker:your time, or should you have been serving your family instead, or should you have
Speaker:been taking care of your work instead?
Speaker:Like, sometimes you still struggle.
Speaker:And I feel like what Paul is saying is, all of these things
Speaker:are like planting seeds.
Speaker:When you choose to serve, especially to serve in whatever way God has
Speaker:called you to serve, it's like planting seeds and the crops that will come
Speaker:from that harvest eventually will fill all the needs that you have.
Speaker:It's just going to take time.
Speaker:I think that's really important for us because At least for me, I feel like
Speaker:there are a lot of times with our callings where you find yourself struggling
Speaker:because you feel like you almost have to neglect your own family or your own
Speaker:house in order to fulfill your calling.
Speaker:And that gets hard, right?
Speaker:And I feel like this is where I find comfort.
Speaker:I think he's saying what you're planting is actually going to sustain your family.
Speaker:So for example, when Jason was bishop for all those years, it was what I have.
Speaker:I felt like I was planting a lot of seeds, you know, I, It was
Speaker:hard and it was hard on him too.
Speaker:And it was wonderful.
Speaker:And I would do it again in a heartbeat, but it was hard,
Speaker:but it was planting seeds.
Speaker:And now that we're, you know, a year or two away from it, I can start to see how
Speaker:much my family is feasting on those seeds that we planted during those six years.
Speaker:Do you know what I mean?
Speaker:So I feel like sometimes he's asking us to just like, step back
Speaker:and trust there's something more.
Speaker:that I need from you.
Speaker:So those of you who are in young women callings or you know, you're
Speaker:in callings where you feel like you give hours and hours like executive
Speaker:secretaries and things where you give so much time and you struggle because
Speaker:you have to pull away from your own family at times to accomplish it.
Speaker:Trust that he's calling you to plant seeds that will feed your family for
Speaker:years and maybe even generations to come.
Speaker:There is a promise of a harvest.
Speaker:I do think we have to take all that stride, right?
Speaker:There are times when you need to pull back and there are times when
Speaker:you need, the spirit will nudge you to take care of your family first.
Speaker:I'm not trying to counter that.
Speaker:I just think I've seen it in my life sometimes where I'm like,
Speaker:Oh, I'm starting to feast on what I planted a long, long time ago.
Speaker:I get why you needed me here now.
Speaker:I understand better now.
Speaker:And I think you see a little bit of that in six.
Speaker:I also love what he says in seven and eight.
Speaker:In fact, sometimes we read seven in isolation, but I like it better when
Speaker:you read it back to back with eight.
Speaker:So seven, he says, every man according as he purposes in his heart.
Speaker:So let him give not grudgingly or of necessity for God loveth a cheerful giver.
Speaker:And in an eight and God is able to make all grace abound toward you that you
Speaker:always having all sufficiency and all things may abound to every good work.
Speaker:Here's why I like these two together.
Speaker:You guys.
Speaker:I think.
Speaker:God wants a cheerful giver, right?
Speaker:He wants us to come in with cheerful hearts.
Speaker:Sometimes that's really hard.
Speaker:And I just think what he's saying is the reason it's hard is you're
Speaker:forgetting what's in verse eight.
Speaker:If I'm finding it hard to be a cheerful giver, it's because
Speaker:I've forgotten what's in eight.
Speaker:What's in eight is he says, I can make all grace abound towards you, that you will
Speaker:always have a sufficiency in all things that you will abound to every good work.
Speaker:To me, what this means is.
Speaker:I will always have enough.
Speaker:If I'm called to do a work, and I am away from the family, or I am...
Speaker:Even a little bit sleep deprived at times or times or whatever
Speaker:it is if I feel Spiritually pulled to accomplish that work.
Speaker:I will have sufficiency in the other areas Most of the time for me that means
Speaker:people come out of the woodwork to help, you know, I have to extend it a hand and
Speaker:say, I need help, but people will come out of the woodwork and say, I can bring
Speaker:you a meal or I can take care of this, or I can help you with this tonight.
Speaker:There is, there is comfort in that promise, but I think we have to
Speaker:be willing to accept help in order for it to really fully be enacted.
Speaker:But I do love, I do love the offering.
Speaker:There's this quote in the notes from elder Oaks.
Speaker:This is what he said.
Speaker:Although those who serve out of fear of punishment or out
Speaker:of a sense of duty, undoubtedly qualify for blessings in heaven.
Speaker:There are still higher reasons for service.
Speaker:I like this because a lot of times my service is a bit begrudging.
Speaker:I'm not always a cheerful giver.
Speaker:And I think he's saying there are still blessings at play there, but
Speaker:I want something better for you.
Speaker:And the Lord wants something better for you.
Speaker:And that's what Paul was trying to say to his saints.
Speaker:This is not about coins.
Speaker:It is not about getting food in the mouths of the Jerusalem saints.
Speaker:It's about something much deeper than that.
Speaker:Where is your heart?
Speaker:And then he reminds them how.
Speaker:Rich they are.
Speaker:Just remember, we don't know, the Corinthian saints, how actually wealthy
Speaker:they are, but they are enriched in Abundant ways and that's what Paul's
Speaker:trying to draw their attention to.
Speaker:So in 11 He says, being enriched in everything to all bountifulness, which
Speaker:causes through us Thanksgiving to God.
Speaker:Then he talks about this liberal distribution that's been given unto them
Speaker:and how they've been Incredibly blessed by God and that all those blessings
Speaker:came from him and therefore aren't theirs to hold You know It's just like
Speaker:what we talked about in the Doctrine and Covenants about stewardship and
Speaker:this understanding that these things that I have I'm watching over them.
Speaker:I'm supposed to Use them wisely.
Speaker:I'm supposed to help things increase where I can, but these are not mine.
Speaker:What I liked about it is, in my mind this week as I was studying, I realized
Speaker:mana is still falling from heaven.
Speaker:It doesn't look like it used to look, but remember it was
Speaker:unrecognizable to them as well.
Speaker:Mana from heaven for us is...
Speaker:job opportunities that fall in the laps of my daughter and her, my son
Speaker:in law, like they're, manna comes in all these cool ways, you guys,
Speaker:opportunities and blessings still fall.
Speaker:And what he's trusting is when you have enough and you're full, take whatever
Speaker:you can and give it out, do what you can to bless the lives of others.
Speaker:If you will do that, manna continues to fall and you'll always have.
Speaker:A sufficiency does not mean an excess or a giant stockpile stored in your basement.
Speaker:It means you'll have enough to meet your needs.
Speaker:What I like about that is that's one of my most common answers to prayers, you guys,
Speaker:because oftentimes I am praying for help.
Speaker:I feel stretched too thin, or I feel like I can't keep up, or I feel like there's
Speaker:not enough creativity or energy in my mind to accomplish what's in front of me.
Speaker:The answer that often comes to me is Maria, you will have the help you need.
Speaker:It is not that everything will be fine.
Speaker:It is I will have the help I need.
Speaker:What I've learned over the course of time is that means I have to be
Speaker:willing to accept the help that comes.
Speaker:Often he will put people in my path and I have to be willing.
Speaker:to, to accept it.
Speaker:You know, like we talked about with the chariots and Elisha, this idea
Speaker:of like, if a chariot cruises by me, I have to be willing to say,
Speaker:Oh, actually, no, I do need help.
Speaker:I need a ride.
Speaker:I do need help.
Speaker:Can you come take care of my family?
Speaker:Or can you come help me make clues for this giant party?
Speaker:Like whatever it is, I have to be willing to accept the help that comes my way.
Speaker:But sufficiency.
Speaker:Maria, you will have the help you need.
Speaker:It's a promise that has come to my heart more times than I can
Speaker:count, and it helps me every time.
Speaker:Seems like one of the big obstacles Paul is facing are other teachers.
Speaker:So people who have set themselves up, even call themselves
Speaker:apostles, who are actually not.
Speaker:authorized witnesses of Jesus Christ.
Speaker:They have no keys.
Speaker:They are not aligned with the authority.
Speaker:They, they are, they are AWOL and they're taking members with them.
Speaker:And so this is Paul's concern.
Speaker:What I like about his approach is he doesn't scramble after them.
Speaker:What he says is, look at me and remember the savior.
Speaker:I align myself with that chief cornerstone.
Speaker:Always.
Speaker:You can trust in my process of aligning myself with the savior.
Speaker:And therefore you can trust that this is.
Speaker:His gospel.
Speaker:So that's what he says in one.
Speaker:Now I, Paul, myself, beseech you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ,
Speaker:who in presence am base among you, but being absent, am bold towards you.
Speaker:This is Paul saying, remember how the Savior came.
Speaker:He came in meekness and humility and taught pure, simple truth.
Speaker:That is how I'm coming to you.
Speaker:The reason I think Paul's approaching it that way is because the others...
Speaker:Don't talk that way.
Speaker:In fact, you'll see it a little bit later in the coming chapters that it sure
Speaker:sounds like those who are trying to lead people astray are similar to what we see
Speaker:in the Antichrist of the Book of Mormon where they They have comfortable talk and
Speaker:they speak with much flattery and they probably look fantastic and they've got,
Speaker:you know, that tone of voice that makes you impressed and want to hear more.
Speaker:What I thought was fascinating is, you know, there's that one description from
Speaker:Joseph Smith about what Paul looks like.
Speaker:I don't know where this came from.
Speaker:It comes from exactly like if you saw him in vision or how he knows this, but
Speaker:he talked about Paul being short, like five feet tall, dark hair, dark eyes.
Speaker:In fact, he says he had like beady eyes and said that his voice
Speaker:was whining sounding, which I always thought was fascinating.
Speaker:I'm like, this sounds terrible to listen to.
Speaker:And I wonder sometimes if.
Speaker:If that's what the people see on the surface, you know, Paul's
Speaker:trying to help them understand.
Speaker:Like that's why his words maybe are more powerful in letters
Speaker:than they are in person.
Speaker:But what I love about Joseph Smith's description of Paul, he says, unless he's
Speaker:speaking of things that he's impassioned by, I don't have the quote exactly in my
Speaker:head, but you can find it in the notes.
Speaker:But.
Speaker:He says, then he sounds like the roaring of a lion and that I could see with
Speaker:Paul, you know, that there is when you are in the zone with Paul and when the
Speaker:spirit is there, there is a power in Paul's words, but on the surface, he's
Speaker:not going to look like those fancy teachers from these other comfortable.
Speaker:You know, versions of the Savior's gospel, he's going to sound exacting
Speaker:and sharp because that's what the Lord expects from all of us, right?
Speaker:There is correction that comes with the Spirit so that we can continually be.
Speaker:Getting closer to what we're supposed to be.
Speaker:That's where Paul will be.
Speaker:What I like is how he describes it.
Speaker:So if you look in three, he says, for though we walk in the flesh,
Speaker:we do not war after the flesh.
Speaker:To me, this is like, he doesn't get into these big battles with the other
Speaker:philosophers and people on the, you know, like, He has a different game plan.
Speaker:So he says in four, for the weapons of our warfare are not carnal.
Speaker:but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds, casting down
Speaker:imaginations, and every high thing that exalted itself against the knowledge of
Speaker:God, and bringeth into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.
Speaker:Paul is someone who is continually teaching us about
Speaker:the value of self mastery.
Speaker:And he's trying, I think, to demonstrate to us, like, I
Speaker:have got my thoughts aligned.
Speaker:The visual that helps me and this, I did this in my YSA class once where I had
Speaker:them line up perfectly some dice, you know, I, I set a big die in one spot and
Speaker:said, okay, now I want you to take these 15 dice and I want you to line them up so
Speaker:that they're perfectly aligned with that first corner, kind of like what we do with
Speaker:the object lesson with those blocks that we built up similar idea, except for in
Speaker:my YSA class, I brought in a laser level and I, I shown it at that first big die.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And then you could see exactly this bright red line that cut down the side
Speaker:of the dice, and you could see which one were just a fraction off, a fraction
Speaker:to the left, a fraction to the right.
Speaker:And then you could get them in perfect alignment because we had this laser guide.
Speaker:That's what I feel like Paul understands.
Speaker:He's like, I, because I am who I am, I will always.
Speaker:Check my alignment with Jesus Christ.
Speaker:I will, I am accountable to Jesus Christ, and I will always be in alignment.
Speaker:So my thoughts are in check, my actions are in check, and I
Speaker:will be obedient in my thoughts.
Speaker:So you can trust what I teach you.
Speaker:I just won't sound flowery, and I won't sound impressive to you unless
Speaker:you see that alignment, and then I might sound like the roaring of a lion.
Speaker:That's where I think he's going, because he says, In 8, well in
Speaker:7, he says, Do you look on things after the outward appearance?
Speaker:If any man trusts himself that he is Christ, let him of himself
Speaker:think this again, that as he is Christ, even so are we Christ.
Speaker:He is not trying to be Paul independent of the Savior.
Speaker:He's trying to be Paul who is perfectly aligned with the
Speaker:Savior, his special witness.
Speaker:And then in 8, he says, For though I should boast somewhat more of our
Speaker:authority, which the Lord hath given us for our edification, and not for your
Speaker:destruction, I should not be ashamed.
Speaker:To me, this is Paul reminding them about the keys, that there is something
Speaker:much more powerful at play here.
Speaker:This is not just, he's a good teacher and so he got picked to be a leader.
Speaker:This is, he's been set apart.
Speaker:He's been given keys to do this work and his work will be to edify.
Speaker:He's going to use this phrase again later, but I think the combination
Speaker:of destruction and edification is a really interesting one.
Speaker:Essentially, what Paul's job is, and probably all of our jobs as teachers,
Speaker:is at times to break things down so that something true can be built.
Speaker:So the visual in my mind that comes back is that foundation
Speaker:that Brigham Young exposed.
Speaker:Remember they were building the Salt Lake Temple and they had
Speaker:to bury it because of threat.
Speaker:And then when they pulled it back out again, they could see that the foundation
Speaker:wasn't as strong as they thought it was.
Speaker:And the question was, do we try to just shore it up or do
Speaker:we just start from scratch?
Speaker:And to, in order to build something and to build, to build an edifice that would be
Speaker:strong, they had to destroy a little bit.
Speaker:I think in some ways it's the exact same thing we see in Alma 32.
Speaker:Where he asks us to give place, you know, to take some of the comfortable packed
Speaker:out down soil out of our pot so that we can give place for this seed to come in.
Speaker:And it's going to be a little uncomfortable at first, you know, we're
Speaker:going to miss that warm packed soil.
Speaker:But the promise is if you will let some destruction happen, then something
Speaker:edifying can be built in its place.
Speaker:And it will be worth the sacrifice.
Speaker:That's what an apostle's job is.
Speaker:It's what a parent's job is.
Speaker:It's what we're supposed to do this to ourselves as we self evaluate.
Speaker:His job is to do both.
Speaker:So we're there expecting a teacher who will be comforting.
Speaker:You know, a teacher who will say, you're doing great.
Speaker:And there's no expectation of you.
Speaker:And Jesus loves you.
Speaker:And it doesn't matter what your choices are.
Speaker:Like those kind of voices that we still hear today are not apostolic voices.
Speaker:Because an apostolic voice is both.
Speaker:There is some correction that is needed so that edification can happen.
Speaker:So you'll see Paul worry about that.
Speaker:And then he talks about his physical appearance.
Speaker:I like this intent.
Speaker:He says, For his letters, say they, are weighty and powerful,
Speaker:but his bodily presence is weak and his speech contemptible.
Speaker:That's harsh criticism, right?
Speaker:I just think it's, this is Paul.
Speaker:What's fascinating to me about this is I've always pictured Paul as this
Speaker:master orator, maybe because early in, when we studied him in Acts, you know,
Speaker:he had the gift of tongues and he was able to speak in so many languages and
Speaker:he's was training to be a Pharisee.
Speaker:So I always picture him as this gifted orator.
Speaker:And sometimes I wonder if he deliberately had to simplify and condescend in a way
Speaker:in order to take the attention off of himself and put it back on the message.
Speaker:I don't know exactly, but sometimes that fits with Joseph Smith's description of
Speaker:Paul just a little bit better for me.
Speaker:But I like the way he, where he goes next 12, he says, for, we dare
Speaker:not make ourselves of the number or compare ourselves with some that
Speaker:commend themselves, but they measuring themselves by themselves and comparing
Speaker:themselves among themselves are not wise.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Here's why I like this.
Speaker:You guys.
Speaker:So last week, one of the reasons there was this great big stress is I, I helped
Speaker:host this really, really big party.
Speaker:Um, it's a big event for a group of business.
Speaker:And one of the challenges I set up was a measuring challenge.
Speaker:So they had to find the distance from location a to location B.
Speaker:And one of the teams came back at the end and we were tallying up
Speaker:scores and he said, I want you to know your measuring clue was off.
Speaker:And I was like, Oh, you're kidding.
Speaker:We measured that so carefully.
Speaker:Jason set that up and we were talking about what he thought was off.
Speaker:And then his other teammate basically said to him, like, you have to
Speaker:tell her how you were measuring.
Speaker:And I found out.
Speaker:that he was measuring.
Speaker:Not with the measuring tape I provided him in the backpack,
Speaker:but with his feet, you guys.
Speaker:And I laughed at him.
Speaker:I'm like, are you serious?
Speaker:You're telling me my clue is off when you didn't even get out a measuring tape?
Speaker:And he's like, you don't understand.
Speaker:I've measured my feet.
Speaker:I know exactly how big my stride is.
Speaker:Yours is off.
Speaker:And I'm just laughing at the, to me, that was just preposterous.
Speaker:I'm like, the only way we can know if it's off is if you use the
Speaker:measuring tape that's in the backpack.
Speaker:That's how we're going to know for sure.
Speaker:Anything there has to be a standard between us and I feel like that's what
Speaker:Paul is saying here He's basically saying to them like you can't make up your own
Speaker:measuring stick that God has provided a ruler He knows exactly how to judge
Speaker:and he knows exactly the worth of souls and his ruler is what I will use Every
Speaker:other measuring stick, and every other popularity contest, or whatever you
Speaker:want to call it in this mortal world, those measuring devices are not real.
Speaker:What matters to Paul, and what should matter to us, is
Speaker:that we're using God's rule.
Speaker:And that's what he says in 13.
Speaker:We will not boast of things without our measure, but according to the measure of
Speaker:the rule which God hath distributed to us.
Speaker:He gave us a measuring tape.
Speaker:We need to use His standard to judge.
Speaker:A measure to reach even unto you.
Speaker:And then when he goes in 17 and 18, he takes this a little farther.
Speaker:He says, But he that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
Speaker:For not he that commendeth himself is approved, but whom the Lord commendeth.
Speaker:To me, this is Paul saying, I may not look like much.
Speaker:I, I, I'm a tent maker.
Speaker:You know, I will not get into these squabbles with all these other
Speaker:people who claim to be teachers.
Speaker:What I can tell you is I was appointed by God.
Speaker:I'm authorized.
Speaker:I have keys to do this work.
Speaker:I know who I am and I know why I'm here.
Speaker:Can you trust in that?
Speaker:Can you trust in the God who gave me this situation that he will empower me to do
Speaker:whatever it is I need to do and set aside all those other pleasing distractions and
Speaker:focus in on what God told me to teach you?
Speaker:One of the things I think we can know for certain is that
Speaker:the adversary is not creative.
Speaker:He is not, he does not come up with new strategies.
Speaker:He's able to use the exact same one he's used for a long time and pull
Speaker:people away from light and truth.
Speaker:That's what you're going to see in 11, because basically
Speaker:Paul is warning the people.
Speaker:He's like, the adversary has been trying to do this for a long time.
Speaker:He's been trying to, Overcomplicate things and set up false t shirts and people
Speaker:who will tell you what is comfortable and what is pleasing and then you know
Speaker:Eat drink and be merry kind of attitude.
Speaker:He's like that's been around for a while So I need you to be on the offensive.
Speaker:I need you to use those weapons that we talked about in the chapter before
Speaker:to be on the offensive and guard against the deceits and the lies.
Speaker:I really love Elder Holland's approach on this.
Speaker:He says, basically, this is making God in our own image.
Speaker:When we choose to speak of Jesus in a way that is not who he is, but who
Speaker:we hope he would be, you know, the God that's comfortable to me, the one
Speaker:that doesn't have high expectations, or is never disappointed, or has
Speaker:no boundaries or limits, that that is not the actual Jesus Christ.
Speaker:That is our own That's making God in our own image, and that never leads to faith,
Speaker:and it never leads to the covenant path.
Speaker:So that's what Paul's warning about, that they're going to get corrupted from
Speaker:the simplicity that is in Jesus Christ.
Speaker:And then in four, he says, For if he that cometh preaches another Jesus,
Speaker:whom we have not preached, or if you receive another spirit, which
Speaker:you have not received, or another gospel, which you have not accepted,
Speaker:you might well bear with him.
Speaker:This is his warning.
Speaker:There is no other way.
Speaker:There is one way.
Speaker:There is the Savior's way, and there is no other way.
Speaker:What's interesting is, I guess you could say that there are a myriad of other ways.
Speaker:There's just one right way.
Speaker:And honestly, if you choose anything except for the Savior's, true Savior's
Speaker:way, it doesn't really matter what you choose, like Elder Corbridge taught.
Speaker:They all lead to darkness, to despair at some point.
Speaker:So that's what Paul's trying to warn against.
Speaker:And he reminds them that he doesn't come in a pretty package
Speaker:and he won't come comfortably.
Speaker:So in six he says, Though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge,
Speaker:but we have been thoroughly made manifest among you in all things.
Speaker:I also like what he says in 13.
Speaker:He says, For such are false prophets, deceitful workers, transforming
Speaker:themselves into apostles of Christ.
Speaker:It's the transforming themselves that I think is so fascinating.
Speaker:Because we know that you can't appoint yourself.
Speaker:You can't ordain yourself to anything within the priesthood.
Speaker:This is something that has to come through authorized channels, and it
Speaker:is not something you get to pick for yourself or ordain yourself to become.
Speaker:It has to come through other sources.
Speaker:It has to be through his way.
Speaker:So in 14 he says, And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed
Speaker:into an angel of light.
Speaker:Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the
Speaker:ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works.
Speaker:This is Paul saying clearly and even sharply, I think there's going to be
Speaker:some really convincing counterfeits out there and you need to check it.
Speaker:You need to constantly check for alignment with Jesus Christ
Speaker:because there are going to be.
Speaker:Really close.
Speaker:The visual that helps me is, you know, those early mission impossibles.
Speaker:They probably still do it in mission impossibles today.
Speaker:I haven't watched one in a while, but you know, when they would show a character and
Speaker:they'd be in the scene for like 10 minutes and you'd be engaged with this character.
Speaker:And then out of nowhere, they like pull that face off and you see like underneath
Speaker:this very convincing face, there was a whole different person underneath.
Speaker:That's what I think the adversary is like, he will.
Speaker:He will set people up to appear to be lights, to appear to be guideposts that
Speaker:we can watch and get distracted by.
Speaker:But anything that's out of that laser like alignment with that chief cornerstone
Speaker:can't take us to where we need to go.
Speaker:I feel like that's what Paul's trying to say.
Speaker:He's like, don't look on the outward appearance.
Speaker:I think it's the same way our prophet has pushed us to increase our ability to
Speaker:receive revelation, because there's going to be some really convincing counterfeits.
Speaker:I think you see that in our world today, where it's really hard to
Speaker:know what is true and what is not.
Speaker:So having the ability to trust in the Spirit, and especially the gift of
Speaker:discernment that can come with it, that's a powerful tool in our arsenal of these
Speaker:offensive weapons against the adversary.
Speaker:That's what I think Paul's trying to push us towards.
Speaker:And then he warns where they all go, that at the end, there's no other...
Speaker:There is no other course for them.
Speaker:So they all will lead you to darkness.
Speaker:I think his invitation is simply, look at the fruits.
Speaker:In fact, that's where he goes next in the chapter.
Speaker:He basically says, look at the fruits of my life.
Speaker:And then he lays out...
Speaker:Follow his advice.
Speaker:I just think this is a really interesting tactic.
Speaker:He basically says, so if you look from like 23 to 28, he talks about all the
Speaker:things that have gone wrong according to men's standards in his world.
Speaker:I am more in labors abundant in stripes above measure in prisons
Speaker:more frequent in deaths off of the Jews 40 stripes save one.
Speaker:That's like the Ultimate penalty you can get, according to the Law of Moses.
Speaker:Thrice I was beaten with rods, once I was stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a
Speaker:night and a day I have spent deep, been in the deep, in journeyings often, in
Speaker:perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by my own countrymen, in
Speaker:perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in
Speaker:perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren, in weariness and painfulness.
Speaker:In watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness.
Speaker:And beside all those things, this is in 28, that are without, meaning
Speaker:like things that come from the outside towards me, I also have
Speaker:the struggle that happens within.
Speaker:That which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches.
Speaker:You know, if you've seen a bishop or a stake president or a young women's
Speaker:leader and the weight that is on their shoulders as they worry profoundly for
Speaker:the people that are in their watch carry.
Speaker:You know, you've probably seen Relief Society presidents who don't sleep
Speaker:at night at times because they're so worried for the needs of the sisters.
Speaker:That's what Paul's.
Speaker:Wrestling with all these outside forces that he can't control and the
Speaker:inside weight of setting up all these branches and trying to keep them going.
Speaker:Like that's a lot on his shoulders.
Speaker:What I think is fascinating is he says, I anger not like all this has happened.
Speaker:If you look at the JST of 29, he's saying, I'm not angry because of it.
Speaker:I've learned to understand that that is a witness to me.
Speaker:It reminds me of.
Speaker:Joseph Smith.
Speaker:In fact, he kind of references these verses and basically says like, deep
Speaker:waters are what I want to swim in.
Speaker:I love that verse.
Speaker:I've loved it for a long time because I think that's what we're trying to get to.
Speaker:We're trying to get to the point where we, we don't hope for adversity, but we
Speaker:Anticipate it and we trust that in the adversity he can make my spiritual mother
Speaker:muscles strong enough to be buoyant.
Speaker:I can withstand the deep and I can withstand shipwrecks and I can transcend
Speaker:the doubts and the fears of others like I can I can make it through all of this
Speaker:without anger without losing my faith.
Speaker:That's where Paul is.
Speaker:What I really like, and I think I said this to those of you who were in
Speaker:the live a couple weeks ago, there's this great quote from Elder Maxwell.
Speaker:I don't think I put it in this week's notes, but it's in the previous weeks
Speaker:where he talked about how in adversity, it's kind of like a kaleidoscope that even
Speaker:though things are fractured and broken, what, what the adversity through the lens
Speaker:of Christ is, is it's almost like viewing broken things through a kaleidoscope.
Speaker:We can see that there is brokenness, but you also see this divine,
Speaker:beautiful pattern that comes because of looking through his lens.
Speaker:You can see these broken things become a pattern and a beautiful thing.
Speaker:I just, I think that's what Paul gets.
Speaker:He's like, even in these hard things that other men caused to happen
Speaker:to me, I'm looking through a lens and I can see God's hand in it.
Speaker:Not that God caused it, but that God can make something beautiful come from it.
Speaker:The same way a kaleidoscope can take broken beads and shards of
Speaker:glass and turn them into these beautiful geometric patterns.
Speaker:That's the idea that Paul wants us to grasp.
Speaker:So that as we head into hard times and we deal with the weights on our
Speaker:shoulders, that we can trust that there's a greater plan at play.
Speaker:We can trust that there is, he can make all things work together for our good.
Speaker:I think that's Paul's big message in chapter 11.
Speaker:In addition to a life full of adversities and persecutions, and
Speaker:somehow this ability to not be angered and not be lost in all that struggle.
Speaker:Another credibility stance that Paul can take is that he
Speaker:has revelations and visions.
Speaker:That's something that no false teacher or false apostle could claim.
Speaker:He is someone who is an authorized seer.
Speaker:So he...
Speaker:Has seen things and that's where he's going to take us next in chapter 12.
Speaker:It's really interesting to me, interesting to me to see the tone shift.
Speaker:So in 11, where he's pretty open and even bold at times to give us the
Speaker:list of all the things he's endured in 12, there's a softness, um, a
Speaker:humility, even like a reticence.
Speaker:Like he is, I think, awestruck by what he experienced the same way he, we know he
Speaker:has seen the resurrected savior already.
Speaker:We, he has seen some.
Speaker:grand and glorious things.
Speaker:He just can't speak them, or at least he can't write them to the Corinthian saints.
Speaker:I think it's probably related to what we read in Doctrine and Covenants.
Speaker:Um, this is 63 64.
Speaker:It says, that which comes from above is sacred and must be spoken with
Speaker:care and by constraint of the spirit.
Speaker:For whatever reason, Paul's not allowed to explain or give
Speaker:us details about what he saw.
Speaker:But we do know that he saw the third heaven.
Speaker:So, something similar to what Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon saw, where they, he had
Speaker:an experience in the kingdoms of glory.
Speaker:And it sure seems like he had a very tangible experience, because he can't tell
Speaker:if he was in the body or out of the body.
Speaker:What's interesting is he uses this...
Speaker:He uses a form of speech where he's talking as if it's about another person,
Speaker:but later the way he phrases things about, you know, not glorying too much tells
Speaker:you that this actually happened to Paul.
Speaker:He's just using a different way of speech to talk about it.
Speaker:So he talks about something that happened to a person 14 years ago
Speaker:where he was caught up to the third heaven or caught up to paradise.
Speaker:So this is when we get a feel for the kingdoms of glory in the New Testament.
Speaker:And then we start to understand that the same gospel that was restored
Speaker:to the earth is the Savior's gospel that he placed on the earth.
Speaker:Those same teachings were in place in the Savior's time.
Speaker:They've just been lost over the course of time.
Speaker:And that's why we needed the restoration.
Speaker:But you can see his phrasing about it.
Speaker:It is so soft and so humble and just a fraction.
Speaker:You know, the same thing happened with Joseph Smith, where when you read his
Speaker:writings about section 76, he basically says that he says, I could only give
Speaker:you a small portion of what I saw.
Speaker:And it is this glorious.
Speaker:I mean, you read section 76.
Speaker:I remember when we were studying that in the Doctrine and Covenants and feeling
Speaker:like the universe expanded a little bit.
Speaker:That might sound dramatic to you, but that's how I felt when I was studying it.
Speaker:I was like, the deeper I get into understanding what Joseph saw, the bigger
Speaker:the universe feels to me, the greater God feels to me, and I think that's the
Speaker:nature of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Speaker:I think the more we understand it and study it, The more there
Speaker:is to learn, it expands with us.
Speaker:Well, I mean, it probably doesn't actually expand, but
Speaker:it feels like that to my brain.
Speaker:And that's what I think is happening with Paul.
Speaker:So he describes it a little bit, and then he talks about how he can't share it.
Speaker:I just thought it was fascinating to see what he describes next.
Speaker:So we're in 11, we learned all about the adversities that came from outside
Speaker:forces, you know, people trying to stone him, people trying to, you know, storms
Speaker:that would shipwreck him and people that would try to, you know, give him lashings.
Speaker:All these things happened to Paul.
Speaker:In 12, we see something that happens from what seems like the hand of God,
Speaker:an adversity that happens that God could relieve Paul from, but doesn't.
Speaker:And it's fascinating.
Speaker:So this is what he says in six.
Speaker:For though I would desire to glory, I shall be a fool.
Speaker:I will say the truth, but now I forbear, lest any man should think of me above
Speaker:that which he seemeth, he seeth me to be, or that he heareth of me.
Speaker:And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of
Speaker:the revelations, there was given to me a thorn of the flesh, the
Speaker:messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
Speaker:I don't know exactly what this means, you guys, but to me, I feel like this thorn
Speaker:of the flesh, whatever it is, whatever adversity Paul had to carry with him,
Speaker:if it's a physical ailment, if it's an inability to speak clearly, if it's a
Speaker:mental struggle that he has, I don't know what his thorn of the flesh was.
Speaker:What I do know is that he saw it as a way to Stay present.
Speaker:That's how I read these verses.
Speaker:To me, I think Paul is saying, well, kind of similar to what we saw with Moses.
Speaker:When he comes down from Sinai, and he is so full of the Spirit, and he's had such a
Speaker:glorious manifestation of what is real and what is out there, that his face glows.
Speaker:You know, same thing with Abinadi.
Speaker:His face Glows and Moses in that case needed a veil to cover his face because
Speaker:it made it hard to interact with people people Were afraid of him and
Speaker:it was hard for him to stay present.
Speaker:I think that's kind of what you're seeing with this Lord of the flesh It's a way
Speaker:for the Lord to say I'm gonna I'm gonna show you some things because you are my
Speaker:apostle and because I want You to know who I am, but I can't you need to stay you
Speaker:have a work to do I wonder sometimes if you've had an experience like Paul's where
Speaker:you've seen what the celestial kingdom is like to any degree If then it would be
Speaker:very hard To want to stay and maybe the Lord of the flesh helps him stay grounded
Speaker:or maybe it helps him relate to people.
Speaker:But I do love that he prays to have it lifted and I also love what you
Speaker:learn about why it doesn't get lifted.
Speaker:So this is what he says in eight, for this thing, I besought the Lord
Speaker:thrice that it might depart from me.
Speaker:You just have to love that about Paul, despite the fact that he knows this
Speaker:is an adversity that God could have lifted and that he prayed for it once
Speaker:and didn't get, didn't get the answer.
Speaker:Then he comes back a second time.
Speaker:I don't know if this is years apart.
Speaker:Like, I don't know his circumstances.
Speaker:He's praying for this adversity to be lifted probably so he
Speaker:can be a better missionary.
Speaker:He could travel easier.
Speaker:He could be more impressive to people.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:I don't know what his...
Speaker:what the situation was, but I do know where his heart is.
Speaker:I mean, Paul, all he wants to do is be a better disciple of
Speaker:Jesus Christ and teach better.
Speaker:So what he's hoping for most likely is an ability to do that.
Speaker:And for whatever reason that isn't given to him.
Speaker:I just think it's fascinating.
Speaker:So if you look a little further in nine, he says, and he said, meaning
Speaker:the Lord said unto me, my grace is sufficient for thee, for my
Speaker:strength is made perfect in weakness.
Speaker:Most gladly, therefore, will I rather glory in my infirmities that the
Speaker:power of Christ may rest upon me.
Speaker:Here's what I love about this, you guys.
Speaker:I think, when you think about the Savior, He is someone who was made
Speaker:perfect in weakness, meaning He chose to condescend and be And to submit,
Speaker:you know, he chose to allow himself to endure all those hard things and endure
Speaker:temptations and endure the people who came to apprehend him in Gethsemane and
Speaker:endure the Roman soldiers and the cross.
Speaker:He chose to be in a position of absolute weakness and in that
Speaker:choice gained absolute strength.
Speaker:He is the epitome of strength in those moments of choosing to be vulnerable.
Speaker:What I like about that for us, maybe just for me, is I think the
Speaker:invitation is very similar to us.
Speaker:There are often times when the Lord asked me to be in a position
Speaker:of vulnerability, and he says, I can't guarantee any results for you.
Speaker:You know, for example, if you think about Getting married, it's this
Speaker:position of vulnerability, right?
Speaker:Even if I pray about it and feel good about the person I marry, that
Speaker:doesn't guarantee that this person will be righteous all their life, or
Speaker:that our marriage will go great, or that we'll be able to have kids, or...
Speaker:It doesn't give me any guarantees.
Speaker:I'm in a big position of vulnerability when I choose to be in that spot.
Speaker:But what the Lord promises is...
Speaker:The only way you're going to really learn to love the way I know
Speaker:how to love is you have to be in those positions of vulnerability.
Speaker:The same thing happens if you go on a mission, right?
Speaker:If you choose, there's no way heading into a mission that you're going to know
Speaker:if you're going to like your mission president, if you're going to have good
Speaker:companions or incredibly hard ones.
Speaker:If you're going to be out preaching or if you're going to be stuck in your
Speaker:apartment for six weeks or six months because of COVID, there are no guarantees.
Speaker:What he promises you is by making yourself vulnerable.
Speaker:And in this position of weakness, he will bless you with strength.
Speaker:That's the promise.
Speaker:Strength comes as you embrace that vulnerable state of yielding to him.
Speaker:That's what I think King Benjamin is trying to teach us.
Speaker:He's trying to say, yield to the enticings of the Holy Spirit.
Speaker:Choose to be vulnerable.
Speaker:Everything you have on the altar.
Speaker:In fact, there's a great quote.
Speaker:I can't remember who it's from.
Speaker:That's earlier in the notes, but he basically talked about that.
Speaker:This has been the recipe for Christian living always that you give all you
Speaker:can holding nothing back and trust that in his hands, it can be made
Speaker:enough and you will have the promise.
Speaker:That's what I think he's asking us.
Speaker:What I love about it is it's the only way we're going to learn to love as he loves.
Speaker:to be all in, right?
Speaker:The Savior was all in and he sacrificed absolutely everything so
Speaker:that from the love he had for us, so that we could be strengthened.
Speaker:And I think that's what he's asking us to do as we embrace
Speaker:having kids and starting families.
Speaker:It's this incredible state of vulnerability.
Speaker:that leads to an incredible strength.
Speaker:There was a podcast I listened to this morning.
Speaker:Uh, I can't remember the professor.
Speaker:I put it in the notes, but he kind of talked about this and how it can
Speaker:lead to faith and hope and charity.
Speaker:It was so beautiful.
Speaker:Go read it in the notes and then go listen.
Speaker:But I just think that's, that's weakness to strength.
Speaker:It's, it's about choosing to be vulnerable and choosing to yield so that we
Speaker:can, He can make something out of us.
Speaker:I just don't think it's this back and forth.
Speaker:I don't think it's, he turns all my weaknesses into strengths.
Speaker:I'm still in a position of vulnerability by being the parent to these six kids.
Speaker:In fact, the more I love them, the more vulnerable I am to hurt.
Speaker:The more I love my grandkids that have come, my heart goes out to them.
Speaker:And now I'm even more vulnerable.
Speaker:There's something bad happened to them.
Speaker:My heart would break.
Speaker:It's.
Speaker:That's, that's this life and that's what it's like to learn how to be a God.
Speaker:We know that from our, what we've studied with Enoch and how God still weeps for
Speaker:his children or Jacob 5 when he still grieves for the trees that are lost.
Speaker:That's what it is to have a God like love, to love much and to
Speaker:be in a vulnerable spot where you will also hurt and grieve and ache.
Speaker:And I just think it's beautiful teaching.
Speaker:You can go to the notes and learn a little bit more, but I love that principle.
Speaker:When you go into 10, you'll see how Paul comes to terms with this
Speaker:understanding, that this adversity isn't going to be pulled from him,
Speaker:and he knows it's something that will strengthen him in the long run.
Speaker:He says, Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, and
Speaker:in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake.
Speaker:For when I am weak, then I am strong.
Speaker:The reason I like that phrasing is it's not, I'm going to be weak
Speaker:now so that I can be strong later.
Speaker:He's saying in this position of weakness, I'm actually strong in these
Speaker:vulnerable relationships that we're placed in and in these callings and in
Speaker:these circumstances where we're exposed and all in, we are actually strong in
Speaker:those moments because we are like he is right in that, in that submissive
Speaker:position to God, the father's plan.
Speaker:And that's where strength comes from.
Speaker:I just think it's beautifully written.
Speaker:One of my favorite verses in this chapter is verse 14, where he says, Behold,
Speaker:the third time I am ready to come to you, and I will not be burdensome to
Speaker:you, for I seek not yours, but you.
Speaker:This, I think, is Paul's way of saying, this isn't about
Speaker:me trying to solicit funds.
Speaker:This isn't about me trying to get you to do callings better.
Speaker:This isn't, it's not any of those surface level things.
Speaker:What I want is You almost hear Elder Holland's words when you read that,
Speaker:you know, when he has that talk where about the fish and he says, if
Speaker:I, if I need fish, I can get fish.
Speaker:And what I want is you, what I want is disciples.
Speaker:And I want you to go out and I want you to feed my sheep.
Speaker:He wants their hearts in this.
Speaker:He's not seeking something that can be measured.
Speaker:He wants to bring them to Christ.
Speaker:That's always Paul's goal.
Speaker:And then he talks about how that's going to happen.
Speaker:So remember how earlier we talked about how he often will speak to, instruction
Speaker:and edifying and destruction and edifying.
Speaker:That's what you see in 19.
Speaker:Again, thinking that we excuse ourselves unto you, we speak before
Speaker:God in Christ, but we do all things dearly beloved for your edifying.
Speaker:This is Paul saying, I'm not just accountable to you,
Speaker:I'm accountable to Christ.
Speaker:So I'm gonna say Whatever he asked me to say.
Speaker:And if it's something edifying and lifting, I will say it.
Speaker:And if it's something destructive for a minute, so that you will
Speaker:change course, I will say it.
Speaker:That's my job.
Speaker:In fact, that's what he warns about in 21 as well.
Speaker:He's like, that should...
Speaker:Indicate to you who I am.
Speaker:The very fact that I am willing to correct you and to create tension in
Speaker:our relationship so that you can come closer to Christ should be the ultimate
Speaker:witness that I am who I say I am.
Speaker:I am an apostle of Jesus Christ because of those things.
Speaker:And because I've chosen to abide by what he's asked me to do, I will continue to
Speaker:correct and I will continue to guide you on this path to the right source of truth.
Speaker:There's a lot of power packed into this final chapter, even though it's short.
Speaker:There's just some beautiful phrasing in it.
Speaker:I really like three.
Speaker:For example, he says, since you seek a proof of Christ speaking in me,
Speaker:which is to you word is not weak, but mighty in you, meaning like
Speaker:you have expectations of what a man of God is supposed to sound like.
Speaker:And you're listening, hoping that I will sound like what you expected.
Speaker:And then what he says in four.
Speaker:Helps them understand.
Speaker:He says, for though he was crucified through weakness yet He liveth by
Speaker:the power of God for we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him
Speaker:by the power of God toward you He's saying, use the Savior as an example.
Speaker:He is someone who is the epitome of, of choosing vulnerability and
Speaker:weakness so that he could be strong, so that he could accomplish this
Speaker:great work for God the Father.
Speaker:That's something that you'll see echoed in us.
Speaker:You're gonna see us choose to be weak and vulnerable and submissive to the
Speaker:will of God so that you can be made strong, so that we can pass on his
Speaker:goodness and his light towards you.
Speaker:So that's what he's gonna say as you go a little further.
Speaker:In eight, he says, for we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth,
Speaker:in nine, for we are glad when we are weak, and ye are strong, and in this
Speaker:we wish even for your perfection.
Speaker:Paul will willingly do whatever the Lord asks him to do.
Speaker:I just think he's got that stance of, I don't care.
Speaker:I don't care what people think about me.
Speaker:I don't care what other, you know, Fancier priests and teachers look like I
Speaker:care about being reconciled to God, and that's what he wants us to do as well.
Speaker:So he's like, that's my whole focus and that should tell
Speaker:you that I am who I say I am.
Speaker:And then 10 he says, therefore I write these things being
Speaker:absent, Les being present.
Speaker:I should use sharpness according to the power of which the Lord has given me
Speaker:to edification and not to destruction.
Speaker:He's, he's going to come, he's going to speak in person.
Speaker:That's what he's warning about and it's gonna be sharp.
Speaker:So this is sort of his.
Speaker:Early warning system.
Speaker:You know, I think it's the same thing we read in the Book of
Speaker:Mormon where they say, this life is the time, prepare to meet God.
Speaker:It's, you've had guidance, you've had warnings now, choose to change.
Speaker:Remember this whole lesson is about using your agency to choose to follow,
Speaker:not because you feel compelled or guilty or afraid of consequences,
Speaker:but because you trust in the God that created this great plan.
Speaker:That's what Paul's pushing them towards.
Speaker:I love the way he says it in 11, finally, brethren, farewell.
Speaker:Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace, and the God
Speaker:of love and peace shall be with you.
Speaker:To me, this is almost like he's setting up a math equation.
Speaker:He's basically saying if your goal is to have the God of love and peace be with
Speaker:you, this is what needs to come first.
Speaker:You need to be perfect, be of good comfort and be of one mind, live in peace.
Speaker:That's his equation.
Speaker:What I think is impressive is be perfect.
Speaker:Like we've heard about from President Nelson is not.
Speaker:Do everything flawlessly.
Speaker:It means be whole.
Speaker:Use the gift of grace that is offered to you and be whole.
Speaker:One of my favorite talks that I studied this week is from Paul Johnston, and
Speaker:he was talking about his grandson, or Johnson maybe, he was talking about his
Speaker:grandson who had, I think it was some sort of a blood disease, like a leukemia.
Speaker:It's fuzzy in my head, but it's in the notes, and he talked about how he needed
Speaker:Someone else to be a donor to give him blood and how crazy it would have been
Speaker:to assume that that little boy could have Done this on his own that he needed
Speaker:an advocate He needed an intercessor to act for him so that he could become
Speaker:clean again And that's how we should approach the Savior as well knowing that
Speaker:we are weak and knowing that only his
Speaker:It's not something we can earn on our own or somehow produce on our own.
Speaker:It doesn't matter how, how perfectly we live this life, we
Speaker:cannot do it without his help.
Speaker:So that's what he says when he says be perfect.
Speaker:To me, that means be repentant, be continually seeking after the help
Speaker:of Jesus Christ, be aware and self evaluate and then move forward.
Speaker:In fact, that's what he says in five.
Speaker:He says, examine yourselves, whether you be in the faith, prove your own selves,
Speaker:know you not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except if you
Speaker:reprobates, like this is his message.
Speaker:He's like the same way.
Speaker:When I go to a Temple Recommend interview, I get to evaluate myself.
Speaker:The hope there is I'll hear those questions and I'll
Speaker:be able to answer honestly.
Speaker:And if I have concerns, then I go back and I fix those concerns.
Speaker:Or I work with the bishop and I fix those concerns, but I'm examining myself.
Speaker:It's not, it's not a test I'm passing.
Speaker:I get to self evaluate.
Speaker:That's what Paul's inviting these saints to do as well.
Speaker:He's saying, you need to check in with yourself and see how you're doing.
Speaker:How are the fruits of the gospel working in your life?
Speaker:Can you see them?
Speaker:And so he invites them to be perfect, to be of good comfort, meaning the kind of
Speaker:comfort we talked about last week, you know, that boxer coach kind of comfort,
Speaker:be of a good comfort, meaning make course corrections, listen to All the guidance
Speaker:that come, that comes from the spirit and make changes, be of one mind, meaning
Speaker:you've got to work with your hearts knit.
Speaker:This is not just about you and the Lord.
Speaker:This is about you and the Lord so that you can go and be a part of this
Speaker:greater community and bring others to that relationship with the Lord.
Speaker:It's, it's bigger than just you and live in peace.
Speaker:I think that's his invitation.
Speaker:I think that's an internal peace and an external one.
Speaker:No matter what my circumstances are, no matter if my persecutions
Speaker:start to feel like Paul's, I can choose to live in peace.
Speaker:If I find that freedom of the soul that we've been talking
Speaker:about, that's his invitation.
Speaker:Live in peace.
Speaker:Choose to transcend the hard and seek for something higher.
Speaker:And if we do those things, then we have the promise of the other side
Speaker:of the equation that we'll have the God of love and peace with us.
Speaker:And then in 14 he ends, The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the
Speaker:love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost be with you all.
Speaker:Amen.
Speaker:I really like that at the end of Paul's big discourse, he focuses on the entire
Speaker:Godhead, and how they work in harmony, and how we need all three of them
Speaker:to appreciate where we go from here.
Speaker:That's his invitation.
Speaker:I think it's the same thing that Moroni ended with in the Book of Mormon,
Speaker:where he said, Come unto Christ.
Speaker:Be perfected in Him.
Speaker:You know, like, set down all this...
Speaker:Distraction and come closer.
Speaker:That's Paul's invitation to the Corinthian saints, and I think
Speaker:it's his invitation to us as well.
Speaker:His grace is sufficient.
Speaker:We should seek to come close.
Speaker:Hey everybody, welcome back.
Speaker:This is the creative side of week 38.
Speaker:So just like every single week, especially with Paul's writings, I'm trying to help
Speaker:you take some of the principles that you read about in the verses and find
Speaker:ways to apply them to our kids lives.
Speaker:The way I like to do that is through weird and creative object lessons.
Speaker:And this week is no exception.
Speaker:So if you're watching on the full course, You'll be able to keep watching
Speaker:beyond this and see the full videos of each object lesson and have the
Speaker:access to the notes and the printables.
Speaker:If you happen to be watching this on YouTube or listening on the free podcast,
Speaker:I'm just hoping to inspire you to give you an idea of what you could focus on or
Speaker:different ways that you could teach it.
Speaker:My hope here is that you'll just find ways to inspire your kids to.
Speaker:get into their scriptures and to see that the teachings of Paul thousands
Speaker:of years ago apply to us today.
Speaker:And I think I've got some really fun ways for you to do that.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Let me walk you through your supplies list first, and then I'll go into the details.
Speaker:First off, I wanted to put a big, warm spotlight on ministering.
Speaker:So this week, the focus, in fact, I think it's a title of the lesson
Speaker:that God loveth a cheerful giver.
Speaker:And I think in ministering, especially since our youth are
Speaker:involved so heavily in ministering now, I wanted to find some way to.
Speaker:warm that up a bit.
Speaker:Sometimes when we talk about ministering, there's an immediate
Speaker:like deflation in the room.
Speaker:People's shoulders slew stoop and they're just struggle to feel engaged.
Speaker:So I wanted some way to like pep that up, especially with the youth.
Speaker:I started searching online for ministering ideas and I felt like
Speaker:every one of them was targeted.
Speaker:To a very Relief Society audience and I wanted something fun for teenagers
Speaker:and for guys and so we're doing pizza I'll explain why in just a second, but
Speaker:I created for you what i'm calling a ministering kit This is designed to go
Speaker:with a pizza to the houses that you're ministering and gives you a chance to be a
Speaker:more cheerful giver of this gift of taking care of God's sheep for him, feeding his
Speaker:sheep in the way that he asked us to.
Speaker:And I'll walk you through how to pull this off in just a second.
Speaker:I think you're going to love it.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Second one.
Speaker:This is really simple since the first, the first and the last
Speaker:are a little more complicated.
Speaker:The second one I wanted to point out that verse from Paul about using God's
Speaker:measuring tools that some people were.
Speaker:seeing the other priests and the false teachers that were out there
Speaker:and measuring them against themselves.
Speaker:In fact, the priests themselves were measuring themselves against themselves.
Speaker:And he said, God gave us a standard.
Speaker:He gave us a measuring tool.
Speaker:We need to use his pattern.
Speaker:And there's a really easy way to teach this.
Speaker:And the only tool you're going to need is a simple measuring tape, even a ruler,
Speaker:if you want to use something smaller, but I think a measuring tape gives you a
Speaker:little more fun and a lot more options.
Speaker:So grab a measuring tape.
Speaker:You'll be good for that one.
Speaker:The third one is the most adventurous of the three.
Speaker:It's guts and glory week, you guys.
Speaker:So when you scratch off your circle on the chart, There's going to be a little
Speaker:rocket ship under it and that means we have to take things to a whole new level.
Speaker:So this week we are going to create a cloud in a bottle and I'll show you how.
Speaker:The supplies you need are actually really, really easy.
Speaker:You're just going to need a two liter bottle.
Speaker:You want to get it as clear as you can.
Speaker:So for me, I used a Fresca bottle and I took the label off
Speaker:and then you're going to need.
Speaker:a bike pump and a tire valve.
Speaker:So I'll walk you through what kind of tire valve you're going to need.
Speaker:You can get it at any auto parts store or the auto aisle in like a Walmart
Speaker:or even a Target might have it.
Speaker:I promise they're readily accessible and they only cost a dollar or
Speaker:two and they'll make your lives in cloud making so much easier.
Speaker:I'll walk you through that in a second, but we're actually going to use it
Speaker:to teach about a thorn in the flesh.
Speaker:Why sometimes God allows adversities to continue even when we.
Speaker:Pray, and even when we are worthy to receive a miracle and sometimes they
Speaker:just don't come and we'll understand better why that happens and how to deal
Speaker:with it by making this crazy cloud.
Speaker:The reason I call it guts and glory for this particular object lesson is
Speaker:because it makes a very big boom sound when you, when you pull this off.
Speaker:So I, I think your family's going to love it.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So grab those supplies.
Speaker:Really all you need is cardstock for the printable and a bike
Speaker:pump, a tire valve and a fresco bottle and you'll be good to go.
Speaker:See, I told you it was going to be a good week.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:I hope you enjoy it.
Speaker:I hope your ministering gets better.
Speaker:I hope you make big booming sounds in your kitchen and just have a blast together.
Speaker:I also hope this helps you get into the words of Paul just a little bit more.
Speaker:I know it's hard.
Speaker:His writing is hard to understand in our modern lens, but I think
Speaker:there's a lot of goodness there.
Speaker:So go in the notes if you need extra support, or if you need
Speaker:to come join me on Instagram.
Speaker:10 a.
Speaker:m.
Speaker:Monday, that's when I'll chat through.
Speaker:Some of the insights I couldn't quite fit into the videos and then also talk through
Speaker:the creative in a little more detail.
Speaker:It's a good place to ask me.
Speaker:tips.
Speaker:I've gone through all these object lessons in a lot of trial runs.
Speaker:So I've learned a lot of things the hard way.
Speaker:So the live is a good place to ask me more specific questions.
Speaker:So if you have questions, come find me there.
Speaker:Otherwise you can leave questions on the discussion boards or on the
Speaker:YouTube channel, and I will get back to them as quick as I can.
Speaker:Otherwise, I hope you just get into your scriptures.
Speaker:Give it a shot.
Speaker:I promise there's goodness there.
Speaker:There are, there are rich, beautiful doctors like at your fingertips.
Speaker:They take a minute to fully digest, but I promise they're worth it.
Speaker:So get in your scriptures and enjoy it.
Speaker:And then come join me next week for week 39.