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Here we go. Another Wednesday. Another week. Another week. Another pod episode. What's what am I doing today, Mari? You pulled me on. I pulled you on. We are doing assumptions about us, addressing assumptions about us, whether they are true or false. Okay. I have only briefly glanced at these. I asked this on my story a few weeks ago and I don't believe I have shared them with you yet. So this will be a pretty fresh take. I think you shared like one or two with me, but yeah. But before we jump in, how are you doing? Oh my goodness. Let's have a heart to heart. Um, I'm joking. It doesn't, I'm joking. It doesn't have to be a heart to heart, but, um, we've had a kind of a crazy past few weeks. Yeah. Let's see. For starters, we're recording this. Tuesday night and it's going out Wednesday morning and I usually like to be a little bit more on top of things. It looks like, but we have been on the road. Um, I love to count the number of days we spent in our home traveling, not on the road. We're not like road tripping, but like we've been out of the house. I mean, it's, it all started in August 3rd, like very, very beginning of August or was it the end of June? It was before that. It was, it was like. It was before that. Before the NEC Congress. Yeah, before Nationally Encrusted Congress. So it's like. It's been since then that it's been super back to back. Since like July 12th. Maybe we've spent like. That makes me want to cry. Two weeks combined at our house. Maybe 30 weeks combined in our house since July 12th. No wonder we feel so frazzled, dude. Yeah, we're all over the place. July 12th? We are all over the place. That's been a long time. Yeah. Is that two months? August? September? I think it's two months. Feels like it could be six. Yeah, it feels like six. Um, but yeah, we just got home. We got home on Sunday night from New Sheraton. Yeah, we were visiting your family, which was great. In Washington. In Washington. The state. But you were gone for like three weeks. You had a friend's trip before that. I was gone for like three weeks. Yeah. And then we met in Washington and then we had another friend's trip and then we just both got sick and stayed an extra week that we weren't expecting. Which was nice. Yeah, it was kind of nice. With your family. Yeah. Got a little behind on work, but. Yeah. Super, super behind. But here we are. But that doesn't matter. No, it matters. It matters, but it's fine. We're going to ignore that. Okay. But I am kind of excited to get into this convo today because I love these combos with you when it's just kind of like on a whim and just talking about real life stuff. So I'm going to read out some assumptions. Basically how I framed this was like, I mean, I don't know that I really have to explain what assumptions are, but like things that you. AKA the people that follow me on Instagram, I'm assuming also listeners like perceive about Trey and I and our relationship and our life and either what we're like or what we love or things that we do or whatever. And we're going to talk about them, see if they resonate, see if they're true or not. Um, and just kind of like spill the truth. About who we really are. Alright, great. You wanna read some? Yes. Number one. You never get into fights. Uh, they must not be married. Whoever. You must not know what marriage is like. Of course we fight. Yeah, so that is false. Yes. We do get into fights. I would say that like one thing about us is that we don't, I mean, not that anybody likes fighting, but we like hate. Fighting with each other like we hate being upset with each other. I think that's everybody. I think that's everybody but also We also hate holding on to the fight. Yeah, no one likes fighting Yeah, no one likes fighting But I think it's very common for people to just be like so mad that they're just like well I'm going to, you know, hold his grudge. You're like, I'm going to stick it to him until he knows how bad it was. And I think like, I mean, you stick it. It's just, it's just short and sweet. It's short. I stick it. It's just quick and painful. And then it's over. Um, but this is, this is what's funny, Trey. And I feel like I've said this to you before, but. What's funny is like you're my best friend and you are like the number one person I like process my emotions with You being my husband, of course and so like when i'm mad at you or when you've made me sad like You are the first person I want to go to. Like, I want to still function. Well, no, no. And it's like, I'm mad at you, but like, I want you to hug me because I'm comforted by your hug, but you're the person I'm mad at. And so I'm just like, if we just get over the mad part as quick as possible, we can get to the comforting part and then we can go back to the happy part. Yeah. Well, so our fights are very quick. We definitely fight. Yeah. But our, but our fights are very quick. Usually. Pretty quick. Yeah. Yeah. We're not weeks on end. Yeah. And it's not like we fight big all the time. I would say like, we don't have a problem with confrontation to like, sure, we'll bicker here and there a little bit to just kind of be like, whatever, just your classic mirrored stuff. That's not how I worded it. That's not what I, this is what I meant. Well, you didn't, I, blah, blah, you know, listen to my words, listen to what I'm saying. Yeah. That's not what I meant. Yeah, just, just miscommunication, just stupid stuff, nothing big really, but we're best friends. So we get over it. Okay. Number two, you never shop on Timu. That is 1000 percent true. I have never shopped on Timu before. I don't think I knew what Timu was until like, he didn't know it maybe a couple months ago. Yeah. Yeah. I've, I don't feel like I've ever had a need for it. I mean, I have Amazon. And Timu, if you like, is sketchier, so, nope. No comment. No Timu. Oh, there's the next one. This is the one that actually fits here. Let me cover this up. Trevor, Trevor treats you like a princess. I hope Trevor doesn't treat you like a princess. Trevor does treat me like a princess. Um, I'm assuming this person meant Trey treats you like a princess, um, and. That would be true, in my opinion. Yeah, I try. I try. Um, so newsflash, my husband's name is Trey, not Trevor. But yeah, I mean, I feel so taken care of and pampered in the best way. In so many ways by Trey, he makes my life easy and yeah, I mean I couldn't not be married. I'm glad I try. Uh, okay. Next you live a perfectly holistic life. Nah, no, that's false. I mean, I mean, yeah, I would say like, there's definitely efforts, but like a perfectly holistic life. No, I mean, we just started learning. I started learning about all this like three years ago and really started implementing just the different things that I've learned in the past like year, year and a half. So there's a long ways to go. And I think when it comes to holistic living, clean living, um, There's a range there are those people and I'm not saying either is bad but like they're the people who are gonna go to one extreme of just like the full extent the full full full extent of like worrying about every single like Ingredient in any item in their home or any sort of thing that could possibly cause cancer which at this point is like everything and and sometimes You know, the emotional stress that comes with that is almost worse than the products you're encountering. And so there's, there's always that extent. Um, and I know that was more about like toxins and stuff, but, you know, holistic of just like, have your cow, your homestead, you know. Swallowing the raw beef liver. I don't think I could get there. Yeah. We do a lot of things that aren't to the extreme. Yeah. But like we try and implement things into our day to day life. Just the basics. Yeah. Just like natural things, natural, um, habits. I don't know what to call it. Like natural living habits. I feel like the word holistic has become such a buzzword where it's like, I don't even know what that means. It means. Yeah. And I feel like it means so much. And that's why I feel like holistic and crunchy. Yes. Like people like, yeah, people like bundle so many terms into holistic. Right. Because even clean living and holistic living can be different things. Right. Whereas clean living talks a little bit more about toxins. Holistic living is a little bit more about that. Like literally holistic, which means like all encompassing, like everything. Um, I feel like it's usually attributed more to like, Okay. Like I said, like homesteading and like making all your own stuff from scratch and, um, nose to tail eating and all this kind of stuff. And I would say there's a lot that I'm so attracted to and that we incorporate. I mean, I cook almost everything from scratch. We literally have, like, almost nothing. That's like freezer or packaged in our house. But I'm also, and I, and I try to be careful of and seed oils and everything, but like. If a snack that we buy has a seed oil, it's okay for the one time. Yeah. And we eat out and it's not like the end of the world. We try and, you know, we try and do things as healthy as possible with like the way that our lifestyle allows right now. And if we're able to incorporate more in some seasons and less than other seasons, we're not stressing about it. So definitely not perfect. Um, but always. Loving being in that growth mindset and doing as much as we can. And Trey's really like jumping on board, which is just like, you're the best. What's next? Uh, together you own 20 plus rosaries. Um, I, I don't, I don't think I could count. I mean, I have like two. Well, no. Okay. You may be, I have, I have one in my truck. And one that I like keep in my briefcase and kind of with me. I mean, if you count the number of rosaries we have in the house, yes, we have every single West coast Catholic rosary in the house and probably more that we've been gifted over the years. So yeah. I mean, we definitely have more than 20. There's definitely more than 20 for sure. And, and I actually use at least half of West Coast Catholics designs. Like I have, I have one in my purse. I have one in my car. I have one under my, I have like two in my bed, one under my pillow, one on my nightstand. Like I have a bunch, I love them all. So I use them all the time. That's true. Um, oh, cute. Not an assumption. Just truth. Y'all are relationship role models for so many. Thank you so much. Oh, thanks. So sweet. Oh, another 1 for you never have big fights. We already answered that. Oh, my gosh. Another 1. You guys don't have fights or disagreements. Wow. I mean, one thing is like, we're not going to publicly fight on Instagram. True. True. You're not ever going to see our fights, but that doesn't mean we don't fight. Yes. Just a reminder that Instagram is a highlight reel sometimes. Um, okay. You guys are really well off economically. This is an interesting one. I feel like I've gotten this one before. Okay. There's another one here. You and your business are pretty rich. So there was a few, I think when it comes to family finances. Yeah, and uh, I definitely don't consider us rich I think most of my friends make more than me. Yeah, like I don't consider us rich I would say like our business does really well We're really proud of the work that we do and our work is so unconventional to where like we're not dependent on a Regular salary job, like anybody else would be. And so when, especially with the content creator side, when you're an entrepreneur and when you're a content creator, you have so much more control of the income that's coming in. Whereas like you can do an extra push for another sale for the business, or I can choose to become an affiliate for another company and start promoting something that I'm, I've been using and loving and make some commission there. So it can be a little bit more flexible. Um, but. No, we're not. We're not rich. I would say we're pretty average. Yeah. And honest, like, if we're being honest, right. About like, what the economic state is and what people make. Yeah, we're pretty average. However, I would say like, I'm really happy with, you Yeah, how we were doing. And I feel like we're able to do so much still with what comes in financially. We're still able to travel a lot. Like I still buy clothes when the new season comes around, like you go golfing all the time. We're extremely blessed. Um, and so, Yeah, I mean, we're not like not doing well, but like in real terms of like, are you rich? Do we, are we just floating in money? No, we're not. And I think the other thing too is we, both Mara and I are more on the spender side instead of the saver side of the spectrum, I would say. So, I mean, we spend a lot, so it might look, because we spend more, maybe, than we save, like, I don't know, like, it's not like some, I feel like different couples have different mindsets about money. Like, some are, like, very heavily saving, and so they might not look on the outside as being rich. But they are making a lot and they just save a lot. Yeah, we, you know, we, I think we spend a lot or like we're more on the spendy side than the saving side. Yeah. I mean, we definitely saved every month. We, we have different, we're not going to go into our budgeting plans, but like. Like we have savings, we have different buckets for different purposes, and then we have our regular account. And once we have saved the amount that we have allotted to save, then we're like, okay, great. Do you want to go on a trip? Like, do you want to go golfing? Do you want to, yeah, do a home project. Like we buy gifts for our family every birthday. Like, so there's just different things that we spend money on. And the other thing I'd say with our business, uh, with West Coast Catholic, we've prioritized our time. Instead of like our paychecks. And so we've, uh, like when we were able to, we've been able to hire on team members to reduce the amount of time that is required of us for the business. Uh, and that's been our, up to this point, like that's how we've prioritized our business finances is buying back our time and investing in employees and team members, uh, instead of just giving us bigger paychecks. Right? Like we have, Four to six people on our team. Right. And four of 'em are full-time salaries. We could be paying ourselves a much bigger salary. Yeah. But we're choosing to invest in the business and our employees and our team and so, and get some our time back and Yeah. Which is worth everything. Yep. Um. Okay. Next question. Not a question. Okay. Next assumption. Assumption. You guys didn't wait for marriage as a couple. I'm assuming that means sex. Yes. I'm assuming Mari and I, we did wait until marriage. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, we did it. And honestly, it's the best thing ever. Like hands down. Did we struggle in chastity at times? Yes. But were we able to save sex for marriage? Yes. And that's something I'm so proud of. And three years later, it's the best thing ever. So highly recommend, um, games together. Yeah. I mean, yeah, not that like we do it all the time, we really like to play Catan with our friends and our family and we have a few like two person games. Yeah, we have some card games that we like to. I wouldn't say we're like huge board game fanatics. But we love Catan, and we like a few card games, so. Mm hmm. Okay, next, you have a very healthy marriage. I think so. I think so. We were just talking about this. Was it today? I think we were just I don't Was that today? I think we were talking about I don't even know what you're about to say, so. Okay. I think we were talking about this today, or yesterday, or something, about how like, We know we're not perfect and we know that we don't have a perfect marriage, but like, of course we're biased. We feel like we just have the best marriage ever. Like, we just like, are best friends. We love each other so much. We're like, So on the same page all the time, like we support each other. We, like we said earlier, like when we argue, like the bottom line is we just like, want to reconcile again. We like try and do everything we can, I feel like to love each other in the best way that we can genuinely. And I feel like that brings a lot of joy. And. Beauty and trust and like just like goodness to our marriage. Yeah, I agree. I think we have the best marriage So true Another one on purity during dating we kind of already answered that one also if anybody's struggling with chastity I have a really great highlight on Instagram if you look through my Instagram story highlights They're kind of a mess, but find the one that's called chastity. I have so many Pieces of advice and like practical tips on boundaries and everything. I know that that's always a tough topic Okay, this one's interesting. Y'all secretly know several languages JK JK. Love y'all's whole love story. I Don't I don't really know what this whole thing means but If we're going to focus on the languages, I mean, it's not a secret, but I do know Spanish, but and Trey and Trey's learning. I'm trying to learn. Yeah. Mari's bilingual. She's Colombian. Yeah. 100 percent Colombian born in Bogota and her whole family speaks Spanish. So when I'm like, when we're visiting them and home with them, they're all speaking Spanish. Um, so I've, I'm getting better. We'd like to raise our children bilingual. So I got to learn. So he's got to learn or else we're just going to talk about you behind your back. Yeah. Um, you do most of the cooking, but Trey can make a mean brunch. I want to know who said that. Is that one of my friends? No, it's not. Um, this is a false. We actually probably do the cooking 50 50. I would say most of the time we do the cooking 50 50. Yeah. And I, yeah. I'm such a proud wife being able to say that my husband does half the cooking and it is Just as good as when I cook and vice versa like we are at the same Cooking level like he is so amazing Oh, thank you and it's funny we talk about this all the time like It's not that we're chefs and it's not that trey's a chef Although actually trey's probably more of a chef than I am like you make stuff up more than I do but like if you Just know how to follow a recipe like you too can make delicious food. They cook. Yeah. Just follow the steps. Yeah, like Ratatouille said, anyone can cook. You just follow the recipe. So we really feel like it's not that hard. So sometimes I'm confusing people like, Oh no, I can't cook. I'm like, well, can you read? Yes, because if you can read and you know how to use a knife you can cook you can do it. So Yeah, yeah, I mean like love hate relationship with the recipes. I always use them because I need them Yeah, but I have to reread the same freaking step like six times. I know every single time I cook Yeah, I read it I go grab the teaspoon and then I go back and I'm like, teaspoon or tablespoon, teaspoon or tablespoon. Then I go grab the spice and I reread it for the third time. And then I like dip the spice into the container and then I rerouted it like a fifth time. Just be like, teaspoon, tablespoon, which spice, which bowl am I putting this in? Yeah. And it's just, it always takes me. Like I'm a slow cooker. I will say I'm a very slow cooker. It's hilarious though. It's kind of like when you're boarding a plane, you look at your boarding pass 500 times to make sure you know what seat you're on. And your brain like instantly forgets what it reads. And it's the same thing when you're cooking. It's like one tablespoon and you go and you're like, was it one teaspoon? Was it one tablespoon? And it's like, you literally just read it. So that happens to me all the time too. And I don't know why our brains do that. And it definitely makes cooking a little bit slower, but in my opinion, I feel like the recipes just let go of so much, like mental load for me. I don't like genuinely know how to like make stuff up like that. Like sure. I could make rice and broccoli and chicken, but like, that's not fun. Yeah. So we like to eat fun things. Yeah. With that, the kind of fun fact, Mari and I don't repeat recipes hardly ever. People are appalled when we tell them this. So we have a few cookbooks, but then we just find stuff online and on Instagram. And in our three and a half years of marriage, this is what I was going to say. If you want to say like in our three and a half years of marriage. We've repeated a handful of meals, maybe like five recipes, maybe five to 10. Yeah. 10 max, but like consistently repeat maybe like five meals in our three and a half years of being married. And we eat three meals a day. People. Yeah. That's a lot of meals. I would say a lot of them are like home cooked too. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let's exclude breakfast because that's like eggs and toast and you can have that a bajillion times a year, but like, Yeah. But like lunches and dinners and everything, we switch it up pretty much every week. So if you ever need a recipe rec, shoot me a DM. I got them. Yes, we do. Um, one of your best friends said something, well, they were going to say something, but then they didn't say something, which I'm kind of upset about, uh, Tyler goes, should I expose wags? And I'm still waiting for him to expose you. So, um, by the way, choice. Yeah. Yeah. Trey used to be called wax in high school. So I still, still, yeah. Okay. Um, another one, you guys would be such a fun couple to double date with. You're right. We absolutely, we absolutely would be. So let's make that happen. Um, someone says that you are super Catholic and aren't secular at all. You don't part, you don't party or have fun. Well, I am so sorry you get this, this, uh, What's it called? Assumption. No, not Assumption. Impression. I am so sorry you get this impression that I am not fun in any way. Trey, would you like to answer that, please? I think you need to show more of your fun side on the gram. I think you do. Okay. I think we need a little bit more unhinged Mari. Unhinged Mari. Unhinged Mari, I feel like doesn't happen anymore. She's so fun. She is fun. Um. Yeah, well, I mean, do you want to answer this? Um, you know me best. Where was it? They are that you're super catholic. Yes. You are very catholic. You aren't secular I would say there is definitely secularism in you for sure. Yeah. Absolutely. And I mean, like, this isn't, I mean, I'm trying to like, this isn't something that I'm like praising or condoning, you know, like, like, do I like fashion? Yes. Do I listen to secular music? Yes. Like, do I watch some secular shows? Yes. Like, we're not going to just only watch saint movies. Right. But am I careful about the shows that I watch? Like, do I watch Bridgerton? No. That's not good for you And then aren't secular and don't party slash don't have fun. I have a lot of fun. Thank you very much fun And I am commonly described as zesty full of life full of life life of the party Yes. Yeah, I think That's something that, I mean, that's what I was really attracted to when I first met you was just how fun and full of life you were. Thanks. So I would say that's definitely false. Yeah. And I mean, specifically, yes, I love to party. So let's clarify that because while in my college days, obviously I was not living a life. Well, not obviously, but I wasn't partying virtuously. Right. But once you learn how to do that virtually, AKA, like you learn that, like drink drunkenness is a sin. And you just view like partying as like social time with friends and drinking as like, in addition to that, an enhancement, not as like a crutch, you don't have to be drunk in social situations. So I love that. Being social. I love spending time with friends. Love. I love hosting a party. I love going dancing. I love going to parties and celebrations and whatever, and playing bangers on the Yes ox. I love being on ox and you just won't catch me drunk. And you might be like, wow, how is she having so much fun? you wish, man. I don't know. But you, you wish you were too. Yeah. Okay. Two more that you have perfect hashtag not hashtag that you have perfect slash nontoxic family members. Very interesting. I don't even understand what that's in like our family. Is non tox? Yeah, no, and I don't think they mean non toxic as in like ingredients. I think they mean like toxic family dynamics or toxic families, like that you have like perfect, beautiful families. Gosh, man, no. I would say like, again, like, Obviously nobody is perfect. Our families are not perfect. Our family members are not perfect and we're not perfect. And we're probably inheriting some of the things that we don't love about our parents and our siblings and all this stuff too, but we have really healthy families. That's the truth. We talk about this often. Like we feel really blessed to have parents that are still married to each other, that love each other, that have had. long, beautiful marriages that have prioritized family first, that pour everything that they have into their children and want to create a healthy, loving, supportive family environment that we grew up in and still experience today. Raised us in the faith and still practice the faith themselves. Um, our families. Like, it's so fun to be with them. Yeah. We go on family vacations. At least we try to every year with our family. Like whole family vacations, so. We live 20 minutes from my family, we see them at least once a week probably, at least some family member of mine. If not more, yeah. At least once a week. So, we love them. Yeah. We love our families, full, healthy families, not perfect, but very blessed. Yeah. And then the last one I realized we already answered. It said that you both never fight, which we already addressed. So there you have it guys, all your assumptions answered with some context and more. I hope that you got to know us a little bit better. Yeah. I hope that was fun for you guys to listen to on that. And, uh, we'll be back with Mari next week. See ya.