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You. Welcome back.

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Last time we looked at the impostor backstory and the

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obsession on fixing the individual. It's why

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I've asked you to think about impostor as a phenomenon

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rather than a syndrome. So let's move our focus

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to the spaces where the phenomenon thrives.

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My research shows that visibility, comparison

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and competition are, at the heart of impostor

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experiences for entrepreneur preneurs in online

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spaces. Yet women are getting ahead and getting

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things done. So what's going on? How should

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we navigate networks and how can we use those

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impostor experiences in helpful ways?

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In today's episode, we're going to take a look at

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imagined audiences and why the women who

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took part in my research have adapted and created

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ways of coping. We'll explore this through

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the lens of a psychological term called context

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collapse. And, this is going to be supported by some

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quotes from my research.

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I promised anonymity to my

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participants, so it's my voice you're going

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to hear. We'll be using pseudonyms that closely

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match the background and generation of the women who took

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part. And I'm going to give you a bit of context,

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because most of the women I talked to had been

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successfully running their businesses for seven years or

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more. The types of spaces they were in

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and communities they were using were paid for.

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Groups, places like doing it for

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the kids found and flourish. Real work, mama

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hive. Being freelance, they were

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also in more transient spaces, like

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a Facebook or a slack group that they would have been given

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access to when they've purchased a course or

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piece of learning.

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So these women were members of multiple

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groups. And while some of the comments

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are attributed to specific scenarios or

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spaces, the quotes I'm using today

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are from the core themes of my research and relate

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more generally to impostorous experience in all of

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these online community spaces.

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How do we find spaces online

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that work for us? How are women ending up in these

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communities? Well, the beauty of online

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spaces and social network sites is that it's

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really easy to find people like us through the

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use of language. And one of my research

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participants, Erica, made me laugh out

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loud with her example. She

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said, I don't want you to refer to me

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or anybody else in my community as honey, sweetie,

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lovely. Hey, girl. Boss. It's not who I

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am. Now. Erica had a

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really clear sense of the group she would and would not

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belong to. I like to think of this as a

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kind of social gps that guides us to

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places and spaces that match with our culture,

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behaviour, and interests.

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Erica's using comparison to answer the question, are

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they like me? This

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comparison is helpful, and it's essential,

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because running a business using online platforms like

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Instagram or Facebook is very different to the

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way we might use the spaces for day to day

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friendships. For many

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entrepreneurs, these spaces provide peer

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support and access to potential

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customers. Online communities

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also create a kind of buffer from social media,

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and women describe there being a risk of being

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canceled or piled on, and that online

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behavior feeds the fear of being found

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out. So that's what makes these communities so

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attractive, the peer support and, the

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relative safety compared to the

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vastness of social media.

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But there's one big occupational hazard

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in communities and wider social media, and

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that's cohabiting with the competition.

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It can lead to exhausting thoughts

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about imagined audiences, and it's

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here that the impostor experience

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thrives.

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If our, social gps works well,

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we end up in a space that's aligned with our

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personal values, and we will feel

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supported, but we still have to deal with the

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competition. Psychologically

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speaking, one of the reasons we have

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exhausting thoughts is context

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collapse. Effectively, context collapse

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is described by a psychologist as a

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meshing and flattening of audience that happens

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in online spaces. It's a complete

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loss of context. It's the reason your

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content. It's

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the reason your content can be viewed by your ideal customer

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or a friend of your nan in the same

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breath, depending on how

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your network is and the

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starting that bit again.

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psychologically speaking, one of the reasons we

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have exhausting thoughts is context collapse.

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Effectively, context collapse is described by

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your psychologists as a meshing and flattening of

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audiences. And this happens exclusively

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in online spaces.

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It's a complete loss of context, and it's

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the same reason that our content can be viewed by an

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ideal customer or a friend of

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Unan's. Depending on how

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big your network is and the restrictions you apply,

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the effects of context collapse could vary.

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And, what's really interesting is that in

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social media, some of the restrictions you can put

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on are you stop following people, or you

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can restrict your account. In online

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communities, what we'll discover is that

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there are fewer restrictions that we can place

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on who can see what we put into the

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communities. And there's a very different type of behavior

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that is happening

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from a networking perspective, context

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collapse is brilliant because it enables us

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to acquire something called social capital.

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Now, this can look like shared resources, favors, or

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introductions. Being online

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created new possibilities and connections for the women

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I spoke to. And I want you to think about that

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word possibility, because it's one of the ways

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in which we could characterize social capital.

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Possibility and potential lead to

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opportunities, but they're very difficult

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to pin down and quantify.

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Now, there are different ideas

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from economists and psychologists and

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sociologists about the way we can measure our return

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on investment for every connection that we

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make,

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or the number of online or offline events we could

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join as a result of putting ourselves out there in the social

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spaces. I'm really interested in finding

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a way in which we can measure the benefit of networking.

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In fact, it's one of the core themes in my current

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research. But for now,

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but for now, let's consider that online

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networking is really important for

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women. Several studies show that women

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entrepreneurs are less likely to have access to traditional

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networks as men. And, my impostor research backs

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that up, because women talked about the shift to doing

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more business online in the pandemic, and they

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described it as a leveling of the playing field.

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But notice how that

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phrase level playing field, which sounds really

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equitable, has a sporting, competitive

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nature. Love it or hate

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it, networking creates potential and

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opportunities that we otherwise would not have.

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In fact, psychologists have identified. This is

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central to our entrepreneurial identity,

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but we sit awkwardly with it, because online spaces

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weren't created to make us feel safe and

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supported. They were initially created as a way

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to connect large numbers of people with other people,

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and potentially to make money in the process.

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But back to this idea of context collapse.

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I want to introduce you to some of the phrases that came up in the

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course of my research, because they brilliantly

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describe the awkward relationship some of us have with

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the visibility that goes with networking and showing

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up online.

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The first extract is from Kayla. I want

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you to know that Kayla is hugely successful. She's a

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serial entrepreneur with a big presence in online spaces

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and communities. And Kayla says,

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there's people in my space who I respect. I have their phone

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number, I support them. I can't follow them for the

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life of me, because when I'm in that moment of the impostor

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phenomenon going whoosh, I start to think

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of them and I start to think, what would they think if they saw this?

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Or would they think if they knew this? And like, that's so not

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me. And it gets me in a space of doubt, and it

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gets me in a space where I just want to run away. And,

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yeah, my business requires me to be visible

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all. Now,

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there was a consistent narrative from the women I spoke to

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about the overwhelming feeling of

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imposter phenomenon.

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Now, there was a consistent narrative from the women I spoke to

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about the overwhelming feeling of imposter

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phenomenon. They often described it as

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a dynamic reaction experienced in key

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moments. Kayla uses the

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whoosh of impostor energy when she

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considers that imagined audience. Another

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participant, Danielle, used an energetic phrase.

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She said it's like a waterfall.

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Unsurprisingly, given the flood

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of impostor experiences, mentioned by

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those participants, there are many references

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to fight and flight behaviours. If we go back to what

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Kayla says, I just want to run away.

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Kayla's comments spoke to the broader social

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media platforms.

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So let's hear what Asima said about being in an

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online community.

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I don't feel like I have a place in, there.

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I hesitate so much to be able to speak up

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and I don't know whether it's because I'm scared that somebody might come

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along and say no, what you're saying is wrong.

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What struck me about this extract is

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that Asima is an expert in her

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field, qualified and, then sub. She

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shouldn't have to worry about telling people.

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What struck me,

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what struck me about this extract is that Asima is

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an expert in her field, qualified and then

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some. She shouldn't have to worry about people telling her that

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she's wrong. But the idea that somebody

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unknown could expose her as being a fraud was

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enough to hesitate and hold back.

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What Seema tells us is that being a member of a

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community doesn't guarantee a feeling of belonging or

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place. Despite that social

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gps navigating and helping us find people

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who are like us, the audience

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is still perceived as ambiguous.

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Participants would use words like somebody people

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them thinking of their community peers as a

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threat. We'll come

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back to the comment Asima makes. Somebody might

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come along and say, no, what you're saying is wrong. Towards the

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episode, we're going to come

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back to the comment Asima makes about people

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thinking that she might be wrong towards the end of the

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episode.

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But next up is one of my favourite

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quotes from the whole piece of research

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because it's describing a hidden impostor

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experience on two levels. I

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need to give you context here.

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Chloe and I had been discussing the

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time she took part in a group video call

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organised by a member of her community.

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One of the members was talking about an unfair customer

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complaint and what to do about it. And the way

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Chloe remembers this, the group were listening and helping

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her work through the problem. But Chloe was a

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silent participant in that process. So

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what we hear next is her held back thought

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process. Chloe told

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me. I sat there listening to the whole thing

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and everyone was like, no, you must go back. And

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she came back with a really great solution.

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But what I would have done

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would have been to say yes to the

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refund and then resented it.

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And at the end, I was like, this has been so insightful,

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because everything that you're saying is, I get it, but

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it's just not where I would have been.

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Chloe listens rather than contributes. And

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I know from speaking to members and founders of social

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spaces that participation engagement is

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something that is highly valued. It leads to

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social capital gains. The more you put yourself out there,

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the greater opportunity for connection.

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It's curious then, isn't it, to see how this

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helpful and silent comparison enables

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Chloe to benefit from advice because

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she's taken away the risk of exposing herself during the

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learning process. Chloe's engagement

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with online communities might be

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vicarious, but it still brings social

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capital gains. She still has access to other

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people, their thought processes, other

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resources. But importantly, she's learning through

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the process not just about what she should

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do, but comparing herself to the community is

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enabling her to think about how she approaches

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business. Here's that second

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level of impostor. Chloe

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also went on to tell me, I was going

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to say to, her, you do have to be careful where you

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share. Now, what I love

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about this specific quote is the way Chloe

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experiences the risk aversion that we associate

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with impostor experiences on behalf of someone

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else. Chloe's fear of exposure is

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projected silently but urgently. Although

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she wanted to say something to another member, that

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concern is held back. And the concerns that the

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participants gave for their peers during the

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research illustrates that there are different risk

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appetites amongst members in those communities.

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And I love how it shows the protectiveness group

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members feel, too. At

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the start of this episode, I said that we would

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move our focus to the spaces where the impostor

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phenomenon thrives. You've heard how

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entrepreneurs like Erica are using language as a

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way to navigate a really saturated

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environment. Her comment made me laugh because

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it resonated. I've never considered

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myself to be a girl boss, for example, but

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I know that sentiment is an example of the way

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we use language as labels and hashtags, and

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it's one way of finding and experiencing belonging

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in online spaces, especially with the

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vastness. The

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strength of our reaction to some of these phrases can tell

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us a lot about where we think we will belong and

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how comparison is useful.

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Eric is seeking out a corner of the Internet,

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or, as some of the entrepreneurs I spoke to called it,

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digital rooms where they would feel that they could

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belong. I picked out

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quotes from Kayla and Chloe to compare and

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contrast the impostor experience between social

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media and online communities, Kayla was using

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avoidance tactics as she wouldn't see the posts of other

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entrepreneurs, whereas Chloe was joining in and

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following the experiences of peers silently.

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It's worth mentioning that in online communities,

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there are fewer ways to unfollow and see what other

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members are posting. But my research

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shows that this is managed because members like

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Chloe get to sit behind the scenes and observe

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what's going on. It's another useful way in which

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comparison is showing up.

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Asima's quote is different. Again, she

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said, I'm scared that somebody might come along and say,

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no, what you're saying is wrong.

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Asima is, anticipating that imagined

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audience and, that they're going to tell her that she's

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wrong. Is this Asima's problem,

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though? Or is it a societal one?

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Instead of the old impostor advice to feel

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confident in our abilities, where is the practical

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advice on how to disagree and deal with

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objections? Where's the evidence that our online

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spaces are places where we can respectfully debate

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rather than denounce?

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Now, according to the psychologist Amy

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Edmondson, this belief that we could be

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punished or humiliated for speaking up with ideas,

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questions, concerns, or mistakes in a workplace

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is known as psychological safety.

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So it's interesting then, because for entrepreneurs,

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this belief transfers to the online space and that

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fear of getting something so wrong that we might be

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canceled and that would be really bad for

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business. It also looks like the fear

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of being exposed, which feeds those imposter

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feelings.

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You. Hopefully today's episode adds

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an extra layer onto the idea that women are not the

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problem. Comparison is long thought to

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be a negative trait of impostor syndrome,

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but it's actually a tool we can use to navigate

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spaces and consider what is going on behind the

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scenes. Communities provide

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fewer tools than social media to block or

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limit what we see our competition getting up

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to, but they play an important role in

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normalizing what really goes on behind the perfect

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Instagram grid. They reduce

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those impostor experiences.

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Coming up next on psychologically speaking,

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I'm delighted to have Christina Clark and Laura

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Stern from work culture arti along for

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a chat about all things psychological safety.

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So we're going to be having a good look at all the things that

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we can do to create spaces that eliminate that,

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impostor feeling. And.