Welcome to Close it now, an H Vac sales training podcast with Sam Wakefield.
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Speaker AThis is Sam Wakefield.
Speaker BWelcome back to Close it now, your Drive Time University H VAC sales training podcast.
Speaker BSo this is gonna be a great episode.
Speaker BWe're talking today about how to sell promote more emotionally driven purchases like accessories, system enhancements, those types of things that don't necessarily have an.
Speaker BNecessarily is a good word.
Speaker BThey don't have a necessity attached to them, they're not a requirement to the system, they're a nice to have or they're things that good examples are extended labor warranties or air quality items.
Speaker BThings that there's not necessarily a tangible associated with them.
Speaker BHow do you promote them?
Speaker BHow do we tap into the emotional connection to sell these types of products and how do we price them?
Speaker BHow does that structure work and where does it need to fall in your the way you price it along with the rest of your project.
Speaker BSo that is our topic for today.
Speaker BSo stick around, it's going to be a good one.
Speaker BAlso I want to give a big welcome.
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Speaker BCountry number 12.
Speaker BWelcome Zambia.
Speaker BObviously there's lots of heating and air conditioning that needs the people to serve in Africa that needs sold.
Speaker BSo thank you for listening.
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Speaker BI'd love to get in contact with you, find out about, learn about your market, what is it like.
Speaker BSo let's dive into our topic today.
Speaker BI've got my iced coffee here, iced coffee with a little bit of cream.
Speaker BWhat are you drinking right now?
Speaker BSo topic, how do you promote items that are less necessity.
Speaker BAnd by necessity I mean the equipment itself.
Speaker BYou've got your heating and air conditioning System.
Speaker BIt heats, it cools, it does its thing.
Speaker BAnd obviously there's lots of techniques and skills and verbiage surrounding upselling in equipment and selling the more efficient and more comfortable equipment.
Speaker BBut this is something else.
Speaker BThis is talking about your system enhancement items, your accessories.
Speaker BA great example that I mentioned is your extended labor warranty.
Speaker BAnother example would be air purifiers.
Speaker BAre you using an air scrubber?
Speaker BDo you have a REMI halo or what are you promoting?
Speaker BIs it air purifier, Is it the IQ air, is it electronic air cleaners, all these things?
Speaker BWell, first of all, it has to come from a place of asking questions.
Speaker BYou've got to ask the questions.
Speaker BAnd this is really where the deeper questions come in.
Speaker BYou know, okay, who in the home is experiencing allergy issues or asthma issues?
Speaker BAnd it's about phrasing, don't ask.
Speaker AQuestion.
Speaker BLike do you have any allergy issues or asthma issues?
Speaker BThis is one of those assumed sales.
Speaker BThe question needs to be phrased like who in the home experiences asthma issues or allergy issues or both.
Speaker BSo you're assuming somebody has, because in our society somebody usually has allergy problems.
Speaker BAnd when they say, oh, well, you know, Aunt Ethel that lives over there or my son or I do, whatever the answer is, say, oh, wow, tell me more about that.
Speaker BMm, okay.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BThat bad?
Speaker BThe answer is usually, well, that bad.
Speaker BIs it bad enough they need medication?
Speaker BYou know, ask several follow up questions, really get them talking about it.
Speaker BGet them talking about what it's like for them.
Speaker BObviously if that person is there and they're the one talking about with their own experience, that's even better.
Speaker BBut get them to talk about that.
Speaker BYou've got to uncover the emotional drivers because at this point you're not even offering.
Speaker BAgain, we don't offer solutions until we ask all the questions and we've evaluated the whole project, but we're just uncovering right now, well, we've got to uncover those emotional items and what their driver is, what's their hot button.
Speaker BSo a great example is, and I'm going to use the extended labor warranty because that's one of those items that is totally undersold maybe and definitely never sold for the right amount of money.
Speaker BItems that cost just because an accessory or a system enhancement cost you, like your material cost is maybe $300 as an example, or pounds or whatever your, you know, your currency is, just because it costs you that this is totally different margin because you've got your set margins on your equipment for your system, your condenser for your furnace, for your air handler, whatever it is, you've got your set margins for that.
Speaker BThis is a system enhancement because the beautiful part of any of these items is your day is covered with your overhead is covered by your system.
Speaker BSo all of this is where we get into blended margins.
Speaker BBecause all of the margin on your accessory, on your system enhancement falls to the bottom line once you've covered the install of it.
Speaker BYou know, obviously each thing you have to mark up, you've also got to mark up the, you know, cover your labor and all that built into that.
Speaker BBut this really boosts the margin in your bottom line because these items you can absolutely sell at a better margin.
Speaker BA good example is the labor.
Speaker BFor most systems, their hard cost is, you know, $300, $400 somewhere in that range.
Speaker BThree, three to four, 50, three to 500 somewhere in that range.
Speaker BNow I got a question yesterday.
Speaker BIf I'm applying my typical margin that I do on my accessories to this, here's what it comes up to be.
Speaker BAnd so my question back to this, this coach.
Speaker BWhat do you think you're selling when someone buys a labor warranty from you?
Speaker BAnd his answer of course is, because he's my client, is a good one.
Speaker BIt's like, well, I guess I'm selling the confidence that it's gonna get taken care of.
Speaker BI say yes.
Speaker BWhen you're selling a labor warranty, you're selling peace of mind.
Speaker BIt has nothing to do with the piece of paper, has nothing to do with the rest.
Speaker BYou're selling peace of mind.
Speaker BWhat is peace of mind worth to you?
Speaker BAn example is we sell ours for 1250.
Speaker BOur labor warranties are 1250.
Speaker BIt's what we sell them for.
Speaker BBecause the value of someone having the peace of mind to know that for a decade, if anything goes wrong with their system, it's not going to cost them another dime.
Speaker BIt's amazing.
Speaker BAnd so when you, it's all about your phrasing, interchange a 10 year labor warranty with a complete warranty for a full decade.
Speaker BDecade, it's the same amount of time, a decade and 10 years, you're saying the same thing.
Speaker BBut decade, that hits the threshold of man.
Speaker BThat's a long time.
Speaker BPsychologically, that's a long time.
Speaker BSo when you say, listen, for only 1250 or whatever it is you sell yours for, make it some fun price, make it 9.97, you know, it doesn't matter whatever you're selling it for, but have a big margin on it because again, you're selling the value you're selling peace of mind to be able to say, listen, for 1250, for an entire decade, if anything happens to this system, you don't even have to think about it.
Speaker BJust pick up the phone and call us.
Speaker BIt won't cost you another dime and we'll instantly get it taken care of.
Speaker BThat is a big value proposition.
Speaker BAnd so that's how you posture things like labor warranties.
Speaker BThat's how you posture an air purifier when you're installing a.
Speaker BYou know, upgraded all the different models out.
Speaker BWhat is that?
Speaker BWe've got Remi Halo, we've got the Air Scrubber, we've got Guardian Air, We've got all the different ones.
Speaker BI know each brand has their kind of proprietary UV lights and those kind of things, the Honeywells or whatever.
Speaker BWhen you're, when you're positioning that, when you're posturing that into your presentation, the way you present that is crucial.
Speaker BBut this is a, this is not a required part of the project.
Speaker BThis is an additional, emotionally driven purchase.
Speaker BCould they go buy, go to Walmart and buy a bunch of little air purifiers for each room at a fraction of the cost?
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BBut so I just left a house right now where we were talking about air purification, asking about the allergies, described in depth, what this thing does.
Speaker BAnd then when we're talking about it at the end, it's like, listen, with the inclusion of this air purifier, what you're going to get with that is not about the air purifier.
Speaker BIt's about your son waking up every day and not having this splitting headache.
Speaker BHe was just talking about four times a year, he's saying, he goes, he has this.
Speaker BIt's almost like he's got the flu for about a week, about once a quarter.
Speaker BWith this product, that's not going to happen, or it's going to make a huge difference with that, because this is.
Speaker BAnd here's the history of what it does, and here's our other testimonies of people who used to say the same thing, and now they say they've seen a massive improvement.
Speaker BSo that's what you're getting with this product.
Speaker BWould you like to include it in the package?
Speaker BThe answer was yes, absolutely.
Speaker BWe've got to have that if it makes that big of a difference.
Speaker BAnd of course we know it does.
Speaker BWe're not selling something that doesn't work, obviously, because we've got massive list of testimonies of people who've experienced some pretty serious changes.
Speaker BAnd Improvement with the inclusion of a product like that.
Speaker BBut that's what that conversation needs to sound like.
Speaker BYou're not saying, okay, here's an air purifier.
Speaker BDo you want it?
Speaker BWell, no.
Speaker BThe answer is no.
Speaker BIt's how much?
Speaker BA thousand dollars?
Speaker BTwelve hundred dollars?
Speaker BNo way I'm going to include that.
Speaker BBut when you position has nothing to do with the air purifier, it has do with the labor warranty.
Speaker BIt has everything to do with when you don't have to wake up with that bloody nose because the allergies hurt so bad in your head.
Speaker BIsn't that going to be worth it when you're positioning the labor warranty like, listen, say you're talking to a couple who's maybe one of the partners, travels, does international travel, and there's maybe a wife and kids at home, and you're positioning a labor warranty to say, listen, I know that you do a lot of traveling.
Speaker BYou're not always here, so you don't.
Speaker BWith this labor warranty, you have the peace of mind of knowing that if anything happens over the next decade, you could be halfway around the world.
Speaker BYour wife doesn't have to go through the process of calling three companies and taking bids on things and dealing with all of these strange people in your home.
Speaker BWhen you're not here and it's just her and the kids here, you've got the peace of mind of knowing that for a decade she can pick up the phone and call us.
Speaker BIt doesn't matter what it is.
Speaker BIt's not going to cost you any more money and it'll be taken care of immediately.
Speaker BDo you want to add this to your system package?
Speaker BAnd when you, when you position things like that, your system enhancement sales, your accessory sales, goes dramatically higher.
Speaker BAnd it's not that we're, we're not faking anything.
Speaker BWe're just expressing the value of what we're offering, provides.
Speaker BBut more importantly, we're not only expressing the value, we're expressing it in terms of benefits.
Speaker BWhat are they truly going to get out of this accessory?
Speaker BIt's not the fact that they've got a light that glows in their, you know, in their plenum now or in their, in their evaporator coil.
Speaker BWhat they have at this point is better air.
Speaker BThey get to breathe, breathe easier.
Speaker BThey get the peace of mind, whatever it is you're offering.
Speaker BThere are dramatic value propositions that completely relate to what this is.
Speaker BSo if you don't know how to formulate that, shoot me a message.
Speaker BI Can help you brainstorm it, but also read the material, read the company's marketing material.
Speaker BThey've given you the words to say usually in the brochures and stuff.
Speaker BSo totally read it.
Speaker BFind out what in the world that they say and if their marketing material is super feature heavy and not benefits, let me know.
Speaker BLet's brainstorm it.
Speaker BBecause just about, well, not just about every single thing that you can offer.
Speaker BYou can, there's benefits to it or it wouldn't be an item that's on the market.
Speaker BSomebody benefits from whatever product or service it is or it wouldn't stay on the market.
Speaker BSo that is how to posture those types of things.
Speaker BThat's how to position things that are emotionally driven cells that are emotionally driven.
Speaker BBecause remember that logic is the steering wheel.
Speaker BIt's going to point the wheels in the right direction but without the emotion behind it.
Speaker BThe emotion is the gas pedal.
Speaker BThe emotion is what people will step on the gas to actually take action and take action now in the right direction.
Speaker BSo they'll take action now in the right direction to make those decisions.
Speaker BSo that's the nuts and bolts of it.
Speaker BThat's how to take any item, tie it to an emotional connector by talking about benefits and then through that, relate it to the benefits the people are going to need to get them to take action on it and to get them to take action on it.
Speaker BNow it's just such a fun.
Speaker BWhen you start understanding this, it doesn't matter what it could be the system, it could be whatever it is.
Speaker BBut when you uncover their start with the questions and uncover their needs and their wants.
Speaker BAnd it doesn't mean sell something that people don't need and people don't want.
Speaker BNo, that's not what we're saying.
Speaker BWhen you uncover a problem they have and know that one of these items will solve that problem, you talk to them about it in terms of benefits and that's how to get that driver and that emotional connection.
Speaker BSo that is our episode for today.
Speaker BI'm rolling my coaching.
Speaker BI've got group coaching, I've got private coaching.
Speaker BGo to CloseItNow.net you can find out more about those that should be up really, really soon on the website.
Speaker BSo what we're going to do, if you're interested in that, we will do a.
Speaker BWe'll jump on the phone or on a video call depending on you're at and we can spend about an hour together and really deep dive and find out if it would be a good fit for you.
Speaker BFind out which one might be the better fit for you and what it's going to take to achieve your goals.
Speaker BWe're going to talk about what your goals are, because if you don't have goals in mind, anywhere you go, you're going to hit them, right?
Speaker BIt's like in the Alice in Wonderland.
Speaker BWhich way should I go?
Speaker BWell, does it matter if you don't know where you're going?
Speaker BAny road will get you there.
Speaker BAnd so we're going to set some goals for you.
Speaker BAnd yeah, we're really deep diving and see if we can provide some value for you.
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Speaker BIt's such a beautiful way to approach life is to serve others.
Speaker BSo anyway, that is the podcast for today.
Speaker BWelcome Zambia and I will talk to everyone again soon.
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