1 00:00:10,490 --> 00:00:15,260 Hey there, and welcome back to another episode of Sam's Sidebar, where I tackle your 2 00:00:15,260 --> 00:00:20,910 essential questions about starting and growing a legally protected online business in ten 3 00:00:20,910 --> 00:00:21,980 minutes or less. 4 00:00:22,010 --> 00:00:26,060 This week, you'll get legal tips all about scope of practice. So, 5 00:00:26,060 --> 00:00:28,400 let's jump right in to Sarah's question. 6 00:00:28,490 --> 00:00:31,490 I want to preface this by saying, do not check out on me. 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:36,920 Do not check out on me if you are not in the health and wellness field, because this is 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,470 going to apply to you no matter what kind of coach you are. 9 00:00:39,470 --> 00:00:40,850 But just hear me out. 10 00:00:41,210 --> 00:00:47,000 So, Sarah asks, "Can I give macro goals as a nutrition coach if my certification and 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,260 education covers how to do that?" Oh, goodness. 12 00:00:51,260 --> 00:00:52,580 I love this question, Sarah. 13 00:00:52,580 --> 00:00:58,340 I am so, so glad that you asked because this is such an important question to get into in 14 00:00:58,340 --> 00:01:03,060 terms of whether if you learn something, can you teach it. 15 00:01:03,060 --> 00:01:05,390 So, like I said, do not check out on this. 16 00:01:05,390 --> 00:01:09,260 If you are not a health and wellness coach, this applies to you, too, and it also applies 17 00:01:09,260 --> 00:01:11,780 to you if you are a health and wellness coach. So, 18 00:01:11,780 --> 00:01:15,830 scope of practice, which is what you can legally do, say, and teach based on how your 19 00:01:15,830 --> 00:01:18,660 license, qualified or trained, all that stuff. 20 00:01:18,660 --> 00:01:23,480 Scope of practice, it applies to all kinds of coaches regardless of our industry. 21 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:30,080 So, every type of coach or every type of practitioner has a licensed or professional body 22 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:35,780 that's like "above it" that dictates what it can and can't do. Like, 23 00:01:35,780 --> 00:01:39,560 a money coach has a CPA and accountant above it. 24 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,920 A dating coach has a therapist and maybe a doctor above it. 25 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,340 So, there are these other kinds of professional bodies. 26 00:01:46,340 --> 00:01:49,190 And I'm not saying this in a qualitative sense. 27 00:01:49,190 --> 00:01:53,210 I'm just saying, generally speaking, these are kind of what I call hovering professions 28 00:01:53,210 --> 00:01:58,820 . So, the reason I actually chose Sarah's question for this week is because of a kind of 29 00:01:58,820 --> 00:02:03,890 dangerous and misleading trend that I see in our online business industry. 30 00:02:04,370 --> 00:02:09,470 I see a lot of times how people mention that they're under the impression that they can 31 00:02:09,470 --> 00:02:16,010 do X, Y, or Z, usually some kind of higher level scope or area of advice that they can 32 00:02:16,010 --> 00:02:21,080 give because it was something that they learned about in their online program or in some 33 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,510 sort of certification program. So, 34 00:02:23,510 --> 00:02:27,800 here's what you really, really need to know about this. 35 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:34,860 Coaching programs or courses run by private individuals that you take to uplevel a skill 36 00:02:34,860 --> 00:02:40,080 or learn something in your industry, or a program that you take through a certification 37 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,610 body, like a health coaching program that gives you a certificate at the end or a money 38 00:02:44,610 --> 00:02:49,440 coaching program that gives you a certificate at the end, they are not able to expand 39 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:50,970 your scope of practice. 40 00:02:51,510 --> 00:02:56,370 In other words, taking a course or a certification program that's run by a private company 41 00:02:56,370 --> 00:03:01,020 or an individual does not give you any additional right to talk about things that are 42 00:03:01,020 --> 00:03:03,760 outside of your scope of practice. 43 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:10,560 Courses and programs, any of those kinds of things that you're taking to become like a 44 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:17,700 such and such coach, none of them are scope expanders. Our 45 00:03:17,700 --> 00:03:22,830 scope of practice is simply dictated by our state governments and our laws and our 46 00:03:22,830 --> 00:03:25,770 regulations that every single state has on the books. 47 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:32,280 So, if your state, for example, says that only RDs or licensed nutritionist or doctor 48 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:37,890 could give medical advice on nutrition - like macros, for example, in this question - 49 00:03:37,890 --> 00:03:44,700 then a private program that you signed up for would not be able to make it legal for you 50 00:03:44,700 --> 00:03:46,770 to teach about macros. 51 00:03:46,770 --> 00:03:52,350 So, your state is still going to dictate that you can't do that. Like 52 00:03:52,350 --> 00:03:55,020 in this example, let's just say your state says you cannot do that. 53 00:03:55,140 --> 00:03:59,970 There's no certification program or anything that you could take, like online or any of 54 00:03:59,970 --> 00:04:02,070 that kind of stuff, that would undo that. 55 00:04:02,070 --> 00:04:06,750 The only thing that would undo it would be, let's say, your state says only RDs could 56 00:04:06,750 --> 00:04:10,470 teach about nutrition or a doctor can teach about nutrition, then you'd have to go become 57 00:04:10,470 --> 00:04:11,490 an RD or a doctor. 58 00:04:11,490 --> 00:04:14,400 That's the only way. So, 59 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,740 it always upsets me because I see people spending so much time and spending a lot of hard 60 00:04:19,740 --> 00:04:24,420 work and a lot of hard earned money and everything else on all of these programs being 61 00:04:24,420 --> 00:04:29,130 like I took this program because it teaches me in the program about macros or it teaches 62 00:04:29,130 --> 00:04:32,790 me in the program about meal plans or it teaches me in the program about stocks and 63 00:04:32,790 --> 00:04:34,020 financial planning. 64 00:04:34,020 --> 00:04:38,670 So, as long as I learn that there, then I can turn around and teach that to other people. 65 00:04:38,910 --> 00:04:45,000 So, learning about something does not make it legal for us to teach it to others. And 66 00:04:45,150 --> 00:04:49,860 if you listen to Episode 68 of the podcast, you'll know that we also don't need to teach 67 00:04:49,860 --> 00:04:52,830 everything that we learn to be successful. 68 00:04:52,830 --> 00:04:57,210 Because there are a lot of reasons for us to keep learning and there are a lot of reasons 69 00:04:57,210 --> 00:04:58,410 for you to take those courses. 70 00:04:58,410 --> 00:05:00,120 Like, if you just want to learn about macros, great. 71 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,830 If you want to learn about stocks, that's great. 72 00:05:01,830 --> 00:05:06,000 It just doesn't make it legal for us to turn around and start teaching it to other people 73 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,250 in the eyes of the law. And 74 00:05:08,250 --> 00:05:10,380 I know what you might be thinking, too, "Well, wait. 75 00:05:10,380 --> 00:05:15,210 This program that I took, it told me that we'll teach you about macros so you can teach 76 00:05:15,210 --> 00:05:20,370 other people." Unfortunately, there is a lot of deceptive marketing out there. 77 00:05:20,490 --> 00:05:24,270 And just because a program says it doesn't mean it's legal. 78 00:05:24,270 --> 00:05:27,990 So, you have to do your own due diligence and you have to see what's actually legal for 79 00:05:27,990 --> 00:05:31,590 you, what's true for you based on you, where you live, how you're qualified, all of that 80 00:05:31,590 --> 00:05:33,390 kind of stuff. So, 81 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:36,150 I'm only telling you all of this for two reasons. 82 00:05:36,150 --> 00:05:39,360 One is so that you actually know what's in your scope of practice so you can stay out of 83 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:40,380 legal trouble. 84 00:05:40,380 --> 00:05:41,610 That's the goal. 85 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,050 And two is so that you have this information available to you before you sign up for 86 00:05:46,050 --> 00:05:49,080 another coaching program or some sort of certification. 87 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,630 I want you to go into it thinking like, "Oh. 88 00:05:51,630 --> 00:05:53,790 I want to have more skills. 89 00:05:53,810 --> 00:06:00,330 I want to learn about something." I want you to know that those programs won't make it possible for you to do things that 90 00:06:00,330 --> 00:06:01,710 are still outside your scope. 91 00:06:01,710 --> 00:06:06,330 But hear me loud and clear, learning new skills like upleveling, learning about something 92 00:06:06,330 --> 00:06:09,900 new, just even learning about something new for fun is still so valuable. 93 00:06:09,900 --> 00:06:11,910 I'm not devaluing any of those things. 94 00:06:11,910 --> 00:06:15,360 It's more just making sure you know what you're getting and why, what you're going to be 95 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,500 able to do with it. 96 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,170 It helps you to be a better coach and a practitioner. 97 00:06:19,170 --> 00:06:21,960 It can make you more marketable on the job market. Like, 98 00:06:22,140 --> 00:06:25,860 if you were taking that course or program and then trying to work for a private company, 99 00:06:25,860 --> 00:06:29,670 they would probably be really happy, so that would be cool. 100 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:35,070 It just doesn't expand your scope of practice within your own online business. So, 101 00:06:35,070 --> 00:06:39,960 the long and short of it is, Sarah, who submitted this question, that if prescribing 102 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,760 macros, for example, isn't within your scope, which is likely not as a nutrition coach, 103 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,810 then, no, you can't do it even if you learned in your program. 104 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,330 So, to learn more about scope of practice - if this your first time hearing me talk about 105 00:06:54,330 --> 00:06:57,840 it, this is actually my fourth episode on scope of practice - I definitely would 106 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:02,910 recommend going back and listening to Episodes 2, which is about scope of practice for 107 00:07:02,910 --> 00:07:10,620 coaches; Episode 69, What Coaches Can Legally Do, Part 2; and then we also have Episode 108 00:07:10,620 --> 00:07:13,230 86 on what coaches can do legally. 109 00:07:13,230 --> 00:07:18,030 So, I have lots of different scope of practice episodes for you there. 110 00:07:18,030 --> 00:07:24,210 So, that's Episodes 2, 69, 86 and then, now, this is number 94, so you have lots of scope 111 00:07:24,210 --> 00:07:26,670 of practice resources around here. I 112 00:07:26,670 --> 00:07:27,930 hope this has been helpful for you. 113 00:07:28,090 --> 00:07:32,740 If you have a question you want to submit to a future Sam's Sidebar episode, make sure 114 00:07:32,740 --> 00:07:35,020 you click the link below to submit your legal question. 115 00:07:35,050 --> 00:07:37,720 I would love to read it on a future episode. 116 00:07:37,750 --> 00:07:39,370 Thank you so much for joining me here. 117 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,760 Send me a DM on Instagram, @samvanderwielen, and let me know if this episode was helpful 118 00:07:44,770 --> 00:07:48,910 . 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