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Justin Yo, today 10 minutes of tennis. Justin is our world-renowned tennis coach,

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Australian in Puerto Rico. And right now, he's not in Puerto Rico, looks like he's in a car.

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But today, we're going to talk about the serve.

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And you say you've got some easy tricks.

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Or is it tricks for an easy serve?

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Or is it easy tricks for a better serve?

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What are the tricks easy?

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Or is this something that's going to make my serve easy?

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Where are we going with this, Justin?

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Wow, that's, yeah, you said it.

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It's a lot of questions for 10 minutes of swear on the serve.

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But the serve, probably the easiest trick in the world is,

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I've had, I've probably had two things that have really

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based my career on teaching serves.

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And that is just teaching people how to throw.

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Learning how to use the palm down.

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Learning how to use the two fingers on the ball,

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because that tends to be where you snap on the racket.

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Learning how to use left and right arm together as a combination.

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Learning how to rotate your hips, because you're driving your serve as your back hip.

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It's not necessary, you shoulder.

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Yeah, and then teaching a female how to serve like a female in a male,

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serve like a male, that's another whole 10 minutes of tennis on a tone.

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Deal, I already have that.

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Yeah, well, people don't understand this, and this is where it goes wrong even on the tool level.

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If you try to teach a female to serve like a male, it just can't happen for the reason that

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a male uses his torso and rotates a lot from there.

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A female tends to use her legs more because she's about two-third legs.

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And so she drives a lot from her legs, the men drive a lot from their torso.

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And so you have to teach to serve differently for that reason.

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That's why we see a lot of females with a more modified style looking serve.

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And you see the guys with a bigger, bigger wind up.

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Females has been proven over the last, I don't know, at least 20 years,

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that majority of their issues, they usually tear abdominals or shoulder joint because they are

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serving like a male and winding up too far and not using enough legs.

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So there's a lot of factors that need to go right when teaching a serve

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for male and female, but I would say the biggest thing of all is teaching them how to throw.

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The amount of people even male and female.

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So as a trick, and I'm going to say, all right, I'm going to ask for one to three tricks and say,

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okay, there's one trick. Throwing gets me that snapping thing. Is it the elbow back?

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What about the throw? And that maybe again, is it's only, it's only 10 minutes or 10 minutes.

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But the throw, all the things, the components with that, it's the snap of the wrist,

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but it's also the elbow back versus the elbow forward like the baby throw.

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Right. Usually easiest way is to teach slight rotation.

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Because when you rotate, you generate from the hip so you're already learning that,

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you're already learning the internal muscles of internal rotation around the core.

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But what that does is it tends to break away from the elbow leading this way, because as you turn,

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you start to generate a decent throw. But it is amazing how many people that struggle to throw,

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that obviously then struggle to serve. So I've taught a lot of, especially females,

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how to serve correctly just by teaching them how to throw. And utilize the left and the right.

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A lot of people struggle to use both together. It's a coordination thing that they, you know.

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Obviously junior development, every kid should be learning how to throw, even the little girls,

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especially throwing is, you learn weight transfer, you learn angular rotation of the upper body,

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you learn linear movement between the legs, you learn rhythm around the whole body,

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you're learning all the mechanics coming together to generate the pace on the ball. So there's a lot of

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factors that happen from the age of young, from learning how to throw and palm down. I mean, palm

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down is the absolute. If I was going to say if there's nothing that's a trick, but a fundamental that

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has to happen is palm down. Okay. Tell me about palm down. Well palm down, you're using, when you go to

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throw, you're using your mechanics correctly, you're using your pack, use your shoulder, and then

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everything joins forces to let go. If you don't have palm down, the first thing you're going to do is

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lose the pack, and you use your shoulder joint incorrectly, you also can't use the shoulder,

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tend to be external rotation because you're already, you're already up. See? So palm down allows the

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external rotation of the shoulder as well, which is where you generate a lot as well. So there's a lot of

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factor. The leader tree thing with everybody can be perfect. Yeah, yeah, the bartender serve. Yep,

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you get rid of that. But the palm down is definitely probably the number one thing that you want to

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make sure every, every child or every person is learning to throw. They have to learn from here and

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learn what it feels like to get all the mechanics to go together. And that's probably the biggest trick.

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You know, obviously then when you're teaching to throw, you want to throw towards the sky versus

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throw down towards the net because they're in a tennis serve. You're going this way. You're not going down.

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But overall, once they learn how to throw and probably another one is the chicken wings. If they

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learn how to get the chicken wings going, they tend to learn how to get the elbow there and get the

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other arm going at the same time. So that's an easy way to get both arms going as well.

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Well, in the chicken wing, you have to use as a good thing on the serve because we always say that's

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a bad thing on the forehand, right? Yeah, well, it's not that bad on the forehand though because

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on the forehand, it all depends on the wind up. You know, if you haven't got time, then you don't

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want to have that big chicken wing. But you've got time. Yes, it's been a very effective way of

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wind up on the forehand. But yes, on the serve, the chicken wing is hard to express in the car, but

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the whole concept is to get both arms going at the same time so that you get into a position where

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one elbow is one way and then the other chicken wings there, but really it's an extension doing a full length.

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Okay, so what we have to do one on court with this is a follow up. It makes me think there you go.

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There you go. You've said also that you've taught some former volleyball players and some former

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baseball players. I think that's a nice incoming client, so to speak. Like if you've done some

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previous sporting, maybe quarter back obviously, but if you've done some previous sporting and you've

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done some catch and throw, you're serve. I've seen this in my career as well. You see that one adult

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that just has the serve that seems to work better than the rest of them. You can always ask and

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every single time they've played some sort of sport where they were throwing as a kid.

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Yeah, well, we haven't got enough time for that one because that's we can do a quick intro, but that's

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what I call mind mapping and we've talked about this before. We're basically the person already has

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a short throwing action, which means really you should be designing a short serve versus a long

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serve. I learned very quickly in a I met a baseball recruiter going from US to Australia on the

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plane one time and that was over 20 years ago and he was explaining to me that he recruited people by

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the way they threw for the position on the field and what that made me realize is if you look at someone's

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throw, see what's already mechanically automatic for them and then you build the serve around that.

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That is a lot smarter way of doing things than trying to build everybody with the same serve.

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It just doesn't work. It does naturally, exactly. Correct. Correct. And so I have a volleyball player

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right now. She was a very high level volleyball player just started learning tennis and we built her

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server in a volleyball serve and she crushes it. As you say, let me guess her serve is the best thing

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about her game. It is definitely her best thing about a game. It's our word and she just and we don't

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have to work on it because she just I built it around her volleyball serve. We just released the ball.

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Her elbow is too high, but it's where she's used to being. It's where she's easy to just let go and serve.

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And it's effective. She can place it anywhere she wants and that's all she needs on a serve.

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So, and the greatest thing about the volleyball service, she doesn't like overfollow through at the

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end and not being prepared for the next ball. So it's really to her advantage to just use what she

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knows that she's done a million times and that makes it really effective serve. I love it. So my my tricks,

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I've got calm down. Yep, and that is part of the throw or do I also need to just go play catch with

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my kids and that's going to help my serve anything else for 100% playing catches the best thing you

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could do and it's giving you time when you kid at the same time playing catch and family time. That's

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fantastic. Absolutely, but throwing throwing is the biggest trick with palm down if it was you know

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without going into all the other thousands of things that we can do. Yep, and it really does help.

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Obviously serving towards a target too is a good trick because it teaches them to let go towards

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something because that's eventually what's going to control the racket face. So there's another trick.

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I like it. A bonus trick. Justin, yo Australian in Tampa, usually in Puerto Rico. I appreciate it.

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Thanks, mate. We'll talk soon. Well, there you have it. We want to thank Rejovenate.com for

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