1 00:00:02,340 --> 00:00:05,880 Ian Altman: Ian, welcome to the same side selling podcast. I am 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:13,620 your host. Ian Altman, one of the most common questions I get 3 00:00:13,620 --> 00:00:17,040 has to do with sales presentations. And people ask 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,380 me, What should I include when I go to meet with a prospect, what 5 00:00:21,380 --> 00:00:24,320 should be my PowerPoint presentation? That's what we're 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,940 going to talk about on today's episode. You're all set, you're 7 00:00:28,940 --> 00:00:31,520 ready to go to your meeting. You show up, and you have your 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,880 PowerPoint presentation. Maybe you're really advanced using 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,660 Keynote. Maybe instead of keynote, you're using some other 10 00:00:38,660 --> 00:00:43,480 AI driven tool, using beautiful.ai using pick it. It 11 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:46,480 doesn't matter what tool you're using, but nonetheless, you walk 12 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:50,500 into the meeting and you're ready to give the presentation 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,360 of your life. Here's the problem, your customer isn't 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:00,220 thinking, Oh, wow, I'm about to see the best presentation ever. 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,600 Your customer, on the other hand, is thinking, Oh, great, 16 00:01:04,020 --> 00:01:08,940 there's an HDMI cable, there's a projector or a screen in our 17 00:01:08,940 --> 00:01:14,160 room. And this person's about to speak, I'm going to catch up on 18 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,120 some much needed sleep right now, because it's nap time, I 19 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,600 can get a good rest right now, and this is going to be 20 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,080 fantastic. In fact, this is probably the best rest I'm going 21 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,320 to get all week. I hope my Fitbit is dialed in with this, 22 00:01:27,500 --> 00:01:30,440 and I'm hoping the presentation goes at least three hours, so I 23 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,640 get a good score on my Fitbit. It counts. It counts towards my 24 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:39,560 sleep. Big mistake. So part of our challenge is that we walk 25 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,840 into a meeting and we've set no expectations in advance. So the 26 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,540 client is thinking, Oh, you're going to give us a presentation. 27 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,540 The problem is, when we leave that meeting, the client doesn't 28 00:01:49,540 --> 00:01:53,140 think, wow, they really understood us. The client 29 00:01:53,140 --> 00:01:57,220 instead is thinking, wow, they covered a lot of stuff in that 30 00:01:57,220 --> 00:02:00,240 meeting. And I don't know whether or not they can help us, 31 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,440 but they certainly spend a lot of time on their slides. Because 32 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,800 what's in a typical presentation where a typical company's 33 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,660 presentation includes five or six slides about your company, 34 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,320 it may even include a picture of the building that you work in, 35 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,860 like anybody cares. Maybe if you had animation of the building 36 00:02:21,860 --> 00:02:24,980 being constructed, it might be interesting, but otherwise, 37 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,500 there's really no reason to talk about your building. Then 38 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,500 there'll be a bunch of slides that talk about your products 39 00:02:30,500 --> 00:02:32,960 and services. We have this product. We have that product. 40 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,420 Maybe there's something that talks about how many employees 41 00:02:35,420 --> 00:02:39,020 you have. You may as well talk about how many memory cards you 42 00:02:39,020 --> 00:02:42,460 have, or how many spare HDMI cables you have around the 43 00:02:42,460 --> 00:02:46,420 office, or what kind of mouse you use. It's all irrelevant to 44 00:02:46,420 --> 00:02:50,140 the client. They don't really care about any of that stuff. So 45 00:02:50,140 --> 00:02:52,420 you've got that presentation, and then maybe you have a case 46 00:02:52,420 --> 00:02:55,060 study or two. And a case study usually says, here's this 47 00:02:55,060 --> 00:02:59,680 client, and here's why we were so brilliant in helping them. So 48 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,100 I've now given a presentation that talks about me and my 49 00:03:02,100 --> 00:03:05,520 company, maybe talks about our buildings and number of people 50 00:03:05,640 --> 00:03:08,460 and how many widgets we have somewhere. Then we talk about 51 00:03:08,460 --> 00:03:11,280 the different products that we have, and then we give some case 52 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,700 study examples. At that point, our client has probably slipped 53 00:03:14,700 --> 00:03:18,540 into a coma, and maybe the hope is we convince them to buy some 54 00:03:18,540 --> 00:03:23,360 of our stuff. What should we do instead? If you want to get top 55 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,660 results for your team, take a look at these same side selling 56 00:03:26,660 --> 00:03:30,680 Academy. Just visit same sideselling.com to learn more. 57 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,560 Well, instead of taking this approach of talking about 58 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,960 yourself, first thing you want to do is you want to set an 59 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,480 expectation about the meeting that says, hey, we're going to 60 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,200 be out there next Tuesday from nine to 10. I don't yet know 61 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,900 that we can help you. I'm going to spend at least the first half 62 00:03:43,900 --> 00:03:47,020 of the meeting asking questions, to learn about your situation, 63 00:03:47,020 --> 00:03:50,020 to see if we can even help. How does that sound? Oh, it sounds 64 00:03:50,020 --> 00:03:52,600 great. Okay, by the end of the meeting, you and I will either 65 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,240 conclude we don't have a fit looks like we might. We'll add 66 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,880 our next steps together. How's that sound? That sounds great. 67 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,660 So now I've just set an expectation that says I'm not 68 00:04:00,660 --> 00:04:03,780 coming to give a presentation, I'm coming to learn about them. 69 00:04:04,260 --> 00:04:07,260 It allows us to navigate through the same side quadrants that we 70 00:04:07,260 --> 00:04:10,140 teach in same side selling. It's in chapter four. It's on page 71 00:04:10,140 --> 00:04:15,840 76, of the actual paperback and hardback of the book. And it 72 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,240 talks about us getting information about the client, 73 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,480 about what they're trying to solve, why they need to solve 74 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,960 it. How important is to solve that, what results or success 75 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,240 looks like, and who else needs to be involved. That way, we 76 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,300 have all the information they need to build a business case to 77 00:04:29,300 --> 00:04:32,900 make an informed decision. If you want to have a PowerPoint, 78 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,960 what you can do is you can do what I call the Jeopardy board. 79 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,840 So the Jeopardy board is similar to the board game. Jeopardy. 80 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:42,160 People get to pick a tile. You can create a grid on the page 81 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,460 with different topics, and then when the client brings up a 82 00:04:45,460 --> 00:04:48,280 topic, what you can say to them is you can have the screen blank 83 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:51,220 the whole time and say, look, I've got some slides. If you 84 00:04:51,220 --> 00:04:53,860 mention a topic that I have something relevant to share with 85 00:04:53,860 --> 00:04:56,380 you, I'll turn the screen on. I'll show you that, and then 86 00:04:56,380 --> 00:04:58,540 we'll go back to our conversation. Has that sound 87 00:04:58,780 --> 00:05:02,100 great in that. Example, what you want to do is then be able to 88 00:05:02,100 --> 00:05:04,560 say to them, so here's someone else who was having a similar 89 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,680 problem. Here's what that problem was costing them, here's 90 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,980 why it was important for them to solve it. Here's what they were 91 00:05:10,980 --> 00:05:13,920 looking for in terms of an outcome. Fortunately, we were 92 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,040 able to help them. And here's the outcome that they had. They 93 00:05:17,220 --> 00:05:20,960 ended up with this great outcome that's really almost utopian. 94 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,420 How similar or different Do you think that would be to your 95 00:05:23,420 --> 00:05:26,900 situation? Now I turn off the screen, and now I'm back to a 96 00:05:26,900 --> 00:05:30,380 conversation. And in PowerPoint, you could just hit the letter B 97 00:05:30,380 --> 00:05:33,560 and it'll blank the screen, and they'll just get a black screen. 98 00:05:33,980 --> 00:05:37,640 And once that happens, the customer says, oh, now I'm back 99 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,780 to this conversation, if I leave the PowerPoint up. The whole 100 00:05:40,780 --> 00:05:44,020 time. We've been taught since we were in kindergarten that it's 101 00:05:44,020 --> 00:05:48,400 nap time, and now I can catch some z's. Remember when you're 102 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,700 going out to speak with people, it's not about you, it's about 103 00:05:51,700 --> 00:05:54,760 them. You can either show up as someone who is there to sell 104 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,120 something, or someone who is there to solve something. We 105 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,360 want to make sure we're showing up as someone who is there to 106 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,320 solve, not sell. If you look, sound and act like a 107 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,900 stereotypical salesperson, you're likely to get the 108 00:06:06,900 --> 00:06:10,080 response, no thanks just looking. If instead, I show up 109 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,260 as someone who's there to solve. If I navigate the conversation 110 00:06:13,260 --> 00:06:15,360 so that we're having a discussion about what the 111 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,060 client's trying to solve and how we might be able to help them, 112 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,980 that's how we shorten sales cycles. Shift the focus from 113 00:06:21,980 --> 00:06:25,940 price to results and achieve better outcomes across the 114 00:06:25,940 --> 00:06:28,640 board, there are topics you'd like me to address. Just drop me 115 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,540 a note to Ian at Ian altman.com and I will see you next time on 116 00:06:32,540 --> 00:06:34,760 the same side, selling podcast. So long you