>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): Welcome to Wisps of the Past. I'm your host,
Speaker:Fitovit, and in this episode, I
Speaker:invite you behind the scenes of season
Speaker:one. This series began as
Speaker:a whisper in my own heart, a calling
Speaker:to trace stories hidden in plain sight across
Speaker:interstacias, a place I hold dear in
Speaker:my heart due to my own ties with this beautiful
Speaker:island. My desire was to tell history
Speaker:not only through documents and dates, but through the
Speaker:lives of women. Why women, you may ask?
Speaker:Because growing up and still, if
Speaker:we look at history, it's almost
Speaker:always men that are being highlighted, and
Speaker:women are just simply left outside of the
Speaker:narrative. But it was the women who
Speaker:held families together, who led in
Speaker:silence, grieved in private,
Speaker:and carved their wisdom into the land.
Speaker:Throughout this season, we explore the
Speaker:legacy of a major focal society
Speaker:on this island, where strength
Speaker:is quiet and resilience often
Speaker:worn like a second skin. We
Speaker:examined folklore and theory
Speaker:and followed the devastating echoes left by
Speaker:enslavement, migration, and
Speaker:silence. And in
Speaker:doing so, we made space.
Speaker:Space for what was too often left out
Speaker:of the narrative. The stories of
Speaker:enslaved women.
Speaker:Women whose voices were erased. Erased
Speaker:from the archives, overwritten by Eurocentric
Speaker:records that measured value in land,
Speaker:names and power, but not in
Speaker:care, kinship, or survival.
Speaker:This podcast has been a way to bring those voices to
Speaker:light and to shift the lens,
Speaker:to say, hey, we are here. We
Speaker:mattered, and we still do. So in this special
Speaker:episode, I'm going to share with you how this
Speaker:season came to be the inspiration behind
Speaker:it. Some unexpected turns,
Speaker:and where the whispers might carry us next.
Speaker:This podcast didn't just begin in the
Speaker:studio. It began with a feeling, a
Speaker:longing, a whisper.
Speaker:The reason why I began Whispers of the Past
Speaker:is threefold. It's rooted in
Speaker:memory, mentorship, and a
Speaker:quiet fire that turned into action.
Speaker:So the first reason is the island,
Speaker:Stacia. I grew up between two
Speaker:worlds. The greyness of the Netherlands and
Speaker:the sun soaked soul of Stacia.
Speaker:Every summer and some winters, we came back
Speaker:here. And every time we returned back to the Netherlands,
Speaker:my parents would say, she got the Stacia blues
Speaker:because I did. Because something would stay
Speaker:behind among the volcanic black
Speaker:sand, the crystal blue ocean, and the
Speaker:familiar laughter of people who raised me with kindness and
Speaker:stories. For me, the island softened
Speaker:the edges of the world. And it was
Speaker:this place that has shaped my becoming.
Speaker:The second reason is my godmom,
Speaker:Mrs. Suta Cow.
Speaker:How did you feel when I said I wanted to do this
Speaker:and that you were a big inspiration for me?
Speaker:>> Ms. Sutekau: I was very proud of you for that I
Speaker:also had my reservations,
Speaker:because finding out the history of
Speaker:the women is very difficult.
Speaker:This is the same thing as finding out
Speaker:the history of a country.
Speaker:History is written by the conqueror
Speaker:and the powerful. It is not
Speaker:written by the conqueror and the
Speaker:less powerful. And, uh, in history,
Speaker:women have always been
Speaker:considered less powerful.
Speaker:They aren't, but they
Speaker:had to wield their power in a
Speaker:gentle way. At
Speaker:the same time, they were
Speaker:not recognized for the
Speaker:powers they really were.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): My godmom took me to archaeological digs when I
Speaker:was just a kid, and she told me to
Speaker:look down through the soil of memory,
Speaker:because when you walk, you'll see
Speaker:stories everywhere. And it was through
Speaker:her that I first learned that history is
Speaker:not something in the past or something very far away.
Speaker:It lives in our hands, in the soil we walk
Speaker:on, in the women who were never written into
Speaker:books but lived full lives. Anyway,
Speaker:it was her that inspired me to look at
Speaker:history through the lens of women.
Speaker:And then, thirdly, a book.
Speaker:It's a book called if Women Rose,
Speaker:rooted by Sharon Blackie.
Speaker:Though the book itself is really woven from
Speaker:Celtic myths and European soil,
Speaker:it offered a truth that crossed oceans.
Speaker:One of the things that she writes about in her book
Speaker:is change begins small.
Speaker:And we can either sit in our grief and our frustration
Speaker:with the silences of history, or we
Speaker:can rise and speak. So this podcast
Speaker:is my rising, a way of honoring the
Speaker:women history erased and letting their strength
Speaker:echo forward through sound, through
Speaker:memory, and through you.
Speaker:Since beginning this journey, something unexpected happened.
Speaker:My anger towards the patriarchy has
Speaker:quietened, and the
Speaker:resentment that I held has softened.
Speaker:Because in telling these stories, I stepped into
Speaker:action. And action is its own
Speaker:kind of healing. It's
Speaker:my hope that this offering becomes part of a much
Speaker:older ripple of change, one that began with women
Speaker:way before me,
Speaker:the ancestors who had no microphones, but left
Speaker:legacy in their footsteps.
Speaker:And that in your own way, in your own voice,
Speaker:you too will carry it forward.
Speaker:So nothing is ever really done in isolation.
Speaker:And this podcast, this living
Speaker:archive of memory, was. Would have never
Speaker:come to life without the people and the support that
Speaker:surrounded it.
Speaker:So, first of all, a dream needs roots.
Speaker:I had an idea, a vision,
Speaker:a feeling in my chest that I wouldn't let go
Speaker:for about two and a half years. In my mind, I had already
Speaker:created this podcast. But it wasn't
Speaker:until I started conversations with
Speaker:culture, Fons Karibi, Schebit
Speaker:and Fons for Kultur Participati,
Speaker:who gave this project wings.
Speaker:They saw possibility in the idea. They
Speaker:believe that storytelling,
Speaker:especially storytelling, rooted in Caribbean soil
Speaker:deserve to be funded and deserve to be
Speaker:heard. We live
Speaker:in a world where dreams need money, and that's
Speaker:unfortunately, the truth. And I'm
Speaker:endlessly grateful that these funds
Speaker:made space for voices often pushed to the
Speaker:margins, women's voices,
Speaker:and in particularly in our case,
Speaker:voices from synthesias.
Speaker:Because of that support, the financial support that this
Speaker:project was granted, I was
Speaker:able to build a team.
Speaker:And let me tell you, behind every whisper you've heard,
Speaker:there's been a chorus of hands, heart, and hard
Speaker:work.
Speaker:So part of this amazing team, we have
Speaker:Eugene, our, uh, sound designer. He's in the studio
Speaker:with me right now.
Speaker:We've had Ankeli,
Speaker:who helped me also with recordings for voiceovers.
Speaker:Sarah, our web designer, who took a
Speaker:vision and made it visible.
Speaker:Our, uh, podcast producers, Ivo and Ali,
Speaker:who helped me shape the foundation of the podcast and the
Speaker:distribution. And, um,
Speaker:the graphic designer, Niquet, who translated
Speaker:each episode and the podcast logo into a visual
Speaker:image. And last
Speaker:but not least, we have Vanessa and Chandra, two
Speaker:sisters from this very island who handled our
Speaker:social media with care, care and pride.
Speaker:Now, I had this dream
Speaker:of only hiring women, not because
Speaker:I'm against men, actually, far from it. I've
Speaker:been shaped by strong, tender men too.
Speaker:But I wanted to tip the skill evenly
Speaker:to empower more women through this process behind the mic
Speaker:as well as in front of it.
Speaker:And then there was another stumbling block
Speaker:that I came across
Speaker:because life happens Covid
Speaker:deadlines, full time job,
Speaker:moments where I thought I wouldn't finish. But somehow,
Speaker:somehow we made it. Because that's the magic of
Speaker:community. You find your people, you keep
Speaker:going. Even when it's messy and even when it's
Speaker:hard.
Speaker:M so how did we do it technically? Well, it was a
Speaker:dance between remote interviews
Speaker:because most of the people that you hear on this podcast
Speaker:are not necessarily located here.
Speaker:Zoom calls voice notes
Speaker:recording in quiet corners of the island.
Speaker:And then for the visuals, chasing good light. And it wasn't
Speaker:always perfect, but it was real.
Speaker:And maybe that's what makes it beautiful.
Speaker:So if you're listening and you've got an
Speaker:idea, a story, a vision,
Speaker:my advice, find your people, start where you are,
Speaker:and don't be afraid to whisper into this world
Speaker:some of the highlights and stumbling
Speaker:blocks. So if I had to
Speaker:pick a favorite moment from this season,
Speaker:honestly, it's kind of hard because every episode we poured
Speaker:in so much effort.
Speaker:But I have kind of two highlights.
Speaker:For me, episode two on the Amerindians has a
Speaker:special place in my heart.
Speaker:It really reminded me that Stacia's story did not
Speaker:begin with the colonizers or even the
Speaker:traitors. It began with a deep, sacred
Speaker:relationship with the land, with
Speaker:the elements. Uh, even the indigenous name,
Speaker:Aloui Island. And
Speaker:this was so unexpected. I didn't realize that
Speaker:there was a matrifocal society here.
Speaker:That was such an unexpected fact to
Speaker:discover. And then
Speaker:episode four, the Curse of the Blue Bead.
Speaker:That one really hit me in the gut. I did not
Speaker:expect it to be so emotional. And
Speaker:writing those voiceovers broke something in me.
Speaker:I cried a lot during that time. I felt the
Speaker:injustice, the way women
Speaker:were treated, how that pain was woven into
Speaker:silence. And it just made me so angry,
Speaker:deeply upset and frustrated.
Speaker:Not just for them, but also how often those patterns
Speaker:are still present in our life today.
Speaker:Something I definitely did not anticipate was the emotional
Speaker:toll that this kind of storytelling takes.
Speaker:I'm a highly sensitive person,
Speaker:um, and this wasn't just a creative
Speaker:project. It required me
Speaker:often to process kind of this grief that I felt that
Speaker:wasn't always mine, almost like a collective grief.
Speaker:And I sometimes had to start
Speaker:scheduling emotional space, not just the editing
Speaker:time. Often when we
Speaker:have an episode going live, like, I had already listened to it
Speaker:five times. But, yeah,
Speaker:when I started this project, the podcast producer,
Speaker:EFO would often say, like, ooh, that's an
Speaker:aggressive timeline. And
Speaker:it's true. You just. Things come up that you don't
Speaker:account for. And this is definitely one of my lessons that
Speaker:I learned.
Speaker:So sometimes, you know, life gets in the way. Deadline waivers.
Speaker:And, yeah, he was right.
Speaker:Creating something this layer, this alive, takes more than
Speaker:discipline. It also really takes hard space.
Speaker:One of the brightest lights in all of this is, you know,
Speaker:spending time with the elders. I give chair yoga
Speaker:on a weekly basis, so I already have a
Speaker:bond. But sitting down with some of the elders and recording
Speaker:their stories, their laughter, their wisdom,
Speaker:that was really something magical. And I'll never
Speaker:forget one of the quotes by Mrs. Rivers,
Speaker:what I like about Stacia.
Speaker:You are free.
Speaker:>> Ms. Sutekau: I, uh, am free.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): I didn't expect her to say this. We were talking,
Speaker:and she says that she's free.
Speaker:Um, and that's why she loves Stacia, because of the
Speaker:freedom here. It was just so simple. But in that
Speaker:moment, I just. I felt like, yes,
Speaker:we're going to use that to bring this
Speaker:series to an end. Because freedom
Speaker:isn't always loud.
Speaker:It's a quiet truth spoken by someone who has lived enough life
Speaker:to know what it really, really means.
Speaker:So you might wonder the Big question. Will
Speaker:there be a season two?
Speaker:And the answer is the whispers
Speaker:haven't gone quiet. It's still
Speaker:humming in the background, soft
Speaker:and persistent. There
Speaker:are more stories waiting, more
Speaker:voices still unheard, more roots
Speaker:to uncover beneath the soil of memory.
Speaker:And for now, we are taking a short creative pause
Speaker:to breathe, to reflect,
Speaker:to listen again before speaking.
Speaker:So we're exploring new themes and looking into funding
Speaker:and what's possible.
Speaker:It's really important for me to move with intention,
Speaker:and we want to build this next chapter with reference.
Speaker:So, yes, the ambition is alive. And when it's
Speaker:time, we'll return with more echoes,
Speaker:more truth, and more
Speaker:of a fierce, quiet courage that began this
Speaker:journey. So please stay
Speaker:close. Watch this space,
Speaker:and when the next whisper rises, you'll be the
Speaker:first to know.
Speaker:Before we close, I want to pause and
Speaker:say thank you. First of all, to you, the
Speaker:listeners who turned in from near and far,
Speaker:who made space in your heart
Speaker:and your headphones for these stories to live
Speaker:again. Your presence
Speaker:gave this work breath.
Speaker:And to the remarkable team behind Whispers of the Past,
Speaker:thank you for carrying me and this vision
Speaker:from production to design, from sound to story.
Speaker:You elevated each episode into something I could
Speaker:only dream of.
Speaker:Thank you to my personal cheerleaders, my friends
Speaker:who encouraged me from the beginning.
Speaker:And then we have the voices, the ones you
Speaker:heard, and the ones who remain
Speaker:unnamed. Thank you
Speaker:to Mrs. Tsutakao, to Mr. Richardson,
Speaker:Dr. Anna Hanslin, Dr.
Speaker:Elaine, Dr. Stelton,
Speaker:Dr. Morsink, and Dr.
Speaker:Sahidi. Your scholarship,
Speaker:your expertise grounded the soul
Speaker:of this series.
Speaker:And then to the local wisdom keepers, Governor
Speaker:Francis, Mr. Burkle,
Speaker:Mrs. Rivers, and Mrs. Bennett.
Speaker:Your stories made the past feel like a living room we
Speaker:could sit in. Every word you shared
Speaker:became a thread woven into collective remembering.
Speaker:This podcast began as a whisper,
Speaker:a quiet yearning to reclaim the untold,
Speaker:to make space for women's voices in archives
Speaker:where silences had settled.
Speaker:It was never just about history. It was
Speaker:about healing and about reclaiming the right to say,
Speaker:we're here. We mattered and we
Speaker:carried on. If there's anything I hope
Speaker:you take from this, let it be this.
Speaker:Stories are not just remnants of the past. They
Speaker:are reminders of what we can still
Speaker:transform. Until
Speaker:next time. May the whispers lead you
Speaker:where truth calls, where
Speaker:healing awaits, and where the future is
Speaker:shaped by those who dare to remember.
Speaker:>> Speaker C: Welcome to my island.
Speaker:My historical island.
Speaker:Ask anyone.
Speaker:Welcome to my island.
Speaker:Welcome to my island.