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Heather HesterMy name is Heather Hester and I am so grateful you are here.
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Speaker BI am so glad that you are here, especially during this very busy time of year where I know we all feel like we're going in a million different directions, which is why I really chose today's Time topic, which is how to handle non affirming folks and other crises during the holidays.
Speaker BThis is something that I have talked about from the beginning on the show from time to time, and I just feel like it's really good to revisit so that we can be reminded of the different tools that we have available and strategies that we have available.
Speaker BBut most of all, to remember that this time of year is about really enjoying being with the people we love and the people, you know, are people, whoever that may be.
Speaker BAnd all the other stuff is just.
Speaker BIs either extra or stuff that we need to put boundaries around.
Speaker BSo this is just my gentle reminder and my big hug to all of you for the holiday season.
Speaker BAnd as you may or may not remember, I do love this time of year.
Speaker BIt has always been my favorite from the time that the kids were little.
Speaker BAnd now with Connor and Isabelle away from home at college, it is even more wonderful as they come home and Grace and Rowan are so excited to see them and we are all excited to be together again.
Speaker BAnd the dogs are nuts.
Speaker BJust this beautiful chaos that occurs.
Speaker BAnd over time, there are the traditions that they love.
Speaker BThey each have their, you know, their favorite thing.
Speaker BWhether it's something that I bake or some activity that we all do together, or watching, you know, our favorite movies over and over and over again.
Speaker BAnd it's just this.
Speaker BIt's magical, right?
Speaker BIt's magical.
Speaker BAnd really, whatever your belief system is, whatever you celebrate, the energy of this time of year is incredible, right?
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BIt's inviting, it's warm, it's frenetic, it's insane, and it's miraculous.
Speaker BUnfortunately, crisis situations do not take a break for the calendar or the seasons or anything really, and neither do the strong opinions of others.
Speaker BIn fact, one might argue that differences are more likely to reach a boiling point during the holidays with the mix of all of the togetherness and a touch of that frenetic holiday energy.
Speaker BSo what can we do when we find ourselves in tough situations, including conversations with non affirming family and friends during the holidays?
Speaker BLike so much that I've talked about, being in crisis can feel so very lonely, even if a good friend or family member or neighbor is going through their own rough spot, or they try to emphasize with you and empathize with you.
Speaker BWhen you're in the midst of turmoil, your feelings tend to be overwhelm and fear and that no one can possibly understand your situation.
Speaker BYou may be having a hard time processing or even searching for solutions because your brain and your emotions are completely on overload.
Speaker BSo let's start there.
Speaker BActually, let's start with the way we usually end the podcast with a breath.
Speaker BGo ahead, take that deep belly breath right now.
Speaker BAs you are listening.
Speaker BI'll wait.
Speaker BOkay, now your nervous system is in a calmer state.
Speaker BI just listened to this webinar where a gal named Kelly Lubeck was on and she was talking about the science behind why breath and meditation are so important for the health of your nervous system.
Speaker BAnd I've actually linked her in the show notes, so check her out if you're interested in knowing why this actually works for your body and not just that it does work for your body.
Speaker BSo we're going to start with word choice.
Speaker BWord choice is a big deal.
Speaker BFor instance, the subtle distinction in the meanings of the words handle, cope with, manage, deal with, respond to, and approach make a difference in reading, processing, and presenting this topic.
Speaker BIt boils down to the relationship you have with the person or the people with whom you are communicating.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BCertain words and phrases capture certain instances more accurately.
Speaker BThe phrase non affirming tends to relate to those who do not affirm based on religious beliefs.
Speaker BThe word unsupportive is used to describe those who have feelings of opposition to their LGBTQ child, friend, or community based on bias, ignorance, or beliefs that are not religious in origin.
Speaker BSo how do we cope with, manage and respond to non affirming or unsupportive folks with a spirit of grace, patience, and education, while also maintaining protective boundaries and empowering our kids?
Speaker BThe answer is carefully, Very carefully.
Speaker BWe need to be clear on what we hope to accomplish by engaging in a conversation around this topic to Access this clarity, we need to have educational points of reference beyond our intuition and unconditional love.
Speaker BWe also need to have a strong sense of boundaries.
Speaker BHaving a few responses ready to go that are your own special blend of grace, patience and education are really helpful.
Speaker BHere are a couple of broad topics just to help get you going.
Speaker BThe first one is time.
Speaker BIt takes everyone time to adjust to the change in their movie reel.
Speaker BAs you know, so many factors go into this.
Speaker BSome people just need a minute to process the information.
Speaker BNumber two Facts.
Speaker BKnowledge is not only power, it is calming, it's centering and it is confidence infusing.
Speaker BHave the basic facts down that are specific specific to your child for where they are in their journey right now.
Speaker BThis is important, right?
Speaker BThis is important to remember that their journey is evolving.
Speaker BYour journey is evolving.
Speaker BBut having those basic facts that are specific to them is super helpful and then begin to expand your knowledge from there.
Speaker BThe resource section of my website is a great place to start as well as my new book the Language of lgbtqia.
Speaker BNumber three Boundaries.
Speaker BSetting and clarifying your boundaries works wonders in allowing you to stay connected to your truth.
Speaker BTeach your child how to do this as well.
Speaker BIt is an invaluable life skill.
Speaker BSo holiday gatherings are a favorite time to come out to friends and relatives.
Speaker BSo what do you do when your child comes out and faces a non affirming or an unsupportive response?
Speaker BBoundaries can be a little more difficult with a family member or friend and those who are strongly anti LGBTQ tend to approach this topic with a lot of fire.
Speaker BSo how do we prepare for this?
Speaker BWhat do we do?
Speaker BFirst of all, like we just talked about, know those facts.
Speaker BKnow your facts, stay calm and breathe.
Speaker BIf you do not have an answer to a specific question, don't panic.
Speaker BIt's okay.
Speaker BTake a breath.
Speaker BOffer to share the resources that have helped you.
Speaker BI have handled this in the past by saying that I know to the core of my being that God created Connor to be exactly he is and I'm happy to share research that supports that feeling.
Speaker BAnother powerful response is anyone who thinks that being LGBTQ is a choice has clearly never known or supported someone through the coming out process.
Speaker BNo one chooses that.
Speaker BThe complete opposite situation is also possible here where your child knows there are non affirming or unsupportive people at one or more of your holiday gatherings and they just don't want to go.
Speaker BHonor that.
Speaker BHonor that.
Speaker BI know it can be hard when there are expectations of others at play.
Speaker BThis is one of those Moments where that pause and a breath can give you so much clarity.
Speaker BWhat is more important Aunt Susie's feelings or that your child knows that you have their back no matter what?
Speaker BA while back I came across a blog written by Nathaniel Totten Green that absolutely blew me away.
Speaker BI'm going to share a couple of summarized excerpts with you from this letter that he wrote to his non affirming friends because it is just beautiful.
Speaker BHis writing is beautiful.
Speaker BSo I actually linking his blog in the show notes.
Speaker BTake a moment and read it.
Speaker BIt's extraordinary but he takes I have three of the four points that he makes and he takes three of these four common comments or justifications that those who are non affirming use and he explains why they are incorrect and what would be a more thoughtful way of addressing the first one is love the sinner, hate the sin.
Speaker BThis one essentially divides a person into two parts, the person and the quote unquote behavior.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BHowever, just as those who are straight do not exist without their sexuality, neither does one who was lgbtq.
Speaker BThe difference is one is societally normative and the other isn't.
Speaker BSo which part is hated?
Speaker BNumber two, I love you, but I disagree.
Speaker BThis one has the same feeling as no offense, but what follows is almost always offensive, right?
Speaker BAdding a qualifier does not make it otherwise.
Speaker BWe know that you disagree ethically, morally, philosophically and otherwise, but who our kids inherently are is not something that can simply be disagreed with.
Speaker BLove is not unconditional if it has to be qualified.
Speaker BNumber three, the Bible quote clearly says first of all, no it doesn't.
Speaker BSecond, there is not one singular interpretation.
Speaker BAnd third, even if the Bible specifically condemned homosexuality, which it doesn't, it does actually condone slavery, selling our daughters, killing those who work on the Sabbath, and promotes the inferiority of women, all of which we have as a society rejected as inhumane, morally wrong and just plain incorrect.
Speaker BA belief system should not be based on cherry picking.
Speaker BFinally, how do we respond to a homophobic family member, friend or community?
Speaker BWe all know at least one person who has some form of prejudice or bias.
Speaker BRemember, we cannot change the way others think or feel.
Speaker BWe can only change how we respond to them and set boundaries.
Speaker BYou absolutely do not need to, and I kind of want to say should not sit silently when someone says hurtful things or makes homophobic remarks.
Speaker BEducate yourself so that you can respond with facts, statistics, logic.
Speaker BRemind yourself that homophobia is based on a lack of knowledge and fear.
Speaker BHave realistic expectations of what you would like the outcome of any conversation to be, and remember that shifts take time.
Speaker BMost of all, make it clear that their remarks are not okay.
Speaker BThe most important thing you can do is have your child's back.
Speaker BFor all of our LGBTQ love, specifically someone else's, homophobia is not your problem or your fault.
Speaker BI want you to repeat that in your head.
Speaker BThis is not my issue, this is theirs.
Speaker BIt is okay to remain hopeful that time will help shift the homophobic person's attitude.
Speaker BRemember, homophobia is generally a lack of education and just plain fear rearing its ugly head.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BStand up for yourself if you feel comfortable doing so.
Speaker BAnd most of all, remember that you are not alone and that you are loved.
Speaker BFinally, find support in the form of therapy support groups for LGBTQ people or online in places like the Trevor Project.
Speaker BI want to close with a few tips and suggestions that will help support you through holiday crises and run ins with non affirming folks alike.
Speaker B1.
Speaker BTake time to be present with all of your children.
Speaker BIt is easy to become mentally, emotionally and physically consumed by the one who is struggling the most.
Speaker BThe others need your attention just as much.
Speaker BIf they want to make gingerbread houses from scratch, make those gingerbread houses and allow yourself to enjoy the process and the hilarity that literally no human outside of Martha Stewart can make a picture worthy gingerbread house that has any structural integrity.
Speaker BThe point here is to spend time and spend time laughing together.
Speaker BNumber two.
Speaker BEqually as important, take time to be with your spouse or partner, not discussing the crisis at hand.
Speaker BGet out of the house, go for dinner or coffee or a glass of wine and just talk and enjoy being with one another.
Speaker BI really cannot emphasize the importance of this one enough.
Speaker BCommunicate, appreciate and love each other.
Speaker BNumber three Spend time with your dog.
Speaker BAgain, being present, petting them, soaking in that amazing energy.
Speaker BI find dogs to be incredibly therapeutic, but your emotional support animal may be a cat or a bird or an iguana.
Speaker BIt doesn't matter as long as you spend time with them.
Speaker BAs long as spending time with them allows you to be in the moment, centers you and helps you feel grounded and calm.
Speaker BThat's what matters, right?
Speaker BIf you don't have a dog or a cat or a bird or a lizard, hang out with a friend who does, or go to a shelter.
Speaker BYou might just end up with one.
Speaker BNumber four do something nice for yourself.
Speaker BTake a minute to think of a few things that calm and center you.
Speaker BPick one and do it.
Speaker BIt can be anything from going to a yoga class, getting a massage, going for a mani, pedi, meditating, going out to lunch with a friend Taking time in the middle of your day to read a book.
Speaker BGoing for a walk?
Speaker BHere's a novel one.
Speaker BHiring a cleaning service.
Speaker BOrder takeout.
Speaker BWhatever works for you.
Speaker BWhatever is something that just feels like you're spoiling yourself a little bit.
Speaker BDo it.
Speaker BYou deserve it.
Speaker BNumber five do something nice for someone else.
Speaker BWhen you give of yourself from a place of love, whether it is time, a thoughtful gesture, a smile, it has the lovely benefit of not only making someone else's day brighter, but yours as well.
Speaker BNumber six Start a Gratitude Journal when you are in the midst of turmoil, it is way too easy to feel that 100% of your focus needs to be on the situation situation at hand.
Speaker BWhen you shift into a mindset of gratitude, it forces your brain and your body to relax.
Speaker BThere is actually a chemical component that occurs here.
Speaker BIt may feel awkward at first, but I promise if you just take a few minutes a day to write, your body, mind and spirit will balance.
Speaker BAnd thank you.
Speaker BI know this is hard, but remember, it can be.
Speaker BAnd there is a crisis in your life and you are grateful.
Speaker BYou just had an uncomfortable conversation with a non affirming relative and you were laughing hysterically with your kids watching ELF for the 10th time.
Speaker BYour homophobic friend just made a cruel comment and you feel at peace sitting on the floor with your dog and rubbing their belly.
Speaker BAnd so much love and hugs to all of you and a gentle reminder to embrace the beauty and the messiness of your holiday season.
Speaker BUntil next time.
Heather HesterThanks so much for joining me today.
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