All right, so what's going on, everybody?
Speaker BHey, everyone.
Speaker AThis is the final episode of Spirit.
Speaker BWarfare, the final frontier, episode 12.
Speaker ANot the droids you're looking for.
Speaker ASo the final frontier was Star Trek, though.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo I'm Matt.
Speaker AI'm Derek.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker BAnd if you have been on this journey with us, then you know that we have been going.
Speaker BThis is a 12 12th week of spiritual warfare.
Speaker BWe've talked about what it is.
Speaker BWe've broken down the armor of God.
Speaker BWe have talked about what is to live in that way, to pray in that way.
Speaker BWe've talked about victory.
Speaker BThere's all kinds of things we've talked about.
Speaker BWe've also talked about spiritual warfare in our daily lives.
Speaker BAnd now we are going to be answering some of your questions that were sent in.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo we had six questions.
Speaker BFeels like a short amount.
Speaker AIt does feel like a short amount.
Speaker BMaybe we should take that as a compliment.
Speaker BMaybe.
Speaker BOur Spiritual Warfare series was so good that we answered so many questions, and there wasn't much left to give us.
Speaker ASo you guys should be experts.
Speaker AAnd for those of you that we know that are watching, we expect you to be able to answer all of the questions for any question in regards to spiritual warfare because you didn't have any to send to us.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo you must be pros.
Speaker AYep.
Speaker AWe did a good job.
Speaker AFound it.
Speaker ABoom.
Speaker BWe rocked it.
Speaker AAll right, class dismissed.
Speaker ANo, I'm just kidding.
Speaker AObviously, we're kidding.
Speaker AWe know that there are some very active listeners that have sent in some solid questions.
Speaker ASome of them play off of each other, which is good.
Speaker AIt'll help us to move through them a little bit.
Speaker ABut let's start with.
Speaker AWe're gonna start with an icebreaker.
Speaker AWhat has been your favorite or most impactful episode or concept from this series so far?
Speaker BOh, my favorite.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWhat's been your favorite?
Speaker BOh, man, that's a good one.
Speaker BI think the Truth.
Speaker BI think the Truth episode was my favorite.
Speaker AYeah, I think it was your favorite, too.
Speaker AYou were, like, so stoked and prepared.
Speaker BI was.
Speaker AYou brought in this whole long list.
Speaker AI'm like, you didn't share that with me?
Speaker ANo, no, I didn't.
Speaker BI did.
Speaker BWell, you know what?
Speaker BI was excited about that and fate.
Speaker ACan you get that to me so that I can post it for people?
Speaker AIt would be awesome to be able to post stuff.
Speaker BYeah, I can get you.
Speaker ASo go ahead, explain why it's your favorite.
Speaker BWell, I think that, I mean, that's the number one thing that we can battle spiritual warfare with, is the truth.
Speaker BAnd These are things that definitely have helped me in my understanding of spiritual warfare and my battles.
Speaker BAnd so that was the thing I think I was most excited to bring to the table, you know, because they were important to me.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AMine was definitely the breastplate.
Speaker AJust the car heart.
Speaker ASo good.
Speaker AYeah, The Carhartt.
Speaker AIt was just so good remembering that it's not my righteousness, but Jesus.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd it's one of those things that it's hard sometimes to think, okay, well, what is the belt of truth?
Speaker ABelt of truth is kind of easy, right?
Speaker AThe things that are true, you know, that God.
Speaker AGod says are true.
Speaker AIf you really dig, they're easy to just come up with.
Speaker ABut, like, some of the other ones, like, breastplate of Righteousness, like, you're like, what is that?
Speaker AWhat's it mean to put on, you know, righteousness?
Speaker AAnd so, like, I think that one hit me.
Speaker AHit me the hardest.
Speaker AJust the fact that, like, getting up every day and saying, it's not anything I've done, but what Jesus already did, and it's his righteousness that covers me and protects me.
Speaker ALike, that was probably one of my most impactful points.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIt takes us out of that first person.
Speaker BIt's nothing that we did.
Speaker BIt's all about him, what he did.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah, that's a good one.
Speaker ABetween those and last week, I thought last week's was solid, and it just was.
Speaker AIt felt like natural conversation that was like.
Speaker AIt just.
Speaker AIt flowed really well together, I thought.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker BYeah, it went pretty good.
Speaker BI always enjoy having Kevin on.
Speaker BHe goes real well.
Speaker BSo I don't know.
Speaker BI think that went pretty good.
Speaker BI think, actually, it went so well.
Speaker BI remember we skipped a whole bunch of things.
Speaker BWe.
Speaker BOriginally, it was the most we skipped in an episode.
Speaker BWe have a plan.
Speaker AUntil today.
Speaker BUntil today, we're gonna just skip a.
Speaker AWhole lot of stuff, throw it all out.
Speaker BBut no.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BOn every episode we've done, we've had kind of an outline going into it, and I messed up the truth one because I brought in a lot of my own material.
Speaker BBut then.
Speaker BBut last week, we were just throwing out sections at a time because we realized that we were spending so much more time, which I think was good time.
Speaker AI think so.
Speaker AI think it was really good.
Speaker BI think it was worth it.
Speaker BBut we spent so much more time on that, that we were like, all right, this section's got to go.
Speaker BWe're just going to summarize this.
Speaker BYeah, it was just kind of fun to see.
Speaker BBut that's when, you know, it's good is that things.
Speaker BAnd it was a long episode too.
Speaker BIt wasn't like, a short episode, so.
Speaker AAnd challenge.
Speaker AGo back, count how many times I passed him a note saying, we're gonna change things.
Speaker AIf you look close enough, you can probably see it.
Speaker BIf you do.
Speaker BIf you look close enough, you can see him, like, writing.
Speaker BOkay, we're gonna pray here.
Speaker BOh, okay.
Speaker BWe're just gonna skip this section going on.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BI'm just gonna summarize.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo, all right.
Speaker ASo today we're gonna take the questions.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd we're just gonna take them one at a time.
Speaker AAnd if there's still plenty of time left over, we're gonna draw from our random box, because that's always fun, and I know I enjoy it, so.
Speaker ABut I don't think there's gonna be.
Speaker AI think we'll.
Speaker AWe'll be able to fill this.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AWe'll see.
Speaker BI think it should be fun.
Speaker BI will find out.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo buckle up and welcome to the truth respons.
Speaker ASam.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AI'll pray today.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker AThank you, Lord, for this day.
Speaker AI want to thank you for the blessings that you pour down on us, God.
Speaker AAnd the little things and the big things and just the air we breathe, God.
Speaker AThe things we forget to thank you for, Lord.
Speaker AAnd the things that, well, we can do nothing without you.
Speaker ASo we thank you for walking alongside us so that we can do things too, God, thank you for going before us and knowing what's coming and still walking with us and holding our hands through it.
Speaker AGod, thank you for the lessons you teach us.
Speaker AAnd I just pray that you guide the answers and the questions today to be pleasing to you.
Speaker AAnd I pray that we can all learn something from it.
Speaker AIt's in your precious and holy name we pray.
Speaker AAmen.
Speaker BAmen.
Speaker BAll right, first questions.
Speaker AFirst question.
Speaker BOh, man.
Speaker AThe way I'm gonna do this is I'm gonna read either, like, the at name, depending on where you posted, or first name, so.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker ABecause everybody can see it, those things if they're on the things, so.
Speaker AAll right, so from Diane.
Speaker BFrom Diane.
Speaker ASo, two thoughts.
Speaker AI have been having a tendency to pray for God's will to be done when I pray for someone or something, that it be his will in the outcome and not mine.
Speaker AI have just felt that even though I would like a particular outcome, God may have other plans, and I have to accept his will, not my own.
Speaker AWhat do you think about this kind of prayer?
Speaker AAlso, it helps to write things down.
Speaker ASo I tend to write them in my prayer journal.
Speaker ASo what do you think about this kind of prayer?
Speaker AThat's the first question.
Speaker BOkay, the first question.
Speaker BI think that.
Speaker BI think sometimes maybe we're too careful in how we pray, but.
Speaker BSo I think sometimes we get little worried about if we're asking the wrong things.
Speaker BHonestly, I think that God would want us to pray for the things we do desire.
Speaker BI mean, anything that is big enough to worry about or to consume our thoughts is big enough to bring to him.
Speaker BSo I think it's not that it's on the wrong track.
Speaker BI don't think it's that.
Speaker BI think maybe we should reframe the thought process a little bit.
Speaker BI'll give you, for instance, there was a period of time where I was really afraid of losing my wife because of a medical thing.
Speaker BAnd there was one day in particular where I thought it was it.
Speaker BI thought that she was.
Speaker BShe had a medical emergency.
Speaker BAnd I thought, I'm losing my wife today.
Speaker BAnd it was a terrible thing.
Speaker BObviously, there's much more to that story, but the basis is when I thought I was losing her, how I prayed to God was kind of a mixture of this.
Speaker BI was very.
Speaker BI wanted to align myself with what he willed, for sure.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BBut the thing is, at that point, you're more saying, I trust you in this than you are, oh, don't think about what I want.
Speaker BThink about only what you want.
Speaker BSo I would say, God, listen, I don't know what you're doing, but I'm going to trust you no matter what the outcome.
Speaker BThat being said, this is what I want.
Speaker BAnd just flat out.
Speaker BSo with that particular prayer, it was God, I don't know what's happening here.
Speaker BI'm afraid I'm losing Sadie.
Speaker BI trust you with her more than I trust me with her.
Speaker BI don't know what's going to happen here, and I want to trust you in it.
Speaker BI know that if this is your will, that she's going to be gone.
Speaker BAnd I want to, you know, you'll somehow get us through.
Speaker BBut I don't want to lose her.
Speaker BPlease don't take her.
Speaker BPlease heal her.
Speaker BBecause I, you know, and I made it very clear, like on one hand, yes, I am.
Speaker BI'm trusting that whatever this outcome is going to be, you're going to be there for me or you'll be there with us and my kids and all that.
Speaker BBut here's what I want, and I made very.
Speaker BBoth very clear.
Speaker BI think there's a balance of trusting in God.
Speaker BAnd I think there's also us being able to go to him with just anything, you know, flat out, this is what I want.
Speaker BSo when we pray for people, let's say.
Speaker BLet's name Sally.
Speaker BI don't know a Sally, but let's say I know a Sally and Sally's sick and you pray to God.
Speaker BGod, I don't know what's going on in Sally's life, and obviously your will is above mine, but I want Sally to get better.
Speaker BSo, Lord, I'm asking you to help her get better.
Speaker BI think that is a good way of thinking of it, where we want to respect God and his authority.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BAnd we acknowledge that his plan is definitely always better than our plan.
Speaker BBut we need to be able to come with him and go, but this is what I'm asking for in boldness.
Speaker BWe trust him, but we still know that he wants to hear from us.
Speaker AYeah, I think that we can always pray better.
Speaker ALike, I mean, the more we do it, the better we get it, I think, naturally.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ABut I think the most important thing, not that.
Speaker ANot that both aren't important, but I think the most important thing is the how we pray more so than the what we pray.
Speaker ALike, is there reference.
Speaker AIs there Thanksgiving?
Speaker AYou know, are those things happening?
Speaker ABecause, like, if we're.
Speaker AWe're told to come with Thanksgiving in our hearts and present our requests before God.
Speaker ARight, absolutely.
Speaker AAnd Jesus example of doing that has the idea of your will be done.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ASo there's a how that is more important than the what.
Speaker ASo the words we say are a little less important than the heart in which we come to him in.
Speaker AI think that's the biggest thing in it is that, like, we don't always have to say, your will be done, but if we come to him with a heart that says, your will be done, then that's enough.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker AThat's good enough.
Speaker AAnd I think that he wants us to pray bold prayers, as we've talked about several times throughout the series, that we are being transformed by the renewing of our mind so that we know what God's will is.
Speaker ASo the more we do that and the more we transform, the more we're walking in his will and we'll know what to ask.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd asking for.
Speaker BI mean, God is a fan of people getting better.
Speaker BHe is the great physician, you know, so to ask him for healing is not a terrible thing to ask him for.
Speaker BIt's not a selfish thing to ask him for.
Speaker BEven if you're asking for Yourself, you know, it's not necessarily.
Speaker BYou know, he is a healer.
Speaker BHe has done it.
Speaker BHe could do it again.
Speaker BBut I think your heart.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYour heart being in the right place about it is more important than the exact words we're using.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah, for sure.
Speaker BSo cool.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSecond half of that, what she write, it helps me to write things down.
Speaker BI tend to write my prayers in a letter to God form in my journal.
Speaker BI like that.
Speaker BHave you ever done that?
Speaker AWell, right now we're doing the experiencing God thing.
Speaker AAnd you're doing it with the youth, though, aren't you?
Speaker BYeah, I'm doing it.
Speaker ASo I don't know what the format is for you guys, but at the end of each day, we have to write, like, what was the thing that stood out to you most?
Speaker AWhether it's scripture, just a phrase or something.
Speaker AAnd then we have to rewrite it in a letter to God.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd a prayer.
Speaker AAnd I've been writing it in letter form.
Speaker AAnd then, you know, what is God calling you to do from this?
Speaker AAnd so that's been kind of cool.
Speaker ASo writing it down.
Speaker AThat's awesome.
Speaker AI think that not only does that.
Speaker AThat give you something to look back at and save it for your rainy day file.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AWhenever he answers it, but you have something that tracks and you can look back and you can see God is transforming my prayer.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI think it's really great.
Speaker BHonestly, we don't even think about the fact that when we orally pray, it's pretty much in letter form.
Speaker BHow often do we start with addressing him and end with amen?
Speaker BIt's like a letter form.
Speaker BDear our Father, Father God, Lord, we address him.
Speaker BWe get through the letter, and then we end it in Amen.
Speaker BSo we do it in the same way orally, but when we write it down, it's kind of neat.
Speaker BIt's actually, for some.
Speaker BAnd I'm hoping that this person.
Speaker BThis is kind of behind it.
Speaker BAnd I feel like it is.
Speaker BIt's a good way of putting our heart into it.
Speaker BWe feel more organized.
Speaker BIt comes out a little differently because we're thinking about how we're wording everything.
Speaker BWe're thinking about how we're writing it all down.
Speaker BAnd the processing becomes different and the pressure of saying it the first time goes away.
Speaker BAnd you can really just write it out the way you want to write it out.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ABut I've found myself multiple times being like, I. I'm writing it down.
Speaker AAnd I'm like, nope, that's not right.
Speaker AAnd I'll Scratch that out, and I'll keep going.
Speaker ABut it is processing.
Speaker AIt's a different kind of processing.
Speaker AYou're thinking deeper about it.
Speaker ASo I think that.
Speaker AYeah, I think it's a solid practice.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd as you said, it's really cool when you do have something in writing that you wrote to God and then to see how he interacted with that.
Speaker ADude, we could use that as an adult sticker book.
Speaker AWe go back and we put a sticker wherever God has answered prayers.
Speaker AWouldn't that be great?
Speaker AThat'd be freaking hilarious.
Speaker BThat'd be awesome.
Speaker BAmazing.
Speaker ALook, guys, I got five gold stars today.
Speaker AGod is so awesome.
Speaker AAnd I say that somewhat in jest, but not entirely.
Speaker AI mean, you got to mark off.
Speaker AYou got to acknowledge when God answers prayers.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ASo I think that going back and looking at.
Speaker AThat's good, too.
Speaker BYeah, I think that's good.
Speaker BI don't do it a lot, but I do from time to time.
Speaker BI sit and I write to God.
Speaker BI have certain little journal books that I will write out my prayers specifically for different people.
Speaker BAnd, yeah, it's a strangely different experience, but I like the feeling of knowing I have thought this through.
Speaker BThis is really where my heart's at.
Speaker ASo, yeah, that's how I feel with my songs.
Speaker ASeveral of my songs have been, like, really, like, here, this is.
Speaker AThis is to you kind of a thing.
Speaker AGod.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BNow, I tell you what, my.
Speaker BMy grandfather, I didn't even realize until he passed away.
Speaker BLike, he was a champion journaler and prayer to God person.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BTo a point where, like, I kind of wish I.
Speaker BHe had boxes of his journals and such that he had written and did his prayers and his Bible study with.
Speaker BAnd I. I passed on the majority of them because I was like, man, that's just a lot.
Speaker BI kind of wish I'd have kept a bit more of it because I think it would have been awesome to go back and see that journey and.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd look for more things.
Speaker BBut I.
Speaker BYou know, at the time you're looking, he passed away, and we're looking to get through cleaning out his stuff quickly.
Speaker AAnd, dude, that's tough sometimes.
Speaker AIt's a lot of stuff to go through.
Speaker BIt is a lot of stuff.
Speaker AA lifetime's worth of stuff.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBut, I mean, boxes and boxes of these journals.
Speaker BAnd I thought to myself, man, do I really.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BPart of me kicks myself for not taking more of them and reading through them.
Speaker BBut then again, those letters weren't to me, so they weren't necessarily for my Eyes.
Speaker BSo I'm trying to make peace with it.
Speaker AIt's kind of like they're not to you, but they might be for you.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, I know some other great work that was like that.
Speaker AIt holds more authority.
Speaker BBut there's a bunch of letters.
Speaker ABunch of letters.
Speaker AAnd, you know, other written things that are super important.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AIf you know what we're referring to, leave a comment.
Speaker AAll right, you ready for the next.
Speaker BNext.
Speaker BLet's go.
Speaker AAll right, so this is from work in progress, T3K.
Speaker AI wonder what the T3K means.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BI love the name Work in Progress, though.
Speaker AYeah, I do, too.
Speaker AThat's great.
Speaker AAll right, so I'm going to do these not in the order in which they posted them, but I think this will flow with our conversation better.
Speaker AAll right, so rewatch the episode with hubby.
Speaker AThis time we thought of another question.
Speaker AHow do you know if something is a distraction by your own doing or spiritual attack?
Speaker AExample, you forget to fill your car with gas causing you to be late to work.
Speaker ADoes that fall on you or would this be spiritual warfare?
Speaker BOh, interesting.
Speaker BWell, we got to be careful.
Speaker BSometimes it's just because we view things as a negative, they may not ultimately be a negative.
Speaker AI'll stop you from going too far there because that's going to be something we're going to talk about.
Speaker ALet's stick specifically to this question because the next question is going where I know you're going.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker BI mean, okay, well, then they're tie right into each other, right?
Speaker AThey are.
Speaker BHow do you know if something is direction by your own doing or spiritual act?
Speaker BI think if.
Speaker BI think the number one way you can know it is spiritual attack other than yourself, or maybe another source would be if what it's distracting you from is something that's like doing your Bible study or calling that person who you know is on your heart to call and check up on them or anything that kind of falls into that realm of like, this is my prayer time, but I got distracted.
Speaker BI didn't do my prayer time.
Speaker BThis is my study time.
Speaker BThis is my ministry time.
Speaker BThis is my Bible study.
Speaker BI should be going to this Bible study.
Speaker BBut now this other thing came up.
Speaker BI'll give you.
Speaker BI'll tell you what I remember.
Speaker BMany years ago, there was this kid.
Speaker BI'll just use his first name.
Speaker BHis name was Brandon.
Speaker BAnd Brandon came to me one day and he said, hey, man, I'm coming to your Bible study this weekend.
Speaker BI think it was.
Speaker BI can't remember if he said it on a Friday or Saturday, but the Bible study was on a Sunday night.
Speaker BAnd I said to him, okay, great.
Speaker BI said, now that you've said that you've never been.
Speaker BAnd he was really starting to come into more of a belief and understanding.
Speaker BAnd he started to.
Speaker BI said, okay, now that you've told me that something's going to come up, I'm just warning you ahead of time, something is going to come up and it's going to seem like a better idea.
Speaker BYou need to not do that.
Speaker BYou need to go to Bible study.
Speaker BHe's like, nah, nothing.
Speaker BI'm gonna be there.
Speaker BI said, okay.
Speaker BI said, but I'm telling you right now, something's gonna come up.
Speaker BAnd I don't know what it is, but something's gonna try to distract you and to keep you from going to Bible study.
Speaker BYou need to go to Bible study.
Speaker BAnd he said, nah, it'll be fine.
Speaker BAnd then Sunday comes, Sunday night came and Bible study happened and he wasn't there.
Speaker BAnd I hit him up and he's like, oh, you were right.
Speaker BI was like, why?
Speaker BHe goes, well, I think it was like the basketball game was on.
Speaker BHe's like, or maybe a final four.
Speaker BCan't remember exactly.
Speaker BHe's like, yeah, the game came on.
Speaker BI started watching that.
Speaker BI'm like, yeah, I told you.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThe enemy doesn't like us continuously progressing to God.
Speaker ANow here's a question for you.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AIs that the enemy's fault?
Speaker BAll he has to do is plant.
Speaker BIt's the suggestion, it's the option, it's the.
Speaker ASure.
Speaker ABut what I'm saying is we just went through this whole breakdown of the armor of God.
Speaker AAnd if he was diligently putting.
Speaker BOh, he wasn't.
Speaker BHe didn't know.
Speaker BI mean, he was still new.
Speaker BHe didn't.
Speaker BThe armor was there.
Speaker AI gotcha.
Speaker AYeah, I understand.
Speaker ABut Right.
Speaker ALike, if he had been.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ASo it's a tricky one.
Speaker AMy answer, and I don't.
Speaker AI don't disagree with you on that.
Speaker AI think that I tried.
Speaker AThat's a solid.
Speaker BTo give him the heads up so he could be armored.
Speaker ARight, Right.
Speaker ASo my answer to this is more along the lines of.
Speaker AIt falls on spiritual warfare, in my opinion, when it's excessively emotional.
Speaker AExcessively.
Speaker ANot to.
Speaker AWhat it should be.
Speaker ASo, like, extreme example of what it should be emotion wise is Jesus praying in Gethsemane, right in the garden, right before he dies.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ALike he's being put to death.
Speaker AHe sweats blood.
Speaker ALike that is not excessive.
Speaker AThat is the weight of the severity of the situation.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ALike, his emotion there was legitimate.
Speaker AIt was sincere.
Speaker AIt was where it should be.
Speaker AWhen I say excessive, I mean, like somebody cuts in front of you in the line and you go nuts.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AWhen you go crazy on them.
Speaker AI think a lot of times spiritual warfare happens, since it's more suggestive, like you were talking.
Speaker ALike it's more of that planted seed, that suggestion.
Speaker AI think a lot of times it's mostly that excessive, like, things make you madder than they should.
Speaker AThings turn your.
Speaker AYour emotions all kinds of which way.
Speaker ALike delighting at something that you shouldn't.
Speaker AYou know, those sorts of things.
Speaker ABecause that's really the opportunity set up of.
Speaker ANot like, for the example of this gas.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AYou waited too long to get gas.
Speaker AYou should not have waited till then to get gas.
Speaker AHowever, what the devil's gonna do there is be like, you should get upset about this.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AOr you should just blow off work.
Speaker AJust blow it off.
Speaker AYou know, like, there's things like that.
Speaker AI think that's the spiritual warfare in the midst of those situations that I would agree.
Speaker AI don't think the other is.
Speaker BI think our enemy takes advantage of situations that either that could be caused by us or even caused by God.
Speaker ASure.
Speaker BLike, he'll suggest that we get mad.
Speaker BHe'll suggest that we need to be.
Speaker AMore upset, that it's just okay.
Speaker AIt's okay to be completely upset about this.
Speaker AYou know, like.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AIt's okay to get angry about.
Speaker BJustification.
Speaker AJustification.
Speaker BThat's dangerous.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BActually.
Speaker BBut, yeah, I think.
Speaker BI think there is an element of.
Speaker BThat we can find in it.
Speaker BBut just because that we.
Speaker BIf you're gonna be late for work because you forgot to get gas, that's not necessarily a spiritual attack.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BIn itself.
Speaker AYou gotta be looking for the spiritual attacks around in it, within it.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BIt's not the fact that you did it.
Speaker AAnd actually, it's really just setting that golf ball on the tee.
Speaker AIt's like, all right, you're set up.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd so it's at that moment that we need to really make sure our armor is tight because things happen.
Speaker BAnd maybe they're for good reasons.
Speaker BAnd maybe they're.
Speaker BOr we just don't understand them.
Speaker BAnd maybe they're just because we messed up and that's all fine.
Speaker BBut then we gotta make sure that we tighten up that armor because it's real easy.
Speaker BI mean, I get really hard on myself if I know that I've done something dumb.
Speaker AWell.
Speaker AAnd see.
Speaker AAnd that.
Speaker AThat is the attack in the midst of it.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ALike, okay, so we screwed up, whatever.
Speaker ALike, admit it, Move on.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ALike, that's how we should react to those things.
Speaker ABut a lot of times we allow that attack to happen and we just get so frustrated and hate on ourselves so much and.
Speaker AOr on others.
Speaker AI mean, there's plenty of that.
Speaker AI mean, like, people get shot for cutting people off in traffic.
Speaker ALike the excessive craziness that happens, you know?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI mean, yeah, there's so many things that you just don't want to give the enemy a chance to play.
Speaker BReally.
Speaker BFor sure.
Speaker ASo, okay, so leading in that.
Speaker AThat leads into actually a question that.
Speaker AThat was sent in before that question, but I think it's a good flow.
Speaker ASo work in progress.
Speaker AT3K sent in two questions, sort of several times.
Speaker AI've heard people saying not today, Satan, when things aren't going the way they think it should be going.
Speaker ASo how would one know when it is an attack from Satan or a lesson from God for us to grow?
Speaker AI know that's where you were going earlier, because you and I have had these conversations before.
Speaker AWe may have even talked about on the podcast, but not in that way.
Speaker ASo how do you know when it's an attack from Satan or a lesson from God?
Speaker BOkay, so it can be difficult.
Speaker BFirst off, I want to kind of talk about the not today Satan thing.
Speaker BI think that's.
Speaker BIt's comical.
Speaker BI mean, number one, it's awesome.
Speaker BI love it when people say that.
Speaker BIt makes me laugh, especially when it's in the best context.
Speaker BThe thing is this.
Speaker BOn one hand, who are we to try to take on Satan?
Speaker BWe are no good at it.
Speaker BSo we call upon Jesus to take on Satan.
Speaker BThat's just a side note.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AHang on, hang on.
Speaker BEven Michael.
Speaker AHang on.
Speaker AResist the devil and he must flee.
Speaker BScripture says him, but we're not taking him on.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker AAnd neither is the statement not.
Speaker AI use it a lot.
Speaker ASo not today, Satan.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AI'm saying, like.
Speaker AI'm saying I say it a lot because not today, Satan is me resisting the devil.
Speaker AI'm not gonna let you have this one.
Speaker AYou're not.
Speaker AIt's not for you today.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BI'm feeling you.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BI'm not.
Speaker BLook, first off, I'm just.
Speaker BI'm just.
Speaker BI'm just kind of putting out a little.
Speaker BKind of pretty.
Speaker BWe're not actually trying to take him on ourselves.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BI mean, even Michael was called on Jesus.
Speaker BSo let's just.
Speaker BI just wanted to put that out in the forefront.
Speaker BAlthough, like I said, it is funny, it is interesting when you do recognize that spiritual warfare is happening or that you're getting tempted to do things.
Speaker BWhen you.
Speaker BTo take that cap and go, oh, not today.
Speaker BI think that's awesome.
Speaker BI love when people can feel that kind of thing going on.
Speaker BI think that's, that's, that's good to recognize that you've got your armor on at the moment.
Speaker BIt's good to be like, nope, this is not how this is going to go today.
Speaker ABut conversely on that, not everything's Satan's fault.
Speaker BNot everything is Satan's fault.
Speaker BYou know, the thing is, is that I love how she said, going the way the things they think it should be going, they think and I love it.
Speaker AIt's in quotes.
Speaker BSo, yeah, we often have an idea of what we think things are going to be like.
Speaker BAnd do people make plans and God laughs?
Speaker BActually, it says in the Bible that we think how our life is going to go and then it's God who actually plans our steps.
Speaker BSo we need to sometimes take a step back, get back in the back seat and realize that we're trying to take over the wheel that we didn't have any business touching at all.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo sometimes things don't go the way that you want them to go, or you had it thought out.
Speaker BThat's not necessarily spiritual warfare.
Speaker BSometimes things are just not going to work out.
Speaker BYou know, one of the things when we talked about prayer before, and I think we've talked about this, we did a whole thing on prayer, and Nick and I talked about this was a year ago or so.
Speaker BNick and I talked about how God answers prayer.
Speaker BAnd I always pray, drop it into four.
Speaker BHe dropped it into three.
Speaker BBut the two can kind of be combined.
Speaker BSometimes God answers prayer in a yes, sometimes he answers it in a no.
Speaker BSometimes it's a not yet, and sometimes it's a grow.
Speaker BYou got to grow into that.
Speaker BAsk sometimes, but we have a plan sometimes what we're asking and we don't realize sometimes when it's a no, that's just a no.
Speaker BSometimes you're not going to get it yet.
Speaker BIt's not for now.
Speaker BAnd sometimes you need to grow before you ask for something like that.
Speaker BAnd the only reason that's the biggest reason is like, in ministry, there's things that we ask to do and God goes, you're not ready for that.
Speaker BYou need to take it a step back.
Speaker BAnd I thought that's one of the biggest reasons that I'm like, I've recognized sometimes grow is an answer.
Speaker BYou need to grow into what you're just asking for.
Speaker BAnyway, that being said, just because the situation isn't going the way you want doesn't mean it's something demonic.
Speaker BIn fact, it could just mean one of two things.
Speaker BOne, it could mean that you did something dumb and it wasn't going to work out that way.
Speaker BOr two, God just.
Speaker BThat's not part of the plan and we got to be okay with that.
Speaker BDoesn't mean that's not when the attacks are going to happen.
Speaker BAs we just talked about.
Speaker BI think that's.
Speaker BHe loves to come.
Speaker BThe devil wants to come and play.
Speaker BHe wants to mess with us at that moment.
Speaker BHe wants us to get angry about it.
Speaker BHe wants us to get frustrated about it.
Speaker BHe wants us to even get angry and frustrated with God, you know, and it's easy to do that.
Speaker BLook, my wife and I are no strangers to thinking, even thinking that God wants something in our lives and then getting really confused, even frustrated, when that doesn't seem to be working out.
Speaker BAnd we look to him like, okay, but you.
Speaker BWe felt like you said this.
Speaker BSo what is that?
Speaker BMy wife has been in a place like that lately with some things where she's like, I think this is it.
Speaker BI'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker BShe's like, I feel like, okay.
Speaker BSo we go down a rabbit hole of chasing something, and it's like, that's not it.
Speaker BAnd that's really frustrating.
Speaker BDon't get me wrong.
Speaker BAnd it's confusing, but it doesn't necessarily mean that anything bad's happened.
Speaker BSometimes that's just not it.
Speaker BOr maybe it's not it yet, you know, because God puts things on our hearts that are going to happen.
Speaker BGod's things puts on our hearts that we can start to prepare for, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to happen right away.
Speaker BAnd then sometimes we just got to check our desires and start to ask ourselves, is this from God or is this something from our heart?
Speaker BAnd as we know, our heart can be deceitful, our heart can be selfish.
Speaker BOur heart can want things that we really have no business wanting.
Speaker BLike, I could go, God, I want a new car.
Speaker BAnd God's like, you don't need a new car.
Speaker BYeah, but I want.
Speaker BIt doesn't mean you need it.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker ASo, yeah, yeah, that's good.
Speaker AThat's really good practical advice for this.
Speaker AI think that.
Speaker ALet me, Let me, Let me retell a story that I think will help with some of this answer, because I think that a lot of times it's both.
Speaker AAnd so.
Speaker AAnd here's why.
Speaker ASo Joseph was given a dream.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AYou know, and it was given by God.
Speaker AAnd he was super excited about this dream.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd so he couldn't contain it.
Speaker AHe had to tell, you know, the people that were in the dream.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AAnd the devil was like, hey, guys, he's gonna be better than you.
Speaker AHe wants to be better than you.
Speaker AYou know, you should just.
Speaker AJust take him out, you know, like, just do something about it.
Speaker AYou guys.
Speaker AYou guys are the older brothers.
Speaker ALike, you can handle this.
Speaker AYou guys can do this thing.
Speaker ALike.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker AAnd so they took him and they chucked him in a well, right?
Speaker BAnd then they sold him.
Speaker AAnd then.
Speaker AAnd, well, hang on.
Speaker AI'm not there yet.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AThis is why they call it spiritual warfare, right?
Speaker ASo he's in a well, and they're like, we'll just leave him here to die right there.
Speaker AThey're at that point, their hearts are hardened enough.
Speaker AAnd then Judah was like, we probably shouldn't kill him.
Speaker AWhy don't we.
Speaker AWhy don't we sell him?
Speaker ALike, there's that battle within him.
Speaker AHe's like, that's a step too far.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker ALike, he's like, that's.
Speaker AWe've already done enough.
Speaker ALike, we shouldn't.
Speaker ASo let's sell him into slavery, right?
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo God spared his life, right?
Speaker ASo there's that.
Speaker AAnd then, like, he goes into slavery, ends up with Potiphar, right?
Speaker AAnd then.
Speaker ASo all this greatness is coming from Potiphar's house.
Speaker AYou know, he's managing it.
Speaker AHe's doing awesome.
Speaker AI mean, he.
Speaker AEverything is going well for him.
Speaker AAnd then Potiphar's wife, right, is like, the devil's like, hey, you can have anything you want.
Speaker AYou know, all you gotta do is put it out there.
Speaker AYou're in charge of this place.
Speaker AYou really run this household.
Speaker ASo Potiphar's wife tries to get him to sleep with her, and it's like, no.
Speaker AAnd Joseph runs off to the point of leaving his cloak behind, right?
Speaker ALike, he literally ran out of it.
Speaker ALike, so he leaves there, right?
Speaker AAnd then, of course, gets in trouble, right?
Speaker AThrown into prison, right?
Speaker AAnd so his life was spared, for one.
Speaker AI mean, that's a big deal.
Speaker AI mean, he could have been killed for that, you know, so then God's at work there, right?
Speaker AAnd all the while it's talking about how, you know, God's like, you know, the scripture says that he was, you know, seeking God and his eyes were on God.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo then he's in.
Speaker AHe's in prison, right.
Speaker ABummer place to be.
Speaker AAnd God gives these two guys visions.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd he's like, well, I can, you know, I can tell you what that.
Speaker AThat means.
Speaker AAnd they're like, oh, great.
Speaker AYou know, so he's.
Speaker AHe's getting this set up, right?
Speaker AAnd he's like, but you remember me, you know.
Speaker AYou know, when.
Speaker AAnd so he's like, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker AAnd so then all the things that he tells them, their dreams meant come, come to be.
Speaker AAnd they forget about him.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AThe.
Speaker AThe one that.
Speaker AThat didn't get killed forgets about him, right?
Speaker ASo he's spending this time in prison knowing that, well, God's got me, you know, it's gonna happen someday.
Speaker ASomething's gonna happen, you know, and that is just.
Speaker AThat is as simple as, hey, you know, just go on about your life, you know, that was the distraction.
Speaker AThat was the attack, right?
Speaker AAnd then all of a sudden, Pharaoh has this dream, these dreams that he can't.
Speaker ANobody can tell him what it is.
Speaker AAnd was it.
Speaker AWas it the cup bearer?
Speaker AWas it?
Speaker AWho was it?
Speaker AWho was it the.
Speaker BI think it was the cup bearer.
Speaker ASo he's like, yo, oh, yeah, there was this guy.
Speaker AYeah, I forgot this guy.
Speaker AAnd so God uses him then to, you know, relay that he's, you know, he's.
Speaker AHe can help with this.
Speaker AHe goes.
Speaker AHe helps.
Speaker AYou know, he tells him this is what's going to happen.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd then he gets put over all of Egypt.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd his brothers end up, you know, coming along.
Speaker AAnd the first dream that God had originally told him that he had gotten super excited about comes true.
Speaker AIt comes true.
Speaker ASo that's what happens in our life, right, Is it?
Speaker AOur life is spiritual warfare, Right.
Speaker AIt's not an instance.
Speaker AAnd I know that we've talked about it as though it's an instance a lot.
Speaker AAnd that's a battle, right?
Speaker ABut this is a war.
Speaker AWars are fought over a period of time.
Speaker AThere's battles within wars, right?
Speaker ASo our life is an ongoing war of spiritual warfare.
Speaker AAnd it happens to be very much like what Joseph's life is now.
Speaker ANot necessarily we're gonna be put over top of, you know, a whole nation or anything like that.
Speaker ABut sometimes the simplicity in the midst of it, right, is that it was, hey, God told me something and I'm super excited about it leads to somebody or something happening to where the devil sneaks in and just gives a little suggestion, you know, and is like, hey, this is.
Speaker AThis is how you get what you want and then it's that back and forth.
Speaker AYeah, back and forth.
Speaker AFighting.
Speaker AI mean it's not, it's not a one and done each situation like it is an ongoing thing throughout your life.
Speaker ASo just, just to.
Speaker AI love the story of Joseph because not only is it a back and forth warfare, but it takes place over a lot of years.
Speaker AIt's like 20 something years, 30 years, something like that somewhere in there.
Speaker AAnd it's like we look at things in the day to day, sometimes hour to hour mindset.
Speaker AAnd Joseph's this big grand thing that happened from him getting this dream and being sold into slavery to him being second in command of all of Egypt happened over 20 years.
Speaker AAnd we don't look at it with that distance.
Speaker ABut he had daily battles too.
Speaker ASo just keep your eyes on God in the midst of it.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd resist the devil and the whispers.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AThat are just suggestions.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd just because something's not going away doesn't mean it's.
Speaker BI mean, him tempting you to be angry about that.
Speaker BThat's probably him.
Speaker BBut just because something didn't go your way doesn't mean anything necessarily bad.
Speaker BSometimes it's for our good.
Speaker BI can tell you that there's some things that I'm glad that God didn't give me that I asked for when I asked for them.
Speaker BFor sure.
Speaker BThere's a song, I think it's a country song.
Speaker BI thank God for unanswered prayers.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd that's so real.
Speaker BOh my goodness.
Speaker BThere's been things that I thought I wanted and God said no.
Speaker BAnd I'm glad he didn't because what he had in line for me was so much better.
Speaker BSo much better.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI think that a big thing that ties several of these all together, it's just crazy that these are tying together so well.
Speaker ASo let me read the second half of that and then I'm going to tie it back to something else we talked about.
Speaker AFor example, if someone asks, prays for patience and then is presented with a situation that requires much patience, wouldn't that be an opportunity to grow in the area where you need growth instead of just blaming Satan for the situation at hand?
Speaker AAnd I say, yeah, totally, that's exactly what that is.
Speaker ABut expect Satan to try to show up in the midst of that because he doesn't want you to grow.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ASo there's that.
Speaker ABut I want to point back to like, it's important to remember what you're praying for.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ALike, I think journaling can help that.
Speaker ABut like when you're praying for something and you're asking for something intentionally, like, you need to also have the mindset of looking for that to show up.
Speaker BYeah, you need to look for it.
Speaker BAnd I think a really important question you need to continue to ask yourself.
Speaker BIf you're looking to grow in patience or kindness or whatever it is, keep asking yourself, what's the lesson here?
Speaker BOnce again, it takes taking a step back and really seeing more of the situation than with our blinders on.
Speaker BOnly in our perspective.
Speaker ASomebody has been wording that question just a little bit different a lot in my ear lately.
Speaker AAnd that is, where is God in this?
Speaker ANot just what's the lesson, but where is God in this?
Speaker AAnd I was crazy because I was gonna bring that up too, but it's such a serious thing.
Speaker AYou gotta be intentionally asking those things, you know, things.
Speaker BYeah, even things that feel so out of our control, which is, you know, the reality of most things.
Speaker BBut, like, you know, sometimes the world just feels like it's crashing down around us.
Speaker BAnd sometimes the lesson is like, you just need to learn how to be trusting and faithful in that time.
Speaker BAnd then maybe more lessons will come.
Speaker BBut take what you can get and then just think about it.
Speaker BIf you're going to, you know, some of the easiest ways to see what God's doing is to see it in the rearview mirror, to see what he's done.
Speaker BAnd that's great for learning is to look and for also that rainy day file.
Speaker BBut also, like, it's good to see what God did and see how he did it and try to learn as much from that as possible.
Speaker BBut you don't want to live there.
Speaker BYour faith can't live in the past.
Speaker BIt can learn from the past, but it doesn't want to live in the past.
Speaker BYou want to try to live as in the present as possible.
Speaker BAnd you also want to be thinking to what God's doing moving forward as possible.
Speaker BWe don't want to get too caught up in the future because God says tomorrow will worry about itself, but try to be as in tune with God in the moment as you can.
Speaker BPast is great to learn from, but you can't live there anymore.
Speaker BYou have to keep moving forward.
Speaker BSo take what you can learn from that and try to figure out how to apply it to today.
Speaker AYeah, absolutely.
Speaker ANot like pirates, right?
Speaker AYou take what you can and you give back.
Speaker ASorry.
Speaker AAnyways, so, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker AAnd I'm excited to get to our final question just because, like, I am genuinely interested in some of your answers as well, and just to see what God lays on my heart to say as well.
Speaker ASo hopefully, hopefully all of that kind of flowed together really well.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AOverlapped a bunch, but it did.
Speaker ABut I think that all those questions kind of laid.
Speaker ALaid in to each other in a good progressive way, so.
Speaker AAnd not like the bad progressive way.
Speaker AOkay, so the next question is KPrincess311 when you encounter.
Speaker AHuh.
Speaker BI wonder if that's the band 3 11.
Speaker BJust wondering.
Speaker AI know there was a band 311.
Speaker AWhat?
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AI don't know who they are.
Speaker AWhen you encounter a Christian that has been away from the church for several years and is doubting their worth, what are some scriptures and other readings you all would suggest?
Speaker AYo, maybe not a reading, but you could listen to this spiritual warfare series starting with the Armor of God.
Speaker AI mean, like the Bible.
Speaker AThe whole thing is about the fact that Jesus came to reconcile us because we are his image bearers.
Speaker AI mean, that's what the whole book's about, right?
Speaker AIt is about us not having worth and Jesus saying, here, have mine.
Speaker ALike, here, you can have my worth.
Speaker AYou bear my image.
Speaker AI love you enough that I'm choosing to give my life up and I don't have to.
Speaker ALike, there is no, I don't know, there is no greater worth that you could have than the fact that the God of all creation came here in human form simply to give you his worth.
Speaker BYeah, I mean that's.
Speaker BIt's so good.
Speaker BI mean there's probably so many verses.
Speaker BOne of the first ones that came to mind, I'll read a bit of, but just trying to figure out where I want to start.
Speaker BI'll start there.
Speaker BThink about scriptures like, and that's not what this is.
Speaker BScriptures that talk about how special you are even before you got here.
Speaker BFor instance, God talks about he knew you before you.
Speaker AHe knit you together, right?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd he formed you in your mother's womb.
Speaker BYou've been important since before you were conceived.
Speaker BYou've been important, important since before you were born.
Speaker BYou have a purpose and you're not an accident.
Speaker BYou were on purpose.
Speaker BOur Lord knows you by name.
Speaker BHe's known you by name before.
Speaker BYou were given a name by us anyway.
Speaker BHe knows you, so that is something that's always important to understand.
Speaker BYou were important enough not only for him to form, but to die for and to offer Himself as a sacrifice.
Speaker BThat's important in itself.
Speaker BBut what I.
Speaker BWhat first thing came to my mind was the section from Matthew 6.
Speaker BBecause they were asking, you know, what what scriptures?
Speaker BMatthew 6 is so amazing.
Speaker BIt's part of, you know, Jesus's great sermon.
Speaker BBut I'll start at verse 25 into about 34.
Speaker BYeah, I'll just start.
Speaker BI'll go all the way out.
Speaker BSo 30:25 says, therefore I tell you, don't worry about your life, what you will eat, what you will drink, or about your body, or what you will wear.
Speaker BIsn't life more than food and the body more than clothing?
Speaker BConsider the birds of the sky.
Speaker BThey don't sow or reap or gather into barns, yet your Heavenly Father feeds them.
Speaker BAren't you worth more than they?
Speaker BCan any of you add one moment to his lifespan by worrying?
Speaker BAnd why do you worry about clothes?
Speaker BObserve how the wildflowers of the field grow.
Speaker BThey don't labor or spin thread.
Speaker BYet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was adorned like one of these.
Speaker BIf that's how God clothes the grass of the field which is here today and thrown into the furnace tomorrow, won't he do much more for you, you of little faith?
Speaker BSo don't worry saying, what shall we eat?
Speaker BOr what will we drink?
Speaker BOr what will we wear?
Speaker BFor the Gentiles eagerly seek all these things.
Speaker BAnd your Heavenly Father knows what you need, that you need them.
Speaker BBut first seek the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things will be provided for you.
Speaker BTherefore, don't worry about tomorrow, because tomorrow will worry about itself.
Speaker BEach day has enough trouble of its own.
Speaker BIt's kind of tied into what I talked about earlier, but it's that.
Speaker BI mean, God knows exactly that we need something.
Speaker BWe're more important than the birds.
Speaker BWe're more important than the flowers.
Speaker BGod knows this.
Speaker BYou know, we worry about clothes.
Speaker BGod clothed us from as early as Adam and Eve.
Speaker BWe worry about food.
Speaker BHe gave manna in the desert when there was no food.
Speaker BDrink.
Speaker BHe gave water from a rock when there was no water.
Speaker BGod is the God that can make it happen.
Speaker BAnd what we have to do is just stay faithful to Him.
Speaker BThe thing is that you are so special to him that as long as you.
Speaker BHe just wants you to be in relationship with Him.
Speaker BAnd he will make sure everything else is sorted out.
Speaker BAnd ultimately we can also know.
Speaker BWe can also know.
Speaker BAnd Romans 8 will tell us this, that nothing that we can go through in this life is going to compare at all to what we have coming to us.
Speaker BThe inheritance we have come in our eternity with God.
Speaker BNothing that can happen on this side of that.
Speaker BNothing good.
Speaker BSo doesn't Matter how good it is, and nothing bad, doesn't matter how bad it is, is going to compare to the glory that we have ahead of us.
Speaker BAnd with that hope in mind, if you're important enough to achieve that, if God has got that plan for you, then that should help you get through a little bit.
Speaker AWhat was the reference on that again?
Speaker BOn the verse?
Speaker BYeah, that would be Matthew 6, verses, 25 to 34.
Speaker ACool.
Speaker AJust so that they have it and pass that along.
Speaker ASome people may respond with, yeah, but I've done XYZ or I don't have enough faith or whatever.
Speaker AAnd, man, how many times did Jesus tell his own disciples, ye of little faith, right?
Speaker ALike, and still pressed on with them and decided that, you know what?
Speaker AThese are the guys that are going to build up the church for the future.
Speaker BI'll deal this second part first.
Speaker BThe little faith thing.
Speaker BGod has told us what he can do with a little faith, right?
Speaker ALittle faith moves mountains.
Speaker BLittle faith can take over your whole garden.
Speaker BLike, give him your little faith and see what he can do with it.
Speaker BAll right, so the idea that I don't have enough faith, I only have a little faith, give it to him, then let him multiply it.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker BHonestly, that's the bet on God, right?
Speaker BBet on him.
Speaker BHe's gonna.
Speaker BHe will.
Speaker BHe's.
Speaker BHe's always good.
Speaker BWhat was the other thing you said?
Speaker AYou don't know what I've done.
Speaker BWhat I've done?
Speaker BOh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BLet's take a look.
Speaker BOkay, let's not look into your life.
Speaker BLet's look into the Bible and talk about the fact that God has used murderers and drunks and adulterers and.
Speaker AAnd that was all before what, Exodus?
Speaker AI mean, like.
Speaker BI mean, really?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BHe used people from all walks of life that have done all kinds of things, even.
Speaker BHe's even used people that have persecuted his church and killed his followers.
Speaker BHe can use you.
Speaker BYour faith, even if it's little, is enough.
Speaker BWhat you've done in your life can be forgiven.
Speaker BIt's time to turn back to him and stop thinking about these other things.
Speaker BThose other things are lies.
Speaker BThose other things are distractions.
Speaker BThose other things are weightless and pointless.
Speaker BGod is what you need.
Speaker BYou need to turn to the Lord and give him what you got.
Speaker BIf it's what you've done, give it to him.
Speaker BIf it's what you have and you think it's a little bit of faith, give it to him and he'll show you how much faith you really can have in your life.
Speaker BThat's a multiplication.
Speaker BThat's God's impossible math.
Speaker BIt is an incredible thing to behold.
Speaker BLook, if you want him to rock your world, that's hell.
Speaker A400 years of generations is what.
Speaker AGod withheld judgment even on the nations that he wiped out, right?
Speaker ALike he withheld judgment for a long time on generations worth of people.
Speaker AWhat you've done doesn't even compare to what generations of people do.
Speaker AYou know, you can turn your life around at any point, right?
Speaker AHe's there.
Speaker AHe's right.
Speaker AHe was there for them.
Speaker AHe was waiting.
Speaker AHe wanted them to just be like, hey, sorry, I screwed up.
Speaker AYeah, that's all.
Speaker AThat's all he wanted.
Speaker AAnd then it would have been right as rain.
Speaker AAnd so, like his patience and his love and his grace and his mercy is so big that whatever you've done, especially if you're in Christ doesn't matter.
Speaker AIt doesn't matter because it's not your righteousness anyways.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AIt's not your worth anyways.
Speaker AHe sees Jesus.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIt's really important to remember this.
Speaker BI mean, we get so wrapped up in this other stuff, and it's distraction.
Speaker BIt's cluttering is what it is.
Speaker BAnd it's time to kill the clutter.
Speaker BIt's time to just get rid of it.
Speaker AOoh, maybe that could be our next series.
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker BKill the clutter.
Speaker AKill the clutter.
Speaker AI like it.
Speaker BI'm giving him bad idea.
Speaker AWell, maybe that's not a bad idea.
Speaker AIt was your idea.
Speaker BIt wasn't necessary.
Speaker BIt was just a thought.
Speaker BBut yeah, I mean, seriously, it's important, you know, dealing with students, for instance, some of them, even at their young ages, have been through a lot of.
Speaker BAnd they feel marked by it.
Speaker BThey feel kind of trapped by it.
Speaker BI'll tell you what, when you can reach in a student's life and help them connect to the idea that they are not those things and that their identity is not in those things.
Speaker BTheir identity is in God.
Speaker BAnd what God actually thinks about them is that he loves them and he doesn't.
Speaker BYeah, those things he didn't love, but he loves you.
Speaker BAnd he wants to walk forward with you.
Speaker BAnd out of that, I mean, there's a new spark that happens.
Speaker BThat is.
Speaker BThat's the kind of spark God loves right there.
Speaker BAnd I tell you what, doing that with a student is amazing.
Speaker BI don't know why adults make it so difficult.
Speaker BWhy we get so stubborn in our own ways that we feel like we should have all the answers and you might.
Speaker BI think that's why when you talk about the Bible come to.
Speaker BLet the children come to me, people, they should be like a child.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BPut away that stuff that says, you should know everything.
Speaker BYou can do it all on your own and go to God like a kid and go, well, let me discover God for the first time.
Speaker AThat is good.
Speaker AWe do have to.
Speaker ASo maybe that's the next thing we talk about.
Speaker ATo be honest, like, a lot of people toss that whole, like, oh, we're supposed to be like a child.
Speaker AWell, yes, but it also.
Speaker AScripture also tells us that when I became a man, I put away childish things.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker AAnd that's two different things.
Speaker ABut I want to at some day.
Speaker ANot today.
Speaker AYeah, not today.
Speaker AI want someday maybe go over those differences because I feel like so often we adopt all of it as a child or all of it as an adult, and there's different aspects.
Speaker AThe thing I want to comment on with.
Speaker AWith that is that whenever you ask a child a question that they don't know the answer to, generally they're like, I don't know.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd in my ordination training.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ABecause I had this whole long, big thing that I had to go through as a part of the Baptist church.
Speaker AI love you guys still, but it's a thing.
Speaker AWas that it's okay to say I don't know.
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker AAnd then go seek the answer.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ALike, that's the thing, is that it's 100% okay to say I don't know to a question.
Speaker AYou don't know.
Speaker AIn fact, it is way better to say I don't know than to make something up.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo when it comes to, like, the childlike thing, like, it's like, okay to not know everything.
Speaker BIt's okay.
Speaker AYou know, it's okay.
Speaker AIt's okay to not know all the answers.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd still have faith.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ALike that the things are true.
Speaker AYou don't have to understand it.
Speaker AThat's hard.
Speaker AThat's hard coming from me, like, because I'm one of those people that there's logic for everything.
Speaker AAnd there is, but God has all the information.
Speaker AOnly he knows the logic behind all of it.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker BAnd we got to stop thinking that we have that we're going to know all the answers, because we're not.
Speaker BBut also to, you know, the pressure.
Speaker BThe pressure.
Speaker BIt's not supposed to be pressure.
Speaker BIt's supposed to be joy.
Speaker BStop letting it be pressure.
Speaker BIt's not meant to be that.
Speaker BLet it be joyful.
Speaker BHey, I know this or I don't.
Speaker BBut, you know, I'D be really happy to look into that.
Speaker BIt's not about being pressured.
Speaker AIt's not supposed to give you anxiety.
Speaker AIt's not supposed to give you stress.
Speaker AIt's not supposed to bring you down.
Speaker AIt's not supposed to give you negative emotions.
Speaker AIt's not supposed to create chaos.
Speaker AYou know, like, it's.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AThere's order, there's love, there's joy, there's peace, there's patience, there's kindness, gentleness, faithfulness, self control in the midst of the things that God wants for you.
Speaker AAnd so like, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker AHe doesn't want it to be something that's like, oh, my gosh, this is the worst thing I've ever had to go through, you know, like, because he came so that we might have joy, right?
Speaker AHave life and have it abundantly.
Speaker BThere is something amazing about though, instead of making something up or trying to figure it out on the spot, there's something amazing about if someone's genuinely coming and asking you a question because they want to know, not because they're trying to trap you or be how some people can be.
Speaker BThat's an amazing moment for you not to know the answer.
Speaker BThat is actually an amazing moment because now you get to go on a journey together.
Speaker BYou get to take that journey together.
Speaker BHey.
Speaker BOkay, I'm not sure, but let's look into this.
Speaker BAnd then you get to share the experience of the finding out, the discovery, the revelation, whatever it is, you get to share in that.
Speaker BIt becomes something you can not only put in your toolbox and help them understand as well as yourself, but now that's a shared experience.
Speaker BYou're connected now.
Speaker BIt's an amazing thing.
Speaker BAnd, you know, don't look down on that.
Speaker AYeah, it's good.
Speaker AAll right, before we move to our next question.
Speaker ADid you hear Welch's grape juice died?
Speaker AI found it's ghost.
Speaker BOh, my gosh.
Speaker AOkay, so that came to my head.
Speaker AI had to say it.
Speaker AAnyways.
Speaker AI'm drinking ghost energy drink and it's a Welch's grape juice flavor.
Speaker AAll right, so it's dumb, but sometimes we gotta break things up.
Speaker AWhat from akprincess311?
Speaker AMaybe it is the ban.
Speaker AMaybe it's a bullet type.
Speaker AI don't know because I don't know guns, but AK sounds like a gun thing.
Speaker ASo anyways, so there's my question to you, AK Princess311.
Speaker AWhat is behind your name?
Speaker BI'm interested.
Speaker AI am too.
Speaker AThe last one today is what is in your rainy day file, Right?
Speaker ALike So first off, Matt said something to me whenever he read it.
Speaker AAnd that's such a personal question.
Speaker BIt really is.
Speaker AIt's such a personal question.
Speaker AAnd you know what?
Speaker AIt's incumbent upon us to share those things.
Speaker AYeah, it really is.
Speaker ABecause those rainy day files, if we hold on to them, they're just edifying us.
Speaker ABut everything that we do is supposed to edify the body, right?
Speaker AAnd so I think it's a great question, and I think it's something that we all should be doing more often, because if we're sharing the things that God has done for us, that he just showed up in our hard times, that then we don't have time to complain about the hard times.
Speaker BYou know what's in my rainy day file, There are so many things, and they vary from, like, larger situations to even small, very, very small moments.
Speaker BSo they can be as small as, like, rainy day file stuff to me can be like, if I just gave a sermon and somebody's like, man, you explained it in a way that I could understand.
Speaker BThat goes in the rainy day file.
Speaker BLike, I'm like, I love that.
Speaker BThat is actually probably what I want to hear more than anything else.
Speaker BOr, hey, that hit me in a way you just don't even know.
Speaker BGreat rainy day file.
Speaker BRecently, a new one came in.
Speaker BSomebody told me that when I preached, it gave them goosebumps in a good way.
Speaker BAnd I thought, I've never heard that one.
Speaker BRainy day file, that's good.
Speaker BBut also, I mean, it's things that God does.
Speaker BI love seeing God move sometimes.
Speaker BIt's not even something that happened to me.
Speaker BIt's something that I've observed.
Speaker BSo instance I found there was a kid I knew.
Speaker BHis name is Chris.
Speaker BAnd when I met him, he wasn't doing very well for himself.
Speaker BHe was making a lot of bad decisions.
Speaker BEven his appearance was that he wasn't a desirable person to even kind of look upon, so to speak.
Speaker BAnd I think he was involved in maybe some drugs and such like that he encountered God in a way that radically changed him from the inside out.
Speaker BAnd he.
Speaker BEven his appearance, like, he cut his hair, wore completely different clothes.
Speaker BGod just completely changed him in ways that I never would have saw coming.
Speaker BAnd his life now is completely unrecognizable.
Speaker BAnd I watched him even be able to handle things like his mom passed away, unfortunately.
Speaker BBut, you know, he handled it so much better than he probably would have back then.
Speaker BAnd that is a rainy day file thing for me, because that's something like I could.
Speaker BI saw God Work.
Speaker BThe time when he saved my wife, definitely in the rainy day file, the time that he told me that my daughter was coming.
Speaker BRainy day file, like, it's.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BAnything that I can.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BAny revelation, big or small, can go in there.
Speaker BAnything that's encouraging.
Speaker BI'll tell you something.
Speaker BSome things that are in a rainy day file, when it comes to students I have, I'll give you two from up north, and I'll give you one from down here, first one up north.
Speaker BThere was a kid who was introduced to me as a troublemaker.
Speaker BAnd I recognized that, yeah, he's causing trouble, but a lot of kids are looking to him.
Speaker BHe's got power, he's got sway.
Speaker BAnd so I went to him and instead of condemning him, as people continued to do, going, oh, man, you just need to get together and just causing trouble, I was like, hey, man, do you realize that you're a leader?
Speaker BAnd he never had anybody say that to him before.
Speaker BI said, yeah, they're looking to you.
Speaker BThat's why you get them off topic is that you're a leader of this group.
Speaker BAnd I said, man, you could use that power for good.
Speaker BYou really could.
Speaker BYou could do amazing things.
Speaker BI don't think he ever had somebody talk to him like that.
Speaker BAll that to say that I lost touch with that kid.
Speaker BAnd then years later, I run into him and he is leading Bible studies at his grandfather's church.
Speaker BSome time went on, he told me he felt called to ministry.
Speaker BAnd then some time went on, he preached in his grandfather's church.
Speaker BAnd I was like, wow, that is a rainy day.
Speaker BThat is God going from one direction to another.
Speaker BAnother one was as simple as sometimes you just don't know the impact you're making.
Speaker BUntil later.
Speaker BWhen we were leaving to come down here, there was a student who, I mean, I spent time around, I tried pouring into them, and it was really hard to read where I stood with this kid.
Speaker BShe was just very quiet.
Speaker BAnd so it was really hard to gauge, you know, what kind of impact you had.
Speaker BAnd so when we left, we had kind of a goodbye thing and she came and gave me a gift she had.
Speaker BIt was like this little felt craft.
Speaker BShe took felt and she crafted me a little Bob Ross.
Speaker BShe knows I love Bob Ross the painter.
Speaker BAnd it's at my desk right now.
Speaker BAnd I promised her the one.
Speaker BShe gave it to me.
Speaker BThis is going to my desk and I'm going to hold it forever.
Speaker BBut she gave me this thing and then broke into tears and then just grabbed Me and hugged me for a long time.
Speaker BAnd obviously I hug her back and I'm almost brought to tears.
Speaker BIt's hard for me.
Speaker BBut that was an amazing moment where I was like, wow.
Speaker BI didn't even realize.
Speaker BIt was so amazing.
Speaker BI will cherish that memory forever.
Speaker BAnd I love thinking about that when I see that little doll sitting to the side of my desk.
Speaker BIt's only about this big.
Speaker BIt's a little felt thing, but that's one.
Speaker BAnd then down here, honestly, let me choose.
Speaker BMy brain just gave me a bunch at once.
Speaker BI'll tell you this one.
Speaker BThere's a student who last year we took to move, and I had been trying so hard.
Speaker BAnd this isn't a me thing, this is totally a God thing.
Speaker BAnd everything's a God thing.
Speaker BBut so don't think I'm trying to put myself into anything.
Speaker BBut there was a kid that I felt like I just needed.
Speaker BI wasn't satisfied with him pulling away from the group.
Speaker BHe was constantly pulling away from the group, pulling away so quiet, didn't want to be involved with anything.
Speaker BAnd I was like, come on.
Speaker BNo, there's more to this.
Speaker BAnd the kid later admitted to me that he's like, he just wouldn't.
Speaker BEvery time you saw me, you just had to say something.
Speaker BEvery time you saw me, you just wouldn't let me just stand by myself.
Speaker BAnd I was like, no, I wanted you in.
Speaker BBut he went on move and he didn't even want to go.
Speaker BHe heard it might be fun, and then he was really resistant and he thought he was going to have a terrible time, but then he didn't.
Speaker BGod met him on that trip in a way that he didn't see coming.
Speaker BNot only did he open up, I mean, in the first major way I had ever seen this kid open up, but he is so different now.
Speaker BYou know, he came back just raving about the trip.
Speaker BHe went on this year's trip and had another amazing experience, which was.
Speaker BI was, like, unsure if that was going to happen, but he did.
Speaker BAnd now he's talking about maybe he is called to ministry.
Speaker BAnd I'm looking at this kid like, wow, God did this.
Speaker BHe took the kid that didn't.
Speaker BThat thought he was not going to be part of the group, that thought that he had nothing to say, that thought he didn't want to even be a part of it to a degree, and flipped him upside down.
Speaker BThat's gonna stay with me forever.
Speaker AYeah, those are good.
Speaker AI got a few that are near and dear one's recent Obviously, most of you guys have heard a little bit of my story with my work thing.
Speaker AGod was working through frustrations in one other family's life and, and also in mine.
Speaker AAnd it converged into God's plan of getting me into this laser engraving thing.
Speaker ABut then also, like, every time I was like, okay, God, but I need this.
Speaker AHe was like, okay, here you go.
Speaker AIt's like, okay, you know.
Speaker AWell, we weren't even looking for a new car with Lizzie's car.
Speaker AThat was just a simple, hey, thanks for following me.
Speaker AI don't know what else to call it.
Speaker AI mean, it's God's blessing, right?
Speaker AAnd then I was like, okay, I need a truck, because I'm having to have all of the pieces of everything cut there because I can't get it home, right?
Speaker AAnd I was like, okay, here's a truck.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd not only that, but like, selling the vehicles, often in times in which we're just a little short, you know, and just being the right.
Speaker ARight amount of money, you know, and.
Speaker AAnd also being able to bless other people with who just in those moments needed vehicles as well, and.
Speaker AAnd that sort of thing.
Speaker ASo that's one of them.
Speaker AAnother one is, my grandmother was given.
Speaker AThis is a long time ago when I was like, 16, 17, she was given six months to live.
Speaker AAnd she laughed and said, I'll go when God.
Speaker AGod takes me.
Speaker AAnd she lived 11 years, like, or 10 years or something like that after that.
Speaker AAnd so it was one of those things that, like, it's something that reminds me that God's got me.
Speaker AHe's gonna take me when he takes me, I don't have to worry.
Speaker AAnd that brings me joy.
Speaker ABut another thing is something I haven't shared, didn't ask permission to share it.
Speaker AI'm just gonna share it.
Speaker ASo for about 20 ish years before this happened, I had struggled with a pretty severe pornography addiction.
Speaker AAnd I finally had gotten into a group where I was working with some guys, trying to, you know, get out of it and fight the struggle or whatever.
Speaker AAnd I finally decided that I was gonna tell my wife because my wife had no idea.
Speaker AAnd so what's crazy is she had just started.
Speaker ASo she.
Speaker AI had been in discipleship group for like two years, and she then started a discipleship group.
Speaker AAnd so this was like a year, year and a half after she had started her discipleship group.
Speaker AAnd they had been going through.
Speaker ALet me back up.
Speaker ASo I had finally, you know, I finally decided somebody was pushing me, pushing me, pushing me, pushing me to tell Tell my wife.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd I finally said, okay, I'm just gonna do it, you know, and see what happens.
Speaker AI was terrified.
Speaker AYou can think of any number of things that could possibly run through someone's head.
Speaker AAnd I thought it like it.
Speaker AI was.
Speaker AI was completely just scared out of my mind.
Speaker ASo I go to her and she says, how can I help?
Speaker AThat was her response.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ALike it was none of the things.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd so what's crazy is she had been.
Speaker AAnd this ties.
Speaker AThis is.
Speaker APut a great bow on the thing.
Speaker AShe had been doing a study with her ladies on spiritual warfare.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd God had just prepared her for that moment.
Speaker AAnd so God knows what we're gonna go through.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd what all the people around us need to be able for us to go through it.
Speaker ASo spiritual warfare is an ongoing thing, but God is in the midst of it, and we can't forget that.
Speaker AAnd he is the only thing stopping us from being completely destroyed.
Speaker ASo as far as worth, as far as where he's working, whose fault it is, all of that.
Speaker AGod is in the center of everything in that.
Speaker AAnd it's not asking the.
Speaker AThe situation, whose side are you on?
Speaker ABut rather asking yourself, whose side are you going to be on?
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ASo in the midst of spiritual warfare, know that God is in control and he wants to turn everything that the enemy is throwing at you into something good.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo that's what I got.
Speaker AThat's the answers to your questions.
Speaker AI'd love to know what's in your guys's rainy day files.
Speaker ALike, for those of you who responded.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd since there were only three of you guys that responded, I think I'm gonna give something to each of you.
Speaker ASo we'll work that out.
Speaker AI know two of the three of you personally and kind of know the other one.
Speaker ASo thank you for being so in tune with us, for giving us drive, for giving.
Speaker AGiving some confirmation to what we're doing here.
Speaker AAnd man, just stay strong, you know, be courageous in the midst of the battle because we win.
Speaker BWe do win.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AKnow that you are worth more than.
Speaker BThe birds and the flowers.
Speaker ABirds and the flowers.
Speaker ASo, like, share.
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Speaker BThank you for coming on this journey with us.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd who knows what we'll talk about next.
Speaker BI don't even know.
Speaker AMaybe we'll have a random day, random pull day, so we can prepare for the next.
Speaker AWhatever.
Speaker AMaybe we'll see.
Speaker ABut thanks for coming and God bless.
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