Welcome to Barbecue Nation with JT and Leanne.
Speaker AAfter hours, the conversation that continued after the show was done.
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Speaker AAll righty, tighty DIYs, here we go.
Speaker AIt's after hours here on Barbecue Nation.
Speaker AI'm JT along with Ms. Whippen.
Speaker AWe'd like to thank the folks at Painted Hills Natural beef and also Ms. Whippen and her pig powder there today, we've got in the hot seat, so to speak, Tina Cannon from Tina Cannon Cooks.
Speaker AYou've seen her on Netflix and the Food Channel and Discovery and all those.
Speaker AThey're all second to Barbecue Nation.
Speaker ABut we.
Speaker AWe do what we can here.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AWe'll start with something easy.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AIf you could cook and then cook.
Speaker ACook four and then dine with a historical figure, who would it be and what would be on the menu?
Speaker BA historical figure.
Speaker AThey can be alive or dead.
Speaker AWe can go dig them up.
Speaker AIt doesn't matter.
Speaker BYeah, well, you know, historical to some people may be, you know, different.
Speaker BCan it be because I love Elvis.
Speaker CThat can be Elvis.
Speaker BOkay, let's go with Elvis, because, you know, we Southerners, we love our Elvis.
Speaker BAnd I would fix him actually a dessert, too.
Speaker BBesides, I would do pulled pork ribs, homemade biscuits, and I would do.
Speaker BI would actually make a dessert because I do have a bread pudding that's banana, peanut butter, chocolate, and he would love it.
Speaker BAnd you know another reason Elvis is because he's non controversial.
Speaker AYeah, there you go.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker CNow, that's a good person.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AOkay, Tina, what's the worst, absolute worst thing you've ever eaten?
Speaker BOh, haggis.
Speaker CThat used to be one of our questions.
Speaker CHave you ever eaten haggis?
Speaker AOh, really?
Speaker BOh, my God.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CIt used to be a question.
Speaker BI didn't even know that's what's bad.
Speaker BI didn't even know because I wouldn't have tasted it if I would have known.
Speaker BAnd I've actually had it more than once, y'.
Speaker AAll.
Speaker BDo you know you can get it in a can?
Speaker CYeah, I. I just can't even.
Speaker AWe use it for landfill up here.
Speaker ABut anyway, it's.
Speaker BYou can use it for crab bait, Leanne.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CYeah, you could.
Speaker CYeah, you could.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker AWould you recommend a career like yours to somebody that's just starting out?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BOkay, I would.
Speaker BBecause if you love It.
Speaker BYou know, when you.
Speaker BIf you do.
Speaker BYou know that old saying, if you do what you love, you never work.
Speaker BYeah, it's true.
Speaker BI mean, I come home tired, sweaty kitchen.
Speaker BI mean, I have days in the kitchen.
Speaker BIt's 105 degrees, you know, but I feel.
Speaker BStill when I get home, I don't feel.
Speaker BOther than being tired, but I feel that I've done something for other people and not just myself.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd that makes me feel good.
Speaker BSo if you love something, do it.
Speaker AHave you ever come across a food item that you just could not master to cook?
Speaker AIt can be baking, barbecuing, you know, whatever you want, sous vide.
Speaker AI don't care.
Speaker BOh, you know, I want to contest sous viden turkey.
Speaker BSo I can't say that.
Speaker BI would probably say tongue.
Speaker BYeah, I just can't.
Speaker BYou know, maybe I just can't get past the peeling and all that.
Speaker BIt's either that and liver.
Speaker BIt's a tie because I either get it pasty, I don't like it, or it's not done enough, and it's tough.
Speaker BSo any liver?
Speaker BChicken just put liver.
Speaker BThat's any liver.
Speaker BAnybody's liver.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AIf you could.
Speaker AIf you could teach a politician to barbecue or cook, who would it be?
Speaker AAnd you're kind of in the hot seat down there in Georgia right now with all your politicians.
Speaker BYes, we are.
Speaker BYou know, I think I would attempt to teach Trump how to barbecue, because I can assure you he's probably never even boiled an egg.
Speaker AI probably thought, I bet you're right.
Speaker BAnd that's not a political statement, whether you like him or not, because I could walk you out to my pool right now, and I have two floats in my pool.
Speaker BOne is of one politician, and one is another, and I make them fight in the pool all the time.
Speaker AIf we declared you supreme ruler of barbecue for one week, just one week, what would you, as supreme ruler, decree?
Speaker BThat everybody has to eat barbecue every Saturday.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AThat's the first time.
Speaker BI won't take the fish Friday away from some people.
Speaker BSo we'll pick Saturday.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AWhat was the absolute best day in your life so far?
Speaker BWell, I could pick one, but it better be when I got married, right?
Speaker AThat's up to you.
Speaker AIt's up to you.
Speaker BYou know, I've had.
Speaker BYou know, I've had so many, like, really great days, and I don't think.
Speaker BI honestly don't think I could pick one, because one would be like a barbecue event.
Speaker BYou know, what was the best day?
Speaker BAnd then and that would probably be world food or winning the Georgia championship.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYou know, another one would be like, when we bought this house, because it's like a compound here, you know, there.
Speaker BI could not pick one.
Speaker BOkay, that's.
Speaker AThat's fair.
Speaker BIf you had a lot of good ones.
Speaker AWell, good.
Speaker AGood.
Speaker CVery good.
Speaker AWhat's your absolute.
Speaker AWhat?
Speaker AWhat's your absolute.
Speaker AOh, oh.
Speaker ATurn on the lights.
Speaker AThey're.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BDid that help or does that work?
Speaker CNo, that's good.
Speaker AIt's fine.
Speaker CIt's good.
Speaker AIt's fine.
Speaker AWhat is.
Speaker AWhat is your absolute, Absolute.
Speaker AWhat's your absolute favorite non barbecue food or dish?
Speaker BVeal with morels.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker CI love morels.
Speaker CI like going morel hunting.
Speaker BI can't find any around my house.
Speaker BI look and look.
Speaker BI find, like, other types of mushrooms, like chanterelles grow like crazy here and a few other, you know, lions.
Speaker BBut some other ones grow hens and chicks.
Speaker BI'm trying to think of some of the other ones, but I can never find morels.
Speaker BThat would be like, a dream of mine to go.
Speaker CIt's amazing.
Speaker CI've done it a lot.
Speaker AWell, when you come up to Oregon, even though we have, like, zero time in the production schedule, Leanne will take you mushroom hunting.
Speaker CI would love it if you could.
Speaker AErase one mistake from history.
Speaker AHistory.
Speaker ANot just yours, Tina, but any history.
Speaker AWhat would it be and why?
Speaker BSlavery.
Speaker BAnd it shouldn't of any.
Speaker BBecause it's been slavery of any kind, because it's been through the ages.
Speaker BYou know, you can go back to ancient times, so it'd be slavery.
Speaker BJust.
Speaker BGod, there's not really a reason other than it just shouldn't happen.
Speaker BCreates too many problems for the future.
Speaker AThat and working for a major media company.
Speaker AThose two things should be changed.
Speaker ADo you remember the first thing you ever got in trouble for as a kid?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker ADo tell.
Speaker BI lied to my parents about being somewhere that I was not.
Speaker AAnd you got big trouble.
Speaker BBut I wasn't doing anything bad.
Speaker BMy parents were very strict, and I got off the bus at another person's house because they had got a new stereo system, and I wanted to see it, and I didn't tell them.
Speaker BAnd then their parents drove me home, and my parents got home early from work, and they knew then.
Speaker AGot it.
Speaker AGot it.
Speaker AWhat is the biggest change that you think should be made mandatory in food advertising?
Speaker BOh, God.
Speaker BThis one's easy.
Speaker BWhen you watch a commercial and they show a picture, a pizza or burger or whatever, looking like that.
Speaker BIt needs to look like that.
Speaker CAll right, I'm Gonna jump in here.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker CSo I just did a job for Popeyes, all right.
Speaker CAnd it was with my sister, who's a food stylist in la.
Speaker CAnd I do want to say that I learned a lot, but I was so intrigued by the quality of the food that Popeyes has.
Speaker CAnd yes, we had to make a million pieces of this or that.
Speaker CSo it did look perfect.
Speaker CBut it's advertising, so you have to make it look good.
Speaker CBut I will tell you that the actual ingredients by law in food styling has to be the exact amount that's served.
Speaker CSo they can't make it a four ounce burger.
Speaker CI mean, you know, a six ounce, if it's a quarter pounder.
Speaker CSo they do have to use the ingredients, at least the quantity, but it's how.
Speaker CWhat they do is they push the food forward so it looks like it's bigger and whatever.
Speaker CSo there's a lawsuit going on right now with Taco Bell, even with somebody claiming that.
Speaker CExactly what you said, that they bought Taco Bell food because of what the commercial said it was going to look like.
Speaker CAnd it didn't look at all like that.
Speaker CWell, you have to think about when people are picking up their takeout food and it's wrapped up in a piece of paper.
Speaker CIt's like in competition, you preserve your garnish the meat.
Speaker CYou make sure it's in the box perfectly.
Speaker CAnd it's.
Speaker CIt's a what?
Speaker CYou can't do that when you're serving the masses.
Speaker CYou know what I mean?
Speaker CAnd you certainly can't make the food on television look bad.
Speaker BNo, I think it needs to be the.
Speaker BLike, I hate when I go get pizza and I love bell pepper on pizza.
Speaker BI get pepperoni, onion, mushroom, bell pepper.
Speaker BAnd they put like on the picture, it'll have like these nice round, you know, wheels where they slice the bell pepper and then it's got like small wilted crap just thrown on there.
Speaker BAnd I'm so disappointed.
Speaker CI agree.
Speaker BMore like that.
Speaker BI mean, I've had some food styling classes years ago and, you know, I do realize that, you know, you have to be realistic, but it's like.
Speaker BAnd a lot of that is more of employee based.
Speaker BThey don't.
Speaker BIf they don't care about their job, you know, they might not make it look as good as it should.
Speaker BYeah, right.
Speaker AWell, Taco Bell's only got like four ingredients actually in their whole menu.
Speaker BThey put it all in and make something different.
Speaker AYeah, they just wrap it up differently and put sauce on it or something.
Speaker CAnd name it something Crazy.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ABiggest thing that Taco Bell ever did that really ticked me off was they got rid of their enchirito.
Speaker AIf you remember the incheritos, they were a burrito in a little container with a lot of sauce on it, and they had four sliced olives across the top and cheese.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker AWell, I. I'm ancient, so it's okay.
Speaker ABut they took that off the menu because it took too long to make.
Speaker AIt's just ground beef wrapped in a.
Speaker AIn a tortilla with sauce on it and some cheese and the, you know, four little slices of olives on there.
Speaker COnce in a while, olive placement that sets them back in time, I guess.
Speaker AI guess.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AMaybe the cost of olives.
Speaker AMaybe the cost of olives has gone up.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker BThat's folded up.
Speaker BThe crunch wrap or something.
Speaker CYeah, the crunch wrap.
Speaker BI haven't had one.
Speaker BI don't even know if they still have it, but it seems like that would be a time.
Speaker CI actually.
Speaker CYeah, I've actually done those on a flat top because you can make them at home and improvise with different ingredients.
Speaker CI mean, it really is.
Speaker CIt's a great.
Speaker CIt's.
Speaker CIt's a great dish.
Speaker CIt really is.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI have no problem with it.
Speaker AI just mad that they.
Speaker AThose olives did it.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AWhat is something your spouse was right about, but you still think they were wrong?
Speaker BI still think he was wrong, but.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BWell, boy, I hope when he listens to this, this is going to get me in trouble.
Speaker BProbably.
Speaker BHe was probably.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker CThat was hard for her to say.
Speaker BNo, he was probably right.
Speaker BWhen we bought this.
Speaker BWhat we grew up, we joke and call this place a compound where I am.
Speaker BHe was probably right.
Speaker BThat we probably should not have.
Speaker BIt's been a little bit of a money pit.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThat's what happens.
Speaker AWell, any.
Speaker AAny used house turns into that.
Speaker BYeah, well, yeah, that.
Speaker AThat happens.
Speaker BThe she shed in this second kitchen wasn't.
Speaker BYou know, I guess we didn't have to do that.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CSo it's your money pit.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ANo, you.
Speaker AHe didn't have to do that if he didn't want to sleep inside.
Speaker ASo there you go.
Speaker BExactly.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BI was trying to put it in nicely.
Speaker BI' he was right.
Speaker BWe probably just should have stayed where we lived in our golf cart community in Peachtree City, Georgia.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker AYou said the word golf cart.
Speaker AI'm in.
Speaker AIf you could instantly become a master of a musical instrument, which One would it be?
Speaker BAnd why piano?
Speaker BAnd because I took lessons when I was quite young.
Speaker BMy mom made me go, and I never mastered it.
Speaker BAnd I just regret that now.
Speaker AI can still play my scales.
Speaker BI can't anything.
Speaker AI can play the scales.
Speaker BThe only musical instrument I can play is the radio.
Speaker AThe radio?
Speaker BIs that what you said?
Speaker BScan.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AWhat is the absolute hardest thing you've ever done?
Speaker BOh, my God.
Speaker BI would say that.
Speaker BI have to say the.
Speaker BThe Netflix show.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BIt was strenuous.
Speaker AWhat?
Speaker B105 degrees.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AWhat is one thing you miss about your time in.
Speaker AIn college or school or, you know, whatever?
Speaker ABecause I don't know, we never know exactly people's entire life experiences.
Speaker ABut is there something you miss about that time?
Speaker BNot having to worry about money.
Speaker AHuh?
Speaker AThat.
Speaker AThat's a thing about it.
Speaker AWhat's the first thing you do when you get up in the morning?
Speaker BAfter I pee.
Speaker BYeah, we're just keeping it real.
Speaker BMake me a cup of coffee.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BI literally go in and push the button.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BSeven days a week.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker AName one book that should be mandatory reading for everybody.
Speaker BOh, my goodness.
Speaker BYou know, I don't have a particular author.
Speaker BI think everybody should read a funny book at least once a month.
Speaker BA comedy type book to get away from all the hustle that you can laugh, you know.
Speaker AOkay, so here's one we haven't got to yet on any of the shows.
Speaker AAnd I wanted to ask Meathead this last week, but, you know, after the second day of 24 hours in a row running on those shows like we do with him, I got tired and I had.
Speaker AI had to send a Western Union telegram to Leanne to wake her up down there.
Speaker ABut do you think.
Speaker ADo you think cooking could help kids who have trouble learning math?
Speaker BYes, 100%, because I don't measure, but I am good at guesstimating.
Speaker BAnd I think, how many times do you really need to know exactly?
Speaker AWell, if you're baking.
Speaker AIf you're baking.
Speaker BBaking.
Speaker BWell, we didn't say baking.
Speaker BWe said good.
Speaker AI said cooking.
Speaker AThat's true.
Speaker AThat's true.
Speaker BBut it also.
Speaker BIt teaches you some structure.
Speaker BAnd structure is part of math, right?
Speaker BEverything is structured.
Speaker BSo I think 100%.
Speaker BThat's why, like, when I volunteer at the culinary school, you know, we do the basic knife skills and things like that.
Speaker BBut, you know, my technique is very different than some others.
Speaker BYou know, they're like book, book, book, book.
Speaker BAnd I find when I do a class, we make it a little more fun and more Lighthearted.
Speaker BAnd they don't really realize that they're learning ratios.
Speaker BCooking is ratios.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BWhether it's the heat, the fuel, the seasoning.
Speaker BSo I think do actually doing it helps people rationalize, like, without realizing what they're learning.
Speaker AOkay, all right.
Speaker BThat's my opinion.
Speaker BAnd I'm not a teacher, so that's fine.
Speaker AThat's fine.
Speaker BThat's my opinion.
Speaker AWhat's your favorite classic movie?
Speaker ALeanne's is the Cheyenne Social Club.
Speaker AMine is Casablanca.
Speaker COh, it is.
Speaker CI didn't say the shots.
Speaker BWhat is it?
Speaker BWhat is it, Lynn?
Speaker CIt's the.
Speaker CThe Christmas one.
Speaker AThat's right.
Speaker AJust wanted to see if you were paying attention.
Speaker BWhich one?
Speaker CWhat's it called?
Speaker CNow it escapes me.
Speaker AMiracle on 34th Street.
Speaker CNo.
Speaker BA Christmas.
Speaker BNo, it's Christmas gets his angel wing.
Speaker BMine would have to be Gone with the Wind, of course, because.
Speaker BAnd I do this movie, I don't know if it's considered classic anymore, but I think it's one of the best movies out there.
Speaker BIs for scum.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd I don't know if that's considered, you know, classic.
Speaker CIt is a classic.
Speaker BIt's not an old history.
Speaker BAnd I realized how much of that I had lived through.
Speaker BI could really relate to every part of that.
Speaker BAnd my mom can relate to every part of that.
Speaker BYou know, I love that movie and Gone with the Wind because a lot of it was filmed right here.
Speaker BAnd where I am in the Gone with Wind museum is like not too far from me.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker B40 minutes.
Speaker AThat's good.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AIf you were an animal, what animal would you be?
Speaker BMy dog.
Speaker BMy dog.
Speaker CSpoiled.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYes, he is.
Speaker BMy little Cody.
Speaker AA couple more here and.
Speaker AOh, worst concert you ever attended.
Speaker BOh, God, I hate to say this because I love his music, but I'd have to say Merle Haggard because he was so smashed he couldn't perform.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker BI mean, I hate to say that because I love.
Speaker CHe's not the only one.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BRiding skill.
Speaker BBut I went and you spend that much money and for somebody cannot even perform and they fall off stool and they have to bring the warm up band back out.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI'd have to say that was it.
Speaker AAt least when I saw him, he got to sit down on the hay bale.
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker BHe fell right off the stool.
Speaker AHe couldn't stand up anymore.
Speaker AAll right, all right.
Speaker AIf you were on death row, what would your last meal be?
Speaker ABecause this is the last question.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker BVeal and morels.
Speaker CYeah, There we go.
Speaker BWith a nice demiglay sauce.
Speaker ALeanne will be in the cell next year going.
Speaker AGive me some of that.
Speaker CYeah, exactly.
Speaker BWe'll be passing it around.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker ATina Cannon, you've been a delight.
Speaker AThank you for putting up with us.
Speaker BThank you for having me, y'.
Speaker AAll.
Speaker AYeah, we.
Speaker AWe try to have fun on this show.
Speaker CAnd good luck at the World Food Championships.
Speaker BI'll see you there.
Speaker CI will see you there.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AThat's going to be it this week for after hours here on Barbecue Nation.
Speaker AI'm JT and Ms. Whippen is right there and Ms. Cannon is.
Speaker AAnd we're all out of here.
Speaker ASo take care.
Speaker AHave a good week.
Speaker AAnd remember our motto, turn it, don't burn it.
Speaker ABye.
Speaker ABye.