Ladies and gentlemen, here we are again.

This is episode 74 of the Secular Foxhole podcast.

I'm here with my co host and friend Martin Linda.

Scott from Sweden.

Yes. And Eric mean spirit.

Hello.

Bless. Hi Martin.

I'm here in the good old USA and we're going

to do a quick show.

Got a couple of interesting stories I want to

share with our audience and we're going to announce some future guests and some couple of

topics I have in mind, not necessarily with those guests, but nonetheless they will

hopefully pique your interest.

And so Martin, last week I took a vacation, my

wife and I. It was basically a staycation, but we did a day trip during the middle of the

week and it was just perfect.

It couldn't have been a more perfect day.

We went up to the northwestern hills here in Connecticut and just spent the day up there.

I toured an independent bookstore and I bought of course we had to buy a couple of books to

support them.

Good.

And had a wonderful lunch, sandwiches at place called Matt's, M-A-T Apostrius.

It was really nice little eatery.

But then usual stuff as a homeowner, you got

to do housework and repairs and so on.

But I needed that time off and it was well

worth the deal.

But hopefully I'm back in the swing of things

here.

Good. Yeah. And that's something we could be open to.

We need to get energized and so called, not vacation or break from podcast because we have

some pipeline sometimes and in the cans, but also we go by the flow.

Also this is not our work in some way, but even if I am a new media advisor, this is what

I really like to do and also to get paid for it.

And thanks.

I could do a shout out to Scott Holleran, that

Tweeted, when we mentioned him.

He talked about movies that you had watched,

Mission Impossible and he hadn't reviewed that or watched that, but he did recently review of

Rain Man, I think.

Yes, or like looking back at that.

But he said that we congratulate on our fourth year coming or how you do say that we have

been going on for this and that we are a great team.

So that's coming from Scott Holleran.

He's a writer, author and so on, blogger and

podcast and journalist.

So it's great to get that feedback.

It is nice.

It's nice.

I appreciate it, Scott.

Thank you very much.

Well, anyway, as far as the next couple of future guests, I'm going to try to get this

gentleman named Michael Lieboitz.

He is a very interesting gentleman.

He was a former criminal turned liberty advocate and of course he has his own podcast

and so on.

We will discuss that though when we have him

on.

But he has a new book called View From.

View from.

I forget if it's the cage or a cage I think

it's View from a Cage, of course, his time behind bars and then how he walked out of that

a different man.

So that should be an intriguing, thought

provoking show.

And then I hope to we have another author on

coming soon.

His name is Fred Seiler, Frederick Siler, and

he wrote a book called God Versus Nature in which the topic is he disputes the let me put

this right he disputes the connection trying to be made by religious people that there's a

compatibility between science and faith.

He disputes that with profound evidence.

So I hope to finish that book in time.

It's interesting that you're saying because I was at the book fair today, a big

book fair and then I went to the booth that called themselves skeptics, skeptic in Swedish

but they say they are for education, for the so called masses in a positive way and also

built on science.

But he had a t shirt said I'm a skeptic and I

said I'm not.

But then we had an interesting conversation

about it, why they call that by name and I talked also about that I would be a so called

skeptic or somebody labeled myself then would be regarding environmentalists, for example.

So we had some interesting discussion there.

But then he said isn't it true?

Because I said I've been working and studying America but if you're a political candidate

you have to say that you are religious.

Like that's the litmus test, for example,

being against abortion or something like that.

And I said yeah, sorry to say that's the case

now, but that was not from the beginning and we want to change that with our podcast.

Exactly.

Yes, exactly.

So that was an interesting conversation.

So I think you could do it in different ways and it's great to have guests that have

specialized on a topic or written a book or like Levitic here starting a podcast or fellow

podcasters.

We want to reach out to them also and be maybe

guests in future also.

Yes, that's right, be guest on our show and we

could learn from that and the whole thing because it was a Fred on Facebook that he

wanted to reach more, so to speak, or a bigger audience and so on.

And I said we have done it for a long time.

We are a small podcast but it's talking about

statistics around and we are open here with the figures and maybe it doesn't sound

impressive, but it's around seven downloads per day so somebody's listening out there and

we have several countries and it's adding up so we will continue doing that.

So it's growing and it's staying and then you never know if you will have that so called

Ketchup effect but then you want it to keep growing so on.

Yes, and I've seen on the stats that some months it's bigger and that could be for

different reasons, it could be a guest that they have a bigger audience or the topic the

listeners is more interested in that and whatnot yes, we have the stats for our

advantage and we will continue doing that.

And in order for us and I'm babbling here, but

in order for us to continue and we will it would be fun, interesting, nice and appreciate

like Scott's comment there to get that feedback.

Is it a value for you listening to our podcast and then you could support us by this time

treasure and then tell things and also send satoshis like these Boostograms and Digital

Telegram and also help in different ways.

Yes, spread the good word.

So we will talk more about that because lately we haven't got so much donations, but I also

take it on myself also I haven't been so active in that because I have run out of my

satoshis, I have to ask my wallets and so on.

But I will book a meeting with a service I

really like called podfans FM Sam SETI and he together with James Cridlen had a podcast

conference in London recently and there it was a topic that we could talk about.

I saw on a Fred that know individuals, but he said that at the end of the conference

somebody blamed him about something about color.

And he's an Englishman or adopted or something.

I don't know if was born in India or something, but have that connection.

And we had a guest about that.

And also we were guests on podcast talking

about these things like racism.

Right?

And I saw a clip on Daily Wire and you know that's maybe not accordingly exactly as

we are pointing out, but sometimes they poke both fun and point at vocal and so on there it

was a guy that's now at some university.

And he had tried to explain what racist is,

and he said racist is something like systemming racism by racist organizations or

whatever.

He didn't have any definition, not like Rand

but collectivism worst form of that and so on.

And he promoted racism in his way because he

was against other with not his color.

So it had gone a long way.

But I think we will see hopefully a change in the near future because people will see it by

itself.

It's so dumb and it will be a wake up call, I

think.

And could we say that positive things maybe

we'll get that also in the pipeline, we the Living that had a screening in.

So that wow.

I know, that's incredible.

That's incredible.

Some more positive news here.

Yes. Well, I wanted to let me follow up quickly on The We The Living and we hope to

have the producer Duncan Scott on as well in the future and talk about that movie.

Get help from former guest.

Also Robert Wigli that has connections and he

also a great fan of our podcast and been a returning guest and also get really

constructive feedback that really get you happy because he is an expert in presentation,

true and skills like.

I as I as I try to do with our own podcast, just Martin and I, I try to pick a

couple of positive stories and I always go to HumanProgress.org to find two or three things.

And today I've got a couple of things that's pretty interesting, pretty cool and let me

bring those up if I may.

Yes.

All right.

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Here we go.

And this desalinating water is becoming, quote

absurdly cheap, unquote.

Elon Musk Schools Bill Maher and this is from

the 22 September and I'll read just a couple of quick paragraphs here.

Bill Maher recently interviewed Elon Musk.

When Mar claimed that we are running out of

water, musk replied that quote earth is 70% water, unquote.

Mar shot back that you can't drink that.

Musk calmly replied that desalination is

absurdly cheap.

And so how cheap is cheap?

Well, the Energy Monitor notes that globally around 1% of the world's drinking water is

desalinated.

But in Israel that figure is around 25%,

unquote.

Yeah, which I did not know you read in my mind because the theme was Jewish culture

at the book fair and I learned that last year and bought a book from Israel for Peace and

Organization and talking about all the innovations and what they are doing, for

example, great water.

So they were not here this time, but I'm in

contact with them and they're really good example.

So yeah, I know about it, how they have done that and that's again, thanks for free minds

and free markets and they could do something and of course they are in a way quotation

market or whatever you call it, forced to do it because they have threats around them and

they can't trade with the native countries.

But if the other world will change over time

and now I'm jumping here, but I see I was being in a demonstration because it was one

year again since this Turkish girl was lady and woman was beaten by the so called talking

about morality, so called morality police in Iran and died from that that's one years.

And they haven't stopped the demonstration.

And things are bubbling in Iran and we have to

support that in different ways.

Because if it will be changed, it will be

sooner or later it will change things in, for example, Lebanon and others because that's

controlled by the Hespala and Iran is linked to that.

Yes.

So I see positive things that could happen, but we have to push forward in

different yeah, well, if we have.

One or two listeners in know our thoughts are with so but thanks for that.

I appreciate you found a book about Israel's technology advances.

But the second story, since there's so much controversy and panic over vaccines, I still

wanted to bring this story to light from the University of Chicago Press and we have a

story called, in quotes, inverse vaccine unquote shows potential to treat multiple

sclerosis and other autoimmune diseases.

And this was posted on the 11 September and

I'll just read again, I'll read the opening paragraph and we'll obviously have these links

in our show notes, but a new type of vaccine developed by researchers at the university of

Chicago's Pritzker School of Molecular Engineering has shown in the lab setting that

it can completely reverse autoimmune diseases like multiple sclerosis and type one diabetes,

all without shutting down the rest of the immune system.

And if that's true to me, in my mind of know, I knew a dear friend of mine had Ms and she

perished at too young an age, frankly.

And my wife has diabetes.

And so if the FDA will not take 50 years to decide to let it come to market, we can deal

with this anyway.

But let's see.

A typical vaccine teaches the human immune system to recognize a virus or bacteria as an

enemy that should be attacked.

The new quote Inverse vaccine unquote does

just the opposite.

It removes the immune system's memory of one

molecule.

While such an immune memory erasure would be

unwanted for infectious diseases, it can stop autoimmune reactions like those seen in

multiple sclerosis, type one diabetes, or rheumatoid arthritis, in which the immune

system attacks a person's healthy tissues.

That story goes on, but it's very fascinating.

Both of these articles, I thought, should be spread to the wider public because I like to

share good news.

So that's my two cent worth with these two

stories.

But there's a topic that I've been toying with

in my head that I want to get, if I can try to get.

I know Andy Bernstein has been a frequent guest, but he's always willing and able to

come on.

The topic I want to discuss with him is the

Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

Plato, Kant, Hegel, Marx and the antidote Ein

Rand.

Good.

So that should be an entertaining hour or 90 minutes, hopefully sometime next year.

Great.

But as far as again, we ask our listeners to either send us good old American

cash or if you prefer, bitcoin Satoshis, to the links that we provide in the show notes.

Martin, I guess, again, this was a short one and thanks for scheduling it for me and we'll

talk again soon.

Yeah. Talk again soon, Bear. And thanks for listening and thanks for your

support and spreading the good word and yeah, see you around.

All right. Thanks, Mark. Cheers.