So it still blows my mind that We've completed over 200 episodes of the Weekly Wealth Podcast.
Speaker ABut welcome to episode number 207.
Speaker AAnd today we're talking about some of the stock market volatility.
Speaker AIf you've been watching the news, which maybe you should turn off the news and that would lessen your stress level.
Speaker ABut if you've been watching the news, you've been seeing some stock market declines recently and some stock market volatility.
Speaker ASo I'm going to give you some pointers on some actions that you can take that might reduce your stress and can help you to improve your financial position.
Speaker BWelcome to the Weekly Wealth Podcast.
Speaker BI am certified financial planner David Chudick.
Speaker BThis podcast and my wealth management practice are both designed to help the mass affluent to live better lives by how they handle their money.
Speaker BWe talk about financial strategies, prosperous mindsets, and simply how to build true wealth.
Speaker BSo come on and let's enjoy this journey together.
Speaker ASo if you turn on the news, if you look at social media or if you look at any of the news websites, you'll see all of the headlines.
Speaker AYou'll see the possibility of major tariffs and then maybe the tariffs are going to be lessened, that there possibly is an escalation in the Ukraine war and then maybe there are some de escalations, there are some issues with Canada, there are the immigration issue.
Speaker AThere are so many things happening in our world right now and a lot of the experts are saying that this is a headline driven market.
Speaker AThe stock markets are looking at the things that are going on that have some economic impact and there are some potentially amplified results.
Speaker ASo today I want to talk about some of the things that you can do when markets are in a period of volatility.
Speaker ABut before we do that, let's do all the things.
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Speaker AAll right, so now that we have all of the social media out of the way, let's talk about some things that you can be doing in your personal financial situation in this headline driven market.
Speaker ASo let's talk numbers.
Speaker AFirst of all, let's Talk about the S&P 500 index.
Speaker AAnd let's talk about the closing price.
Speaker AOn January 2nd of 2025, the index closed at 58.68.55.
Speaker AThen in on January 23rd, it closed at 61.18.
Speaker ASo we have a nice big gain there.
Speaker AAnd it hovered above 6,000 for a while and it got all the way up to 6,144 on February 19th.
Speaker AAnd then as of this right this second on March 5th, we are down to in the 57, 5,800 range.
Speaker AThe market has not necessarily decreased that much.
Speaker AIt's only down a little bit.
Speaker ABut we have absolutely gone way up and then we've gone back down.
Speaker ALet's look at the Dow Jones now.
Speaker AOn January 2nd, the close was at 42,392.
Speaker AA couple days later, we made it down a little bit below 42,000.
Speaker ABut then we started a climb.
Speaker AWe were up to 44,882 on January 30th.
Speaker AWe hovered around that range.
Speaker AWe closed at 44,627 on February 19th.
Speaker AThen we started dropping to 43428 on February 21st.
Speaker AAnd as of March 5th, we're at 42,723.
Speaker ASo still barely up for the year, but we are down from the highs of the year.
Speaker ASo, yeah, I mean, it has been a roller coaster of a ride starting in January until now when we are in March of 2025.
Speaker ASo the first thing that I would love for you to do is let's if you're stressed out, if you're worried, let's stop, let's take a breath and let's acknowledge that it is normal and totally okay and acceptable to have some financial stress.
Speaker AYou're not a bad person.
Speaker AYou're not overly anxious.
Speaker AYou're just a human who might be watching your portfolio balances go up and go down and that can cause some stress in your life.
Speaker ASo it's totally normal.
Speaker AI empathize with you.
Speaker AI have my own portfolios and some of them are up, some of them are down.
Speaker ABut they do have those fluctuations.
Speaker ASo that's the first thing.
Speaker ALet's get that out of the way and let's say it is okay.
Speaker ADon't worry.
Speaker AIf you are worried, nobody should be judging you.
Speaker AIt is in addition to that, we might want to stop looking at the balances of our accounts, especially for our accounts that are geared towards retirement or geared towards events that might be decades and decades away.
Speaker ASo right now, let's say hypothetically you have a million dollar account and you're 40 years old and this is your IRA that you really can't even touch until you're 60 or you're not planning on touching until you're 60 or 65.
Speaker AAnd let's say your million dollar account goes down to $850,000.
Speaker AAnd that really does stink.
Speaker AThat's no fun.
Speaker AThat can be stressful.
Speaker ABut this hypothetical example, this is money that you're not planning to touch, you're not going to touch for 20, 25, 30 years.
Speaker ASo why are we worrying about what probably is a little bit of a blip on the radar for these kind of accounts?
Speaker AThe down market might even be a buying opportunity because if prices are artificially low, maybe due to, and maybe as you're contributing to your 401k or your IRA, maybe you might buy some shares of stocks or bonds or mutual funds or EFTs at a discount.
Speaker ASo the down parts of the market might even be a blessing in disguise for you.
Speaker ABut it really is important to make sure that you have separate buckets of money and each of these buckets are allocated for different purposes and have different time horizons.
Speaker ASo let's give an example.
Speaker ALet's say you're saving to buy a new house and you're going to need a down payment somewhere between two and five years from now.
Speaker AWell, those monies really should not be invested in a place that might have significant market volatility.
Speaker ASo those money should be invested much more conservatively.
Speaker AMaybe a money market, something like that, that can have a little bit of growth.
Speaker ABut it would really hurt you if right before you're ready to put your down payment down on your new house, we had a correction year and your down payment went down by 40%.
Speaker ASo that would be a bad thing because that is an investment with a short investment horizon.
Speaker ANow, as we spoke, your retirement account that you may not be looking at touching for 10 or 20 or 30 years, you can probably afford some fluctuations there.
Speaker ANow, when we move into the distribution phase of our lives, when we are taking money out of our retirement accounts because we're no longer working, then we have to have those accounts allocated adequately as well.
Speaker ASo there may be times as you are getting older, older, and you no longer have a salary or paycheck that, yeah, you want less stock market exposure.
Speaker ASo having an investment philosophy is important for our clients.
Speaker AWe have what's called an ips, an Investment Policy statement, and that helps us to kind of guide our decisions on where we are going to invest our clients money based on all of those factors.
Speaker AAnd even more so, if this is something that interests you, or if you're just thinking, I don't know, like, am I taking too much risk?
Speaker AAm I not taking enough risk?
Speaker AShoot me an email.
Speaker ADavidarallelfinancial.com we can talk about some of your specifics.
Speaker AOkay, so now that we've talked a little bit about just making sure that you have the right amount of risk for the right buckets of money, I wanted to talk about two different types of financial instruments that might.
Speaker AAnd remember, we're not giving specific financial advice, we're just giving information.
Speaker AAnd you should consult your own financial advisor.
Speaker ABut two instruments that might make sense for you to protect you from large downturns in your portfolio.
Speaker ASo the first one is an indexed annuity.
Speaker ANow, very generally speaking, what indexed annuities do is they will typically have a floor of zero, and your account would be tied or indexed to a specific stock market index.
Speaker ASo it might be the S&P 500, it might be the NASDAQ, or it might be a bond index, and you would typically have a floor of zero, and you would have a ceiling of, let's say, 7, 8, 9, or 10%.
Speaker AAnd very simplistically explained, if the index gets less than zero, then your account will stay at zero.
Speaker ASo that means you start off with $100,000 and your annuity is indexed to the S&P 500.
Speaker AAnd that year the S&P 500 gets negative 10%.
Speaker AWell, because your account is indexed to the S and P and it has a floor of zero, instead of going backwards, your account just stayed at zero, which is a heck of a lot better than going backwards by 10%.
Speaker ANow, on the other side, an indexed annuity will typically have a ceiling, and the ceiling will be something like 6, 7, 8, 9, 10%, whatever it is.
Speaker AAnd they vary.
Speaker AAnd we're going to use 7 as an example.
Speaker ABut remember, your specific annuity will have a specific ceiling.
Speaker ABut if your annuity has a ceiling of 7, and if it's indexed to the S&P 500, and if the S&P 500 gets 15% that year, you are only going to get 7% return.
Speaker ASo basically what you're doing is you are trading the potential to lose money with the potential to have an unlimited return.
Speaker ASo in the years where the market does much better than the ceiling than the company, your annuity issuing company, which has to be be a life insurance company, they, they keep that money.
Speaker AAnd that's how they stay in business.
Speaker AAnd then on the years where your index performs worse than your than your floor, then you stay at zero.
Speaker ASo it's a pretty cool way to make sure that you don't have that catastrophic market loss that a lot of people are afraid of.
Speaker ASo that is an indexed annuity explained, maybe in an overly simplistic manner.
Speaker ABut if you have any questions or if you want to know how it might work for you specifically, make sure to email me davidarallelfinancial.com and we can talk about it.
Speaker ANow, another type of a financial instrument is a buffered etf.
Speaker AA buffered ETF is a type of investment that helps protect against some losses while still allowing for some gains.
Speaker AIt's really like a safety net for your money.
Speaker AIf the stock market drops, a buffered ETF will absorb a certain percentage of the losses and there is some limited upside.
Speaker ASo in exchange for that protection, there's now a cap on how much you can gain.
Speaker AIf the market goes up a lot, you'll only get part of the growth.
Speaker ABut if the market goes down a lot, you will tend to not lose anything or only lose part of it.
Speaker ASo a buffered ETF might be another type of investment, or we can call it a financial instrument that can help you to sleep at night.
Speaker AMany of my clients who are getting close to retirement, they are more afraid of a catastrophic portfolio loss than they are excited about earning a few extra points on the top end.
Speaker ASo they would be hurt more by a large portfolio loss than they would be helped by earning another couple percentage points.
Speaker AThese types of investments or instruments are very, very appealing.
Speaker ASo buffered ETFs might be something for you to consider, as might an indexed annuity.
Speaker ASo if a buffered ETF sounds like something that you think might fit into your personal financial situation, make sure to email me davidarallelfinancial.com we can talk about it, we can see if it fits into your ideal scenarios.
Speaker AAnd before we move on to some other common sense strategies that you might think about implementing during times of market volatility, let's talk about cash.
Speaker AAnd when I'm talking about cash, what I'm really talking about are cash and like equivalents.
Speaker ASo these can be money markets, these can be savings accounts, these can be checking accounts, things like that.
Speaker ANow, especially if you are close to retirement or you're in retirement or the distribution phase of your life, it might be a good idea to hold six months to a year or even more of bare minimum living expenses in cash.
Speaker ASo why do I say that?
Speaker AWell, let's go back to a catastrophic portfolio loss.
Speaker ALet's say you've done really, really well and you have built up a three, four or five million dollars portfolio and you're in your mid-60s and you're at a period where taking distributions from that portfolio.
Speaker AAnd let's say we do have that down market year of 40%.
Speaker ASo your $3 million portfolio has gone down by $120,000.
Speaker ASo that's kind of a rough way to go and that might be a little bit painful.
Speaker ANow, if you had a relatively significant amount of cash, you might decide to pay for all of your living expenses out of cash that year and give your portfol to recover.
Speaker AHaving cash will allow you to probably sleep at night so you can weather the storm of having a potential portfolio decrease and will also allow you to give your decreased portfolio if it does happen.
Speaker ATime to recover.
Speaker AThink about how much it would cost you to live maybe if you tightened your belt a little bit in some hard times.
Speaker AAnd think about if you should hold six months or a year or 18 months worth of cash in a money market or in some short term CDs or things like that.
Speaker ASo that's one way that some of my clients are able to sleep at night because they know that they have enough cash to weather the storm.
Speaker AWhat do you think?
Speaker AHow much cash should you have?
Speaker AHow much cash do you have?
Speaker AAnd would a little bit more cash help you to sleep at night?
Speaker AOkay, so we've talked generically about making sure that we have different buckets of money that are invested differently with different amounts of risk for different time horizons.
Speaker AAnd then we also talked about out some different financial instruments which would be buffered ETFs and indexed annuities.
Speaker AAnd both of those in similar ways, they give you downside protection.
Speaker ASo you can either not lose a lot of money or you cannot lose any money.
Speaker AAnd then you also have some upside, but you have limited upside.
Speaker ASo those are some ways that my clients manage their risks with some of their money.
Speaker ANow, I want to talk about some other concrete actions that you can consider taking when the markets are doing some crazy things like they've been doing for the last few weeks.
Speaker ABut really these are things that we should always be doing.
Speaker ASo the first thing is let's look at our budget, let's look at our spending plan.
Speaker AAre you spending an amount of money each month on needs and on wants that is appropriate for your financial reality?
Speaker ASo you'll notice you very rarely will ever hear me Say the word afford.
Speaker AI can't afford.
Speaker AOr you shouldn't afford.
Speaker AThat, that.
Speaker ABecause I think that's a word that's just a little bit restrictive.
Speaker ABut what I do tell myself and my clients that we need to spend the amount of money that is appropriate for our financial reality.
Speaker ASo while the markets are going through a period of volatility which may last a week, it may last years.
Speaker AWho knows how long it's going to last?
Speaker ALet's make sure that we are not overextending.
Speaker ALet's make sure that we're keeping financial margin.
Speaker ALet's make sure that we are spending less money than what is coming in every month.
Speaker AOkay, so that's number one, let's just control what we can control, right?
Speaker AAnd we can generally control our spending.
Speaker ALook at needs, look at wants.
Speaker AAnd that works for everybody.
Speaker AIt works for low income, and it works for most of the listeners of the weekly wealth podcast who are mass, affluent or high net worth.
Speaker ANow, something else for us to look at and we have a lot of control over it is our insurance and our risk management.
Speaker AAt its core, insurance simply protects your money.
Speaker ANothing more, nothing less.
Speaker AIf you cause me to have a loss, either you're going to pay for my loss or your insurance is going to pay for my loss.
Speaker AAnd you'd probably much rather have your insurance pay for my loss.
Speaker ABut let's throw in a double whammy.
Speaker ALet's say that you run a stop sign and you cause my whole family, through your negligence, to have a large, large loss and we have high medical bills.
Speaker ALet's also say that at the same time, your portfolios are down 30% because we are in a period, hypothetically where portfolios are down, the markets are having some of those bad years, and now you have to liquidate part of your portfolio in order to pay for my damages.
Speaker AWell, that's a double whammy because number one, you're having to pay me a lot of money, and number two, you're having to liquidate stocks that are down in value in order to be able to pay me, and that is locking in a loss.
Speaker ASo have a good local insurance agent and periodically ask him or her to review where your major risk exposures are and ask how those risks can be transferred to an insurance company.
Speaker ASometimes they can, sometimes they can't.
Speaker ABut you want to be making your insurance decisions on an informed basis, not simply by default.
Speaker AAnd finally, if you are a business owner, and you know, I love the business owners because I am a business owner myself, take this time where there is market volatility and let's make sure that we're doubling down on our business.
Speaker ALet's do all the things that we need to do to make our business more profitable.
Speaker ALet's be efficient.
Speaker ALet's make sure we are bringing value to our clients and to our customers and we are leading our teams properly.
Speaker AAnd sometimes, again, this is a way for us to feel like we have control and we're able to take action and it can take away some of the stress that we have from market volatility.
Speaker AAnd don't forget, if you're a business owner, your business should be looked at as an asset and it's typically your biggest asset.
Speaker AAnd unlike the stock markets, you have direct control over your biggest asset, which is your business.
Speaker ASo do the things that you have to do to make your business profitable and to make it more sellable.
Speaker ANow, if you have any questions on how to make your business more sellable, you can certainly go to my Exit Planning website and I have some really good information in there on how to make your business more sellable and also a link to the Value Builder Score that can tell you how sellable your business is and also tell you some of the areas where you might improve your business so that you can sell it for a higher multiple when you're ready or simply have an easier and more profitable life today.
Speaker ASo that brings us to the end of the episode.
Speaker AHow are you handling the volatility?
Speaker AAre you stressing out?
Speaker AAre you watching cnbc?
Speaker AAre you watching the news channels?
Speaker AAre you getting really into politics?
Speaker AAre you logging into your investment apps and stressing out and getting worried?
Speaker AOr are you ignoring it?
Speaker AAre you managing your own investments or do you feel like having a professional help you to come up with an investment philosophy and investment management strategies is a good idea for you.
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Speaker ATo me, it's fascinating the psychology of money and how different people handle different financial situations.
Speaker ASo I enjoyed chatting with you and until next episode, I wish everybody a blessed week.
Speaker AThanks everybody.
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