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Speaker B:Welcome to the Own youn Choices on youn Life Podcast.
Speaker B:I know you are here wanting to change and rewrite your story.
Speaker B:You are desiring to step into the impact that you know you were here to create.
Speaker B:I am here to guide you with the proven tools and strategies used by myself and our speakers
Speaker B:to support you in taking radical responsibility in your life and learning how
Speaker B:to own your choices to change your story.
Speaker B:My name is Marsha Van Winsburg.
Speaker B:I am a storytelling business coach, master NLP
Speaker B:trainer, speaker, podcaster, and seven times published author.
Speaker B:My clients have found freedom and purpose from overcoming their shame stories and learning
Speaker B:how to share them with the world.
Speaker B:I am so grateful you are here.
Speaker B:Let's get started.
Speaker A:Foreign.
Speaker B:Welcome back to the show.
Speaker A:This is the last episode before the end of 2025 and it is recorded a little bit
Speaker A:ahead of time, so who knows what else is going to come up, but I will share it in new
Speaker A:episodes coming into the new year.
Speaker A:So I have already recorded a few episodes that were like the Honest Spicy Truth where I
Speaker A:talked about kind of the unhinged Spotify wrap up, the hardest lessons I've learned this year
Speaker A:and the grief, the grief that went with all of it and all of that can exist while you are
Speaker A:celebrating your biggest year to date.
Speaker A:It all can happen at the same time.
Speaker A:It's very important for me that I'm always real with, whether it's on social media,
Speaker A:whether it's here that I am real with what this looks like because this is authenticity.
Speaker A:And I don't want somebody to look at the online space and think, oh, of just she never
Speaker A:struggles with this because that's just not true.
Speaker A:You can struggle with all of these things and more and still grow your business while
Speaker A:listening to what you need.
Speaker A:So today is not sharing about the hard lessons
Speaker A:and what broke me.
Speaker A:I'm sharing about what it has built and the identity of who I am coming into 2026.
Speaker A:And I feel like this is a little bit of a personal series.
Speaker A:But I really invite you to reflect with all of this work before you decide to set a goal for
Speaker A:2026.
Speaker A:This is like taking inventory.
Speaker A:It's important to look at where you are, what
Speaker A:lessons you've learned.
Speaker A:Not mistakes, but things that you're learning from the feedback that you got from this year
Speaker A:and how you choose to do it differently.
Speaker A:So this is about the identity that I'm building.
Speaker A:If you have lived it and shaped it and if it shaped you, you get to choose how it defines
Speaker A:you and you get to choose what you Share from it.
Speaker A:And you get to choose how much you get to share with everyone else.
Speaker A:So all of the lessons and things that we've learned,
Speaker A:they're built into our subconscious and we decide, our subconscious decides what meaning
Speaker A:we apply to that, what meaning do we make about us with that?
Speaker A:And so it's inviting you at all times to listen,
Speaker A:right? How much dialogue are you having with
Speaker A:yourself?
Speaker A:Because honestly, that's a really big piece.
Speaker A:Listening to what you need,
Speaker A:getting clear, asking, talking to yourself.
Speaker A:It's okay.
Speaker A:This is really the piece of it.
Speaker A:Because we're learning lessons nonstop.
Speaker A:We're also meaning making machines so we can consciously interrupt that pattern of if it
Speaker A:shows up that, oh my God, I've totally screwed up this year.
Speaker A:What a mess it's been.
Speaker A:Well, what meaning are you attaching to that?
Speaker A:Yeah, I've tried a lot of new things this year and some things have been amazing and some
Speaker A:things I won't do again.
Speaker A:And that's okay.
Speaker A:That's how we learn,
Speaker A:right? That's how we learn.
Speaker A:So a big thing that I am learning that with all of the things that I have put into place
Speaker A:this year,
Speaker A:so many new things, from a live event to a mastermind, to a master practitioner,
Speaker A:to a full six day immersion.
Speaker A:So many things.
Speaker A:Publishing a book with 24 authors were all
Speaker A:brand new.
Speaker A:And that is where my capacity was tested.
Speaker A:There were moments that it would have been
Speaker A:very easy to say yes to the next project,
Speaker A:the next thing.
Speaker A:And I would pause.
Speaker A:I got into the habit of pausing.
Speaker A:I had times where I was like, oh, but I'm supposed to launch this by now.
Speaker A:And every time I would get ready to share something on it,
Speaker A:my whole system would be like,
Speaker A:like nothing was coming out.
Speaker A:And that's because my system was done.
Speaker A:My system was like, enough, it's enough
Speaker A:already.
Speaker A:So I really feel that this year the first lesson I can share is capacity before
Speaker A:strategy.
Speaker A:How do I feel with a yes to that answer? What does it look like?
Speaker A:Because I actually believe the strategy only works when you've built the capacity first.
Speaker A:One of the episodes I shared a few weeks ago that people have loved in this message is the
Speaker A:piece that if you build capacity, your ambition can work for you.
Speaker A:Don't build your capacity and your ambition, it'll work against you.
Speaker A:And how do I know? Because I've spent my whole life doing that is
Speaker A:not listening and constantly burning out.
Speaker A:So as I go into 2026, I will be leaning into what does it feel like first?
Speaker A:What does that feel like? Do I have the capacity For.
Speaker A:Yes, for that.
Speaker A:And that also means there's a lot of
Speaker A:foundational work that we're building right now because that's what's required to hold
Speaker A:what we're building.
Speaker A:Right? You don't build this massive house on little
Speaker A:toothpicks and then get frustrated when it doesn't hold.
Speaker A:And that's what happens when you only throw ideas at the wall nonstop.
Speaker A:Okay,
Speaker A:number two,
Speaker A:regulated leaders make better decisions.
Speaker A:I know that sounds so obvious,
Speaker A:but they do.
Speaker A:When we make dysregulated decisions, like, put that out there.
Speaker A:Get that offer done.
Speaker A:I have to make a sale.
Speaker A:Maybe reacting to a message versus pausing,
Speaker A:that's a difference from regulated decisions to, like, regulated leadership.
Speaker A:The pause is powerful.
Speaker A:And there's so part of me that doesn't always love it, but there was one time where I
Speaker A:received a message from a client this year.
Speaker A:It wasn't nice.
Speaker A:It was not nice at all.
Speaker A:And I found myself being like,
Speaker A:excuse me,
Speaker A:we don't talk to people that way.
Speaker A:And you know what I did?
Speaker A:I didn't respond.
Speaker A:I didn't respond for almost probably four days at all.
Speaker A:And I shoved it aside.
Speaker A:I'm like, no one talks to me that way.
Speaker A:And the message came back, and the person was, so obviously you're not thrilled with my
Speaker A:response.
Speaker A:I'm like, I am not.
Speaker A:If you would like to have a conversation, we can.
Speaker A:But I will not communicate this way over our phones.
Speaker A:And no one treats me like that.
Speaker A:And I know that that's a foreign concept for some people, that you wouldn't even think to
Speaker A:have that boundary that strong.
Speaker A:But I don't mess around with my boundaries.
Speaker A:I'm real.
Speaker A:That's a real thing.
Speaker A:You don't cross that for me.
Speaker A:And so I know that pausing in that moment was a really powerful lesson for both of us.
Speaker A:When you don't pause and you jump right into something and you react, you actually lose
Speaker A:your own personal power.
Speaker A:You do.
Speaker A:So sometimes the answer has to be not right now.
Speaker A:Not everything requires a response from you.
Speaker A:It really doesn't.
Speaker A:That's a massive lesson on boundaries.
Speaker A:Okay, number three, identity.
Speaker A:First, who are you being in the moments?
Speaker A:How are you showing up?
Speaker A:How are you leading yourself? Is your word your word.
Speaker A:That's where it starts.
Speaker A:When your identity is so crystal clear on who
Speaker A:you are,
Speaker A:and you know who you are, and you know how to respond to what is happening and you know how
Speaker A:to lead yourself,
Speaker A:you'll be better prepared to see the limiting beliefs that pop up, the behaviors that are
Speaker A:not serving you, that are not moving in the direction you'll be able to help to set
Speaker A:yourself up for success with your results.
Speaker A:You'll be able to catch yourself on your own BS stories that are running around in the
Speaker A:background and they're always there.
Speaker A:But if you're not clear on who you are,
Speaker A:that comes first and that will lead to results.
Speaker A:If you chase results,
Speaker A:you chase numbers, but you're not clear on who you are,
Speaker A:you might catch it, but it's going to fall every time.
Speaker A:I worked with a client this year who built a massive business further beyond what she ever
Speaker A:thought she could do.
Speaker A:And everybody was celebrating her.
Speaker A:She was excited,
Speaker A:and yet she felt terrible inside and couldn't figure out why, because there was a limiting
Speaker A:belief, a limiting decision running that she did not deserve this level of success.
Speaker A:Until you address the foundations and the beliefs,
Speaker A:you will not build a sustainable business.
Speaker A:That's where it starts from.
Speaker A:Number four,
Speaker A:I don't rush as much as I used to.
Speaker A:Now I still do a lot.
Speaker A:Trust me, I do.
Speaker A:When I catch myself pushing that pressure from inside and I used to think how productive that
Speaker A:is, that's how you build the business.
Speaker A:That version of me.
Speaker A:When she shows up now, it feels like
Speaker A:contraction.
Speaker A:It's like that.
Speaker A:I don't like that.
Speaker A:Doesn't feel good.
Speaker A:That's not who I am.
Speaker A:How do I anchor into who I am now and who I'm becoming?
Speaker A:So when I see that pressure and pushing coming up, that's the old version of me.
Speaker A:Now I lean into like, no. How does it feel inside?
Speaker A:First,
Speaker A:get our energy on board, take care of ourselves, so that when we go do the thing,
Speaker A:it's grounded.
Speaker A:Because if it's not and you push to make it
Speaker A:happen and it flops,
Speaker A:you know what happens then? Subconsciously, you make it mean something
Speaker A:about you when you make it mean something about you.
Speaker A:Like,
Speaker A:good luck shifting that.
Speaker A:Because the biggest,
Speaker A:biggest relationship you will have is the one you have with yourself, the conversations that
Speaker A:you are having with yourself.
Speaker A:Yes, it's important to watch all the people in
Speaker A:your corner and what's happening and what they're saying.
Speaker A:But you are the only person that you spend 247 with.
Speaker A:So that's what matters.
Speaker A:Lesson five, my voice.
Speaker A:It's my advantage.
Speaker A:It really is.
Speaker A:It's like I found myself really leaning in and trusting when I was speaking.
Speaker A:I had a couple, like, a number of different speaking events this year,
Speaker A:and I have learned to trust it.
Speaker A:There were a couple of times where I spoke.
Speaker A:Like, once I spoke at a real estate retreat.
Speaker A:And it's so Interesting because I'm like, oh, my God.
Speaker A:These women have had all this success.
Speaker A:Like, can I actually share something with
Speaker A:them? I had an outline and when I got there, I have
Speaker A:a framework in how I do things when it comes to speaking.
Speaker A:When I got there, I actually asked a couple questions and I could see this group was
Speaker A:really struggling with limiting beliefs.
Speaker A:And in the moment, I trusted myself and I made
Speaker A:a pivot and it was a massive success because of listening to what I needed versus being
Speaker A:like, oh my God.
Speaker A:But I have a plan that looks like this.
Speaker A:Meet the people where they're at and speak to them and watch that unfold.
Speaker A:So I've learned to trust that, like, my voice is my asset.
Speaker A:Like, I really do.
Speaker A:I trust it.
Speaker A:So that also means there are times where I will not go post on social media because it's
Speaker A:like I'm not in the energy of it and that's okay, too.
Speaker A:All right, number six.
Speaker A:This has always been a big one and I'm still
Speaker A:doing this one often.
Speaker A:Community over isolation.
Speaker A:Community,
Speaker A:like, is greater than isolation.
Speaker A:I have put myself into so many rooms this year.
Speaker A:Rooms and masterminds, leading them,
Speaker A:being a part of them,
Speaker A:coaching in person certification, in person events, in person retreats.
Speaker A:And I was blown away by the growth that happens.
Speaker A:Not just with myself, with everybody in that space.
Speaker A:Because when I allowed myself to be supported,
Speaker A:that comes from community.
Speaker A:There's a past version of me who had no idea
Speaker A:how to receive support at all.
Speaker A:Now when I feel myself going into isolation, I have a few people that I will voice text and I
Speaker A:will say, like, you do not have to respond.
Speaker A:I don't need an answer.
Speaker A:I don't need anything from you.
Speaker A:I just need you to hold space.
Speaker A:And I'll tell you, that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker A:It really is to build those relationships and
Speaker A:know that you can be supported.
Speaker A:Because the support has allowed me to lean in,
Speaker A:to lead with my heart so much more and to be authentically me.
Speaker A:I'm so fricking grateful for the support that I've had this year.
Speaker A:It has been such a huge lesson and that's why I want to always support within my own
Speaker A:community.
Speaker A:How can I help you? What does that look like?
Speaker A:Okay, number seven,
Speaker A:I say this and I mean it.
Speaker A:And I will always come back to it is I am done playing small and letting self doubt take
Speaker A:over.
Speaker A:Does that mean it's never going to happen again?
Speaker A:No, because I'm human.
Speaker A:But really being in a space of when I hear that self doubt come up,
Speaker A:can I consciously interrupt it and say, why are you here?
Speaker A:What do you need? Do you need to be heard?
Speaker A:Are you the little seven year old version of me that needs to be heard, throwing a tantrum?
Speaker A:Or are you just scared because we're doing something new and it's big and it's bigger
Speaker A:than what you're used to.
Speaker A:So instead I'm not squashing it and ignoring it.
Speaker A:I just looking at building a better relationship with self doubt and seeing it for
Speaker A:what it is.
Speaker A:Just the opportunity to keep me safe.
Speaker A:Because I can tell you right now there's a couple of relationships that are coming,
Speaker A:like collaborations that are happening early next year.
Speaker A:They're a stretch.
Speaker A:It's a big stretch for myself and my business
Speaker A:and our team and all these things.
Speaker A:And I'm like, yep, we're here,
Speaker A:we're here for it.
Speaker A:It feels good.
Speaker A:I am open to having the conversation.
Speaker A:So always recognizing self doubt when it shows
Speaker A:up.
Speaker A:And it will show up every single time you're
Speaker A:doing something new.
Speaker A:Okay, Number eight,
Speaker A:creativity actually isn't optional.
Speaker A:It's not optional, it's required when it comes to business.
Speaker A:And you know where the creativity comes from for me is when I allow myself to play.
Speaker A:Oh my gosh, I am such a kid at heart.
Speaker A:I really am.
Speaker A:And I grew up very early,
Speaker A:very fast and was literally an adult, I swear, in my young teen years.
Speaker A:And play was something that just seemed silly.
Speaker A:I didn't get it and I'm still not great at it.
Speaker A:But I do allow myself to lean into play.
Speaker A:Okay. To lean into play and recognize that it's actually productivity.
Speaker A:The amount of downloads and things that happen after play or during play is wild.
Speaker A:It like opens up creativity.
Speaker A:So it's actually becoming a bit of a strategy.
Speaker A:Where's the play?
Speaker A:If I'm finishing a sprint, where's the play? Where are we building it in?
Speaker A:What does it look like?
Speaker A:How are we celebrating that? How are we doing that?
Speaker A:And I'm making time for it.
Speaker A:It's incredible actually.
Speaker A:Honestly, it's so much fun.
Speaker A:Okay, number nine,
Speaker A:you know what success actually loves? It loves boundaries.
Speaker A:It loves boundaries.
Speaker A:So I shared a message earlier in the episode about boundaries where I didn't respond to
Speaker A:something that was sent to me that was pretty nasty.
Speaker A:And there have been a couple times already where I've had to put boundaries in place that
Speaker A:I can't do that right now.
Speaker A:I actually took a breakthrough day.
Speaker A:I've never done this before and it was hard
Speaker A:for me to do.
Speaker A:I had a breakthrough day scheduled.
Speaker A:It had been booked for months.
Speaker A:And I had to be very honest with myself.
Speaker A:We had just walked through a really difficult
Speaker A:few weeks, like, really hard, uncomfortable.
Speaker A:That took me away from work.
Speaker A:And I just had to be honest in the sense that could I deliver the breakthrough day for her?
Speaker A:Yeah, I could have.
Speaker A:And I think it would have just knocked me out for, like, weeks because I knew I was so low
Speaker A:in my tank and I know what's required for a breakthrough day.
Speaker A:So as hard as it was, I actually reached out to this client.
Speaker A:I'm like, I am so sorry.
Speaker A:I am wondering if you'd be open to rescheduling this because I don't think I
Speaker A:could deliver the best of myself to you today.
Speaker A:And because of that, if we can find, like, I'm willing to do any day of the week, I will make
Speaker A:it work.
Speaker A:And whatever that looks like, I will give you extra coaching until then.
Speaker A:And it worked out beautifully.
Speaker A:A couple things that was really interesting.
Speaker A:I actually did that and then it moved out the.
Speaker A:I think it was maybe three weeks.
Speaker A:It moved it back.
Speaker A:And then with that, the client said to me, can I thank you?
Speaker A:You showed me how to lead in a really difficult sit.
Speaker A:And I have never seen anybody lead in that way.
Speaker A:And that felt really good.
Speaker A:It was just a reminder that, like, the
Speaker A:boundaries are required.
Speaker A:Like, success requires and loves boundaries.
Speaker A:Because we are human beings leading ourselves in a business.
Speaker A:We have to listen.
Speaker A:We have to pour into ourselves and we have to
Speaker A:listen.
Speaker A:Okay, number 10.
Speaker A:Okay. There could be a whole episode on this.
Speaker A:I am not behind.
Speaker A:You're not behind.
Speaker A:You are exactly where you're meant to be.
Speaker A:I honestly don't love that, Satan.
Speaker A:I'm gonna say that I don't always love that because it feels like, seriously.
Speaker A:I have friends who are like 15 years younger than me who I would class as, like, having
Speaker A:tremendous success.
Speaker A:And I'm like,
Speaker A:kind of still pushing that snowball up the hill.
Speaker A:I am having success and I'm 55.
Speaker A:It gets harder as you get older.
Speaker A:It does.
Speaker A:And so not an excuse.
Speaker A:What it makes me do is makes me double down on
Speaker A:my own self care,
Speaker A:like my own fitness, my own nutrition.
Speaker A:Because it's important to be able to do this,
Speaker A:to do this work.
Speaker A:I am not behind.
Speaker A:If I don't trust that I am right on time.
Speaker A:What message am I subconsciously always sharing with clients?
Speaker A:You are always on time.
Speaker A:If you push faster than what your system can hold you and support you, you will be back on
Speaker A:the roller coaster of, like, highs and lows.
Speaker A:And that is not sustainable.
Speaker A:We want to Build something that lasts.
Speaker A:So I'm not behind? You are not behind.
Speaker A:I promise.
Speaker A:We're all learning and human beings in this
Speaker A:process.
Speaker A:So I'm curious Which lesson maybe one related to, maybe one didn't.
Speaker A:I love and appreciate you.
Speaker A:2025 has been a wild year in our business.
Speaker A:We have moved podcast platforms and I hope that none of you even notice because that was
Speaker A:the whole point is that you didn't even notice.
Speaker A:And we are sitting in that top 1.5.
Speaker A:So close to tipping the scales to the top 1%,
Speaker A:which doesn't sound like much, but there's 3.1 million podcasts worldwide,
Speaker A:so that is really freaking awesome.
Speaker A:Really freaking awesome.
Speaker A:And if you want to like, I'd love to know who you want to hear in the show for the next
Speaker A:year, what's going to unfold.
Speaker A:And if you want 2026 to be the year that you build your capacity, identity, regulation,
Speaker A:your business,
Speaker A:come and join us inside of either Outspoken, Unbothered or the Heartwired CEO mastermind.
Speaker A:We have two mentors for 12 months with incredible one on one work roundtables.
Speaker A:All the things this is the year coming into 2026, this is the year that the version of you
Speaker A:from even a year ago,
Speaker A:you can become unrecognizable.
Speaker A:You really can.
Speaker A:Your whole business can.
Speaker A:And you can.
Speaker A:And you're right on time.
Speaker A:I love you tons.
Speaker A:I hope you have an incredible holiday with your family, whatever that looks like.
Speaker A:Please honor yourself, listen to what you need, give back to yourself.
Speaker A:And yeah, let's make it an incredible year.
Speaker A:Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker A:I appreciate you so much.
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