Erin Nicholas and Laura Yamin
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Laura Yamin: Hi, Erin. Welcome to What Your Next podcast.
Erin Nicholas: Thank you so much. I'm excited to be here.
Laura Yamin: So excited to have you here. Tell us a little bit about yourself.
Erin Nicholas: My name is Erin Nicholas. I have been writing romance for, it feels like forever. I was first published in the very end of 2009, so I say 2010. So it's been a really long time. I have, I think it's over 70 books. It might even be 80. I don't know. People ask and I. I haven't counted in a long time, so it's a lot.
I just, I love everything about it. I love everything I do. So, yeah. I've been doing this for a long time.
Laura Yamin: You have been doing this for 16 years
Erin Nicholas: 16 years.
Laura Yamin: years,
Erin Nicholas: Yeah. Yeah,
Laura Yamin: actually nine, 16 years. We're in November,
Erin Nicholas: exactly. Yeah. That was the very first November, 2009. Yeah.
Laura Yamin: gosh, that's been a long time. So
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: have seen the shifts of trends of stuff because we had, you were in the early waves of self-publishing the
Erin Nicholas: Yep.
Laura Yamin: and then, and then
2016 new adult specific [00:01:00] world, and then
Erin Nicholas: All of that.
Laura Yamin: and then the 2020 space that
Erin Nicholas: Oh God. Yeah. I actually, I jokingly tell people, I mean, like before Kindle, like I was publishing with a small press called Sam Hoe. They were long around for a long time, but before Kindle was a thing, so we used to have to explain to readers how to get their eBooks onto their computers. So that was, yeah the dark ages.
Laura Yamin: Oh my gosh. So talk to us about your writing, like how did you get started? Because
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: is not as simple as I decide to write a book. I go, either I go to TR Pop, get an agent
which have, I've heard multiple times in this podcast, but also the self-publishing, which
There's a lot of information, how to do it, like how to get
Erin Nicholas: yeah.
Laura Yamin: a fairly easy process protocol. It wasn't, it's not easy, but it's, there's a lot of
Erin Nicholas: Right,
Laura Yamin: to make it
Erin Nicholas: right. Yeah.
Laura Yamin: there probably wasn't, the internet was,
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: social media. It's barely
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: like.
Erin Nicholas: Yeah. And back when I [00:02:00] started, so self-publishing wasn't really a thing when I got published, I published it with a small press. And so how that worked, so I've actually been, I've always wanted to be a writer, like honestly, since I was a little girl, my parents were readers and rewarded us for good grades with books and, books, trips to the bookstore was a thing.
And so I was lucky. I grew up in a reading household and so books were always a thing. Always wanted to be a writer. My parents still tease me about. Writing long handed a notebook on our family vacations. And my dad's favorite story is that he took us to Yellowstone, to see all the gorgeous scenery.
And I didn't see any of it 'cause I was scribbling in my notebook instead. And he'd be like, hello, look at the geysers. I know, I'd be like yeah, they all look the same. So yeah, so I've always been writing, I've always wanted to be a writer kind, wrote angsty poetry as a teenager and wrote short stories.
And I'll never forget though, in college I took a creative writings. A class and my professor [00:03:00] said, you should really try to get published. And that was like, oh my god, then so kind of started working on a novel. Of course it was a romance. I wrote, I read romance as a teenager. My mom introduced me to Joanna Lindsay and Julie Garwood and all of that.
But then took time off to go to grad school. 'cause I was, I'm a physical therapist as well, and grad school was grueling and so there was no time. And then graduated from grad school with enormous debt and said, I'll just write a book and pay that off. That seems easy, right?
Laura Yamin: Oh
Erin Nicholas: And of course that's not how it works everybody.
But anyway, that was my motivation. Finished that and started querying like you do, to agents and TRA publishing and that was the thing. And a friend of mine, Lucy Monroe, who's a published author with Harlequin many books she was a critique partner of mine through Romance Writers of America was kind of a mentor.
And so she. Had been published with Sam Hane as well, mentioned me to her [00:04:00] editor. Long story short, her editor read one of my books and that's how that all happened. So I was actually published with a publisher first and then. 2014, self-publishing is exploding. I actually was a little late to it, honestly, and an author friend said, you need to do this.
And so I said, okay. So I was still publishing with Sam Hane, but I had another book idea that I self-published and then. That all took off, so I was doing both. I've also been published traditionally with New York and with Mott Lake, with Amazon, so I've
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Erin Nicholas: done it all. So, yeah, it's been a, I mean, a long time, but I've gotten to do a lot of things and I feel like my bucket list has ni lots of nice check marks on it, so I'm very lucky.
Laura Yamin: That sounds amazing. I think it's like you've being able to see the revolution from the 12 20 12, we,
Erin Nicholas: yeah.
Laura Yamin: Ks open up the windows for everything too and to see the explosion that it has grown over time. Like
Erin Nicholas: It's amazing.
Laura Yamin: it's amazing and it's
Erin Nicholas: Yeah,
Laura Yamin: [00:05:00] like the industry has shifted.
Yes. 2020 broad
Erin Nicholas: sure.
Laura Yamin: mainstream, especially reading wellness mainstream, and
Erin Nicholas: Yep.
Laura Yamin: It's making it like a place where people are not ashamed of doing
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: and little alone reading romance. Like it's
Erin Nicholas: For sure. And I think social media has done that, right? People get on and talk about it openly and then Barnes and Noble puts out huge tables and it's all become a lot more cool. Yeah.
Laura Yamin: because you worked for a while, they, we were not selling books. They were
Erin Nicholas: Absolutely. It is a roller coaster. And I guess I tell people that's, people are like, what advice do you have? And it's just if you are not a person who's good with change and who's good with pivoting and having other people like cause chaos in your life, this is not the job for you.
Because
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Erin Nicholas: self-publishing you have so much control, but still there's such, there's so many forces always at work. So
Laura Yamin: it's
Erin Nicholas: yeah.
Laura Yamin: It's just like basically you're shifting. Like right now, audio is the
New thing. And like
Erin Nicholas: yeah,
Laura Yamin: audio, you have to [00:06:00] write for audio, which is a whole different ball game
For a
Erin Nicholas: yeah,
Laura Yamin: reader who's gonna read physically or reading for a
Erin Nicholas: for sure.
Laura Yamin: And like having, think about like the formats and how it's consumed and then how it's actually shared. And then also how a thick
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: Reviews are for readers, but readers feel like in invade author spaces too, and have an
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: critiques and it's
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: what am I doing?
Erin Nicholas: Yeah, you gotta, the thick skin thing is real for sure. Audio is fascinating, right? Because audio rose so quickly and now there's all this too, where it started off like when my first books were put in audio, just a single narrator, just a nice voice reading you a book. Now it's like dual and duet and full cast and all this stuff.
It's just, it's amazing how complete.
Laura Yamin: and the narrators are just as important as the actual
Erin Nicholas: Yeah. I'm an audio girly. I love audio, so
Laura Yamin: me
Erin Nicholas: I'm that girl.
Laura Yamin: not thought, I did not think I was gonna be an audio girly until I was like, holy crap. Like I can listen to this. And for me, what's been great [00:07:00] is been I listen at night
Erin Nicholas: Mm-hmm.
Laura Yamin: to bed. So I usually listen cozy mysteries, 'cause nothing happens.
And
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: like, like there, that's the whole point.
Erin Nicholas: Right.
Laura Yamin: essentially it's like reparenting my inner child, like actually
Erin Nicholas: Oh.
Laura Yamin: story. So I'd
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: associate audio is falling
Erin Nicholas: That's so true.
Laura Yamin: an easy way.
Erin Nicholas: For sure.
I love that though. I love that. And I love that whole, you don't have to worry, right? Like you can go to sleep with this story because you don't have to worry. And that's
Laura Yamin: don't have to worry
Erin Nicholas: so valuable.
Laura Yamin: So, yes. Erin, let's go on Merry Mayhem, which
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: you're Christmas
Erin Nicholas: Yay.
Laura Yamin: slash It's a little bit longer than novella, but not long. Like too long.
Erin Nicholas: Yes.
Laura Yamin: it's a happy medium.
Erin Nicholas: It is. It's a long novella short novel. Yeah. It's like right in the middle.
Laura Yamin: So we, we are sat in a town where there's
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: where there's mayhem.
Erin Nicholas: Yep.
Laura Yamin: it's hijinks. There's the typical Christmas stuff, but there's higher
Erin Nicholas: much so.
Laura Yamin: happening, and it's just
Erin Nicholas: Yeah. [00:08:00] Yeah. I told somebody that it's as if the movie, while you were Sleeping,
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Erin Nicholas: met American Ninja Warrior. So you have, while you were sleeping and that family and all the craziness, and it's definitely Christmas, but then you have this huge contest. This town has a contest called Mary Mayhem and it goes over three days and it's multiple events that people participate in.
And so there's an obstacle course and a relay race and cookie decorating and all of this stuff. And so our heroine and heroine are matched up. As teammates for this Mary Mayhem and so yeah,
Laura Yamin: I know. It's just mayhem.
Erin Nicholas: mayhem. It lives up to its name for sure. Yes. So horse proximity with Christmas cookies,
Laura Yamin: what more can you ask
Erin Nicholas: right?
Laura Yamin: Talk to us about the writing process during writing this, I'm assuming off season, not holiday
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: This probably took place maybe in the summer when it was
Erin Nicholas: Well. If I was a [00:09:00] better planner, it would have, this happened actually in September. So this was a very oh, I think I'm gonna write a Christmas book. So it wasn't quite as off season as I have before. I have written Christmas books in July. But you know, if you turn on Christmas music and get a really good peppermint mocha going.
You can do it if you put your headphones on and that Christmas music, if Mariah carries in your head, you can write Christmas in September.
Laura Yamin: Yeah. So what's your favorite thing about writing Christmas? You've written more multiple books
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: What's your favorite?
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: like the Traditions? Is it the
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: Nest? Is it like the idea of I hate Christmas and here's all the things that are wrong, to fall in love with it
Erin Nicholas: I, so I write predominantly small town. I have a few that aren't, but almost my entire catalog is small town and I'm from small towns. I've spent my whole life in small towns. And I would tell you, I think that small towns are at their best at Christmas. Right. Everything is glittery and pretty and people are happy and [00:10:00] generous and ha smiling all the time.
And so I think it's that, I think it's that just that spirit, and
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Erin Nicholas: things that happen at Christmas just can't happen other times of the year, right? You can't hang a plant above a doorway and expect people to kiss
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Erin Nicholas: any other time of the year. That's creepy. Any other time of the year.
Laura Yamin: Yeah. It's what can you ask for? Or you have a Christmas tree in the middle of your house.
Erin Nicholas: Right? Yeah. You put up a tree and put lights on it. People would think you were weird if it was like, may,
Laura Yamin: Yes. Oh no. We can do a, a summer holiday
Erin Nicholas: Let's normalize trees with lights in our living rooms.
Laura Yamin: Yes. Or tree or light. Or prairie lights. Or lights outside of the space and
Erin Nicholas: agree. I agree. The people who decorate for every holiday, like just go all out and like their porches are decorated every single. I actually really admire that because I don't have the energy for that, but I enjoy it as an observer. Like I'll drive by your house and smile every single time.
So thank you to all of you who do [00:11:00] all that all the time.
Laura Yamin: Yes. I love I love the idea of decorating. It's something I'm like, I am like, oh, it's actually work.
Erin Nicholas: It's a lot of work and it's the taking down too. That's always my thing. Like I don't mind the putting up.
Laura Yamin: it
Erin Nicholas: the taking down.
Laura Yamin: out and making sure that it makes sense the next year.
Erin Nicholas: Right,
Laura Yamin: 'cause you don't
Erin Nicholas: right.
Laura Yamin: buy new things and everything,
Erin Nicholas: I know. I know. I tell people, so I married a Grinch, and so my Christmas decorating is like. Poking him that, which is the fun. So taking it down isn't as fun. The putting up is fun because it drives him crazy
Laura Yamin: there we go.
Erin Nicholas: and after 30 years together, there has to be something,
Laura Yamin: There had to be something. You
Erin Nicholas: right.
Laura Yamin: have a little,
Erin Nicholas: I can't let him get complacent. I can't let him get too comfortable, so I add to the Christmas stuff every year and just watch him roll his eyes and,
Laura Yamin: So for listeners to are picking up your book, Mary Mayhem for
Erin Nicholas: yeah.
Laura Yamin: time and they wanna listen, they wanna go back to your back list. Where do you recommend to get started?[00:12:00]
Erin Nicholas: So Mary Mayhem is the first book in a new series, which is kind of fun for me. So it's like a kickoff. So if you wanna get to know my new series, this is a great place to start. It starts us in a new town that is going to kick off a series that then the next like book start. It comes in January. But it is in a world.
So I have built this world on the Louisiana Bayou and I have multiple series. Set there. And I would say this book is probably the most close in like tone to a series called Boys of the Bayou Gone Wild.
Laura Yamin: Okay.
Erin Nicholas: in that series it's eight books. It's seven books in a and an actual novella. It's, but in that book, in that series, this group of people, they start off with just a little petting zoo and it slowly grows into this huge animal park over time.
And so you're in Louisiana.
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Erin Nicholas: you end up with penguins and giraffes, and I'm not even [00:13:00] joking, like real live penguins and giraffes. And you'll have to read to see how that works out. It actually does. But this group of people, these friends and brothers and cousins and the women they fall in love with slowly bring animals to the bayou and they have a petting zoo that turns into an animal park.
And so that, if that sounds crazy and over the top, it is, it's very, it's a funny hijinx type of series. And I would say it's probably the most close in like tone to what this new series is gonna be.
Laura Yamin: Well, I'm excited to go back and read the series because I'm like, penguins in the Bayou. What is happening
Erin Nicholas: I mean, yeah. If that sounds crazy. It is. It is.
Laura Yamin: Yes.
Erin Nicholas: And the way that it happens, the way those penguins get there is a little crazy, but it's fun. It's all fun.
Laura Yamin: I love this. Alright, so let's talk some book relations. What
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: do you like to read? What type of
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: do you go for?
Erin Nicholas: I read what I write. I believe in escapism. I love to just sit down and get lost in a story, and that's what I wanna give to my readers. And so I read. Crazy rom-coms. [00:14:00] And so my favorite authors are Pippa Grant Megan Quinn, Tessa Bailey, Kate Canterbury Helena Hunting. So all of those ladies I would recommend.
So the most recently, I just finished actually in a rush by Kate Canterbury, which is one of her friendship Rhode Island books. But my favorite Kate Canterbury, and this is the one I tell everybody is called Shucked and it, have you read it?
Laura Yamin: yes. I read it.
Erin Nicholas: I, and here's what I love about that book. It encapsulates what I love to write.
It is fish out of water, right? You take this millionaire guy and you stick him in a small town that is over the top and the entire book. He is what the hell is going on? And that is my favorite thing. And then he becomes like protective and falls in love with everybody in spite of himself, right?
That is. My favorite thing. So Shucked by Kate Canterbury. Also pretty much anything Pippa Grant, I would say. I especially like her hockey series, though, like [00:15:00] old Pippa Grant is always good. The Copper Valley thrusters, all of those guys are great. And then Helena Hunting's new hockey series.
I'm loving that. I'm reading all of those as they come out. And then I read Tessa Bailey's Fan Girl Down. Have you read that one?
Laura Yamin: Yes, I have.
Erin Nicholas: I,
Laura Yamin: good. Is the one, the golf one that she's
Anybody?
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: yeah. That It's so good.
Erin Nicholas: It's so good. I think it's so fresh, right? First of all, like who? I mean, if you told me golf hot hero, I would've been like, no, sorry. But yeah.
And my favorite part of that is, again, is this guy. I constantly going, why do I feel this way? Why? How am I falling in love with this? Crazy woman who's turning my life upside down. But that is my favorite. That is my favorite thing to do to heroes. And so that's what I love to write.
Laura Yamin: you just made me? I'm like, no, I need to read more of those. Like, why am I falling in love with you?
Unique beat. Because it's like
The complete opposite, it's
Opposites of [00:16:00] track, it's just it's a questioning of don't make sense, but yet
Erin Nicholas: Yes.
Laura Yamin: want you.
Erin Nicholas: And like they realize it. That's my favorite thing is when they realize.
Am falling in love with you, and this makes zero sense. Like you are going to make my life so hard,
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Erin Nicholas: but I cannot resist you, and I'm going to just Okay, fine. Turn my life upside down. Fine. It's my favorite thing.
Laura Yamin: Oh my gosh. Yeah. That series is actually pretty good. I like dream girl drama. I like the stepsister.
Erin Nicholas: I haven't read that one yet. Okay.
Laura Yamin: A little
Erin Nicholas: I'm writing it down.
Laura Yamin: But it worked
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: I, it's like it, it's not too forbidden. It's just like they're not supposed to be together, but
Erin Nicholas: Right.
Laura Yamin: Fun one. I really enjoyed that one. I read it in one setting.
I was like, oh,
Erin Nicholas: Oh, perfect. I'm writing that down then. Yeah. Yeah.
Laura Yamin: so,
Erin Nicholas: I just I think that if you are, and I think Pippa and Tessa both do this really well, Kate too. I think if you are gonna go over the top, you just have to go. You just have to lean in. And they both do that really well. So if you.
Laura Yamin: Pippa Grant. So I'd [00:17:00] actually, you just pointed out, I'm like, no, I need to prioritize Pippa.
Erin Nicholas: Yeah. Yeah, I do. You just have to, you just have to know though, going in, that's what it's gonna be. And so if you're not like, I think sometimes you have to be in the mood for that. I get it. I totally get it. But if you're in the mood for that, those girls will deliver every time.
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Erin Nicholas: Yeah,
Laura Yamin: Hunting, I think Pucked series is still top notch. Is like such an
Erin Nicholas: yeah. Yeah.
Laura Yamin: She is she's the most, so,
Erin Nicholas: I know. I think it's so great with Helena, you can tell how much she loves
Laura Yamin: yeah.
Erin Nicholas: the hockey and the people she's writing about. Like she just really loves her characters and her stories. I just feel like you can just feel that. So, yeah.
Laura Yamin: do you have, I know you shared some recommendations. Do you have any books to recommend or,
Erin Nicholas: Those are always the ones. If people are like, what should I read? That's kind of like yours, but something D, those are the ones. So, and then I'm like, well, and if you've already read those, then I think just go into those girls' back list. Those are
Laura Yamin: Perfect.
Erin Nicholas: yeah.
Laura Yamin: Perfect. I appreciate,
Erin Nicholas: and Melanie Morland, if you haven't read like My favorite [00:18:00] kidnapper.
Laura Yamin: no. What is.
Erin Nicholas: Oh my God. Okay, so. It's so hard to explain. So he, this billionaire kidnaps this baker because he wants her to make him cakes, like he falls in love with her cakes and he, this dude, I have never read a more over the top hero. I actually texted one of my readers who's a, huge Melanie Moreland fan and I was like, oh my god, this guy is like so much
Laura Yamin: I want the food just
Erin Nicholas: Oh yeah.
Laura Yamin: kidnap a baker,
Erin Nicholas: and they totally don't get along when they first meet, so he's she's not gonna just agree to work for me, so I have to kidnap her.
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Erin Nicholas: Takes her to Italy and like his villa and like it's, and so she agrees to it. She's not really under duress, but, it's just, it's so over the top.
I mean, if you like that kind of like romcom humor it's great. It's so great.
Laura Yamin: gosh. Oh gosh. I appreciate your recommendations. 'cause I'm like a romcom reader
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: I'm like, oh no, I need to go back to it. So you, you said my, again, reading [00:19:00] TBR
Erin Nicholas: For sure. Yeah. My, that's about all I read. Once in a while people will recommend a dark mafia to me and I'm like, okay, I'll try. And I get to about page 20 and I'm like this, I'm just not the right reader for this, and that's okay.
Laura Yamin: you
Erin Nicholas: I totally get it. Yeah.
Laura Yamin: has some mafia romcom.
Erin Nicholas: Okay. Yeah.
Laura Yamin: love
Erin Nicholas: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: Love Most Fatal . She is the dawn, she's like the head of the mafia and the actual, the love interest is a teacher that she went on a blind date and then she
Erin Nicholas: Oh, she's the mafia.
Laura Yamin: she is the mafia.
Erin Nicholas: I like that a lot.
Laura Yamin: She is, it tears every upside down and
Erin Nicholas: love that.
Laura Yamin: and he's a teacher.
He's and then he realizes what the fuck I want juniors, they're almost gonna kill him. So she has to
Erin Nicholas: I love that.
Laura Yamin: She puts
Erin Nicholas: Oh my God. Yeah. I'm reading that. I'm gonna read that.
Laura Yamin: is it's over the top and then he has to for her 'cause she needs to marry off. And he's the one who is actually interviewing the mafiosos.
Erin Nicholas: I am all over it. My editor, she said that, she goes, [00:20:00] I feel like she goes so not mafia for you. I go, well, I mean, I could make like a mafia. He accidentally ends up in this bayou town trying to hide out, and they're all like, Hey, I know your grandma, blah, blah. This is how my town is. Everybody's in this business.
And she's oh, now I'm going to want you to write that. And so mine would be like, ridiculous. But
Laura Yamin: like there's a need in the mafia romcom space. There Is there, is it? It's
Erin Nicholas: there's a gap.
Laura Yamin: for me. I have people recommend it, like
Erin Nicholas: I'm loving that.
Laura Yamin: and we have serial killer romcoms.
Erin Nicholas: It's so true. It's so true. I.
Laura Yamin: We have stalker romcoms. So I'm
Erin Nicholas: I do.
Laura Yamin: can't we just have mafi ro
Erin Nicholas: You've got a point. You've got a point. That is what I do love about the current market is just like anything does, right? Like you write it and there's gonna be readers for it. Because we're all so different and we're all willing, I feel like people are a lot more willing to give new things a try now, don't you?
I feel like maybe the pandemic did that to us. I don't know.
Laura Yamin: like, honestly, like the stuff that we now, that's so mainstream, [00:21:00] why choose is a big one.
Erin Nicholas: Yep.
Laura Yamin: Monsters, any type of monsters.
Erin Nicholas: Yep.
Laura Yamin: shapeshifters like door romance
Erin Nicholas: that's a good point.
Laura Yamin: and the Thanksgiving food shifter that
Erin Nicholas: Yeah,
Laura Yamin: in love with the, we fall in love with the pillow, like that kind of
Erin Nicholas: that's a good point.
Laura Yamin: and it still works,
Erin Nicholas: that's a good point. There's an audience for everything.
Laura Yamin: There's an audience for everyone. I actually, I, I joke around, I'm a monitor for one author and we're trying, she does shorts and I, she wanted you to do like the, I was like, let's do Park Rangers, and she has a whole Park Ranger series
Erin Nicholas: Park rangers are hot.
Laura Yamin: that there's a whole interest in Park Rangers
Erin Nicholas: Yeah. Yeah. I have a couple park rangers like department of Natural Resources, right? Yeah, I have a couple.
Laura Yamin: Like you niche it down and people are like, I
Erin Nicholas: Love it.
Laura Yamin: that.
Erin Nicholas: There's just, they're so rugged, you know what I mean? Like they're law enforcement, but not like bad law enforcement.
Laura Yamin: They're like, rugged. They're
Erin Nicholas: Yeah,
Laura Yamin: They're
Erin Nicholas: wild animals and like[00:22:00]
Laura Yamin: Outdoor
Erin Nicholas: Absolutely. Love it. Love it.
Laura Yamin: Awesome. All right, Erin, tell us, we can find now my.
Erin Nicholas: Erin nicholas.com is my website. I'm also very active on Facebook. I have a superfan group, Erin Nicholas Superfans on Facebook that I'm in every single day. Lovely group of readers. I love them very much. And I also have a author Facebook page, and I'm on Instagram, Erin Nicholas books.
Laura Yamin: Awesome. Thank you, Erin, for being in the
Erin Nicholas: Yeah. Thank you. This is so great.
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