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Today is 10 minutes of tennis with World-Renowned Tennis Coach Australian in Puerto Rico, Justin

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Yeo or as our two and a half year old calls him "Yuston Joe."

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Because with the Spanish flipping of the letters, the "J" is a "Y" and the "Y" is a

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"J" so you are "Yaston Joe."

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"Yostuno."

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There you go.

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We'll take that too.

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We'll take that too.

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So today we are talking about conferences and a bit of this is related to and directly

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related to the fact that you and I just got back from conferences.

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And I want to talk about the fact that I was unconvinced 20 years ago.

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I will give a shout out if that's the right phrase to another mentor that I had for a

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while, Daryl Lewis, who was doing his best to convince younger, dumber Sean to go to

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these conferences and be able to invest in myself.

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I didn't see it Justin.

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I get it now.

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How do we help everybody else get it?

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Well we've brought this up before about Ego's.

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Maybe it's just as we're younger it's hard to calm down the Ego.

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Because as you mature you start to realize calm everything down, the arrogance drops and

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you start to get a little smarter and wiser.

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So maybe it's, you know, I won't say it's necessarily a male thing, but I could say that us males,

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it takes us a little while to mature.

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I've heard that before.

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I'm in my 50s now and I've heard multiple times that I've matured and I've changed.

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And so maybe that's a little bit about it.

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But I think the message we have to get clearer to the tennis industry is that yes, if they

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do invest the time and the effort in the long run they're going to get ahead quicker.

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And that's sort of I think a good point for this generation because I'm in a lot of

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investment stuff and a lot of other company stuff.

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And I meet a lot of late 30s to early 40 year olds that are extremely successful.

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Already sold companies built theirs, built that.

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Now they're building this and they're using all the, I would call, you know, 30, 40 year old

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using their youth to grow more and build.

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But the only way they did that is they focused on mentors growing, focusing on business early

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days, trying to, I guess the word less party mode and more business mode.

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And I've met a lot of them.

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So I feel like this generation is trying to get to, you know, they call it the B mark instead

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of the M mark.

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So they want to be B and S. And so the only way to get that is you got to start early.

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And the only way to start early for the generation that are in their 20s right now in the tennis

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pros is get to conferences, get networking, get mentors underneath you, you know, connect

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to people that are all the new that have similarities.

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But I would say out of business, I've met a lot of big guys that connect and work together

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with mentors.

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Tony Robbins talks about it all the time that, you know, he wouldn't be where he is without

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all these mentors.

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And I think in the tennis industry we can do more of that.

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And I think shout out to, you know, your new association, it could be a real driving force

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to literally start the momentum of this to get more and more conferences.

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So all, even the conferences really have stopped filling them up more, which brings more

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intentions, brings more exhibitors, it brings everything.

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So yeah.

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And I think the ARA, I appreciate you bringing that up because yes, the American Ragnar sports

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association is focused on professional networking.

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So obviously we have a direct line into it and a bias toward it, of course, now.

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You mentioned ego when we were young, the biggest detractor, if that's the right word, for me

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was just the money.

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I used the example when you and I were talking previously, I said, I'm going to miss $500

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of coaching in a single day and it's going to cost me $1,000 to go to this thing.

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So now I'm kind of, I'm net out about $1,500.

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How I can't see the ROI immediately.

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And that's difficult when you're young.

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Yeah, well, again, you just have to sit down and talk about what the investment is, where

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the value is.

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And I think that's the key factor is also, you know, I've got a 20 year old son staying

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with me right now.

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And I just sat down with him yesterday and I said, the sooner you start setting up assets

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and investments, the sooner you're going to get yourself ahead, even if it's $500, even

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if it's $100.

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So soon you start having the mindset of savings, assets and investments.

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And so any pro that's in these 20s and is crushing, you know, a little bit of lessons, even

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if you're in the 20s, you got more energy.

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So guess what?

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If it's going to cost you $1,500 or it's going to be $2,000, go work yourself for a couple

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of months earlier, add a couple more lessons so you can afford to take that time and go

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to do what you got to do.

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Why?

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I will say this, you're only going to get to your $200 or $250 or $300 an hour if this is what

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you want to be as a tennis pro by having the knowledge and showing the capabilities of really

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earning that kind of money per hour.

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And the only way you do that is go into the conferences and getting the kind of accreditation

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and accreditation doesn't necessarily mean certifications or qualifications.

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You get accredited, you get all these, you know, great information that hands out on the court

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and then people just strive on it and say, hey, I want to pay more.

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You're so good.

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I want to pay more.

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So I would highly suggest if it's business, if you're looking to go into the track of business

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in tennis because tennis has grown so much now.

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The tournaments are bigger and I've seen a lot of great tennis pros fall into the executive

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world, especially in tennis Australia, which got them off the court, but still in the game

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and love doing what they do.

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Yeah, and we talk about the interest in networking.

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We talk about going and learning and it's one thing to have the data from a guy like Craig

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O'Shawnis or a guy like Mark Kovacs or some of the world class people we have this data

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and it's one thing to have it.

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It's another thing to meet the person, get to know them and become a friend and become

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a colleague and actually sit down and talk to them because that helps with credibility.

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If you're looking to like you said, raise prices or increase your profile.

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We talk about raising your profile publicly a lot and saying, okay, well, what do I care

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about raising my profile?

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Well, if you're working your way up in any industry, that's going to make a big difference

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because people are going to be able to see you publicly.

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They're going to be able to know that you're knowledgeable.

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They're going to see competence and that's going to be good.

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Again, in the long run, which is hard to see short term.

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Quick examples because I know we try to keep this under 10 minutes.

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We almost never do.

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But a player example, right?

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There are things like tennis con and there are online conferences that players can

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invest in.

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I just use that one as a single example.

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I have no investment in tennis con.

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But you can go in, you can learn a little bit, maybe you get a little bit better, you go

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in your next match.

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A coach as an example, we met, here's my theory, I've got a new theory, Justin.

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Let me know what you think about this.

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When people go to these things, they say, well, if I only get at least one thing out of

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it, it'll all be worth it.

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Have you ever heard anybody say that?

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Yeah.

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I decided to take that to the next level.

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I said to my wife, I said, I want 10 of those things.

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I want 10 things that we could say, if only that happened, this whole weekend would be

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worth it.

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I wanted 10 of those.

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I went out and got 11 of them.

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So you get out of it, but you put into it, too, right?

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Yeah.

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If you take notes and you really go after it, each day you can get way more than 10.

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I could probably get 10 every day.

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Just even think about the moments of the people I spoke to or a cell phone number that I connected

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to that I would have never been able to speak to the guy again.

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So many things.

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That person could be connecting you to another person because you connected with him.

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There's massive advantages to the conferences.

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I would say just because I have a little bit of sports performance background and whatever

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else, if there's something that you've got a little niche,

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there's a chance maybe you could become more of a life coach because what I've been offered

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multiple times is to become a life coach for people because as a tennis player, we tend

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to hear people's lives and do a lot of that stuff on the court.

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We tend to also use what we're good at and that is every 30 seconds we move on.

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So we have this perspective brain thought that happens that people can't seem to figure

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out how to use it at day to day well.

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So I've been offered many times to learn life coaching so you could go to another track

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of another conference to learn a different side that they will make you more effective on

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the court and then again that only ups your possibilities of going in different directions

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on the tennis world.

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So there are definitely ways of using the conferences.

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Yeah, some good real world examples there at the end, I appreciate that.

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And call to action people.

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Go find a conference even if you've got to take a day off from what is revenue generating.

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Go meet some people, try it, it will work.

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We have proven that it works.

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Every industry has some version of it so go out and get that done.

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Just anything else before we go?

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Yeah, I would just say look, anyone out there needs help.

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Reach out to us, we'd be able to help direct you, help talk to you, help consult a little

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bit, they say hey, maybe try this, maybe try that.

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Or give you some ideas on how to also put money aside and be smart about, you know, a return

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of investment, investment in yourself.

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All right, contact information is always in the show notes.

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Justin, thank you so much.

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This has been 10 minutes of tennis with World Red Hound tennis coach Australian and Puerto Rico

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Justin, you know, thank you sir.

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We'll see you next week.

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Cheers, mate.

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