Hey, everybody. Welcome back to another edition of the Daily Bible Podcast. Hey, chip and Joanna Gaines have been making the news lately. Okay. Coming out firing. They're doing this TV show with these two guys. Yep. And you talked about it in your sermon. I did. And you said more than I just said right now yep. I feel like I'm unsafe territory here. How should we feel about it? Should we stop watching the show? If we were watching the show and if Chip and Joanna Gaines were coming to your church, pastor pj, what would you do about this? Yeah. Great. Great questions, both of 'em. Question number one I think is broader. I think it really comes down to. We can ask ourselves some questions about our entertainment choices in general. It's hard to escape, unfortunately that in any of the venues that you go to today or any of the shows that you watch, you turn on a survivor, it's gonna be there. You turn on a, greatest race, it's gonna be there. And even kids TV shows, movies, TV shows. Yeah, it's there. And I think that's, they're the characters that are clearly not for sure the right. And just look at the response to Bluey. I think there's been, people love Bluey because there's none of that on there. It's also a really good show. It's gonna be real. Yeah. Yeah, that's also true. It's high quality entertainment, but I think's I watch it by myself. Just kidding. I'll repeat in your office. You're like, oh, this is my favorite episode. Dude, that dream episode is where the dog is there and they've got a problem. Episode is clutch. Yeah. But it's hard to find where it's not there. And so the question is. And there's some gray area here of the subjectivity of when is your conscience going to feel like they're glorifying something that Christ died for? And whether it's that or whether it's, an immoral relationship that's on screen between a man and a woman, or whether it's. Alcohol is whatever it may be. We have to make decisions on our entertainment. That is what we're taking in to say, okay, am I being entertained by something that put Christ on the cross? And is this a, an entertainment that's really edifying me? Is this, am I glorifying God? In how I'm taking this in in, in back to the case study with Chip and Joanna Gaines and this TV show. I think the fact that they have doubled down publicly so hard on this now and come out in such, oh, did they Strong support on it, chip. Specifically on Twitter when asking people, this is ask questions and he alluded to the fact that there might be something more that's happening behind the scenes. Yeah. And I thought, okay, maybe there is something that would explain it. Yeah. But so far there's been silence about all of that. And in fact, the contrary the couple that's on the show that's being spotlighted, their whole intention was to bring. Bring something like this and make it more normal. For sure. So it sounds and there's other suggestions that what they've said in the past is also demonstrates a kind of support for something like this. For sure. And so I do think that there's questions that we have to ask to go, okay, maybe. We need to send a message. If sending the message is something as easy as turning off the TV and not watching a show, then let's count ourselves. Blessed. We're about to jump into one Peter and one Peter's gonna talk about Blessed are you and you're persecuted for the name of Jesus Christ. And let's not conflate these two things by not being able to watch a TV show that maybe we were interested in versus somebody who's actually being persecuted for their faith. So I think this is a low hanging fruit for us as Christians, to be like, yeah, we're gonna make a decision to not watch that show because it glorifies something that we don't agree with, that the Bible doesn't agree with, that Christ had to die for. Yeah, so I, I think it's good for us to do that. And it goes beyond that too. They've got a whole, they've got a whole marketing arm of Magnolia that you go into Target and you see all their stuff everywhere there, and it's I think there is something to know. You may think that dish is really cute. But you now have to reconcile with the knowledge that you possess. And that's what changes for us as Christians, when all of a sudden now we have knowledge about where they're coming from and who they're, and what they stand for. That perhaps before we didn't know, maybe they've always believed these things, and you could go and buy the things freely from their store, watch their show because you didn't know where they fell on this. Now, and we're accountable to a degree, to the knowledge that we have to make a decision based on your own conscience so that you don't sin against your conscience. What you need to do with that as far as do you continue to buy their goods? Do you continue to watch the show so forth? And so for me, I'm not watching the show. I'm gonna struggle to, to walk through their aisles at Target anymore and think that I want to even support them financially by buying anything that they're making. That's me. I can't. Chapter and verse impose that upon Christians across the board, but that's where I'm at. That's the answer to the first part of your question there. Follow up on that? Yeah. Follow up would be they're going to your church. What do you do about that? Yeah. If I'm their pastor, then we're having a meeting. This is a Matthew 18 situation wherein you've got them. Purveying and promoting something that is clearly unbiblical. Now, the pastor of the church came out and made a statement and said, look, marriage is between a man and a woman alone. Great. Then you need to have Chip and Joanna sit down in your office with you and you need to say, Hey, guys, what you're doing, what you're promoting in this show is not okay. Now, if I'm misinformed, help me understand. And Chip, you wanted me to listen. Okay. I'll listen. Help me understand what's going on right now. But from the outside looking at this looks like this is a problem, biblically speaking, and I do think it's a Matthew 18 situation, and if they're at my church and they're gonna resist that, then it follows the process of Matthew 18 of church discipline until the final stages, if they're not going to repent from what they're doing. Yeah, this is a difficult situation in part because we don't know what's going on behind the scenes, and Chip suggested that there's more than what meets the eye. I don't know what that could be. That would end the criticism or provide a justification for it. But let's just say, okay, maybe there's something behind the scenes that we don't know. Maybe contractually they have to, or maybe there's something where they don't have control over what they're doing and they're being told this is what they have to do. I guess part of me wants to say is there. Is there any room whatsoever to say, look, we, this looks really bad. This is a bad thing. We shouldn't platform this. We shouldn't say that. This is okay. We shouldn't give any hints that sin is in any way acceptable to God. Don't call evil good. Don't call good evil. As Isaiah will say what room is there for us to withhold judgment? Or is there, would you say it's cut and dry? It's absolutely clear. Is there any place for us to withhold judgment? I guess that's really Mike, my question. I, in this situation I don't think there is if Chip was to say, Hey, contractually we're obligated to do this, then a again, there's a conversation to be had about counting the cost of what it means to follow Jesus. If that means you walk away from your TV show because you're being asked to platform something that you know is against the Lord's commands and clear teaching in scripture, then you walk away from your TV show. That's what those two brothers did with the other TV show, right? Yeah. And I, in, in, in this particular situation. I, yeah, I remember him saying, listen and love and whatever that was all about. There was another thing that was happening concurrently with this, where there was somebody on her staff, a photographer for them that works for them, who brought a third person home to become part of the family in a non-biblical format, if that makes sense. If I'm. If you're picking up clear as mud and the husband said, this is what the reality is gonna be, and told the wife, you're gonna this and. The, he was getting blow back and rightly and he went online and complained about it and threw a pity party about how he was getting blowback for being a immoral wretch. And she jumped on there and she comments, this is Joanna Gaines, and said, we love you. You are a good person. In response to him saying, I shouldn't be judged for the fact that I now have a throuple rather than a couple. I don't like that word that came out. That's weird. That came out at the same time. So those things in combination for me I don't have. I don't have patience for Chip and Joanna at this point. Like they're coming in, we're sitting down, we're saying, Hey, we've got some things that we need to talk through. I don't see a biblical justification for what's going on here. I can't, and yeah. Yeah, I guess it's important to recognize that when we're. I guess we're spectators. We're trying to see and understand it. It is appropriate for your words to be used against you. That's what God's gonna judge us on in part because our words reveal our heart. So it's not wrong to look at the words that someone says and make assessments about those things. I think there is a line for us to be careful not to cross. We should say that's condemning evidence. But we also have to be careful and understand there is a process for things like this. It just so happens that their lives are so public and I don't know. So obvious to other people that it's easy for us on the outside to, to make quick judgements about them. But suppose your pastor's having conversations and maybe there's repentance forthcoming. We just don't know. Now what we do wanna avoid is what happened with Yeezy, with Kanye. He makes a profession of faith and everybody is, we're lit up and everyone's excited about him. And then of course now he's the furthest thing from that, and he's calling Jesus all sorts of bad names. We don't wanna be, I. Coldhearted such that we don't celebrate those things. We don't want to be judgmental that we quickly write people off. There has to be an appropriate sense of let's just wait and see what happens while still being shrewd and wise. And I think it's a really tough balance to strike, especially with the Gaines, is because they've built a whole platform on, or Christians, we love the Lord and we're doing this as a way to glorify God. And so we have high expectations of that, especially in our camp. We don't allow you to do that without. Backing it up with a life that reflects that. So I feel for them and I feel bad for them, but I do hope they repent and they make clear very soon what the true biblical stance is on marriage. Yeah. Yeah. We've got less chapters today in our daily Bible reading. Our daily Bible reading today is Isaiah 35 and 36, and we're coming off a day yesterday, four chapters. Lots of material, lots of ground to cover in those four chapters. Today, we've got two chapters. And Pastor Rod, you mentioned before we hit record on this episode, it might be good to, to talk about the difference between Bible study and Bible reading. Yeah. What's the difference? What we're doing here is Bible reading, and this is meant to make sure that you are eyeballs on the Bible as Pastor Bobby Blakey likes to say. From Compass, Huntington Beach that you're reading God's word every single day. It doesn't mean that you're reading God's word in the, for example, we talked about in our partner's manual tanning. Then always, now that you're processing this at a great level of detail and parsing out everything and summarizing each paragraph and everything else like this if this is just time for you in the morning to. To approach the Bible to pick it up and Bible reading might look like you opening God's word and say, God, help me to understand one or two things from my reading today that I can take with me throughout the rest of the day. And you're gonna read, you're gonna read chapter 35. You're gonna read chapter 36, and then maybe you might pause for a minute and reflect on these two chapters and say, okay, is there a principle or two that I can take with me this day that's a meditative nugget that I can chew on throughout the day? You also might have at the same time, something, a book of the Bible that you're studying. That's one that you're gonna be doing more of the tan method that then always now you're gonna have a commentary perhaps with that one. You're taking it slower, smaller chunk chunks, smaller sections, really diving into it a little bit more. Perhaps if you're really detailed. This is not for everybody, but maybe it's for some people out there. Maybe you're outlining a passage, things like that. That's more the Bible study side. And our concern is that everybody at least is doing Bible reading every single day. That, that we feel like is. That's what we want you to do. That's why we're doing this podcast. We want you doing Bible reading every single day. If you have the occasion to do Bible study, that's a good thing for us as Christians to do as well. If you can study a book and take a book and or take a chapter of a book, take a paragraph at a time to start with and walk away feeling man, I know that. Better than I ever have before because I've studied it. That's a good thing for us as Christians as well. You're not gonna get that from reading four chapters of Isaiah in one sitting. You may know it a little bit better than you did before, but you're not gonna know the depth of it the same way we do when we get to do Bible study. So we want you Bible reading. Bible study's good to do as well, but at least Bible reading. Yeah. When you're reading through this, if you're. Reading and not spending time studying. You won't be spending an hour on your Bible reading it. It'll be a lot more reasonable. You will find yourself saying what did I just read? But maybe there's a way to do that in ways that are helpful. The ESV Bible is a great Bible to study from. You're getting a lot closer to the text, but maybe if you're just reading, we haven't talked about this in a minute, but the CSB is a great option. It's a great option. Christian Standard Bible. Yep. If you like something a little closer to modern vernacular, the NLT is fine. New Living Translation. Now notice that's a translation. That's not a, that's not a Bible version. Like we typically look at some of these other ones, but it's still fine. It's fine to utilize, to get the text under your. I don't know, to get texts under your feet to get a sense of what's going on. Yeah. Find something that you like reading and enjoy that. And there are times to study. We want you to study the word. We want you to get into it and dig into it and understand. Read commentaries and read study bibles, but recognize we're trying to help you with the daily Bible reading and beyond that, Hey, that's gravy. Do that all the more, but we're working on the reading and hopefully this podcast helps you with some of those insights and understanding of what you're reading. Yep. Chapter 35 I mentioned yesterday, chapter 34 sets up chapter 35, because not just it comes before it, but it really is chapter 34, the tribulation. Chapter 35 is talking about the return of the people to Jerusalem, the regathering, the millennial kingdom the, this is an encouraging chapter in the midst of otherwise, somewhat of a discouraging scene that's taking place there. But notice verse two, those that are coming back here they're gonna see the glory of the Lord, the majesty of our God. He talks in verse six, then shall the lame man leak like a, or look back up to verse five. The eyes of the blind shall be opened, the ears of the deaf unstopped. This is similar to when John the Baptist sends to Jesus and says, Hey, are you the Messiah? Are you the one that we should be looking for? And Jesus says go tell John some of these things that we're reading here are taking place right now. And so Jesus was telling John I'm at least. Partially fulfilling some of this, but the lame man shall leap like a deer. The tongue of the mute sing for joy. Waters shall break forth in the wilderness and streams in the desert. If you look in your Bibles, you might have a cross reference. I know what I did in my Bible to John chapter seven, where Jesus, during the feast of feast of. Is it Tabernacles in John seven? I think it is. Yeah. Where he stands up and talks about being, living water. That in the connection there. Even reaching back to a passage like this saying he's the one that's be gonna be the one that, that's gonna usher this in part. At his first coming, but in fulfillment outta his second, coming in specifically during the millennial kingdom. But these are verse 10, the ransom of the Lord who are gonna return and they're gonna come to Zion with singing everlasting joy on their heads. They shall obtain gladness and joy. Sorrow and sighing shall flee away. So this is looking forward to the millennial kingdom for the faithful remnant. This is against the backdrop of chapter 34 where God initiates judgment. Recognize that judgment has to come before restoration. This is the way it has to be in order for God to deal effectively and permanently with sin, with rebellion. And so even though we long for chapter 35, don't forget chapter 34, still in. In the shadows of this, and it's necessary. We want God to return. We want Jesus to come quickly. And in fact, we sing that right Maranatha, come quickly. Lord Jesus. We want this and we want Jesus to establish his kingdom. But this should inspire us on two levels. Number one, we want this personally, wanna experience this. But on the other hand, we also want Jesus to delay because there's people that we love and care about. So don't forget that this beautiful picture of what his restoration will look like is awesome. But don't forget chapter 34. Chapter 36. Very similar to what we've already read and covered in One Kings 18. This is just from the pers perspective of Isaiah the prophet. And so this is a Syria coming. This is what, what got, what the judeans have been dreading. And now here it is. This is 7 0 1 bc. This is Soaker coming against the city of Jerusalem now laying siege. This is the Rob Shaka again, who is gonna be there taunting and calling out to them. And he says specifically in verse 10, he says, is it without the Lord that I have come up against this land to destroy it? The Lord said to me, go up to this land and destroy it. Pastor Rob, do you think God did tell him to do that? No. Okay. Do you But this is no, but there's a kernel of truth here when he says, is it without the Lord that I've come up to this land? Oh, sure. But he's not speaking the way that you and I would think about it. True. He's a tool in the Lord's hands. So ultimately, yes. He's what he's saying is true. What he's doing is true, but he doesn't mean it the way that we mean it. And I think we need to even be careful when God says, Nebuchadnezzar my servant, or when he says that Assyria is gonna be the rod in his hand woo. This is different here because this is from the mouth of an unbeliever and it's even not true because he says, God said to come up to this land to destroy it. That's not true. 'cause he's not gonna destroy it. Yeah. By the way, spoiler alert on that one. But he calls out the king trying to cover them. Do not let Hezekiah, verse 15, do not let Hezekiah make you trust in the Lord by saying The Lord will utter, surely deliver us. The city will not be given into the hand of the King of Assyria. Do not listen to Hezekiah. Remember, they've been receiving Isaiah's prophecy to this point about the fact that God was gonna care for them. And he says in verse 20, it says, who among all the gods of the lands that. They've conquered already has delivered their lands out of my hand that the Lord should deliver Jerusalem outta my hand. But they were silent. Answer him. Not a word for the king's command was do not answer him. And so again we've talked about this in, i in one Kings 18, a lot of common ground here in Isaiah chapter 36. Yeah. I really like, I don't know, I say that's not the right word. I find it really interesting that snacking on ribs says something like, Hey man in verse 16. Make your peace with me and come out to me, then each of you will eat of his own vine and each one of his own fig tree, and each one of you will drink the water of his own cistern. If this sounds vaguely familiar to you, it's because you might remember it from One Kings four. This is the kind of blessing that the. That King Solomon enjoyed. Am I right on Solomon? Maybe it's not Solomon one Kings four that would put us at there earlier. Yeah, it is Solomon, actually, king Solomon enjoyed when he was ruling and reigning over the United Kingdom. He had such blessing brought in that it says here, Judah and Israel lived in safety from Dan, even to Beersheba, every man under his vine and under his fig tree, all the days of Solomon. This. Imagery was adopted after that point forward to speak of the kind of blessings that the Messiah would bring about. And so what you see here snacking on ribs is saying, look, don't you want to enjoy the blessings of the Messiah? Come to me and I'll give you those things. The vine and fig tree imagery is meant to showcase the promised land, the blessings of the covenant, and he's saying, I can give you those blessings. And this is exactly. The strategy of the enemy. He brings counterfeit blessings that are meant to say, look, isn't this better than what God's doing? It's a shortcut. It's just as good. Maybe even better. Don't you want it now? And this is exactly what they don't fall prey to. And we can, if we're not careful, fall prey to some of the same promises. The devil offers counterfeit blessings. Be aware of that. That's the, from the very beginning. The serpent in the garden to eve. God doesn't want you to be happy. He's just a cosmic killjoy. He just knows that if you eat this, you'll be like him. And he's trying to be just him himself, and he doesn't want you to have these rewards. So why don't you eat the fruit? Yeah. And if Trace, trace the vine and fig tree imagery and just open up your Bible, do a quick search and you'll see it. It's sprinkled all throughout the Old Testament. Yeah. Pointing to the kingdom. And that's why it's so interesting because snacking on ribs is like, Hey, don't you want this? And they say, no. I love that. What's interesting though is he says, and this jumped out to me in verse 17, he says, until I come take you away from your land to a land like your own land, a land of green and wine, like, why not just leave us here? Yeah. Let's just stay here. Yeah. If this is gonna be so great to surrender to you, then why do you need to leave us and take us away? Yeah. Yeah Isaiah chapter 35 and 36, again, hopefully just the encouragement on difference between reading and study. Study is so good and there's great resources and great tools out there for you. But man, we want you reading every single day because it's so good for us to have our eyes on God's word and to be taking it in and to be praying beforehand, during, afterwards. God help me to learn, teach me things, let me avail myself to the resources that I have to be able to do this. So we we ask. And and trust that you guys are doing that because we, it's gonna make us stronger as a church. The more our church knows the word of God, the stronger we will be as a church, as whole. That's right. So how does Pastor Bobby say eyeballs on the eyeballs? Eyeballs on the Bible? Yeah. Something like that. That's, that. It's almost there. It's like a half, it almost rhyme. Yeah. It's, yeah. No, I eyeballs on the Bibles, he says eyeballs, the Bible. Let's just change the way that we pronounce Bibles on the Bible, eyeballs on the Bible. Or eyeballs? Eyeballs on the Bibles. Apple eyeballs on the Bibles. I like that one. I like that one. That one feels better. Yeah. Alright. Hey, let's pray. God, we we wanna be a people that do know your word. We want to be in your word, not just occasionally, but daily. We want to have a hunger for it, a desperation for it that says, I have to. I have to spend time there. I have to read, I have to be in, in your word and I pray God, that you would make it not just an exercise and check in a box or something that's legalistic or thinking that we're earning credit with you so that we can cash in later for some reward God. But that we would really, truly see this as a lifeline. That we would learn, that we would learn more about who you are and about who we are and what you've done about that. So God reward our time through, through just making us more like Christ as we spend time in your word on a daily basis. Thanks for this time that we spent in Isaiah 35 and 36. Just pray that some of these truths would stick with us even as we hope for that future kingdom as it's described in 35 as we'll. Be there ruling and reigning with Christ. Whatever that will look like, God, we confess in ignorance on that, but it's gonna be amazing. We do know that, and we can't wait for that day. We pray this all in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Keep in your Bibles. Tune in again tomorrow for another edition to the Daily Bible Podcast, Bibles and the Bibles. Bye.
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