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Gary ElliottSpark of Rebellion.
MikeHello there and welcome to Spark of Rebellion, the Star wars show that brings you news, views and a little bit of humor from a galaxy far, far away.
MikeToday we're going to talk about the Ray situation.
MikeAllegedly, she's vital to the future of Star Wars.
MikeWe're going to talk about yet another movie pulled from the release schedule.
MikeWe're going to talk a little bit about TV Skeleton crew and or and it wouldn't be completely November without some Black Friday deals, some goodness and some new releases.
MikeWe might even wrap up with something from the rumor mill.
MikeWho knows where we'll end up?
MikeI'm of course, Mike, one of your hosts here at Spark Rebellion.
MikeI'll be bringing on my esteemed co host in just a second.
MikeBut before I do that, remember, you can check us out on all of the podcasting platforms or you can tune in@spark rebellion.com where you can also become part of our skeleton crew, spark rebellion.com support.
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MikeNow we are going to get into some news this week.
MikeIt's been a little bit sparse actually over the last few months and actually it's just felt, it's just felt like we've been repeating ourselves a little bit.
MikeNew movies, announced cancellations, trolls, people complaining they don't like anything.
MikeIt's been a little bit repetitive.
MikeSo because of that, we're actually going to be taking December off after this week.
MikeWe will be taking a little bit of a hiatus and we're going to be coming back on January 18th with a review of the hall of Skeleton Crew that comes out early December and it runs right through to the 14th of January.
MikeSo once that's finished, we can get into something me to give it one of our famous reviews and go deep on that one.
MikeSo we'll be back after this episode on January 18th.
MikeNow, without further ado, let's bring on the scoundrel with a beard that would make Mace Windu proud if he was to return from death.
MikeBecause as we all know, when you come back from death, and you might be questionably morally set up, you do have a little beard just to keep the audience on their toes.
MikeSo welcome the bearded one, Gary Elliott.
MikeHello, mate.
Gary ElliottGood morning, mate.
Gary ElliottSo our listener, how we doing?
Gary ElliottYes, we've both got beards.
Gary ElliottI can see you're, you're growing yours out a little bit for the benefit of the listener marks.
MikeWell, it's the same with the hair though, mate.
MikeSort of growing the hair a little bit.
MikeBecause I'm away for two weeks, Anna, after this week, I'm off.
MikeI'm off on holiday, so I'm sort of.
MikeI'll just go through the shave on like Friday or Saturday.
MikeYou know the drill.
Gary ElliottYeah, yeah, I do that as well.
Gary ElliottYeah.
Gary ElliottChristmas, dues, holidays, people coming over.
MikeYou shave the night, not the people coming over.
MikeNot interested in that.
Gary ElliottDepends who it is.
MikeWell, it does depend who is actually.
Gary ElliottYeah.
MikeNot.
MikeNot anything dodgy.
Gary ElliottNo, not in that way.
MikeWell, maybe not.
MikeWhatever.
Gary ElliottYeah.
MikeSee how the night goes.
Gary ElliottWhatever.
MikeWhatever what you've been Star wars in.
Gary ElliottWhat have I been Star wars in now, really?
Gary ElliottOh, I've sunk another.
Gary ElliottAnother few hours into Star Wars Outlaws.
Gary ElliottI feel like it's one of those games where a bit like you with the Living Force book.
Gary ElliottI feel like I'm not making too much head ground headway with it, but I'm chipping away.
Gary ElliottYou know that feeling where you not progressing massively.
Gary ElliottBut yeah, you're chipping away.
Gary ElliottSo I'm on Tatooine actually at the moment, which is kind of cool.
Gary ElliottThere's like a few Easter eggs dotted around on there.
Gary ElliottYou can go to.
Gary ElliottGo to Lal's homestead and see.
Gary ElliottYou can't see any burning skeletons.
Gary ElliottNothing like that.
Gary ElliottIt's no, you know, nothing like that.
Gary ElliottThey've put none of that.
Gary ElliottYeah, but you can go there and have a look and you got Jabba's palace and all that stuff and you can chip around and.
Gary ElliottAnd do that stuff.
Gary ElliottIt's kind of cool.
Gary ElliottThere's a bit of nostalgia on that one, but, yeah, other than that, dude, nothing.
Gary ElliottWhat about you?
MikeNot a ton.
MikeJust getting through this.
MikeGalactic Empire, rise and fall.
MikeNearly finished that one actually.
MikeSo I'll have that done before the old holiday.
MikeIt's really good.
MikeSo it seems to dip a little bit in the middle, but it is very, very good.
MikeSo I've been enjoying that.
MikeSo, yes, I'll stick that on my Goodreads or whatever we use in these days.
MikeThe kids.
MikeNow, let's get to a few stories then.
MikeSo we've got.
MikeWe've got a few different, I suppose a few different types of story today.
MikeWe've got the usual, oh, look, a movie's been pulled.
MikeBut we also do have a few rumors and it's Black Friday coming up actually next week.
MikeSo we're gonna get.
MikeSome things tend to get released, which is quite good.
MikeSo we'll talk about all of that stuff.
MikeBut we are going to start with.
MikeAn anonymous source has told the Hollywood Reporter that Rey Skywalker is played by Daisy Ridley will reportedly appear in several upcoming movies, not just.
MikeNot just the new Jedi Order, one that we know is in development.
MikeWe don't know how far that's got, but we know it's in development.
MikeBut allegedly, this source says that she's the most valuable cinematic asset, Anakin Luke, but also that she's gonna be moving forward in several, several films.
MikeSo I, I do sort of get this, dude.
MikeI sort of get this.
MikeIf this is true.
MikeI mean, it's a anonymous source.
MikeWho knows if it is true.
MikeI do understand it, you know, young woman, Skywalker name, you know, like it or not, but I think I'm not.
MikeI don't want to say this to sound disparaging to the character or today's a Ridley, because I like both.
MikeI don't think Ray was particularly fleshed out very well in the original trilogy, but then was Luke.
MikeI don't know.
MikeWho knows?
MikeBut it doesn't feel particularly strong.
MikeI feel like every other trilogy has had several strong characters.
MikeSo Luke, Leia and Han were obviously the perfect trifecta and strength in numbers there.
MikeThey appealed to different people, different reasons, and the same, I think in the prequel trilogy, you know, Anakin, Obi Wan, and in the Phantom Menace, you had Liam Neeson, you know, really commanding presence.
MikeSo I don't.
MikeI don't know, man.
MikeI, I see this.
MikeI see why this could be a thing.
MikeBut I, I just.
MikeI don't know how strong the character is because it just feels a bit underdeveloped.
MikeBut then you can't develop it without making more movies.
MikeSo I sort of, you know, you can't chicken and egg that.
MikeSo I don't know.
MikeI'm.
MikeI suppose I'm a bit ambivalent on it, as always now with Star Wars, I'm a bit ambivalent on it.
MikeWhat do you make of it?
Gary ElliottYeah, again, I see this.
Gary ElliottI see why they're trying to push this a little bit.
Gary ElliottI think most of me thinks this is a good move.
Gary ElliottI'll tell you why.
Gary ElliottIt's because I saw something the other day.
Gary ElliottIt was at one of the various Star wars blogs or whatever.
Gary ElliottI think it was Screen Rant actually.
Gary ElliottAnd they were saying that the headline was Star wars is the Star Wars's main problem is that it's a nostalgia machine.
Gary ElliottAnd it's difficult to keep recreating nostalgia.
Gary ElliottAnd I, I Read that.
Gary ElliottAnd I thought, oh, it's another clickbaity thing.
Gary ElliottAnd then the more I thought about it, I was like, they might have a point there.
Gary ElliottYou know, when you keep having to regurgitate pockets of time around the original trilogy and having to come up with new stuff, but also very familiar at the same time, it does become a bit of a challenge, and especially for Star wars fans of our age, not that old, but you know, the older crew who relies to a degree on some of that nostalgic, sort of nice warm fuzzy feeling.
Gary ElliottWhen you watch Star wars, you can only run on that for so long.
Gary ElliottSo I think this is a good move to say, like, okay, we've already got a new ish established character.
Gary ElliottLet's just bloody run with that.
Gary ElliottThere's probably a cynical part of me that thinks we've got nothing else.
Gary ElliottWe haven't got anything else.
Gary ElliottSo Ray's as good as we're going to get.
Gary ElliottSo I think this is a good move overall.
Gary ElliottI think if you're going to choose a character and push through into new Star wars territory and do new stuff, it might as well be Ray, dude.
Gary ElliottSo, yeah, I can see why they're doing it, but it's like you said, this chicken and egg thing, you have to, you have to put content out in order to flesh out the character a bit more.
Gary ElliottBut you got to take that, that, those steps to do it, you know, So I get it.
MikeYeah, it's a tough thing in it.
MikeI think it's.
MikeYou're right, nostalgia is such a big part of it, but at the same time it's, it's that we've talked about it 10 times over the last two months.
MikeLike just the fact that if you move away from nostalgia, you just get the assholes online.
MikeAnd we've said it before, like Star wars is just in a very unique position in that it's got that problem, you know, it's, it's not, it's not like Marvel or DC where it's like, well, that's not comic accurate.
MikeYeah, it's an interpretation of.
MikeAnd a lot of the people will be fine with that.
MikeWhereas with Star wars, it's, oh, it's not Luke, it's not Anakin, you know, and it's, we talked about it again in the, the sequel trilogy to some people.
MikeForce awakens is 10 year old next year.
MikeYou know, if you, if that's, that's like us in 2009 with the Phantom Menace.
MikeAnd it's, it's a weird scenario in that you, you know that those, those movies will be the introduction to Star wars for so many people.
MikeAnd these characters will be the Star wars characters, you know, not the old guy, you know, not that old guy that was, that was stood there.
MikeIt'll be someone else.
MikeAnd it's, it's just, it's sort of weird that they've always got to tread this so carefully because they, you know, it's, it's almost like it'll be easier to do this in 50 years time or 60 years time when we're all dead because you know what I mean?
MikeBecause we're not, you know, the mid-40s guys now.
MikeWe're not going to go on, you know, in 50, 60 years.
MikeI'm going to go on social media and below.
MikeThis is crap.
MikeYou know, it'll just be fresh, hopefully.
Gary ElliottYeah, I think, I don't think we've got it as one of our stories this week, but Jude Law was interviewed recently and he said that he's really, really nervous about skeleton crew going out because he's seen, he's seen what's happened in the past with Star wars actors being absolutely destroyed because of something they've done in Star wars because of this very reason.
Gary ElliottIt's like you've got the old crew who were just, you know, we need more, we need more Star wars to make me feel like I did when I watched Star Wars.
Gary ElliottBut then you also got a.
Gary ElliottCater to.
Gary ElliottIt's such a unique.
Gary ElliottYou're right, dude.
Gary ElliottIt's.
Gary ElliottThey're in such a unique position with it where it's.
Gary ElliottI, we've said it many times.
Gary ElliottI certainly wouldn't want this job.
Gary ElliottYears ago I really wanted to.
Gary ElliottIt's like, oh, what's your dream job?
Gary ElliottYou know, other than working, you know, doing what I'm doing now, of course.
Gary ElliottBut what's your dream job?
Gary ElliottI'd love to work at like Pixar or, you know, Lucasfilm making Star wars stuff.
Gary ElliottBut now, gee, I don't know, man.
Gary ElliottI honestly don't know.
MikeYeah, and that's such a shame that someone like Du Law feels like that.
MikeIt's not like he's not accomplished.
MikeIt's not like he's done good work.
MikeIt's not like he's pretty well revered and, you know, I just think it's a symptom of the, the world that we're in at the minute with social media and so on.
MikeBut we'll see how that goes.
MikeWe'll see what happens with that one.
MikeBut it's not helping the next new news article is that reported by variety last week.
MikeDecember 18, 2026, we were going to get a Star wars movie.
MikeNow we don't know which one it was going to be, but we were going to get one.
MikeNow we're not.
MikeNow we're getting Ice Age 6, which I'm up for.
Gary ElliottArguably a better film than whatever we're going to get.
MikeI like it.
MikeYeah, probably better.
MikeI do like, I do like Ice Edge, but I don't know which movie this was going to be.
MikeSo it means that we've only got only the Mandalorian and Grogu.
MikeDirected by the Fav.
MikeMay 22, 2026.
MikeNow it's, it's weird this because if you like, if you think back pre Marvel, when did we get more than one Star wars movie in a year?
MikeLike you got one every, what, two or three years?
MikeLike before 2008, what we had the prequels, but now it's like, oh, we're only going to get one Star wars movie in 2026.
MikeAnd you're like, oh, that's fine, that's cool, that's all right.
MikeBut at the same time, it's like we've said before.
MikeAnd actually I want to say this, but then I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll underpin it with something slightly different.
MikeIt's like we've said before, they keep dropping these movies and pulling these movies out.
MikeHowever, how often does this happen in the cinema ecosystem, the movie making Hollywood ecosystem, where you pencil a dating and it just doesn't happen.
MikeYou swap it out, but because it's Star wars, it's under the microscope, it's a big problem.
MikeIt's an issue.
MikeSo again, is it, you know, we get, we're getting a Star wars movie in one year, do we need two?
MikeProbably not.
MikeProbably not.
MikeIt's cool.
MikeIt's totally cool.
MikeSo I'm, I've got, I can see both sides of this, you know, it being a problem, but at the same time not.
MikeAnd I think it, for me it just comes back down to that.
MikeStop freaking announcing.
Gary ElliottYes, agreed.
Gary ElliottWe're in this, we're in this position, aren't we, where we've been spoiled, really, with Star wars content.
Gary ElliottA lot of people will complain, right?
Gary ElliottThey'll say since the Disney buyout, they've ruined Star wars and all the rest of it.
Gary ElliottBut, and there's also the question of Star wars fatigue as well.
Gary ElliottI think that's something that's been, that's been knocked about for a While.
Gary ElliottBut we have had a lot of content over the last few years, dude.
Gary ElliottAs well as.
Gary ElliottNot so much in the way of films, but certainly over at Disney plus we've had loads of Star wars stuff.
Gary ElliottAnd yeah, now this has happened.
Gary ElliottIt's like other franchises like Transformers, I guess, and some of the Marvel stuff.
Gary ElliottYou know those big franchises where you get like one film, like you said, every few years.
Gary ElliottIt's like fans are like, oh, this is amazing.
Gary ElliottWe're gonna get another film in like 2027.
Gary ElliottOh, brilliant.
Gary ElliottI can't wait for that.
Gary ElliottBut where it's Star Wars.
Gary ElliottYeah, it's like, oh, you're only getting one film this year.
Gary ElliottOh, this is outra.
Gary ElliottThis is absolutely outrageous.
Gary ElliottSo we guessed, didn't we, that this was going to be that new Jedi Order film?
Gary ElliottI think when we, when we spoke about, oh, Star wars has got two or three films slated for 2025, we were like, well, Mandu and Grogu's already been announced for May, so the other one's probably.
Gary ElliottWhat do we say at the time?
Gary ElliottI'm sure it was the new Jedi Order film with Rey, because we were talking about, you know, because at that point production was in full swing pre production anyway, and we thought, well, that's not bags of time to do the visual effects, everything, but they could still do it.
Gary ElliottSo I'm wondering if it was that one.
Gary ElliottBut I don't know, man.
Gary ElliottI mean, any other franchise, it wouldn't necessarily be a problem.
Gary ElliottThe only thing I can think of that's kind of similar is Marvel keep pulling the Blade film.
Gary ElliottI think fans are getting a bit miffed with that now because they keep moving it around.
Gary ElliottBut if it's any other franchise, it wouldn't be a problem.
Gary ElliottBut because Disney have made a rod for their own back where they keep doing this thing where it's like, here's an announcement.
Gary ElliottNope, it's not happening now.
Gary ElliottHere's a film.
Gary ElliottNo, we're not doing it now.
Gary ElliottHere's a release date.
Gary ElliottNo, we're not doing it now.
Gary ElliottIt's just.
Gary ElliottIt's really starting to gray on people.
Gary ElliottSo I think that's kind of justified, dude, for people to have a little bit of the hump.
Gary ElliottNot a bit.
Gary ElliottNot because we're only getting one Star wars film, but more so it's just like you keep telling us we're getting stuff and then.
Gary ElliottAnd then you pull it.
Gary ElliottI think that's the problem.
MikeYeah, I think.
MikeI agree.
MikeI think that's the bigger issue.
MikeThis is just a symptom of it.
MikeWe'll just have to see on it again.
MikeWe've talked about this before.
MikeI'm sort of just not really that interested.
MikeLike I only really care about something now when there's actual footage.
MikeThat's, that's where I just am with it at the minute because I don't, I just don't think we can guarantee anything else.
MikeSo we'll see on that one.
MikeWe'll.
MikeWe'll see, man.
MikeWe do know that skeleton crew is coming along and one of the, one of the co creators, Chris Ford has spoken to screen ran about really where this fits in the timeline.
MikeWe know it takes place post Return the Jedi in that Mando verse space.
MikeSo whether that is the five year period where the mando started or much later, you know, eight, nine, ten years after, who knows.
MikeBut one of the interesting things here that Chris has said, Chris, like I know him, has said, is why they chose that period.
MikeAnd it's not so that it can tie to everyone else.
MikeAnd we know there'll probably be cameos and some scoundrels making appearances all well and good, but he said that the reason for setting it like this and putting it here is that actually there needs to be a little bit of a space for people to go and get lost and not get bailed out by other people.
MikeSo if you think about it in the High Republic, if you set the.
MikeAnd this is what he goes on to say.
MikeIf you set it in the High Republic like some missing kids in a spaceship gonna get whipped out by a, you know, a do good a Jedi really quickly because there's tens of thousands of them.
MikeIf you set it during the reign of the Empire, they're going to get picked up by the Empire because the space lanes and so eventually they'll come across some stormtroopers and they'll just pick them up.
MikeAnd he just said that.
MikeIt just seemed a very logical place to put this because although the New Republic's there, they've not really got this together all that much.
MikeThat as we know they're certainly not as they don't have a military.
MikeThey're not as prominent throughout the Gar galaxy as we've seen in the Mandalorian on Tatooine and wherever else.
MikeEverything's still a little bit Wild Westy.
MikeWe've seen it on Coruscant with Senator Z and, and Harrison Duller and Ahsoka.
MikeYou know, not everything's going well there.
MikeResources are low.
MikeSo it just said there's room for pirates and Scoundrels.
MikeBut we needed to give room for pirates and scoundrels.
MikeYou know, we needed the ability for someone to go and get lost for a little bit and without the worry of.
MikeOf, I suppose, the backlash, because you would.
MikeYou get the b.
MikeThat wouldn't have happened, you know, so it just feels.
MikeIt just reckons it feels like a good time space to.
MikeTo set this and.
MikeAnd.
MikeAnd to.
MikeTo give it room to breathe, which I quite like.
MikeI think it's time for something fresh, you know, I think it'll be quite nice.
MikeWe know we'll get some cameos and whatever else, but I.
MikeI just seems like it's got a reasonably clean slate and the time period seems to fit that.
Gary ElliottYes, agreed.
Gary ElliottNo, I agree with this, mate.
Gary ElliottI think this is a good.
Gary ElliottA good shout because it's the Marvel TV issue.
Gary ElliottOtherwise you think about a lot of the Marvel TV stuff that's on Disney plus where you've got like one or two people knocking around saving the whole of New York or the planet, whatever.
Gary ElliottThere's no way that a lot of those stories would happen and all of the Avengers are just on vacation somewhere.
Gary ElliottYeah, you know, it's like, come on.
Gary ElliottAt some point, one of the Avengers would have shown up and just handled this, and away we go.
MikeOf course, the biggest example is like, Eternals, and I wouldn't have.
MikeYeah, no chance.
Gary ElliottYeah.
Gary ElliottYeah.
Gary ElliottSo I know that doesn't make for very good storytelling, but, you know, if you've got your, you know, what's the word?
Gary ElliottPedantic, you know, couple of pints down, hat on.
MikeOh, yeah.
Gary ElliottWell, you know.
Gary ElliottWell, I don't agree with the Avengers thing because, you know, Thor would have turned up and got him over after this episode three.
Gary ElliottSo I totally get it.
Gary ElliottYou know, you can't have Jedi knocking around to save the day.
Gary ElliottYou can't have the Empire knocking around to, you know, to put a spanner in the works.
Gary ElliottYou've got to have a little bit of breathing room just to tell a good story.
Gary ElliottSo, yeah, I'm up for this, mate.
Gary ElliottI think this is a good shout.
MikeYeah, I agree.
MikeI think it'll be quite nice just to see something a little bit fresh.
MikeSomething that is completely saddled to the saga is, of course, Andor.
MikeSo season two, we got the logo, an updated logo, which is actually really quite nice.
MikeYou'll probably appreciate this as a design bod.
MikeQuite a nice little logo out there.
MikeAnd we did importantly get a Release date of April 22, 2025.
MikeAnd off the back of that Diego Luna has come out and just said, look, this is going to be really good.
MikeWe know you've waited a couple of years for it, which, you know, TV series come out every year usually.
MikeBut we're in a.
MikeWe live in a world of streaming now.
MikeIt just doesn't need to be that, especially the budgets of these things.
MikeAnd he says it's worth the wait.
MikeHe says it will change the complexion of Rogue One.
MikeYou know, if we look at, I think season one was set.
MikeWas season one set like 10 years before, like around the solo time frame at the real peak of the Empire?
MikeAnd then Andor season two is set five years before the beginning of Rogue One, with each three story arc having a time jump between them.
MikeAnd by the end of it, we're going to see Saga, we're going to see Mon Mothma.
MikeBy the end of it it will roll straight into Rogue One, like literally straight where we see him gonna get the, the Imperial defect to the Imperial Spy and he's on that planet where he has to.
MikeHe has to kill the guy, sadly.
MikeSo this looks quite interesting, dude.
MikeI'm that andor is that I'm genuinely quite excited about because I think Gilroy wrote a really good piece in Andor season one.
MikeIt was, you know, the pacing, some people had issues with that, but it was a well written thing.
MikeYou know, no one, no one's pissed off at Breaking Bad either or the Sopranos or, or whatever or Succession for being slow.
MikeSo yeah, I, I'm excited for this, dude.
MikeI'm excited for it and I think, I think it'd be interesting to go back, watch season one again, you know, in my back end of March, go and watch season one again, roll into season two and then smash out Rogue One.
MikeI think that'll be a nice little thing to do.
MikeSo yeah.
MikeYou're excited for this?
Gary ElliottI am actually, mate.
Gary ElliottEoth.
Gary ElliottAnd woe is us.
Gary ElliottYeah.
Gary ElliottStar wars fans, we have to watch another new Star wars thing that they're putting out.
Gary ElliottOh no.
Gary ElliottSo I think this is kind of cool that we've got some details as far out.
Gary ElliottNormally we get stuff.
Gary ElliottWhen is this out?
Gary ElliottWhat month is it next year?
Gary ElliottApril.
MikeApril 22nd.
Gary ElliottYeah.
Gary ElliottSo normally sort of February time we'd get some more details about it and the teaser and stuff.
Gary ElliottIt's cool that we've got some, some deets on it already and I think, yeah, it's one of those divisive things, isn't it, amongst fandom because you've got a section of fandom that are very much like, where are.
Gary ElliottThere's no lightsabers and there's no pew, pew, pew.
Gary ElliottAnd.
Gary ElliottAnd all that stuff.
Gary ElliottAnd fine, go and watch your.
Gary ElliottGo and get your DVDs and your Blu Rays out, mate.
Gary ElliottYeah.
Gary ElliottBecause you're not giving Disney money anymore.
Gary ElliottI'm not going to fund that.
Gary ElliottSo go and get your Blue Razor and watch.
Gary ElliottYeah, of course you are.
Gary ElliottOh, how are you watching all the Marvel stuff, then?
Gary ElliottOh, yeah.
MikeWhat?
Gary ElliottWell, it's a funny thing.
Gary ElliottFunny thing that I didn't actually cancel it.
Gary ElliottI'm meaning to, you know, it's on the.
Gary ElliottIt's on the agenda.
MikeThere was a problem with my credit card.
MikeIt just carried on paying.
MikeYeah, Neck be a jerk.
Gary ElliottThose bloody credit cards, eh?
Gary ElliottYou just can't turn them off.
Gary ElliottHey.
Gary ElliottBut yes, I.
Gary ElliottI'm looking forward.
MikeIt'll probably be their mum's credit card dealer.
MikeWell, my mom, she's actually the account holder and she doesn't let me have passwords because I sometimes don't wear trousers.
Gary ElliottYes.
Gary ElliottOh, okay.
Gary ElliottSo just to confirm, you'd like to cancel your Disney Plus?
Gary ElliottYes.
Gary ElliottAre you the account holder, sir?
Gary ElliottYeah, funny story.
MikeAnd then what you hear on background is this.
MikeMum, Mum, no, come here now.
MikeNo, Mom.
MikeHi, yeah, just.
MikeSorry, one second.
Gary ElliottYeah, yeah, yeah, the telephone voice.
Gary ElliottYeah, just bear with me just one moment, please.
MikeOne second.
MikeYeah.
Gary ElliottThey'Re all watching it, mate.
Gary ElliottThey're all fucking.
Gary ElliottWe would.
Gary ElliottThis is something that happens in the Doctor who community as well a lot, where there's a big bunch of fandom that just cannot stand, like, recent Doctor who.
Gary ElliottYeah, but, yeah.
Gary ElliottOh, but you're watching it every week, though.
Gary ElliottWell, yeah.
Gary ElliottYou know, you've got to watch it.
Gary ElliottHave you?
Gary ElliottBecause you don't.
Gary ElliottYou just told everyone that you hate it and it's the worst thing you've ever seen.
Gary ElliottBut you've got to watch it every week, though, right?
MikeHow do I know what to slag off if I don't watch it?
Gary ElliottExactly, yeah.
Gary ElliottSo there will be a portion of fandom that are like this with Andor because they were like.
Gary ElliottIt was season one, however, screw that.
Gary ElliottI think this was a really good series, just paced really well, actually.
Gary ElliottYou and I said that when we reviewed it, a lot of people complaining about the slow pace and everything, but we were like, nah, man, cool.
Gary ElliottLet the characters do their thing.
Gary ElliottBuild it up.
MikeYeah.
MikeAnd I think if you frame that in your mind as that, you know, I think it's easy sometimes to see Star wars and want a big twist at the End or want a big cameo or a big ooh that connects to that.
MikeWhich a lot of Andor does and did.
MikeBut it's subtleties and it was storytelling.
MikeAnd it's like when you.
MikeWe just finished Succession and you know that instantly grabs you and you feel completely satisfied by each episode.
MikeAnd there's only a few shows that have done that for me, like Succession's one of them Penguins, one of them recently, then Back in the Day, Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul.
MikeI can't think of many more.
Mike5, 6 series that every episode you're completely satisfied by.
MikeAnd I think Andor's one of those.
Gary ElliottTypes where Sex and the City, maybe Satka.
MikeYeah, yeah, all of that.
MikeAnd the movies.
MikeAnd it's.
MikeIt's.
MikeI think you just got to step out of it being.
MikeThere's not going to be a big twist.
MikeThere might be a cameo, but it's not going to be like a ho, ho, here's the savior, the Jedi.
MikeAnd that was great in Mandalorian when Luke turned up, like, that was just a different type of great.
MikeBut that's the thing, I think that a lot of Star wars fans don't understand is there can be different types of good and different types of great and different types of quality.
MikeAnd it's.
MikeThey're all good and great.
MikeThey're just different versions of it and different types of it.
MikeI just think that, you know, Andor's got a really unique place in that.
MikeSo I'm looking forward to that.
MikeDude, I'm really keen for that.
MikeWe'll see if Diego Luna is.
MikeSee if he's telling pokies or not, but I don't think he is.
MikeI think it'll be good.
MikeAnd I'm really keen to see Skarsgard's character, see what happens to him.
MikeLike, he was one of the most intriguing parts of this entire season.
MikeSo Lutheran Rail, I'm really keen to see what happens with him.
Gary ElliottSame.
Gary ElliottYeah, he was really good, actually.
Gary ElliottHe provided a little bit of.
Gary ElliottWhat's the word?
MikeGravitas.
Gary ElliottGravitas and intrigue into how his character.
Gary ElliottBecause we.
Gary ElliottThey kept us guessing for a while, didn't they, as to what he's getting, what his deal was.
Gary ElliottSo, yeah.
Gary ElliottYeah, I'm up for that, man.
MikeYeah, really keen for that.
MikeAll right, let's get to some news about.
MikeAbout some toys.
MikeAnd then we're going to finish up on some rumors, the rumor mill.
MikeWe could do this forever because there's always.
MikeThere are always releases around Black Friday and Christmas time.
MikeBut I picked out three for this, I guess I know you'll have seen some of these as well that we've got first up.
MikeSo the gifting Gift the Galaxy, which is a Hasbro initiative where they're just over the course of a couple of weeks, every day they release new products.
MikeIt's to try and add a little bit of fun and a little bit of anticipation to it.
MikeBut it's basically, here's all our product drop for Christmas.
MikeRight, that's cool.
MikeNothing wrong with that.
MikeBut one thing that caught my eye was they've released the Black series Force Effects lightsaber, which is a Balen skull lightsaber which has got the ready orange blade.
MikeAnd apparently according to the release, it's full size.
MikeIt's a full 1:1 scale size, which is actually quite rare in these.
MikeFull 1:1 scale, fully functioning inbuilt speakers, all sorts of gear on it.
Mike249 quid.
MikeYou can pre order it from next week.
MikeAs someone that's got a couple of lightsabers, I've got the Anakin one and I've got one from Batuu that I made.
MikeThis looks really good, man.
MikeLike for that kind of money you are going to get a real quality bit of kit here.
MikeAnd I've seen the OB ones, you know, I've seen these, this, this series in the Obi Wan version and that is really good.
MikeSo this is anything like this, I think it would be better.
MikeIt's a real good bit of kit, dude.
MikeSo, yeah, I'm not sure we'll pick this up because it's two is 250quid.
MikeBut it looks badass, man.
Gary ElliottIt does, yeah.
Gary ElliottAnd what is it you said about it?
Gary ElliottWhat's cool?
Gary ElliottAll the scale, like one to one.
Gary ElliottIt's pretty big.
Gary ElliottThat's kind of cool.
Gary ElliottAnd apparently it's got some advanced LED light systems built in as well as well as the onboard speaker that you normally get and stuff.
Gary ElliottBut I think it's really cool just for those two reasons.
Gary ElliottI think it's the unique sort of orangey red lava sort of colored blade which is very cool, which they've captured perfectly.
Gary ElliottSo when you, if you were to go back and watch those eps when he has a bit of a show showdown with Ahsoka, this exactly the same, which is really cool.
Gary ElliottSo you want that sort of screen accuracy and yeah, it's just really cool.
Gary ElliottYeah, I'm not sure I'm gonna pick it up though.
Gary ElliottI don't want to drop 270quid.
Gary ElliottJust yet.
Gary ElliottOn a life.
MikeWell, you're in like sideshow collectibles hot toy territory there, aren't you?
MikeFor a figure, if you're gonna drop, if you've got 250 to stick on a Star wars bit of kit, you're probably picking up an Anakin or an Obi Wan or a Luke, you know, some of the top tier figurines, you know, the models.
MikeThat would be my view anyway.
MikeAnd I'm right, so I'll share that view, mate.
Gary ElliottYou are.
MikeNo, Yeah, I was taking the approach of all Star wars trolls.
Gary ElliottYeah.
MikeBy the way, I'm right.
MikeFuck you all.
MikeI own Twitter.
MikeAll right, Elon, Calm down.
MikeShagger.
MikeEasy, easy, boss.
Gary ElliottCalm down.
Gary ElliottHe's shouting at me again.
Gary ElliottLeave me alone.
MikeYou're not my real dad.
Gary ElliottHe's not your dad.
Gary ElliottShouldn't have said that.
MikeWho pays the bills?
MikeYeah, I'm turning your Xbox game pass off, you little nerd.
MikeGet a job, Mom.
MikeNew character in the works right here.
MikeTune back in January, January 18, for more character development like this.
MikeAll right?
MikeLego Lego Lego LEGO Ultimate Collector series.
MikeWe've got a few of these knocking around, haven't we?
MikeThey put out a Luke Skywalker's giant X34 land speeder a couple of years ago.
MikeA 1,000, almost 1,900 piece kit, which is.
MikeIt's about standard for a UCS.
MikeUnless you've got like Mosaic, which I think is like 282 9.
MikeAbout 2000 pieces is around the standard.
MikeIt wouldn't be Black Friday without a deal.
MikeSo we've got a report on this one because it really is a.
MikeIt really is a good deal, this one.
MikeSo this has come down from 240 bucks.
MikeIt's come down by 65 to 175 now for a UCS.
MikeThis is a genuine, actual, legitimate bargain.
MikeBecause UCS are expensive.
MikeI've got the R2, I've got the Batman, Batwing and a couple of others, Air Wing.
MikeAnd I like, they're always upwards of 222.30.
MikeSo this is a genuine deal, dude.
MikeA genuine deal.
MikeI actually, I'm not saying you will pick it up, but I imagine this is something that you would pick up.
Gary ElliottYep.
Gary ElliottWhen I saw this, I was like, oh, for fuck's sake.
MikeYeah.
Gary ElliottYou know, when you've budgeted for something, you think, right, I've got my money lined up for some other bits.
Gary ElliottNot that I'm not, you know, a bit of a shop.
MikeYou got a Beamer?
Gary ElliottI've never.
Gary ElliottI've Got an old Beamer because I like the old.
MikeThe old three rear wheel drive around the old Rugby roundabouts.
MikeIndicators are not working, lads.
Gary ElliottI'm sending this car back.
Gary ElliottBy the way, there's this glowing orange thing on the side.
Gary ElliottI keep accidentally knocking something and it's the.
Gary ElliottI don't know what it is.
Gary ElliottBringing it back.
MikeHi, mate.
MikeI've got this light and it just keeps coming on and flashing and I don't know what to do with it.
MikeDon't use that, mate.
Gary ElliottI won't bother with it.
MikeYeah, no one else does.
MikeWe're trying to get taken off, but.
Gary ElliottThe Beamer I've got is this.
Gary ElliottI like the old 3 Series shape and model, which is why I went for it.
MikeThey look mint, to be fair.
MikeThey do look good, yeah.
Gary ElliottAnd whenever I say someone says, what are you driving?
Gary ElliottOr BMW, it's always like, are you whatever?
Gary ElliottWell, it's weird, just a basic Beamer.
MikeBecause if you say to someone, I've got a Beamer, but if you say, I've got an older Beamer, like, they sort of respect it more.
MikeDo you know what I mean?
MikeIt's weird that I get that completely.
MikeI do actually get that.
MikeAnyway, you're gonna buy this land speeder than.
MikeOr what?
Gary ElliottI think I might, mate.
Gary ElliottI'm a sucker for the old.
Gary ElliottFor the land speed.
Gary ElliottI'm glad they went with the X34, Luke's one as well, of course.
Gary ElliottAnd not the older.
Gary ElliottI wouldn't have been impressed with the V35 courier model.
MikeYeah, no one wants that cheap crap.
Gary ElliottNah, nah.
Gary ElliottSo I might do, mate.
Gary ElliottMight do good.
Gary ElliottI just.
Gary ElliottI've wanted it when it first was announced, but I just didn't want to drop 250 quid on it.
Gary ElliottBut now it's that I'm like, oh, don't know, it's more tempting.
MikeSo I'm like, fuck, yeah.
MikeNo, I think it's it.
MikeIt looks smart, man.
MikeIt does.
MikeIt looks really, really smart.
MikeI think things like this always look good displayed and like they're just never really going to age because the UCs are done.
MikeSo I don't.
MikeI don't want to say, obviously, like in a more detailed manner, but they're done in.
MikeIn such a heavy duty way that they just look quality, like they're not going to age.
MikeDo you know What I mean?
Mike20 years time, kiddo's got it.
MikeYou know, it's going to look good.
MikeSo, I mean, 475 quid, man.
MikeGeez.
MikeIt's almost daft.
MikeNot To.
MikeI'll tell you what is daft.
MikeGoing out dressed as Darth Vader.
MikeDon't do that unless you want to.
MikeIn which case we got your back.
MikeBecause Colombia, they do this annually.
MikeWe've had the Hoth stuff, we've had the X Wing stuff, some rebellion stuff.
MikeColumbia released more clothing and this is all based on Darth Vader.
MikeAnd you know what?
MikeI'm taking the piss a little bit, but in all honesty, there's some alright gear here, so.
MikeThere is.
MikeThere's some alright gear.
MikeWhat I'll do is I'll go through the stuff that's not, and then I'll sort of say what I think is decent and then we can just.
MikeYou can lambast me on it.
MikeYou can just hand me on it.
MikeSo that'll be good.
MikeSo basically all it is, I'm not a logo guy, all right?
MikeSo I'm not a character guy.
MikeI'm not a guy that's gonna walk out with a wolf on his sweatshirt.
MikeNor am I a guy that's gonna walk around with Darth Vader on his T shirt.
MikeI'm just not that guy.
MikeI'm a plain margarita eating mofo.
MikeAll right?
MikeSo whilst there are some lovely T shirts that have got Darth Vader on them, they're not for me.
MikeDon't sweat that.
MikeAnd I'll tell you what else.
MikeI'm not going to buy some shoes.
MikeI ain't buying walking boots, waterproof walking boots like Darth Vader because he could barely walk.
MikeSo testimony null and void.
MikeNor am I buying the Liam Gallagher bucket hat.
MikeNor am I buying that.
MikeBut what I will buy, what I might buy, there's a couple of little puffer jackets, there's a nice baseball cap, and there's, there's, there's actually like.
MikeYou know, when you're a kid at our age, right, and you're in like the 90s, right, and it's like you need a new school coat.
MikeAnd your dad's like, get one like that.
MikeI'm not gonna get one like that.
MikeThat'll look like a minor and not a child.
MikeAn actual minor.
MikeYep, a duffel coat.
MikeWe used to go out in the mid-70s.
MikeThey were all arranged.
MikeWell, they're not anymore.
MikeShagger.
MikeSo I'm not getting one of them.
MikeWell, it turns out that he wasn't lying about fashion coming round because there is what appears to be a miner's duffel coat there, but it's got inside of it a little zipping puffer jacket as well.
MikeSo I can see myself in that.
MikeLooking pretty fly.
MikeI can see myself in the other puffer jacket.
MikeLittle bit shiny, might look a little twatty, but I'm willing to risk it because I've got cheekbones that'll pull it off, as have you guys.
MikeSo Columbia's Darth Vader collection.
MikeWe'll stick a link in the show notes.
MikeGo and have a gander, see what you want.
MikeBut are you gonna get some of this?
MikeGuys, I think you look pretty fine.
Gary ElliottOh, my God, you forgot the socks, man.
Gary ElliottThe Darth Vader did forget the socks.
MikeThey're low risk.
MikeAren't they though?
MikeAnd there's a belt as well.
MikeImagine that, right?
MikeImagine that you're out on a night out, Saturday night out, right?
MikeMom, give me a credit card, right?
MikeI'm going out, finally getting out, right?
MikeGetting out.
MikeNeck beards.
MikeGetting out of the basement, going out downtown, swanning round.
MikeGet out there for like half six, whipping to walk about.
MikeBoom, there she is.
MikeWalk about, right?
MikeWhipping to walk about.
MikeYes, love.
MikeTwo person lemony lemonade.
MikeThank you very much.
MikeAnd some nuts, right?
MikeSome of them.
MikeYou see her over the dance floor.
MikeBoom.
MikeDirty dancing soundtrack on.
MikeYou whip your way over.
MikeSpare Persona and lemonade.
MikeThe night goes well, you take her home.
MikeThings are getting a bit heavy.
MikeThis belt's difficult to get off.
MikeWell, let me do it.
MikeAll right.
MikeWait a minute.
MikeWhat is that on that belt?
MikeUnrelated, do you know how to get an Uber at all?
MikeAre there any Ubers around here?
MikeDoes Uber serve this area at all?
MikeNeck beard, virginity intact, thanks to the Columbia Darth Vader belt.
MikeThat's all I'm saying, man.
MikeI'm not saying that happened to me at any point, but I can see how that would be a thing.
Gary ElliottPoor first experience saved mom can't get this belt off.
Gary ElliottCome on, take it out in a minute.
Gary ElliottCome and give me hand.
Gary ElliottThis girl's like, you're right, mate.
Gary ElliottYeah, just belt, yeah, New in it.
Gary ElliottI've got the end of it.
Gary ElliottI got.
Gary ElliottThere's a knack to taking it off.
MikeIt's a knack.
MikeOnly me and my mom can do it.
MikeAren't you 27?
MikeYeah, doesn't matter.
MikeDon't talk.
MikeShut up.
MikeDoesn't matter.
MikeSo what do you do?
Gary ElliottOh, God.
Gary ElliottThis new belt, love.
Gary ElliottOh, just hang on.
Gary ElliottAnd like mom.
MikeYou can see like classic Netbeard anger coming in as mom.
MikeA bit like Johnny Vegas on Benidorm.
MikeBecause she's not my mom, she's my peer.
Gary ElliottIt's a bit like an episode of the in betweeners.
Gary ElliottDon't.
Gary ElliottIf any listeners have seen it.
Gary ElliottYeah, I've only seen it briefly, but I remember seeing one episode where this guy's about to have his first experience and something's wrong downstairs and he starts punching the crap out of it.
Gary ElliottCan imagine that with his belt.
Gary ElliottJust smacking the crap out of it.
MikeIt's a funny episode that.
MikeWhy don't you just work?
Gary ElliottWhy don't you just work?
Gary ElliottYeah, same thing with a belt.
Gary ElliottWhy don't you just come off?
Gary ElliottAnd I need you to come off.
MikeWhen I'm running in front of my friends when I try out for the football team.
MikeYou fall down, don't you, you shit.
MikeBut not now.
Gary ElliottOh, yeah.
Gary ElliottI mean, who knows?
Gary ElliottThat experience could absolutely happen with his belt.
MikeWe need a satirical YouTube neckbeard channel that, like, parodies Star wars fans, that are the trolls.
MikeAnd we just, like.
MikeBasically, that's our contribution to Star wars fandom, is being like the police of.
MikeBut doing it through parody and just being a fat net beard.
Gary ElliottYeah, it's just.
Gary ElliottIt's written itself, really.
MikeIt's written itself.
MikeYeah.
MikeAnd since Carl Weathers died, we've not been able to make any of those kind of jokes out of respect.
MikeSo we've not.
MikeWe've had no characters to play against.
MikeBut now Darth Neckbeard returns.
Gary ElliottThe characters were there the whole time.
MikeWe could even do his breathing like Darth Vader, but it's just because he's fat and got asthma.
MikeJust get it.
MikeEvery time he runs upstairs for a sandwich.
MikeIt's like.
Gary ElliottThe unboxing video.
MikeAre you all right, Jason?
Gary ElliottJason?
Gary ElliottYeah, the unboxing video.
Gary ElliottJason, your Columbia package is here.
Gary ElliottYou've got a shake, Mom.
Gary ElliottJust drop it down the stairs.
MikeBut don't smash it.
Gary ElliottDarfeed a belt.
MikeAnd then he's like, definitely got a telephone voice when he's recording his YouTube.
MikeHey, guys, it's me, Jason.
MikeI'm back with a brand new unboxing here on my channel, Roblox.
Gary ElliottYeah, and it's that.
Gary ElliottOh, man.
Gary ElliottIt's the same YouTube spiel as well, isn't it?
Gary ElliottEvery other YouTube on the planet.
Gary ElliottAre you Jason here?
Gary ElliottI'm back again with another video.
Gary ElliottRemember to hit, like, subscribe.
MikeDon't forget to smash that like and subscribe button right now.
MikeSmash it.
MikeSmash it.
MikeLet me know what you think in the comments.
Gary ElliottYeah, we got more Star wars content on the way.
Gary ElliottYeah, smash subscribe button.
Gary ElliottOh, man.
Gary ElliottWhat are we talking about?
MikeJason the neckbeard in his mum's basement.
MikeThat Is quite literally a sketch waiting to happen.
Gary ElliottJason.
Gary ElliottYeah.
MikeSo you're not gonna buy the belt?
Gary ElliottNot getting the belt.
Gary ElliottBecause I'm fearful now of that playing out.
Gary ElliottYeah.
Gary ElliottBut I might pick up the baseball cap.
MikeIt does look nifty, that.
Gary ElliottQuite minimal.
Gary ElliottQuite.
Gary ElliottYeah, yeah.
Gary ElliottIt doesn't shout like, look at me, I've just sucked off Darth Vader.
Gary ElliottBut it looks quite cool.
MikeWell, it's one of those.
MikeWhat I quite like about.
MikeI'm a.
MikeI'm a real big fan of subtlety and stuff like this.
MikeIt's one of those where unless you knew what it was, you're just like, oh, that's a black baseball cap.
MikeThat's cool.
MikeBut yeah, and the subtlety would do it.
MikeThat's, I think, why I like the jackets because, like, I'm not a big puffer jacket guy.
MikeBut if, you know, you can buy jackets like that just else just in the shops, you know, you just get them.
MikeIt's not like it's.
MikeLook at me, I've got Star wars emblazoned on my back sort of thing.
MikeSo I do quite like these.
Gary ElliottDude, it's got detachable sleeves.
Gary ElliottOne of them.
MikeYeah.
MikeYou turn into a gilet, mate.
Gary ElliottIt's all nice.
MikeGillette.
MikeRude Gillet.
Gary ElliottLike it.
MikeRude gullet.
MikeHow have we never got to that?
MikeRude gullet Rudolet, the old football player.
MikeHow have that.
MikeHow has that never become a funny thing?
MikeAnd he's not really saying ball gullet, it's just.
MikeAnd he's always getting it wrong.
MikeNo, Forest Jagger, it's not rude Hullet, mate.
MikeI know you're into your Chelsea and your early 90s Netherlands football, but mate, it's Borgulit.
Gary ElliottRude.
MikeHow's that not a parody?
MikeJesus, we're on fire.
MikeUnbelievable.
MikeUnbelievable.
Gary ElliottKeep them coming.
MikeYeah, might bloody have to.
MikeRight, we're going to finish up on two rumors from the mill of Ruler.
MikeRumors.
MikeRulers.
MikeDo you know why I said rulers then?
MikeBecause I'm looking at this rumor and it's of Palpatine.
MikeSo in my head I was like ruler because he rules everything.
MikeDone it.
MikeSo well done.
MikeYeah.
MikeNever radio would I.
MikeSo we've got two rumors.
MikeThey're not rumors, they're just made up.
MikeSo the Sith archives have done a fan poster showing Tom Hiddleston as Palpatine.
MikeIt looks like they've took us a photo.
MikeA well lit.
MikeIt's either CGI or they've took a well lit photo of like a Loki Hot toys.
MikeBecause the skin texture looks like the throne one and then put it into like a Star wars story.
MikePalpatine.
MikeNow it's clearly bollocks, but the Hiddleston stuff has gone around for a while.
MikeEven Emitter chimed in and said actually a younger Palpatine story could be quite good.
MikeAnd Tom Hiddleston got interviewed recently, I think with Josh Horowitz.
MikeHad a bit of banter.
MikeJust saying I'd have to have to age myself up a little bit.
MikeThat said, this is clearly rumor.
MikeHowever, Acolyte's gone.
MikeDarth Plagueis is around.
MikeKhmer exists.
MikeYou know, there are threads that could be pulled upon that could lead into a young Palpatine thing.
MikeSo I.
MikeThis is truly a rumor.
MikeLike genuinely, I don't think there's anything in this, but I could see it happening.
MikeI could potentially see it happening.
MikeAnd I'll go as far as to say that I think Tommy Dalton would actually be perfect for it.
MikeI think it would be really good for it.
MikeSo, yeah, what do you make of this dude?
MikeClearly bollocks in it, but could be fun.
Gary ElliottYeah, clearly bs.
Gary ElliottAnd it is a hot toys figure, I think.
MikeIs it?
Gary ElliottI think so.
MikeWas it a low key one?
Gary ElliottYeah, I think so.
Gary ElliottI mean if they were to do it then I think it'd be like the casting would be great.
Gary ElliottI think he would be really good.
Gary ElliottHowever, the only thing I can go on with Power, I could be wrong here.
Gary ElliottThe only thing I can go on with Palps's history is that.
Gary ElliottAnd that's from the Plagueis book.
Gary ElliottNothing really happens with Palps until he gets into his kind of like his.
Mike20S, 30s, isn't it?
Gary ElliottYeah.
Gary ElliottAnd even then nothing really happens because he plays, as we know, because that character's so good at playing the long game.
Gary ElliottHe kind of established himself as a bit of a sort of low key political figure and then just behind the scenes, you know, does his thing quite slowly.
Gary ElliottSo casting wise, if they were to ever do it, yes, I think Hiddleston would be good story wise, narratively.
Gary ElliottI just don't think there's enough meat on the bones unless they just make stuff up.
Gary ElliottUnless they just retcon his stories backstory and throw in a load of cool stuff perhaps.
Gary ElliottBut as it stands at the minute, yeah, it's not much.
Gary ElliottNothing really happens with him until we get closer to him.
Gary ElliottThe Phantom Menace.
MikeWell, it's.
MikeWell, I think what's interesting about this entire setup is that there's opportunity probably to do like a Plagueis short series and just, you know, try and tie up some of the acolyte threads with come here because he was such a good character.
MikeAnd, you know, if you wanna.
MikeIf you want to bank a bit, just do something like that where you finish those stories, you lean on Plagueis and you introduce Palpatine as the next apprentice.
MikeAnd it doesn't need to.
MikeLike you said, everything that Palpatine did was manipulating banking clans with Plagueis and stuff and learning how to do stuff.
MikeHe didn't really go out and.
MikeWell, certainly not according to the Plagueis book.
MikeHe was not doing stuff like you said, out in the galaxy.
MikeHe was being a politician and learning to be a badass sith behind the scenes.
MikeSo it's.
MikeBut again, you're sort of in this challenging position where you've got a book that people love and Jason, the big neck Bee, Nikki, BJB is gonna just fly off the handle in it.
MikeIt's gonna fly off the handle.
MikeOh, this was not in the Plagueis.
MikeBut.
MikeNo, it's not.
MikeIt's not, is it?
MikeAnd it show you then back to the same issue, man.
MikeYeah, it's tough.
MikeIt's real tough.
Gary ElliottYeah, he'd lose it, old jb, wouldn't he just.
Gary ElliottYeah.
Gary ElliottYeah.
Gary ElliottStraight on the Internet.
Gary ElliottTwitter X.
Gary ElliottStar wars is over.
MikeChuck all his Star wars stuff away.
MikeBut he'd like you do it like Brent when he throws out the paper magazine.
MikeYou know what I mean?
MikeOh, I'll just place it on the bin and go back and get it at midnight.
MikeCrying.
MikeI'm sorry.
Gary ElliottYeah.
Gary ElliottI didn't mean to.
MikeMillennium.
MikeIt's not you, it's them.
Gary ElliottHiddleston night dude would be good.
MikeI like Kiddleston, mate.
MikeI think he's really good.
MikeI really like him.
MikeI think he's good just overall.
MikeSo I think.
MikeI actually think, like, he's very good as Loki, but it's sort of like that's like an easy role.
MikeIt feels, you know, he's just.
MikeI think he's even.
MikeI think he's just better than Loki, which I'm not saying I don't like Loki because I think he's good in that.
MikeBut.
MikeYeah.
MikeWell, the next one is interesting.
MikeSo this.
MikeThis scoop of my time to shine.
MikeHello.
MikeHas been doing the rounds.
MikeWe did this last week.
MikeHe scooped or they scooped another thing and they're calling it a scoop.
MikeIt's not.
MikeIt's a rumor.
MikeThey've been doing everything, man.
MikeThey've been doing everything.
MikeDaredevil, Spider Man, Avengers, Doomsday, Secret Wars.
MikeThis.
MikeThis scooper allegedly knows everything.
MikeRight?
MikeSo it's clearly Made up.
MikeBut again, who knows?
MikeSo the rumor is that one Henry Cavill is in talks to play someone in Star Wars.
MikeAnd then the article just goes on basically to list out every potential movie that is in the works by.
MikeBy virtue of doing that.
MikeTrying to link the fact that he could be part of any one of these.
MikeOf course he could, because they are movies that are in development and they need people.
MikeAnd then what they're doing is linking it to from 2016 at Cavill's post, where he's got some diving gear on.
MikeHe's swimming in the sea with some diving gear on, and he says, love, you know, to paraphrase, love being Superman.
MikeBut out here being like a villain in.
MikeIn Star wars or ready to play a villain in Star wars, clearly referencing the fact that his mask looks like Darth Vader.
MikeHe's not saying I want to be a villain in Star wars, is it?
MikeSo I think this has just come.
MikeI think it's just made up from that.
MikeHowever, I like Henry Cavill.
MikeIt was good in Superman.
MikeI thought it was a great Superman.
MikeEat if you disagree with me.
MikeThat's right.
MikeI'm Jason the Neckbeard.
MikeThe other thing I liked him in.
MikeI liked him Mission Impossible.
MikeReally liked him in Wolverine, Deadpool and Wolverine.
MikeThought it was really cool in that one.
MikeApparently he's in talks for a Marvel thing, but I'm gonna go out here and say if he was going to be in Star wars and he was going to be a villain, give me a Darth Bane trilogy with him in it.
MikeHe would be a really good Darth Bane.
MikeBig, strong, scary.
MikeCould start as the mine worker with the hair and everything else, and then just the descent into being Darth Bane.
MikeI think he would nail that, man.
MikeHe's a right nerd as well.
MikeHe's one of us.
Gary ElliottYes, Agreed.
Gary ElliottYeah.
Gary ElliottI like.
Gary ElliottI like Cavill.
Gary ElliottI think he's.
MikeHe likes you.
Gary ElliottHe's a cool.
Gary ElliottHe does.
Gary ElliottYeah.
Gary ElliottYeah.
Gary ElliottShook his hand a few seconds longer than he's comfortable.
Gary ElliottSo I knew.
Gary ElliottI knew he got this for good.
Gary ElliottAnd I.
Gary ElliottI think my, you know, I think one of my fave Superman films with him, man of Steel, is just still, you know, back in the early days before DC unalived themselves with all the.
Gary ElliottThat was such a cool film.
Gary ElliottAnd he was great, so.
Gary ElliottAnd he did show a little bit of.
Gary ElliottI wouldn't say too much of a darker side, but when he was in the Witcher for five minutes, he was.
Gary ElliottYeah, he was pretty cool in that.
Gary ElliottShowed a bit of a darker thing.
Gary ElliottSo Darth Bane.
Gary ElliottYeah, I can see that, mate.
MikeYeah.
MikeI think he would be good for that.
MikeHe's a big lad.
Gary ElliottHe's a beast sometimes, man.
Gary ElliottJesus.
MikeBig lad.
MikeBig lad.
MikeHe's definitely got the physicality for it.
MikeSo, yeah, no, I will see a lot.
MikeClearly a room.
MikeThis my time to shine.
MikeHello.
MikeDude is literally everywhere right now.
MikeAnything.
MikeThey're scooping anything and everything.
MikeSo we'll just see on that one.
MikeBut, yeah, I would never be a verse from recovery or anything.
MikeI think he got done dirty by dc.
MikeI think he was brill, regardless of some of the other Snyder stuff.
MikeI thought the Superman stuff was good.
MikeLike, they were getting close to a very good Superman then.
MikeI agree.
MikeMan of Steel was great.
MikeI really loved man of Steel.
MikeI thought it was a mint film.
MikeThat's another neckbeard syndrome in it.
MikeOur Superman wouldn't do that.
MikeHe would.
MikeHe's there.
MikeIt's literally written down that he's done that.
Gary ElliottGod, yeah.
Gary ElliottSuperman doesn't have a hairy chest.
Gary ElliottWho said that?
MikeYeah.
Gary ElliottOh, I don't know who specifically said it, but all the comic.
Gary ElliottNo, no, no, no, no.
MikeIn it.
Gary ElliottIt's fine, mate.
Gary ElliottIn it.
Gary ElliottSuperman didn't have hair chest.
MikeSuperman kill.
Gary ElliottGet my laptop.
Gary ElliottYeah, yeah, yeah.
MikeMy Chromebook.
Gary ElliottI need my Chromebook right now.
Gary ElliottComing, honey.
MikeDo you want some milk?
MikeNo, Mom, I'm an adult.
MikeOkay, I'll save it for later.
Gary ElliottThanks, Mom.
MikeHey there.
MikeWelcome back to my channel.
Gary ElliottRight, subscribe.
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MikeKathleen Kennedy.
MikeSmashing.
MikeStar Wars.
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Gary ElliottSmash.
MikeSmash.
MikeBig shout out to my friends.
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MikeStar Wars Theory.
MikeKeep on rocking, brother.
MikeKeep on rocking.
MikeI see y'all in the comments.
MikeJesus.
MikeRight, ladies.
MikeAnd stop.
MikeLet's put a pin in it there.
MikeFor this, the final episode of 2024, We Are Spark of Rebellion.
MikeThank you so much for joining us.
MikeWe've had a good bit of banter.
MikeIronically, there's been nothing to talk about.
MikeAnd then this week, actually, we've got some gear to talk about.
MikeAnd just as we're about to go on hiatus, but we will be back on January 18th.
MikeHuge shout out to Kev, Danny, Pascal, Denise, Tom, everyone that supports us, all of our very loyal listeners, we love and appreciate you, and we will wish you a very merry Christmas, a wonderful Thanksgiving if you're out there in the U.S.
Mikeand of course, a happy New Year.
MikeAnd we will be back January 18th with a complete review of Skeleton Crew, which we hope you enjoy.
MikeIf you want more?
MikeWell, you can check out the back catalog because we've got 230, 700 episodes that you can check out, I think roughly better thereabouts.
MikeSo go and check them out.
MikeAnd for me, it's Adios, Gazler.
MikeGood sesh, dude.
MikeCivic back here in the new year.
Gary ElliottIndeedy.
Gary ElliottYeah, good bance on this one.
Gary ElliottAnd ironically, yeah, a bunch of stuff dropped to talk about.
Gary ElliottSo, yeah, enjoy, enjoy the break, listener from listening to our ship for a couple of months.
Gary ElliottAnd we will be back in January.
Gary ElliottThank you very much.
Gary ElliottAs Mark said to our members and supporters, you guys are all very cool.
Gary ElliottHave a fab Christmas and enjoy skeleton crew.
Gary ElliottAnd we'll be back in the new year.
Gary ElliottSo until then, take care of yourselves.
Gary ElliottAnd may the force be with you always.
Gary ElliottSa.