Have you had enough of running your own business?
Jon Clayton:Have you had enough of architecture all together?
Jon Clayton:Maybe lately you've been tempted to jack it all in and get a job, but how
Jon Clayton:do you know if it's really time for you to call it quits and will getting
Jon Clayton:a job actually make you any happier?
Jon Clayton:Are there any alternatives?
Jon Clayton:That's exactly what we'll be exploring in this episode of Architecture
Jon Clayton:Business Club, the weekly podcast for small firm founders who want to build
Jon Clayton:their dream business in architecture and enjoy more freedom, flexibility,
Jon Clayton:and fulfillment in what they do.
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Jon Clayton:Now, let's explore if it's really time for you to quit.
Jon Clayton:hey, thanks for joining me today.
Jon Clayton:We are going to be looking at quitting.
Jon Clayton:We're gonna explore whether or not it's time for you to quit
Jon Clayton:the business of architecture.
Jon Clayton:So this might sound like a bit of a heavy topic, but I think it's an important one.
Jon Clayton:You might be listening to this now and this might be something that's
Jon Clayton:weighing down on your mind right now.
Jon Clayton:So I wanna try and help you with that.
Jon Clayton:So firstly, let's begin by considering, what are some of the signs that
Jon Clayton:might be indicating that it is time for you to quit your business?
Jon Clayton:It could be because the market has changed.
Jon Clayton:There's been shifts in the market, maybe down to new technologies or increased
Jon Clayton:competition in your local market.
Jon Clayton:That's maybe just making your previous or current business model obsolete.
Jon Clayton:Just think of some of the huge changes, particularly uh, in the uk some of the
Jon Clayton:changes that we've had in recent years.
Jon Clayton:We've had Brexit, we've had COVID ID we've had we rising building costs, we
Jon Clayton:have labor shortages, we've got cost of materials going through the roof.
Jon Clayton:We've had the introduction of the Building Safety Act.
Jon Clayton:We've got the rise of ai.
Jon Clayton:All of these things might be impacting the viability of your business, so maybe
Jon Clayton:the way that you did things before.
Jon Clayton:Needs to change.
Jon Clayton:Maybe it isn't gonna work the way that you did it before.
Jon Clayton:The other thing that might have changed is just your personal situation.
Jon Clayton:Maybe if your personal situation has changed, that business model
Jon Clayton:doesn't work anymore for the future.
Jon Clayton:So it could be that there have been some health issues, or maybe
Jon Clayton:you've got changing family needs that mean that what's stacked
Jon Clayton:up before is no longer viable.
Jon Clayton:And you just may need to prioritize other aspects of your life right now.
Jon Clayton:Maybe a business hasn't been generating enough money.
Jon Clayton:Maybe it's just not generating enough income, or you've constantly
Jon Clayton:been running at a loss with no clear path to profitability.
Jon Clayton:Maybe you are lacking in passion for your business.
Jon Clayton:Perhaps you just don't enjoy doing it anymore.
Jon Clayton:Maybe you've lost that drive for your business, that drive that you had at
Jon Clayton:the very beginning, that excitement when you started your business.
Jon Clayton:Maybe that's, that's fizzled away.
Jon Clayton:If that's the case, it may be difficult for you to make the big changes that
Jon Clayton:might be needed for you to be able to make the business viable again, and for
Jon Clayton:you to work through those challenges.
Jon Clayton:Maybe your business is making you unhappy or unwell when you are.
Jon Clayton:Work is making you unhappy or it's constantly impacting your wellbeing.
Jon Clayton:This is not a good situation to be in.
Jon Clayton:So if you're feeling constantly stressed or exhausted, you are going to struggle to
Jon Clayton:make sound decisions about your business and your business will inevitably suffer.
Jon Clayton:Or maybe you're just feeling at the end of your tether that nothing you've tried
Jon Clayton:lately seems to have worked despite all of your best efforts, you just can't seem to
Jon Clayton:find a way to get your business to work.
Jon Clayton:So there's a lot of reasons why you might consider quitting closing
Jon Clayton:your business, but does quitting mean that you are a failure?
Jon Clayton:Thomas Edison once said,
Jon Clayton:I have not failed.
Jon Clayton:I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
Jon Clayton:When things don't work as you expect, you can see it as a failure, which
Jon Clayton:means your business is a failure.
Jon Clayton:Thus you are a failure, or at least that's how you feel, or you can see
Jon Clayton:each failure as a learning opportunity and experiment a positive step.
Jon Clayton:You might have heard people talking about failing fast or failing forward.
Jon Clayton:When you reframe how you think about failure, failure
Jon Clayton:actually becomes a good thing.
Jon Clayton:As the more you fail, the faster you can figure out how you can succeed.
Jon Clayton:So you either win or you learn.
Jon Clayton:You never lose.
Jon Clayton:So maybe now you're thinking, okay, so quitting or closing my business,
Jon Clayton:that doesn't mean that I'm a failure, but you might still feel like your
Jon Clayton:business is your baby and you're just not sure that you can let it go.
Jon Clayton:Remember, babies eventually grow up and leave home, but I get it though.
Jon Clayton:You've put blood, sweat, and tears into making your business work, so I understand
Jon Clayton:why you don't want to let it go.
Jon Clayton:But if your business is losing money or it's making you unhappy, something
Jon Clayton:really does need to change your business.
Jon Clayton:Doesn't have to be forever.
Jon Clayton:Yes, it would be lovely if your business grew and grew to create a
Jon Clayton:lifelong legacy for you and your family.
Jon Clayton:And if your business model is right, you can have that.
Jon Clayton:Others certainly do.
Jon Clayton:There's lots of other examples of this.
Jon Clayton:But that's not the aim of most individuals that start a business.
Jon Clayton:Most people start a business because they want more freedom, flexibility,
Jon Clayton:and fulfillment in what they do.
Jon Clayton:They're not thinking about building out a big corporation
Jon Clayton:and creating a future legacy.
Jon Clayton:That's not usually the motivations and reasons why most people do it.
Jon Clayton:So does your business give you those things right now?
Jon Clayton:Do you have the level of flexibility that you really wanted?
Jon Clayton:Are you feeling fulfilled enough?
Jon Clayton:Do you truly feel like you're free?
Jon Clayton:If you've answered no to any of those questions, you are not alone.
Jon Clayton:I. Most small business owners feel cheated at some point after starting
Jon Clayton:up, usually because they've made the mistake of creating another
Jon Clayton:job rather than a business.
Jon Clayton:And this time with the world's worst boss.
Jon Clayton:Yeah, that's right.
Jon Clayton:I'm talking about you.
Jon Clayton:If you want to learn more about why most small businesses don't work, then
Jon Clayton:pick up a copy of the E-Myth Revisited.
Jon Clayton:A great book by Michael e Gerber.
Jon Clayton:So if your business doesn't seem to stack up anymore, there is
Jon Clayton:no shame in closing it down.
Jon Clayton:That doesn't take away all of the good things that you've achieved
Jon Clayton:throughout the course of its life.
Jon Clayton:You can look at it like a chapter that's closing.
Jon Clayton:So a new, more exciting, more appealing chapter can begin.
Jon Clayton:Bear in mind though that closing a business isn't without cost.
Jon Clayton:It will take time and money.
Jon Clayton:You'll have winding up costs like accounting fees, maybe legal fees.
Jon Clayton:You'll need to settle any outstanding debts that you have if you have a
Jon Clayton:loan or a business credit card, and you'll likely have to pay for runoff,
Jon Clayton:professional indemnity insurance.
Jon Clayton:So before you rush to go and close down your business.
Jon Clayton:I'd like you to just step back from the brink and consider your options,
Jon Clayton:and you really have three options.
Jon Clayton:You can stay, you can stop, or you can start.
Jon Clayton:So let's look at each of those in turn.
Jon Clayton:So to stay is to continue on as you are.
Jon Clayton:It's the status quo, and this might feel like the safest option, even though that
Jon Clayton:right now your business is not providing enough income or enough security or enough
Jon Clayton:fulfillment for you, but it is familiar.
Jon Clayton:It's what you know.
Jon Clayton:It's what you've been doing.
Jon Clayton:And there's probably a little voice in your head that says, hang
Jon Clayton:on in there, because next year things are going to be better.
Jon Clayton:If I can just hang on there long enough, things will turn around for the better.
Jon Clayton:So in the short term, this may feel like the best option, certainly the least
Jon Clayton:painful as you won't have to put your big pants on and face up to the fact.
Jon Clayton:That your business isn't really viable right now.
Jon Clayton:You won't have to make any big, scary, life changing decisions, but in doing
Jon Clayton:nothing and avoiding that painful stuff, you will delay any positive change.
Jon Clayton:So it's like accepting a slow death instead of just ripping off the bandaid.
Jon Clayton:I've had firsthand experience of this, of hoping my business would improve
Jon Clayton:if I just hung in there long enough.
Jon Clayton:When my family and I relocated to Norfolk in 2016, my work really slowed down.
Jon Clayton:We'd moved to a small market town and compared to where we used to live.
Jon Clayton:There was twice as many competitors and less than half the number of properties
Jon Clayton:locally, so that was less than half the number of prospective clients.
Jon Clayton:Now, that in itself should have raised some major alarm bells.
Jon Clayton:I did have concerns, but in my usual, optimistic way, I thought.
Jon Clayton:This is gonna be fine.
Jon Clayton:Like things will come good.
Jon Clayton:I just need to make a few little tweaks.
Jon Clayton:So I made tweaks to my website.
Jon Clayton:I changed my branding, I updated my offers in reality.
Jon Clayton:All too little avail at the time.
Jon Clayton:These felt like big changes to me, but in hindsight, I hadn't
Jon Clayton:really changed anything at all except maybe the window dressing.
Jon Clayton:I mean, after all, I was still trying to sell exactly the same thing, architectural
Jon Clayton:services to homeowners that were maybe planning home renovations or home
Jon Clayton:extension projects, and that was in a local market where there just was not
Jon Clayton:enough demand for that particular service.
Jon Clayton:I spent the next seven years struggling to make this work.
Jon Clayton:Seven years of inconsistent and insufficient cash flow.
Jon Clayton:Seven years of growing frustration, seven years of uncertainty for me and my family.
Jon Clayton:Seven years of staying the same.
Jon Clayton:Finally, I realized and accepted that my business wasn't
Jon Clayton:viable in its current form.
Jon Clayton:That what had worked where we used to live just didn't work in our new location,
Jon Clayton:that there just wasn't enough of those domestic clients locally to go round.
Jon Clayton:So the size of the opportunity just wasn't big enough for me.
Jon Clayton:I ask you, do you want seven more years of not enough, or do you
Jon Clayton:want things to change quicker?
Jon Clayton:If you want to avoid the prolonged pain that I've been through, staying the
Jon Clayton:same really isn't an option for you.
Jon Clayton:So what else can you do?
Jon Clayton:So probably the scariest option is to stop to close your business.
Jon Clayton:So this is the scariest thing you could do, but it's also the bravest and it's
Jon Clayton:the one that affords you a clean slate.
Jon Clayton:Imagine how freeing it would feel to be free of all of the bad stuff that you've
Jon Clayton:been having to deal with on your own.
Jon Clayton:No more demanding clients.
Jon Clayton:No more unreliable income.
Jon Clayton:No more wearing a dozen different hats.
Jon Clayton:No more stress.
Jon Clayton:No more sleepless nights or unhappiness, and no more burnout.
Jon Clayton:You could get a job.
Jon Clayton:You've already been looking at job ads.
Jon Clayton:You could get paid more working for someone else than
Jon Clayton:you pay yourself right now.
Jon Clayton:You'd also get proper holidays where you could fully switch off and
Jon Clayton:you'd finish work on time every day.
Jon Clayton:Finding clients would be.
Jon Clayton:Someone else's responsibility again, and you'd never have to do the tasks that
Jon Clayton:you hate, like bookkeeping ever again.
Jon Clayton:And social media, I mean, you really hated doing social media.
Jon Clayton:That would be somebody else's job too.
Jon Clayton:It sounds lovely, doesn't it?
Jon Clayton:Yeah.
Jon Clayton:Sounds great.
Jon Clayton:Why would you ever want to run your own business again when
Jon Clayton:you could have a job like that?
Jon Clayton:And I agree, it sounds very enticing, but let's take a reality check.
Jon Clayton:Is that really a balanced, realistic view of being employed?
Jon Clayton:I mean, how likely is it that you are actually going to land a perfect job?
Jon Clayton:That dream job that I've just described, and let's be really honest about this.
Jon Clayton:There's no such thing as a perfect job.
Jon Clayton:If there was, you would've never have started your own
Jon Clayton:business in the first place.
Jon Clayton:There are just some jobs that are better than other jobs.
Jon Clayton:Being employed, there may still be tasks that you have to do that you
Jon Clayton:really don't like, and you might still have to work late sometimes.
Jon Clayton:Or you might have to miss out on something to attend a work
Jon Clayton:meeting or to meet a work deadline.
Jon Clayton:So ultimately it's going to be a trade off, but there are definitely things you
Jon Clayton:could gain by being employed depending on what your current situation is.
Jon Clayton:But what is it that you stand to lose if you worked for another company?
Jon Clayton:What would you miss about working for yourself?
Jon Clayton:I. Well, for me, I'd miss being able to work from a coffee shop whenever I
Jon Clayton:like, or being able to choose my working hours to suit my own energy levels
Jon Clayton:and to fit around my family so I never miss things like the kids' sports day.
Jon Clayton:I'd also miss being fully in control of my availability for meetings and
Jon Clayton:calls, having full autonomy over creative decisions and what personal and
Jon Clayton:professional development I choose to do.
Jon Clayton:These sorts of things are often the reasons why we start our own
Jon Clayton:business in the first place, but sometimes we can lose sight of this.
Jon Clayton:So I'd love to know.
Jon Clayton:Why did you start your own business?
Jon Clayton:How did that come about?
Jon Clayton:What were the reasons behind it?
Jon Clayton:Because thinking about that, again, might just give you clarity on whether
Jon Clayton:you should close your business and get a job, or if you should change
Jon Clayton:your business, which leads us on to, to start to start something new.
Jon Clayton:So if you've accepted that things do need to change, but you're still
Jon Clayton:sitting on the fence about closing your business and looking for a job,
Jon Clayton:this might be the best option for you.
Jon Clayton:And the good news is you don't need to go for the nuclear option
Jon Clayton:of closing your business down.
Jon Clayton:Instead, you can pivot, you could start serving a new market.
Jon Clayton:You could offer new services or change your business model entirely.
Jon Clayton:I. You could go into a completely different line of work using
Jon Clayton:the same limited company that you've already set up.
Jon Clayton:Did you know that you can use a different trading name to your limited company
Jon Clayton:name, or that if you wanted to change your limited company name or your business
Jon Clayton:category with company's house in the uk, it's quick and easy to do it, and if
Jon Clayton:you're a sole trader, it's even easier.
Jon Clayton:And if you're a sole practitioner.
Jon Clayton:You don't have to get permission from multiple stakeholders or have
Jon Clayton:to consider how your new business direction affects your employees.
Jon Clayton:You just need to decide on what needs to change, make
Jon Clayton:those changes and get started.
Jon Clayton:So changing things can be much easier and quicker than perhaps you might think.
Jon Clayton:Plus, if you've been in business for a while, you'll have a wealth of data you
Jon Clayton:can use to give yourself a head start.
Jon Clayton:And if you tried lots of things already that haven't worked, that's great.
Jon Clayton:You now know what not to do.
Jon Clayton:But what else haven't you tried?
Jon Clayton:Can you see another way forward with your business?
Jon Clayton:Do you have ideas for a new service or for a new business model?
Jon Clayton:If you're not 100% sure, you don't even have to go a hundred percent all in.
Jon Clayton:You can keep doing a bit of what you do now or what you did
Jon Clayton:previously alongside something new.
Jon Clayton:Experiment.
Jon Clayton:Have some fun.
Jon Clayton:Smell what sells.
Jon Clayton:Keep doing what works and ditch what doesn't.
Jon Clayton:Now, I shared with you earlier how I realized that my own architecture
Jon Clayton:business needed to change.
Jon Clayton:I realized after seven years of struggle that if I wanted my architecture
Jon Clayton:business to thrive, I'd need to widen my niche to include non-domestic projects
Jon Clayton:like most traditional local firms.
Jon Clayton:Or I'd need to widen the area that I served, or I would need to do
Jon Clayton:something completely different.
Jon Clayton:Honestly, the idea of being a generalist practiced it.
Jon Clayton:It really didn't appeal to me.
Jon Clayton:I enjoyed working with homeowners and it would mean accepting other
Jon Clayton:local inquiries that I'd previously been very happy to keep turning away.
Jon Clayton:Things like.
Jon Clayton:Plans for agricultural buildings or planning permission for an
Jon Clayton:illuminated sign over a local takeaway, like stuff like that.
Jon Clayton:Like just stuff that really didn't light me up.
Jon Clayton:Widening the area that I served.
Jon Clayton:Also felt really tricky because most of the clients that I'd had contact with
Jon Clayton:preferred working with local providers.
Jon Clayton:I felt that I'd have to become amazingly good at architectural design to
Jon Clayton:attract clients from further afield.
Jon Clayton:I was certainly competent at design, but not exceptional.
Jon Clayton:This felt like too much of a stretch, and I also didn't feel
Jon Clayton:brave enough to close my business.
Jon Clayton:So the change that I decided to make was, in hindsight, quite unconventional.
Jon Clayton:I decided to launch this podcast to be more visible, to build my personal brand.
Jon Clayton:I did it because for a long time I'd wanted to help other people like me.
Jon Clayton:People who had started their own business in architecture and then discovered
Jon Clayton:it was harder than they ever realized.
Jon Clayton:That there was all this other stuff they needed to learn about,
Jon Clayton:like business sales and marketing.
Jon Clayton:I thought that over time that this could lead to new revenue streams.
Jon Clayton:And if I'm really honest, at the time I just didn't know what else to do.
Jon Clayton:I'd love the idea of podcasting for years, but I'd never felt brave enough to do it.
Jon Clayton:But I got to the point where launching this podcast felt less scary than
Jon Clayton:the other options The option of closing my business and certainly
Jon Clayton:more appealing than working on projects that didn't light me up.
Jon Clayton:So I planned to carry on accepting domestic client projects until I'd
Jon Clayton:figured out a new way to make a living.
Jon Clayton:I thought this would take three months or so.
Jon Clayton:In reality, it took around 18 months to figure out what my next
Jon Clayton:chapter would be and how I would make a living in the future.
Jon Clayton:And I'll be honest with you, it's been really hard.
Jon Clayton:It wasn't until CIAT asked me to produce their Where it's at podcast that I
Jon Clayton:finally realized what I wanted to do.
Jon Clayton:I wanted to help other businesses get into podcasting, particularly those operating
Jon Clayton:in and around the world of architecture.
Jon Clayton:And it just clicked.
Jon Clayton:It felt right.
Jon Clayton:It was the first time in years that I felt excited about my work again,
Jon Clayton:and I felt completely confident in my abilities to help them.
Jon Clayton:Turns out, without realizing it, in building this podcast,
Jon Clayton:I'd built my portfolio.
Jon Clayton:I guess sometimes your niche really does choose you, so back to you.
Jon Clayton:I'd consider how you're feeling right now and what you would feel like in
Jon Clayton:a year's time if nothing had changed for you or if things had gotten even
Jon Clayton:worse, what would that do to you?
Jon Clayton:What would it do to your finances?
Jon Clayton:What would it do to your health and wellbeing?
Jon Clayton:What would it do to your family?
Jon Clayton:How would it affect your most important relationships?
Jon Clayton:If things aren't going well, don't wait for things to change on their own.
Jon Clayton:Be the change that you want to see because true change comes from from within.
Jon Clayton:Only you can change the things in your world, and you have far more
Jon Clayton:control over things in your life than you realise So what to do next?
Jon Clayton:I'd say before you make any big decisions, I'd encourage you to take some time out.
Jon Clayton:So I would block out your calendar.
Jon Clayton:I would book an away day, even better, book a holiday, give this
Jon Clayton:decision the space and time that it deserves, and consider what your
Jon Clayton:life would be like if you choose to stay, stop, or start something new.
Jon Clayton:Then decide what you're going to do, and if you're still feeling
Jon Clayton:unsure, feel free to reach out to me.
Jon Clayton:I'd be glad to help you if I can.
Jon Clayton:Hope this episode's been useful to you, and if you think it would
Jon Clayton:help somebody else, then please share it with your network.
Jon Clayton:I'd be most grateful.
Jon Clayton:Next time we're joined by Jason McDade to explore how we can
Jon Clayton:normalize imposter syndrome.
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Jon Clayton:Running your architecture business.
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