Hello, hello, and welcome to the Borealis

experience. I'm your host Aurora, life coach and companion

on this beautiful journey called life. And I'm very excited to

introduce you to Anthony Secilia today, a friend of mine who is

an author,

a really bad as author, I was honored to read into his book.

Already that has not been published yet. It's called the

footprints of funny feet. And it's a book written to dedicated

to Anthony's nieces. And it is so

very touching. And it is so exciting to read and funny story

because you don't really

know who he is, until you start reading and I feel you really

get to know Anthony through his words. And yeah, we want to talk

about his book today, we want to talk about his experience.

During COVID. It was a very intense one, like for many

people who are listening.

But let's start with you, Anthony, and your beautiful book

here. Welcome to the show.

Thanks for having me. I appreciate your time today. Yes,

you are so welcome. And I'm happy to get to know you in

person here over zoom.

So I didn't read the book back to back, of course, because

there was not enough time. But I started reading at the point

where you talk about Nero, your dad, and the relationship that

you had with your dad. And I can relate very well. I love my my

dad to pieces, but we also had very dark moments and difficult

situations. But when I was reading about you and your dad,

I could really see feel and sense your anger and frustration

with him.

How were you able to to overcome these dark feelings with your

dad? Or would you say are you still?

Yeah, in a in a difficult relationship with him.

So that's a very funny story.

I was sent to the ICU a couple times. And

I was put in there because of blood loss. And

I think I was there for about five days on interviewed is

because I had lost like nearly half my blood. I had lost about

80 units of blood, because I was just getting sick so often.

But when I was in ICU,

I called my uncle

from Italy

because they offered to do a endoscopy to see where I was

bleeding. And

my uncle called my father

to

go to the hospital to pick me up. Because I was pretty weak at

the time and then my

mother walked in. I think I was void as a ghost because you had

to remember I just lost so much blood and

my father

suspecting that I would die.

Basically apologize for everything he did.

And that kind of snapped him out of the whole anger situation.

Wow.

Wow.

So in face in the face of death. You suddenly had that really

realisation Oh my God, what did I do? And can I can answer me

Forgive me for it.

Yeah. Holy shit.

Yeah, it was quite a moment.

Like I had I had nothing to say because I was too weak. Yeah.

But like I heard him.

Yeah, I heard him.

I think he was trying. I think he was traumatized by the whole

city.

ration. Yeah.

Like in general, like, they picked me up from the ICU vote

five days later. And

I just went home, and I sat on a chair and I just slept for like,

a couple hours.

And

actually, I guess the hospital made a mistake. Because even

though I lost blood, they forgot to say, well, you need some

iron.

You need some iron pills. So that I was going home, I was

sleeping six, seven hours a day, for two weeks. When I said, I

called up my doctor, I said, Why am I so exhausted? So then they

did these

blood tests on me, they're like, Oh, you only have 90 units, 100

units of bloody. So we're going to put you on iron pills for the

next three months. I said, Okay, that's fine. And

so I went on iron pills for the next three months. And then

after that, it was like, 160 units of blood, which is quite

healthy.

And then I slowly recovered from there.

But

yeah, like the whole experience of me having ulcers basically

traumatize my parents enough to actually like, not physically

bend to their knee, but emotionally bend their knee, and

be like, we're gonna lose this kid. So we better make make

things right before we don't have a chance to.

That is so incredibly beautiful. And isn't it so crazy how it

takes

dramatic circumstances for a person to snap out of a mold.

And at the same time, it's awesome. It's so great. But I

also think fit doesn't always have to get to that point, I

guess. I guess. So. I guess so.

I guess for some people, you know, stubbornness. Italian.

Yeah.

But this is so great. This is this is very beautiful, that,

that you were able to experience that and I'm sure for you

emotionally. It gave you so much strength to hold on to life and,

and to keep fighting for your health. And now Now you're doing

way better, right? Yeah, I'm doing so much better. Yeah. So I

had I had, I had separated my hip. While I was sleeping one

night, I had a metal rod placed in my hip when I was in my early

20s to restructure the bone

because I had surgery related to my cerebral palsy.

Well, in that surgery when I was when I was 20 years old, what

they did was they went in and broke both my hips and placed

metal rods in my head.

Well, turns out 13 years later, the metal rod in one of the legs

didn't didn't want to agree with the bone structures. So

it dislocated one of the hips.

And I woke up and pain and all that stuff. And so when I was in

there in the hospital for hernia surgery,

I had asked my thoracic surgery team if I could

get some physical rehabilitation because at that point, after the

hip injury, I walked in about four years.

So I didn't want

I lost the ability to walk in 2018 and I haven't walked since

on my own without any aids or anything like that. So even

though I have cerebral palsy, I'm pretty independent, and I

walk

pretty independently on my own without any support at all.

That being said about I'm actually pretty tough on my

bones because of that, but I'm also very stubborn because they

don't want to rely on AIDS. And you're Italian that doesn't help

either right? Yeah

I'm not going to cut this out.

So when I when I had a physical

rehabilitation inside the hospital there.

They told me that I've been have rehabilitation for about two

weeks. And then I asked if I can go to a rehab center to actually

finish the progress.

But they sent me there. But unfortunately, the progress

wasn't enough to convince the people at the rehab center that

the surgery was a good idea. I had planned surgery for a hip

replacement in May. But when the other hospital got wind that my

hernia first open, they wanted to delay the surgery until I was

better. Yeah, of course.

But then

the thoracic surgeon said, you know, you can operate on him and

so many days,

they gave me a 60 day window to do to do a hip surgery.

Because they had done the hernia surgery, and it was a success.

And then

my thoracic surgeon gave me the clearance to do the hip surgery.

I had the hip surgery in March 24,

for the removal of steel rod that was infecting my leg and

causing bursitis.

Now because I had severe arthritis,

there was there's no point in just leaving the leg the way it

was.

So

I was told by my hip surgeon that I would have two surgeries

and it wouldn't be staged. The first surgery would be the

removal of a steel rod. And the second surgery wouldn't be the

the need for total hip replacement on the left side.

And he said, Well, you're probably the youngest guy you've

ever had, that we've ever had to operate on, because you're only

36.

And I told him, I told him, Look, I know, we both give me a

bad rap because I'm young. And you know, they don't want to

operate on me because I'm a young guy, and I may need

surgery in the future. And that scares people, because how many

replacements will they're going to need for a young guy like

myself.

So that's why most surgeons, they don't want to touch me. But

I made a deal with the surgeon, I said, well,

thank you for doing that surgery. But like if, if I'm in

pain,

like if the pain is radiating through my head, and it's

limiting my mobility to move, then we're gonna have to look at

the possibility of getting me ahead. Even though I am young,

and I get it.

But you have to realize that the circumstances behind me needing

surgery is different from someone that's say, able bodied

or 80 years old. People that are 80 years old and have arthritis,

get more hip replacements than people with disabilities.

Because some of the doctors just believe that

they have to wait it out, but I'm not that type of individual.

So, for me,

I hadn't gone to my hip surgeon, I said look like I need it. I

need a hip surgery, my grades are hurting, I can't move. It's

taking me three or singing me two or three nurses to get to

the bathroom. Like this is terrible. I'm 36 years old. If I

wait 10 more years, it's going to be 10 times worse. I need

this now like

and I told him like I said people want ice cream. But I

want it like I need it.

I want ice cream. But I need it. Like if this was my choice. I

wouldn't want it but all but these these are the

circumstances that led me do that. So he says he says okay,

yeah, we'll

give you the hip. And then

we had planned for December.

Like December just passed and of course with the pandemic and the

shutdown the government.

The whole regular war with that. They got postponed and then I

got into hockey

He selling tickets and stuff like that.

Just to get my mind off of

waiting,

I want to, I wanted to stay busy doing something

during a pandemic.

And I realized, hey, you know, I used to be a sports reporter at

college. And it was a pretty good one. If I remember, now, I

don't think I'll be able to go into the broadcast booth right

down in my condition, but I can ensure sell tickets. So that's

what I ended up doing.

And then what happened is, is that

the arena shut down. And then, you know, there's so many

problems with the mandatory mandates, and Ottawa and all

that stuff. So I just kind of stepped away from it and

cleared up a few things with my book and

went to town on that.

But the book itself was like

I think I started it in September of 2021.

And I had finished

in

just after December.

And I had the fortunate

circumstance of having a local publisher here, that gave me

incentive to actually give me a contact information for

photographer, she was really nice. I was really nervous about

having my photo taken.

Only because I didn't know how things were gonna go. Like, I'm

not nervous at all to get my photo taken. But physically, I

was nervous, because, you know, I'm in a wheelchair, I didn't

know how things were gonna go. I didn't know if I was gonna

challenge challenger in some way, or I didn't know if she was

gonna be like, No, can't photograph you.

But she was so nice. She was like, no, no, no, step into my

studio work around that. And I'm like, That's so nice. So I ended

up doing that. And

so then,

from the photoshoot, we ended up

where I ended up working with a publisher to finalize some

things and, you know, get some details. And then I went back to

my surgeons on both sides. And I said, I want to turn this into a

book, because I've been through a lot of junk. I've been through

a lot of trials

of stuff.

And I want to turn this into a book. Can I have permission from

you guys? To take my medical information and put it into a

book?

Oh, yeah, sure. It's your medical information.

So they gave me the medical information.

i Oh, I unfortunately, you know, I'm not a doctor. So I've had to

skim through it. And I've had to understand some things. And

I've had to actually work alongside the publisher, so he

can

not make it so that it's so much medical jargon, so that the

ordinary person can understand what's going on. Yeah. Damn it

down.

Yeah. Translated language in itself, right. Yeah.

So he's been working with me for about, I want to say two or

three months. And, you know, the Publishing Group is pretty

fantastic.

But I never understood how much publishing the book would take.

It's a lot of stress.

But it's certainly a lot of fun.

It's just a lot of work. Yeah, certainly, I was able to put the

work in, but I didn't realize how much work it would entail.

But I'm glad I did it. Because if I went to say, a Simon and

Schuster type,

publisher or a Barnes and Noble type publisher, you know, they

probably want to talk to my work and it in their own little spin

on it without very little input from me. So I'm happy I kind of

went independently and kind of went self publishing route.

Because then I maintain the integrity of the book.

So that

At least 100%. Yeah, so it's the publisher asking the questions.

You want this picture here and you want this picture there and

you want. What about this information? What about this

chapter. And so it's constant correspondence with the

publisher. And we're working together, like,

through the weeks and months. It's just great. It's

challenging for both of us. But

you know, that's,

that's the end zones of creating book.

So sweet.

Yeah, and I read in your book, also, that

it wasn't always clear that you were going to become an author,

like you went to school for it for journalism. And you went

through your travels there and encountered obstacles. But for

some reason, being a writer is way stronger than the obstacles

that you you faced. And I find this so beautiful and inspiring

for people to know that if you have a dream, if you feel that

mission is coming through you, nothing can stop you.

Yeah. So a little story about my writing, like, you say, it's,

it's great. But I can tell you, like 10 years ago, my writing

was horrible. Like,

I don't even know how I got through elementary school or

high school because my writing was horrible. Even in college,

my writing was horrible. It wasn't until

my hand conference with a new with a news writing teacher that

says, Anthony, your writing is horrible, but you have the

passion to write. But you're just all over the map. I said,

Well, I don't have the skill. I don't have the skills to do

this. What are the skills? What are the like? Because when you

write for news, you gotta read in a certain way. Yeah.

It's not like, what did you do last summer? Like, you know,

it's not like one of those three reports. So I had to learn that

skill. It was a huge learning curve for me.

Like, there was moments where I just wanted to say, Oh, this

professor has no idea what he's talking about.

But it turns out he did.

So he ended up taking me aside is that if you can actually

understand what's happening, so it could be a good writer.

He's like, I know you have the passion for it. Because I see it

in your writing. You just lack, like, grammar or

sentence structure when it comes to news, because you probably

have never been taught that. I said, bingo, you're right on I

had never been taught how to write news.

This is why you're the teacher. Yeah. And

it got to the point where I was about ready to fail. Like, the

teachers were about ready to fail me.

And

I said, No, no dough family. I really want to do this broadcast

thing. I really want to go and have a life in sports Don't fail

me yet. Like don't give up yet. Like if I have to read a book,

like throughout the summer to understand like, how news is

written in proper format, and then I will do that.

And so

I don't think the teacher gave

gave it much thought.

And he basically said, What, okay, I'll give you a shot.

But he basically

kind of ripped me off, not, not expecting that I would actually

come back and prove him wrong. But I wasn't trying to prove him

wrong. I was trying to understand what he was trying to

teach him.

So, in college, we had a lot of time off, we get time off in May

and then we go back in September.

Well, this is around the time when

the procedure Jackson books were very, like very influential in

society. And I know a lot of people were Harry Potter fans, I

wasn't, but like, back in the day, I said a mythology with a

friend of mine.

So I said, if I can read the entire series, out loud, maybe I

can understand how to write news.

So that's what I did. I went home

sat on my parents farm. And I read five books in one summer,

out loud, outside and

outside on a hammock. And they had said, my parents had said,

what do you do? I said, I'm getting ready for school. I want

to know how to write news properly.

And then

I came back in September, and I was given a couple tests on news

writing, because we're given news writing assignments. Once a

week, twice a week. And

the professor scored me 71. And he's like, Oh, you did good.

7585. And then by the fourth week is like, what do you do?

Because your writing is improved, like, what have you

done? I said, Well, I went home and I read three pathology out

loud, is like, really? I see? Of course I did. You told me to be

better writer. And this is the writing that I understood until

I applied it to news, right. And from that, like, he didn't

question my ability to write again. I said, No, it's good

that you challenged me. Because if he didn't challenge me, I

probably would have said, Forget it. It's not worth the effort.

But I realize now that because I've had a great teacher, and

great teachers in journalism, like they help write the book

without even realizing it, because it's their skill that

helped me write this book. Like, I can have all the passion in

the world. But if, if you don't know how to write a book that is

struggling,

no, no. Ah, that is so beautiful. I just said

goosebumps all over my body. And it is.

It is so fascinating, those moments where we feel challenged

by another person. And at the same time, there is a part in us

that says, No, but actually, they're right. And actually, I

can accept the challenge. I'm not going to be a victim and cry

in my corner, I'm going to sit down and apply what is taught to

me, it also takes great teachers, yeah, if you had an

asshole, as a teacher, who would formulate it in a way that made

you feel shitty, and, you know, worthless, you might have not

picked up that challenge. And

but he had this, this talent to challenge you in the right way.

Not too much, not not too little. And you, you attacted

and tackled it and made something out of it. And I mean,

everybody who's reading books, there's always the

acknowledgments with the pre fast, where people mentioned

other people that helped them. And so it takes it takes a huge

team to create a book and not just a writer.

And you got to, you got to admit to yourself that you can do it

all you can do the perfect selfie, or you can do the

perfect illustrations, you need other people, and so nice to, to

reach out and then feel that people are on the same page and

love your mission. And this is how we met as well. Right? You,

you message to book and I'm excited for you. And now we're

creating this beautiful podcast episode together. And this is

how it all works. And it's it's beautiful. It's gorgeous.

Yeah, connecting. Yeah, like social, connecting through

social media.

You know, especially when it comes to a book is so important.

And I thought

I thought for years how am I going to write this book because

no one's going to write the story for me other than me

because no one can understand it other than me.

And I know I was in college and

I went to college a couple of times and the reason I say that

is because

cerebral palsy for people that don't know it can wear you will

pretty quick if you don't walk with any aids and like you said,

I'm Italian so I'm stubborn.

And my fiance was walking

that's fine.

So

you

So a lot of people don't realize this, that when you have CPE,

and you're not walking with AIDS, and I realized is a lot

later

that your body breaks down a lot faster.

It says if like you're competitive

your competitive figure in sports, the only way I equate it

is, I'm not a professional wrestler, but I think my body

treated me as though I was one. So I constantly got burnt out.

Because I was like treating my body like it was a runaway

train, I couldn't get enough food, couldn't get enough

calories, couldn't get enough proteins. And it felt that

sometimes my body was like a running Ferrari.

And I just,

so I constantly got rundown. And then I developed

a sense of gait, we need to slow this down, you need to go part

time, because your body could not take it. I know you act

pretty tough. But like, you have to understand and listen to your

body at points, like you cannot run with the crowd. So

just stop it like, slow down.

And at that point, like I felt in college that I needed to run,

run run, I was always running to class, because I was always

late. And

I don't know how it's possible, because I had a walker with me

sometimes. And other times I wouldn't. And then other times,

I would just run on through or have someone else carry my

books. And but sometimes, like I was always late, I don't know

how that's possible. Like I had. Like I said, I had a walker. So

I had four wheels. And I had two feet. So I don't I don't know

why I was late all the time. But I was.

But then I developed and I understand why I was late

because of the distance that it took me to get from one area of

school to the other.

The book wouldn't have been possible. If it wasn't for

2007

I had read a book called The lion's tail around the world

spandex.

And at that point, like I had wanted to get into the sports

field, notably at that time professional wrestling. So I had

I had known that I needed to study my stuff and know my

stuff. But before I ended up doing that, I wanted to read

books, so that I understood so that I understood the sport of

professional wrestling.

So that people wouldn't, you know, say, Oh, you don't belong

here. You don't know this. You don't know that. So I took it

upon myself. And I challenged myself.

And I bought one wrestling book every month for like two years.

And I read every wrestling book there was

a got to the point where my brother and my cousins are like,

they're nuts. That's like five grand of information just blown

down the toys. Oh, no, I'm going to become the greatest writer

that ever lived in sports. And I was so I was so determined. And

I have determination now but in a different way. But like

I think it was the the fall of 2007 that I ended up picking up

the book, a lion's tail around the world spandex.

And it was a book by Chris Jericho. And for the life of me.

I can't remember any physical matches that he was ever in like

he was a professional wrestling. And

the stories about is his life. I can't remember anything about

the book except one thing.

So he talked about an injury his mother sustained while being in

an altercation with her boyfriend at the time. And she

sustained a spinal cord injury.

She sustained a spinal cord injury that left her paralyzed.

And when I read the book, and I read that chapter that stuck out

to me,

because I said, Now here's a crummy situation. And

that's got to be awful to write about. But like I've been

looking at my situation like

How, how was my situation and hurt situation parallel to

parallel to each other. And I'm like, Well, if Chris can write

about that,

no one else is going to write my story. So I better get off my

butt, and get in the gym. But I better do it in a way that

is safe for me. So I started working with the spinal cord

coach, to

build up my quadriceps and my arm muscles and stuff like that.

And like, even the stretching is important to me. Stretching is

so important to me.

But I began to understand

that that book was probably

one of the books that I remember.

I remember not being able to put it down.

It got so I got so deep into it. Like I would come to the supper

table, and I would carry the book with me. And I would I

would eat, and I would, I would read, and my mom for the life

recently put the book down. I said,

this books about my life.

And my mom's like, what do you read? I said, What's the moat

arrested, stack all that stupid wrestling again.

So

I came to a realization that I needed to write

the book, my way.

But as long as I tried to write it, it never felt complete.

Never felt it. I tried for a row, 10 years to write it, and

sit down, actually go through it and go through it. It never ever

felt complete. And then when I got the hernia surgery

in January of 2021,

the nurses has to have told me, they were looking after me at

the time, they said, You're You're a young guy, you've been

through a lot of garbage. Have you ever thought about writing

the book.

And without a, without a blink of an eye, I said, Well, if I

write a book, you are gonna get the first copy, because you guys

saved my life.

And so

it's after the, the hip surgeries that I had.

I was placed in a long term care unit while I wait for this hip

replacement. And I was brought here on July of 2021. And like,

I formulated the book, chapter by chapter, and I sat down in a

row. Okay, what, what are the chapters is going to look like?

What are my experiences?

Is it worth writing?

Yes.

And by December, like I finished the book, and then I went

looking for the publisher, and

the rest is history. But I ended up top, I ended up talking a lot

about like the influence of versus book, a lion's tail

around the world spandex a lot in the book itself. And I thank

him for the inspiration behind the ability to write the book

because, like, yeah, I wanted to write it.

But I needed a good kick in the pants to do so. And so even

though it took me 10 years, and I realized now why it took me 10

years, it's because the book wasn't finished, because I

hadn't done I wasn't done experiencing all that needed to

be experienced. And I knew that after the hernia surgery, and

the hip surgery, I knew that I would have enough material to

finish the book. And then I would have no problem writing

it. I just had to get off to a quiet place. And then I

realized, hey, when I was in long term bear, there's nothing

to do. So all you're doing is just typing. I know some of the

residents here when I got here. There's they said, We can hear

you typing through the walls.

And

I said, Well, yeah, I'm writing the book and then

They staff hear that you're writing a book. How old are you?

I'm like, I'm 36.

And then there's they said, What are you writing in your book

about? I said aloud to my challenges with CP. And what

I've been inspired fun. What inspired by and influenced by

all the things that I've experienced? They said, why

don't we want to read it? I said, Well, I got to be written

first. And

so the generalities of the book, like it must have gone through,

I think three or four different trials of does this work, just

this work? Is that work? Can Can we include this in the book and

we included that in the book? So originally,

it had about 50 chapters. And then I'm like, no, this doesn't

work. You know, I don't want to write about this. Because this

is very small. I don't want to write about that. Because then

you drag on or drag on, and I don't want to lose readership.

Right. So then went from 50 to 23 chapters. And, you know, I, I

read through it five or six times. And, you know, I don't

want to toot my own horn. But this seems like a good quality

book to me that I can actually send it to a publisher, a

publisher would say, hey, it's a good book. Nice job.

And so the rest is history.

I find it so beautiful, how you describe that.

You wanted to finish that book earlier. But for some reason, it

didn't feel as if it was finished, and you took the time

and all the experiences, and then finish the book. And now

looking back, you realize, yeah, this is what it took, you can

just start a book and finish it. I mean, probably some people can

do that in a couple months. But if you really want, like, if you

feel it's not finished, then you have to listen to that intuition

and trust, that there's still proce progress happening, even

though it doesn't really feel like it. Yeah, you're you're

living, you're living in the moment, you're experiencing

things that you think have nothing to do with the book. But

then one day, Soon, it will all fall into place and, and create

this beautiful piece of art. And one day, you might turn it into

a movie maybe.

I don't know, a

lot of extra work. That doesn't matter. But you know, what I

would love to see when we publish this book is that there

is pictures in there, from a picture of your dad a picture of

your mom, and to see faces to the characters that you describe

so nicely.

Because you, you write so vividly, and maybe it's just me,

I just started to create pictures in my mind. And

sometimes you're like, oh, no, that person looks totally

different than I thought. Yeah.

But this is so beautiful. Anthony, thank you so much for,

for sharing all this with us. And I would like to ask you one

last question. If sure if there is listeners right now who who

listen to you. And they feel like they have a talent. But

they might be stuck in a situation where they can't

really pursue their talent.

What would you what would you recommend? What would you

give them as an inspiration to still explore the talent even

though the time might not be right?

I would say just be patient. If they realized talents there, but

they realize the timing is off. I would just say keep the

talent, but be patient but continue to work, work at the

talent itself. Maybe not let it out entirely.

I would say this.

If you're a baseball player,

and you realize you have a talent for baseball, but say the

field is sold and you can't play

but it's so important for

the baseball player to

Got to keep practicing in like any weather.

Like, if it's raining, put on a raincoat or a tarp, and just get

out there

and throw the ball around.

Because the timing isn't always going to be perfect.

And so I realized that

when I came to long term care, even though it's very

uncomfortable for me to be here, it's uncomfortable for me to be

here, because I'm only 36. And I'm dealing with people that are

on their way out in life. And I'm just starting my life.

So I realize I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum, from a lot

of these other people.

And so the staff here realize that they see that, and they

understand how difficult and challenging it is. And that's

why I continue to read and continue to

listen to music will continue to motivate myself to just keep

going. Because, for me, this is just a waiting, like just a

waiting room to get to get a hip. It's not a permanent

fixture. And so I realized in the process of writing this

book,

The timing was never right, to actually write the book in the

timing that I want it.

Because I do experience some things. Like even though I've

been in the hospital for about eight months, you would think

you get a lot of downtime in the hospital, but you really don't.

Because

promotions that hurt new stuff.

I was on my back

then dealing with internal injuries, and then I was dealing

with,

you know, bow stuff. And

so I realized at that point, like, writing book wasn't my

first bird. Yeah. So So I realized when I went to rehab,

that,

okay, if I can get into a nice quiet place.

And I don't have anything to do.

For the next three months, I can do this. All I would need

is my computer.

I need to keep my medical notes.

And they need to keep a journal of everything going on.

So while I was in rehab, I asked to take photos. So I can put it

in the book. And they're like what book? I said, Well, I'm

going to write a book after this is all done.

There. So are you serious? I said, Yes. I'm going to write a

book about this whole experience. So you better be

nice to Nero put some bad stuff in the bug.

And so I realized that, at the time, coming to London there

physically and emotionally was very uncomfortable for me.

But it became the perfect situation where it could just

slow down. Stay quiet, and just right.

Not so crazy interesting.

And I love how you see your situation now as temporary. I

thought right away of Nelson Mandela, right. He was in prison

for 27 years. And he knew one day he's going to be out there

and

you know, live a normal life again. And maybe you feel the

same you feel imprisoned right now. But you're doing the very

best out of it. And you're you're even creating something

for all of us to enjoy.

later on. So yeah, thank you so much for sharing all this with

us. And I hope we stay connected.

And absolutely, yeah, it was a great pleasure to have you here,

Anthony.

Thanks for

Well, thank you so much for listening to today's episode. I

hope we were able to give you inspiration for your life. It is

so worth to fight for your dreams to never give up. And

what I love about Anthony so much is that he doesn't make his

cerebral policy, an excuse to not show up for himself. He's a

fighter and a deep inspiration for so many out there. Thank you

so much.

For listening, thank you so much for supporting. If you haven't

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contact information into the show notes. Alright, take care.

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