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Matt Edmundson: Welcome to this
week's Crowd Church service.

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And now the moment you've
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Our online church
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gOod evening and welcome
to Crowd Online Church.

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My name is Matt Edmundson and beside me.

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It's the beautiful, the talented, the
all round good egg, which is Ellie Light.

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Ellie, how are we doing?

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Yeah, really

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Ellie Light: well.

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Thank you.

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Slightly nervous about this
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Matt Edmundson: Already was slightly
nervous about microphone placement.

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We've just been chatting.

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This is if you're new to Crowd Church,
warm welcome to you, by the way.

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Ellie is you've been a speaker
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never actually hosted before.

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That's correct.

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Correct.

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Ellie Light: Are you nervous?

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Yeah.

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Matt Edmundson: A little bit.

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A little bit.

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Yes.

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Welcome Ellie to Crowd Church.

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Thank you for hosting.

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Pleasure to be here.

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I'm excited.

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Ellie's first time hosting.

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Say hi to Ellie in the comments.

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Do come and join us in the comments.

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Evening Andy, Evening Matt,
how are we all doing tonight?

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I can see the comments coming in.

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And tell me what you think to my
new Christmas jumper, by the way.

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Ellie Light: it's wonderful.

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Do I tell you or do they tell you?

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Matt Edmundson: Both!

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They're gonna comment about it.

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Evening Nicola.

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Yeah, they're gonna, they're
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But the, this is such a cool,
my Star Wars Christmas jumper.

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I'm so excited with this.

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I've only got one

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Ellie Light: Christmas jumper, really?

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Yeah, it's just got a snowman on it.

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Matt Edmundson: You don't do the Christmas

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Ellie Light: Jumper thing?

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No, it has got a carrot
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Matt Edmundson: it's his nose, okay, cool.

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Yeah, fair play.

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Just the one.

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Just the one.

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Every year we have a
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I don't know about you guys.

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In fact, if you're in the comments, tell
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I'd be really curious to know.

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But we have this tradition whereby
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every December, which was yesterday,
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we walked down as a family to the
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So we walked from my house
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is a park here in Liverpool.

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And we go choose the tree.

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And we all make sure that we're happy
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tree out and then we walk back to the
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they deliver the tree and we decorate
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Yeah, I'm too lazy for that,
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anD yeah we did our Christmas
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And I'm wearing Christmas jumpers
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Ellie Light: Do you want Christmas do.

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What is yours?

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So in our family my dad's not really
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Like a settee?

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Yeah, just like excessive
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So we go out on Christmas Eve and we
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for about three quid, because who buys
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Then we decorate it, and that's it,
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days, really, yeah, oh wow, depressing

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Matt Edmundson: yeah, sorry Ellie's
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levels, oh dear, that's wrong on
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went up this This weekend as well.

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It's the time to do it really.

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We did this thing where actually yesterday
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for us going to get in the tree, right?

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And we because our family in theory
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adopted more and more people and had
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us, have become part of the family.

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They've subsequently left, got married.

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And so there was like 16 of us going to
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There was a lot of people including
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She just sent me a text
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I'm going to get a Christmas tree.

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So Sadaf and the family came down.

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So 17 of us just wandered
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The guy at the Christmas tree shop
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of the Edmo family coming down, , or
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And , we all then went back to the
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spent four or five hours cooking.

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We did, some really nice food.

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And so yeah, we by the end of last
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I was like so we first, I
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Don't do Christmas
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And like some people like
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She does Christmas
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I'm like, there's just no way.

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So Will's put here in the
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he's talking to you Ellie.

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Your dad sounds like mine.

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We went out with a saw and found
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Ellie Light: Brilliant.

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Yeah, thankfully we do actually
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And it's so cheap then as well.

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That's the thing that's amazing about it.

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You're getting one, like a
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three days, it's a pound a day.

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But that's how much it costs for a
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Ellie Light: I'm not paying for it.

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Matt Edmundson: But you have,
we're going to get into the talk

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in a minute, ladies and gentlemen.

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We will move on.

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Don't panic.

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But you have got a new house.

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I have.

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I say now.

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I've been there about a year now.

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And have you got the tree

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Ellie Light: up?

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No, I don't.

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I'm actually, I've put some
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And that's it.

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That's

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Matt Edmundson: as far
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That's as far as I've got.

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Now you're in control of your own
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Are you going to follow your dad's,
I get a tree on Christmas Eve thing?

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I'm going to

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Ellie Light: go home for Christmas no.

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Matt Edmundson: Wow, okay, fair enough.

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Matt Crew says he doesn't do
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Why does that not surprise me, Matt?

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Nicola, the force is strong with this one.

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Yes.

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Talking about my jumper.

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Oh, very good.

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Very good.

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So yeah, Christmas.

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Merry Christmas to you.

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Warm welcome to you.

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If you just joined us, like
I say, my name is Matt.

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This is Ellie and we are Crowd Online
Church talking about Christmas.

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Cause Christmas is a big
thing for the church.

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We do like Christmas.

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We do have a Christmas service
this year, so stay tuned.

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We'll give you more
information about that later.

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But for now we are going to carry on with
our conversation through the book of Acts.

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We have the beautiful.

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Anna Kettle: Anna

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Ellie Light: Kettle.

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I read that off a piece
of paper, obviously.

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Matt Edmundson: It's just like we did
in rehearsals, ladies and gentlemen.

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We've got Anna Kettle talking
to us about the Book of Acts.

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This week it's The Correct Talk.

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Matt, I saw you put that
in the comments earlier.

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We are going to do The Correct Talk today.

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God bless the guys last week, that
was a little bit of a mess up.

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I say mess up.

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It was just, it was a beautiful
accident is what it was Dan

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and John they had a great time.

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I was in Paris, so I was just grateful
they were doing it if I'm honest with you.

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Had a weekend away celebrating 25 years.

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Oh, that's nice, isn't it?

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Yeah, 25th anniversary, me
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So we had a great time in Paris.

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Great stuff.

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So all that said, I am gonna
push this button on the pad.

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We're gonna have Anna on the talk,
then Ellie and I will be back

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after this for Conversation Street.

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Get busy writing your comments,
questions, thoughts, stories, and all

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that sort of stuff in the comments.

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We'll be back soon.

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Here's Anna.

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Anna Kettle: Hi there.

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So today I'm talking about
Paul's journey to Jerusalem.

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You can read all about this
story in Acts chapter 21.

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So we're continuing our series looking
at the book of Acts today and passage on.

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Looking at, and have been asked to
speak on, is Acts 21, verse 1, 3 to 36.

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Now that's quite a long passage, so I'm
not going to read it all here right now.

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Instead, I'm going to just summarize the
narrative, what happens in that passage

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to give us a little bit of context for
this talk, and then suggest that maybe

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you can go away and look at it in your
own time and read it in more detail.

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So basically, just to take us to the
beginning of the chapter then, so Paul

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is planning to go to Jerusalem to share
the good news, to encourage the believers

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there, and also share the good news
with those that aren't believers yet.

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And the first part of this chapter just
follows his journey as he travels through

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the Greek Isles through courts and raids,
then he goes down past Cyprus on a boat.

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And then onto the mainland in the Middle
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then down into Lebanon, below it, and
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which is his ultimate destination.

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However, this journey that he's
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No longer he receives a number of warnings
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going to be arrested there and that it's
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Now, the first time this happens
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when he lands in Tyre, which is in
Lebanon, and the Christians there are

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warning him not to go to Jerusalem.

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They say that the Holy Spirit have taught
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and so they're warning him not to go.

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And yet, as much as he hears their
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says, no, I'm going to go to Jerusalem.

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This is what God's told me to do.

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I'm going to go.

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And then later on in this journey,
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Israel and towards Jerusalem, he's
getting placed to his destination.

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He's traveling through an area called
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And as he's travelling through
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from a prophet called Achebes.

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Now, Achebes, again, has very
clearly heard a word from God.

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He's had a prophecy and he goes
to tell Paul when he's staying

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with Philip the Evangelist.

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He says that the Jewish leaders in
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him and hand him over to the
Gentiles when he arrives there.

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Then so again, the Christians
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The follow Jesus there in that area hear
this and they peed where they're not go.

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They're understandably concerned for his
safety and worried that he's gonna be

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arrested or that horn won't come to him.

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That he could even be chilled if he's
arrested when he gets to Jerusalem.

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So they're saying, don't
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He says this, he says, Why are
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I am ready not only to be bound,
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for the name of the Lord Jesus.

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Wow, that is quite a
severe answer, isn't it?

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It's quite intentional, there's
nothing that is going to move him or

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dissuade him from going to Jerusalem.

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He's like very single minded about going
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And finally the Christians there realize,
and so they give up, they realize they

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can't stand in his way, that he's going
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go and that he has to be obedient to that.

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And in the end they resolve saying,
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And of course, Paul continues on his
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And of course, when he does,
sure enough, false accusations

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are thrown at him by the local
religious leaders there in Jerusalem.

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Now, that's the kind of
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I don't know about you, but I find
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It's weird, isn't it?

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That Paul feels that God has told him to
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And so he's got this clear word from God.

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And yet, along his journey, the Holy
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for the danger ahead in his journey.

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And then he still goes straight
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It leaves me feeling what's
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What is this passage trying to tell us?

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On the one hand, is Paul being disobedient
to God by ignoring all of these

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warnings and going into, the danger?

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Is he being silly?

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I'm not sure I would have gone if I'd
received so many warnings about being

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arrested and possibly a threat in my life.

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Is he being disobedient to God?

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Is he ignoring the warnings
of the Holy Spirit?

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But then equally, is God
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Because he's already told
Paul to go, and Paul feels so

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confident that he should be going.

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So then why is the Holy Spirit
seeming to contradict what

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God has already said to him?

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It doesn't make any sense to me.

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Paul feels very strongly that God's told
him to get in there and he's acting on

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that conviction but now he's getting
all these warnings, danger ahead.

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I Guess there's three simple points
that I want to pull out of this

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passage which might just help us
with some of our understanding of it.

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The first one is this, it's that God
always prepares us for what he asks of us.

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I'll say that again, God always
prepares us for what he asks of us.

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So just going back to that
question about why God sent those

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warnings to Paul and he still went.

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Personally, I think that those
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intended to prepare Paul, but not
necessarily to stop him from going.

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And I think there's a
difference, isn't there?

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That they're about preparing his heart,
about getting him ready for what lies

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ahead, for the challenges that lie ahead
in the road ahead of him on this journey.

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That's not, being warned about what lies
ahead doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong

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for him to go, or that he shouldn't go,
that the other Christians around him were

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saying, don't go, but that's their inhuman
projections and their own anxieties,

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that them talking about their own fears,
that's not necessarily what God's saying.

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And so these warnings aren't
necessarily a warning not to go, but

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just a warning about what lies ahead.

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And they helped him to be
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what God was calling him into.

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And yet, I wonder how often we make a
similar mistake where, when hardship

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comes, we're too quick to give up.

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I Wonder sometimes when things get hard
in our own journeys of faith, or when we

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meet resistance or hit difficulties along
the way that we suddenly start to question

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whether, was that really God's will?

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That questions that.

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Was it really what God wants of us?

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Is it still really what God wants of us?

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Are we still on the right path?

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Have we heard God right?

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And we're so quick to question
and to doubt what God's asked

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of us when difficulty comes.

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But sometimes those difficulties don't
mean that we're on the wrong path

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or that we're not hearing God right.

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It just means that path is hard.

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Difficulties don't mean that
you're on the wrong path.

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Often they mean that
you're on the right path.

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And that is just a difficult
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And that brings me on to my second point,
which is that Paul was so willing to take

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risks and endure hardship for his faith.

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He was so willing to
go through difficulty.

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He was warned of incredible hardship
ahead, that he'd be arrested and

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imprisoned, and that he could potentially
even die or be putting his life at risk.

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And yet he didn't seem to hesitate in
any way, even though others around him.

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We're really anxious and
telling him not to go.

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He didn't hesitate because he knew
what God had told him and he didn't

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doubt it and he didn't waver on it.

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Now, I'm not suggesting that those similar
kinds of troubles are probably going to

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face many of us in our own walks of faith.

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At least not here in the UK.

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I know that some Christians elsewhere in
the world right now can sometimes face

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persecution, arrest, imprisonment, maybe
even death for their faith, but that's

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not common, certainly not here in the UK.

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And so Yeah, but at the same time,
it makes me think there are other

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risks that we're asked to take for
our faith sometimes, aren't they?

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Even very small ones, and I
wonder how willing we are we

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willing like Paul to not hesitate?

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Do we actually hesitate when
those small difficulties come?

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Do we hesitate when we're worried
about feeling a bit embarrassed about

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talking about our faith to people
that don't share it or understand it?

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Are we potentially worried about sounding
a bit weird or about having our attentions

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misunderstood or misinterpreted when we
share about our experiences with God?

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There's so many different levels of risk
and different types of hardship that we

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can be asked to endure for our faith.

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I don't think many of us have
had to endure to the point of

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arrest or imprisonment or death.

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And the third part that I wanted to
just pull out of this passage was that

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enduring hardship is actually part
of what it means to follow Christ.

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I know this isn't a particularly
popular message, particularly in all

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Western churches where we're quite
used to being quite comfortable in

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our faith, but actually when you read
about the early church here in the

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book of Acts, you just can't get away
from the truth that following Jesus

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isn't always easy or comfortable.

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thE word Christian.

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Literally means Follower of Christ I
am, Christ Follower, and yeah, I wonder

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how many of us who call ourselves
Christians, who say that we believe

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in and follow Jesus, aren't actually
that willing to follow him into

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difficult things, into hardships, into
discomfort, into putting others before

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ourselves, um, into Making ourselves
uncomfortable through our faith and, I

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count myself in this challenge as well.

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I find this stuff hard.

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I actually see some real parallels
in this story about Paul troubling

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towards Jerusalem and knowing
that there's hardship ahead of his

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journey and also the story of Jesus
before his arrest and crucifixion.

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In the Gospels, before Jesus was
arrested in the Garden of Gethsemane

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and ultimately faced a horrific death
in the cross, there's at least three

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times in the Gospel accounts of his
life where he predicts his own death

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to his disciples and his followers.

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And there's possibly other more subtle
references that he knew what was coming

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too, but there's certainly at least
three occasions in the Gospel accounts

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where Jesus Makes it clear that he
knows what's coming, he knows what's

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ahead in his own journey as well.

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He knows that a cross is coming
and that he'll be arrested.

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Yeah, it's challenging, isn't it?

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And just like Paul, Jesus didn't shy
away from that difficult road ahead.

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When he faced imminent death, these were
some of the final words that he spoke.

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He said, Father, if you are willing to
take this cup away from me, and yet not

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my will, but your will be done, you can
read that passage in Luke 22 verse 42.

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And it strikes me that's not
that different Paul's response

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here in, in the Book of Acts.

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iS it?

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He's, The conclusion here
is the Lord's will be done.

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That was the conclusion that the disciples
came to when he refused to change course

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or to stop in his journey, to not carry
his journey on into difficult things.

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And it leaves me feeling that
challenge of, I wonder how many of us

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are willing, toss that, say the same
kind of thing when things get hard

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in journey of faith with challenges
coming our lives when God asks us to do

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something and then to go and gets tough.

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How many of us can say a similar thing,
not my will Lord for yours be done.

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As I said, not many of us are going to
be asked to, lay down our lives for our

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faith, at least not in this country, or
threatened with arrest and imprisonment.

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But, there are other things that
we may have to surrender to God.

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How many of our comforts are right?

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Are we willing to part with our cash
when Jesus asks us to give someone

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a wage someone who needs something?

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Or to part with our material things?

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Or to give up our time when Jesus asks
us to serve someone who needs something?

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Are we willing to give a poll
right to a certain kind of

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lifestyle or quality of life?

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Are we willing to put relationships or
family or career or other things second

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to what Jesus is calling us to do?

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iT's, there's one example that
I've got from my life in the

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last couple of years where.

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I had an opportunity to take a promotion
at work, and this promotion would

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have meant quite a significant amount
more money, and I would be paid quite

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a bit more, and a lot of colleagues
were saying you should go for it,

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you'll totally get it if you go for
this, you can do this job, it's almost

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certainly yours if you go for this role.

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At the same time, it's quite a lot more
responsibility and time commitment too.

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And, I prayed about it and thought
about it for a number of days and

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I just didn't really feel any peace
in myself about going for this role.

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And it was because I felt like the
role was going to take me away from

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some of the other things that God was
calling me to do in my spare time.

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It was going to take me away from
being spending enough time with

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my family, but also from different
ways that I was serving him.

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Even doing things like this, like
doing talks for Crowd Church,

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or podcasting, or writing.

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Other things that I, ways that I feel
like God's asked me to serve them.

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And I didn't go for the role.

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And it, that might not be the area
of challenge for everyone right now.

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It may not be that God's asking you
to put your career second to you.

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They're following him.

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I wonder if there are any other areas
of your life where Jesus is asking you

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to take a risk, or maybe to count the
cost by choosing obedience to him over

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your own comfort or unusual preferences.

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thEre's loads of different
areas where this can apply.

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And it might be a very different
challenge that is coming up in your life,

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but as I said, just because something
that seems difficult doesn't mean

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it's the right or wrong thing to do.

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Something that God has called
you to do something, he'll give

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you the tools to go through it.

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And I can say that, or say,
It may not be an easy decision

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always to be obedient to God.

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In all the years that I've been a
Christian, I've never once regretted

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doing what God has asked me to do,
even when it feels challenging or hard

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at the time to make that decision.

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So I just want to leave us with
that thought today, really.

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Perhaps just ask you to take
a moment to reflect on that.

462
00:24:17,471 --> 00:24:21,121
So reflect on the cost of following
Jesus in your life right now.

463
00:24:21,866 --> 00:24:26,376
And as you do that, I just also want
to finish with a short prayer, and I'm

464
00:24:26,376 --> 00:24:28,246
going to pray for us all if that's okay.

465
00:24:30,266 --> 00:24:34,756
So Lord, we're so sorry that we can
be slow to do what you're asking

466
00:24:34,766 --> 00:24:37,256
of us sometimes, or reluctant.

467
00:24:38,586 --> 00:24:42,796
Sometimes we don't want to be
inconvenienced, or to have our

468
00:24:42,826 --> 00:24:46,326
comfortable lives disrupted, or
to really have to count the cost.

469
00:24:47,266 --> 00:24:48,596
And in these times.

470
00:24:49,296 --> 00:24:52,446
I just ask that you'd help us to
remember how much you have given up for

471
00:24:52,446 --> 00:24:55,246
us and how you paid the ultimate cost.

472
00:24:55,676 --> 00:24:59,656
Because you're an innocent man who died
on the cross as a sacrifice for us.

473
00:25:00,786 --> 00:25:03,696
You went and you did
all that in our place.

474
00:25:03,696 --> 00:25:08,766
And so I pray that in response to that you
would help us to say in every situation

475
00:25:08,766 --> 00:25:14,136
that we come across, just as Jesus did and
as so many other Christians have done too,

476
00:25:14,136 --> 00:25:20,301
Lord, I'm finding it hard to say yes to
what you're asking of me right now, today.

477
00:25:21,691 --> 00:25:24,391
Yet, not my will, but your will be done.

478
00:25:26,021 --> 00:25:26,881
In Jesus name,

479
00:25:27,511 --> 00:25:27,901
Matt Edmundson: Amen.

480
00:25:31,901 --> 00:25:32,471
Amen.

481
00:25:32,681 --> 00:25:33,521
Amen to that.

482
00:25:33,611 --> 00:25:35,641
Oh, great talk by Anna.

483
00:25:35,911 --> 00:25:36,481
I love that.

484
00:25:36,481 --> 00:25:37,271
We're going to get into that.

485
00:25:37,271 --> 00:25:40,291
We're going to get into this
whole thing that Anna was, jeez,

486
00:25:40,291 --> 00:25:41,281
what a lot to get into there.

487
00:25:41,781 --> 00:25:43,031
So we're going to get into all that.

488
00:25:43,031 --> 00:25:46,501
Make sure you write your questions,
comments, thoughts in the comments below.

489
00:25:47,111 --> 00:25:50,211
And we will get to those as well.

490
00:25:51,101 --> 00:25:52,001
What a great talk though, Anna.

491
00:25:52,151 --> 00:25:52,631
Loved it.

492
00:25:52,791 --> 00:25:53,141
Loved it.

493
00:25:53,141 --> 00:25:53,451
Loved it.

494
00:25:53,461 --> 00:25:53,781
Thank you.

495
00:25:54,211 --> 00:25:54,511
Yeah.

496
00:25:54,731 --> 00:25:55,391
What did you like about it?

497
00:25:55,401 --> 00:25:56,721
I'd say is maybe the wrong word.

498
00:25:57,171 --> 00:25:59,751
What was the key point do you think
that stood out to you in that talk?

499
00:26:01,136 --> 00:26:03,966
Ellie Light: I'm not sure necessarily
a key point, but I think what was

500
00:26:03,966 --> 00:26:07,496
really, I found really powerful
about it was just the honesty of it.

501
00:26:07,516 --> 00:26:12,766
I think talking about the hard
things in faith is really important.

502
00:26:12,766 --> 00:26:14,456
I'm not necessarily sure we do it enough.

503
00:26:14,866 --> 00:26:18,476
I think it's very easy to walk into
Christianity and think, Oh, great.

504
00:26:18,486 --> 00:26:19,276
This is brilliant.

505
00:26:19,296 --> 00:26:21,426
Everyone says how wonderful
it is and now everything's

506
00:26:21,426 --> 00:26:22,496
going to be better afterwards.

507
00:26:22,926 --> 00:26:26,661
After I've met Jesus and all of
this, but actually,  wE still

508
00:26:26,661 --> 00:26:27,891
face really difficult things.

509
00:26:28,901 --> 00:26:30,281
The answer is that he's with us in them.

510
00:26:30,331 --> 00:26:33,351
Not that they disappear or and
particularly on this, that it's

511
00:26:33,351 --> 00:26:36,241
so challenging that God's then
asking to actually go into a

512
00:26:36,241 --> 00:26:38,751
physically dangerous situation.

513
00:26:38,961 --> 00:26:40,951
Ooh, I'd find that hard.

514
00:26:43,271 --> 00:26:44,641
Matt Edmundson: God's not
asked you to do that recently.

515
00:26:44,641 --> 00:26:45,131
I take it.

516
00:26:45,191 --> 00:26:45,691
No, not

517
00:26:45,951 --> 00:26:46,471
Ellie Light: recently.

518
00:26:46,471 --> 00:26:46,761
No.

519
00:26:49,011 --> 00:26:50,091
Matt Edmundson: It's yeah, no, not at all.

520
00:26:51,581 --> 00:26:52,231
iT's interesting.

521
00:26:53,331 --> 00:26:54,421
Yeah it's funny, isn't it?

522
00:26:54,471 --> 00:26:55,481
This constant conversation.

523
00:26:55,531 --> 00:26:57,681
We've been working our way
through the book of Acts, right?

524
00:26:58,756 --> 00:27:01,286
And one of the things that has come
up consistently in the Book of Acts

525
00:27:01,286 --> 00:27:05,586
and we've brought it up a number of
times on the live stream, is this

526
00:27:05,716 --> 00:27:09,956
idea that you cannot read the Book
of Acts and go, yeah, Christianity is

527
00:27:09,966 --> 00:27:11,796
sunshine, rainbows and unicorns, right?

528
00:27:11,796 --> 00:27:12,426
It just isn't.

529
00:27:12,976 --> 00:27:21,316
But what you can do is say that
Christianity is a God who is with you.

530
00:27:21,396 --> 00:27:24,796
And actually, the path that
you go is not always easy.

531
00:27:27,031 --> 00:27:29,441
But he is always with you on it, right?

532
00:27:29,691 --> 00:27:34,386
And I think this is brought out again
in this This portion of scripture.

533
00:27:34,646 --> 00:27:37,236
What's interesting to me about what you
said and about what we read in the book

534
00:27:37,236 --> 00:27:40,026
of Acts is the reason for the hardship.

535
00:27:41,396 --> 00:27:42,086
If that makes sense.

536
00:27:42,726 --> 00:27:46,606
So sometimes we go through hardships
or difficulties because let's be frank.

537
00:27:46,966 --> 00:27:47,686
We were stupid.

538
00:27:49,046 --> 00:27:50,096
Yeah, do you know what I mean?

539
00:27:50,376 --> 00:27:51,696
We made some rather.

540
00:27:52,236 --> 00:27:54,846
Rather strange decisions along the way.

541
00:27:55,296 --> 00:27:58,506
A classic one for me is I
don't, you can see, part of my

542
00:27:58,506 --> 00:27:59,936
right index finger is missing.

543
00:28:00,456 --> 00:28:04,346
And so that was not a pleasant time.

544
00:28:04,716 --> 00:28:07,806
When I had my accident, I cut
through three of my fingers.

545
00:28:08,436 --> 00:28:13,206
My youngest son, my middle child,
Zach was like weeks old, weeks old.

546
00:28:14,146 --> 00:28:14,956
Maybe days old.

547
00:28:14,966 --> 00:28:16,006
He was super young.

548
00:28:16,536 --> 00:28:18,306
And I made a stupid mistake.

549
00:28:18,366 --> 00:28:20,076
I took the safety guard off a saw.

550
00:28:20,316 --> 00:28:20,846
Oh,

551
00:28:21,206 --> 00:28:22,096
Ellie Light: never do that.

552
00:28:22,096 --> 00:28:27,386
Matt Edmundson: Where
were you 20 years ago?

553
00:28:27,386 --> 00:28:32,696
But it was something
that I had to go through.

554
00:28:33,356 --> 00:28:36,036
And I cannot in all of
those circumstances go.

555
00:28:36,866 --> 00:28:37,336
It was.

556
00:28:37,971 --> 00:28:40,801
It was something that God
wanted for my life, right?

557
00:28:41,311 --> 00:28:43,991
And it was a mistake that I made.

558
00:28:43,991 --> 00:28:46,301
It was a stupid decision
that I made that cost me.

559
00:28:46,391 --> 00:28:46,711
Yeah.

560
00:28:46,761 --> 00:28:48,381
And that resulted in hardship.

561
00:28:48,391 --> 00:28:48,941
Does that make sense?

562
00:28:49,511 --> 00:28:51,731
In more ways than one, in a
lot of ways, it's affected us.

563
00:28:51,731 --> 00:28:54,691
And in ways that, we've we've learned
to live with it, but I'm always

564
00:28:54,691 --> 00:28:59,631
reminded that actually There were
enough warnings from God never to take

565
00:28:59,631 --> 00:29:02,711
the safety guard off the saw you don't
even need God to warn you to do that

566
00:29:02,711 --> 00:29:04,930
Ellie Light: Yeah,

567
00:29:04,931 --> 00:29:07,731
Matt Edmundson: there's common
sense yeah, but it turns out

568
00:29:07,731 --> 00:29:10,186
I didn't have any Who knew?

569
00:29:10,516 --> 00:29:14,074
And so Matt's Crew's put in
the comments here, Ellie, this

570
00:29:14,074 --> 00:29:15,716
is Matt's I'm an idiot story.

571
00:29:15,916 --> 00:29:16,306
I'm getting that, yeah.

572
00:29:16,306 --> 00:29:16,586
Yeah.

573
00:29:18,086 --> 00:29:19,106
Nicholas put safety first.

574
00:29:19,106 --> 00:29:19,866
Yeah, thanks guys.

575
00:29:19,886 --> 00:29:20,216
Appreciate it.

576
00:29:20,276 --> 00:29:21,696
Just, give me the heads up now.

577
00:29:22,226 --> 00:29:23,596
But it was, it's fascinating, isn't it?

578
00:29:23,606 --> 00:29:27,666
So we, I think we go through
difficult things in life because

579
00:29:27,666 --> 00:29:29,261
of decisions that we make.

580
00:29:29,261 --> 00:29:32,656
I can tell you, we'd go all
night about the stupid decisions

581
00:29:32,666 --> 00:29:33,786
that Matt's made over his life.

582
00:29:34,086 --> 00:29:34,126
Money.

583
00:29:36,506 --> 00:29:40,916
finances, things with work, that's
cost us a lot of money, making really

584
00:29:40,916 --> 00:29:48,966
silly decisions and you're man alive,
um, but even when it's my fault, God's

585
00:29:48,966 --> 00:29:53,446
still with me in it, if that makes
sense, which is a beautiful thing.

586
00:29:53,446 --> 00:29:58,586
So I think sometimes, in fact, most
of the time, I have faced things

587
00:29:58,866 --> 00:30:03,296
And the hardships that I've come
across, the reason for them is

588
00:30:03,296 --> 00:30:05,446
because I was a bit of a plonker.

589
00:30:06,446 --> 00:30:10,376
That said, in this story and in certain
occasions in my life, I dare say certain

590
00:30:10,376 --> 00:30:15,466
occasions in your life, the reason for
the hardship was because God said go.

591
00:30:16,426 --> 00:30:16,976
Do you know what I mean?

592
00:30:17,586 --> 00:30:21,706
And God's told Paul to go into a
particularly difficult situation.

593
00:30:22,196 --> 00:30:26,541
And I love what Anna said that The
reason it feels, it seems like God is

594
00:30:26,641 --> 00:30:30,711
telling these things to Paul is not
to dissuade him but to prepare him.

595
00:30:30,781 --> 00:30:31,201
Yes.

596
00:30:31,271 --> 00:30:31,761
Do you know what I mean?

597
00:30:31,781 --> 00:30:32,001
Yeah.

598
00:30:32,071 --> 00:30:36,811
Now if it was me, I think Anna
mentioned this in her talk, if it

599
00:30:36,811 --> 00:30:41,981
was me, I would hear those warnings
and I'd be like that's it, I'm out.

600
00:30:43,281 --> 00:30:44,621
This is God telling me not to go.

601
00:30:44,621 --> 00:30:46,361
I would have gone to the
beach maybe or something.

602
00:30:46,361 --> 00:30:46,631
I don't know.

603
00:30:48,201 --> 00:30:50,371
But it's interesting
that Paul didn't, right?

604
00:30:50,391 --> 00:30:55,406
And so there are sometimes there are some
occasions where God deliberately leads

605
00:30:55,406 --> 00:30:59,016
you into places that create hardship.

606
00:30:59,716 --> 00:31:01,236
And that is not an easy theology.

607
00:31:01,246 --> 00:31:06,156
Ellie Light: Yeah, no, I think what I
find particularly helpful about this

608
00:31:06,186 --> 00:31:11,136
and weighing up, I quite often get a
bit overwhelmed at the idea of, is God

609
00:31:11,226 --> 00:31:14,556
telling me to do this or this and getting
quite caught up in like the details of.

610
00:31:14,946 --> 00:31:15,616
Am I hearing from God?

611
00:31:15,616 --> 00:31:16,666
Am I not hearing from God?

612
00:31:16,956 --> 00:31:20,936
And that's usually when I'm like okay,
chill out because God doesn't come

613
00:31:20,936 --> 00:31:22,366
into your life to create confusion.

614
00:31:22,616 --> 00:31:26,866
And what I love about this is for Paul,
he's so sure that all of his mates

615
00:31:26,866 --> 00:31:30,836
that he's meeting along the way telling
him you're going to get hurt and you

616
00:31:30,836 --> 00:31:32,546
might get arrested and you might die.

617
00:31:32,826 --> 00:31:36,666
He is still so sure that he
knows that he's going anyway.

618
00:31:36,766 --> 00:31:36,986
Yeah.

619
00:31:37,016 --> 00:31:39,766
And I find that particularly encouraging
with the whole, how do I know when

620
00:31:39,766 --> 00:31:41,026
God's speaking to me and when he's not?

621
00:31:41,116 --> 00:31:45,776
Yeah, because actually, if he needs me to
know, I'll know, because if Paul can know

622
00:31:45,926 --> 00:31:49,866
and go to it and know that he's walking
into that, and be so sure that's what

623
00:31:49,906 --> 00:31:55,066
he needs to do, because God has told him
in such a way that he is very sure of

624
00:31:55,066 --> 00:31:59,316
that, then I'm sure he can tell me quite
clearly about whether I need to like do

625
00:31:59,316 --> 00:32:01,846
this or do that, do you know what I mean?

626
00:32:02,226 --> 00:32:02,506
Yeah,

627
00:32:02,686 --> 00:32:03,516
Matt Edmundson: absolutely.

628
00:32:03,726 --> 00:32:04,046
Yeah.

629
00:32:04,246 --> 00:32:04,616
Yeah.

630
00:32:04,816 --> 00:32:05,786
So that's what Matt's put here.

631
00:32:05,786 --> 00:32:08,576
In all situations, remember that
God can give you the guidance at all

632
00:32:08,606 --> 00:32:10,016
times, which I think is quite true.

633
00:32:10,496 --> 00:32:11,036
It's interesting.

634
00:32:11,396 --> 00:32:13,136
I don't know if we've come across,
I can't remember where that's in

635
00:32:13,136 --> 00:32:16,026
the book of Acts is because it's all
blurred into one in all the prep.

636
00:32:16,546 --> 00:32:20,306
There's this really interesting part
in the book of Acts where Paul goes on

637
00:32:20,306 --> 00:32:21,926
one of his missionary journeys, right?

638
00:32:24,896 --> 00:32:28,226
Paul is, to give you some sort of
insight into Paul's character, Paul

639
00:32:28,526 --> 00:32:30,226
is, I think he's an action man.

640
00:32:30,236 --> 00:32:31,196
He's a doing guy.

641
00:32:31,526 --> 00:32:32,016
He's right.

642
00:32:32,516 --> 00:32:35,436
What was the last, he's the kind of
guy that would respond to the question,

643
00:32:35,436 --> 00:32:36,836
what was the last thing God said to me?

644
00:32:36,836 --> 00:32:40,106
Let's keep doing that until I feel like
God's told me to do something else.

645
00:32:40,126 --> 00:32:42,106
And so he's very much an action guy.

646
00:32:42,126 --> 00:32:45,936
He's the kind of guy that if you said to
him, if you, if he was alive today, you

647
00:32:45,936 --> 00:32:49,836
put him in a car on one side of Liverpool
city centre and you said Paul you need

648
00:32:49,846 --> 00:32:51,036
to get to the cross the other side.

649
00:32:51,036 --> 00:32:52,146
He's just going to get in a car and go.

650
00:32:52,816 --> 00:32:56,876
he's going to feel his way rather
than just wait for all the traffic

651
00:32:56,886 --> 00:33:00,216
lights to turn green and all of
the ducks lined up and off he goes.

652
00:33:01,086 --> 00:33:03,406
And neither one is right or wrong.

653
00:33:03,786 --> 00:33:06,976
But this is part, this is why I see in
Paul's personality is he's an action guy.

654
00:33:06,986 --> 00:33:07,686
He's a doing guy.

655
00:33:08,636 --> 00:33:10,086
And so he heads off.

656
00:33:10,756 --> 00:33:12,196
On one of his mission trips.

657
00:33:12,736 --> 00:33:15,976
And the way the scripture, but I love
the old the old King James version.

658
00:33:16,366 --> 00:33:16,636
Oh yeah.

659
00:33:16,636 --> 00:33:19,456
The way it talks about this, he said
the Holy Spirit constrained him.

660
00:33:19,996 --> 00:33:20,956
Oh, he was constrained.

661
00:33:21,136 --> 00:33:21,436
Yeah.

662
00:33:21,856 --> 00:33:22,936
And this is Paul.

663
00:33:22,936 --> 00:33:26,696
This is the Apostle Paul, who wrote
two thirds of the New Testament.

664
00:33:27,086 --> 00:33:28,466
He's heading in direction.

665
00:33:28,466 --> 00:33:32,726
It's when he goes that he
feels God constraining him.

666
00:33:32,756 --> 00:33:32,876
Yeah.

667
00:33:33,001 --> 00:33:33,541
In other words.

668
00:33:34,061 --> 00:33:37,631
I don't know if Paul knew or didn't know
whether this was the right thing to do,

669
00:33:37,661 --> 00:33:41,111
but he's an action guy, so I'm just going
to keep going until I'm told otherwise.

670
00:33:42,011 --> 00:33:45,281
And I get that impression in this
story that we read today, that

671
00:33:45,281 --> 00:33:47,431
this is Paul, he's okay, so I'm
going to get changed, so what?

672
00:33:47,691 --> 00:33:49,141
God's told me to go, so I'm going.

673
00:33:50,291 --> 00:33:51,941
Ellie Light: Mad that he
doesn't think that his mates

674
00:33:51,941 --> 00:33:52,721
been like, you're gonna die.

675
00:33:53,871 --> 00:33:56,101
It's God saying, oh, stop.

676
00:33:57,671 --> 00:33:58,641
Matt Edmundson: That's funny, isn't it?

677
00:33:59,311 --> 00:34:01,501
It is funny how we interpret those things.

678
00:34:02,041 --> 00:34:02,371
Yeah.

679
00:34:02,766 --> 00:34:06,236
Yeah, really, because, and this
is what again, that in the story.

680
00:34:06,236 --> 00:34:09,266
So the Christians in the story,
the church in Jerusalem would

681
00:34:09,266 --> 00:34:10,416
like man, you need to not go.

682
00:34:10,536 --> 00:34:11,346
Yeah, yes.

683
00:34:11,346 --> 00:34:11,726
Yeah.

684
00:34:11,886 --> 00:34:12,486
Everyone was going,

685
00:34:12,526 --> 00:34:13,436
Ellie Light: what are you doing?

686
00:34:14,186 --> 00:34:15,766
I find that so challenging.

687
00:34:15,976 --> 00:34:17,286
I find that really challenging.

688
00:34:18,436 --> 00:34:22,321
Matt Edmundson: But again, you come to
being led by God, there's this there

689
00:34:22,321 --> 00:34:27,041
is this very correct teaching in the
church, which says, in the mouth of

690
00:34:27,041 --> 00:34:30,051
two or three witnesses, let a thing
be established, there is safety in a

691
00:34:30,051 --> 00:34:33,531
multitude of counselors, this, all this
stuff when scripture, which talks about,

692
00:34:33,551 --> 00:34:35,851
I'm just trying to scratch my head
around the microphone it's just this

693
00:34:35,881 --> 00:34:38,831
whole thing in scripture about listening
to one another, bearing one another's

694
00:34:38,831 --> 00:34:43,401
burdens, God speaks to you through other
people and here God is speaking, but

695
00:34:43,431 --> 00:34:45,361
Paul had the ability to discern that.

696
00:34:46,166 --> 00:34:54,016
What was preparation versus instruction
and that I find very challenging.

697
00:34:54,076 --> 00:34:54,916
Ellie Light: Yeah, me too.

698
00:34:56,446 --> 00:34:58,416
I also love what was it that he said?

699
00:34:58,636 --> 00:35:00,906
I love how emotional Paul
is like all the time.

700
00:35:01,106 --> 00:35:03,996
But I just think it's really
a nice and encouraging thing.

701
00:35:04,596 --> 00:35:06,136
It's not Oh, an emotional man.

702
00:35:06,176 --> 00:35:06,546
Wow.

703
00:35:06,746 --> 00:35:09,535
It's when he says, why are you
weeping and breaking my heart?

704
00:35:09,535 --> 00:35:13,355
I just think that's so oh, I think
that's really beautiful because I

705
00:35:13,355 --> 00:35:15,775
can just imagine being like, guys,
I just really need encouragement.

706
00:35:15,775 --> 00:35:17,485
Stop stop telling me I'm going to die.

707
00:35:19,225 --> 00:35:24,245
And yeah, breaking my heart like this,
it's, it exposes that he is, he's

708
00:35:24,245 --> 00:35:27,645
nervous about this, that he's scared
about it and that he is, there's an

709
00:35:27,645 --> 00:35:31,625
element of him being heartbroken at
the idea that's what he's walking into.

710
00:35:32,075 --> 00:35:32,915
And yet.

711
00:35:33,295 --> 00:35:36,455
He's still sure that God's telling
him to do it and he's gonna do it.

712
00:35:36,705 --> 00:35:37,035
Yeah.

713
00:35:37,195 --> 00:35:38,295
What a cool guy.

714
00:35:38,335 --> 00:35:38,835
I love him

715
00:35:41,375 --> 00:35:43,255
Matt Edmundson: There's this
quote of the week, Paul, what

716
00:35:43,255 --> 00:35:45,785
a cool guy And I totally agree.

717
00:35:46,265 --> 00:35:49,495
And again Yeah, it's
fascinating, isn't it?

718
00:35:49,496 --> 00:35:53,205
I guess there's two things here There's
what the Holy Spirit is saying and then

719
00:35:53,205 --> 00:35:54,975
there's why he is saying it, right?

720
00:35:55,385 --> 00:35:59,870
So the church heard What the
Holy Spirit was saying But they

721
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,290
didn't necessarily understand why.

722
00:36:01,590 --> 00:36:05,550
And I think when Paul was talking
to them, there's you're breaking

723
00:36:05,550 --> 00:36:08,520
my heart, not because what you're
telling me is factually incorrect,

724
00:36:09,060 --> 00:36:10,550
but you've misunderstood the why.

725
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,290
Yeah.

726
00:36:11,300 --> 00:36:11,930
Do you know what I mean?

727
00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:17,640
And I think here is the, again, the
challenge for us as Christians is

728
00:36:18,590 --> 00:36:24,080
understanding what God is saying and why
God is saying that particular thing, what

729
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:28,820
and why two very important things, aren't
they, and it's a really tricky thing as

730
00:36:28,820 --> 00:36:30,750
a Christian sometimes to understand that.

731
00:36:31,060 --> 00:36:34,480
Because I know sometimes once I've
heard the what I just assume the way.

732
00:36:34,530 --> 00:36:34,940
Ellie Light: Yeah.

733
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:35,710
Do you know what I mean?

734
00:36:35,710 --> 00:36:37,450
This is the first time I'm
thinking about it, to be honest.

735
00:36:41,540 --> 00:36:44,440
Matt Edmundson: Nicholas put here, I often
look, if I add that to the broadcast,

736
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,850
I've just reformatted this computer.

737
00:36:45,860 --> 00:36:48,690
So I don't know if this is going
to work, or if it's all set up.

738
00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:50,080
Oh, look.

739
00:36:52,955 --> 00:36:56,855
I often look back on some of the
tough times I've had, and they

740
00:36:56,855 --> 00:36:58,205
have been very tough and hard.

741
00:36:58,215 --> 00:37:00,155
Would I change the choices I made?

742
00:37:00,155 --> 00:37:04,305
No, it's made me who I am.

743
00:37:04,325 --> 00:37:06,515
And also I'm able to help others going.

744
00:37:06,585 --> 00:37:07,605
Yeah, actually, that's true.

745
00:37:08,855 --> 00:37:09,575
That's very true.

746
00:37:09,580 --> 00:37:13,265
But I changed some of the choices that
I've made that comes into this interesting

747
00:37:13,265 --> 00:37:15,335
topic of conversation called regret.

748
00:37:15,660 --> 00:37:15,880
Yes.

749
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:17,160
Ellie Light: Oh, that's fun.

750
00:37:17,180 --> 00:37:18,120
That's fun isn't it?

751
00:37:18,780 --> 00:37:19,200
, 
Matt Edmundson: regret.

752
00:37:19,355 --> 00:37:21,305
Is regret a good thing, a bad thing?

753
00:37:22,115 --> 00:37:23,045
What do you regret?

754
00:37:23,050 --> 00:37:25,475
What would you change if you could
go back in time and change it?

755
00:37:25,955 --> 00:37:29,015
Is thinking about what you could
change and going back in time and if

756
00:37:29,015 --> 00:37:32,285
you could go back in time, a futile
exercise 'cause you can't do it and

757
00:37:32,285 --> 00:37:33,545
you're just, you're living in the past.

758
00:37:34,445 --> 00:37:37,195
And Paul, another thing that Paul
said is, I forget what's past, I

759
00:37:37,195 --> 00:37:38,445
just press on towards the goal.

760
00:37:38,805 --> 00:37:39,285
Again,

761
00:37:39,305 --> 00:37:40,285
Ellie Light: so cool.

762
00:37:40,315 --> 00:37:42,165
I just, I think he's brilliant.

763
00:37:42,215 --> 00:37:43,745
I really love Paul.

764
00:37:43,745 --> 00:37:46,015
I know that's like the
least original thing to say.

765
00:37:46,025 --> 00:37:46,815
Yeah, no, it's cool.

766
00:37:48,175 --> 00:37:49,165
Okay, interesting.

767
00:37:49,165 --> 00:37:52,275
Is it futile to look back
and reflect and regret?

768
00:37:53,205 --> 00:37:55,625
I don't know if it's futile,
but we do it, don't we?

769
00:37:55,965 --> 00:37:56,605
Yeah, sometimes

770
00:37:56,605 --> 00:37:57,095
Matt Edmundson: too much.

771
00:37:57,225 --> 00:37:57,875
Ellie Light: Yeah.

772
00:38:00,375 --> 00:38:02,935
Yeah, just part of being
human, I think, really.

773
00:38:02,965 --> 00:38:03,275
Yeah.

774
00:38:03,695 --> 00:38:09,830
I think maybe Some people do it too much
and sometimes it's easy to fall into it

775
00:38:09,830 --> 00:38:13,930
and as a bit of a pattern, but Also, don't
beat yourself up for doing it because

776
00:38:13,940 --> 00:38:15,640
it happens because sad things happen.

777
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,860
Yeah, like to think I
wish I'd not done that

778
00:38:22,295 --> 00:38:23,705
Matt Edmundson: I wish I'd
bought my Christmas tree earlier.

779
00:38:24,715 --> 00:38:25,445
Ellie Light: Yeah, I'm
going to call my dad.

780
00:38:27,035 --> 00:38:29,335
Just regretting all of our
Christmases actually, Dad.

781
00:38:29,336 --> 00:38:30,828
All of our

782
00:38:30,828 --> 00:38:31,823
Matt Edmundson: best Christmases.

783
00:38:31,823 --> 00:38:34,005
Sorry if you've just joined in.

784
00:38:34,005 --> 00:38:35,815
That joke won't make any
kind of sense at all.

785
00:38:35,885 --> 00:38:36,285
Little

786
00:38:36,545 --> 00:38:37,235
Ellie Light: call back there.

787
00:38:37,285 --> 00:38:37,525
Yeah,

788
00:38:37,525 --> 00:38:39,225
Matt Edmundson: you have to go
back and watch from the beginning.

789
00:38:39,275 --> 00:38:39,915
That doesn't make sense.

790
00:38:41,685 --> 00:38:42,265
Ellie Light: Interesting.

791
00:38:42,565 --> 00:38:45,876
Matt Edmundson: Anna, Anna said
at the end, she was talking about

792
00:38:45,986 --> 00:38:48,086
Paul enjoying hardship, right?

793
00:38:49,385 --> 00:38:54,095
. And how enjoying hardship is
actually part and parcel of

794
00:38:54,095 --> 00:38:57,395
what it means to follow Christ.

795
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,750
. And this.

796
00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:05,220
I think Anna, I can't remember the
exact phrase she used, but she talked

797
00:39:05,260 --> 00:39:07,830
about how in the Western Church
this has become an uncomfortable

798
00:39:07,830 --> 00:39:11,180
truth for our Christian faith.

799
00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:15,450
That's a really interesting
thing, isn't it?

800
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:23,260
What, would the Apostle Paul, with his
theology on all of this, be welcoming

801
00:39:23,260 --> 00:39:24,700
most Western churches, do you think?

802
00:39:25,770 --> 00:39:26,890
Would he be welcoming them?

803
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,240
No, would he be welcomed into?

804
00:39:28,300 --> 00:39:31,015
If Paul turned up to crowd
or frontline or whatever.

805
00:39:31,275 --> 00:39:31,605
Yeah.

806
00:39:31,705 --> 00:39:34,035
I wonder how we would respond to him.

807
00:39:36,285 --> 00:39:41,365
Because his call is often to, to
to vacate, for want of a better

808
00:39:41,365 --> 00:39:43,045
expression, our comfort zone.

809
00:39:43,075 --> 00:39:43,615
Yeah.

810
00:39:43,655 --> 00:39:43,965
Yeah.

811
00:39:43,965 --> 00:39:44,365
Do you know what I mean?

812
00:39:44,395 --> 00:39:44,785
Yeah.

813
00:39:45,455 --> 00:39:46,495
Which is what he's doing here.

814
00:39:46,525 --> 00:39:46,985
Yeah.

815
00:39:47,325 --> 00:39:50,695
Ellie Light: Yeah, I think we're all
quite quick to be like, oh, I think,

816
00:39:50,705 --> 00:39:51,735
God wants me to be comfortable.

817
00:39:51,735 --> 00:39:52,735
God wants me to be happy.

818
00:39:52,735 --> 00:39:54,545
God wants me to be Okay.

819
00:39:54,545 --> 00:39:59,975
And yeah, I'm sure there's elements of
that, it's not that he wants us to be he

820
00:39:59,975 --> 00:40:04,465
doesn't want us to be, destroyed or have
all these things happen to us, but he

821
00:40:04,465 --> 00:40:08,455
also wants us to do what he asks of us.

822
00:40:09,265 --> 00:40:13,505
And it's the fear of those, of losing the
comfort, isn't it, that stops us doing it.

823
00:40:17,175 --> 00:40:21,185
Yeah, I think we probably are
quite, maybe too comfortable.

824
00:40:21,255 --> 00:40:21,685
I don't know.

825
00:40:21,685 --> 00:40:22,635
It's so hard, isn't it?

826
00:40:22,635 --> 00:40:25,335
Cause then you get into all the
different I get into all the different,

827
00:40:25,345 --> 00:40:27,835
like little anxious thoughts about it.

828
00:40:27,835 --> 00:40:29,975
What's the, should I make
myself uncomfortable on purpose?

829
00:40:29,975 --> 00:40:30,325
All those things.

830
00:40:30,325 --> 00:40:31,655
Yeah.

831
00:40:31,655 --> 00:40:32,045
Wiggly.

832
00:40:33,285 --> 00:40:33,815
Matt Edmundson: You can't
go around in circles.

833
00:40:36,035 --> 00:40:39,235
Sue's put here in the comments, Sue,
sorry, has put in the comments, I

834
00:40:39,235 --> 00:40:43,255
regret being in a cult for 25 years
and still trying to work out why.

835
00:40:43,645 --> 00:40:46,345
Left 8 years ago many regrets,
talking about regrets.

836
00:40:46,875 --> 00:40:50,855
Wow, thanks for sharing that's, and
it's put here, you can't change the

837
00:40:50,855 --> 00:40:54,355
past, but it's what you do in the
present that can affect the future.

838
00:40:54,605 --> 00:40:54,985
Yeah.

839
00:40:55,275 --> 00:40:57,765
It's interesting, isn't it, when you
think about things like that, because

840
00:40:57,945 --> 00:41:00,555
there's a really interesting book
that came out recently by Dan Pink.

841
00:41:00,655 --> 00:41:03,365
I don't know where he's, it's not
a Christian book, I don't know

842
00:41:03,365 --> 00:41:04,495
where he is in terms of faith.

843
00:41:05,175 --> 00:41:06,820
whEre he talks about the power of regret.

844
00:41:07,310 --> 00:41:07,760
Okay.

845
00:41:07,820 --> 00:41:08,010
All right.

846
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,890
And how you can use regret
to, in a way that is powerful.

847
00:41:12,430 --> 00:41:16,320
There's been some really interesting
research that has come out recently

848
00:41:16,670 --> 00:41:28,860
on on how to journal about past
trauma or past stressful situations.

849
00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:33,480
So when we've been in situations,
the way we, there is a  protocol

850
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:37,260
to quote Andrew Huberman about how
to journal about that in a way that

851
00:41:37,260 --> 00:41:39,370
helps us deal with it in better ways.

852
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,280
And one of the things that struck me
about this podcast, and this is, he's

853
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:49,530
a neuroscientist human in effect, he,
what he said was, and I'm paraphrasing

854
00:41:49,530 --> 00:41:52,720
about an hour and a half's worth of
information in effect, what he said

855
00:41:52,730 --> 00:41:56,940
was, um, telling the truth to yourself.

856
00:41:57,510 --> 00:41:59,400
is incredibly powerful.

857
00:41:59,410 --> 00:41:59,750
Yeah.

858
00:41:59,750 --> 00:42:00,070
Great.

859
00:42:00,090 --> 00:42:00,460
Good.

860
00:42:00,830 --> 00:42:01,180
Great.

861
00:42:01,290 --> 00:42:06,100
And as I was listening to him, he was
like, the only thing that I, the thing

862
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:08,600
that was going around in the back of my
head all the time is that scripture where

863
00:42:08,610 --> 00:42:13,000
Jesus talks about how you will know the
truth and the truth will make you free.

864
00:42:13,650 --> 00:42:15,960
But there's this knowledge of
the truth that has to come first.

865
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,060
You have to know the truth
for the truth to set you free.

866
00:42:18,580 --> 00:42:23,300
And sometimes with regret, what I find is
I can glamorize it or I can overplay it.

867
00:42:23,865 --> 00:42:29,525
And it's all a bit fuzzy, or I'd wish
I'd not done that, whereas when we

868
00:42:29,525 --> 00:42:32,745
label it, when we put names on it,
when we understand the truth of it,

869
00:42:33,515 --> 00:42:34,975
then we can be free of it, right?

870
00:42:34,995 --> 00:42:40,675
And the thing about regrets, I've It
seems the power is in being totally

871
00:42:40,675 --> 00:42:44,735
upfront and honest about them, as
opposed to just going, I'll regret that.

872
00:42:44,735 --> 00:42:47,315
And it's just this fuzzy thing
in the back of my head that I

873
00:42:47,315 --> 00:42:49,765
don't want to think about because
it makes me feel uncomfortable.

874
00:42:50,135 --> 00:42:50,455
Yeah.

875
00:42:50,645 --> 00:42:51,325
Does that make sense?

876
00:42:51,345 --> 00:42:52,265
Ellie Light: Makes loads of sense.

877
00:42:53,045 --> 00:42:53,405
That's great.

878
00:42:53,415 --> 00:42:53,855
Top tip.

879
00:42:54,155 --> 00:42:55,215
No, I think that's really good.

880
00:42:55,745 --> 00:42:56,065
Yeah.

881
00:42:56,305 --> 00:42:59,135
Because, yeah, if you're not really
looking at it, if you're not remembering

882
00:42:59,135 --> 00:43:02,105
it properly, if you're not thinking
about it properly, so I guess that's the

883
00:43:02,105 --> 00:43:03,465
whole thing of dwelling on it or not.

884
00:43:03,835 --> 00:43:04,775
If you're dwelling on it in.

885
00:43:06,250 --> 00:43:10,240
With the right lens, then you can
actually process and be like, Oh

886
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:11,360
yeah, no, that was really hard.

887
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,460
And that's fine that I was really hard.

888
00:43:13,460 --> 00:43:13,810
That's fine.

889
00:43:14,020 --> 00:43:15,620
I wish I hadn't made
that decision, but also.

890
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,950
Recognizing that you couldn't have
made any other decision different.

891
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:19,170
Yeah.

892
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:19,520
Yeah.

893
00:43:20,140 --> 00:43:21,040
Matt Edmundson: Really interesting.

894
00:43:21,050 --> 00:43:21,830
Fascinating stuff.

895
00:43:21,830 --> 00:43:22,910
So thanks for sharing.

896
00:43:23,260 --> 00:43:24,240
Actually, I should put here.

897
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:27,330
I have no bitterness but often
feel so sad about all the things

898
00:43:27,340 --> 00:43:28,630
that I've missed with my family.

899
00:43:28,650 --> 00:43:30,010
Many died in that time.

900
00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:30,990
Yeah.

901
00:43:30,990 --> 00:43:31,950
My heart breaks for you.

902
00:43:32,270 --> 00:43:36,740
There's no easy answer to things
like that other than to thank

903
00:43:36,740 --> 00:43:37,820
God that he's with us right now.

904
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:38,320
Yeah.

905
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:38,750
Yeah.

906
00:43:38,830 --> 00:43:39,670
And actually.

907
00:43:42,295 --> 00:43:45,805
I don't know, my theology
on this is interesting.

908
00:43:47,595 --> 00:43:52,435
I think all things ultimately
are redeemable, right?

909
00:43:52,705 --> 00:43:53,225
With God.

910
00:43:53,255 --> 00:43:54,245
Everything is redeemable.

911
00:43:54,245 --> 00:43:56,785
We can, there's nothing that
is beyond his redemption.

912
00:43:57,045 --> 00:43:58,545
I'm utterly convinced of it.

913
00:43:59,075 --> 00:44:05,535
But sometimes we have to deal with and
feel the consequences of decisions, right?

914
00:44:05,865 --> 00:44:07,105
So you read the book of Job.

915
00:44:08,275 --> 00:44:09,665
Interestingly spelt job.

916
00:44:11,625 --> 00:44:14,685
You read the book of Job and he goes
through this horrific time talking

917
00:44:14,685 --> 00:44:15,895
about enduring hardship, right?

918
00:44:16,045 --> 00:44:17,975
He goes through this horrific time.

919
00:44:18,485 --> 00:44:20,835
And scripture says at the end
that God restored him back

920
00:44:20,845 --> 00:44:22,605
twice what he'd lost, right?

921
00:44:23,445 --> 00:44:24,805
Which is really interesting thing.

922
00:44:24,805 --> 00:44:29,595
So in other words, that whole situation
was redeemed, but it was redeemed in

923
00:44:29,595 --> 00:44:33,685
certain ways, as in his wealth was
twice what it was beforehand, there

924
00:44:33,685 --> 00:44:34,695
were certain things which were better.

925
00:44:36,275 --> 00:44:38,615
But he still lost family
members through the whole thing.

926
00:44:38,655 --> 00:44:40,855
And he still had to deal
with the loss of his family.

927
00:44:40,935 --> 00:44:41,295
Yeah.

928
00:44:42,235 --> 00:44:42,615
Mad.

929
00:44:43,095 --> 00:44:43,435
Yeah.

930
00:44:44,255 --> 00:44:45,485
Mad is the right word.

931
00:44:45,495 --> 00:44:51,385
So yeah, it's it's one of those, so
as I'm I, it's there I believe that

932
00:44:51,385 --> 00:44:53,035
period of your life can be redeemed.

933
00:44:53,405 --> 00:44:57,385
I don't think that always means
that we can escape the consequences

934
00:44:57,835 --> 00:44:59,165
of things that have happened.

935
00:44:59,235 --> 00:44:59,575
Yeah.

936
00:44:59,835 --> 00:45:05,500
But I think, I think it was,
it is just one of those things

937
00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:08,330
where we just trust God.

938
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,170
Yeah, as cliche and
Christian as that sounds.

939
00:45:11,210 --> 00:45:11,510
Yeah,

940
00:45:11,580 --> 00:45:12,110
Ellie Light: I think that's.

941
00:45:12,935 --> 00:45:14,355
Tends to be what the answer always is.

942
00:45:15,645 --> 00:45:16,495
But it's true.

943
00:45:16,495 --> 00:45:20,445
Like even if you're ever in doubt, just
going to him and, whether you're making

944
00:45:20,445 --> 00:45:21,855
like big decisions of do I do this?

945
00:45:21,855 --> 00:45:22,545
Or do I do this?

946
00:45:22,545 --> 00:45:25,695
Or, just go, the more time you spend
with God, the more, his voice and

947
00:45:25,695 --> 00:45:28,145
the more he knows how to talk to
you and you know how to hear him.

948
00:45:28,145 --> 00:45:30,655
And then you'll know whether he's
telling you to do this or this.

949
00:45:30,665 --> 00:45:33,695
If you've, if you're regretting
something or if something's really

950
00:45:33,695 --> 00:45:38,125
painful going to him, because he knows
what you need more so than you do.

951
00:45:38,125 --> 00:45:40,585
And It's got it all.

952
00:45:40,585 --> 00:45:41,775
It's got it

953
00:45:41,775 --> 00:45:41,995
Matt Edmundson: all.

954
00:45:42,185 --> 00:45:42,655
Got it all.

955
00:45:43,345 --> 00:45:44,385
whAt was the name of the book?

956
00:45:44,385 --> 00:45:47,135
So amazing you brought this
up the subject of regret.

957
00:45:47,195 --> 00:45:47,715
God bless.

958
00:45:48,145 --> 00:45:51,795
I really wish I could remember the name
of the book, but it's by Daniel Pink.

959
00:45:51,815 --> 00:45:55,335
So if you Google Daniel Pink
regret I think it will come up.

960
00:45:55,335 --> 00:45:56,845
Like I say, it's not a Christian book.

961
00:45:56,845 --> 00:45:59,695
So I don't know if I'd build
a theology from what he said.

962
00:46:00,145 --> 00:46:05,115
And I'm very keen that we don't Crowd
and I don't think the Bible and I don't

963
00:46:05,115 --> 00:46:08,035
think Christianity is about self help
in a lot of ways, I think it's easy to

964
00:46:08,045 --> 00:46:11,075
try and make it about self help, but
it is still a fascinating book to read.

965
00:46:11,535 --> 00:46:14,775
And yeah, I think it's called The
Power of Regret or something like that.

966
00:46:14,935 --> 00:46:17,475
Yeah, enjoy that as they say.

967
00:46:18,225 --> 00:46:20,205
So count the cost of following Christ.

968
00:46:20,225 --> 00:46:21,685
It's not always straightforward.

969
00:46:21,685 --> 00:46:30,915
So I guess the question here is, if I
look on my life, what are some of the

970
00:46:30,925 --> 00:46:34,805
things that God's asked me to do, which
are slightly outside of my comfort zone

971
00:46:35,135 --> 00:46:37,645
that I have to be intentional in doing?

972
00:46:40,805 --> 00:46:44,400
It's a really fascinating question
for me because I don't know if

973
00:46:44,420 --> 00:46:48,410
you can grow that much inside your
comfort zone, if that makes sense.

974
00:46:48,820 --> 00:46:49,160
Yeah.

975
00:46:49,530 --> 00:46:50,420
And that a lot, don't you?

976
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,820
You actually see that in the
physical body, muscles don't

977
00:46:52,940 --> 00:46:54,170
grow unless they're stretched.

978
00:46:55,570 --> 00:46:58,320
I wish I could just sit here
and just watch my biceps grow.

979
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,220
That would be amazing.

980
00:47:01,610 --> 00:47:04,980
It seems like God has ordained in
such a way that actually, it's in the

981
00:47:04,990 --> 00:47:07,290
hardship, it's in the It's in the stress.

982
00:47:07,290 --> 00:47:09,520
It's when things are not going right
that we actually grow the most.

983
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,160
I don't know if you've found that.

984
00:47:10,220 --> 00:47:12,760
Ellie Light: Yes, I would say that.

985
00:47:13,690 --> 00:47:16,670
Um, yes, sorry.

986
00:47:16,670 --> 00:47:17,250
I'm in my head.

987
00:47:17,250 --> 00:47:19,960
I'm distinguishing the difference between
having gone through a hard thing that

988
00:47:19,970 --> 00:47:24,140
I've then learned from, and then like
recognizing the importance then of

989
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:28,440
things like, spiritual disciplines that
aren't necessarily like as painful as the

990
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,780
hardships that you end up going through.

991
00:47:29,780 --> 00:47:31,210
Yeah, not saying so what do you mean

992
00:47:31,420 --> 00:47:31,950
Matt Edmundson: by spiritual

993
00:47:31,950 --> 00:47:32,520
Ellie Light: disciplines?

994
00:47:32,580 --> 00:47:36,710
Just spending time with God every
day, praying, fasting, all those

995
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:39,750
things that, can sometimes feel like
a bit of inconvenience if you're

996
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:41,010
not in the right headspace for it.

997
00:47:41,220 --> 00:47:41,370
Yeah.

998
00:47:41,450 --> 00:47:42,760
But actually just like.

999
00:47:43,315 --> 00:47:46,065
You can't, you need to exercise, as
you're saying to look after your body.

1000
00:47:46,435 --> 00:47:47,775
Sometimes you just
really can't be bothered.

1001
00:47:47,815 --> 00:47:49,595
And some days you're really like,
yeah, I'm going to go for a run or

1002
00:47:49,655 --> 00:47:50,815
yeah, I'm going to praise the Lord.

1003
00:47:51,045 --> 00:47:51,715
But I'm never,

1004
00:47:51,975 --> 00:47:53,978
Matt Edmundson: I'm going to go for a

1005
00:47:53,978 --> 00:47:55,231
Ellie Light: run.

1006
00:47:55,231 --> 00:47:57,571
It's the discipline of actually, I
know that this is a good thing for

1007
00:47:57,601 --> 00:47:59,611
me to do, so I'm going to do it.

1008
00:47:59,641 --> 00:48:00,541
And that's the discipline, is it?

1009
00:48:00,551 --> 00:48:02,341
And sometimes that feels
really uncomfortable.

1010
00:48:02,781 --> 00:48:03,631
And sometimes it doesn't.

1011
00:48:03,671 --> 00:48:05,421
And that's the same a similar thing of.

1012
00:48:07,216 --> 00:48:09,666
I was just going to try and distinguish
that I think there's a line between

1013
00:48:09,716 --> 00:48:13,086
oh, you have to go, you have to put
yourself through difficult things

1014
00:48:13,086 --> 00:48:15,216
to be able to grow because I don't
think that's quite the same thing.

1015
00:48:15,216 --> 00:48:16,846
But I think that's an unnecessary
distinction, because that's

1016
00:48:17,196 --> 00:48:17,966
obviously not what you're saying.

1017
00:48:22,396 --> 00:48:22,746
Fair play.

1018
00:48:22,796 --> 00:48:23,106
Matt Edmundson: Yeah.

1019
00:48:23,266 --> 00:48:23,446
Yep.

1020
00:48:23,446 --> 00:48:24,246
Fair play.

1021
00:48:24,846 --> 00:48:25,636
It's true.

1022
00:48:25,886 --> 00:48:26,396
Oh, here we go.

1023
00:48:26,566 --> 00:48:27,666
I have healthy kids.

1024
00:48:28,026 --> 00:48:29,226
Food, a house and a job.

1025
00:48:29,236 --> 00:48:31,096
Very blessed, but my
heart gets heavy at times.

1026
00:48:31,096 --> 00:48:32,026
Yeah, no, I bet it does, mate.

1027
00:48:32,176 --> 00:48:32,896
Yeah, I bet it does.

1028
00:48:33,276 --> 00:48:34,196
Bless you and all of that.

1029
00:48:34,336 --> 00:48:38,266
Yeah I've had a horrendous year this
year in some way, says Matt Crew, but

1030
00:48:38,276 --> 00:48:41,436
having more time to pray and recover
this year has been a highlight in

1031
00:48:41,516 --> 00:48:43,626
order to recover my mental health.

1032
00:48:43,646 --> 00:48:44,126
Yes.

1033
00:48:44,626 --> 00:48:45,616
That's the other thing, isn't it?

1034
00:48:45,616 --> 00:48:47,026
It's never waste a good trial.

1035
00:48:47,706 --> 00:48:49,816
When you find yourself in
difficult times or hard times.

1036
00:48:50,316 --> 00:48:50,806
Yeah, it's yeah.

1037
00:48:51,366 --> 00:48:53,356
God, what are you saying in this, right?

1038
00:48:53,386 --> 00:48:56,026
And actually, never waste a good
trial because there's a lot of

1039
00:48:56,026 --> 00:48:57,306
learning that can happen in them.

1040
00:48:57,416 --> 00:48:57,806
Yeah.

1041
00:48:57,886 --> 00:48:58,926
There's no doubt about it.

1042
00:49:00,266 --> 00:49:00,786
Anything else?

1043
00:49:00,806 --> 00:49:02,476
You took lots of notes, anything
else in your notes in the

1044
00:49:02,476 --> 00:49:03,086
Ellie Light: last few minutes?

1045
00:49:03,106 --> 00:49:09,036
I think we've really covered it, Yeah,
oh, I've just hit the mic, sorry.

1046
00:49:09,036 --> 00:49:09,246
Full circle, eh?

1047
00:49:11,486 --> 00:49:13,066
Matt Edmundson: Smacked
the mic with my book.

1048
00:49:13,576 --> 00:49:15,406
How very good, well done.

1049
00:49:15,596 --> 00:49:17,206
How did you find it, your first hosting?

1050
00:49:17,316 --> 00:49:17,506
Yeah, it

1051
00:49:17,506 --> 00:49:17,996
Ellie Light: was fun.

1052
00:49:18,376 --> 00:49:18,916
I enjoyed it.

1053
00:49:19,966 --> 00:49:20,306
You're just so

1054
00:49:20,356 --> 00:49:20,896
Matt Edmundson: cool, Ellie.

1055
00:49:22,476 --> 00:49:23,516
So chilled out and laid back.

1056
00:49:23,516 --> 00:49:24,066
Me, I'd be like

1057
00:49:25,681 --> 00:49:27,021
Ellie Light: She's nice
talking about things, isn't

1058
00:49:27,021 --> 00:49:27,171
Matt Edmundson: it?

1059
00:49:27,221 --> 00:49:28,451
Yeah, it's nice having a chat.

1060
00:49:28,511 --> 00:49:29,861
Yeah, it's always good fun.

1061
00:49:30,021 --> 00:49:30,671
Always good fun.

1062
00:49:31,101 --> 00:49:33,211
That's that's the end
of Conversation Street.

1063
00:49:33,211 --> 00:49:34,611
We'll draw that to an end there.

1064
00:49:34,611 --> 00:49:35,601
Thank you so much.

1065
00:49:36,781 --> 00:49:37,221
Don't break the mic.

1066
00:49:39,381 --> 00:49:42,251
It's very good at telling you what
to do after you've done it, Matt.

1067
00:49:42,391 --> 00:49:43,031
I've noticed this.

1068
00:49:43,031 --> 00:49:43,411
Yeah,

1069
00:49:43,421 --> 00:49:43,721
Ellie Light: good.

1070
00:49:43,761 --> 00:49:46,241
I suppose that's the nature of
the whole live stream, isn't it?

1071
00:49:46,241 --> 00:49:49,441
It's a little out of sync, isn't it?

1072
00:49:49,441 --> 00:49:49,731
Yeah.

1073
00:49:49,891 --> 00:49:51,021
Oh, Bukele again.

1074
00:49:51,081 --> 00:49:51,391
There we go.

1075
00:49:51,811 --> 00:49:51,991
Oh, I know.

1076
00:49:55,961 --> 00:49:56,721
Matt Edmundson: Let's get the dates in.

1077
00:49:56,771 --> 00:49:58,841
This is what Matt wrote in the
comments, if you can't see.

1078
00:49:58,931 --> 00:50:00,041
I can add it to broadcast.

1079
00:50:00,181 --> 00:50:01,431
There we go, Bukele again.

1080
00:50:02,841 --> 00:50:03,651
Promote the Zoom.

1081
00:50:03,651 --> 00:50:04,101
Yes, I will.

1082
00:50:04,451 --> 00:50:05,371
Alright, Matt, calm down.

1083
00:50:08,211 --> 00:50:09,431
Yes, thank you for joining us.

1084
00:50:09,451 --> 00:50:15,211
So just to let you know a few things every
Wednesday we have a Zoom online group.

1085
00:50:15,691 --> 00:50:18,381
Come join us on the Zoom if you'd
like to join an online community

1086
00:50:18,381 --> 00:50:20,441
that Matt's talking about here
where he says promote the Zoom.

1087
00:50:21,341 --> 00:50:22,371
That's basically what we do.

1088
00:50:22,371 --> 00:50:25,621
We just get together, a few of us on Zoom,
we'll chat, we'll catch up, we'll pray,

1089
00:50:25,621 --> 00:50:27,041
we'll do all those kind of good things.

1090
00:50:27,041 --> 00:50:28,731
If you'd like to join us,
we'd love to see you in there.

1091
00:50:29,311 --> 00:50:31,991
If you go to the website www.

1092
00:50:32,051 --> 00:50:32,491
crowd.

1093
00:50:32,711 --> 00:50:36,781
church or find us on social media
at crowdchurch and just reach out

1094
00:50:36,781 --> 00:50:38,731
to us, we will let you know those.

1095
00:50:39,157 --> 00:50:40,946
Details.

1096
00:50:40,946 --> 00:50:42,526
Susan, by the way.

1097
00:50:42,576 --> 00:50:43,696
Oh, Susan stands for Susan.

1098
00:50:43,696 --> 00:50:44,756
Susan, brilliant.

1099
00:50:45,096 --> 00:50:46,056
Thanks for the laughter.

1100
00:50:46,126 --> 00:50:46,836
Laughter helps.

1101
00:50:46,856 --> 00:50:47,256
It does.

1102
00:50:47,266 --> 00:50:47,636
Yeah, it

1103
00:50:47,637 --> 00:50:49,016
Ellie Light: does.

1104
00:50:49,016 --> 00:50:51,686
You could do a whole other
episode on that, couldn't you?

1105
00:50:52,836 --> 00:50:54,406
Matt Edmundson: Yeah,
it says it in the Bible.

1106
00:50:54,406 --> 00:50:55,716
Mary Hart does good like a medicine.

1107
00:50:55,736 --> 00:50:56,856
Ellie Light: It's so good.

1108
00:50:57,226 --> 00:50:58,141
Yeah.

1109
00:50:58,141 --> 00:50:59,056
Matt Edmundson: Yeah.

1110
00:50:59,056 --> 00:51:01,776
And if you need to laugh, my advice,
go watch anything by Tim Hawkins.

1111
00:51:02,151 --> 00:51:03,111
Oh, all right.

1112
00:51:03,151 --> 00:51:04,371
Have you come across Tim Morgans?

1113
00:51:04,371 --> 00:51:04,391
No.

1114
00:51:04,651 --> 00:51:08,031
Christian stand up comedian, which I
appreciate sounds like an oxymoron.

1115
00:51:08,081 --> 00:51:10,637
Yeah, it sure does.

1116
00:51:10,637 --> 00:51:14,651
Hang on, Christian stand up
comedian, what are you talking about?

1117
00:51:14,991 --> 00:51:17,151
But I can tell you the chap
is exceptionally funny.

1118
00:51:17,151 --> 00:51:18,441
He's got a lot of videos on YouTube.

1119
00:51:18,601 --> 00:51:18,871
Yeah.

1120
00:51:18,951 --> 00:51:24,021
And In 2018, I went over to the States
with Josh and Zach, just dads and

1121
00:51:24,021 --> 00:51:26,431
lads trip, just brilliant, loved it.

1122
00:51:26,981 --> 00:51:30,051
And we managed to go see
him live in Connecticut.

1123
00:51:30,101 --> 00:51:32,061
We went and stayed with some
folks and we went over to

1124
00:51:32,071 --> 00:51:33,651
Connecticut and watched him live.

1125
00:51:34,351 --> 00:51:38,241
At the end of that set, I was
like, I'm like, please, can you

1126
00:51:38,241 --> 00:51:41,261
just stop telling jokes because
my sides were hurting so much.

1127
00:51:41,571 --> 00:51:42,121
So good.

1128
00:51:42,131 --> 00:51:43,071
Yeah, he's really good.

1129
00:51:43,441 --> 00:51:44,041
Really good.

1130
00:51:44,041 --> 00:51:45,811
So just go, ever need
to laugh, go watch Tim

1131
00:51:45,811 --> 00:51:46,011
Ellie Light: Hawkins.

1132
00:51:46,161 --> 00:51:47,131
So good to have a giggle.

1133
00:51:48,111 --> 00:51:51,301
Matt Edmundson: Ellie, give
Matt his Ancient One pills.

1134
00:51:52,131 --> 00:51:52,471
I don't

1135
00:51:52,471 --> 00:51:53,441
Ellie Light: get that reference.

1136
00:51:53,561 --> 00:51:56,071
Matt Edmundson: Oh, it's just
he likes to call me Ancient One.

1137
00:51:56,271 --> 00:51:57,531
Ellie Light: Oh, okay.

1138
00:51:58,221 --> 00:52:00,531
And then you have a pill
to make you not ancient.

1139
00:52:02,541 --> 00:52:04,551
Matt Edmundson: If I did have such
a pill, I would be selling them.

1140
00:52:04,551 --> 00:52:05,861
I'd make an absolute fortune.

1141
00:52:05,861 --> 00:52:07,461
The ultimate youth pill.

1142
00:52:08,611 --> 00:52:10,291
So yes, it's great to
connect with you Susan.

1143
00:52:10,291 --> 00:52:11,201
Thanks for joining us.

1144
00:52:11,301 --> 00:52:15,176
Like I say, if you'd like to know more
about Crowd Head over to the website, www.

1145
00:52:15,226 --> 00:52:15,566
crowd.

1146
00:52:15,736 --> 00:52:19,946
church, if you want to know more about
the Zoom, everything's on there, www.

1147
00:52:19,946 --> 00:52:20,536
crowd.

1148
00:52:20,896 --> 00:52:21,116
zoom.

1149
00:52:21,116 --> 00:52:24,166
You can reach out to us on social
media, we'd love to connect with you.

1150
00:52:24,676 --> 00:52:27,676
Coming up in next week,
what we've got next week.

1151
00:52:28,426 --> 00:52:28,946
Do you remember?

1152
00:52:29,006 --> 00:52:29,166
No!

1153
00:52:29,166 --> 00:52:33,286
Obviously not!

1154
00:52:33,286 --> 00:52:37,926
We talked about it an hour ago, Matt,
we talked about it, and I did write

1155
00:52:37,926 --> 00:52:41,436
stuff down and Ali just looked at it and
went, there's no way I can read that.

1156
00:52:41,676 --> 00:52:41,716
I can't

1157
00:52:41,716 --> 00:52:44,446
Ellie Light: read it
at all, absolutely not.

1158
00:52:44,446 --> 00:52:47,526
I can see there's things circled, but
I don't know what the circles mean.

1159
00:52:48,366 --> 00:52:49,716
Matt Edmundson: It's just
highlighting stuff for me to do.

1160
00:52:52,636 --> 00:52:55,046
So next week, yes, we are
talking about Biblical worldview.

1161
00:52:55,076 --> 00:52:55,986
I say we, it's me.

1162
00:52:56,296 --> 00:52:59,166
I'm doing the talk next week.

1163
00:52:59,446 --> 00:53:02,196
We have Dan and Will hosting.

1164
00:53:02,196 --> 00:53:04,476
So Will Sobworth, he's
another first timer.

1165
00:53:04,746 --> 00:53:05,876
Oh, that's fun, isn't it?

1166
00:53:05,876 --> 00:53:07,136
Yeah, he was in the comments earlier.

1167
00:53:07,136 --> 00:53:08,776
I don't know if he's, if
Will's still around, but he.

1168
00:53:09,241 --> 00:53:12,471
His first time hosting next week,
like you, he's done talks at Crowd,

1169
00:53:12,471 --> 00:53:13,931
but next week's going to be hosting.

1170
00:53:13,931 --> 00:53:16,121
So he's such a legend, Will.

1171
00:53:16,831 --> 00:53:19,941
He's such an, he's an absolute
legend, love the bones of the

1172
00:53:19,941 --> 00:53:21,171
man, he's such a great guy.

1173
00:53:21,661 --> 00:53:23,591
And so I'm excited for next week.

1174
00:53:23,611 --> 00:53:26,951
Yes, you've got Will and Dan
hosting, you've got me doing the

1175
00:53:26,951 --> 00:53:28,831
talk all about biblical worldviews.

1176
00:53:29,331 --> 00:53:30,051
Glorious.

1177
00:53:31,456 --> 00:53:32,436
Yeah, let's go with yes.

1178
00:53:34,926 --> 00:53:36,086
I'm just racking my brain.

1179
00:53:36,156 --> 00:53:36,566
Was he glad?

1180
00:53:36,776 --> 00:53:36,996
I don't know.

1181
00:53:36,996 --> 00:53:38,366
I hope you enjoy the talk.

1182
00:53:38,366 --> 00:53:40,896
I hope you find it challenging and
informative all at the same time.

1183
00:53:41,396 --> 00:53:42,716
His hand sketch is the best.

1184
00:53:42,736 --> 00:53:43,846
Are you talking about me, Nicola?

1185
00:53:43,866 --> 00:53:44,576
My hand sketch?

1186
00:53:44,576 --> 00:53:45,156
I'm not quite sure.

1187
00:53:45,476 --> 00:53:45,936
Isn't that the

1188
00:53:45,966 --> 00:53:46,246
Ellie Light: comedy?

1189
00:53:46,601 --> 00:53:47,241
Comedy man.

1190
00:53:47,661 --> 00:53:48,001
Oh,

1191
00:53:48,001 --> 00:53:48,661
Matt Edmundson: yeah.

1192
00:53:49,001 --> 00:53:49,551
Comedian.

1193
00:53:49,721 --> 00:53:49,971
Sorry.

1194
00:53:49,991 --> 00:53:52,221
Yeah, Tim Hawkins, his
hand sketch is the best.

1195
00:53:53,021 --> 00:53:55,631
Yes, he's talking about, I
should play that on Crowd Church.

1196
00:53:55,991 --> 00:54:01,081
He talks about what happens when I get
it now, Nicholas, sorry, I, he's got

1197
00:54:01,081 --> 00:54:06,726
this routine, where I think if you just
Google or go to YouTube and put in Tim

1198
00:54:06,726 --> 00:54:11,756
Hawkins worship hands and what Christians
do with their hands during worship.

1199
00:54:11,766 --> 00:54:12,016
Ellie Light: Yeah.

1200
00:54:12,676 --> 00:54:13,346
Very good.

1201
00:54:13,416 --> 00:54:14,736
I can imagine it.

1202
00:54:15,056 --> 00:54:15,276
Matt Edmundson: Yeah.

1203
00:54:15,276 --> 00:54:15,396
Yeah.

1204
00:54:15,396 --> 00:54:16,256
Just after this live stream.

1205
00:54:16,286 --> 00:54:16,966
Don't do it now.

1206
00:54:18,006 --> 00:54:22,086
When the live stream's ended, just
go Google on YouTube, Tim Hawkins

1207
00:54:22,146 --> 00:54:23,486
worship hands and it will come up.

1208
00:54:23,516 --> 00:54:24,546
I'm fairly sure it will come up.

1209
00:54:24,996 --> 00:54:29,746
And it's, if you've been around
church any length of time,

1210
00:54:29,746 --> 00:54:31,116
you will find that hysterical.

1211
00:54:33,181 --> 00:54:33,781
I think that's good.

1212
00:54:33,781 --> 00:54:34,771
I think we'll end the live stream there.

1213
00:54:34,841 --> 00:54:35,971
Ellie, thank you for joining me.

1214
00:54:36,031 --> 00:54:36,241
Been a

1215
00:54:36,241 --> 00:54:36,681
Ellie Light: pleasure.

1216
00:54:36,861 --> 00:54:37,511
Thanks for having me.

1217
00:54:37,521 --> 00:54:38,071
You coming back?

1218
00:54:38,281 --> 00:54:38,981
Sure, why not?

1219
00:54:39,641 --> 00:54:40,001
This is so cool.

1220
00:54:40,301 --> 00:54:41,351
Got nothing better to do.

1221
00:54:42,931 --> 00:54:45,491
Matt Edmundson: Dunno, if I
get the curtains up next time.

1222
00:54:45,491 --> 00:54:46,831
Yeah.

1223
00:54:46,831 --> 00:54:47,211
Brilliant.

1224
00:54:47,511 --> 00:54:49,401
We need to go get you a Christmas
tree, that's what we need to do.

1225
00:54:50,101 --> 00:54:50,341
Yeah.

1226
00:54:50,341 --> 00:54:51,981
So Merry Christmas, everyone.

1227
00:54:52,011 --> 00:54:53,981
I hope you find Advent interesting.

1228
00:54:53,991 --> 00:54:57,021
Advent's a fascinating time just to
reflect on the story of Jesus, the

1229
00:54:57,031 --> 00:54:58,591
birth of Christ coming up December 25th.

1230
00:54:58,591 --> 00:55:00,081
In case you didn't know,
happy birthday, Jesus.

1231
00:55:00,591 --> 00:55:03,551
We've got a Christmas service this year.

1232
00:55:04,201 --> 00:55:04,761
whEn is it?

1233
00:55:04,771 --> 00:55:05,321
Matt will know.

1234
00:55:07,501 --> 00:55:10,691
I will tell you now when it is
cause I've got the information here.

1235
00:55:11,601 --> 00:55:15,021
So next week we are
talking about worldview.

1236
00:55:16,021 --> 00:55:18,181
And then we have our non live stream.

1237
00:55:19,136 --> 00:55:19,486
Where is it?

1238
00:55:19,496 --> 00:55:20,236
Here it is.

1239
00:55:20,486 --> 00:55:21,796
24th, Christmas Eve.

1240
00:55:22,056 --> 00:55:22,496
Crikey.

1241
00:55:23,036 --> 00:55:23,616
Christmas Eve.

1242
00:55:23,906 --> 00:55:24,706
It's a Christmas on a Monday.

1243
00:55:24,706 --> 00:55:24,896
I'll be

1244
00:55:24,896 --> 00:55:25,636
Ellie Light: by my Christmas tree.

1245
00:55:29,506 --> 00:55:31,826
Matt Edmundson: Listening to
Crowd Church while you're in your

1246
00:55:31,827 --> 00:55:33,636
headphones while she's by the
church, oh I don't want that one.

1247
00:55:35,136 --> 00:55:37,646
Out of the two that are left for 3.

1248
00:55:37,646 --> 00:55:37,746
There's

1249
00:55:37,786 --> 00:55:40,686
Ellie Light: always loads left and
they're always really good quality.

1250
00:55:43,636 --> 00:55:45,456
Matt Edmundson: Yesterday when
we went with Jenny and Rob.

1251
00:55:45,456 --> 00:55:46,306
Jenny used to live with us.

1252
00:55:46,316 --> 00:55:47,066
She's a paramedic.

1253
00:55:47,066 --> 00:55:47,856
She got married last year.

1254
00:55:48,081 --> 00:55:48,141
Yeah.

1255
00:55:48,841 --> 00:55:50,851
to A guy called Rob who's
also a paramedic, two of the

1256
00:55:50,851 --> 00:55:51,931
funniest people on the planet.

1257
00:55:52,171 --> 00:55:52,381
That's nice.

1258
00:55:52,561 --> 00:55:53,851
And so we go and choose a tree.

1259
00:55:53,851 --> 00:55:55,711
I'm like, I want one that's
really wide and bushy.

1260
00:55:55,711 --> 00:55:56,821
'cause it's now bay window.

1261
00:55:57,001 --> 00:55:57,271
Lovely.

1262
00:55:57,271 --> 00:55:57,451
Yeah.

1263
00:55:57,481 --> 00:55:59,821
Sadaf was like, I want one that's
a bit narrower 'cause we don't

1264
00:55:59,821 --> 00:56:02,671
have a big bay window and I still
wanna be able to access my room.

1265
00:56:02,761 --> 00:56:03,151
Sensible.

1266
00:56:03,151 --> 00:56:03,961
Which was sensible.

1267
00:56:04,441 --> 00:56:06,721
And then Jenny walked over to
the guy and said, I just want

1268
00:56:06,721 --> 00:56:08,431
one that smells really nice,

1269
00:56:10,471 --> 00:56:11,371
. 
Ellie Light: It is the smell.

1270
00:56:11,371 --> 00:56:12,211
That's the best bit

1271
00:56:12,211 --> 00:56:13,106
Matt Edmundson: about it, isn't it?

1272
00:56:13,206 --> 00:56:13,801
The best Christmas.

1273
00:56:14,446 --> 00:56:17,046
So we were all walking
around smelling the trees.

1274
00:56:17,076 --> 00:56:18,696
He must have thought,
what's wrong with you?

1275
00:56:20,016 --> 00:56:21,336
I think this one smells better, Jen.

1276
00:56:21,337 --> 00:56:22,288
Oh, that's

1277
00:56:22,288 --> 00:56:23,239
Anna Kettle: so nice.

1278
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:24,191
Oh, now

1279
00:56:24,191 --> 00:56:25,256
Ellie Light: I want a Christmas

1280
00:56:25,266 --> 00:56:25,606
Matt Edmundson: tree.

1281
00:56:25,607 --> 00:56:27,036
You should totally go get one.

1282
00:56:27,036 --> 00:56:29,366
I can recommend the guy,
go buy a Christmas tree and

1283
00:56:29,406 --> 00:56:30,386
get the decorations on it.

1284
00:56:30,466 --> 00:56:32,886
So yeah, get your Christmas tree
up if you haven't done so already.

1285
00:56:33,816 --> 00:56:35,056
But yes, that's it from us.

1286
00:56:35,066 --> 00:56:36,426
Thank you so much for joining us.

1287
00:56:37,026 --> 00:56:38,126
Have a fantastic week.

1288
00:56:38,266 --> 00:56:39,176
I think that's it for me.

1289
00:56:39,176 --> 00:56:39,830
Is that it from you?

1290
00:56:39,830 --> 00:56:40,176
That's it.

1291
00:56:40,286 --> 00:56:40,886
That's it.

1292
00:56:41,066 --> 00:56:41,476
Okay.

1293
00:56:41,586 --> 00:56:41,916
Awesome.

1294
00:56:42,246 --> 00:56:42,806
Bless you guys.

1295
00:56:42,816 --> 00:56:43,336
See you soon.

1296
00:56:43,336 --> 00:56:43,986
Thanks for joining us.

1297
00:56:43,986 --> 00:56:44,511
Bye for now.

1298
00:56:46,611 --> 00:56:50,391
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1299
00:56:50,741 --> 00:56:55,651
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1300
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1301
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1302
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1303
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1304
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1305
00:57:19,106 --> 00:57:24,126
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1306
00:57:24,586 --> 00:57:30,656
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1307
00:57:30,726 --> 00:57:31,086
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1308
00:57:31,406 --> 00:57:36,006
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1309
00:57:36,016 --> 00:57:41,006
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1310
00:57:41,726 --> 00:57:47,056
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1311
00:57:47,226 --> 00:57:52,246
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1312
00:57:52,426 --> 00:57:53,186
That's it from us.

1313
00:57:53,316 --> 00:57:54,036
God bless you.

1314
00:57:54,676 --> 00:57:55,146
Bye for now.