1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,320 Ralph: Have you ever filed your taxes? 2 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:03,420 Excited to get a nice refund. 3 00:00:03,870 --> 00:00:07,230 Only to find that the amount was much lower than you expected. 4 00:00:07,660 --> 00:00:10,350 Or maybe you even got a bill in the mail from the IRS. 5 00:00:10,830 --> 00:00:13,920 Well today, we're going to talk about what steps you can take when this happens. 6 00:00:14,340 --> 00:00:20,850 I'm also going to share a completely insane story about some clients who had to face this head on. 7 00:00:21,150 --> 00:00:22,619 We'll handle that later in the show. 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:43,500 Intro: Welcome to the Ask Ralph Podcast, where listening to an experienced financial professional with over 30 years of experience can help you make sense of confusing questions, current headlines, and industry trends about taxes, small business, financial decision making, investment strategies, and even the art of proper budgeting. 9 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:50,590 Ask Ralph makes the complex simple by sharing his real world knowledge from a Christian perspective with all things financial. 10 00:00:50,830 --> 00:00:53,379 Now here's your host, Ralph Estep, Jr. 11 00:00:55,601 --> 00:00:57,371 Ralph: Well, welcome to our tax talk Thursday. 12 00:00:57,371 --> 00:00:58,931 I'm so glad you chose to join us. 13 00:00:59,291 --> 00:01:01,931 I just want to thank you for listening and supporting the program. 14 00:01:02,411 --> 00:01:05,921 I'm coming to you from the Estep step farm and the Saggio accounting studio. 15 00:01:06,371 --> 00:01:09,911 Let me put on my podcaster hat put down those overalls. 16 00:01:10,361 --> 00:01:16,001 And slide that adding machine to the side, let's get into some financial wisdom from a Christian perspective. 17 00:01:16,571 --> 00:01:26,561 Today, we're talking about an unpleasant tax time surprise that unfortunately many people have experienced and that's getting a smaller refund than anticipated. 18 00:01:26,861 --> 00:01:30,581 Or even owing taxes when you expected to get a refund. 19 00:01:31,071 --> 00:01:33,771 don't forget to subscribe to the show and join our email list. 20 00:01:34,071 --> 00:01:39,711 You do that at askralphpodcast.com . So you don't miss tomorrow show tomorrow. 21 00:01:39,711 --> 00:01:41,631 We're gonna be talking about annuities. 22 00:01:42,051 --> 00:01:47,241 We're going to talk about what is an annuity and is it a good investment for your particular financial situation? 23 00:01:47,751 --> 00:01:49,431 So you don't want to miss tomorrow show. 24 00:01:50,361 --> 00:01:51,651 I want to remind all of our listeners. 25 00:01:51,651 --> 00:01:54,501 Also, we just launched an insider's group on Facebook. 26 00:01:54,801 --> 00:01:57,111 We're seeing a lot of people out there encouraging. 27 00:01:57,471 --> 00:01:59,871 Each other and sharing information on there. 28 00:02:00,411 --> 00:02:04,671 And I encourage each of you to join the Facebook group, to continue the conversation from the show. 29 00:02:04,671 --> 00:02:07,191 It's a great place to share ideas for the show. 30 00:02:07,551 --> 00:02:11,001 You can discuss your triumphs and also talk about your challenges. 31 00:02:11,451 --> 00:02:15,021 I'll put a link to the Facebook private group in the show notes day. 32 00:02:15,021 --> 00:02:17,121 You just click on that and there you go. 33 00:02:17,624 --> 00:02:21,734 Let's start off with Proverbs chapter 14, verse 23, which reminds us. 34 00:02:22,214 --> 00:02:27,974 In all labor, there is profit, but mere talk leads only to poverty. 35 00:02:28,844 --> 00:02:30,944 As we labor to file accurate tax returns. 36 00:02:30,944 --> 00:02:33,074 We hope to profit from our refunds. 37 00:02:33,554 --> 00:02:36,824 But sometimes talk of big refunds is not matched to reality. 38 00:02:37,154 --> 00:02:39,224 Once those tax returns are filed. 39 00:02:39,764 --> 00:02:42,854 The first thing I'm going to tell you when this happens, first of all, don't panic. 40 00:02:43,364 --> 00:02:48,434 Stay tuned as we explore reasons for you, why your refund may be differ from expectations. 41 00:02:48,884 --> 00:02:50,594 And some proactive steps you can take. 42 00:02:50,594 --> 00:02:51,824 If this happens to you. 43 00:02:52,334 --> 00:02:54,254 So let's address the first question. 44 00:02:54,854 --> 00:02:57,524 Ralph, how does this situation occur? 45 00:02:57,944 --> 00:02:59,564 Well, there are a few common culprits. 46 00:02:59,924 --> 00:03:00,914 Did you receive income? 47 00:03:00,914 --> 00:03:02,114 You forgot to report. 48 00:03:02,384 --> 00:03:05,084 Or underestimate earnings when you prepared your return. 49 00:03:05,714 --> 00:03:11,594 Any unreported or under-reported income means taxes were not fully withheld to cover what you now owe. 50 00:03:12,404 --> 00:03:14,714 Another cause could be claiming deductions or credits. 51 00:03:14,714 --> 00:03:16,604 You're not actually eligible for. 52 00:03:17,054 --> 00:03:19,754 Leading to an inflated refund projection. 53 00:03:20,564 --> 00:03:23,024 There's also life changes like increases in pay. 54 00:03:23,324 --> 00:03:30,914 A new job, unemployment benefits, retirement draws, or social security benefits received could also impact your tax liability. 55 00:03:31,364 --> 00:03:32,684 Speaking of retirement. 56 00:03:33,014 --> 00:03:34,574 This is one a lot of people miss. 57 00:03:35,054 --> 00:03:37,724 Did you pull funds from an IRA or 401k account? 58 00:03:37,724 --> 00:03:41,894 Remember, those retirement plan withdrawals, count as taxable income. 59 00:03:42,494 --> 00:03:42,824 Okay. 60 00:03:42,824 --> 00:03:48,164 So now you've got that lower than expected refund or that shocker tax bill in the mail. 61 00:03:48,614 --> 00:03:49,784 What do I do now? 62 00:03:49,784 --> 00:03:50,144 Ralph? 63 00:03:50,144 --> 00:03:50,984 What's next. 64 00:03:51,524 --> 00:03:53,204 Well first take a deep breath. 65 00:03:53,234 --> 00:03:54,944 And like I said earlier, don't panic. 66 00:03:55,514 --> 00:03:57,974 This is a time to pray for wisdom and guidance. 67 00:03:58,394 --> 00:04:03,374 The book of Philippians chapter four, verse six tells us do not be anxious about anything. 68 00:04:03,914 --> 00:04:08,204 But in everything by prayer and petition with Thanksgiving, present your request to God. 69 00:04:09,074 --> 00:04:18,854 Ask him to clarify on next steps, reach out to your tax preparer, your accountant, or the consulting firms like ours over at Saggio accounting for an audit of your tax return. 70 00:04:19,454 --> 00:04:22,184 We can help you pinpoint where the mismatch occurred. 71 00:04:22,694 --> 00:04:34,184 Doing a thorough review while the facts are still clean and fresh can aid correction request in case of errors or catch other credits or deductions you might qualify for, but neglected to include. 72 00:04:34,424 --> 00:04:38,774 I've seen this many times when a new client will come in, they've got a letter from the IRS. 73 00:04:39,074 --> 00:04:42,764 They've made a correction to their return and the client thinks, oh my gosh. 74 00:04:42,794 --> 00:04:43,934 Now I owe all this money. 75 00:04:44,264 --> 00:04:57,074 And I actually find where they missed some credits, so they are able to offset some of those issues, another smart step is checking your payroll, withholding amounts and adjusting allowances claimed if your life situation has changed. 76 00:04:57,554 --> 00:05:04,074 This is when you want to update your W-4 form, whenever you have major adjustments to income, maybe your family size changed. 77 00:05:04,094 --> 00:05:05,084 Maybe you got a divorce. 78 00:05:05,084 --> 00:05:09,584 Maybe you got married, maybe had a child, maybe a child left the nest. 79 00:05:10,364 --> 00:05:13,244 So that adequate taxes are paid in during the year. 80 00:05:13,244 --> 00:05:17,144 So you don't have that surprise at the end of the year when you're doing your tax return. 81 00:05:17,894 --> 00:05:19,424 And another thing I'm going to stress. 82 00:05:19,844 --> 00:05:30,764 Don't rely on getting that big refund next April, if you receive other income like retirement account withdrawals or freelance work, make quarterly estimated payments to stay ahead. 83 00:05:31,394 --> 00:05:34,154 I did a episode on that just a few days ago. 84 00:05:35,084 --> 00:05:41,594 You want your tax payments and installments across the year, rather than one lump sum, a tax time to avoid those penalties. 85 00:05:41,594 --> 00:05:42,674 As we talked about. 86 00:05:43,244 --> 00:05:46,994 Well suppose your review confirms your refund amount is indeed accurate. 87 00:05:47,444 --> 00:05:48,464 What do I do then? 88 00:05:48,464 --> 00:05:48,944 Ralph? 89 00:05:48,974 --> 00:05:51,434 Well, an unfortunate, but good lesson is learned. 90 00:05:52,034 --> 00:05:57,164 To budget on your actual typical refund amount, rather than some inflated projection. 91 00:05:57,914 --> 00:06:03,164 Make adjustments for next year by updating your withholdings and your estimated tax payments. 92 00:06:03,854 --> 00:06:08,894 The key is continuing to keep accurate records and track your income, track your deductions and credits. 93 00:06:08,894 --> 00:06:10,874 Consider meeting with a financial advisor. 94 00:06:11,294 --> 00:06:17,444 To determine the best savings and wealth creation vehicles for tax optimization based on your situation. 95 00:06:17,444 --> 00:06:21,074 This is where I'm going to tell you to get with somebody like myself, a tax pro. 96 00:06:21,314 --> 00:06:23,384 We're going to look at your particular situation. 97 00:06:23,834 --> 00:06:26,804 And figure out what's best to optimize your situation. 98 00:06:27,644 --> 00:06:32,354 Proverbs 21 verse five tells us the plans of the diligent lead only to plenty. 99 00:06:32,864 --> 00:06:36,104 But those of everyone who is hasty lead only to poverty. 100 00:06:36,674 --> 00:06:39,044 So make diligent planning your ally. 101 00:06:40,214 --> 00:06:46,004 As for this year's budget, look for areas to trim excess spending and redirect those funds toward debt, payments, or savings goals. 102 00:06:46,514 --> 00:06:52,154 The book of Ephesians chapter five, verse 16 reminds us to make the most of our time and resources. 103 00:06:52,754 --> 00:06:56,024 Making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. 104 00:06:56,534 --> 00:06:59,204 This is why creating and sticking to a budget is so key. 105 00:06:59,534 --> 00:07:06,554 And if you end up owing the IRS this year, contact them or your state tax office to set up a reasonable payment plan. 106 00:07:06,974 --> 00:07:11,204 They offer options, tailor made to fit different financial situations. 107 00:07:11,654 --> 00:07:13,064 The truth is folks with God's help. 108 00:07:13,094 --> 00:07:17,414 You can turn what seems like a setback into an opportunity for growth. 109 00:07:18,164 --> 00:07:19,394 And now about that story. 110 00:07:19,994 --> 00:07:22,094 It's about 10 years ago, I had a client come in. 111 00:07:22,094 --> 00:07:24,434 They had received a notice from the IRS. 112 00:07:25,004 --> 00:07:27,074 And the notice said they actually owed. 113 00:07:27,524 --> 00:07:29,324 About $8,000 in tax. 114 00:07:29,324 --> 00:07:31,994 And they looked at me and they said, Ralph, how was this possible? 115 00:07:32,474 --> 00:07:35,354 So I looked at a notice and I looked at their tax return. 116 00:07:35,354 --> 00:07:36,044 Well, guess what? 117 00:07:36,044 --> 00:07:38,024 They had made a huge mistake. 118 00:07:38,474 --> 00:07:41,324 I don't want to bore you with the details of basically what they had done. 119 00:07:41,654 --> 00:07:46,544 Is, they had taken both itemized deductions and the standard deduction. 120 00:07:47,294 --> 00:07:54,704 So they got this $2,000 refund and they were surprised, but they said, oh wow, this is fantastic. 121 00:07:55,364 --> 00:07:58,274 Well turns out when I looked at their tax return. 122 00:07:58,544 --> 00:08:04,154 Not only were they not do that $2,000 refund, they actually owed the IRS. 123 00:08:04,724 --> 00:08:06,224 $8,000. 124 00:08:07,124 --> 00:08:12,224 So think about that folks, they got to 2000 back, but now they actually owed 8,000. 125 00:08:12,854 --> 00:08:16,124 And that was all because of a simple mistake on their tax return. 126 00:08:16,814 --> 00:08:18,344 But they came to me, we fixed it. 127 00:08:18,344 --> 00:08:19,064 We figured it out. 128 00:08:19,064 --> 00:08:20,444 We set them up with a payment plan. 129 00:08:20,774 --> 00:08:23,324 So there are always ways to resolve these issues. 130 00:08:23,324 --> 00:08:25,334 You just can't pretend like it's going to go away. 131 00:08:25,784 --> 00:08:27,344 So let's recap what we've shared today. 132 00:08:27,764 --> 00:08:34,934 If you receive a smaller than anticipated tax refund, or even getting hit with taxes, owed that dreaded notice that says you owe the IRS. 133 00:08:34,934 --> 00:08:38,114 The first thing is to remain calm and take these steps. 134 00:08:38,144 --> 00:08:38,654 Number one. 135 00:08:39,284 --> 00:08:42,824 Review your return thoroughly for any errors or missed deductions. 136 00:08:43,184 --> 00:08:48,944 Contact that person who prepared your taxes, or if you did it yourself, you might want to reach out to somebody like me for assistance. 137 00:08:48,944 --> 00:08:49,664 Number two. 138 00:08:50,054 --> 00:08:55,034 Double check your withholding amounts and adjust as needed based on any life income changes. 139 00:08:55,304 --> 00:08:58,934 It's more of a preventive step to make sure you don't owe at the end of the year. 140 00:08:59,264 --> 00:09:05,114 Number three, make quarterly estimated payments for any side work or non wage income you rely on. 141 00:09:05,384 --> 00:09:10,574 That could be things like a side hustle, or maybe you have interest or dividends or stock sales. 142 00:09:10,964 --> 00:09:13,274 You've got to be planning for that tax burden. 143 00:09:13,274 --> 00:09:14,204 At the end of the year, 144 00:09:14,474 --> 00:09:19,364 number four, redirect excess spending towards savings goals or debt payments. 145 00:09:19,814 --> 00:09:22,004 This is where I'm going to tell you to stick tight to your budget. 146 00:09:22,004 --> 00:09:23,894 You know, I harp about this all the time. 147 00:09:24,194 --> 00:09:26,024 But this is a great time to revisit that. 148 00:09:26,444 --> 00:09:31,034 Number five, for any taxes now owed contact, federal state agencies promptly. 149 00:09:31,184 --> 00:09:32,714 Don't let this go away. 150 00:09:32,714 --> 00:09:36,464 Don't hide it on the place where you store your mail or say, oh, you know what? 151 00:09:36,464 --> 00:09:38,144 I'm just going to let this sit for a while. 152 00:09:38,594 --> 00:09:40,214 You got to act properly. 153 00:09:40,244 --> 00:09:47,504 What I have found is both the federal and the states will work with you to set up a reasonable payment plan that works for your situation. 154 00:09:48,014 --> 00:09:50,714 As Romans chapter eight, verse 28 says. 155 00:09:51,314 --> 00:09:54,314 God works all things together for the good of those who love him. 156 00:09:54,434 --> 00:09:55,964 So you've got to be patient. 157 00:09:56,414 --> 00:09:58,274 And let him guide the process. 158 00:09:58,604 --> 00:10:02,894 And as I always say, stay savvy with those taxes and God bless you. 159 00:10:02,894 --> 00:10:03,524 My friends. 160 00:10:05,224 --> 00:10:08,074 Outro: Thank you for joining us on the AskRalph podcast. 161 00:10:08,204 --> 00:10:11,844 And with a simple click to subscribe, we'll invite you back to our next episode. 162 00:10:12,024 --> 00:10:15,094 And remember, financial issues don't have to be complicated. 163 00:10:15,394 --> 00:10:16,434 Just AskRalph. 164 00:10:16,854 --> 00:10:22,464 The information contained in this episode of AskRalph is based on data available as of the date of its release. 165 00:10:22,524 --> 00:10:25,434 Sagio Accounting Plus and AskRalph Media Inc. 166 00:10:25,594 --> 00:10:28,944 is under no obligation to update this content if changes occur. 167 00:10:29,034 --> 00:10:39,684 Applying this information to your specific situation requires careful consideration of all facts and circumstances, and any information provided is not to be considered as financial, tax, or legal advice. 168 00:10:39,824 --> 00:10:43,774 Please consult your tax advisor or attorney before acting on any material covered.