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Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AAwesome.
Speaker AHello, everybody.
Speaker AI am Jacqueline Strominger.
Speaker AI am the host of the Unstoppable Leadership Spotlight podcast.
Speaker AAnd I'm so excited for our guest today.
Speaker AWe have Ann Huntington Sharma, and she is the president of the Hunting Huntington Learning Center.
Speaker AAnd the name itself just brings warms to my heart because I think of Boston, but that's a whole other scenario.
Speaker ABut I am so excited to have you on the show and to talk to you about education, leadership, the whole nine yards.
Speaker AJust to give you guys a little bit of background.
Speaker AAnn and I were talking beforehand.
Speaker ASo she is originally from New Jersey.
Speaker AShe is now on the west coast coast and more towards the west in South Dakota.
Speaker AThat's more of the middle company, more middle of the country.
Speaker AAnd she is the president.
Speaker AAnd this is a family started as a family business, and you said in 1977.
Speaker ASo this is fantastic.
Speaker AAnd you have over 200 corporate employees, and that's not even to mention the franchise folks that you have.
Speaker ASo welcome to the podcast.
Speaker AI'm so glad to have you here.
Speaker BThank you, Jacqueline.
Speaker BI'm really excited for this conversation.
Speaker AYes, I am.
Speaker AAnd again, beforehand, we were talking about, obviously, leadership, education, and a whole bunch of other things as well.
Speaker ABut talk to me a little bit about your journey into your leadership position and how you got to where you are.
Speaker BGreat question.
Speaker BHuntington Learning center, as you shared, is a family family business started by Eileen and Ray Huntington, who are my parents in 1977.
Speaker BIn terms of Huntington Learning center, it has always been part of who I.
Speaker BI bleed green, though.
Speaker BThat said, if you're a new franchisee, you too bleed green because you're part of Huntington from the national level.
Speaker BAnd each of our locations are independently owned and operated, so we can create leaders within each center.
Speaker BSo back in 1977, nearly 50 years ago, Ray and Eileen started Huntington Learning Center.
Speaker BAnd I like to say I'm center number 17, because when they weren't opening locations, they had children.
Speaker BI have a brother who's not involved with Huntington Learning Center.
Speaker BI decided to become part of the family business.
Speaker BBut my journey to where I am to running Huntington Learning center was not a given.
Speaker BJust because my maiden name is Huntington does not mean that gives me a right to be the president of Huntington Learning Center.
Speaker BSo before joining Huntington, I had a career in a totally different industry.
Speaker BFor a decade, I had a career in the art industry, where I worked at an auction house.
Speaker BI started my own art curatorial company.
Speaker BAnd of course, within family businesses, there are Always conversations about what's going on.
Speaker BSo even as a child, I knew who all of the folks were.
Speaker BI was actually a student at Huntington.
Speaker BAnd then when I had my career within art, I was very much involved behind the scenes in terms of what is happening at Huntington.
Speaker BAnd my parents and I had a very frank conversation in terms of what.
Speaker BWhat is the future.
Speaker BAre you interested in Huntington?
Speaker BIt is a family business.
Speaker BAre you interested in getting involved?
Speaker BAt that point, my brother was involved with the family business.
Speaker BSo I.
Speaker BI jumped on board as a consultant when we were going through a rebranding initiative.
Speaker BBut anything I do, I dive deep.
Speaker BSo from there, I went through our training program.
Speaker BI started as a director.
Speaker BI started getting out into the field, visiting a franchi, figuring out what the pulse of the system was, learning, seeing new opportunities, building out new departments, and taking a lot of the skills that I had learned over that decade plus.
Speaker BAnd of course, through my schooling, I applied that to Huntington.
Speaker BAnd I've been with Huntington now officially for over 10 years.
Speaker BAnd I became Huntington Learning Center's president in 2019.
Speaker BAnd even before I was president, my mantra to the system was and still is, to protect and grow the company.
Speaker BI'm the one of the custodians of it, and that's my job.
Speaker BOf course, when I became president, we were getting ready for 2020.
Speaker BAnd at our convention, I did say that mantra.
Speaker BI said, it's protection and growth.
Speaker BAnd 2020 is clear.
Speaker BWe all put on 3D glasses.
Speaker BWe all know it happened in 2020.
Speaker BAnd that's when I really revved up the whole protection aspect of the brand.
Speaker BAnd now that we're through the COVID times, now we're in that growth mode.
Speaker BSo my journey was not set in stone.
Speaker BIt was through different conversations.
Speaker BAnd even when I became part of Huntington, it was figuring out what's right for the company, what's right for our students, to ensure that our mission continues to give every student the best education possible and what's appropriate for our franchise community.
Speaker BBecause.
Speaker BAnd we are.
Speaker BWe right now are national.
Speaker BHopefully we become international at some point, but we have to ensure that the future for Huntington is secure.
Speaker BSo my path brought me to where I am today because of my.
Speaker BMy leadership strengths, my background, and my drive to really make change, positive change.
Speaker BThat's purposeful, that's great.
Speaker AIt's such a great story.
Speaker AThere's a couple of things that just were coming to my brain as you were talking.
Speaker AAnd it's almost like when you were.
Speaker AWhen you first got there, you were Actually, like the Undercover Boss, you were, like, trying to figure that out and.
Speaker AAnd seeing what was good, the.
Speaker AThe good, the bad, and the ugly.
Speaker AAnd so as you move up, one of the biggest things you often hear, particularly in family businesses, is, and you said you were not given this, you had to earn the respect and the trust of the people that were there.
Speaker ASo tell me, tell us a little bit about how you did that besides just going under and seeing me undercover.
Speaker AUndercover, like being the undercover.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker BThough I look very similar to Eileen and all of our.
Speaker BBefore we went through the rebranding, our centers had an image of me as a child, and I do look very similar.
Speaker BSo I have to really change my appearance.
Speaker BNevertheless, when I started, I was a big bull in a china shop because I wanted to make change right away.
Speaker BI was coming from the art industry, which culturally was very different than how Huntington was set up.
Speaker BSo it was a learning curve for me.
Speaker BI made a lot of people uncomfortable at first because we had tenured folks who were happy and full of pep and liked their routine.
Speaker BThey liked knowing what they were going to do it and how they were going to do it and when they were going to do it.
Speaker BThey understood my parents.
Speaker BThey understood what made them tick.
Speaker BThey understood what the expectations were.
Speaker BAnd then here I came in and I was like, nope, this isn't going to work.
Speaker BIt took me a few years to really understand politics, if you will.
Speaker BI had to get something done.
Speaker BAnd through.
Speaker BThrough time, I was able to really prove out a lot of my hypothesis in terms of people and processes.
Speaker BBut the key really was and is that my parents and I, and when my brother was part of it, he too, he decided to exit.
Speaker BThe company was to be aligned in terms of what are our goals as owners and how are we going to achieve them.
Speaker BAnd I, of course, had to learn really quick that I can't really make friends per se at work because it's.
Speaker BEveryone is trying to figure out an angle.
Speaker BAnd thankfully, that bull in a china shop, I learned as long as we get to the outcome, it doesn't matter how we get there.
Speaker BIt doesn't have to be my idea.
Speaker BI need to surround myself with smarter people who will achieve the goals that need to be achieved.
Speaker BIt was a learning curve, and we have some really great folks.
Speaker BSo I don't want it to sound like I was trying to remove everyone.
Speaker BWe have some folks who have been with us for over 30 years.
Speaker BWe have some folks who just celebrated a 25th anniversary.
Speaker BOur 10 years old awesome.
Speaker BIn terms of the people who are on the team and the impact that they have been able to achieve over the years is really tremendous.
Speaker BBut it's a lot I had to figure out and navigate.
Speaker BHow do I make sure that we focus on our mission?
Speaker BBecause every decision is based off that mission.
Speaker BTo give every student the best education possible.
Speaker BAnd how do I make sure that we're all marching in that direction and make sure that folks know I'm not my mom, I'm not my dad, I am who I am.
Speaker BAnd we have to work together in the way that we have to work together.
Speaker BAnd that's not just my corporate colleagues, it's the franchisees have to understand that, okay, they bought into a system, they believe that system and they understand where their leadership is going for the future.
Speaker AGreat.
Speaker ASo you said a lot of amazing things.
Speaker ASo I have so many questions or that are just awesome.
Speaker AI'm a firm believer and I feel like I talk about this all the time, that leadership starts and it's something that you said, it starts with mission.
Speaker AThen you have to align with the goals.
Speaker AAnd so I feel like you're preaching to the choir here.
Speaker ABut what I'm curious about is you have to sets of, well, actually three technically sets of clients, right?
Speaker AYou've got your franchise people, right?
Speaker AThere's team members there, then you've got the corporate team members and then you have your students, right?
Speaker AAnd so those are all three separate areas, but all team members in different ways you want to put them.
Speaker ASo how do you communicate the mission to all three of those segments, into the segments and how do they differ?
Speaker BSo the mission, regardless of who I'm speaking with, is the same.
Speaker BIt's to give every student the best education possible.
Speaker BAnd now it's trendy to have a mission, right?
Speaker BA mission driven company.
Speaker BWe are, we've been doing it since 1977.
Speaker BSo hats off to my parents.
Speaker BAnd I think it's a testament to why we are still number one.
Speaker BWe are the leading tutoring and test prep company in the nation.
Speaker BWhen speaking with the different population sets.
Speaker BSo you said franchisees, you said the corporate colleagues, employees, and you said students.
Speaker BIt's really understanding what is the driver for those three buckets.
Speaker BI'll call them.
Speaker BSo the franchisees, they come into a system because they want to be able to provide a meaningful impact in their community.
Speaker BThey want to give back and they also want to do well financially.
Speaker BSo we have a vision statement of world class student results and franchisee profitability.
Speaker BSo when speaking with that Bucket, if you will.
Speaker BThose franchisees, it's really ensuring that they understand that they are part of a larger system, that there's a methodology, a proven methodology that works.
Speaker BAnd when that individual follows that, they will do well financially.
Speaker BSo that mission is grounded in help the student who's in front of you, make sure it's the Huntington program and you will do well financially.
Speaker BSo that's to give every student the best education possible.
Speaker BSo you're not just, oh, here's another, I know this.
Speaker BNo, this is a very important moment for you.
Speaker BYou're speaking with a family who's at a critical time.
Speaker BAnd we need to ensure that we have the highest ethical standards to ensure that student does achieve the best education possible.
Speaker BSo that's the first bucket.
Speaker BFrom a colleague perspective, any meeting we have, it's always about the mission to give every student the best education possible.
Speaker BSo any decision that we are making has to be aligned with the mission.
Speaker BAnd that's how we really focus on that mission.
Speaker BAnd it could be someone who's been with the, the company for 33 years or who has been with the company for 30, 33 days or 20 days.
Speaker BI, I just, I'm saying 33 because I have a colleague who just had her that anniversary and her birthday was yesterday too.
Speaker BSo that's why that number is in my head.
Speaker BBut everyone knows that we have a really robust training program.
Speaker BAnd be it a franchisee, a colleague, a, a part time, a teacher, everyone understands that mission.
Speaker BAnd the most important set is the student.
Speaker BThe student needs to come and know that they have come to the right place.
Speaker BThey may have gone to our competitor.
Speaker BThey may never have been able to really have the confidence to believe in themselves.
Speaker BAnd with that mission to give the best education, they now know that, okay, I'm at the right place, it's going to be okay.
Speaker BAnd the cool part about what we do is we can help this student who wants to get into the Ivy League university.
Speaker BWe can also help the student who's trying to get out of special education and into general ed because it's all customized and individualized to the student.
Speaker BSo regardless of where that student is on their academic journey, they are at the right place.
Speaker BAnd that's the mission for them, to give every student the best education possible.
Speaker BSo that's how the mission is true, regardless of what segment, but it would be tailored depending on what the goals are for that segment.
Speaker AThat's fantastic.
Speaker AAnd you said a couple of things and I just absolutely love that because front and center, putting that Mission forward.
Speaker AAnd I truly believe that a lot of times companies write their mission statement and what they're and talk about what they want for their mission and then they write it and then they put it in a book and then they put it aside.
Speaker ABut when you make it front and centered and people can live and breathe it like what you've created, like kudos to you and to your parents for starting that because that does create that longevity and a culture and the people can jump in like they really can attach onto that and.
Speaker AAnd for lack of better word, they're just part of this great journey with you guys and part of that.
Speaker ASo you said each meeting you talk about you have the mission and you're focusing on.
Speaker AIs that something that, like, do you not to make the comparisons like the one thing that just came to my brain, but almost like the pledge of allegiance.
Speaker ADo you start each meeting reading the mission or saying what the mission is?
Speaker BSome meetings, yes.
Speaker BSo we have, for example, every week we have a different lunch and learn that's open to the whole community.
Speaker BAnd every quarter we have a hello from Huntington where I'm speaking to the system and other colleagues are.
Speaker BWe always start that meeting with our mission, our vision, and our corporate goals.
Speaker BWe have three corporate goals there to improve profitability at the center, increase unit count and streamline business processes.
Speaker BIn those meetings, we have it front and center on the PowerPoint.
Speaker BIf it's a management meeting, usually we do have a slide on that.
Speaker BI'll kick off the meeting and ground us in that.
Speaker BWe also not in every meeting, but I would say in the majority of our meetings, we start with a success story in terms of here's something that just happened at a certain center just to ground it, to remind us why we're doing what we're doing.
Speaker ANo, I love that.
Speaker ASharing that success story.
Speaker AOkay, so speaking of successes, a lot of times leadership people talk about there's usually an aha moment that they had that there was a turning point where they went from maybe something not so great to something like, oh my God, here.
Speaker ASo what was your turning point?
Speaker AAha.
Speaker ATrajectory moment when I realized I couldn't.
Speaker BBe the bull in the china shop.
Speaker BAnd I realized that I had to do it my way and I needed the trust from my parents.
Speaker BSo I was building out a new program and my.
Speaker BI was reporting to my mom at the time and she wanted it a very particular way.
Speaker BAnd I said, and I was trying it and I was doing okay, but I wasn't doing at the level I'm used to.
Speaker BSo I had to have a really frank conversation with her and I said, give me time, let me try it my way.
Speaker BIf it doesn't work, I'll go back to your way.
Speaker BAnd with that trust, I was able to knock it out of the park.
Speaker BI was able to show her look, there are a lot of different ways to get to the same solution.
Speaker BAnd when working, especially with parents, I'm their daughter, right?
Speaker BYou can't change that.
Speaker BLike my dad might say a comment that I'm just like, oh dad.
Speaker BLike I don't call him dad at work, I call him Ray.
Speaker BBut the reality is I am their daughter.
Speaker BSo how do you then step out of that and then show that look, I'm also a colleague, I'm also a board member and I'm an owner.
Speaker BSo how do I ensure that we're all speaking the same way?
Speaker BSo that aha moment was really when I was able to show myself and Huntington at large who I am.
Speaker BAnd again, I had all the backing before Huntington, all the success before that and all the projects I do outside of Huntington.
Speaker BSo I really had to show who Ann Huntington charmer was and why I'm here and why am I leading the charge and why do you have belief in me?
Speaker BSo it's that aha almost confidence of I got this, I've been trained for this and now let me go.
Speaker BBut don't be the ball in the china shop per se.
Speaker AOne thing I wanted to ask you about is you got 200 corporate employees we were talking before and about the longevity of the people that had been been there with you and mission I think is so important.
Speaker ABut how do you keep the that culture going?
Speaker AAnd that because that's so important and I.
Speaker AAnd so I'm curious because I think that's a true insight that you could share with our listeners because 200 employees with the longevity, you don't see that a lot today.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BAnd you know, so before COVID So we're coming up on our fifth year anniversary in these post Covid times.
Speaker BBefore COVID we were in person, very conservative, sometimes wore jeans on a Friday, suit, tie.
Speaker BAnd then now we are remote.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo five years into remote.
Speaker BI don't believe any company has figured out what the blueprint is for a remote culture to live and breathe it fully.
Speaker BBut from our perspective, it's making sure that it's a zoom meeting or a teams meeting, that we're present, that there are different check ins, that sometimes it's picking up the phone and having it via telephone versus doing a zoom call.
Speaker BIt's also to have opportunities to be in person, if that's possible.
Speaker BSo we have regional meetings.
Speaker BWe have specific meetings for the management team, some of which are remote and some are in person.
Speaker BWe last this.
Speaker BThis year in February, we started a whole new IT arm.
Speaker BWe have our regular IT department, which is going through a transformation with our legacy systems, and then leveraging everything that's happening in AI.
Speaker BWe started a whole new IT division in February.
Speaker BSo we met in person to make sure that, okay, no one's met.
Speaker BHow do we ensure that we're all align, that we all know why we're doing this, who we are?
Speaker BSo it's having those touch points, regardless if you're in a remote world or you're in person, that you're building out that sense of culture, that sense of understanding that my job is part of something larger.
Speaker BAnd it's always going back to that.
Speaker BIn terms of marketing, it's grounding.
Speaker BWe just did a whole new marketing campaign that's rolling out, and it's stepping back and talking to the marketing folks and saying, okay, we have to ensure that this works, because this is.
Speaker BIf a franchisee uses this, they are putting their dollars out there, and they need to ensure students are seeing it.
Speaker BSo it's peeling back the onion to show that every single role works to something larger, to a greater good.
Speaker BSo, again, being remote has changed us over the past four, almost five years.
Speaker BAnd like I said, I don't think anyone has figured it out fully, but we have a really strong foundation and a strong understanding in terms of what needs to happen to ensure that our franchisees are successful and our students are successful.
Speaker ANo, that's.
Speaker AActually.
Speaker AThat's.
Speaker AAnd I love what you just said about each role serves actually something that's like the greater good.
Speaker AThere's.
Speaker AEverybody has to grasp that from everybody, from the.
Speaker AWhether it's the person who's cleaning the offices all the way up.
Speaker AOne of the things that we talked a little bit about before, before the start of the podcast, education in the school system, education that you guys have, and leadership.
Speaker AWhat do you see?
Speaker ALike, how do you see those two meeting together?
Speaker BI think one of the beautiful things about Huntington, we've been doing this for nearly five decades.
Speaker BWe've seen a lot of change, positive and maybe not so positive within the whole education arena.
Speaker BWhere we see us being value add is really creating partnerships with schools, nonprofits, organizations who need to help their students.
Speaker BAnd for the most part, everyone's a good person, right?
Speaker BA teacher does not want the students to fail, per se.
Speaker BYou hope not.
Speaker BBut if a class size.
Speaker BIf a class size is 30 plus, that teacher needs to get through certain curricula.
Speaker BSo that's where we can help.
Speaker BAnd we can build out different programs for the schools, and we have great success with that.
Speaker BAnd we have a whole division that's a public private partnership division to really help bridge the education gap that we know is greater than ever coming out of COVID and families, parents specifically, or whoever the caregiver is, has more transparency in terms of what's actually happening because they were able to see what was happening or was not happening during COVID From our perspective, there have been a lot of changes over the decades.
Speaker BAnd we can help.
Speaker BWe can help with the district, with the local charter school.
Speaker BWe can help with the nonprofit.
Speaker BWe're agnostic.
Speaker BSo our goal, and it sounds cheesy, but our goal is to help every student get the best education possible, however they come to us.
Speaker AAnd I think probably something that's important to that is to get the best education possible for each of them because each student is so different.
Speaker AAnd I think that's something.
Speaker AWhat you shared is that it's a customized.
Speaker AIt's customized.
Speaker AAnd I think that's so important for students because you might be a visual learner and I might be great at reading something, but.
Speaker AOr I might be a great visual.
Speaker AI need the combination.
Speaker AI still laugh remembering the science teacher who drew the four red hemaglu in the shopping cart on the science board right when I was a kid.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker ASo everybody learns differently.
Speaker AAnd so to be able to have that and to create that partnership is.
Speaker AIt's really fantastic.
Speaker AAnd what are your challenges that you're facing?
Speaker AWe're about to go into a new year.
Speaker ASo from a leadership standpoint, what's one.
Speaker AWhat's the big challenge that you're facing in the year or that you.
Speaker BTime.
Speaker BI need.
Speaker BI need more time.
Speaker BThat's my biggest challenge.
Speaker BAnd I don't know if anyone has figured that one out.
Speaker BSo time is the biggest challenge from a corporate standpoint, I think of it as more of an opportunity where how can we make such an impact?
Speaker BSo we are a legacy company.
Speaker BWe're going through transformation across the board.
Speaker BWe are continuously investing for the future, but it takes time to roll out certain programs.
Speaker BSo one of the biggest challenges is to ensure that all the projects and initiatives that we're working on are going to roll out successfully.
Speaker BThey're going to have adoption by the system that they're going to show the same efficacy, if not better, in terms of student outcomes.
Speaker BThe biggest challenge right now is going through that transformation and ensuring that we knock it out of the park.
Speaker BAnd it's really.
Speaker BIt's a positive challenge.
Speaker BAnd then on top of that, we need more Huntington Learning Centers.
Speaker BWe need to help more students.
Speaker BWe need folks to open a business for themselves, but not by themselves.
Speaker BThat's the mantra in franchising.
Speaker BIt's part of the American dream to be a business owner.
Speaker BAnd we are such a great opportunity for that individual.
Speaker BSo another challenge is how do we help folks see that Huntington is an opportunity and help them open as quick and efficiently and cost efficiently as possible so they can make an impact in their community.
Speaker AThat's.
Speaker AThat is really great.
Speaker AAnd I just love what you're doing.
Speaker AI love the Huntington Learning Center.
Speaker AI love the fact that you've had this longevity.
Speaker AAnd I do think that one of the things that you had shared was to go international.
Speaker ADefinitely see that.
Speaker ABecause it learning is we always have to keep learning no matter what our age is.
Speaker AAnd it's like one of those things that I feel like we can't tell our kids enough too.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AWe can't press upon that enough and tell the audience how they can connect with you, find you, get more of your wisdom, maybe grab a franchise.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker BSo if someone's interested in reaching out to me, I'm Ann Huntington Sharma.
Speaker BI'm on link for Huntington Learning Center.
Speaker BWe can help your student if you're in K through 12 with tutoring and test prep.
Speaker BYou can call us at 1-800-COIN or you can visit our website, which is huntingtonhelps.com if you're interested in a franchise, it's huntingtonfranchise.com and we hope that we can help you in wherever you are in your journey.
Speaker AOh, that is fantastic.
Speaker ASo thank you so much.
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