Morgan:

We need to talk about ideas, good ones and bad ones.

Morgan:

We need to learn stuff about the world.

Morgan:

We need an honest, intelligent, thought provoking, and entertaining

Morgan:

review of what the hell happened on this planet in the last seven days.

Morgan:

We need to sit back and listen to the Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove.

Trevor:

Yes.

Trevor:

What?

Trevor:

What happened in the last seven days?

Trevor:

I'll tell you what happened.

Trevor:

Suddenly newspapers, politicians suddenly decided, enough is enough

Trevor:

in Gaza, and it, it became okay to demand that things change, whereas

Trevor:

up until this point it didn't.

Trevor:

So a strange.

Trevor:

Turn of events that suddenly starvation was enough to tip the scales and

Trevor:

people could, these people who had been very silent on the matter

Trevor:

suddenly became, uh, a lot more vocal.

Trevor:

Anyway, I'm Trevor.

Trevor:

AKA, the Iron Fist over there in regional Queensland's.

Trevor:

Scott, the Velvet Glove.

Trevor:

How are you, Scott?

Scott:

Gday Trevor.

Scott:

Gday, Joe.

Scott:

Gday listeners.

Scott:

I hope everyone's doing well,

Trevor:

man.

Trevor:

Joe, the tech guy is back as well.

Trevor:

Hey, Neil.

Trevor:

Yes, if you join us in the chat room, say hello.

Trevor:

We will endeavor to incorporate your comments as we, as we work our way

Trevor:

through the agenda, which again, dear listener, is gonna be Gaza focused,

Trevor:

which we've been on about for months now.

Trevor:

But hey, it's not every, it's not every year, decade that you have

Trevor:

a, an openly televised genocide event like we have in Gaza.

Trevor:

And, and then also just the, the obvious media bias from different

Trevor:

places and will examine that as well.

Trevor:

And, um.

Trevor:

It's quite instructive as to the state of Western civilization, like whole

Trevor:

Gaza episode beside it just being a terrible thing for the people in Gaza,

Trevor:

but just as an observer of Western civilization and the reactions to it.

Trevor:

That's fascinating.

Trevor:

I find so, so, yeah.

Trevor:

Um, and maybe a bit of Trump

Trevor:

as usual mm-hmm.

Trevor:

A little bit of the President of America for light relief.

Trevor:

Yes.

Joe:

At the end.

Joe:

Isn't that the song, the Genocide will not be televised?

Joe:

Is there a song that No, it's, the Revolution will not be televised.

Joe:

Oh, okay.

Joe:

So, um,

Trevor:

so yeah.

Trevor:

So there, there we go.

Trevor:

So look, um, I feel that the tide has turned and, mm-hmm.

Trevor:

For example, the BBC had been very silent about this.

Trevor:

Suddenly a headline, more than a hundred a agencies say,

Trevor:

masturbation spreading across Gaza.

Trevor:

Um, Ursula vole from the eu.

Trevor:

Civilians cannot be targets, never.

Trevor:

The images from Gaza are unbearable.

Trevor:

The EU re reiterates its call for the free, safe and swift

Trevor:

flow of aid, blah, blah, blah.

Trevor:

Um, somebody like her would've been a classic example of somebody who

Trevor:

would've said, oh, Israel has a right to defend itself and don't

Trevor:

use the G word daily Express.

Trevor:

You know, pictures a, a picture of a starving kid for pity's sake.

Trevor:

Stop this now.

Trevor:

And, um, so yeah, starvation guys seems to be the tipping point.

Trevor:

Do you.

Trevor:

Had the same feeling I do.

Trevor:

That that's, there's been a difference or am I dreaming?

Scott:

Uh, no.

Scott:

There has definitely been a difference.

Scott:

Like you've got Kia Star, you've got, um, what's his name in Canada,

Scott:

whose name always escapes me.

Scott:

And you've also got Macron.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

They've all called, they've all basically, well, the only one that hasn't, the only

Scott:

one that didn't go a hundred percent behind recognizing Palestine was Britain,

Scott:

where they said, unless Israel does X, Y, Z, which they're not going to do, we're

Scott:

going to recognize Palestine in September.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

You know, and I just think to myself that the world has had a gut fall now, and

Scott:

they just said, well, enough's enough, you've gotta actually do something.

Scott:

If you don't do something, we're gonna recognize Palestine, which

Scott:

means that Palestine's gonna get membership of the United Nations.

Scott:

And you can't actually, you can't actually take on a sovereign state.

Scott:

Which is one of the things that Israel will have to actually contend with now.

Trevor:

I think they'll take on anybody.

Trevor:

Isn't that they're shown?

Trevor:

Well, they

Scott:

will actually take on, they will actually try and take them on,

Scott:

but the international community could actually say, no, you can't do that.

Scott:

You know, you've gotta back away.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

They'll just continue to ignore it.

Scott:

Yeah, they probably will.

Scott:

Anyway.

Scott:

Yeah, it's just one of those things.

Scott:

I just think to myself, it, it's another, think it's a sign from the

Scott:

Western world that we've had a gut full.

Joe:

Can they not take 'em to the ICJ if they're a member state?

Joe:

And what does membership give them?

Joe:

Recognition.

Joe:

Give them

Scott:

Well recognition probably gives them the ability to take them, take

Scott:

them to the ICJ if they wanted to,

Trevor:

but, you know, getting these people in front of these courts

Trevor:

when America is gonna sanction anybody who tries to do that mm-hmm.

Trevor:

And throw them in jail and reserve the right to militarily enter any

Trevor:

prison that might be set up and bring these people out again, that's not

Trevor:

gonna, that's not gonna do anything.

Trevor:

I wouldn't have thought.

Trevor:

But there's definitely a change of sentiment.

Trevor:

Um,

Joe:

I, I think America might find itself very, very lonely if it

Joe:

decided to invade the Netherlands.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

But you know what, they'll, they've been sanctioning key people mm-hmm.

Trevor:

In these UN groups, and nobody cares.

Trevor:

So, you know, the people involved in these prosecutions and calling for Netanyahu to

Trevor:

be brought before the court, and people like, uh, Francesca Albanese have been

Trevor:

sanctioned by the Americans and given half a chance they confiscate their bank

Trevor:

accounts, obviously refuse to let them into America, which might be a bonus.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

But, but wherever they can, um, make life extremely tough for them.

Trevor:

So,

Trevor:

yeah.

Trevor:

You know, um, there is that, so it's, it's just, um, it's just, we, it's

Trevor:

shocking to me that this is what it took was the starvation angle

Trevor:

that suddenly people were turning around and saying, enough is enough.

Trevor:

I reckon they've got half an eye to history and they have a feeling that.

Trevor:

Historians are, or people are gonna start looking around and saying, why

Trevor:

didn't you condemn what was happening?

Trevor:

And now they're putting out some words of condemnation to sort of

Trevor:

something to hang their hat on.

Trevor:

When people start pointing the fingers in years to come and saying,

Trevor:

you haven't done enough, you didn't do enough when you were in power.

Trevor:

And they can say, oh, you know, uh, around the, um, 4th of August, I, uh, I made some

Trevor:

statements that were condemning Israel.

Joe:

Well, it's looking very much like the Warsaw ghetto

Trevor:

now.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Joe:

More than any other time.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

So, just given, given so many images of kids blowing up, kids having parts

Trevor:

amputated without anesthetic, none of this is controversial in terms of evidence.

Trevor:

Like we've got the whole thing with kids being shot at.

Trevor:

In the genitals on purpose on certain days.

Trevor:

Actually, I think I've got a clip on this.

Trevor:

Let me just, uh, hang on.

Trevor:

Find this one.

Trevor:

Uh, yeah, I'll play this one about, about, about baby formula

Trevor:

and about kids being shot.

Trevor:

Here we go.

Dr:

Lots of doctors I know who have taken in formula feed because they

Dr:

knew there was such a shortage.

Dr:

None has been allowed in by the Israelis since the last time.

Dr:

If you go through a checkpoint, you get searched as a doctor, and

Dr:

if you've got any baby formula in your pockets or in your bag,

Dr:

they will confiscate it from you.

Dr:

Very specifically confiscating that.

Dr:

Nothing else.

Dr:

I cannot think of any reason why they would confiscate form feed.

Dr:

There was a very clear pattern of injuries, a cluster of injuries to

Dr:

specific body parts on particular days.

Dr:

So one day for example, we'd see.

Dr:

Patients coming in with gunshot wounds just to the head and neck on another day.

Dr:

They'd be coming in with gunshot wounds to the chest or the abdomen the next

Dr:

day, the legs on one day, about 12 days ago, we saw four young teenage

Dr:

boys, 13, 14, all of whom had been shot specifically in the testicles.

Dr:

Goodness man.

Dr:

So the, the, the very clear clustering of these injuries appeared

Dr:

to us like a, a target practice.

Dr:

Again,

Trevor:

all common knowledge, none of that was enough.

Trevor:

It requires staffing, pictures of staffing kids, but um,

Trevor:

yeah, baby formula particularly targeted

Scott:

well.

Trevor:

Drones.

Trevor:

Drones that play the sounds of babies crying so that people come out

Trevor:

and investigate and then get shot.

Trevor:

Policy terrorists would come

Joe:

out and investigate,

Trevor:

you know, something like that where you've got an obvious British doctor

Trevor:

of some sort amongst dozens and dozens of foreign medics who have been in done work,

Trevor:

got out and reported on what's happened.

Trevor:

It's, it's clearly, um, good.

Trevor:

Uh, but they were

Joe:

shot by Hamas.

Joe:

You see, it was a false flag.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

Clearly people like this, there's enough of them saying the same thing

Trevor:

there without any reason to lie.

Trevor:

Um, reporting on these things, it's not like we haven't known about these things.

Trevor:

No.

Trevor:

But the, the news is being complicit.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

But our leaders should

Scott:

have known, well, our leaders would've, would've known

Scott:

about it, and they decided not to share it with the public, I think.

Scott:

Wow.

Scott:

Or they've ignored those, you know, they've ignored things like

Scott:

the John UE blog that was actually trying to say something about it.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

They've probably been ignoring, I think Crikeys also been saying a

Scott:

fair bit about it too, haven't they?

Trevor:

They have.

Trevor:

I'll get onto a little bit of that.

Trevor:

Um,

Scott:

and also I, I've noticed that, um, 7:00 AM which I listen to every

Scott:

day, that has not turned in the last couple of weeks, but it has got more.

Scott:

There's certainly louder presence of the whole Gaza thing right now on there.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Anyway.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

So our Australian government, um, signed a statement urging Israel to

Trevor:

end the war in the enclave now, and lift restrictions on the flow of aid.

Trevor:

The Gaza Strip and the statement also condemned her mass.

Trevor:

Um, and also at some point, uh, the Australian government was sort of

Trevor:

queried by the greens, I think Scott, on our supplying of spare parts for

Trevor:

the F 35 jet fighters that Israel is using to, um, attack the Gaza Strip.

Trevor:

Good news though, Scott, is that the parts that we were supplying for the

Trevor:

fighter jets were the non-lethal parts.

Trevor:

I'll just play a bit of that.

Wong:

As part of the global F 35 supply chain, we contribute components and

Wong:

parts that are non lethal in nature.

Wong:

Thank you, minister.

Wong:

Non-lethal, non-lethal in nature.

Shoebridge:

Thank you, minister.

Shoebridge:

I'm just trying to imagine the, the, the non-lethal bits of an F 35 fighter jet.

Joe:

Like idiot.

Joe:

Everything apart from the bullets and the missiles,

Trevor:

they just treat us like complete

Joe:

idiots,

Trevor:

don't they?

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

I think we do something with a door that, a Bay of a Bombay, and it's

Trevor:

something to do with the mechanism that opens the door to drop the bombs.

Joe:

Right?

Trevor:

Apparently one of the non-lethal, actually, I think,

Trevor:

I think I might have it here.

Trevor:

Um, um, uh, no I don't have that, but I think it was something to do with that.

Trevor:

So, so yeah, that's what the Australian government is doing.

Trevor:

Uh, making a few motherhood statements about how terrible it is and then

Trevor:

continuing to supply parts that enable Israel to keep doing this.

Trevor:

Um, the opposition wasn't happier though.

Trevor:

Alia Cash.

Trevor:

She said the, uh, Australian government stance by condemning

Trevor:

Israel and urging Israel to end the war now, and to lift restrictions.

Trevor:

She disa, antisemetic disappointed.

Trevor:

What's that?

Trevor:

She said it was anti-Semitic.

Trevor:

Uh, well, she said it was disappointing that once again, the Albany government is

Trevor:

supporting a statement attacking Israel.

Trevor:

She said,

Joe:

well, if they deserve to be attacked, why not?

Joe:

Because one of their allies, judge, that is verbally attacked.

Joe:

But yeah.

Joe:

But if your allies are doing something wrong, you don't just

Joe:

bury your head in the sand.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Well, what did Sky News have to say?

Trevor:

Here we go.

Sky:

Hey, the Albanese government joined other jelly backed governments.

Sky:

And issued a statement highly critical of our ally Israel, a

Sky:

country that's fighting for its very existence in a war against Hamas.

Sky:

It didn't start.

Sky:

And while it suffered missile attacks from Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis

Sky:

from Yemen and directly from Iran, this statement calls for a ceasefire

Sky:

effectively demanding that Israel stop pursuing Humma, even while a ceasefire

Sky:

approved by Israel has been on the table for hammas to accept since last,

Trevor:

yeah, just on the ceasefire thing, like Kamar said ages ago, um, we'll

Trevor:

give up the prisoners, but you have to leave and it's an immediate ceasefire.

Trevor:

We won't have anything to do with any future role in Gaza, but it's gonna be

Trevor:

an immediate and permanent ceasefire.

Trevor:

And the Israelis were wanting a 60 day ceasefire, which meant that they could

Trevor:

just resume things again afterwards.

Trevor:

So, so our masters offered everything that anybody wants.

Trevor:

It's just that Israel wanted a 60 day ceasefire and of course we're

Trevor:

just gonna start continuing on after that, that get prison back

Scott:

60 days.

Scott:

Yeah.

Trevor:

So,

Joe:

and it wasn't a 60 day ceasefire and aid can flow.

Trevor:

Probably not now that detail alludes me.

Trevor:

Yeah, so,

Joe:

so in 60 days they'd be even more starving and weak, so

Joe:

all the better to attack them.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

Scott, what'd you think of the Sydney Harbor Bridge?

Trevor:

March?

Scott:

No, it was fine.

Scott:

I didn't have anything, I didn't have any complaints with it

Scott:

or anything else, you know?

Scott:

Um, Scott, that's not the response.

Scott:

Why?

Trevor:

It was just you didn't have any complaints about it?

Trevor:

Like, no.

Scott:

Okay.

Scott:

Did you think

Trevor:

it was a good

Scott:

thing?

Scott:

Well, 90,000 people turned up.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Scott:

You know, and they came out during, they came out in

Scott:

the rain and everything else.

Scott:

So I just think to myself that there was probably more that would've

Scott:

attended if the rain hadn't have been pissing down the way it was.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

There were some, you know, there, there is some reports that some of

Scott:

them were carrying, um, Taliban flags and that type of thing, but, you know,

Scott:

you've gotta expect that, um, you know,

Joe:

expect that from Sky News to make up shit.

Scott:

I don't know.

Joe:

I, I saw the comments under some report, news report about.

Joe:

Uh, 90,000 people and there were comments like, oh, I wish the bridge had collapsed.

Joe:

And hope Israel's taking notes, uh, to know who to kill in the future.

Joe:

And my God, that many Lebs who let them into the country, um,

Joe:

the level of, the level of xenophobia that anyone who's at that march

Joe:

must be a foreigner Arab 'cause.

Joe:

No ordinary, a Australian would think that genocide was a bad thing and turn up,

Scott:

oh no, there are, there are a hell of a lot of idiots in this country.

Scott:

You know, and I think you've been here long enough to understand that we do have

Scott:

a hell of a lot of idiots in this country.

Scott:

You know?

Scott:

Um, every country does.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

No.

Scott:

Anyway, it's just, um, but no, I had no complaints with

Scott:

the, with the bridge protest.

Scott:

Why?

Scott:

What did I miss?

Trevor:

Well, I just wondered whether you thought it was a good thing that.

Trevor:

That so many people came out and said, enough's enough.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

It was a good thing.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

You know?

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

If there was a protest up here in Mackay, would've gone to it, but there wasn't.

Scott:

Mm. You know, and you know, I admit I'm not the first to actually go out

Scott:

there waving flags or anything else.

Trevor:

Hmm.

Scott:

Because I think that people would throw rocks at me

Scott:

if I started it up here anyway.

Trevor:

Well, Scott, I wonder what Andrew Bolt, you are probably wondering

Trevor:

what Andrew Bolt thought of it.

Scott:

I've long since stopped caring what Andrew Bolt has to say.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

So he's, do you appear on Sky News or was in new's?

Scott:

Um, well, he wrote

Trevor:

an article, uh, in the Australian, it was the Australian,

Trevor:

in one of the Murdoch press ones.

Trevor:

The heading of, which was March is proof that Sikh Hamas tactics working.

Trevor:

The opening paragraph was.

Trevor:

Yesterday was a day of, this is talking about the, the, the march

Trevor:

over the Sydney Harbor bridge.

Trevor:

Yesterday was a day of national shame as pro-Palestinian protestors backed by

Trevor:

a wrongheaded judge hijacked the Sydney Harbor bridge to cause chaos and make

Trevor:

common calls with a mass terrorists.

Joe:

I, I don't know that saying genocide is bad, is making calls

Joe:

with a bunch of terrorists.

Trevor:

Wow.

Trevor:

Whatever the protestors thought they were doing this shameless barbarity

Trevor:

is what they're encouraging more war and the survival of the world's

Trevor:

cruelest Jew haters that are judged.

Trevor:

Help them by rejecting police.

Trevor:

Please.

Trevor:

To ban the Harbor Bridge March just shows the depth of our moral confusion.

Trevor:

This asshole goes on a massive rant and reckons everybody

Trevor:

else is morally confused.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Uh, the judge actually said, um, something along the lines

Trevor:

that it's in the very nature of the right of peaceful protest, that

Trevor:

disruption will be caused to others.

Trevor:

Um, and, and Andrew Bolt says, really, this seems to confuse the right to

Trevor:

protest with a right to bully, um, hold the protest at a beach or park, and

Trevor:

almost nobody would be inconvenienced.

Trevor:

But these protesters chose to protest at one of the most inconvenient

Trevor:

places of all, obviously to annoy as many people as possible.

Joe:

I wasn't inconvenienced,

Trevor:

uh,

Trevor:

what does he go on here?

Trevor:

Um, I know yesterday's protesters include many who actually meant well.

Trevor:

But do they think, well, this war in Gaja was actually started

Trevor:

by Hamas when it slaughtered.

Trevor:

Yes.

Trevor:

In

Joe:

1948, they invaded is, uh, Israel, didn't they?

Joe:

This is the thing.

Trevor:

It started by Hamas when it slaughtered 1200 Israelis

Trevor:

and kidnapped 2 51 people.

Trevor:

This did not start on October 7th.

Trevor:

No, it started 70 years earlier.

Trevor:

Hmm.

Trevor:

And if people think, oh, what AMA did was terrible, and everything Israel's done

Trevor:

is justified by that act, you could pluck out dozens of incidents where Israel did

Trevor:

things to Palestinians that were worse.

Trevor:

And you could say, well then that must justify what the Palestinians do.

Trevor:

But of course, you'd have to be prepared to empathize and.

Trevor:

Think of outside your own tribal lines in order to do that, which

Trevor:

is way too much for so many people.

Trevor:

Ah, what have we got here?

Trevor:

Still from Andrew Bolt.

Trevor:

Some protestors will say they simply want Israel to let in more food to Gaza.

Trevor:

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese himself has said he was moved by a picture on

Trevor:

the front page of the age of an emaciated Mohamed Zacharia, an alleged example of

Trevor:

children being stard to death by Israel.

Joe:

But in fact, but what he didn't realize is actually he's a member of ama

Trevor:

that the kid.

Trevor:

Yes.

Trevor:

Well, what he goes on to talk about is that is this kid whose picture appeared

Trevor:

on some international newspapers.

Trevor:

The allegation is that the kid had some sort of preexisting medical

Trevor:

condition and wasn't starving.

Trevor:

So, um, so that's the sort of.

Trevor:

A thing going around is, oh, there's not actually kids starving in Gaza.

Trevor:

See that kid there that they held up as an example.

Trevor:

He has a preexisting medical condition that meant that's why he's like that.

Trevor:

And this is disingenuous by the mainstream, you know,

Trevor:

by media who present this.

Scott:

Oh, that crap.

Trevor:

Good friends of mine are posting reposting shit like that.

Trevor:

But they're no longer good friends.

Trevor:

I guess they're old acquaintances.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Are reprinting this sort of shitty article calling into question

Trevor:

whether there are starving people in Gaza or not, because they claim the

Trevor:

picture of this kid was not a starving kid, he had some medical condition.

Joe:

Well this is Trump, but it's, it's prior to Trump.

Joe:

It's, it's the complete, basically muddy the water.

Joe:

Give a counterfactual, whether it's true or not, doesn't matter because those

Joe:

people who are politically motivated to believe it will accept that as evidence.

Joe:

Yep.

Joe:

And will ignore the other side.

Scott:

Well, just looking at that kid on the Daily Express,

Scott:

he certainly looks at the very least malnourished.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

Now he's probably starving, but yeah.

Scott:

At the very least, he's malnourished.

Scott:

And you know, the only thing he hasn't got is the distended belly, which, you

Scott:

know, you often see with, um, kids.

Scott:

I've seen that in

Joe:

other photos.

Scott:

You have seen that in other photos.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Okay.

Scott:

No worries.

Scott:

It, it's,

Scott:

if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a bloody duck.

Scott:

You know, it, it's, well, clearly if that kid does have a

Scott:

preexisting medical condition, the lack of food is making it worse.

Trevor:

So I think there's a few possibilities.

Trevor:

Say again?

Trevor:

I think there's a few possibilities.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

So one is the kid is dying from, uh, a lack of medicine, the correct medicine.

Trevor:

We've gotta remember they're not only banning, you know, food and baby formula

Trevor:

coming into the area, but also medicine.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

So it's entirely possible, even if it is a medical condition that he's

Trevor:

suffering because the he's in the right medication isn't getting in.

Trevor:

Alternatively, he's dying from lack of food and starving.

Trevor:

But the other one is, okay, he's not dying at all.

Trevor:

But is anyone else dying from starvation?

Trevor:

Like these people with these articles who are saying this is misleading.

Trevor:

They, they don't say it outright, but they're really kind of suggesting

Trevor:

that there is no starvation in caza.

Trevor:

And it's just shameful of these people.

Trevor:

Like

Trevor:

the Israeli government has made it clear that's what they're trying to do.

Trevor:

Mm. The actual alleged perpetrators are saying, we're trying to

Trevor:

starve these people to death.

Trevor:

Why can't we believe them?

Trevor:

And it's like, oh, it's terrible.

Trevor:

If you would think that Israel would do the case, would've done that.

Trevor:

Well, that's their stated aim.

Trevor:

That's what their leaders are telling us they're trying to do.

Trevor:

I'm just over these people who are intelligent people

Trevor:

sitting on the sidelines here in Australia looking at this.

Trevor:

And they're so tribal that they have, they're just willing to overlook

Trevor:

the obvious, um, to support Israel.

Trevor:

Hmm.

Trevor:

Caitlyn Johnston says, I'm having trouble finding the words to talk about the

Trevor:

people who are scurrying around, lying and manipulating to excuse the deliberate

Trevor:

starvation of civilians in Gaza today.

Trevor:

Evil doesn't cut it.

Trevor:

Monster and psychopath are too kind.

Trevor:

How do these people live with themselves?

Joe:

I think the same thing.

Joe:

Well, the people who are making up the, the false rumors.

Joe:

Yes.

Joe:

The people who are latching onto them are just looking for an excuse

Joe:

to justify their political point.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Joe:

And I don't think they're thinking much of it.

Trevor:

They're thinking, we are idiots.

Trevor:

We're thinking we're gullible idiots who just Oh, the people who are making up the

Joe:

bullshit.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

And the people who are repeating it think we're idiots.

Trevor:

We're just gullible idiots who have swallowed the left wing propaganda and.

Trevor:

Want Hama to win and don't recognize that poor Israel will be

Trevor:

overrun by, um, Muslim extremists.

Trevor:

They'll all be killed.

Trevor:

So Israel had no other choice but to do this like that, that's

Trevor:

the line that they would run.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Speaking of starvation, uh, a FP reports, its reporters still on site in Gaza are

Trevor:

currently dying from hunger, and the, uh, a FP was founded in 1944 and says,

Trevor:

we have lost journalists in conflicts.

Trevor:

We've had wounded and prisoners in our ranks, but none of us has the memory of

Trevor:

having seen a collaborator die of hunger.

Trevor:

So that's actual journalists, guys, as you know, are they

Scott:

Palestinian journalists and starving?

Trevor:

Uh, they have to be because, um, no foreign journalists were

Trevor:

allowed into the country unless they were already in there, Scott.

Scott:

Okay.

Trevor:

Um, but no foreign journalists were allowed into the country.

Trevor:

And they recently did some, a drops by plane.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

And the journalists in the plains were not allowed to take photographs from

Trevor:

the plane of the destruction in Gaza.

Trevor:

I, as you know, for my sins, subscribe to the Courier Mail and for Laly every

Trevor:

day, look for a picture of a starving, dismembered, wounded Palestinian kid

Trevor:

that might tear at the heartstrings of a reader and convince them nothing.

Trevor:

Nothing.

Trevor:

Dear listener, for two years, nearly today, an image of a starving man,

Trevor:

obviously R Thin rib sticking out, looked in a terrible condition.

Trevor:

You're probably thinking,

Joe:

well,

Trevor:

finally, the Korean male has found a heart.

Joe:

No, I've seen this.

Trevor:

There's a picture of one of the hostages.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

So, fair enough to provide a picture of one of the hostages that

Trevor:

these bastards have not shown pictures of any of the starving wounded, maimed and

Joe:

maed.

Joe:

The hostage is starving because there's no food in Gaza, not because his

Joe:

captors are deliberately starving him.

Joe:

True.

Trevor:

In fact, the, the prisoners who were returned mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Uh, commented about how well they were treated relatively.

Trevor:

So, um, uh, so yeah, but god damn courier male, that's, uh, that's

Trevor:

what it would've came up with today.

Trevor:

So.

Trevor:

Um, s So yeah, let me just say Crikey, actually Crikey did a

Trevor:

wrap of the coverage on the bridge comparing the different media outlets.

Trevor:

Um, the A BC described the protests protestors as having braved a literal

Trevor:

rainstorm, the courts, which ruled in their favor on Saturday, and they've

Trevor:

braved the political will of Chris Mins, the New South Wales premier.

Trevor:

So a, b, C positive about the protestors.

Trevor:

The Western Australian front page headline, bloody chaos, baby doll smeared

Trevor:

in fake blood and Aussie flag burned as while protests become our normal.

Trevor:

Read the south heading.

Trevor:

So that's the Western Australia.

Joe:

Oh no, the, the Guardian.

Joe:

How, how is the country gonna survive?

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

People being smeared in fake blood and a flag being burned.

Trevor:

We are just in this Orwellian dystopian world.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Where you, the same event is reported in so many different ways.

Trevor:

The guardian sea of people march across Sydney Harbor Bridge, calling

Trevor:

for an end to the killing in Kaza.

Trevor:

Good Sydney Morning Herald.

Trevor:

Sydney says, enough called the March even bigger than we dreamt of in

Trevor:

a monumental and historic success.

Trevor:

The Daily Telegraph News Corp didn't even put anything on the front page.

Trevor:

A small banner referenced to page four, and in page four it had a bridge too far.

Trevor:

Has chaotic protest sent, set an unwanted precedent, and, um,

Trevor:

somewhere else was a headline, almost catastrophic chaos at Gaza March.

Trevor:

All the same event.

Trevor:

Nine news, fairly positive, uh, special and significant.

Trevor:

The sheer amount of people, we were all blown away.

Trevor:

But Sky News as we've, um, we've just heard, um, no, that was a different clip.

Trevor:

McFerson on Sky News accused protestors of waving Hamas flags and Taliban flags,

Trevor:

and said that the protestors condemned the supposed starving of Palestinians.

Trevor:

This is the sort of shit that is on Sky News, where they talk about the

Trevor:

supposed starving of Palestinians.

Trevor:

Not saying, oh, there's no Palestinians starving.

Trevor:

There's, you know, question mark over that.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

Also, sky News marches also ignored the Sydney public whose ability to

Trevor:

traverse the Sydney made impossible by the bridge closure, blah, blah.

Trevor:

And the Australian, there's

Joe:

a tunnel right next to the bridge.

Trevor:

Yes, indeed.

Trevor:

Um, I think the tunnel actually follows the

Scott:

bridge doesn't, it just goes under the harbor.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

And there's three train lines on the bridge as well.

Scott:

They wouldn't have shut down the train lines, would they?

Trevor:

No, I don't think.

Trevor:

And the Australian Sydney Harbor Bridge, pro-Palestine protest marred

Trevor:

by Aya to image and traffic chaos.

Trevor:

That was the headline.

Trevor:

So, so I think we rabbit on about, on this podcast, about the propaganda

Trevor:

that we are subjected to in this world.

Trevor:

And that is just a classic example of how the pro-Palestine march is

Trevor:

covered by the different papers.

Trevor:

Depending on the ideology that they have, and yet Dick ads out there will tell you

Trevor:

that they think journalists are fair and unbiased and are doing the best they can.

Trevor:

There's no way that they would report things.

Trevor:

Who says that?

Trevor:

Being told by editors how to report things?

Trevor:

I Come on Trevor.

Trevor:

I would've been told You don't think that journalists are

Joe:

I, I think the journalists are harassed by other forms of media and

Joe:

they're doing a thousand news stories in the time that it takes to do 10.

Joe:

Yep.

Joe:

So they don't bother fact checking anything.

Joe:

They don't have time to fact check anything.

Joe:

They're just copying and pasting from the various newsfeeds they're given

Joe:

and press releases that they're given

Trevor:

indeed for most things.

Trevor:

But journalists in the Murdoch Empire, when sitting down to write their article

Trevor:

about the pro-Palestinian march over the Sydney Harbor Bridge, not for one

Trevor:

minute thought that they could write.

Trevor:

A positive piece about the march and how it demonstrated Australia's support for

Trevor:

Palestinians and, and that sort of thing.

Trevor:

They knew that they had to be disparaging and negative about it, otherwise they

Trevor:

wouldn't have a job the next day.

Trevor:

Um, I dunno.

Trevor:

In fact, they wouldn't have been hired to do the job unless they

Trevor:

automatically thought that way.

Trevor:

They wouldn't have even had that initial thought.

Trevor:

Maybe I could write a piece positive about the march because they wouldn't

Trevor:

be in that newsroom working for News Corp if they thought that way.

Joe:

No, no, no.

Joe:

They don't think at all.

Joe:

It's an AI bot.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

That spews out whatever the editorial staff put in.

Joe:

No.

Joe:

Well,

Trevor:

the bot is programmed Yeah.

Trevor:

To make it, but these guys and girls are programmed by the, the

Trevor:

swampy cesspool that they've joined.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

And call themselves journalists.

Trevor:

Shame on them.

Trevor:

Like get another job.

Trevor:

Just, I know you've got mortgages and commitments, but just

Trevor:

repeating the sort of shit that Murdoch requires you to repeat.

Trevor:

It's not worth selling yourself for.

Trevor:

There's my advice to all those journalists.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

So,

Trevor:

okay.

Trevor:

Andrew's leaving us.

Trevor:

He's gotta go.

Trevor:

Test match is starting what

Trevor:

evening to Alison.

Trevor:

Test match again.

Trevor:

Whatley, Don, uh, and Andrew.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

What else have we got here?

Trevor:

Um,

Trevor:

just run through a few things.

Trevor:

Uh, so we had Jillian Al here, special Envoy appointed by Anthony Albanese.

Trevor:

TikTok has hired Mossad Asset, former Israeli proud Zionist, Erica Mendel,

Trevor:

to directly run their censorship.

Trevor:

They're paying her $371,000 a year to sit in an office in New York censoring

Trevor:

posts and banning accounts for Israel.

Trevor:

So, um, so yeah, tiktoks got, um, their censor in place and they

Trevor:

didn't pick somebody from, uh, the Jewish groups that are non Zionist.

Trevor:

They've picked one from deep in the hard line Zionist territory

Trevor:

and say, oh, well, she's Jewish.

Trevor:

She can speak on behalf of all of them with her pro Zionist views.

Trevor:

Good luck on TikTok getting something out there that's anti Zionist

Trevor:

in this crazy mixed up world.

Trevor:

Scott.

Trevor:

People like Marjorie Taylor, a cooling garra Holocaust.

Trevor:

Yeah, but not Bernie Sanders.

Scott:

She's calling it a Gar Garza Holocaust.

Scott:

He's not causing

Trevor:

it, he's not causing it a genocide yet.

Scott:

But Marjorie Tower Green is

Trevor:

Yes.

Scott:

MTG.

Scott:

Yep.

Trevor:

Has,

Scott:

uh, it doesn't surprise me 'cause she was the one that said that,

Scott:

you know, as Jewish space lasers that caused the, uh, California wildfires.

Trevor:

Yes.

Trevor:

You

Scott:

know, I,

Trevor:

so sometimes a stop clock, Scott.

Scott:

Well, sometimes a stop clock is twice.

Scott:

So sometimes the

Trevor:

Nazis right?

Scott:

Yes, he is right twice a day.

Scott:

But, um, Bernie Sanders, he's a Jew and everything else.

Scott:

I, you know,

Scott:

I understand if you are Jewish, that it does take a fair bit to get involved.

Scott:

And there was a guy this morning on 7:00 AM that was talking about how

Scott:

his father had to leave Nazi Germany.

Scott:

And, um, all that type of thing.

Scott:

And he said that he's lost friends because he's taken an Andy Zionist position.

Scott:

And they said, well, why, why are you, why are you, why are you

Scott:

turning your back on the tribe?

Scott:

And he says, I'm not turning my back on the tribe.

Scott:

He says, but the tribe's current government is wrong.

Scott:

Hmm.

Scott:

And he's finding it very hard to get it through people's thick skull

Scott:

that you can be anti, you can be anti-ISIS, Israel's government

Scott:

without being necessarily anti-Israel.

Scott:

But you, you're certainly not anti-Semitic.

Joe:

I, I've seen old Jews who said, you know, we worked in the kum.

Joe:

We, we had this idea of a socialist utopia.

Scott:

Yeah.

Joe:

A worker's paradise.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

And, and current Israel is not what we fought for.

Scott:

No, exactly.

Scott:

You know, the kibbutz was probably the, um.

Scott:

The kibbutz system was probably the only place that socialism actually worked out.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

You know, it's just that it was, it was just there at that time.

Scott:

It worked very well for that particular period of time.

Scott:

I think everywhere else, you know, socialism hasn't worked.

Scott:

It's just been part of the system and everything else.

Scott:

You know, like, you know, it's like Vietnam, it calls it, they're a socialist

Scott:

Republic of Vietnam, but there's nothing socialist about the country at all.

Scott:

You know, everything's for sale, including government decisions.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

You know, um,

Trevor:

anyway.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

School children, they used to, uh, sing Kumbaya, but now, uh, some Jewish

Trevor:

school children were kicked off a plane after singing death to Arabs, um, that,

Trevor:

uh, Spanish airline got rid of them.

Trevor:

Uh, you know, that

Scott:

doesn't surprise me, like it's just, um.

Scott:

It is, like I've said before, you know, the next generation of Hamas

Scott:

terrorists are being bred now in in Gaza because they're just gonna grow up

Scott:

and they're gonna be told, well, your parents are dead because of the Jews.

Scott:

You know, it's not going to, the Israelis are creating the next

Scott:

wave of antisemitism, you know?

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Yes.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

Uh, a danger to the Jews everywhere is what the Zionists are doing.

Trevor:

Yeah, exactly.

Trevor:

Now, regular listeners will know that I'm a big fan of Giannis for a Farkas,

Trevor:

and he has a bit to say for three minutes on amass, and then will be able to

Trevor:

move on to Trump and a bit of comedy.

Trevor:

But for the last word on this topic for tonight, here is yanus.

Yanis:

Those who try very hard to extract from people like me, from

Yanis:

DM 25, A condemnation of the attack.

Yanis:

By the Hamas ez, uh, will never get it, and they will never get

Yanis:

it for a very simple reason.

Yanis:

Those who care about humans without any discrimination, those who care

Yanis:

equally about a Jew and an Arab

Yanis:

must ask themselves a very simple question.

Yanis:

What exactly is their idea of the cessation of hostilities that

Yanis:

Palestinians are going to lay down their arms and go back to into the

Yanis:

largest open air prison in the world?

Yanis:

Where they are constantly suffocated by the apartheid state.

Yanis:

In other words, back in South Africa, in the era of apartheid,

Yanis:

uh, what was the problem?

Yanis:

Was it that, um, uh, some, uh, uh, members of the black resistance, uh, including

Yanis:

the A NC, but not only the A NC took up arms against the South African regime

Yanis:

and sometimes killed innocent people?

Yanis:

Was that the problem with apartheid?

Yanis:

No, the problem was apartheid.

Yanis:

Apartheid, whether it's practiced in South Africa or in Palestine or Israel, is

Yanis:

always going to procure violence because it's a violent misanthropic system.

Yanis:

Uh, any human being living un under appetite at some point will either die

Yanis:

a terrible silent death or rebel and often take innocent people with him.

Yanis:

The criminals here are not Hamas, not even the Israeli settlers

Yanis:

who are killing Palestinians.

Yanis:

The criminals are Europeans.

Yanis:

Us every single member of, uh, our German society, a French society, a

Yanis:

Greek society, a United States society.

Yanis:

We have, uh, participated in this crime against humanity over the

Yanis:

decades by keeping our mouth, our mouths shut, as long as there is no

Yanis:

trouble down there, as long as people are dying, um, outside the reach of

Yanis:

cameras, as long as its Palestinians would die and not the occupiers.

Yanis:

So this incredible tragedy must be converted.

Yanis:

Into an opportunity for us Europeans to wake up and to redeem ourselves by

Yanis:

demanding that collectively we take the first decisive step towards peace.

Yanis:

And that is the destruction of the state of apartheid, just

Yanis:

like we did in South Africa.

Trevor:

Hmm.

Trevor:

There we go.

Trevor:

Be honest.

Trevor:

Wasn't that long ago when, um, I think the Apartheid sort of analogy is a

Trevor:

good one and really helped turn the tide against Israel a few years ago.

Trevor:

I think people would go,

Scott:

yeah, it's a

Trevor:

pretty analogous situation.

Trevor:

Makes sense.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

It's just, um, you know, it's like I've, I've said to you before, you know.

Scott:

Those settlers are a breed apart and just the contempt they

Scott:

show for the Palestinians is utterly disgusting what they do.

Scott:

You know,

Trevor:

it is Scott, but I have some sympathy for them in the sense that

Trevor:

they are so totally immersed in a propagandized bubble of indoctrination

Trevor:

that I, I have more sympathy for them than I do for some of my fellow

Trevor:

Aussies who you know are pro-Israel.

Trevor:

Because Yeah, I can, I think you've gotta, you should have been able

Trevor:

to break out of the bubble here.

Trevor:

I can understand those things.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

You should

Scott:

have been able to break outta the bubble here.

Scott:

The settlers.

Scott:

Yeah, but I'm still not prepared to lend them all that much credibility

Scott:

because, you know, just little things like throwing an empty stubby down in

Scott:

a. To smash in a Palestinian courtyard.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

That sort of thing is disgusting.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

But anyway, it's just run of the mill, so.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

I wouldn't be relying on, like Gianni talked about hope, I

Trevor:

think of the EU doing something, but those guys are just, um,

Joe:

well, Germany has got such a guilt complex about what it did in

Joe:

the second World War that anything Israel does is beyond reproach.

Joe:

Mm. Because the Germans say, we can't reproach the Jews.

Joe:

Look what we did to them.

Joe:

Yes.

Joe:

And, and I think the Germans need to get over that.

Scott:

Exactly.

Scott:

They do.

Scott:

You know, I, I I think it's time for the world to get over the second World War.

Scott:

You know?

Scott:

Uh, I think it's time for the Japanese to get out onto the battlefield

Scott:

again and that sort of stuff.

Scott:

They shouldn't just have a Japanese defense force.

Scott:

They should have a Japanese force that actually gets involved in things.

Scott:

Well, Scott, do

Trevor:

we really need 'em

Scott:

to get

Trevor:

out on the battlefield?

Trevor:

Yeah, maybe, maybe just kick, maybe just kick the US.

Trevor:

Bases out and not get on in battlefield maybe.

Scott:

No, I just think do they really?

Scott:

I just think that if you have, if Japan was able to do something,

Scott:

then you probably against two.

Scott:

I don't know.

Scott:

Ja,

Joe:

Japan is the opposite of Germany, though.

Joe:

Japan hasn't even agreed that they committed war crimes.

Scott:

Yeah, I know they haven't agreed.

Scott:

They've committed war crimes, but they've got a very pacifist, um, constitution.

Scott:

Well,

Joe:

yes.

Joe:

Yeah.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

But gee,

Trevor:

is there anything wrong with the pacifist constitution?

Trevor:

Do we need our pacifist to go out on the battlefield, Scott?

Scott:

Well, I would have no problem if North Korea decided to actually

Scott:

kick the shit outta South Korea.

Scott:

I wouldn't have a problem if the Japanese got involved in that fight.

Trevor:

I don't think we have to worry about North Korea

Trevor:

picking fights with South Korea.

Scott:

Well, one would hope not.

Scott:

Yeah.

Trevor:

Shall we have a bit of fun with Trump?

Trevor:

Sure.

Scott:

Might as well,

Trevor:

uh, don about Trump.

Trevor:

What, uh, Joe, you found a thing, a memo about US employees, federal workers.

Trevor:

What'd you think of that one?

Scott:

I actually heard that.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Is this the one about them that they're, they're okay to?

Joe:

A Trump memo allows federal workers to persuade coworkers that their

Joe:

religion is the true and correct one.

Scott:

Mm.

Joe:

As long as it's not harassment.

Joe:

Yes.

Joe:

Because harassment is when anybody tells a Christian that their religion

Joe:

is wrong, it's not harassment for a Christian to tell anyone

Joe:

else that their religion's wrong.

Trevor:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Trevor:

A special memo went out to federal workers and examples were given During a

Trevor:

break, an employee may engage in another, in polite discussion of why his faith

Trevor:

is correct and why the non-adherent should rethink his religious beliefs.

Trevor:

However, if the non-adherent requests such attempts to stop, the employee

Trevor:

should honor the request, the memo added.

Trevor:

Well then that's okay, isn't it?

Trevor:

Like, if you're just saying like, that must happen in lunchrooms all the time

Trevor:

where religious people say, you know, I found Jesus and I think you should

Trevor:

too, want me to talk to you about it.

Trevor:

If people say, I have F off,

Scott:

I have never experienced anything like that in my entire life, and I

Scott:

worked at a Catholic high school.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

But Catholics don't proselytize even then I actually said to the, uh, principal

Scott:

and all that sort of stuff, when she came to me con to control me about my father.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

And I said, I've never considered myself to be a man of faith.

Scott:

And she said, that's no problem at all, but we will pray for your father's soul.

Scott:

And I thought to myself, okay, fair enough.

Scott:

You can do that if you want to.

Scott:

You know, it's just, I have never experienced anyone trying tous.

Scott:

Protal size to me, you know, I've never experienced it at all.

Scott:

Anyway,

Trevor:

anyway, the Trump, uh, administration is looking to

Trevor:

help people who wanna do that.

Trevor:

So that's a memo that came out.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Joe:

They're gonna be shocked when the satanists start.

Joe:

Mm.

Scott:

That'll be, yeah.

Scott:

It's one of those things, I just think this myself, they've actually gotta,

Scott:

um, they've gotta prepare for that.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

Because allowing all these religions to say as much as they want, they're

Scott:

gonna have to put up with the, uh, Hindus, they're gonna have to put

Scott:

out with the satanists, they're gonna have to put out with everyone else.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Tariffs, Trump and India.

Trevor:

So Donald Trump put out a truth.

Trevor:

Yeah, remember, while India is our friend, we have over the years done relatively

Trevor:

little business with them because their tariffs are far too high among the highest

Trevor:

in the world, and they have the most strenuous and obnoxious non-monetary

Trevor:

trade barriers of any country.

Trevor:

Also, they have always bought a vast majority of their military equipment

Trevor:

from Russia and our Russia's largest buyer of energy along with China at

Trevor:

a time when everyone wants Russia two and the rest is in capital

Trevor:

letters, stop the killing in Ukraine.

Trevor:

All things not good exclamation mark India will therefore be paying a tariff

Trevor:

of 25% plus a penalty for the above, starting on August 1st, thank you for

Trevor:

your attention to this matter, Magar,

Trevor:

just the phrasing of this guy, the capitals that not it, it is comical.

Scott:

Um, yeah, it's one of those things.

Scott:

I actually heard a report the other day.

Scott:

That they reckon that future administrations are gonna find

Scott:

it very difficult to walk away from the tariffs because the

Scott:

amount of money they're actually collecting from the American people.

Scott:

From the American people, I know.

Scott:

It's just, it's, it is a new wave of taxation that they've got over there.

Joe:

Mm-hmm.

Joe:

Quite possibly progressive taxation.

Joe:

They, they'll have to tax the millionaires again and Or the billionaires.

Joe:

Yeah, exactly.

Joe:

And the billionaires are funding the politicians, so they're not gonna do that.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Uh, Australia capitulated on beef.

Trevor:

So Donald Trump another truth.

Trevor:

After many years, Australia has agreed to accept American beef for a long time.

Trevor:

And even though we are great friends, they actually banned our beef.

Trevor:

Now we are going to sell so much to Australia because this is undeniable

Trevor:

and irrefutable proof that US beef is the safest and best in the entire world.

Trevor:

The other countries that refuse our magnificent beef are on notice.

Trevor:

All of our nation's ranches who are some of the hardest working and

Trevor:

most wonderful people are smiling today, which means I am smiling too.

Trevor:

Let's keep the hot streak going.

Trevor:

It's the Golden Age of America.

Scott:

No, it's,

Joe:

the reason American beef was banned was because they don't actually

Joe:

label the country of origin, and therefore it wasn't American beef.

Joe:

That was the risk.

Joe:

It was the beef coming from third countries that came through

Joe:

America, because the Americans don't label it as any different.

Joe:

Ah,

Trevor:

are they forced to label it this time?

Trevor:

No.

Trevor:

No.

Trevor:

Right.

Trevor:

So we could be getting Mexican beef.

Scott:

Yes.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Which is one of those things.

Scott:

I just think to myself that, um, my understanding is the American herd is

Scott:

quite down, so they're not actually, they're not actually planning on

Scott:

exporting very much beef to us at all.

Scott:

And our herd is quite high.

Scott:

So we're not, we're not planning on inboarding a hell of a lot of beef.

Trevor:

I, I just can't imagine.

Trevor:

Any good reason why we would want to buy American beef?

Joe:

Well, we can drop

Trevor:

the ban and

Joe:

then not buy

Trevor:

any.

Trevor:

Yes.

Trevor:

You would think it's going to arrive here way more expensive Yes.

Trevor:

Than local beef.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Because it's had to travel across the goddamn Pacific Ocean.

Scott:

Exactly.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

It's one of those things, I just think to myself that, um, he's just beating the

Scott:

drum and he's carrying on like a wanker.

Scott:

That's all, you know?

Scott:

It's like, um, I was in my fruit and veg shop the other day and I said,

Scott:

oh, where are the cherries from?

Scott:

They're from the United States.

Scott:

I said, oh, I won't be buying them then.

Scott:

And she just smiled, you know, small

Trevor:

act of protests, Scott,

Scott:

the eighties, because I just will not buy anything that comes out

Scott:

of America because, you know, the, the way the Americans are treating

Scott:

their allies is utterly disgusting.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

He's got good words of advice for some of his allies.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Like what?

Trevor:

Oh, like this.

Trump:

Well, I say thi, I say two things to Europe.

Trump:

Stop the windmills.

Trump:

You're ruining your countries.

Trump:

I really mean it.

Trump:

It's so sad.

Trump:

You fly over and you see these windmills all over the place ruining your beautiful

Trump:

fields and valleys and killing your birds.

Trump:

And if they're stuck in the ocean, ruining your ocean.

Trevor:

There we go.

Trevor:

That's some advice.

Trevor:

Get rid of the windmills

Joe:

on the killing the birds point.

Joe:

You know that the average coal fired power station kills more birds than

Joe:

a wind farm of an equivalent size.

Joe:

Oh really?

Joe:

Yeah.

Scott:

Oh

Joe:

really?

Joe:

Because the pollutants in the cert, uh, just causes respiratory disease

Joe:

and, uh, heavy metal poisoning.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

Okay.

Joe:

So yeah, I mean, all this crap about windmills, they

Joe:

don't care about the birds.

Joe:

Course not.

Joe:

No, it's just a See I, I see the fields of windmills and I think, oh wow.

Joe:

Clean energy.

Joe:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Which is exactly what I think too.

Scott:

You know, they're not ugly, you know?

Scott:

Okay.

Scott:

They do emit a sound, which is a little bit hard to deal with, but if you don't,

Scott:

if you don't build 'em close to people and all that sort of stuff, that's no problem.

Scott:

You know?

Scott:

And the other thing too is that you can have, you can have a wind

Scott:

farm, you can have it above grazing animals and all that sort of stuff.

Scott:

And they're just happily grazed down there.

Scott:

They're not pissed off by the sound.

Scott:

Well,

Trevor:

well, you can put it out in the ocean.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

You can put it out in the ocean.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

Beyond site or almost beyond sight.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

And people still complain.

Trevor:

Yeah,

Scott:

I know.

Trevor:

And then they say, what about the whales is if the whales

Trevor:

dunno how to dodge these things and.

Trevor:

When you put a structure in the water, invariably it promotes marine life because

Trevor:

barnacles grow and it's almost like a artificial reef kind of thing, but Yep.

Trevor:

You just can't satisfy these people.

Joe:

No.

Joe:

And then if you're serious about sound pollution, I saw a documentary all

Joe:

about the, um, crypto farms in Texas.

Joe:

Right?

Joe:

Well, the air conditioning plants generate so much noise that their neighbors are

Joe:

being driven insane by the constant Hummer of the air conditioning because

Joe:

you've got thousands and thousands of computers and they've gotta call them.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

So you have huge air conditioning plants right next to residential neighborhoods.

Joe:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

So Trump talks shit all the time.

Trevor:

We know.

Joe:

Yeah, he does.

Trevor:

Um, he's in a running battle with the Federal Reserve about interest rates.

Trevor:

Can I, sorry.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

And apparently the Federal Reserve was undergoing some renovations.

Trevor:

Oh, yes.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

So he decided to make up, this is very funny, a point of just, you know,

Trevor:

exaggerating the cost of the renovations.

Trevor:

And the guy who's in charge was standing beside him as Trump

Trevor:

tried to bullshit, bullshit about the high cost of the renovation.

Trevor:

And this guy just immediately grabbed the piece of paper, looked

Trevor:

over it and said, that's bullshit.

Trevor:

You the renovation figure, you are claiming a building

Trevor:

that was built five years ago

Scott:

mm-hmm.

Trevor:

And completed in the current renovation.

Trevor:

So here he is, here, this guy.

Trevor:

So we're taking a look and, uh, it looks like it's about 3.1 billion.

Trevor:

It went up a little bit or a lot.

Trevor:

Uh, so the 2.7 is now 3.1.

Trevor:

I'm not aware of that.

Trevor:

President.

Trevor:

It just came out.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

I haven't heard that from anybody.

Trevor:

The Fed?

Trevor:

Yeah, it just came, just came.

Trevor:

Our notes added about 3.1 as well.

Trevor:

3.1, 3.2. This came from us.

Trevor:

Yes.

Trevor:

I don't know who does that.

Trevor:

Are you're including the Martin renovation you just added?

Trevor:

That's our entire capital.

Trevor:

You just add, you just added in a third building is what that is.

Trevor:

That's a third building.

Trevor:

Including building.

Trevor:

It's, it's a building that's being built.

Trevor:

No, it's been, it was built five years ago.

Trevor:

We finished Martin five years ago.

Trevor:

It's part of the overall work.

Trevor:

It's not new, so we're gonna take a look.

Joe:

Was good.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

People don't generally call him on his bullshit.

Joe:

Mm. It was Jerome

Scott:

Powell, was it?

Joe:

Uh, I'm not sure who it was.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

But, uh, Trump will never admit that he's wrong.

Joe:

No.

Scott:

The other thing that I thought was absolutely hysterical was the

Scott:

fact that the, um, person that was in charge of the labor statistics

Scott:

and everything like that Oh yeah.

Scott:

He reported the, she reported the numbers and he fired her because

Scott:

he didn't like the numbers.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

Because the labor figures are down.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

It's, it's the worst since COVID, I think.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

Despite, exactly, yeah.

Joe:

Four years of Biden, and it was getting better.

Joe:

There was less unemployment.

Joe:

Suddenly it's gone backwards and, and Trump goes, oh, that,

Joe:

that's, that's obviously wrong.

Joe:

Fire them.

Joe:

Mm.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

So there we go.

Trevor:

Dear listener, that's the state of the world where a peaceful march across

Trevor:

the Sydney Harbor Bridge is painted in.

Trevor:

Completely different ways, depending on the news source

Trevor:

that you want to listen to.

Trevor:

And it's not through mistake, it's through deliberate decision making

Trevor:

by the powers that be in terms of wanting to propagandize the community.

Trevor:

And it's happening on that issue.

Trevor:

It's happening on a lot of issues.

Trevor:

Like guys, I used to think, you know, on any issue that was a little

Trevor:

bit complicated, if you sat me in a room with somebody for an hour,

Trevor:

I could explain it to them and convince 'em of the correct solution.

Trevor:

But of now, after all, after 478 episodes, Gaza, well actually,

Trevor:

first of all, COVID and vaccines.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

And then Gaza convinced me that, nope, uh, tribalism is way too, um, oh, in fact,

Joe:

don't change minds.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

Yeah.

Trevor:

And people just don't wanna listen.

Trevor:

So

Joe:

people are worried about a social death is worse than actual death.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Joe:

People will do things that are likely to kill 'em as long as it means

Joe:

they're not excluded from their team.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

And so they will frighten me, twist and contort things.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

To,

Trevor:

to somehow arrive at a position that's consistent with their

Trevor:

tribe and the smarter they are.

Trevor:

The clever they are at, at twisting and contorting these things.

Trevor:

It's a frightening world.

Trevor:

Dear listener.

Trevor:

There's an expose of what happened in the last two weeks.

Trevor:

Can we keep doing this?

Trevor:

I'll try.

Trevor:

Uh, I think maybe a book next week might do a book review.

Trevor:

Rutger Bregman.

Trevor:

I've gotta read his, it's all about people.

Trevor:

Saying, don't take a bullshit job.

Trevor:

Take a job that's good for your talent.

Trevor:

So all these smart people who end up working for Goldman Sachs and Morgan

Trevor:

Chase and just end up in finance should be out doing other things that have,

Joe:

have you seen more important for

Trevor:

humanity?

Joe:

The British guy who, uh, was born, grew up in the east end

Joe:

of London, ended up working in the city, made several million.

Joe:

Mm-hmm.

Joe:

And he's now a big advocate for, um, taxing the rich.

Joe:

Right.

Joe:

And he goes on news programs where of course is, oh, you

Joe:

know, we can't tax the rich.

Joe:

They'll just move offshore.

Joe:

You know, it, it should be the poor people that pay more because, you know,

Joe:

they can't afford to leave, basically.

Joe:

And he's saying, yeah, he, he's seen the.

Joe:

Widening gap between the rich and the poor, and the middle

Joe:

class has just disappeared.

Joe:

Mm-hmm.

Joe:

Talking about his dad who was working class, who could afford a house,

Joe:

you know, single, single income, and there was four of them or whatever.

Joe:

Uh, and saying that, that just doesn't exist now.

Joe:

And, and he's saying, the only way we're gonna reverse this is by

Joe:

taking some of the wealth that the, uh, rich have squirreled away and

Joe:

feeding it back into the system.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Joe:

So very, very interesting because yeah, he's a financier and every time

Joe:

someone goes, oh, this is the reason why we can't do it, he goes, bullshit.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

Here are the numbers to prove you wrong.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

I studied economics at Oxford and London School of Economics.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

So he knows what he's talking

Trevor:

about.

Trevor:

What are the chances though of convincing people of things like

Trevor:

that when you can't convince 'em?

Trevor:

Of a genocide and a mass starvation that's right before our eyes.

Joe:

Well, I think it's interesting that the voices out there, even though

Joe:

it's a single voice at the moment.

Joe:

Mm mm At least it's a beginning.

Joe:

Mm.

Joe:

And maybe other time attitudes will change.

Trevor:

Oh, Joe, that's a lovely to finish on.

Trevor:

Well, the,

Joe:

the, the Golden Age.

Joe:

The Gilded Age died, uh, unionism became a thing.

Joe:

Mm-hmm.

Joe:

Maybe that will happen in the future.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

I think it will actually happen because my union was, um, protesting up here today.

Scott:

Um, you know, there was a whole lot of them out there

Scott:

at, at the front of the, um,

Trevor:

the Union of Accountants.

Scott:

No, they're professional.

Scott:

What's it called?

Scott:

Professionals Australia.

Scott:

Okay.

Scott:

So they back, uh, accountants, chemists, and engineers.

Trevor:

Right.

Scott:

Anyway.

Scott:

Really?

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

So there were engineers and all that sort of stuff that got the niggers

Scott:

in a twist about something or other.

Scott:

So they're out there protesting today.

Trevor:

Alright.

Trevor:

We'll be back, uh uh, next week.

Trevor:

Join a union.

Trevor:

Meanwhile, you should actually,

Scott:

no, you should actually join a union.

Scott:

Yep.

Scott:

'cause I think that if more people actually joined a union

Scott:

and started actually speaking up, then the unions would actually

Scott:

become something more mainstream.

Scott:

And if they're more mainstream, then the employers are gonna

Scott:

start shitting themselves again.

Trevor:

Mm

Scott:

mm

Trevor:

Again, if I reading the Courier mail, the amount

Trevor:

of anti CFM EEU stuff mm-hmm.

Trevor:

That's coming out.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

I know.

Trevor:

In that paper.

Trevor:

C Never.

Trevor:

Never is it pointed out that thanks to that union.

Trevor:

Uh, tradies are earning good coin.

Trevor:

Thank you very much.

Trevor:

Well, it also, like middle

Joe:

managers, thanks to the union, you work a five day week, not a six day week.

Joe:

Yes.

Joe:

Mm-hmm.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

So, um,

Scott:

thanks to the union, you get two weeks off a year if you get

Scott:

sick, thanks to the union, you get four days, four weeks off a year.

Joe:

As holiday.

Scott:

As holiday.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

You know, it's just that all these things, dear listener,

Scott:

they didn't start yesterday.

Scott:

These things were fought for over a mm-hmm.

Scott:

Very long period of time and the unions were actually out there fighting for it.

Scott:

So I honestly believe that's why we've gotta actually, we should

Scott:

become a member of a union.

Scott:

Gotta have socialists.

Scott:

I've

Trevor:

gotta find a union for podcasters.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

I don't body corporate chair persons back to a voluntary basis.

Trevor:

And, uh, art supply, sales reps. If I just, yeah, I don't think

Trevor:

there's been there, but be a shopee.

Trevor:

I could start one.

Trevor:

Maybe that could be shoppy.

Trevor:

Yeah, that'd be good.

Trevor:

But certainly, yeah.

Trevor:

So

Scott:

an anti abortionist.

Trevor:

We've gotta go back next week, hopefully.

Trevor:

Bye for now.

Trevor:

Talk to you then.

Trevor:

Bye.

Trevor:

It's good night from me,

Joe:

and that's a good night from him.

Trevor:

Good night.