Hey there, everyone. My name is Adrian Daniels. Welcome to the Sound of Accra podcast.
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Speaker:been very very insightful conversation. Just you know
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Speaker:feedback that you have for us. Okay. Cool. So we're gonna move on today's
Speaker:episode. So as you can see, I'm not joined by 1, but by
Speaker:2 guests today. So I have Nana
Speaker:Koffi, who is the, co founder or founder actually of
Speaker:Merdeo Foods. And I'm also joined by Gideon who's the founder of the Honey
Speaker:Palace. Thank you. Thanks for coming on the show guys. Really appreciate it.
Speaker:So I don't know where we where we kicked this off because we got 2
Speaker:in the hot seat rather than 1. But just I'll probably just kick off in
Speaker:a traditional way. So I would just like both of you just to, share the
Speaker:audience. Actually before we do it actually I I was gonna share with you guys
Speaker:what they do because I think what these 2 guys do are brilliant. We
Speaker:met to the we met to the Ghana ecosystem.
Speaker:Ghana ecosystem. We started Mixer, wasn't it? Yeah. And I think maybe a couple weeks
Speaker:ago or so. And, yeah, these guys are doing some
Speaker:very interesting things in their space. Of course, you can see a massive
Speaker:bee on Gideon's t shirt on his cap. Of course,
Speaker:he is, you know, he he produces honey. We're gonna tell you a bit more
Speaker:about what he does. And of course, we've got Nana Koffi over here. He's doing
Speaker:some very interesting space in hospitality and the farming
Speaker:agriculture space. We're gonna tell you more about what he does as well. But yeah
Speaker:guys welcome. Thank you for coming on. Yeah. How did you
Speaker:find the event? Because we met at the, both of you both of you met
Speaker:at the the Ghana Mixer, startup event. How did you guys find the
Speaker:event? Oh, Gedoon. It was great. Honestly, it
Speaker:was it was amazing. And I think the good thing was the fact that I
Speaker:met a lot of, familiar faces, so it made it quite easier for
Speaker:me. And so, it was a great it was a great start for the year.
Speaker:Yeah. Mhmm. Mhmm. Yeah. I really loved the Chop Chops. Like,
Speaker:it was it was amazing. The their meals were were delighting
Speaker:and more so you could just like Gideon said, you can meet
Speaker:amazing other entrepreneurs doing something similar, what you're doing or see how best
Speaker:you guys can collaborate. So it was something for
Speaker:us for us, we're looking forward to that and also a great start.
Speaker:Brilliant. I'm I'm actually Yeah. I was blown away by the event,
Speaker:but I wasn't blown away by the fact that they didn't give me any chop
Speaker:chop. They just gave me water, but didn't get to the food. I saw food
Speaker:going around. And I'm like I saw food going around again and again. I'm like,
Speaker:what about me? I think even Alex from menu finder was What was yeah.
Speaker:He's a food he's got a food company. I think I kid you not. I
Speaker:think he used his own app to get food because as I was leaving, I
Speaker:saw him eating a hamburger. So I don't know what you did.
Speaker:Ghana Digital Centre, I don't know what you guys did but you didn't give me
Speaker:food. I'm not happy about that. I had to go home hungry. But anyway, it
Speaker:was still worth coming along to the event to meet at least these 2. So
Speaker:it was a event that was done pretty well. But, yeah,
Speaker:that was a really nice intimate event. And, of course, you know, I met both
Speaker:of you there and some others as well. Shout out to Alex and Many Fine
Speaker:Africa. He was also at the event. Akua and Naomi Mentor for season 5
Speaker:bumped into it over there. And Emmanuel Gamal, I missed him. I missed him.
Speaker:Apparently when I left, he came. He's from season 1. I missed him.
Speaker:But yeah, these are all great people. So let's get straight into it. So give
Speaker:give the audience a quick 60 second pitch about what you guys supposed to do.
Speaker:I wanna put you guys in the spotlight today as, sort of Ghana's tops,
Speaker:agriculture tech startups. Okay. So hi,
Speaker:everyone. Just like Adrianne said, I'm Nana Kofia Freya
Speaker:Asapin. I'm the founder of Medio Foods. And we are
Speaker:building a procurement platform that leverages
Speaker:technology to link local farmers directly with
Speaker:urban vendors and restaurants so we can provide them with quality
Speaker:fresh produce at their doorstep. But more importantly,
Speaker:we are using technology to provide cloud data
Speaker:solutions, such as data analytics, eventually management
Speaker:software, so that these restaurants can be more empowered to do
Speaker:their business well, and we do all their procurement for them.
Speaker:Brilliant. Next, Gideon? Yes. Thank you, Gideon.
Speaker:I work with Honey Palace Yeah. As a team lead.
Speaker:At Honey Palace, we are the leading honey brand, that we can talk about in
Speaker:Ghana here, and we currently work with 250 beekeepers
Speaker:across the northern territory and also the
Speaker:region. And we currently have about 7 different type of
Speaker:harmonies that we are having at our production house.
Speaker:So we work to protect the environment, number 1, restore
Speaker:the nature, number 2, Combat climate crisis, number 3.
Speaker:And reduce real poverty, number 4. And serve families
Speaker:with Ghana delicious honey. So that's basically what we do at the
Speaker:honey palace. That's the part I'm interested in. The the the delicious honey, isn't it?
Speaker:Yeah. Everything else is kind of irrelevant. I'm joking. Thank you. But, yeah.
Speaker:Wow. 7 different types of honey. We're gonna talk about that, you know, in just
Speaker:a moment. And, you know, the one for you ordered the beehive 1,000
Speaker:of beehives. Crazy. Crazy stuff. Reminds me of, the the My
Speaker:Girl movie back in the day when, Macaulay, Coking or whatever got
Speaker:stung by the bees. But anyway, let's let's continue.
Speaker:So I wanna kind of put the spotlight quickly on you, Nana Nana Koffi
Speaker:because, actually, you guys are good both. Actually,
Speaker:one thing I wanna mention about this episode is that both of these guys are
Speaker:actually also happy to be good friends. Would you share how you guys know each
Speaker:other? It's appropriate. It's appropriate.
Speaker:So what happened was, we we both, applied for what we call the
Speaker:PKM Abing Scholarship Program. Mhmm. And of course,
Speaker:anyone who's a Ghanaian and is oppressed with business knows that
Speaker:PK was, an astute business and is still an astute
Speaker:businessman who founded a UT Trust Bank and many
Speaker:other, holdings under under his his company.
Speaker:For for that matter, he wanted to start something so that he can mentor
Speaker:young people to become like him, and, of course, to make more impact. So we
Speaker:went through the process, and then luckily, we were both selected as the top
Speaker:20 candidate out of over 1500 candidates. It was really
Speaker:competitive. And fast forward, we went to this military program,
Speaker:and guess what? He sees me and I'm, you know, who is this
Speaker:guy? And I'm I'm so scared. I was so scared at the military camp,
Speaker:and he was just giving me morale. And so we happened to be under the
Speaker:same camp, tent, because we were grouped into tents, and we had to sleep in
Speaker:a jungle. And that's where I stayed. In the jungle? Yeah. What?
Speaker:We had to sleep in a jungle. Yeah. Ghana here? In Ghana
Speaker:here. And since then, we became
Speaker:very good friends. Oh, wow. What a story. Remarkable story.
Speaker:Speaking of remarkable stories, I'm gonna come back to you. Right?
Speaker:What's how did this whole business start? Because I know it's a beautiful story. Would
Speaker:you like to share with the audience? As it's kind of quite a very
Speaker:it's a long story, but very equally interested. Yeah.
Speaker:So it's not a long story. Yeah. So see. I understand.
Speaker:But it started somewhere in 2017. Right? And it
Speaker:got incorporated in 2018, right, under a different
Speaker:name, and it has gone through a transitions of names into now becoming the honey
Speaker:palace that everyone knows about. Yeah. But it started with me meeting one of my
Speaker:cousins at Achimota, the the mall, Achimota Mall
Speaker:at, Latomita wasn't in that down there.
Speaker:And we met, and she was gonna do a prepare for me, actually. Hey.
Speaker:So I met with to go with, with her to the market, the only market
Speaker:to buy ingredients for her to go do that. And when I met her, she
Speaker:was holding some bottles of honey. I was like, wow.
Speaker:What is this? And she said, this honey is so fine. So this honey, how
Speaker:much, you know, do you sell? And she said, 20 per 1. And I was
Speaker:like, okay. Fine. Jokingly, okay. If I sell them, how much will you give me?
Speaker:And she said, I'll give 5 per 1. So I said, woah. That's
Speaker:okay. So I took them, and I sold them before we
Speaker:wouldn't even get the market. If you notice distance between the
Speaker:Mhmm. And the dummy market Yeah. Yeah. You you
Speaker:realize that there's not really much distance. And I remember I sold the 5
Speaker:the first 5, bottles at the taxi station just around that place.
Speaker:And then when you move forward small, there's a a Wason Bay on the
Speaker:left, and I sold the other 5 and even had a preorders. Wow.
Speaker:From that place. You have to get the selling. So Come on. Come on. We
Speaker:don't have to talk. So, like, from there, I told her,
Speaker:anytime once you have honey, call me. I'll sell it for you. And so to
Speaker:speak, like, I enjoy sales. Sales is something that, that's what I do, and I
Speaker:love it. Right? So, from there, I think along the lines, she stopped
Speaker:actually herself. Oh, no. So I was like, wow. This is something that I need
Speaker:to and I've always been thinking about what I can do for the north. I
Speaker:mean, because from where I come from, I've always been thinking, okay. What
Speaker:can I do to bring some sort of, evolution and and economical
Speaker:evolution? Where are you from in where are you from in the north? The north.
Speaker:Yeah. Upper East region. Up in Rongeshu. So when I saw the honey, so
Speaker:a thought came to me that I could find this is something that I can
Speaker:do. This is something that I can use to empower people. So I then
Speaker:send message across to my communities. If you can harvest
Speaker:honey, I'll sell it for you, and you make money. Mhmm. So, basically, that's
Speaker:how the honey space or the honey, palace started from there. It was
Speaker:then King Gideon honey, then it's
Speaker:honey. King Gideon honey. You know? And then,
Speaker:then eventually, it became the Honey Palace in 2022.
Speaker:Wow. Then we launched our first home at Dominique Latu. In fact, the first
Speaker:honeycomb in West Africa, so to speak. You know? Is it still there? Do you
Speaker:still have a showroom, honeycomb? Yes. At Dummypla 2. And now last year, 2020
Speaker:3 November, we just opened our new products in house, the honey products in
Speaker:house. The only honey products in house actually must have spoken in a way at
Speaker:Identify for her. That's what we are. So, we are looking
Speaker:forward to the future. We don't know what it holds, but we know it's a
Speaker:little greater things. Amen. That God's grace is gonna be great.
Speaker:No. That's basically about Hamadah. That's an incredible story. It really is.
Speaker:And he we were talking about this off air that he has a you have
Speaker:a great story and I'm I'm glad that you kind of shadowed the audience. I'm
Speaker:sure the audience can be inspired by that. And you've got a great story as
Speaker:well, don't you Nana Coffee? In terms how you got into media foods. So
Speaker:I know that the 1 year national service is something that you know everyone in
Speaker:Ghana has to do. And some people may kind of like run away from it.
Speaker:Some people may kind of like be intimidated by it. But I like your
Speaker:attitude because with the 1 year national service, you look at you look at it
Speaker:in a perspective of entrepreneurial opportunity. So just to talk
Speaker:us through your your 1 year. I believe you did it with Z Pay. And
Speaker:you you looked at as opportunity rather than, you know, like something that will
Speaker:set you back. Yeah. Yeah. Indran, right on that. So,
Speaker:when I was going for my national service, prior to being a national service, I
Speaker:was a student producer. So it's a Gen Z term that
Speaker:signifies someone who is a student, but at the same time trying to do some
Speaker:entrepreneurial ventures. Yeah. And so I started a business, a restaurant
Speaker:business back on campus. It was called Obama Beans. Mhmm. And when I
Speaker:was trying to do Obama Obama. The president of the office.
Speaker:Yeah. I mean, that I think during those
Speaker:times, I think that's when president Obama was still
Speaker:Pop Lab, you know, being the first black American president. So we we said, okay,
Speaker:why don't we name him name the restaurant after him? Oh, wow.
Speaker:And How did he know?
Speaker:Yes. And what happened was we started to sell what we call Gobe,
Speaker:plantain and beans, but what we wanted to do different was to add some salad,
Speaker:onions, because us at that time, it wasn't popular. So salad,
Speaker:onions, and stuff like that. And 2 years
Speaker:after, it had to collapse because we were facing some struggles,
Speaker:which currently Medway is trying to solve. You want me to
Speaker:mention the problems we faced? Of course. Yeah. Yeah. So one way one
Speaker:problem we were facing was that unreliability of pricing. So you go
Speaker:to the market today, the the plantain you would want to get is
Speaker:maybe 25 Ghana cedis. You have on in your pocket 20 Ghana
Speaker:cedis. What do you do? It was very frustrating. Sometimes you have to come back
Speaker:to the restaurants and tell our customers that, oh,
Speaker:I mean, in in to it, it's the the beans and plantain is finished.
Speaker:So I then told myself that I'm really going to focus in getting
Speaker:a a place that would more or less inculcate
Speaker:in me the entrepreneurial mindset. And so
Speaker:I started to lobby among my friends and then
Speaker:try to ask if I can get any opportunity. And lo and behold,
Speaker:there was one guy called Alex. You know, whoever hears peace, shout
Speaker:out to him because he gave me the opportunity to, apply for
Speaker:the Z Pay. And so I went in, I met Andrew
Speaker:Ticci. He has been a wonderful mentor to me. I mean, I went
Speaker:to him and he said, he asked me why I really want to come here.
Speaker:And I told him, I really want to be an entrepreneur, and I've learned a
Speaker:lot about what he does at Z Pain. He's the founder, right? He's the
Speaker:founder. Mhmm. And he was like,
Speaker:Charlie, boho, boho, boho. You know, he was just trying to make some jokes
Speaker:and we ended up being very good friends. And I
Speaker:I must say it was Andrew who gave me the opportunity to serve my
Speaker:have my YNA national service at Z Page. Shout out to Andrew. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:Haven't met me, but I'm sure that'll happen eventually. Yeah. Because Z Pain is doing
Speaker:really well. Yeah. Really, really well. That's amazing. That's amazing. So I think both
Speaker:of you I mean, what you have in common is great stories in terms of
Speaker:how you got to where you got to. And they were both I mean,
Speaker:I think for you, Gideon, it wasn't so much a problem solved. It was
Speaker:more about a passion that you had. And now it's now you have a
Speaker:purpose behind what you're doing. And with you, Nano Coffee, it was
Speaker:more about a problem that you wanted to solve, and now it's, you know, a
Speaker:fully fledged business that you've got great Exactly. Yeah.
Speaker:So tell so listen so talk about, you know, what made your food stars
Speaker:as of present day. So of course, you've solved this problem now in terms of
Speaker:like the stock issue Mhmm. And stuff. Tell us what Medio Foods
Speaker:does. Yes. So we currently have our warehouse at Adenta.
Speaker:Funny enough. So that's how come we are still we're good friends because
Speaker:his warehouse is at Farfohah and mine is at, Oyerifa.
Speaker:Mhmm. And so we have this warehouse where now we are trying to inculcate
Speaker:the use of wind turbine because that's what will really make us
Speaker:stand out in the market. So we want to put in a wind turbine to
Speaker:more or less preserve the produce that we get from farmers
Speaker:for as long as maybe 30 days. Yeah. So that's currently in
Speaker:the pipeline. That's what we're doing currently. And also
Speaker:going to put on our platform the the addition of
Speaker:other supplies because we believe we cannot do this all by ourselves. Mhmm. We
Speaker:need to collaborate with other suppliers, other distributors in the agricultural
Speaker:supply chain so they get onto our platform so that they can also be able
Speaker:to sell to our network of restaurants. Really. So that's also something we're doing in
Speaker:the pipeline. Yeah. Currently, we have 7 to about 20 restaurants, including the Gold Coast
Speaker:restaurant,
Speaker:Ada Kings Restaurant, Chop Shop,
Speaker:Eric Eric Shop. And then looking at the other
Speaker:smaller indomie sellers too, we also look at them. Yeah. Yeah. And then
Speaker:these smaller comp or, like, I'll call them food vendors. So
Speaker:Yeah. AntileZy, something like that. So that's what we're
Speaker:currently doing. Okay. So you wanna solve, like, the, you know, just the whole
Speaker:kind of stock hospitality kind of issue of Yes.
Speaker:Yes. Not right now. Yes. So we are trying to ensure that
Speaker:restaurants and food vendors don't need to go through the struggle of going to
Speaker:the market to haggle over prices of food. And
Speaker:then also to have some sort of ownership
Speaker:on on product predictability. Because now on our platform, you can be able to
Speaker:determine that this price is what we are going to sell to you. You don't
Speaker:need to go remember I told you the story that I usually go to the
Speaker:market and I have in between 2 cities on me, and I'm short of 5
Speaker:cities. This time around, it's all on the platform. We can just give ourselves a
Speaker:call and we'll tell you the price right on time. So if you know you
Speaker:have the the money, we then supply it to you. There's a kind of
Speaker:issue we're tackling. Brilliant. Brilliant. Yeah. It is a it is a common issue because
Speaker:I know people that have to go to the market to
Speaker:purchase goods and, you know, pricing, negotiation,
Speaker:and your stock issues. It's a headache. So it's a real headache that you're solving.
Speaker:What you are using is is brilliant. And also find to
Speaker:add to that Mhmm. Our platform is quite unique because we realize that
Speaker:many of these small and medium sized restaurants, when they whenever they go to
Speaker:whenever they need a POS system in Ghana, it costs usually between
Speaker:3,000 to 50000 Ghana CDs. And you normally have to pay it
Speaker:affront because the developer is taking his cut, etcetera, etcetera,
Speaker:maintenance. And for that matter, we are saying that, look, you can't use our
Speaker:platform at a fraction of a cost for, say, 250 to 300
Speaker:Ghana CDs. You have access to our platform, our digital POS system. You
Speaker:would have access to our inventory management system, etcetera, to empower your
Speaker:business efficiently.
Speaker:And The food revolutionist, Yeah. Amazing.
Speaker:And you and your team developed it, right? Yes. So talk us through our team.
Speaker:Talk us through your team. So my team's a very small team.
Speaker:Mhmm. Myself, I'm more or less the team lead, marketing,
Speaker:and being the strategist. Yes. Then I have my tech lead, Jermaine
Speaker:Amayo Eje, who helps with the tech development. And
Speaker:of course, I have one lady who is a friend. She is Jenny
Speaker:Farmanza, helping me with the financials and accounting. Mhmm. And I have a
Speaker:driver because we have to normally go to get the farms, go to the
Speaker:farms to directly deliver to our restaurants. Yeah. And then
Speaker:one other friend called Emmanuel who helps from time to time. So Oh,
Speaker:yes. So when in in terms of employment, about 3 full time
Speaker:staff, the 2 are more or less like helping from time to time. Brilliant.
Speaker:That's all kind of nice. And that's the beauty of like being in the kind
Speaker:of agri tech or food tech business and stuff. Yes. Everything can be quite
Speaker:agile and you don't necessarily need loads and loads of people. Whereas with
Speaker:Gideon, I think of what you're doing is more hands on. So you're gonna have
Speaker:like a big team. So talk to talk us through that the team that you're
Speaker:gonna have. Like, is that big team? Is it small team?
Speaker:I would say compared to what the team we're gonna have, this is actually quite
Speaker:a small team Yeah. That we have right now. So, there
Speaker:are 12, permanent staff that we have. And
Speaker:we have 12. Yeah? Yes, please. And now we have
Speaker:45 part time part time workers Mhmm. Who are spread across the
Speaker:universities. So we have all campus ambassadors. Beautiful. Now with the
Speaker:universities, for their students to, you know, distribute their hand across.
Speaker:That's amazing. So to kind of do how you started, you want other people to
Speaker:kind of do the same thing. Wonderful. Beautiful. Right. Exactly. So that's that's
Speaker:what we're doing. So we have, finance team. We
Speaker:have the growth officers. We have the marketing team, the production
Speaker:team. Yeah. But we are currently recruiting, almost about 8
Speaker:people from the northern territory. We are going to study the
Speaker:product activation in Tamale. Then we move to,
Speaker:Damango. And then that's with the honey sa seed that we've introduced to the market.
Speaker:Right? So you can so now you're making type you're making different types of honey.
Speaker:Right? That's correct. That's why you're talking about 7 types of honey. Right? That's correct.
Speaker:Correct. Could you could you talk us through the 7 types of honey you got?
Speaker:Yes. So, so we have there are 2 main types of honey.
Speaker:Mhmm. Number 1 is the multifloral, and number 2 is the multifloral.
Speaker:The monofloral Okay. So the
Speaker:monofloral. Monofloral is the one that, the bees actually feed
Speaker:from different sources of trees. The the the
Speaker:forage on different, tree flowers, different kind of trees. But
Speaker:in the monoflora is where the bees focus on one particular single tree source
Speaker:or so to speak, 80% of the for the flower or the
Speaker:nectar that's used is from a particular single tree. Now a single tree doesn't mean
Speaker:that one particular, but it means one type of tree. Let's say
Speaker:mango. So for instance, right now, we have sold we have the multiflora
Speaker:honey. We also have mango honey, which is under the monoflora
Speaker:honey. We have cashew honey. We have neem honey. We have baobab
Speaker:honey, moringa honey, and ekesha honey.
Speaker:Right? And these honeys, when you taste them without someone
Speaker:telling you, you will know that, no. This actually be from this
Speaker:because of the flavor it gives you. Mhmm. You realize that, no, when when you
Speaker:take it, like, the mango honey, you realize, like, you would actually feel
Speaker:that mango like flavor, Yeah. Like, when you're taking it. The same with the
Speaker:cashew, the same with the moringa, and and all of that. Yeah. Yeah. So
Speaker:that's what we are doing right now in a while. And latest by June, we're
Speaker:gonna have our share tree, share nuts. No. Let me say
Speaker:share tree honey. Yeah. Because we, was the name? Starting up
Speaker:a project of about 1,000 acres of land that we're gonna develop into
Speaker:only share trees. Mhmm. And that is going to be, like, also partner with,
Speaker:beekeeping. Wow. That is so along the shared trees, then also
Speaker:beekeeping. We set up the beehives all across. Wow. Right. So it's amazing. That's
Speaker:awesome. So you got the network of beehives going across the countries.
Speaker:Crazy. Crazy. I wanna talk about
Speaker:some of the challenges that you guys may run run into. So, I mean, what
Speaker:you've done what you've set up, Nana, is a supply chain,
Speaker:you know, problem. Yeah. Yeah. You what the business that you serve is is
Speaker:solving the the supply chain problem. Right? Yeah.
Speaker:Now what I wanna discuss is that with what you're
Speaker:doing, do you see other problems
Speaker:in the industry where you're trying to solve for any
Speaker:supply chain issues in terms of agriculture, food,
Speaker:hospitality? And with you as well, Are there any agriculture
Speaker:Are there any supply chain issues or challenges that you're running into?
Speaker:That you feel like the industry maybe needs needs to address?
Speaker:Or that you're trying to address as your own business?
Speaker:I'll start I'll start with you first. Alright. So
Speaker:during during my market research Mhmm. That was in 2023,
Speaker:realizing that, farmers
Speaker:are So we have a cluster of smallholder farmers. I mean, about
Speaker:80% of the agricultural produce from Ghana
Speaker:are from smallholder farmers. Yeah. And smallholder farmers usually
Speaker:have between 1 to 5 acres of land to
Speaker:farm. Okay. And what happens is that these farmers,
Speaker:most often than not, are not able to coordinate Okay. Among
Speaker:themselves. Yeah. And so what happens is if farmer
Speaker:A is in Navrundo and has the maize
Speaker:crop, farmer B and maybe,
Speaker:another what was the other town in the north? Yeah. Bogatanga.
Speaker:Bogatanga cannot you know, can also has perhaps
Speaker:maize. So these these two farmers cannot they they just cannot
Speaker:collaborate. And for that matter, what happens is that their crops begin to
Speaker:perish. Got it. So we we are trying to solve that
Speaker:problem by because you're trying to aggregate these
Speaker:farmers. Mhmm. So farmer a in Navongo and farmer b in
Speaker:Bogatanga Yeah. Comes to Medio. We get them the produce.
Speaker:We get them access to market and then take their produce
Speaker:to sell to these restaurants who are ready to
Speaker:buy from them. So that's one issue I realized. Another thing
Speaker:is the roads. I don't think for that the private sectors would have
Speaker:to do that. The government really needs to come in because majority
Speaker:of our roads are so bad. Sure. What happens is that
Speaker:the the crops you go and buy, because you don't the roads are so
Speaker:bad, it comes to the warehouse and about 20% of
Speaker:them has just gone bad because of the the
Speaker:just the hikes and the jumping here and there. The the driver just doesn't know
Speaker:how to even maneuver his way around. True, true, true. So I think these are
Speaker:some bottlenecks that are happening in the agricultural industry.
Speaker:If farmers are also able to collaborate successfully, then things will be much
Speaker:better in the agricultural industry. If governments also look at the roads
Speaker:network, people can be able to transport produce to and through
Speaker:with much ease. Ease and quicker as well. Yes. Okay. Great.
Speaker:So, Gideon, you just heard from Nana Coffee in terms of the
Speaker:challenges that from his perspective that he's facing in terms of supply
Speaker:chain and challenges in the industry. How about you for the Honey Palace? What what
Speaker:supply chain challenges are you facing? Honey Palace, I think,
Speaker:the challenges are plenty. They're very plenty.
Speaker:I don't know where to begin from, whether from the side of the government or
Speaker:from the side of the the agricultural space. Let's leave the government because
Speaker:of the elections. We got trouble. The reason I'm saying that the
Speaker:government is because they actually have not looked at
Speaker:the honey speed, the agriculture space. So there's not that sort of
Speaker:regulation. Oh. That's that's where I'm coming from. Anyway,
Speaker:example, for instance, with the gas tax GRE, they would have to
Speaker:just assume a certain in, what's the name, sector
Speaker:taxes on us, but they don't really have
Speaker:more like a streamlined taxes for those of us playing in the honey
Speaker:space or agriculture. So when it comes to the regulatory framework
Speaker:Yeah. It's kind of quite complex. Okay. Especially when it comes to area of tax
Speaker:as well. So that's why I was talking about the government. And
Speaker:so aside the government, in terms of supply chain challenges, they are
Speaker:real. For instance, dealing with farmers is not is not common. It's it's
Speaker:not easy. Example, because of the should I say, unquote, I'm
Speaker:sorry, but to say illiteracy, it could be a problem. And most of our times
Speaker:we realize because a simple issue we are talking about and the
Speaker:understanding you need to speak almost like 5, 10 minutes on something
Speaker:that is so easy, just something so easy. And again, to
Speaker:compliance, with them complying because, we
Speaker:have standards. We have procedures in our productions. So,
Speaker:like, simply comply for instance. It's time for harvest. You're supposed to
Speaker:let us know. We come to you, and then we go to the harvest. Right?
Speaker:You know? Some of them, you would either have them not,
Speaker:like, informing you, and then try to go behind you to
Speaker:harvest and sell to someone else. Meanwhile, you're investing in money
Speaker:of procuring hire procuring beehives. And beehives are very expensive as
Speaker:we speak right now. So Wow. Like What kind of prices are we talking? You
Speaker:know? So some of them will finish saying that, okay. Is is there money that
Speaker:you you use on what the Beehive will give to you? You know? Some
Speaker:too, for instance, we have an agreement of how much you're buying it. And for
Speaker:the time for the others to come, and they will be talking about some different
Speaker:kind of stories. So I don't know. They it kind of brings some kind of
Speaker:challenge to us in that appraisal. Right? But still, I think it's
Speaker:it's quite a good thing. And now that we're looking at what expansion that we
Speaker:are we're currently doing right now, is gonna ensure that we are having a
Speaker:very strong pool of of of giving more farmers to,
Speaker:was to source from. So that's not gonna be a problem to us again. Again,
Speaker:in the honey space, the agriculture space, I would say in Ghana,
Speaker:we are really fragmented. We are not coordinated. Right? There's even a
Speaker:trial of, formation of Ghana beekeepers association
Speaker:is actually is as good as that as as Oh, wow. You know?
Speaker:It's not really something that's really doing, anything. It's not I would say
Speaker:that other sectors are really doing much well. They're they're really doing much well, and
Speaker:they're trying. And they are even representing their, what's in India?
Speaker:Their their their their colleagues, and they are even pushing them for great
Speaker:opportunities, but not. For instance, we went to Gepa, if I
Speaker:could speak, Ghana Espo Espo Authority. Sorry. Ghana
Speaker:Espo Promotion Authorities, Gepa. And they don't really
Speaker:know how to place us, the police. And they're like, they don't really
Speaker:have people like so for instance, when we come in the police,
Speaker:then they would have to see how to,
Speaker:seek for market for us. As in I it's it's really
Speaker:surprising, but that's that's the the thing. So we are more like
Speaker:pioneers in the honey space. That's how I look at us, the Honey Palace. And
Speaker:so we try to do a lot of thing. We try to get a lot
Speaker:of things in place. Right? So that's that's, one side of
Speaker:it. Another side of it has to do with honey. Like, another major
Speaker:challenge is, so I say customer, like perception.
Speaker:So when when you speak about Honey, so we are tackling issue of
Speaker:education. Right? People don't know much about honey. Mhmm. So,
Speaker:do you know they have this mind and, honestly, I I
Speaker:sympathize with them. Because if I didn't also know much about honey, and then I
Speaker:hear that they say people mix stuff with honey and all of that, I would
Speaker:also be really scared. Right? You know? So we have another
Speaker:work, which was we're not supposed to, but it's a work of education.
Speaker:So we are working on partner with some of the North American business stations to
Speaker:begin to educate the public on on on even how to verify
Speaker:what a good honey is. Wow. What a good honey is not. Wow. Right? So
Speaker:those are some of the things that we we are doing. That's incredible. That's so
Speaker:insightful. Thank you for sharing, Gidea. I think the audience is really gonna, you know,
Speaker:learn a lot from that. And just a really quick
Speaker:summary, like, an average day for you, what does that look like? Because, I mean,
Speaker:there's so much, so many moving parts to your to your business. Right. Right.
Speaker:So I start my day at 6:30. Normally sleep
Speaker:somewhere at 4:30, 5 o'clock on the previous day in the morning. Mhmm.
Speaker:My 6 I start at 6:30 because I need to be in the office
Speaker:by any way. And most of the times, it's about
Speaker:meetings with, either our team, our sales
Speaker:team, or our production team meeting with them.
Speaker:Because for me, honestly, should I say training is very
Speaker:important, and I don't assume that they know. And because they're working with us,
Speaker:I don't assume that, okay. Fine. They they are now used to it. So constant
Speaker:training Yeah. Is what I give to them. Yeah. Aside them also is our
Speaker:campus ambassadors training them. And, again, to aside
Speaker:those ones as well, then also is meetings with partners. Yeah. I'm
Speaker:also direct directly active in the market, like, as on the field on
Speaker:daily basis, like, responding to customer issues. And my contacts
Speaker:are with all our customers. My personal contact is with all
Speaker:our customers. In fact, the nearest one is at Portview Hotel. They're just here.
Speaker:They call me in the morning, and they were talking. So I had to attend
Speaker:to them. Yeah. Right? In fact, before so I was just telling him, like,
Speaker:the reason why I didn't got him here late because I had to, like, attend
Speaker:to him and also stop by at the mall to attend to, Vida Cafe.
Speaker:Beautiful. They were your clients as well. Yeah. Beautiful. And, so, like,
Speaker:those are some of the things, you know, that I do, right, on the e
Speaker:biz. And also to, deal with our trainers. I mean, our
Speaker:beef our beef farmers. Mhmm. Currently, we are training a 1000 beekeepers,
Speaker:but, I mean, in the north right now. Wow. They are actually a 5,000
Speaker:people, but then we are starting with a 1,000 in a way. And with a
Speaker:1,000, we are discussing with GIZ. Right? They are coming in to help us
Speaker:with beehives. Right? So we are currently discussing a
Speaker:1,000 beehives with them whilst, we are
Speaker:doing the training. So the training is ongoing right now. So it's been in the
Speaker:north, by east region, not to be to be specific.
Speaker:Yeah. So, like, just actually have my day. I don't know if
Speaker:Wow. I'm able to put it well, but that's how my day. Day. It's incredible.
Speaker:Yeah. No. It sounds it doesn't sound like a boring day at all. It's a
Speaker:bit maybe maybe quite a a packed day, but not a boring day. No. I
Speaker:boring. Yeah. Thank you for showing that Gideon. And how about you, Gideon,
Speaker:another coffee quickly? Well, mine is more spontaneous. Yeah.
Speaker:Because I realized with Gideon his is more structured because it's
Speaker:a larger, organization. So
Speaker:with with Medir, I start my day at 7.
Speaker:I sleep at 12 AM to 1 AM because usually
Speaker:during the night, after I'm done reading, I have to check on my messages again
Speaker:before I sleep. Mhmm. So when I sleep at 12, I usually
Speaker:wake up. 6, 6:30, I meditate.
Speaker:For the gym, I started working out, I stopped. Oh. I've become
Speaker:lazy. And that's that regards to
Speaker:so I mean, anyone who is watching, if you feel like you can motivate me
Speaker:to work out, I mean, I'll be glad to be your gym buddy.
Speaker:But, right after that I zoom in through meetings.
Speaker:So I usually call my team members. We have
Speaker:meetings, and then we try and discuss what we are trying to achieve in the
Speaker:day. Okay. Thereafter, I go to the farms. So I have my driver
Speaker:pick me up. We go to the farms to try and also talk to the
Speaker:farmers, get the produce, and then we bring it to the warehouse. Okay.
Speaker:If we have to supply the same dummies, I would have to supply to the
Speaker:restaurants on the same day. Okay. Nonetheless, most of the times, it is
Speaker:scheduled. So we go some days, we have to go to the farms, we bring
Speaker:the produce to the warehouse. Yeah. The next 2 or 3 days, we are
Speaker:now dispatching to the restaurant. If I'm not
Speaker:doing that, then I'm actually patient to investors.
Speaker:I usually try and raise grants. That's nice. But now
Speaker:from where things are going, we'll need pre seed. So we are trying to
Speaker:structure the the organization in a way that we are
Speaker:ready for pre seed investment. That's pretty Currently, we are in talks with
Speaker:Founder Factory Africa. Mhmm. Shout out to Kudu,
Speaker:to Dolapo and Eunice. Mhmm. Right? Because they are the ones who are
Speaker:in talks with me currently to see how best we they can invest in
Speaker:our company. Mhmm. Brilliant. That's very insightful, Nada. Thanks for
Speaker:sharing, Nada. Sure. In terms of you quickly really quickly,
Speaker:Gideon, in terms of, like, your, like, your
Speaker:day. He talks about doing supplying to, like,
Speaker:vendors. Right? Do you go guys manage the distribution
Speaker:to to your vendors as well, or do they kind of manage from you? Right.
Speaker:Right. So we do the we manage the the the distribution.
Speaker:Okay. But then we have a partner like Trucks that we use
Speaker:to, what's the name, distribute, and also those who order
Speaker:in minimum, sizes, smaller quantities. Okay. As for this month, we
Speaker:actually have free delivery that that we've launched out for this month. Oh, wow. Okay.
Speaker:And so we have our bikes people that will do the delivery and the dispatch
Speaker:to them. Nice. Right. Bikes people. So, like, do you do you part do you
Speaker:partner up on some of the the food platforms? Like, the like, the good like,
Speaker:Bolt Food, Clogos and stuff. But we have a we have 2 bikes. Okay.
Speaker:So we have Oh, wow. Okay. They use that for the delivery. Is
Speaker:that is that within Accraal, outside Accraal? Not within Accraal. Within Accraal. Yeah. But outside
Speaker:Accraal, it's 50% discount. 50% discount for
Speaker:outside of Accra. Okay. Wow. Fantastic. Okay. Cool. Outside
Speaker:of so because you wanna make it more accessible to those outside of the grid.
Speaker:Because of And of course, people in the car, they can afford a lot more
Speaker:than people outside. That's correct. That's a beautiful initiative. So just tell us where you
Speaker:think agriculture is going. You know, like, is it would you say the
Speaker:future is bright? Or would you say,
Speaker:we have a long way to go in terms of Ghana? You or you think
Speaker:the future is gonna be good for us? Right. Thank you.
Speaker:So I think that the the future is definitely very bright.
Speaker:Mhmm. And would agree with the fact that we also have a long way to
Speaker:go. Mhmm. That's that's that's what I was saying. And, because number
Speaker:1, there's that sort of, a very good penetration of
Speaker:technology, Yeah. And almost every area, you realize
Speaker:that different people are coming up with different kind of technological products, you know,
Speaker:in different space, area of coconuts, like, I mean, almost
Speaker:everywhere, like like, the other sort of, technology that's come in. And
Speaker:and I think the ax though the acceptance is not that very rapid as
Speaker:we speak, you know, but then I think it's very encouraging. So,
Speaker:like, definitely, we actually go into something that means somewhere very great. That that's what
Speaker:I can say. I agree with that. Yeah. Okay. Cool. What about you, Nana Nana
Speaker:Coffee? What do you think? Well, I wouldn't want to be a prophet of doom.
Speaker:However, I feel like, just like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker:there's a lot of, stuff going on.
Speaker:For me, in terms of the negatives, right, there is a
Speaker:vast development of infrastructure. So we are
Speaker:clearing parts of, lands that should be used for
Speaker:farming. Day in, day out, farmers are losing their
Speaker:land to real estate. And that means that
Speaker:if real estate is coming in, how are we going to
Speaker:eat in the next 50, 100 years to come?
Speaker:Now you'd also realize the advent of climate change happening.
Speaker:Ghana is experiencing one of the highest recorded
Speaker:heat temperatures this year. And and it's
Speaker:unfortunate. They are saying this is there's worse years coming. I
Speaker:mean, 2025 is going to have one of the hottest years ever
Speaker:in a century. So clearly,
Speaker:that's why I say I don't want to be a prophet of doom, but you
Speaker:realize that agricultural industry is really declining and if
Speaker:people don't step up, what happened is that we
Speaker:would have series of drought and series of famine coming in.
Speaker:But there's still some good news. With the good news, just like Gideon said,
Speaker:technology is coming in the rise. People are getting, access to
Speaker:knowledge. People can farm about maybe,
Speaker:something that a crop of tomato, like, tomatoes could have been grown
Speaker:on 1 acre. Someone can do it on just a
Speaker:small piece of land, which we call the vertical farming.
Speaker:So, clearly, there is still some way, somehow good
Speaker:news for people. And this is this is one thing I tell entrepreneurs, that
Speaker:when you realize that the the challenges are enormous, that's when you should
Speaker:jump in. So if you see that agriculture is gonna be
Speaker:a a trend in between 30, a lot of people would would I
Speaker:mean, Africans would even double their population.
Speaker:Then you should jump on right now, hop in, and see where you fit in
Speaker:agricultural supply chain to see how you can best solve their
Speaker:problems. Okay. And that's a great segue in terms
Speaker:of tips to people that wanna get to agriculture. Was that how would you say
Speaker:that's the tip you would recommend that if you can jump in now, jump in
Speaker:now? Yeah. If if you can jump in, jump in now. Because just like I
Speaker:explained, there are series of problems lurking in the agricultural
Speaker:industry. And so it means
Speaker:it signifies that we need more people now, more
Speaker:entrepreneurs to come on board to see how best we can solve these
Speaker:problems. Yeah. Talk of climate change, talk of supply chains, talk
Speaker:of access to quality honey and quality fresh
Speaker:produce. Right? So we need more of these young innovators out there to
Speaker:also come on board because the future is is bright.
Speaker:Brilliant. Okay. And, Gideon, tip
Speaker:one one tip to an entrepreneur or someone that's aspiring entrepreneur
Speaker:once again to agriculture. It's
Speaker:hard. That's and it's important
Speaker:that you accept the fact that it's hard. People go into
Speaker:entrepreneurship, whether, should I say, like,
Speaker:looking at this all these details. For instance, this morning, one of
Speaker:my journalist friend reached out to me, and
Speaker:he was telling about one company that I
Speaker:always admire. And he was telling me what's actually going in,
Speaker:to extend that they are having extreme liquidity issues,
Speaker:debt Mhmm. Challenges and stuff. And so I was
Speaker:like, wow. Then he said, not all those glitters are
Speaker:gold, so so to speak. I think a lot of
Speaker:people, when I'm speaking with my colleague, like business guys, people who are interested in
Speaker:business, like, they are actually carried away by the, should I
Speaker:say, the glamorous side of the hotel, looking at
Speaker:entrepreneurs, like, maybe driving the best cars, leaving the best houses
Speaker:and stuff. So they feel like, okay. That's just how it's gonna be. Mhmm. But
Speaker:they don't know that there's a mad sign. So I would advise that anyone going
Speaker:into entrepreneurship when all considering that, just know that it's hard.
Speaker:That's the truth. And it's about just I mean, accepting that
Speaker:it's hard, that you cannot make the best out of it. Because when you go
Speaker:in with a soft mind, thinking that, oh, no, it's not really supposed to be
Speaker:that. No. You're disappointed. Right? So it's hard work,
Speaker:it's so tough, but it's also one of the most rewarding, and I will
Speaker:never treat my philosophy venture for anything. So, yeah,
Speaker:that's what I can say. Brilliant. And the coffee, paper coming to shove, Gideon. Thank
Speaker:you. And paper coming to shove. Thank you. Thank you. Really quickly, 2024,
Speaker:what's in store? So the Honey Palace, we've rolled
Speaker:out, hoping to train a 5,000 beekeepers Wow.
Speaker:Into beekeeping. We've already start started with the first 75,000
Speaker:people in Nobrongu. That's in the upper east region that we've started.
Speaker:And, also, the next, cohort are going to start
Speaker:from in Boahafu region, and that's actually where we do, our
Speaker:casu casu. That's what we produce from. Yeah. That kind of thing.
Speaker:And, again, to this year of 2024, we've
Speaker:actually just opened a small shop in Lagos, Nigeria. That's where the
Speaker:Honeywell is extension. And we are looking at, like, actually
Speaker:expanding it more in Lagos space. And, again, in the
Speaker:across the northern territory, we are looking at launch that 1st room
Speaker:in Tamale to be Wow. To be specific. That's another
Speaker:thing. And 2024, we are going fully into exports
Speaker:ourselves. Wow. Now we were actually doing the exports through a third
Speaker:party. Mhmm. Right? So far, but through the when the diasporas
Speaker:came, a lot of them came to our house, and a lot of them took
Speaker:interest in what we're doing. So, that's that's another thing that
Speaker:we are going to look at, fully export ourselves, like, you know, so
Speaker:getting the, certification, the ACHOSAT trade fair, then
Speaker:gap Yeah. You know, certification that would allow us to go to export
Speaker:to, the US, the UK, and the Europe. Exciting. That's something.
Speaker:So that's, what I can say about us. And
Speaker:into 2025, then they're starting with the the establishment of a honey
Speaker:plant. Hey. Let's leave it there. So I'll be. 2025.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's that's it for
Speaker:us. So wow. I mean, I think the future is really bright for you guys.
Speaker:Right. Okay. And and where where can everyone find the Honey Palace and grab hold
Speaker:of the honey? So you mentioned some of the locations Right. Websites, social media.
Speaker:Good. So the Honey Palace, our website is the honeypaliceafrica.com. You can
Speaker:find us on LinkedIn, the Honey Palace. You can find us on IG,
Speaker:Facebook, the Honey Palace, Twitter, the Honey Palace. Yeah. So we're everywhere.
Speaker:Thank you. Brilliant. Thanks. And then what about you, 2024?
Speaker:2024 looks promising. Mhmm. For us,
Speaker:just like I said, we've launched our platform. So in 2024,
Speaker:we envisage that at least it should be across all 16 regions
Speaker:in Ghana. In 2024 too, we are looking at working with
Speaker:promise and Accelerator Pro, and Venture Investors.
Speaker:Just like I mentioned, Founders Factory Africa is is on top of the list.
Speaker:We're also looking forward to work with some investors from
Speaker:Switzerland. They are also very interested in what we are doing.
Speaker:So this year, we envisage that we should have at least some that
Speaker:we should have launched our platform into the other 15 regions because currently
Speaker:it's just Accra we are we are working in. So 15
Speaker:regions using it. We should also have installed our wind turbine
Speaker:so that we can be able to increase the shelf life of our produce in
Speaker:our warehouse to as much as 30 days. And we should
Speaker:also have also revamped our logistics. Currently, we're just using
Speaker:2 vans. So we want to maybe partner with
Speaker:logistic partners. So anyone listening to this podcast, you
Speaker:can reach out to us. So we see how best we can collaborate, so we
Speaker:can be able to more or less scale, our
Speaker:procurement to other regions and restaurants across Ghana.
Speaker:Excited. Beautiful. Wow, judgment. You can reach
Speaker:out to us on LinkedIn, Merdeo Foods,
Speaker:m e r d e o, Foods, f o
Speaker:d s, and also on,
Speaker:Facebook and Instagram. Excellent. Well, we'll have all
Speaker:of this, the, the links, key references, wisdom, keys
Speaker:in the show notes. You guys can head over to the thesoundofaccra.com/agritech.
Speaker:That's thesoundofaccra.com/agritech for today's
Speaker:show notes. That's ag, r I t
Speaker:e c h. Okay? We'll leave links to their social medias
Speaker:and their websites in the description below. If you're watching on YouTube or if you're
Speaker:listening on the podcast platforms, Gentlemen, this has been a very insightful
Speaker:conversation. Thank you for sharing insights in terms of what's happening in the supply chain,
Speaker:what's happening in agriculture, what's happening in the food, hospitality industry from
Speaker:your perspective? Where where you think the future is going and some very compelling
Speaker:stories in terms of how you started and and how it's going and where where
Speaker:is where where you guys are heading to. I'm really excited to see what's
Speaker:gonna happen in the in the coming years. But, yeah, there you have it guys.
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