Welcome to Close it now, an H Vac sales training podcast with Sam Wakefield.
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Speaker AThis is Sam Wakefield.
Speaker BAlright, here we go.
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Speaker BMaybe this will work this time.
Speaker BNot technical issues, but I tell you what, every single episode I've recorded has really been just like one take and then it's done, right?
Speaker BSo if you've listened for a long time, you've heard me, you know, almost getting driven off the road in between appointments and all kind of stuff.
Speaker BBut for whatever reason I can't get my words together today.
Speaker BSo this will be a good one.
Speaker BWe are moving forward.
Speaker BToday's episode is brought to you by a lot of people who've been asking me questions about what does the conversation sound like for a service technician to turn an appointment over to a comfort consultant?
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BWhat is the.
Speaker BCall it a flip, call it a tgl, a tech generated lead, whatever it is that you call it.
Speaker BThe same thing.
Speaker BBasically service tech's in the house, something's broken.
Speaker BThe conversation is surrounding do we put money into it or do we get a quote for a new one?
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BThat's the conversation.
Speaker BThe thing is, so many times homeowners are leery, they don't want the salesperson that coming in and just going to force them into something.
Speaker BAnd basically our industry has been given a black eye for the last 20 or 30 years by these companies coming in that have such artificially inflated prices.
Speaker BI'm not talking about there's nothing wrong with being the highest priced company in your market.
Speaker BWhat I am talking about is companies coming in that are just absurdly, obscenely higher than the entire rest of the world in your area.
Speaker BAnd things just don't work that way, right?
Speaker BAnd so these companies are coming in and they're taking advantage of people and just forcing them into something that they have buyer's remorse like crazy.
Speaker BNow if you're going to have a high price, which I highly recommend that you do, you better sure as hell show the value and provide the value.
Speaker BThe more that you raise your prices and the more pressure you put on yourself to actually deliver the value that you're promising and guaranteeing.
Speaker BSo it holds us at a higher standard, which is exciting and it's awesome.
Speaker BAnd so it's time to raise the standard of the industry anyway.
Speaker BAnd raising your prices will do that because now you got to actually deliver on what you're promising.
Speaker BYou can't be the deadbeat that just comes in and maybe throws slaps a new system in or fixes something is down the road.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BSo you have to actually be there to deliver, to build relationship, to take care of homeowners over time.
Speaker BThat's why we don't call them customers, we call them clients.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BWhat is a customer?
Speaker BA customer is somebody that walks into a gas station and buys a pack of gum and you may never see them again.
Speaker BA client is somebody you've built a relationship with to do business with over and over and over for the long term.
Speaker BSo that's why in this podcast, you'll hear a conversation a lot of times around the lifetime value of a client, which is a lot of fun, because that's a whole different number than, oh, we made a sale and now let's get down the road.
Speaker BSo we're not, you know, growing our business to sell it tomorrow.
Speaker BSome of you might, which is also really a fun, fun thing to do to begin with.
Speaker BThe end in sight.
Speaker BBut that's a conversation for another day.
Speaker BSo before we get into this conversation around, you know, what does it sound like for a service technician to turn a lead over to a comfort consultant?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo there's two parts to this.
Speaker BOne is mindset, and the second is the actual words we're going to say.
Speaker BAnd we're going to cover them in that order for a very important reason.
Speaker BWhen we get to that here in a minute.
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Speaker BAnd yeah, let's get into this content today because this is a big one.
Speaker BI've been getting so many questions about what that sounds like when the technicians turn over the appointment and it's really fun.
Speaker BSo first of all, let's talk about mindset.
Speaker BIf you are a service technician or you're a selling tech or you're a service technician, that needs to learn better conversation around the flip.
Speaker BHere is a great place to start.
Speaker BFirst of all, it's mindset.
Speaker BMore than likely like the rest of us, you became a service tech to fix things.
Speaker BAnd at the end of the day, and this is the conversation I have with so many service techs when we ask them why this is an old system, why didn't you turn it over?
Speaker BOr this one has major problems, why didn't you turn it over?
Speaker BThey'll say, well, I can fix it.
Speaker BWell, of course you can fix it.
Speaker BIf it was at your house.
Speaker BYeah, you just go grab a part and throw it on and you'd fix it.
Speaker BYes, we get it.
Speaker BAbsolutely, 100%.
Speaker BHowever, my question is, is that in the best interest of the homeowner?
Speaker BThe thing that we have to remember is what does a homeowner buy from us?
Speaker BNever in a single day did anybody wake up and say, oh my gosh, I want to buy a new air conditioner, I want to buy a new furnace or I need a new air filter.
Speaker BNo, what do they want to buy that is that we don't sell a single thing that homeowners want to buy.
Speaker BWhat we do sell, what we do provide is we have to view through the benefit lens, which is one service.
Speaker BBut that's not really the benefit.
Speaker BThe benefit is peace of mind, right?
Speaker BThey want peace of mind that this thing is going to work and it's not going to break down.
Speaker BEveryone hates a breakdown, right?
Speaker BThey want the peace of mind that it's going to be cool when they want to be cool, warm when they want to be warm.
Speaker BThe temperature and the humidity is going to be where they want it to be.
Speaker BThey're not going to have to deal with the peace of mind that they're not going to have to live with horrible allergies anymore.
Speaker BThey're not going to have to live with horrible humidity issues anymore.
Speaker BAll of the things that are the benefits of why they do business with us.
Speaker BBecause at the end of the day, if they could have every bit of that and never have to spend a single dollar with a heating and air company, they would.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BPeople would live in the perfect climate if they could.
Speaker BAlso, the other thing to remember is if they understood our equipment and our accessories and all the different things we can do for them, they would already have it.
Speaker BIf they understood it, they would already have it.
Speaker BSo where's the disconnect?
Speaker BThe disconnect is either A we haven't told them it exists, they just have no clue that any of the things that we can do for them exist because we didn't tell them, or 2B A and 2A and B, more than likely what happened is somebody's tried to pitch on something.
Speaker BIt came across horribly salesy.
Speaker BThe homeowner said, oh well, you're just trying to sell me something that I don't need.
Speaker BAnd what happened?
Speaker BThere was zero explanation of what the benefit for them was going to be and what life was going to look like once they have it installed.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BSo that's the disconnect.
Speaker BSo the mindset here, I'm speaking to you, service technician, the mindset is what is the best way to help the homeowner?
Speaker BThe best way to help the homeowner is them buying from us.
Speaker BNow if that's a repair, great.
Speaker BIf that's a new system replacement, great.
Speaker BBut remember, you have to filter it through the lens of the benefit for the homeowner.
Speaker BAnd I'm going to give you some verbiage here to help clarify with them a little bit of what that's going to look like.
Speaker BBut your mindset has to be one to help stop trying to spend the homeowners money with repairs and replacement because you can't afford it.
Speaker BThere's a book I want to recommend to you right now that is a must read.
Speaker BAnyone who coaches with me, this is a must read.
Speaker BIt's a short, simple little book.
Speaker BIt's called Go four.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BFind that book.
Speaker BRead it or listen to it in your drive time University.
Speaker BIt's really quick and it will change so many things.
Speaker BThe two biggest things it helps you overcome.
Speaker BOne is spending money for the homeowner, right?
Speaker BYou're in control of the sale.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BBut you are not in control of their finances.
Speaker BWe have to forget the numbers, follow the process, follow the system.
Speaker BThe numbers will take care of themselves.
Speaker BSo it's going to overcome that for you and it'll help you overcome when the appointment is over, when is the sale over?
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BSo stop thinking people can't afford things, offer things and let them tell you if they want it or not.
Speaker BThere's a big difference there.
Speaker BSo start with go for no.
Speaker BThat is a great book in this moment.
Speaker BBut the best way to help homeowners is just, you know, helping them because we know if they don't pay, if they don't pay our prices and go with us, we know we're the best in town, right?
Speaker BWe're going to give the best service.
Speaker BWe're giving them the best installation, the best customer service, the best care.
Speaker BIf they don't go with us and they go with somebody else, what happens?
Speaker BMore than likely, there's a good chance they're going to get taken advantage of.
Speaker BSomebody's going to come in and cut some corners.
Speaker BThey're not going to do it right.
Speaker BAnd the homeowner is going to be faced with bigger issues down the road because it just wasn't done right to start with.
Speaker BSo the best way that we can help people is them buying from us.
Speaker BWe cannot help them if they don't buy from us and we can't do it for free or we would be out of business, too, just like the other deadbeat companies.
Speaker BSo, mindset, it's service, right?
Speaker BIt's not that we're selling them anything.
Speaker BWe're showing them options and letting them buy.
Speaker BNow, here is the verbiage that I want you to start using in the home, which will make such a huge difference for you if you're, you know, especially if you're a service technician.
Speaker BAnd this is for anybody, all you consultants out there listening too, right?
Speaker BSo you go in a house and tell me if the situation has ever come up that the homeowner you're there, they've got the repair price and they're trying to decide if they want to repair or replace.
Speaker BAnd so many times if you can't close them on the new deal, then they go back to the repair and you've lost out.
Speaker BYeah, the company gets the repair, but you didn't make the sale, you didn't get the commission and you just wasted a couple hours of your time.
Speaker BRaise your hand if you hate that.
Speaker BI know I did and I do.
Speaker BSo let's discuss some things, how to overcome some of this.
Speaker BSo the same conversation is going to happen if you're a service technician and really a lot of times you get resistance around if they want to know one, you've given them the repair pricing.
Speaker BBut so many times there's resistance to flipping the appointment to a comfort advisor and the homeowner is really resistant to it if they don't have any kind of a ballpark price of what a new system is going to cost.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd I will tell you, do not ballpark 100% don't ballpark.
Speaker BThere's too many variables.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BBut here's the best way to handle this.
Speaker BCouple different ways to handle this conversation.
Speaker BAnd if you're a comfort advisor and you're sitting in the house, this conversation is going to, you need to know this conversation as well.
Speaker BSo get this verbiage in your mouth and it will change everything for you.
Speaker BSo one, it's through questions, right?
Speaker BWe've got to ask the right questions.
Speaker BAnd this doesn't matter, you know, really matter what the, the age of the equipment is or the repair cost, but it does.
Speaker BNormally this falls into the category of say a system is between like you know, seven or eight years old and you know, 10, 11 years old.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSomewhere in that middle point, this is where this conversation applies the best.
Speaker BAnd this is where most of the struggle happens too.
Speaker BBecause we know if a system is less than say six or seven years old, it's a basic repair typically.
Speaker BSo unless there's an anomaly and something major happens, it's basically, you know, a really basic repair.
Speaker BSo or, and at the same time, if it's over, say 12 years, 13 years old, it's a no brainer.
Speaker BIt should be flipped over, right?
Speaker BIt should be tech generated lead should be turned over to the comfort advisor.
Speaker BBut the middle ground is where the biggest questions come in.
Speaker BThe middle ground of that 7 or 8 year old system all the way up to maybe 11 years old somewhere in that range.
Speaker BThat's the one that is like how do we get this turned over?
Speaker BThere's a lot of resistance here.
Speaker BPeople are like, well, it could make a lot more years service technicians.
Speaker BI have to slap your hands on this so many times.
Speaker BYou said, oh yeah, it could go on for a long time.
Speaker BWell, my question to you is, do you have a crystal ball?
Speaker BHow do you know?
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BAnd so stop telling people lies.
Speaker BThat is not the truth.
Speaker BIt could, you're right.
Speaker BIt's a half truth though, because it could break down next week.
Speaker BYou never know.
Speaker BWe don't this.
Speaker BSo stop trying to predict the future for the homeowner strictly because you're scared to tell them the honest truth.
Speaker BDon't paint a picture to too bright strictly because you're scared to face a homeowner with the honest truth because you think that they're going to, you know, not buy from you or not use you for the repair or whatever.
Speaker BSo first of all, we gotta, we gotta have to stop doing that.
Speaker BBut the conversation is a really fun one because it comes up in the form of a question.
Speaker BSo here you go.
Speaker BHere is the verbiage.
Speaker BWhen the system is in that range, you know, seven to, you know, seven or eight years to about 11 years somewhere in there, that sweet spot that this is where you can make the most change in your bottom line by having this conversation.
Speaker BSo start with asking the homeowner.
Speaker BYou know, you're going through, you're showing them the repair options and they're like, well, you know what, what would that look like for, you know, maybe a new one.
Speaker BThat's all.
Speaker BGeez, that's a lot of money for repair.
Speaker BYep, I agree, Mr.
Speaker BHomeowner.
Speaker BAnd there start asking that, you know, those questions, well, what's a new one cost?
Speaker BFirst of all, don't just hit that head on.
Speaker BBasically, you know, give them the, hey, listen, I'm the mechanic.
Speaker BYou know, you go to the mechanic and this is the best analogy to use too say, listen, I'm the mechanic on this thing.
Speaker BYou go to the mechanic to know all the ins and outs of the details and the pieces and parts, but you're not going to the mechanic to buy a new one.
Speaker BSo listen, I don't have all the pricing on that, but do you mind if I ask you a couple questions?
Speaker BSo we're turning it into a question.
Speaker BSo first of all, we are kind of handling it head on, but we're giving them, when you're a service technician and you want to make the turnover and they are asking for a ballpark, hands up, just kind of like in surrender.
Speaker BSay, listen, I'm the mechanic here, I know every bit of the ins and outs of how to fix this thing, how to make it work properly, when it's a good idea to fix it and when it's not a good idea to fix it, that's my expertise.
Speaker BWhat I don't know.
Speaker BJust like when you go to the mechanic to have your car fixed, they're not going to be able to give you all of the latest pricing on the new car.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThey'll agree with you.
Speaker BSo then the question, then we get our permission question in.
Speaker BDo you mind if I ask you a couple questions?
Speaker BThe homeowner will say, sure, that's when you ask them.
Speaker BSo listen, at this point of the conversation or this point in the life of a heating and air system, it's kind of like this.
Speaker BAnd we're going to make a car comparison and take it right back to the car.
Speaker BSo right at this point in your heating and air system's lifespan is, we're going to start talking about lifespan.
Speaker BIt's just like if your car hit that hundred thousand mile mark.
Speaker BSo let me ask you this, Mr.
Speaker BHomeowner, are you the type of person that when your car hits 100 to 120,000 miles, are you the type of person that's going to spend money on larger maintenance and repairs?
Speaker BNow's the time you would have to start replacing the timing belt and the, maybe the alternator and some of the more major things to do a full tune up on the vehicle so it can run another hundred thousand miles for you.
Speaker BOr are you the type of person that when it hits that 100, 120,000 mile mark and you know those major repairs are coming up, you say, you know what, I'm going to trade this off, I don't want to deal with it.
Speaker BWe'll let the next person take care of that.
Speaker BI'm just going to go for a new one for a nice small, comfortable, easy monthly payment.
Speaker BWhich one are you?
Speaker BAnd let them answer.
Speaker BAnd that will direct you how to flip it.
Speaker BNow also by asking those questions, that's going to open that homeowner's mind to the real comparison here.
Speaker BBecause quick pop out in this conversation, the problem most technicians have with generating tech generated leads is they think that the number comparison is, we'll call it a $2,500 repair cost or two or $3,000 repair cost.
Speaker BThey think the homeowner thinks the price comparison is 2 or $3,000 in repair versus say 10, 15, $20,000 for a new system.
Speaker BNo, that's a wrong mis comparison.
Speaker BAnd you'll hear this as I explain it in what I just did in that verbiage I gave you.
Speaker BThe comparison is Mr.
Speaker BHomeowner.
Speaker BIt's yeah, it's, you know, and I.
Speaker BAnd another quick pop out.
Speaker BI hope you're financing repair, I hope you're financing service because if you're not financing service, you're missing a massive opportunity for revenue.
Speaker BSo quick aside, make sure that your company, you or your company, if you own your company, make sure you're doing this.
Speaker BIf you're not, if you're at a company that doesn't do this, bring it up, recommend it, you should be financing service.
Speaker BThe real comparison here though is it is 2000 or $3000 repair cost.
Speaker BOr if somebody is on a say we're financing the comparison and we take everybody down the financing route, they'll tell you if they're cash buyers, most people finance.
Speaker BSo the comparison is 2,000 or $3,000 or zero cash out of pocket today.
Speaker BYou don't even make your payment for another month from now.
Speaker BAnd when it starts, it's a nice, small, comfortable, easy monthly payment.
Speaker BInsert story.
Speaker BIn fact, I heard of a lady just the other day that she didn't cost her anything up front.
Speaker BA month later when the payment started it was like 120 bucks.
Speaker BAnd that got her going and she was perfectly happy with a brand new system.
Speaker BNow she's got a decade of worry free service, a decade plus knowing she's got peace of mind, it's not going to be breaking down on her.
Speaker BSo when that time comes in your vehicle, that 100,000 mile mark, are you the type of person that spends the money to repair it to get another hundred thousand miles?
Speaker BOr you trade that sucker off and you go for the payment on the new one because you know you're going to have headache free peace of mind for another hundred thousand miles and not be on the edge worrying about is it going to break down or not, which one are you?
Speaker BLet them answer.
Speaker BOnce they answer, remember the comparison.
Speaker BAnd they're still going to try to get a ballpark from you.
Speaker BThrow your hands up.
Speaker BListen, I'm the mechanic, I know all of the details.
Speaker BI'm an expert.
Speaker BI know all the details of how these operate, every bit, every part and piece of it and what they're supposed to be doing and what they're supposed to not be doing.
Speaker BBut I don't, I can't keep up with that.
Speaker BAnd all the pricing on the new equipment.
Speaker BThat's why we have somebody who to come out and go over all of that with you.
Speaker BNow, from a technician's perspective, would you like to hear what the equipment will do for you?
Speaker BAnd that right there is the turning point to take that homeowner right into the benefit lens because it is your job as a technician to get them excited about the benefits of what the equipment is going to do for them.
Speaker BSo you're taking off your technician's hat.
Speaker BWe're going to stop talking technical stuff.
Speaker BYou're going to put on your benefit hat basically and then start talking to the homeowner about the benefits of each level of equipment.
Speaker BNow go back and listen to the how to describe the modulating equipment episode and that will help you or if we coach together, obviously you're going to learn the method that is guaranteed to close an insanely higher percentage of modulating and variable speed equipment.
Speaker BSo listen to that.
Speaker BAlso, I'm about to release next week is going to be an episode with that same conversation, but with a heating focus.
Speaker BSince we're in November into December, we're getting into winter months and a lot of heating replacement is happening.
Speaker BBut that's the conversation.
Speaker BSo you take them through the system descriptions, but only from the benefit lens.
Speaker BStop talking about all the technical junk.
Speaker BHomeowner cares about the benefit.
Speaker BThey don't want to know how it's going to get from 0 to 60, they just want to know how long it's going to take to get there.
Speaker BSo take them through the benefits, get them excited about it, but don't give them ballparks, don't give them pricing.
Speaker BInstead what you do is it's a few thousand dollars repair today or whatever the repair is today, or, you know, if you go with a new one, if you're the type of person that swaps the car out for the new one.
Speaker BWhen you get into, you know, this lifespan, listen, it's not going to cost you anything today or when it does, it's going to be a nice, small, comfortable, easy monthly payments and that just that's it.
Speaker BThat's all you have to say.
Speaker BAnd when they say, well, what's the ballpark?
Speaker BYou're like, listen, it's just like buying a car.
Speaker BI can't tell you what you're going to be, what you're going to want to look at.
Speaker BBut say you buy a, you know, a truck from, you know, Chevy, right?
Speaker BYou're going to, you know, or Ford or whatever, it doesn't matter.
Speaker BYou can buy the work truck or you can buy all the way to the super expensive all decked out truck.
Speaker BThere's a lot of models in between.
Speaker BIt's the same thing.
Speaker BSo there's no way I could ballpark it for you because I don't even know what's going to be the best fit for you here.
Speaker BThat's why they're sending somebody else.
Speaker BI'm the mechanic, I fix it, we'll make it work.
Speaker BAnd people understand that, right?
Speaker BThat's the easiest conversation.
Speaker BBut man the verbiage around.
Speaker BAre you the type of person that fixes it at 100,000 miles or you're going to replace it?
Speaker BLet them answer that question and then ask them but why though?
Speaker BAnd they'll tell you their reasoning.
Speaker BThen boom.
Speaker BThat is what's going to direct you in.
Speaker BIt'll be a much easier turnover.
Speaker BAnd also what will happen is on your repair side when they're the person says, oh, I'm the person that's going to make the major replacement repairs to make it last another hundred thousand miles.
Speaker BHere's your tip and the trick for service, if you own your company, put together bundles of complete system rejuvenation or reinvigorating or whatever you want to call your system resurrection or whatever you're calling it.
Speaker BFactory reset.
Speaker BIt's the factory reset bundle.
Speaker BThese are the bundles that you're going to have for, you know, in the fall furnace tune up appointment.
Speaker BWhen it's that system that's in that, that year range, you know, you're going to be replacing the blower motor and the capacitor and the hot service igniter and the flame sensor, cleaning the, you know, cleaning the squirrel cage and cleaning all of, just clean everything, right?
Speaker BWax that sucker.
Speaker BAnd the price point on that is going to be, you know, two or three thousand bucks, right?
Speaker BMake it where it's a great service ticket for you.
Speaker BAnd also you're replacing all of the main components that could possibly fail on that equipment.
Speaker BSo it will last another, you know, five, six, seven, eight years.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BSame thing in when you're doing a cool, you're out for a cooling call.
Speaker BWhen they answer, oh, I'm the person that does the major repairs.
Speaker BOkay, no problem.
Speaker BWell, what most homeowners do in your situation, I have something you're really going to like.
Speaker BWhat most homeowners do in your situation is they go for this, our rejuvenation pack or the factory reset.
Speaker BWhat we're going to do is we're going to place all of the major components that could possibly for all of These failures.
Speaker BNow, just like in your car, you know, say you do these and the main engine dies.
Speaker BYou know, we have no control over that.
Speaker BHowever, you would agree, probably, I'm sure you would agree, that when you take care of all of the things that support the main operation, the heart of the equipment runs better and smoother and lasts longer.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BPerfect.
Speaker BSo what we're going to do for cooling is have yourself a service bundle that's going to change not only the contactor or the capacitor, but the contactor.
Speaker BYou're putting a hard start kit in.
Speaker BYou're replacing blower, you're replacing condenser, fan motor, replacing all of the main things, everything outside of the coil and the compressor, change it.
Speaker BAll right?
Speaker BAnd so that homeowner is now like, wow, this is the package, right?
Speaker BBecause it's like, this is going to give me peace of mind for years and years.
Speaker BAnd now you've got a big service ticket.
Speaker BAnd what did you do?
Speaker BYou earned trust with the homeowner.
Speaker BSo let them tell you what they want to do.
Speaker BBut I'm telling you, everyone, strictly by having the conversation of, are you the type of person that's going to dump money into it and dump money into it and dump money into it to try to drive the wheels off, or are you the type of person says, you know what, let's pass this on to the next person?
Speaker BI just want a nice small payment and peace of mind for a decade.
Speaker BAnd even when somebody answers that, they're the person that likes to dump money into something to drive the wheels off.
Speaker BAsk one more time.
Speaker BWould you like to at least see the comparison to.
Speaker BBecause I don't know if you knew this.
Speaker BI just heard about some really great programs that just started that didn't cost anything today?
Speaker BInstead of paying a couple thousand bucks for the repair, it didn't cost anything.
Speaker BPayment won't even start for a month later.
Speaker BAnd I heard about a lady just the other day.
Speaker BHer payment was like $135, and it got her peace of mind for a decade that she's not going to have any more of these issues.
Speaker BWould you like to see what that looks like?
Speaker BSo ask again.
Speaker BMake them tell you no.
Speaker BIf they tell you no, no problem.
Speaker BBut when you set the frame of this conversation up with asking them what type of person they are, helping them see that one, you're the mechanic.
Speaker BYou're not the person that has all the pricing on the new equipment.
Speaker BBut also, it's not just the mechanic.
Speaker BYou know, all of the ins and out and all the details of every piece.
Speaker BSo you're the expert and that's why you work as a team for this.
Speaker BWhen you help them see that and you set the right frame for the conversation, boy, that turnover conversation is so much easier to have.
Speaker BSo I hope this was helpful to you today.
Speaker BThis is a very actionable item, especially right now as we're getting into this is November 27th.
Speaker BI'm recording this the week after Thanksgiving.
Speaker BHope everyone had an incredible Thanksgiving time with family.
Speaker BPersonally, I unplugged for the first time in my career for an entire week and loved every second of it.
Speaker BAnd I could only do that because I'm so grateful for every single one of you listeners.
Speaker BI tell you, 18 years.
Speaker BI almost got divorced last year because I was working my face off all the time and it's not worth it.
Speaker BTake time to unplug and spend time with your family.
Speaker BIt is worth every single second because the only people that are going to remember daddy worked late or mama worked late years later are your kids.
Speaker BAnd they're the ones that are going to be missing you for the rest of their lives or you're not creating a bond.
Speaker BSo do it.
Speaker BTake the time for your family.
Speaker BSo I was able to do that.
Speaker BSo thank you, every single one of you, from the very bottom of my heart.
Speaker BI'm so grateful.
Speaker BBut was this a good episode?
Speaker BIf it was, leave me a five star review.
Speaker BI would appreciate that also.
Speaker BI am.
Speaker BBig, huge announcement.
Speaker BI should have put this at the beginning of the episode, but I am hosting the first Close it now sales masterclass.
Speaker BIt's going to be in Austin, Texas.
Speaker BI don't have the exact date yet.
Speaker BAs soon as I do, I'm going to announce it, but it is going to be off the chart.
Speaker BIf this is the type and this is kind of an offhanded conversation that we have all the time.
Speaker BIf this kind of content trips your trigger and you resonate with how I train things, you've got to get to the sales masterclass.
Speaker BI'm so excited.
Speaker BThe first one is going to be at a undisclosed location, but it's going to be awesome.
Speaker BIt's going to be here in the Austin, Texas area.
Speaker BSo come down.
Speaker BWe will have great barbecue, we're going to have tacos and we're going to set it off.
Speaker BIt's going to be incredible.
Speaker BAnd I guarantee you, you will go back and multiply your numbers or you just didn't implement because I don't have a single person who has gone through the material that if they implement, oh my gosh, it is insane how their numbers are just dramatically different.
Speaker BSo you could be like my buddy Josh Baca, shout out to you, Josh.
Speaker BHe called me when he was in fact our very first phone conversation.
Speaker BHe said, man, I'm about to be fired.
Speaker BMy numbers are so awful.
Speaker BAnd was it three we coached together.
Speaker BThree months later he was number one in his company and now he is killing it up there in Colorado.
Speaker BSo Colorado Springs.
Speaker BSo good on you, Josh Baca.
Speaker BLove it, man.
Speaker BKeep up the good work.
Speaker BOr you know, there's story after story of that exact same thing have happened.
Speaker BPeople that were bottom rung and they coach with me and you know, three, four months later they're number one in their company.
Speaker BSo if you want that to be you, you know there's more in the tank and you just don't know quite how to get there.
Speaker BLet's get on the phone.
Speaker BWe've got some coaching together.
Speaker BWe've got this masterclass coming up.
Speaker BIt is going to be worth the trip, right?
Speaker BIf you're at a company, actually if you own a company and you know, you maybe don't necessarily want to have me out for the whole company, but you've got a couple key people, you know, a handful of key people you want to send to the event.
Speaker BLet's talk because we will up level them like nobody's business and they'll come back and just go out there and be killers and just like slay dragons, destroy in the marketplace where they were.
Speaker BYou know, we're doing maybe even doing good before.
Speaker BBut let's raise some numbers.
Speaker BYou can't come to one of my events and not have the fire inside to go out and completely change the dynamics of the culture around you, not to mention the sales numbers.
Speaker BSo that is going to be happening.
Speaker BIt's mostly going to be announced in the Facebook group.
Speaker BSo you make sure you join the close it now Facebook group and also email me so you can get on the email list and get a blasted out through there as well.
Speaker BBut other than that, everybody, hope your Thanksgiving was great.
Speaker BI'm excited to get to.
Speaker BSo many things are happening.
Speaker BYou've got to get to doortodorecon7 in Salt Lake City.
Speaker BGo to hvacdoors.net you can get your event ticket there.
Speaker BUse the discount code SAMW10.
Speaker BThat'll get you 10% off the code.
Speaker BThat's also where you can pick up the H VACU course.
Speaker BThat's the entire sales system plus all of the scripting and verbiage for door knocking for H Vac.
Speaker BSo if you haven't heard, that is totally disrupting the industry this year because new client acquisition at a tenth of the cost and there's unlimited numbers so you never ran out of leads.
Speaker BIt's incredible.
Speaker BSo anyway, that's what we got going today.
Speaker BThanks for listening everybody.
Speaker BWe're gonna flip it around this time because it's wintertime.
Speaker BGo save the world one frostbite at a time.
Speaker BGo save the world one heat stroke at a time.
Speaker BI will talk to you soon.
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