1 00:00:09,610 --> 00:00:14,450 Hello, friend, this is Timothy Kimo, Brian, your head instigator for create art 2 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,410 podcast, where I bring more over 30 years of experience in the arts and educational 3 00:00:19,410 --> 00:00:24,490 world to help you tame your inner critic and create more than you consume. 4 00:00:25,490 --> 00:00:30,970 So this year in 2024, I am doing what's called the Making Fun a Habit series. 5 00:00:31,010 --> 00:00:36,269 And that's based on the book by Michael Brennan, who also runs the 6 00:00:36,310 --> 00:00:41,319 Creative Chats podcast, and who I had the privilege of interviewing on my 7 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,220 other podcast, Find a Podcast About. 8 00:00:45,250 --> 00:00:51,650 What this book is, is a 30 day workbook to help you do exactly what it says. 9 00:00:51,860 --> 00:00:54,260 Make fun a habit in your artistic practice. 10 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:55,200 practice. 11 00:00:55,970 --> 00:01:01,560 So make sure that you get a copy of the book and it is in my show 12 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,690 notes for a link to that book. 13 00:01:04,269 --> 00:01:10,530 And this is really going to help us out in putting the fun back into whatever 14 00:01:10,530 --> 00:01:13,044 artistic project we're working on. 15 00:01:14,134 --> 00:01:17,949 So what I've decided to do is, since it's a 30 day workbook, I'm 16 00:01:17,949 --> 00:01:19,954 going to make 30 episodes out of it. 17 00:01:19,975 --> 00:01:22,604 And this episode marks the halfway point. 18 00:01:22,854 --> 00:01:23,525 That's right. 19 00:01:24,845 --> 00:01:29,004 Day number 15, episode number 15 in this series. 20 00:01:31,294 --> 00:01:32,944 So what are we talking about today? 21 00:01:32,944 --> 00:01:39,275 Well, we're talking about, um, having, you know, more problems and more projects 22 00:01:39,275 --> 00:01:46,829 and kind of using that negative energy in order to Fuel your artistic practice. 23 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,770 Now, for me, that can be dangerous and it can be very helpful. 24 00:01:53,009 --> 00:01:59,009 So I, I have to be very careful with this type of type of stuff because 25 00:01:59,479 --> 00:02:04,979 for me, it can get me stuck into a certain pattern and getting stuck 26 00:02:04,979 --> 00:02:07,119 in a pattern is not a fun thing. 27 00:02:08,659 --> 00:02:11,649 So what Mike Brennan does in his book is he. 28 00:02:12,060 --> 00:02:18,090 Tells a little story at the beginning and then he gives us questions Uh, he 29 00:02:18,090 --> 00:02:20,900 also gives us action items and tips. 30 00:02:21,790 --> 00:02:26,040 So we're going to start with the questions that he poses to us. 31 00:02:27,030 --> 00:02:29,550 First question is what do you hate and why? 32 00:02:30,590 --> 00:02:32,120 So there's a lot of things that I hate. 33 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:38,950 Um, but I think one of the biggest things I hate is, um, the injustice and. 34 00:02:39,395 --> 00:02:44,075 Uh, if we're talking in the world, I hate seeing injustice in the world. 35 00:02:44,135 --> 00:02:46,865 It's just, it doesn't make any sense to me. 36 00:02:46,965 --> 00:02:51,595 What do I hate in my immediate world that I can have an effect on? 37 00:02:52,454 --> 00:02:57,394 Well, sometimes I hate, uh, well, all the time I hate that I 38 00:02:57,395 --> 00:02:59,784 have MS and it zaps my strength. 39 00:03:00,559 --> 00:03:05,249 And it sometimes is difficult to, uh, get tasks done during the day. 40 00:03:05,980 --> 00:03:09,609 So that's what I hate about having MS. 41 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,489 It's just, it can be a nightmare. 42 00:03:12,769 --> 00:03:19,389 Uh, you know, especially as a father of twin 10 year olds, you know, not having 43 00:03:19,389 --> 00:03:23,649 the energy to go out and play with them all the time, uh, it really impacts me 44 00:03:23,649 --> 00:03:25,909 and really does a number on my psyche. 45 00:03:25,909 --> 00:03:28,510 So that's what I hate. 46 00:03:28,579 --> 00:03:29,559 That's why I hate it. 47 00:03:30,860 --> 00:03:33,120 What's the problem, question number two is what's the problem that 48 00:03:33,140 --> 00:03:35,260 irritates you that has gone unresolved? 49 00:03:36,870 --> 00:03:39,880 Well, I think a problem with me is that 50 00:03:43,290 --> 00:03:48,460 I guess for me, the problem that I hate that I haven't resolved is, 51 00:03:48,570 --> 00:03:54,590 you know, getting out of my own way, um, and believing that any success. 52 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,360 Uh, or any project that I do is worthy of, you know, showing to an audience. 53 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,760 And it's a lack of self confidence. 54 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,740 And I know, I'm sitting here on YouTube looking at you, 55 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,830 uh, and you're looking at me. 56 00:04:07,170 --> 00:04:09,940 And yeah, I have four books of poetry out there. 57 00:04:09,950 --> 00:04:11,700 I have art all over my walls. 58 00:04:11,700 --> 00:04:16,390 I have this podcast that's been going on since essentially since 2006. 59 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:19,079 But for me, that's not enough. 60 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,240 And, uh, you know, I want, I want things to be very successful. 61 00:04:23,639 --> 00:04:25,950 So that's something that's gone unresolved. 62 00:04:25,950 --> 00:04:28,440 It's something that I'm continually working at. 63 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,179 So that's just one of the things that, you know, really resonates with me. 64 00:04:34,395 --> 00:04:36,855 Question number three is, what are some of the challenges of using things 65 00:04:36,855 --> 00:04:38,835 you hate as a source of inspiration? 66 00:04:40,115 --> 00:04:42,625 So, for me, the challenge is, is two fold. 67 00:04:42,865 --> 00:04:50,305 One, I get stuck, I get fixated on that negative energy, that thing that I hate. 68 00:04:51,125 --> 00:04:55,404 And I keep on writing about it, or I keep on doing projects that remind me of it. 69 00:04:56,074 --> 00:05:01,569 The second thing is, if I'm using that energy, I'm just, Focusing on 70 00:05:01,609 --> 00:05:03,219 the problem, not on the solution. 71 00:05:04,389 --> 00:05:07,729 So I always have to remind myself, yeah, you can be angry about this. 72 00:05:07,729 --> 00:05:11,829 You can be mad about this, but what are you doing to get past it? 73 00:05:12,409 --> 00:05:14,769 And that's something that I'm still learning how to 74 00:05:14,799 --> 00:05:16,359 do get past certain things. 75 00:05:18,549 --> 00:05:21,449 Question number four is what are some of the benefits of using something 76 00:05:21,449 --> 00:05:23,229 you hate as a source of inspiration? 77 00:05:23,299 --> 00:05:26,269 Well, hate is a very strong emotion. 78 00:05:26,934 --> 00:05:31,934 When you hate something, you go out of your way to avoid it, to downplay 79 00:05:31,934 --> 00:05:33,934 it, to get it out of your life. 80 00:05:34,605 --> 00:05:34,845 Yeah. 81 00:05:34,845 --> 00:05:36,844 And that's why it's such a strong emotion. 82 00:05:36,844 --> 00:05:40,335 It requires, if you hate something, it requires action on you and 83 00:05:40,335 --> 00:05:42,295 it requires energy on your part. 84 00:05:42,405 --> 00:05:50,934 So, um, having that energy kind of negates the MS and, uh, it's 85 00:05:50,934 --> 00:05:52,465 a little bit of a vicious cycle. 86 00:05:52,674 --> 00:05:59,174 I, I know when I was first reading my poetry in, in public, uh, I looked at the 87 00:05:59,174 --> 00:06:04,575 audience as people I wanted to fight and I used that energy to fuel my performance. 88 00:06:06,094 --> 00:06:08,434 Uh, these days I don't really do that anymore. 89 00:06:08,434 --> 00:06:12,854 I, you know, I do talk to the audience when I'm up on the stage, uh, doing 90 00:06:12,854 --> 00:06:17,804 a poetry reading and uh, I, I do, you know, trade barbs with them, uh, 91 00:06:18,364 --> 00:06:21,224 I could say, but it's more for fun. 92 00:06:21,224 --> 00:06:23,465 It's more to kind of relax the atmosphere. 93 00:06:23,604 --> 00:06:28,675 So, um, that's how I use, uh, that energy. 94 00:06:29,290 --> 00:06:33,010 Um, do I like standing, standing in front of the audience and, 95 00:06:33,070 --> 00:06:34,290 you know, burying my soul? 96 00:06:35,909 --> 00:06:38,340 I must, because I do it week in and week out. 97 00:06:38,349 --> 00:06:41,850 So I like the energy that it produces. 98 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:49,369 I don't like the subject matter or, uh, the fact that I focus on the issue or the 99 00:06:49,369 --> 00:06:54,640 problem or the thing that I hate, uh, to the detriment of focusing on other things. 100 00:06:56,499 --> 00:06:58,379 Let's go move into action items. 101 00:06:59,625 --> 00:07:02,685 First action item is read a short story or a poem about something you hate. 102 00:07:02,805 --> 00:07:09,664 I have done that so many times, so many times, but I, I think one 103 00:07:09,664 --> 00:07:12,755 thing that I need to do is once I write about it, be done with it. 104 00:07:13,175 --> 00:07:18,875 Get it all out, and just be done with it and let leave it out there in the world 105 00:07:19,265 --> 00:07:20,794 and don't let it bother you anymore. 106 00:07:21,455 --> 00:07:24,724 That's a way to get, get rid of that, to go through those 107 00:07:24,724 --> 00:07:26,224 feelings and just get rid of it. 108 00:07:27,854 --> 00:07:31,765 Number two, design a product or service that solves a problem that you hate. 109 00:07:31,765 --> 00:07:38,784 I have to think about that one, but that does sound kind of interesting is, you 110 00:07:38,784 --> 00:07:43,614 know, something that you hate, you know, maybe you design the next robot robo 111 00:07:43,614 --> 00:07:45,714 vacuum or something along those lines. 112 00:07:46,374 --> 00:07:49,514 So, uh, that's something I'm going to have to really think about. 113 00:07:49,704 --> 00:07:55,004 Uh, you know, what do I hate so much that I could do a product or 114 00:07:55,004 --> 00:07:56,414 a service that would get rid of it? 115 00:07:57,054 --> 00:07:57,634 Who knows? 116 00:07:58,645 --> 00:08:01,914 Number three, start a blog or podcast about the things you hate. 117 00:08:03,134 --> 00:08:08,764 Oh, that would be a huge podcast because there's a big list of things that I hate. 118 00:08:08,764 --> 00:08:15,104 So, uh, I think I have enough podcasts right now, but maybe a blog would be 119 00:08:15,284 --> 00:08:20,544 something or, you know, add a blog to podcasts about things that I hate. 120 00:08:21,114 --> 00:08:23,244 Um, so maybe that would be a good. 121 00:08:23,740 --> 00:08:28,110 Uh, thing, uh, good newsletter type thing, or a, uh, blog post 122 00:08:28,140 --> 00:08:34,919 for my find a podcast about, so I, that one I can take to heart now. 123 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:35,560 Mike's tips. 124 00:08:35,560 --> 00:08:36,450 He has three of them. 125 00:08:36,580 --> 00:08:38,370 First one is look for the silver lining. 126 00:08:38,370 --> 00:08:46,400 So he's talking in this, uh, in this chapter about, you know, addressing 127 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,950 the things you hate, using that as your fuel, using it health, healthily. 128 00:08:53,535 --> 00:08:59,035 And I think also with this tip, you know, the thing that you hate 129 00:08:59,165 --> 00:09:00,585 isn't going to be there forever. 130 00:09:00,895 --> 00:09:05,525 And if you're working to get rid of it, you're at least doing something 131 00:09:06,195 --> 00:09:07,865 with that emotion, with that energy. 132 00:09:08,685 --> 00:09:12,775 So, you know, envision a time when that thing won't be around, when 133 00:09:13,005 --> 00:09:16,225 that issue will be resolved, or that thing you hate will be resolved. 134 00:09:18,115 --> 00:09:20,245 Second tip is turn your hatred into humor. 135 00:09:20,455 --> 00:09:21,275 I love that. 136 00:09:21,605 --> 00:09:26,185 I love humor and turning the thing that I hate into something humorous, 137 00:09:26,585 --> 00:09:30,835 that's an easy do and that we can start working on right away. 138 00:09:31,444 --> 00:09:37,085 You know, if we're laughing at something we hate or we may realize how ridiculous 139 00:09:37,145 --> 00:09:38,535 it is that we hate that thing. 140 00:09:39,085 --> 00:09:41,785 So try some humor and try adding some humor to it and see 141 00:09:41,785 --> 00:09:42,845 if that doesn't work for you. 142 00:09:44,329 --> 00:09:46,930 And then the third tip is use your hatred as a source of energy. 143 00:09:46,930 --> 00:09:49,090 I've done that for many, many decades. 144 00:09:49,790 --> 00:09:54,250 Uh, and it, it's a cheap way of doing it. 145 00:09:55,319 --> 00:10:00,060 Uh, but you have to remember that it can't be your only source of energy. 146 00:10:00,729 --> 00:10:02,460 So try other things. 147 00:10:02,845 --> 00:10:08,585 Uh, such as meditation, such as, you know, long walks in the park, or, uh, if your 148 00:10:08,625 --> 00:10:13,424 astrological sign allows long walks on the beach, you know, I'm a Sagittarius. 149 00:10:13,655 --> 00:10:17,885 So I'm always doing long walks on the beach, but you know, you can use that, 150 00:10:18,135 --> 00:10:21,655 uh, hatred as a, as a source of energy. 151 00:10:22,325 --> 00:10:23,815 Just don't fixate on it. 152 00:10:23,815 --> 00:10:27,975 Just don't let that overtake you and become what you're known for. 153 00:10:29,470 --> 00:10:32,060 And, uh, you know, be able to expand yourself. 154 00:10:32,630 --> 00:10:35,630 Use it for a time, but then let it go. 155 00:10:36,300 --> 00:10:37,750 Find that silver lining. 156 00:10:37,909 --> 00:10:42,499 Think about when that thing that you hate won't be around anymore and use that. 157 00:10:45,854 --> 00:10:49,895 I definitely want to thank you for joining us here on, uh, create our podcast. 158 00:10:49,905 --> 00:10:50,364 That's right. 159 00:10:50,364 --> 00:10:55,555 I said us, and that means me and our new cat socks. 160 00:10:55,885 --> 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