So, it's my very great privilege and honour to introduce Professor Dominic Rowe.
Speaker:I don't think Dominic needs a lot of introduction to this audience,
Speaker:but Dominic is the inaugural Professor of Neurology here at Macquarie University,
Speaker:and he has both clinical and research expertise in the fields of motor neuron disease,
Speaker:Parkinson's disease, and other neurodegenerative diseases.
Speaker:Today, he's going to give us an update on Parkinson's disease,
Speaker:and I'll let you take it away, Dom. Thanks, James.
Speaker:I've got 20 minutes to do Parkinson's disease, so this is going to be really quick.
Speaker:What I thought I'd do first is to just put the Parkinson's disease in a historical context.
Speaker:So in 1817, a surgeon in East London, in the Sound of Bowbells,
Speaker:a true East Ender called James Parkinson,
Speaker:described six patients, two of whom were his patients and four of whom he saw in the street.
Speaker:And he described the constellation of symptoms that he codified as paralysis agitans.
Speaker:So he called it paralysis agitans.
Speaker:The father of modern neurology, Jean Charcot, read James Parkinson's tome,
Speaker:and he coined the term Parkinson's disease.
Speaker:It was until 100 years after Parkinson first described paralysis agitans that
Speaker:a PhD student in Paris actually identified the pathologic substrate of Parkinson's
Speaker:disease, a chap called Tritiakov,
Speaker:who systematically went through the brains of patients with Parkinson's disease
Speaker:and first identified that the substantia nigra was affected by Parkinson's.
Speaker:The English and the Americans didn't believe it. It was the Swedish who made
Speaker:the next huge leaps forward in Parkinson's disease.
Speaker:And that was Arvid Carlson in the 50s and 60s, who was able to demonstrate that
Speaker:it was a deficit in the major transmitter dopamine, as well as other transmitters.
Speaker:So we falsely think of Parkinson's disease as just a dopaminergic deficit, but that's not all.
Speaker:So Arvid Carlson actually after describing it in the 50s and 60s finally won
Speaker:the Nobel Prize anyone know the year that he won the Nobel Prize for identifying dopamine deficit,
Speaker:well you know good things come to all who wait the year 2000 was,
Speaker:He got the Nobel Prize for Physiology and Medicine for identifying.
Speaker:And Oli Hornikovic, who was a very famous Austrian pathologist and neurochemist
Speaker:who described it at exactly the same time, was incredibly pissed off because
Speaker:Carlson got the Nobel Prize and he didn't.
Speaker:In 1965, George Kotsius, who was a resident working in New York City,
Speaker:introduced levodopa as therapy.
Speaker:So if it's a dopaminergic deficit, give people dopamine, they'll get better.
Speaker:Well, dopamine doesn't cross the blood-brain barrier.
Speaker:But George Kotsius worked out that if you gave a precursor of dopamine,
Speaker:leave it OPA, that that crosses the blood-brain barrier. So it wasn't Oliver Sacks.
Speaker:Wasn't him. It was George Kotsius in 1965, so the year I was born.
Speaker:It's still the best therapy, levodopa.
Speaker:So Merck Sharpen Dome introduced carbidopa, so carbidopa produces a thousand-to-one
Speaker:gradient for levodopa to get into your brain.
Speaker:And Roche produced benserazide about three years later, which is why most levodopa
Speaker:therapy is in the form of levodopa, carbidopa,
Speaker:90% and 10% because MSD got there first.
Speaker:But however, Matapar has its place and I'll come to that.
Speaker:So what are the clinical features of Parkinson's disease?
Speaker:Well, there are more than 200 clinical features of Parkinson's disease and there
Speaker:are no two patients who are the same.
Speaker:There's a very long prodrome in Parkinson's disease.
Speaker:REM sleep behavior disorder that Alice touched on. Hyposmia Constipation.
Speaker:Vivid dreams, behavioral change, depression, anxiety, all in the premotor phase
Speaker:of Parkinson's disease.
Speaker:By the time you present with tremor, slowness or stiffness, you've lost 70%
Speaker:of your brain's dopamine.
Speaker:You've had the disease for 10 to 20 years.
Speaker:Parkinson's disease is a whole-body disease. Skin changes, hair changes,
Speaker:bone changes, vitamin D changes, hepatic changes, gut changes.
Speaker:30% of people with Parkinson's disease never have tremor, ever.
Speaker:So bradykinetic rigid Parkinson's disease often is diagnosed much later.
Speaker:And there are quite a few mimics for Parkinson's disease. And it's important
Speaker:to remember that other diseases like PSP, progressive supranuclear palsy,
Speaker:which is characterized by early significant falls.
Speaker:So if your patient looks Parkinsonian and they're falling in their first year,
Speaker:then it might not be Parkinson's disease.
Speaker:Multiple system atrophy has several different forms, but the most common of
Speaker:which looks like Parkinson's disease, but it's a much worse disease.
Speaker:Normal pressure hydrocephalus, and it's important to remember that some drugs,
Speaker:notably valproate, epilim.
Speaker:So perhaps once or twice a year, I have a patient who's sent to me with a diagnosis
Speaker:of Parkinson's disease, and they've been on epilim, and you stop their epilim,
Speaker:and their Parkinson's disease goes away.
Speaker:And then there are other mimics that look like Parkinson's disease.
Speaker:In fact, yesterday, one of my patients that I saw who's now in her 80s had been
Speaker:told very confidently by the movement disorder clinic at Westmead 20 years ago,
Speaker:and then by another very learned neurologist 10 years ago that she had Parkinson's
Speaker:disease, and she doesn't.
Speaker:She's got essential tremor. So we stopped all of her Parkinson's therapy,
Speaker:put her on some beta blockers, and she can now do everything.
Speaker:Parkinson's disease has doubled in our society since I started working as a junior doctor.
Speaker:We have a very good idea of how many patients have Parkinson's disease from PBS data.
Speaker:So in 1998, there were 60,000 Australians on dopamine replacement therapy for Parkinson's disease.
Speaker:Now, that may be a little bit rubbery because sometimes people are on medicines
Speaker:and they don't have Parkinson's disease. And sometimes people have Parkinson's
Speaker:disease and they're not on therapy.
Speaker:Last year, it's 130,000 Australians. Double.
Speaker:Male to female, two to one. Two to one.
Speaker:There is no accurate incidence or prevalence study of Parkinson's disease in Australia.
Speaker:Parkinson's disease in Australia is very rarely genetic.
Speaker:So, there are genetic causes of Parkinson's disease.
Speaker:In the mid-1990s, alpha-synuclein genetic abnormalities were first identified
Speaker:with mutations, duplications, triplications, and that causes autosomal dominant
Speaker:Parkinson's disease, and it's pretty bad Parkinson's disease.
Speaker:Subsequent to that, LRRK2 was identified, and LRRK2 is much more common in some
Speaker:parts of our society, like the Ashkenazic population or the Basque population
Speaker:in northern Spain and some parts of northern Africa.
Speaker:But Parkinson's disease is an environmental disease.
Speaker:It's what we're doing to ourselves. In some jurisdictions, Parkinson's disease
Speaker:is recognized as an occupational disease.
Speaker:In Germany, if you develop Parkinson's disease and you're a farmer,
Speaker:that is a compensable condition from your occupation.
Speaker:In Australia, we have big regional variants of Parkinson's disease.
Speaker:Around Orange and the Central West, Parkinson's disease is incredibly common.
Speaker:It's more common in the wine industry, where the use of fungicides is common.
Speaker:You can go to Bunnings or any farm supply store and buy tomato dust.
Speaker:In tomato dust, there's an agent called rotanone.
Speaker:Rotanone is a mitochondrial poison that is strongly associated with Parkinson's disease.
Speaker:There are very well-known neurologists, Bas Blom, in the Netherlands,
Speaker:who advocates that his patients with Parkinson's disease get rid of all solvents,
Speaker:industrial chemicals, pesticides, insecticides, herbicides, fungicides, out of the home.
Speaker:In 1990, the Netherlands banned
Speaker:a lot of chemicals that we still use in agriculture here in Australia.
Speaker:The Netherlands is the only European country where the incidence of Parkinson's disease is decreasing.
Speaker:Why is that important? Well, cause informs mechanism. Mechanism informs therapy.
Speaker:And unfortunately, unlike the amyloid-based therapies that James and Alice have
Speaker:in the clinic, we don't have anything yet that slows Parkinson's disease.
Speaker:We were the only site of the Parkinson's Progression Marker Initiative from
Speaker:the Michael Jay Fox, which is a big 20, 30-year study looking at the factors
Speaker:that determine the progression of Parkinson's disease. It's still not sorted out.
Speaker:What do we do in the clinic? How do we assess patients? I look after Maddie and I.
Speaker:Poor old Maddie has had the misfortune of working with me for 27 years.
Speaker:She needs a medal. Thank you.
Speaker:I couldn't look after 800 people with Parkinson's disease without Maddie's expertise.
Speaker:Similarly, I have a tremendous CNC, Jing Li, who helps me with our 250 patients
Speaker:with motor neurone disease.
Speaker:So the nursing input isn't valued.
Speaker:It's not remunerated, but it's invaluable to me and to our patients.
Speaker:So all of the stuff that Maddie was talking about, the aged care and the NDIS
Speaker:stuff, she does all of that.
Speaker:And we absorb that cost in neurology, but she spends hours and hours and hours
Speaker:on this pitched battle with these government agencies.
Speaker:She sort of played it down a little bit, but it is battle.
Speaker:So what do we do in clinic?
Speaker:Well, I look after 800 people with Parkinson's disease. They still come to me
Speaker:from all around the place.
Speaker:And it's quite amazing that some patients who've been on therapy for Parkinson's
Speaker:disease for four, five, six, seven years have never had an MRI scan.
Speaker:I have a unique gift for profanity, but I'm not going to swear.
Speaker:But it is quite amazing that if you've got a disease like Parkinson's disease
Speaker:and the initial neurologist doesn't do a scan, because sometimes neurologists think,
Speaker:well, why do I need to do a scan? This is Parkinson's disease.
Speaker:I don't need to do a scan. Well, you do need to do a scan because there are
Speaker:lookalike conditions like normal pressure hydrocephalus, PSP,
Speaker:multiple system atrophy, all these sorts of things.
Speaker:So take a history, careful history, comorbidities, examine thoroughly.
Speaker:There's a very gross staging system of Parkinson's disease,
Speaker:called the Honan-Yah staging, and that's very gross.
Speaker:So stage one is one side, stage two is two sides, stage three is that you're
Speaker:starting to get impairment of balance, stage four is that you can't stand up,
Speaker:and stage five is that you can't sit up.
Speaker:So it's pretty gross.
Speaker:We assess patients, there's a concept in Parkinson's disease called the magic 30 seconds.
Speaker:So I walk out to the waiting room, I greet the patient in the waiting room,
Speaker:because Because I'm a nasty person, my clinic room is the furthest from the waiting room.
Speaker:So I get my 10,000 steps in every day.
Speaker:Greeting the patient, greeting their partner, greeting their family,
Speaker:watching them stand up, shaking their hand, putting them on the scale,
Speaker:walking down the corridor, engaging in banter.
Speaker:Watching them turn, watching them sit down. That's all assessment. And it's magic.
Speaker:We check blood pressure. We weigh patients every time they come in because in
Speaker:Parkinson's disease, you lose weight. You're in negative nitrogen balance.
Speaker:It's very uncommon to see a fat person with Parkinson's disease. It does happen.
Speaker:And some of the therapies tickle up your carbohydrate center.
Speaker:But we weigh our patients every time they come in. We take their blood pressure.
Speaker:We go through their medications very carefully.
Speaker:Because sometimes in medicine, things become siloed and patients will go to
Speaker:the cardiologist who puts them on beta blockers, which are not so great in Parkinson's
Speaker:disease because they exacerbate orthostatic hypertension,
Speaker:hypotension.
Speaker:So we go through all their medicines.
Speaker:We ask them about their vitamins, their supplements, their wool of bat and eye of newt.
Speaker:Pyridoxine toxicity is something that we often see in clinic Where people are
Speaker:taking way too much nature's own or blackmore's rubbish.
Speaker:So spending time with patients, going through their medication,
Speaker:what are they taking, what times are they taking their medicines,
Speaker:how much are they taking, having sure that the patient is there with their partner to corroborate.
Speaker:And that's also important with some of the therapies. So some of the therapies,
Speaker:particularly the dopamine agonists, can tickle up behavioral changes.
Speaker:So because these drugs talk to other parts of your brain, they can amplify behaviours
Speaker:that may be hidden, like gambling, internet gambling.
Speaker:It's a complete nightmare. Pokies, complete nightmare.
Speaker:Hypersexuality, porn, internet. So you've got to interrogate your patients and
Speaker:do it in a respectful way,
Speaker:but with your antenna out, because when these things come out,
Speaker:they can destroy families.
Speaker:So being careful about the medicines and the doses that you use and talking about adverse effects.
Speaker:Therapy. The cornerstone of therapy is levodopa.
Speaker:I use levodopa as the first agent.
Speaker:That's not necessarily the practice around Sydney or Australia.
Speaker:Often they'll start with other therapies like monoamine oxidase,
Speaker:B inhibitors or dopamine agonists.
Speaker:I use levodopa because when people are symptomatic, we need to use the cheapest,
Speaker:best, most effective therapy to reduce symptoms to the lowest level possible.
Speaker:That's what you're trying to do.
Speaker:There is longitudinal data that suggests that the better you treat patients,
Speaker:you may help to slow the progression of Parkinson's disease.
Speaker:That's a little bit controversial.
Speaker:But you need to think about weight and gender. So if you have a 45-kilo,
Speaker:70-year-old woman with Parkinson's disease, you're not going to use the same
Speaker:starting dose as you're going to use in a 130-kilo,
Speaker:50-year-old man.
Speaker:So I had a 135-kilo fellow come to me a couple of years ago who his first neurologist
Speaker:had him on Matapar 62.5, one, three times a day.
Speaker:Homeopathic, did nothing. And he said, the medicine's not working.
Speaker:And I said, well, it's not going to work.
Speaker:It's weight-based. So you've got to give an appropriate dose for the person and their gender.
Speaker:I tend to use principally only Levodopa, either Cinemet or Matapar.
Speaker:And my preference is to use controlled release Cinemet.
Speaker:Again, theoretically, the more
Speaker:fluctuating you are with your levodopa in your blood and in your brain,
Speaker:the worse you prime dyskinesia, where you see patients wriggling.
Speaker:And curiously, we still don't understand why most dyskinesia in women starts
Speaker:in their legs. You'll see them sitting there, one foot will be going.
Speaker:And in men, it's mostly cranioservical. We don't understand that gender difference yet.
Speaker:I often use very low-dose dopamine agonists, often in the form of Cifrol or Nupro, the patch.
Speaker:And then look to adjunct therapies like monoamine oxidase B inhibitors like
Speaker:Zadago, Cifinamide, or Risagiline, Azalect.
Speaker:And then we have a couple of choices with catechol-O-methyltransferase inhibitors
Speaker:with Comtan and Apicapone.
Speaker:So I look at those as adjuncts they help your body to retain dopamine we also
Speaker:need to think about other things that we might need to treat so depression anxiety is a common thing,
Speaker:in Parkinson's disease so if we need to jump in and treat that,
Speaker:But my preference, again, often is to use SSRIs rather than SNRIs,
Speaker:because, again, without,
Speaker:objective data to back it up, the SNRIs often turn up anxiety,
Speaker:whereas SSRIs don't.
Speaker:Constipation is universal. It is a movement disorder, pardon the pun.
Speaker:But we approach that very simply.
Speaker:Two minutes, I've got two minutes, goodness.
Speaker:Fluid, you've got to have enough fluid. So I ask patients, what does your poo look like?
Speaker:Is it rabbit pellets? Is it Maltesers?
Speaker:If it's rabbit pellets or Maltesers, you don't have enough water because your
Speaker:bowel slows down and it sucks fluid out of your poo.
Speaker:So we use movacol, we use some form of senna like Nulax.
Speaker:I happen to like Nulax, but it doesn't really matter.
Speaker:And so it's very simple, enough water, movacol, constipation.
Speaker:And again, you have to ask because patients won't necessarily volunteer it.
Speaker:Okay management is not just
Speaker:about pharmacotherapy so very early on we talk about only dead fish float with
Speaker:the stream so getting patients to stay engaged involved active whatever that
Speaker:is you got to ask people to do exercise according to what their preference is,
Speaker:So sending my 135-kilo truck driver to Tai Chi and,
Speaker:or Pilates, that's just not going to work. So you send him to,
Speaker:you know, knock out Parkinson's disease, the punching guys.
Speaker:So you've got to tailor exercise and you try and get patients to do at least
Speaker:30 minutes of good going exercise a day.
Speaker:There are some clinics and Maddie mentioned them.
Speaker:So there's the various clinics that espouse a very active approach to Parkinson's disease.
Speaker:And they're all really good. They're not for everyone. You've got to tailor it to the person.
Speaker:It's got to be patient-centric in the context of their family,
Speaker:so listen to what your patients are telling you.
Speaker:Make sure that I try to get patients to come with their partner because that's
Speaker:when you can really interrogate what's going on because someone's sitting next to them going, oh, yes.
Speaker:So listening to what's going on in the clinic.
Speaker:I have a few disclosures. NHMRC, MRFF, Shake It Up, and Michael J. Fox Foundation.
Speaker:I sit on the scientific advisory board for Selozia, which is a startup here at Macquarie.
Speaker:I have done some contract work for Biogen around therapy in motor neurone disease,
Speaker:and I'm a full-time employee of Macquarie University.
Speaker:Parkinson's is very common. It's more men than women, no two identical.
Speaker:And we'll circulate the slides. You don't have to photograph them.
Speaker:I'm happy for these to come to you all.
Speaker:We need to consider advanced therapies. I haven't even touched on advanced therapies,
Speaker:because that's a day in and of itself and maybe we can do that at some stage
Speaker:because hopefully next year we'll be starting up DBS here at Deep Brain Stimulation
Speaker:Surgery here at Macquarie and we already do some of the advanced therapies that
Speaker:you might have seen on Channel 9 the Fos levodopa.
Speaker:But why give something by a pump when a tablet works just as well?
Speaker:I'd like to thank you all for coming on a Saturday morning, giving up your time,
Speaker:because it really is fantastic to see faces of people that I have a correspondence
Speaker:with about patients that I've looked after. So thanks for coming.