1 00:00:09,776 --> 00:00:10,443 Welcome to 2 00:00:10,443 --> 00:00:14,047 User Friendly 2.0 with host Bill Sikkens, 3 00:00:14,180 --> 00:00:17,150 Technology architect. 4 00:00:22,022 --> 00:00:23,690 And this is User Friendly 2.0. 5 00:00:23,690 --> 00:00:24,991 I am your host Bill Sikkens. 6 00:00:24,991 --> 00:00:25,392 Gretchen. 7 00:00:25,392 --> 00:00:28,495 Bill welcome lo there. Hello. 8 00:00:29,062 --> 00:00:32,032 So got a lot coming up for you this week. 9 00:00:32,298 --> 00:00:36,936 I'm going to be getting down to do another episode of training on the jet suit. 10 00:00:36,936 --> 00:00:39,272 So we're going to talk about that a little bit coming up here. 11 00:00:39,272 --> 00:00:42,942 And Bill, you have a new business venture coming up 12 00:00:42,942 --> 00:00:45,912 that has to do with running role playing games. 13 00:00:46,980 --> 00:00:50,050 We're going to talk about that also a little bit after the news. 14 00:00:50,216 --> 00:00:51,351 So let's get to that point. 15 00:00:51,351 --> 00:00:53,353 What do we have in the news now. 16 00:00:53,353 --> 00:00:53,853 Right. 17 00:00:53,853 --> 00:00:56,856 Microsoft asks users to ignore 18 00:00:57,323 --> 00:01:00,794 anti-virus is turned off errors message. 19 00:01:01,061 --> 00:01:01,327 Yeah. 20 00:01:01,327 --> 00:01:05,298 On the topic of having credibility with your antivirus software, 21 00:01:05,498 --> 00:01:07,500 can you imagine having to put out a thing like that? 22 00:01:07,500 --> 00:01:09,969 If it says there's a problem, just ignore it. 23 00:01:09,969 --> 00:01:11,604 Well, how do you know when it's real? 24 00:01:11,604 --> 00:01:12,872 You know, kind of thing? 25 00:01:12,872 --> 00:01:15,442 So what this is, is it's an update that came out, 26 00:01:16,743 --> 00:01:17,310 on Windows 27 00:01:17,310 --> 00:01:21,181 Update, and it's causing a situation for whatever reason. 28 00:01:21,181 --> 00:01:24,250 It's giving you a message that the Windows Defender 29 00:01:24,250 --> 00:01:27,253 has been shut off, when in fact it is still running properly. 30 00:01:27,487 --> 00:01:30,290 And you can check in your task manager and stuff to make sure 31 00:01:30,290 --> 00:01:33,893 that the service is still there and is still running if you're concerned. 32 00:01:34,594 --> 00:01:37,530 But this is a situation where they're 33 00:01:37,530 --> 00:01:40,533 looking at fixing it with the next round of updates, hopefully, 34 00:01:40,733 --> 00:01:43,770 but that's something you don't really want to mess around with. 35 00:01:43,770 --> 00:01:46,206 And I tell you one thing, this is one of those times 36 00:01:46,206 --> 00:01:49,742 that the bad guys also know what happens with these kind of things 37 00:01:49,742 --> 00:01:52,846 and would make an attempt to do something, possibly. 38 00:01:52,846 --> 00:01:55,849 So you do want to be careful, but if you get that message, 39 00:01:55,849 --> 00:01:59,819 it's probably a situation unless you turned it off or something changed. 40 00:02:00,220 --> 00:02:02,021 Most likely it's still working okay. 41 00:02:02,021 --> 00:02:03,790 It's just Microsoft isn't 42 00:02:05,692 --> 00:02:07,393 talking about bad guys. 43 00:02:07,393 --> 00:02:08,962 Valves, 44 00:02:08,962 --> 00:02:11,364 massive 12 terabyte leak. 45 00:02:11,364 --> 00:02:14,033 Feeling a decade of steam game files. 46 00:02:14,033 --> 00:02:14,234 Yeah. 47 00:02:14,234 --> 00:02:17,670 So for anybody that doesn't know, valve is a system to where you can digitally 48 00:02:17,670 --> 00:02:21,441 install games, and it's been around for a long time. 49 00:02:21,474 --> 00:02:22,942 It's a lot of gamers use it. 50 00:02:22,942 --> 00:02:26,846 I use it is a great way, and they have a huge archive of things 51 00:02:26,846 --> 00:02:27,680 where a lot of Andy 52 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,551 developers can get their games to people you can get older stuff. 53 00:02:31,551 --> 00:02:35,088 I was able to install SimCity, I think it was 3000 or something 54 00:02:35,121 --> 00:02:38,525 off of that system, you know, stuff like that as well as new things. 55 00:02:38,525 --> 00:02:40,860 So there's a lot of use for this. 56 00:02:40,860 --> 00:02:42,295 It's kind of a cool service. 57 00:02:42,295 --> 00:02:43,830 It's run pretty well. 58 00:02:43,830 --> 00:02:48,768 And what they're referring to here is there are different versions of the system 59 00:02:48,768 --> 00:02:53,673 that valve uses to get the information in content to you. 60 00:02:53,673 --> 00:02:57,043 This includes not only new installs, but updates and stuff like that. 61 00:02:57,377 --> 00:03:00,813 And what this is referring to is a version of the system known as steam two, 62 00:03:00,847 --> 00:03:06,486 which was used between 2003 and 2013, and according to 63 00:03:07,620 --> 00:03:09,289 valve and a quarter 64 00:03:09,289 --> 00:03:12,892 as far as what caused this situation is it's not a hack, 65 00:03:13,459 --> 00:03:16,763 it's something got left open and publicly accessible, 66 00:03:16,963 --> 00:03:21,000 and it was found on the internet and the files were there distributed. 67 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,570 So they're saying that it was a problem on their end, 68 00:03:23,570 --> 00:03:24,938 that they did something wrong. 69 00:03:24,938 --> 00:03:26,406 It wasn't that somebody got in. 70 00:03:26,406 --> 00:03:30,643 So there isn't the risk here, at least according to them of personal information, 71 00:03:30,643 --> 00:03:34,814 your valve account or steam account being compromised in some way, or credit 72 00:03:34,814 --> 00:03:36,816 card information getting out or anything like that. 73 00:03:36,816 --> 00:03:40,553 So one of the things that is interesting about this is starting to look through 74 00:03:40,620 --> 00:03:45,191 what actually is contained in ten years worth of 12TB worth of game files. 75 00:03:45,658 --> 00:03:49,329 And a lot of information that's out there kind of sheds lights on things, 76 00:03:49,329 --> 00:03:54,334 because there's a lot of releases that never got out, things that were canceled, 77 00:03:55,301 --> 00:03:55,969 other stuff of 78 00:03:55,969 --> 00:03:59,372 that nature, betas that we never actually saw, and so on. 79 00:03:59,739 --> 00:04:03,243 So I'm sure there's going to be a lot of news coming out of this and just kind of 80 00:04:03,276 --> 00:04:05,078 what was going on for that ten year period. 81 00:04:05,078 --> 00:04:08,381 And the reason that it ended at 2013 is, again, that's when they switched systems 82 00:04:08,381 --> 00:04:11,517 to their current version, and the current version 83 00:04:11,517 --> 00:04:14,520 was not left open. 84 00:04:14,621 --> 00:04:15,555 All right. 85 00:04:15,555 --> 00:04:19,325 Earning man 2026 opens with thousands 86 00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:22,962 pouring into the Nevada desert. 87 00:04:23,162 --> 00:04:23,863 The Burning Man. 88 00:04:23,863 --> 00:04:24,764 For anybody that doesn't know 89 00:04:24,764 --> 00:04:28,368 it's an event that's held in northern Nevada, has been for a long time 90 00:04:28,735 --> 00:04:31,371 in which a lot of people go out to the desert 91 00:04:31,371 --> 00:04:33,973 and have art installation, among other things. 92 00:04:33,973 --> 00:04:37,477 They create a temporary city, and at the end of this, 93 00:04:37,477 --> 00:04:40,847 they burn the effigy of a man and then clean up and go away. 94 00:04:40,847 --> 00:04:43,116 And the idea is to make it look like nobody was there. 95 00:04:43,116 --> 00:04:45,418 Now, Bill, you're in that area, and I know at one time 96 00:04:45,418 --> 00:04:47,053 you live a little bit closer to that event. 97 00:04:47,053 --> 00:04:48,888 Can you tell us a little bit more about it? 98 00:04:50,290 --> 00:04:51,858 Well, literally a city pops 99 00:04:51,858 --> 00:04:54,927 up over a weekend and we're talking. 100 00:04:56,462 --> 00:05:00,033 Oh, 40,000 I think was one of the biggest. 101 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,569 I'm not sure it might be even bigger this year. 102 00:05:03,569 --> 00:05:06,539 They had to start cutting it off because there's just 103 00:05:06,539 --> 00:05:09,208 lack of logistical ability to get water 104 00:05:09,208 --> 00:05:12,211 and sanitation and 105 00:05:12,312 --> 00:05:14,580 law enforcement. 106 00:05:14,580 --> 00:05:17,750 And many ways this this is an event where anything goes. 107 00:05:17,750 --> 00:05:21,120 So you do have some challenges that that can create. 108 00:05:21,487 --> 00:05:25,758 And on the flip side of it, so very different from when I first 109 00:05:25,758 --> 00:05:26,993 heard about it. 110 00:05:26,993 --> 00:05:31,197 Well, Burning Man started in California on the beach, and I believe it 111 00:05:31,197 --> 00:05:35,635 had something to do with somebody getting a divorce if memory serves well. 112 00:05:36,102 --> 00:05:39,272 Yeah, I think that's probably where the origins were. 113 00:05:39,272 --> 00:05:42,809 But when I heard about it, I was at it was in college 114 00:05:43,476 --> 00:05:46,979 and it was like it was a camping trip 115 00:05:47,113 --> 00:05:50,316 and it was to do art out in the desert. 116 00:05:50,516 --> 00:05:50,883 Right. 117 00:05:50,883 --> 00:05:55,288 And, if I recall, I because I was invited to it 118 00:05:55,922 --> 00:05:59,792 and while I was in college and it wasn't something you paid to go to, 119 00:06:00,193 --> 00:06:03,196 and it was just like an art thing that you did. 120 00:06:03,196 --> 00:06:06,199 And I think they were planning to do. 121 00:06:06,232 --> 00:06:08,167 I think it's called Raku. 122 00:06:08,167 --> 00:06:13,239 It's where you build a kiln in the dirt, and then you do ceramics 123 00:06:13,239 --> 00:06:16,242 and you fire it out, you know, outside 124 00:06:16,442 --> 00:06:19,512 instead of a, a professional grade kiln. 125 00:06:19,846 --> 00:06:20,213 Right. 126 00:06:20,213 --> 00:06:25,918 And so I didn't have anybody to go with, and I didn't know any of these people 127 00:06:25,918 --> 00:06:29,655 well enough to go camping, you know, off with strangers. 128 00:06:29,655 --> 00:06:31,257 So I didn't go, but 129 00:06:32,392 --> 00:06:34,394 that would have been long time ago. 130 00:06:34,394 --> 00:06:35,928 So it's really changed. 131 00:06:35,928 --> 00:06:36,662 Things have changed. 132 00:06:36,662 --> 00:06:40,833 For one thing, that cost to get in this year, average cost was $775. 133 00:06:40,833 --> 00:06:45,171 They do have different tiers and things, but that was the if you just kind of 134 00:06:45,204 --> 00:06:47,640 bought a ticket and wanted to go out, that's what it would cost. 135 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,942 So it's not free anymore. 136 00:06:49,942 --> 00:06:53,413 And I know there's multiple schools of thought on this. 137 00:06:53,413 --> 00:06:55,448 Some people love it, some people hate it kind of thing. 138 00:06:55,448 --> 00:07:00,052 I, I don't know, I think anything that promotes art has its place, but 139 00:07:00,052 --> 00:07:03,256 I also think that there is a point where you can get a little bit over the top. 140 00:07:03,523 --> 00:07:08,528 And just my opinion, it kind of looks like Art and Road Warrior, you know, meet. 141 00:07:09,095 --> 00:07:11,597 I could see where something like that could be fun. 142 00:07:11,597 --> 00:07:12,598 As far as the event goes. 143 00:07:12,598 --> 00:07:16,369 Now, me personally, spending any time in the middle of the desert in the heat 144 00:07:16,369 --> 00:07:18,604 and the sun is not something I'd like to do. 145 00:07:18,604 --> 00:07:21,607 So when they move it to rock. 146 00:07:21,774 --> 00:07:22,442 Yeah, exactly. 147 00:07:22,442 --> 00:07:24,710 So when they move it to an air conditioned ballroom somewhere, 148 00:07:24,710 --> 00:07:26,679 maybe I'll check it out. 149 00:07:26,679 --> 00:07:30,249 I actually did fencing out in the black Rock desert. 150 00:07:30,249 --> 00:07:32,819 We did a fencing tournament out there. 151 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:35,288 For real? 152 00:07:35,288 --> 00:07:37,089 Yeah, I believe you. 153 00:07:37,089 --> 00:07:39,559 I have done work in the desert to believe me. 154 00:07:39,559 --> 00:07:41,761 I know what it is. 155 00:07:41,761 --> 00:07:43,463 No, but. 156 00:07:43,463 --> 00:07:44,063 Oh, yeah. 157 00:07:44,063 --> 00:07:46,032 No, but this was real fencing. Not. 158 00:07:46,032 --> 00:07:50,403 Not putting up fences, fencing like Olympics, you know, like swords. 159 00:07:50,536 --> 00:07:52,672 Or. You have a sword. Yes, yes, yes. 160 00:07:52,672 --> 00:07:54,874 Yeah. 161 00:07:54,874 --> 00:07:57,143 And not selling legal goods. 162 00:07:57,143 --> 00:08:00,112 Not that kind of fencing. 163 00:08:00,446 --> 00:08:03,082 Haven't you ever heard that term? Yes. 164 00:08:03,082 --> 00:08:05,651 Oh, okay. Yeah. 165 00:08:05,651 --> 00:08:08,354 Anyway, coyote versus Acme 166 00:08:08,354 --> 00:08:11,357 beat Jacob Elordi, the dog stars. 167 00:08:12,158 --> 00:08:13,926 So this is an interesting story. 168 00:08:13,926 --> 00:08:16,696 Coyote versus Acme is a movie. 169 00:08:16,696 --> 00:08:20,533 Wily coyote from the Roadrunner cartoons has 170 00:08:21,234 --> 00:08:23,536 basically gotten fed up with all of his stuff 171 00:08:23,536 --> 00:08:26,572 from Acme not working the way that it's meant to, so he sues them. 172 00:08:27,039 --> 00:08:28,674 And that's the premise of this movie. 173 00:08:28,674 --> 00:08:31,577 And from what I understand, they've done a really nice job on it. 174 00:08:31,577 --> 00:08:34,580 It was one that was being produced by Warner Brothers. 175 00:08:34,680 --> 00:08:37,884 They had pretty much made the film and then decided they didn't 176 00:08:37,884 --> 00:08:38,718 want to release it. 177 00:08:38,718 --> 00:08:41,654 The rumor is they wanted to use it as a tax write off. 178 00:08:41,654 --> 00:08:46,392 So through a long set of circumstances, another production house called 179 00:08:46,392 --> 00:08:50,763 Ketchup Entertainment got the rights to be able to release it and did, 180 00:08:50,897 --> 00:08:54,133 and it edged out just 80/80,000,000 dollars on its 181 00:08:54,133 --> 00:08:57,169 first weekend, which is not bad for a film that wasn't supposed to make money. 182 00:08:58,004 --> 00:08:59,205 Yeah, that's pretty good. 183 00:09:00,773 --> 00:09:04,377 The return of Twitter could be a happy ending. 184 00:09:04,410 --> 00:09:07,680 After the worst rebrand of all time. 185 00:09:09,015 --> 00:09:10,950 There you go for a headline, right? 186 00:09:10,950 --> 00:09:15,321 So when I first started hearing about this, it's like, okay, what is 187 00:09:15,421 --> 00:09:18,157 what is going on? Because, 188 00:09:18,157 --> 00:09:20,259 you know, there's been the situation where there was Twitter, 189 00:09:20,259 --> 00:09:23,963 little Blue Bird, you sent tweets, very popular social networking site, 190 00:09:23,963 --> 00:09:27,767 and then it was bought by X, rebranded as X, 191 00:09:27,967 --> 00:09:31,437 and ever since then has been embroiled in a lot of controversy. 192 00:09:31,737 --> 00:09:33,573 And that's a story for another time. 193 00:09:33,573 --> 00:09:36,576 But let's just say that it has certainly 194 00:09:36,576 --> 00:09:39,478 created some drama over the years. 195 00:09:39,478 --> 00:09:42,982 So another group is basically come out and said, well, you've abandoned 196 00:09:43,015 --> 00:09:45,451 the trademark. So band and trademark. 197 00:09:45,451 --> 00:09:47,053 And again, I'm not an attorney or anything, 198 00:09:47,053 --> 00:09:50,156 but from what I have read on this, they're making the claim 199 00:09:50,156 --> 00:09:53,259 and actually have gotten some support on this claim from a judge 200 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,596 that since the trademark was abandoned, it's available. 201 00:09:56,596 --> 00:10:00,733 And now they're setting up a new social networking site called 202 00:10:00,766 --> 00:10:05,071 Twitter based on what it was originally at a URL called Twitter Dot now. 203 00:10:06,138 --> 00:10:08,808 And I tried to get into this. 204 00:10:08,808 --> 00:10:11,477 It's not available for public release yet. 205 00:10:11,477 --> 00:10:15,848 You can get advanced access to it for 20 bucks or no, I think it was 40 206 00:10:15,881 --> 00:10:16,816 bucks anyway. 207 00:10:16,816 --> 00:10:19,151 You pay a small fee, you get advanced access to it. 208 00:10:19,151 --> 00:10:21,220 I might actually try it, but when I did, it wasn't working. 209 00:10:21,220 --> 00:10:22,555 It said, we're down. 210 00:10:22,555 --> 00:10:24,991 So, you know, we'll have to see what happens with that. 211 00:10:24,991 --> 00:10:27,994 But I can assure you that 212 00:10:28,694 --> 00:10:31,697 if there isn't already, there's going to be a lawsuit. 213 00:10:31,897 --> 00:10:33,699 I believe that that has already been filed. 214 00:10:33,699 --> 00:10:38,237 The idea of doing something like this, although on my personal opinion, 215 00:10:38,237 --> 00:10:40,272 I kind of hope they're successful because Twitter, 216 00:10:40,272 --> 00:10:43,976 what Twitter originally was, I did like yeah, it was fun. 217 00:10:44,043 --> 00:10:46,112 It was fun, you know? Yeah, yeah. 218 00:10:46,112 --> 00:10:49,248 And I don't know if it's possible to get that back, 219 00:10:49,248 --> 00:10:51,350 although I am led to understand that one of the people 220 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:54,353 that's driving this was one of the people that was originally involved 221 00:10:54,353 --> 00:10:56,656 with setting up Twitter back in the day. 222 00:10:56,656 --> 00:10:58,491 So, you know, it'll be interesting. 223 00:10:58,491 --> 00:11:00,092 You guys want to see Twitter come back? 224 00:11:00,092 --> 00:11:05,197 I haven't been so social lately on social networking anyway, but I don't know, be 225 00:11:05,197 --> 00:11:08,200 kind of nostalgia standpoint, I guess 226 00:11:08,534 --> 00:11:11,537 maybe from a nostalgic standpoint, but, 227 00:11:11,771 --> 00:11:14,373 I just don't do social media that much anymore. 228 00:11:14,373 --> 00:11:17,209 Yeah, neither do I. Yeah. 229 00:11:17,209 --> 00:11:18,577 I think about how much time I spent 230 00:11:18,577 --> 00:11:22,248 on things like Farmville in the day, and it's, Oh, gosh. 231 00:11:22,381 --> 00:11:23,482 Yeah. 232 00:11:23,482 --> 00:11:27,053 Oh, I just found stuff from Farmville is so weird. 233 00:11:27,353 --> 00:11:32,725 When I'm in, I'm unpacking, you see, and I found some Farmville, like, 234 00:11:33,059 --> 00:11:37,630 look like Christmas ornaments, little stuffed Farmville characters. 235 00:11:37,963 --> 00:11:40,633 I don't know where Jeremy got these. 236 00:11:40,633 --> 00:11:42,134 I don't even remember. 237 00:11:42,134 --> 00:11:44,804 I didn't come from. Yeah. 238 00:11:47,740 --> 00:11:48,174 No, I 239 00:11:48,174 --> 00:11:51,277 actually, it's just, you know, we have to admit these things. 240 00:11:51,277 --> 00:11:54,580 Eventually, I actually managed to wear the paint off the mouse 241 00:11:54,580 --> 00:11:57,583 clicker button on my laptop playing Farmville. 242 00:11:57,817 --> 00:12:00,352 Wow. Yeah. 243 00:12:00,352 --> 00:12:03,355 So I will admit to the shame of that. 244 00:12:04,924 --> 00:12:07,593 Well, talking about paint and fun 245 00:12:07,593 --> 00:12:10,896 has a coloring pages for kids and perhaps adults to 246 00:12:12,198 --> 00:12:12,932 science. 247 00:12:12,932 --> 00:12:17,169 Nasa.gov is where you go to check this out and they are, 248 00:12:17,303 --> 00:12:20,639 as the headline says, publishing or have published 249 00:12:21,006 --> 00:12:24,477 coloring book pages based on some scientific topics 250 00:12:24,477 --> 00:12:27,480 that NASA might be involved in, including Mars. 251 00:12:28,013 --> 00:12:31,016 Something called the Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope. 252 00:12:31,283 --> 00:12:34,920 And basically you go on, you get PDFs of these pages, they're free to get, 253 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,958 and you can color them and you can print them out and color them. 254 00:12:38,991 --> 00:12:41,794 Yeah, exactly. And it's not limited to kids. 255 00:12:41,794 --> 00:12:44,063 A lot of adults love doing coloring. 256 00:12:44,063 --> 00:12:45,231 I saw some of the stuff 257 00:12:45,231 --> 00:12:48,134 that they're coming up with here, which is really kind of cool. 258 00:12:48,134 --> 00:12:49,835 And there seems to be three categories. 259 00:12:49,835 --> 00:12:53,472 There's the adults that have posted stuff, there's the kids that have posted stuff, 260 00:12:53,572 --> 00:12:56,976 and then there's the ones where they've tried to have AI color them. 261 00:12:57,710 --> 00:13:01,280 I don't know why I was thinking about actually doing this for fun. 262 00:13:01,514 --> 00:13:04,283 You know, I think it would be fun to do it if actually do it. 263 00:13:04,283 --> 00:13:07,086 Yeah. Now, I'm not artistic. I could try it. 264 00:13:07,086 --> 00:13:09,488 I mean, I can paint by numbers, sort of. 265 00:13:09,488 --> 00:13:11,857 So I know maybe I could do something like this, but, 266 00:13:16,695 --> 00:13:18,998 All right, shopping malls are 267 00:13:18,998 --> 00:13:23,169 charging for prime parking, and it's not going well. 268 00:13:23,269 --> 00:13:24,403 Yeah, I wonder why. 269 00:13:24,403 --> 00:13:27,406 When I got said that, I honestly thought this was from The Onion. 270 00:13:27,606 --> 00:13:28,874 I really did. 271 00:13:28,874 --> 00:13:31,977 And here it turns out, if you say today that's reporting on it. 272 00:13:33,012 --> 00:13:36,115 So now for anybody 273 00:13:36,115 --> 00:13:39,351 that looks at malls and kind of tracks this, 274 00:13:39,418 --> 00:13:42,721 I think it would be pretty safe to say that the American Mall is a little bit 275 00:13:42,721 --> 00:13:45,724 in decline in some places more than others. 276 00:13:45,724 --> 00:13:50,529 There are a whole John on places like YouTube dedicated to urban explorers 277 00:13:50,529 --> 00:13:54,700 that go in and check out abandoned malls and end up with some creepy things 278 00:13:54,700 --> 00:13:57,970 from mold filled places, stuff that's flooded, stuff 279 00:13:57,970 --> 00:14:01,841 that's just been left to the test of time to rumor even has at places 280 00:14:01,841 --> 00:14:03,042 that aliens have invaded. 281 00:14:03,042 --> 00:14:05,644 I don't know how true that last one is, but who knows, right? 282 00:14:05,644 --> 00:14:06,078 Anything. 283 00:14:06,078 --> 00:14:06,846 It looks creepy. 284 00:14:06,846 --> 00:14:11,350 Regardless, on some of those shows it's like, oh yeah, what they see 285 00:14:11,350 --> 00:14:13,319 and what they come up with is really strange. 286 00:14:13,319 --> 00:14:14,920 And the malls have been in decline. 287 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,555 There's been a lot of reasons behind it. 288 00:14:16,555 --> 00:14:20,893 The biggest thing that's claimed on that, and it does contribute to it, is the fact 289 00:14:20,893 --> 00:14:26,098 that things like Amazon and online retail has certainly cut into the business. 290 00:14:26,098 --> 00:14:29,101 I think another part of it is, is we had way too many malls. 291 00:14:29,568 --> 00:14:32,371 It was just oversaturated in places. Yeah. 292 00:14:32,371 --> 00:14:36,141 And then some people bought the malls and just kind of made them yucky. 293 00:14:36,542 --> 00:14:39,879 They lost all that cool stuff that used to be in the mall. 294 00:14:40,045 --> 00:14:42,514 That's always one of the things that I've had to ask. 295 00:14:42,514 --> 00:14:45,851 The question is these companies come in, they take them all, 296 00:14:45,851 --> 00:14:48,954 which was a part of the reason you went there wasn't necessarily to shop. 297 00:14:48,954 --> 00:14:50,923 It was like a third space, you know, a place you would go 298 00:14:50,923 --> 00:14:52,524 that wasn't your home and wasn't work. Right. 299 00:14:52,524 --> 00:14:56,362 So yeah, would go and you would hang out, go food court and get some food, 300 00:14:56,528 --> 00:14:58,831 you know, hang out at the arcade, whatever it is that you like to do, 301 00:14:58,831 --> 00:14:59,565 meet your friends. 302 00:14:59,565 --> 00:15:02,735 And in line with that, they would have places that were nice 303 00:15:02,735 --> 00:15:06,138 to do this fountains, conversation pits, places that were safe to be. 304 00:15:06,405 --> 00:15:12,278 And then it seemed like in the 90s these companies would come in, strip 305 00:15:12,278 --> 00:15:12,811 all that out, 306 00:15:12,811 --> 00:15:17,449 painted gray or beige, and then go, no one's coming to our mall anymore. 307 00:15:18,250 --> 00:15:21,720 It's because I'm not sure it takes a degree in marketing to figure out why. 308 00:15:24,223 --> 00:15:25,391 Yeah. 309 00:15:25,391 --> 00:15:26,859 Oh, which is too bad. 310 00:15:26,859 --> 00:15:31,764 And then in line with that, with Sears, especially with Sears going under, 311 00:15:31,797 --> 00:15:35,434 I mean, yes, there's still a couple stores still open that are Sears, 312 00:15:35,768 --> 00:15:38,771 but a lot of the big mall anchors like that are gone. 313 00:15:39,071 --> 00:15:40,372 Even the smaller ones. 314 00:15:40,372 --> 00:15:42,675 Even companies like forever 21, Radio Shack, 315 00:15:42,675 --> 00:15:43,842 you know, some of these other things. 316 00:15:43,842 --> 00:15:45,311 Sam goody, there's still a Sam Goody, 317 00:15:45,311 --> 00:15:48,314 by the way, in Oregon, there is one left in a mall. 318 00:15:48,614 --> 00:15:50,382 Which one of these days I want to go check out? 319 00:15:50,382 --> 00:15:54,653 But what Birney house, you know, and some of these others. 320 00:15:54,687 --> 00:15:55,287 Yeah. 321 00:15:55,287 --> 00:16:01,193 Just gone and it's and and I know here in Oregon, there's a big mall nearby 322 00:16:01,193 --> 00:16:05,364 where we all live in Beaverton and Washington Square Mall. 323 00:16:05,364 --> 00:16:06,398 I believe it's what it's called. 324 00:16:06,398 --> 00:16:07,566 And you go there and it's clean 325 00:16:07,566 --> 00:16:09,935 and it's kept nice and everything, but it does not have the 326 00:16:11,170 --> 00:16:12,237 or really the draw. 327 00:16:12,237 --> 00:16:15,140 You go in there and yeah, it's shops and that's great and fine. 328 00:16:15,140 --> 00:16:17,810 And even a few years ago you still had things. 329 00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:18,911 There was an Amazon store. 330 00:16:18,911 --> 00:16:21,213 There was a Star Wars store in there that was really cool. 331 00:16:21,213 --> 00:16:24,049 You know, some specialty things that seems to all be gone too. 332 00:16:24,049 --> 00:16:25,250 Now. People still go there. 333 00:16:25,250 --> 00:16:27,753 This is not a dead mall by any stretch of the imagination. 334 00:16:27,753 --> 00:16:29,822 And again, the stuff that's in there is done. 335 00:16:29,822 --> 00:16:31,390 Well, it's safe as far as I know. 336 00:16:31,390 --> 00:16:34,693 And and the environments kept nice, but it's just not what it 337 00:16:34,693 --> 00:16:37,696 once was, which is a bummer. 338 00:16:37,796 --> 00:16:38,731 Yeah. 339 00:16:38,731 --> 00:16:42,534 So into rant I guess we have a news topic here, right? 340 00:16:42,534 --> 00:16:44,770 About parking. Okay, so what they're doing? 341 00:16:45,871 --> 00:16:47,039 Oh yeah. 342 00:16:47,039 --> 00:16:49,241 We completely forgot that. 343 00:16:49,241 --> 00:16:53,445 Yeah, well I was I was too busy thinking about, when I used to like mall. 344 00:16:53,445 --> 00:16:58,150 So what they're doing is coming up with this scheme, as the headline says, 345 00:16:58,150 --> 00:17:02,021 it isn't going over too well where it's still free parking for the most part. 346 00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:04,990 But if you want the good spots, you know, like near the door, 347 00:17:05,324 --> 00:17:06,925 those you have to pay for. 348 00:17:06,925 --> 00:17:10,796 So you scan a QR code and you have to actually pay money to use the spot 349 00:17:11,697 --> 00:17:13,799 at rates of like two three bucks an hour 350 00:17:13,799 --> 00:17:16,802 or more, depending on what you're at. 351 00:17:17,002 --> 00:17:19,638 And I just, I couldn't imagine 352 00:17:19,638 --> 00:17:22,875 why people don't like that sarcasm signed, by the way. 353 00:17:23,575 --> 00:17:25,911 Yeah, yeah. 354 00:17:25,911 --> 00:17:28,914 So anyway, it's it is really too bad. 355 00:17:28,914 --> 00:17:31,950 I, I am seeing also a lot of places that are attempting 356 00:17:31,950 --> 00:17:34,953 this are starting to back off on the idea 357 00:17:35,487 --> 00:17:38,724 because people really don't want to be nickel and dime death anymore. 358 00:17:38,724 --> 00:17:41,927 And the reality of the situation is, is you do have to have something 359 00:17:41,927 --> 00:17:44,296 that attracts people to go to your location, 360 00:17:44,296 --> 00:17:48,567 because you do have the choice these days of going on e-commerce site Amazon, 361 00:17:48,734 --> 00:17:49,968 you know, or others 362 00:17:49,968 --> 00:17:52,838 in ordering whatever it is you want and having to deliver to your mailbox 363 00:17:52,838 --> 00:17:56,542 versus paying for full time driving there, getting stuck in traffic, 364 00:17:56,542 --> 00:17:59,845 probably getting there and getting back, figuring out the park. 365 00:17:59,845 --> 00:18:02,848 And now you have to either park in the North 40 or you pay, 366 00:18:02,881 --> 00:18:05,117 or you could go to someplace, 367 00:18:05,117 --> 00:18:08,854 that has everything like Ikea and just wander through there. 368 00:18:08,954 --> 00:18:12,291 Yeah, you know, for a couple of hours and get food, you know? 369 00:18:12,324 --> 00:18:14,126 So, yeah, 370 00:18:14,126 --> 00:18:18,497 I, in an odd way, has the attraction a little bit of what used to be in malls. 371 00:18:18,497 --> 00:18:20,599 And like you say, there's the cafeteria 372 00:18:20,599 --> 00:18:22,234 and there's some unique things to check out. 373 00:18:22,234 --> 00:18:24,837 And I love walking through there and messing with all the stuff. 374 00:18:24,837 --> 00:18:28,540 And, you know, it's I don't know, there's just something about that that's kind of 375 00:18:28,574 --> 00:18:29,775 fun to do. 376 00:18:31,410 --> 00:18:32,711 But yeah, the 377 00:18:32,711 --> 00:18:36,882 uniqueness and stuff of, of the old mall certainly has gone the neons 378 00:18:36,882 --> 00:18:41,120 and all the things that would define that in the, of the plants. 379 00:18:41,253 --> 00:18:42,521 Yeah. Yeah. 380 00:18:42,521 --> 00:18:46,692 So but in any event, have you guys paid ever to park at a mall. 381 00:18:47,459 --> 00:18:52,131 No, no I, I yeah I think Las Vegas is figuring out this too. 382 00:18:52,131 --> 00:18:54,967 When you have to pay to park at the see knows that people don't park. 383 00:18:54,967 --> 00:18:57,603 I wouldn't pay to park at a casino either. 384 00:18:57,603 --> 00:18:59,671 It was like, what on earth are you doing? 385 00:18:59,671 --> 00:19:01,173 So anyway. 386 00:19:01,173 --> 00:19:02,574 Yeah. Interesting thing. 387 00:19:02,574 --> 00:19:03,842 So okay, end of mall rant. 388 00:19:03,842 --> 00:19:06,812 Why do we have next? 389 00:19:06,812 --> 00:19:08,280 Manchester Airports 390 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,283 Group says hackers stole travelers data. 391 00:19:11,650 --> 00:19:13,952 Yeah. So final topic that's come out here. 392 00:19:13,952 --> 00:19:17,689 This is a group that owns several airports in the UK. 393 00:19:18,457 --> 00:19:23,262 And what seems to have been stolen is basically credentials and other things 394 00:19:23,262 --> 00:19:26,231 related to the use of the Wi-Fi at these locations. 395 00:19:26,331 --> 00:19:28,100 So it isn't a lot of real personal information 396 00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:32,037 that's gotten out, but something that they've wanted to kind of get the word out 397 00:19:32,571 --> 00:19:34,273 just so you kind of know what's going on. 398 00:19:34,273 --> 00:19:35,641 And I think a lot of hacking 399 00:19:35,641 --> 00:19:38,844 that's going on in Europe right now is state sponsored by Russia. 400 00:19:39,211 --> 00:19:42,848 But because we're seeing that kind of happening all over the place, 401 00:19:43,415 --> 00:19:46,051 but it is just one of those things to be careful. 402 00:19:46,051 --> 00:19:50,155 If you're using a public network, don't share financial data, 403 00:19:50,155 --> 00:19:53,325 or even I wouldn't even go to my bank account, to be honest. 404 00:19:53,525 --> 00:19:56,562 I wouldn't do them or anything that involves putting in a password. 405 00:19:56,562 --> 00:19:59,565 The apps for the banks and stuff are safer, 406 00:19:59,731 --> 00:20:02,134 but even if it's not someone hacking 407 00:20:02,134 --> 00:20:05,337 the network, there's things that bad guys can do where they overpower 408 00:20:05,337 --> 00:20:09,575 the network and can monitor all the stuff that's going back and forth over it. 409 00:20:09,575 --> 00:20:10,943 And even an encrypted connection, 410 00:20:10,943 --> 00:20:13,912 which is better still, isn't something that I would necessarily. 411 00:20:14,379 --> 00:20:17,082 I'll wait and, you know, get on someplace secure to do that. 412 00:20:17,082 --> 00:20:18,884 Now, if you're just going on to browse and look up the 413 00:20:18,884 --> 00:20:22,087 store hours of somewhere or something like that, or check into a wait queue, 414 00:20:22,721 --> 00:20:23,622 that's fine. 415 00:20:23,622 --> 00:20:26,592 But you know, such that it is. 416 00:20:27,192 --> 00:20:31,530 So let's, let's, let's talk about Bill's new project. 417 00:20:32,497 --> 00:20:35,334 So, Bill, what are you doing? 418 00:20:35,334 --> 00:20:38,737 Well, I know I've talked about it before, and maybe I didn't 419 00:20:38,737 --> 00:20:42,441 have the best view of it back then, but I have begun 420 00:20:43,141 --> 00:20:47,045 my journey as a paid DM, a professional DM on 421 00:20:47,212 --> 00:20:50,215 start playing games. 422 00:20:50,315 --> 00:20:52,517 So. And that's a little bit about how that works. 423 00:20:52,517 --> 00:20:54,553 Now I've, you know, you've run games for us. 424 00:20:54,553 --> 00:20:57,256 So I think if anybody would know how to do this, it would be you 425 00:20:57,256 --> 00:20:59,324 because you've always done a really good job. 426 00:20:59,324 --> 00:21:00,292 But what's the difference 427 00:21:00,292 --> 00:21:03,295 between that and doing something where you're actually paid to do it? 428 00:21:04,563 --> 00:21:06,598 Well, 429 00:21:06,598 --> 00:21:08,100 not much really. 430 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:10,135 I feel like that. Really. 431 00:21:10,135 --> 00:21:12,271 What I missed when I was first talking about 432 00:21:12,271 --> 00:21:16,141 this is the understanding that paying for it, you expect me 433 00:21:16,141 --> 00:21:19,711 to be there on time as the DM, and I expect you as the players to be there. 434 00:21:20,612 --> 00:21:26,018 So it makes a consistency that may not happen in more casual games, right? 435 00:21:26,051 --> 00:21:31,056 Yeah, it's yeah, it's that professional level of you need to be on time. 436 00:21:33,925 --> 00:21:34,259 With it. 437 00:21:34,259 --> 00:21:38,597 I mean I I've bought in modules and things like that and other aides. 438 00:21:38,597 --> 00:21:44,036 So I mean it's also I know you're expected to have a lot of resources for players. 439 00:21:44,436 --> 00:21:48,607 And that's what I feel like it really brings into things. 440 00:21:49,341 --> 00:21:52,044 Well, and you seem to have a really broad base 441 00:21:52,044 --> 00:21:57,015 of understanding of the game and the law involved. 442 00:21:57,015 --> 00:22:00,018 And you also do the fun characters, 443 00:22:00,052 --> 00:22:03,422 you know, like some of your crazy character voices are fun. 444 00:22:03,555 --> 00:22:06,892 So yeah, I do try my voice acting. 445 00:22:09,061 --> 00:22:10,896 No, but it seems like a really cool idea. 446 00:22:10,896 --> 00:22:13,565 And I could see I, I knew this stuff existed, 447 00:22:13,565 --> 00:22:16,568 but until we started talking about I hadn't really thought about it much. 448 00:22:16,768 --> 00:22:18,470 But it seems like a player standpoint too. 449 00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:21,406 If you just wanted to jump on a game, you have someone that you know 450 00:22:21,406 --> 00:22:23,942 knows what they're doing, which that seems really cool. 451 00:22:25,043 --> 00:22:27,979 And there's a thing, you know, I had to get reviews. 452 00:22:27,979 --> 00:22:31,583 I check the reviews of your damn. 453 00:22:32,651 --> 00:22:35,454 When you get into a game, it oftentimes tells you 454 00:22:35,454 --> 00:22:40,359 how many seats have to be filled before it started, like my current one is. 455 00:22:40,392 --> 00:22:44,863 I want four players minimum to start the game because it is. 456 00:22:44,930 --> 00:22:49,634 I'm running a campaign from a crooked moon and 457 00:22:50,702 --> 00:22:53,472 Fact if you want to look it up, it's called A Time Under the Crooked Moon 458 00:22:53,472 --> 00:22:54,573 and you'll know it's mine. 459 00:22:54,573 --> 00:22:57,676 When you see the DM as Gotham mogul for indices. 460 00:22:57,676 --> 00:22:59,878 Bill. 461 00:22:59,878 --> 00:23:02,581 Okay. 462 00:23:02,581 --> 00:23:04,616 No, that's what's a goth mogul. 463 00:23:04,616 --> 00:23:05,951 So what's a goth mogul? 464 00:23:05,951 --> 00:23:08,954 So everybody will remember. 465 00:23:09,921 --> 00:23:10,555 Well, mogul 466 00:23:10,555 --> 00:23:13,859 is a creature from Final Fantasy, and it's been a 467 00:23:14,659 --> 00:23:17,396 one of my favorite creatures in gaming history. 468 00:23:17,396 --> 00:23:20,232 So I adopted that as my screen name, 469 00:23:21,733 --> 00:23:23,802 the goth mogul. 470 00:23:23,802 --> 00:23:24,603 Cool. That is. 471 00:23:24,603 --> 00:23:25,370 That's too cool. 472 00:23:25,370 --> 00:23:25,637 All right, 473 00:23:25,637 --> 00:23:25,937 so that's 474 00:23:25,937 --> 00:23:28,940 where somebody goes to check this out if they want to see what you're doing. 475 00:23:29,007 --> 00:23:30,609 Yep. Start playing games. 476 00:23:30,609 --> 00:23:33,979 And again, a Time Under the Crooked Moon is the name of the campaign. 477 00:23:34,045 --> 00:23:37,582 It'll be running Fridays at 5 p.m. 478 00:23:37,616 --> 00:23:38,950 Pacific time. 479 00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:42,287 And again, look me up as goth mogul 480 00:23:42,888 --> 00:23:45,857 as your dungeon Master, and you can find it that way. 481 00:23:45,857 --> 00:23:49,928 It's a levels 1 to 14 campaign from the Crooked Moon. 482 00:23:49,995 --> 00:23:52,497 And, should be fun. 483 00:23:52,497 --> 00:23:54,599 Yeah, I think that's going to be incredible. 484 00:23:54,599 --> 00:23:56,134 All right. 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We'd love to hear from you. 496 00:24:35,674 --> 00:24:39,044 All right, so we've got two things to talk about in this segment. 497 00:24:39,044 --> 00:24:42,380 And one of them is the headline of the show, which is going to be 498 00:24:42,414 --> 00:24:46,117 where we are with stereo audio equipment and that type of a thing. 499 00:24:46,117 --> 00:24:46,918 Before we get into that, 500 00:24:46,918 --> 00:24:49,921 because I didn't get into it in the first segment, I am going to get to 501 00:24:50,088 --> 00:24:53,658 jump into my third round of flight training with gravity this week. 502 00:24:53,658 --> 00:24:56,661 Now, Gretchen, you were with me on that last year. 503 00:24:56,728 --> 00:24:59,364 Yeah, and I think you enjoyed yourself. 504 00:24:59,364 --> 00:25:02,000 Oh, yeah, I wish I could go again. 505 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,536 I really feel we've got to get you in the suit one of these days, too. 506 00:25:04,536 --> 00:25:07,439 It is a lot of fun. Hopefully this time I'll be able to hover properly. 507 00:25:07,439 --> 00:25:08,206 That's my goal. 508 00:25:08,206 --> 00:25:12,911 So I did get to that point last time, just barely at the end of the day. 509 00:25:13,378 --> 00:25:16,248 So, you know, you go through these different modes of it. 510 00:25:16,248 --> 00:25:17,782 For anybody that hasn't seen a check it out. 511 00:25:17,782 --> 00:25:21,286 Gravity is the website and there's a channel on YouTube 512 00:25:21,286 --> 00:25:23,688 and some other things, but it is absolutely amazing 513 00:25:23,688 --> 00:25:25,257 and it's very hard to compare it to anything 514 00:25:25,257 --> 00:25:28,460 because you actually are flying an Iron Man style jet suit. 515 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,497 You can also see them on Instagram easily to tons of videos. 516 00:25:32,531 --> 00:25:35,600 Yeah, no, definitely around there they've held 517 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,970 now a couple of times the jet suit races. 518 00:25:39,437 --> 00:25:43,642 And that's kind of a sci fi thing just in of itself, which is kind of cool. 519 00:25:43,642 --> 00:25:45,610 Hopefully one day I'll be able to participate in that. 520 00:25:45,610 --> 00:25:47,078 We'll see. That would be a lot of fun. 521 00:25:48,613 --> 00:25:49,281 But again, 522 00:25:49,281 --> 00:25:53,618 I'm going to go ahead and check this out and see where we're at. 523 00:25:53,618 --> 00:25:56,121 And it'll be fun to talk about this again, because it's been a while. 524 00:25:56,121 --> 00:25:57,656 It's been over a year since I've been in the suits, 525 00:25:57,656 --> 00:26:00,859 so I'm starting to have or have started a long time ago 526 00:26:00,859 --> 00:26:03,862 having withdrawal from it. 527 00:26:04,729 --> 00:26:05,530 So anyway. 528 00:26:05,530 --> 00:26:09,734 On that note, let's go ahead and jump into audio file stuff 529 00:26:09,734 --> 00:26:11,803 because we've been having some fun with this. 530 00:26:11,803 --> 00:26:15,607 This is unofficially been something we've covered every year, and 531 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,411 we tend to get a lot of great input from everybody listening 532 00:26:19,444 --> 00:26:22,614 to this, and it's a lot of fun to check it out and see where it's at. 533 00:26:22,614 --> 00:26:26,751 And being that next year is going to mark 150 years 534 00:26:26,751 --> 00:26:29,754 since the first recording was ever made. 535 00:26:29,955 --> 00:26:30,822 Really? 536 00:26:30,822 --> 00:26:31,222 Yeah. 537 00:26:31,222 --> 00:26:34,359 When you think about 1877 is when Thomas Edison made 538 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,763 the first mechanical recording on the cylinder and, you know, 539 00:26:38,797 --> 00:26:43,101 going from there, it is interesting to see how much this has changed. 540 00:26:43,969 --> 00:26:47,272 So there's been different generations of this. 541 00:26:47,272 --> 00:26:50,809 And right now I think what we would look at is from 542 00:26:51,810 --> 00:26:55,647 a description, the best way to look at it is that what audio engineers do today 543 00:26:55,647 --> 00:26:59,284 is they're trying to recreate a place, like actually being in an auditorium, 544 00:26:59,284 --> 00:27:01,920 if that was the place you were trying to recreate, 545 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,956 which is a little different from where this began. 546 00:27:05,023 --> 00:27:07,192 So looking back on this a little bit, just to kind of look 547 00:27:07,192 --> 00:27:11,596 at the history of these things again, 1877 is when the first recorded sound 548 00:27:11,596 --> 00:27:15,166 was ever made, and at that time you didn't have things like microphones, 549 00:27:15,166 --> 00:27:18,169 amplifiers, certainly digital processing. 550 00:27:18,303 --> 00:27:22,641 And they use sound to physically move a stylus, 551 00:27:22,641 --> 00:27:25,677 which created a representation of those vibrations on a cylinder. 552 00:27:25,677 --> 00:27:28,680 And then playback was just simply the reverse of that. 553 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,483 And it was for the first time that humans could store sound. 554 00:27:31,483 --> 00:27:33,418 So it's kind of cool to think about that, you know. 555 00:27:34,853 --> 00:27:35,687 Build out from there. 556 00:27:35,687 --> 00:27:37,656 Next advance was made in 1920. 557 00:27:37,656 --> 00:27:40,358 And that's when they started using electricity to do recordings. 558 00:27:40,358 --> 00:27:44,262 And in that time you started having your microphones, amplifiers. 559 00:27:44,262 --> 00:27:48,166 In those days vacuum tube based loudspeakers and so on. 560 00:27:48,199 --> 00:27:51,336 That would make it sound a lot more realistic. 561 00:27:51,336 --> 00:27:55,006 So the original sound definitely had a very, I don't know, tinny aspect. 562 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,341 How would you describe that? 563 00:27:56,341 --> 00:27:59,110 It was a recording, but it wasn't. 564 00:27:59,110 --> 00:28:00,578 Yeah. Hollow. Hollow my. 565 00:28:00,578 --> 00:28:02,881 Yeah, yeah. 566 00:28:02,881 --> 00:28:04,082 Good thing from that. 567 00:28:04,082 --> 00:28:09,254 And then from that you got to the age of magnetic tape and that changed everything 568 00:28:09,254 --> 00:28:14,059 because your recordings can now be edited, copied, manipulated and so on. 569 00:28:14,459 --> 00:28:17,962 And then you stepped into where you're starting to get modern area 570 00:28:17,962 --> 00:28:19,531 instead of recording just one track. 571 00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:21,232 Why not several? 572 00:28:21,232 --> 00:28:22,600 Well, multi-track recording. 573 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,603 So even like with user friendly, each one of us 574 00:28:25,603 --> 00:28:29,441 and when we have guests on each guess has their own separate audio track. 575 00:28:30,008 --> 00:28:31,843 And this is a little different than stereo. 576 00:28:31,843 --> 00:28:35,880 It's the idea that each person you can mute out everybody else. 577 00:28:36,281 --> 00:28:38,450 And from a standpoint of recording a show 578 00:28:38,450 --> 00:28:40,251 like this, it helps if you have background noise 579 00:28:40,251 --> 00:28:41,753 on somebody's channel and they're not talking. 580 00:28:41,753 --> 00:28:44,122 It's easier to clean it up, stuff like that. 581 00:28:44,122 --> 00:28:47,559 But it is definitely a direction that was a big change. 582 00:28:47,926 --> 00:28:49,728 Or they would go into that and where this would have 583 00:28:49,728 --> 00:28:52,363 originally been used was that you would have had one track. 584 00:28:52,363 --> 00:28:55,600 Let's say you're recording a musical performance, one 585 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,603 track would be the drums, one track would be the guitarist, 586 00:28:58,636 --> 00:29:01,005 one track would be the vocalist. That kind of a thing, you know? 587 00:29:01,005 --> 00:29:03,374 And then you can later go in and adjust these things. 588 00:29:04,375 --> 00:29:06,611 Then you step into when we 589 00:29:06,611 --> 00:29:10,882 look at multi-track, the idea of stereo and of course this is nothing new. 590 00:29:10,915 --> 00:29:13,351 This goes back to last century. 591 00:29:13,351 --> 00:29:16,621 What? It's the idea that you had a location. 592 00:29:16,621 --> 00:29:18,757 So you have a left and right channel. 593 00:29:18,757 --> 00:29:22,460 And in a lot of cases, if the mixing was done properly, 594 00:29:22,460 --> 00:29:23,995 your brain would create a central channel. 595 00:29:23,995 --> 00:29:27,398 So you'd have music coming from front of you, which was mixed in that way. 596 00:29:27,632 --> 00:29:28,099 And then you 597 00:29:28,099 --> 00:29:31,636 had to the left and the right, and they actually called that a phantom center, 598 00:29:31,970 --> 00:29:36,241 something that actually worked quite well if the stereo was produced properly. 599 00:29:36,875 --> 00:29:37,842 So that was a thing. 600 00:29:37,842 --> 00:29:39,043 But we're still in a lot. 601 00:29:39,043 --> 00:29:42,046 Right, still recording in that format. 602 00:29:42,046 --> 00:29:46,417 Well, of course, like with everything else in late 70s early 80s, 603 00:29:46,551 --> 00:29:50,522 we start seeing digital compact disc arrived commercially in 1982, 604 00:29:50,555 --> 00:29:54,125 which was the first way to distribute sound in a completely digital format 605 00:29:54,692 --> 00:29:57,462 and be able to recreate things in a way 606 00:29:57,462 --> 00:30:01,299 that sounded supposedly exactly like the original. 607 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,935 And there's, I'm sure, a lot of debate. 608 00:30:03,935 --> 00:30:05,837 I can already hear the keyboards clicking well with, 609 00:30:05,837 --> 00:30:07,539 you know, the records actually real sound. 610 00:30:07,539 --> 00:30:10,775 And we'll talk about that in a minute because there is some truth to that. 611 00:30:11,176 --> 00:30:16,314 But like with anything else, when CDs first came out and still to this day, 612 00:30:16,314 --> 00:30:20,084 of course, with them is it isn't just about having a format 613 00:30:20,084 --> 00:30:23,721 that can authentically recreate sound properly. 614 00:30:24,088 --> 00:30:29,294 You now have a situation where the way that the audio file was mastered matters. 615 00:30:29,294 --> 00:30:32,564 The equipment you use, the room you're in, the you know, the way it's done, 616 00:30:33,298 --> 00:30:36,301 and you could very easily have a great system 617 00:30:36,301 --> 00:30:39,571 to distribute the audio and have a terrible recording, 618 00:30:40,405 --> 00:30:45,610 because now you could hear the problems better should they exist. 619 00:30:45,643 --> 00:30:47,212 Right? Okay. 620 00:30:48,179 --> 00:30:49,180 So will you think about 621 00:30:49,180 --> 00:30:52,150 it with vinyl records, which was before CDs, 622 00:30:52,217 --> 00:30:55,820 the most common way of buying an album or something like that, 623 00:30:55,887 --> 00:30:58,456 there was Surface Noise and all the rest of that kind of stuff, 624 00:30:58,456 --> 00:31:01,459 so that was just considered part of the listening experience. 625 00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:05,263 But if you had a bad underlying recording, sometimes that was hidden a little bit 626 00:31:05,263 --> 00:31:08,233 because you weren't expecting it to be perfect. 627 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:09,334 Okay. 628 00:31:09,334 --> 00:31:12,537 You know, there wasn't the crystal clear, crystal clear bit. 629 00:31:12,570 --> 00:31:16,641 So anyway, so that's kind of, you know, just a real quick 630 00:31:16,641 --> 00:31:18,543 review of the history of all this kind of stuff. 631 00:31:18,543 --> 00:31:22,380 And then we get into today and a lot of this that I'm going to be 632 00:31:22,380 --> 00:31:24,249 covering is based on questions that you've sent in. 633 00:31:24,249 --> 00:31:26,217 So if I'm jumping around a little bit, that's why. 634 00:31:26,217 --> 00:31:29,821 But one of the things that we get asked is the whole idea with modern audio, 635 00:31:30,622 --> 00:31:33,958 what is lossy, lossless and what's good and what's not, 636 00:31:34,325 --> 00:31:38,096 what's high resolution and that type of a thing. 637 00:31:38,096 --> 00:31:42,634 So if you have a digital recording that is complete 638 00:31:43,034 --> 00:31:47,272 and has every bit of information there that is lossless. 639 00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:49,974 So in other words, it's all there. 640 00:31:49,974 --> 00:31:53,444 But this takes up a lot of space, a tremendous amount of space. 641 00:31:54,178 --> 00:31:59,083 So in line with that, there has been a lot of work done, some better than others. 642 00:31:59,083 --> 00:32:03,688 I'm being able to compress the digital signal, but in order to do 643 00:32:03,688 --> 00:32:06,691 that, you have to take something away by the nature of what it is. 644 00:32:07,392 --> 00:32:11,362 So the advantage to this is you reduce the file size. 645 00:32:11,362 --> 00:32:13,331 The disadvantage is if you don't do it right, 646 00:32:13,331 --> 00:32:16,334 you can really tell that you've reduced the file size. 647 00:32:16,501 --> 00:32:20,371 Most common method of compression that's used as MP 648 00:32:21,339 --> 00:32:22,640 of course MP3 players. 649 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,578 That's where that comes from is that is a format of compressing audio. 650 00:32:28,012 --> 00:32:29,280 And there's other things out there. 651 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,283 One you may have heard of as Flac, 652 00:32:32,550 --> 00:32:34,285 which is one that's used, 653 00:32:34,285 --> 00:32:37,288 and there's a whole list of these things, 654 00:32:37,322 --> 00:32:40,058 but it is definitely 655 00:32:40,058 --> 00:32:43,995 one of those situations where you're going to have a lot of different opinions. 656 00:32:43,995 --> 00:32:46,998 Some are good and some are very obviously bad, 657 00:32:47,031 --> 00:32:48,333 and some of them, 658 00:32:48,333 --> 00:32:49,934 I don't think you could hold a razor next 659 00:32:49,934 --> 00:32:52,170 to the another one and really know the difference, but 660 00:32:52,170 --> 00:32:56,207 those are out there that seem to be able to hear that I'm not one of them. 661 00:32:56,607 --> 00:32:59,510 So, you know, and it all kind 662 00:32:59,510 --> 00:33:02,513 of comes down to what you prefer. 663 00:33:02,580 --> 00:33:05,249 Now, the other thing of it too, is, is when you have a compression 664 00:33:05,249 --> 00:33:08,820 format, again, using MP3 as an example, it's also possible to change 665 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,488 what's called the bitrate. 666 00:33:10,488 --> 00:33:13,358 And that can drastically also reduce the quality of what you're hearing. 667 00:33:13,358 --> 00:33:14,926 So if you've ever heard it, where it's sound, 668 00:33:14,926 --> 00:33:18,262 where it's like really tinny, that's a little bit right usually. 669 00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:22,300 So in any event, 670 00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:25,770 that type of technology is used to be able to fit things in 671 00:33:25,770 --> 00:33:28,973 something like an MP3 player now streaming over your phone, 672 00:33:28,973 --> 00:33:33,044 but it's still all the same basis in technology that goes from there. 673 00:33:33,478 --> 00:33:36,848 And as we move forward with those type of things, where we are 674 00:33:36,848 --> 00:33:37,648 now, where a lot of us 675 00:33:37,648 --> 00:33:40,651 listen to our music over Bluetooth speakers and that type of thing, 676 00:33:40,752 --> 00:33:43,755 and that's basically what's powering all of that. 677 00:33:44,355 --> 00:33:47,358 All right, guys, have a mortgage to death yet. Or 678 00:33:48,593 --> 00:33:50,695 I mean, I do this on, you know, weekly. 679 00:33:50,695 --> 00:33:53,698 So there you are right. Yeah. Exactly. 680 00:33:53,765 --> 00:33:54,766 Yeah. 681 00:33:54,766 --> 00:33:57,769 He's a sound editor. So yeah. Yeah. 682 00:33:57,769 --> 00:34:01,339 No, you would be the professional among us on knowing how all that works, right? 683 00:34:01,539 --> 00:34:03,441 You somehow get me to sound good. 684 00:34:03,441 --> 00:34:07,278 So I think you're maybe more of a magician than an electronics, but, 685 00:34:07,278 --> 00:34:10,581 hey, you know, so he's using his DM skills. 686 00:34:10,615 --> 00:34:13,251 Yeah. There you go. There you go. 687 00:34:13,251 --> 00:34:17,622 Just don't process me through AI, and we'll still be able to work together. 688 00:34:20,758 --> 00:34:22,160 So another question that 689 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,930 we get asked a lot on this subject is the whole idea of surround sound. 690 00:34:25,930 --> 00:34:27,098 So we've talked about stereo. 691 00:34:27,098 --> 00:34:30,234 You have a left and right channel and kind of a footnote to that, 692 00:34:30,234 --> 00:34:32,970 and it really is from history is something called quadraphonic 693 00:34:32,970 --> 00:34:35,673 that was out for a little while where you had four channels, 694 00:34:35,673 --> 00:34:38,676 so you'd have a left and right front and a left and right back. 695 00:34:38,743 --> 00:34:42,380 It never really took off because the formats to be able to encode 696 00:34:42,380 --> 00:34:44,215 that were never standardized. 697 00:34:44,215 --> 00:34:47,118 So you could have one kind of a quadraphonic stereo. 698 00:34:47,118 --> 00:34:50,421 And if you bought a record that was meant for a different kind of wouldn't work. 699 00:34:50,755 --> 00:34:55,393 And there never was really a common format, you know, between all of that. 700 00:34:55,526 --> 00:34:57,528 So what's Dolby? 701 00:34:57,528 --> 00:35:00,798 Well, we're going to dive into that here because that is a form of digital 702 00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:02,633 sound sound. 703 00:35:02,633 --> 00:35:05,870 And that's kind of our next topic here is to go through 704 00:35:05,937 --> 00:35:08,940 what all of those different are because Dolby is one of many for one thing. 705 00:35:09,407 --> 00:35:09,974 Okay. 706 00:35:09,974 --> 00:35:14,612 So I think one of the things to kind of preface that in a way, to make it 707 00:35:14,612 --> 00:35:18,216 a little bit more understandable is the whole idea of home theater. 708 00:35:18,850 --> 00:35:22,720 So if you go right now to a big box store, 709 00:35:22,854 --> 00:35:27,658 look online and want to buy a amplifier, it's most likely going to say 710 00:35:27,658 --> 00:35:33,831 something where it has numbers after it, like 5.1, 7.1, 7.2 okay. 711 00:35:35,333 --> 00:35:37,435 And these type of things are ratings of what it is. 712 00:35:37,435 --> 00:35:39,637 And that what that has to do with surround sound. 713 00:35:39,637 --> 00:35:41,038 So most common are 2.0. 714 00:35:41,038 --> 00:35:42,607 That's stereo right. 715 00:35:42,607 --> 00:35:45,076 Two two speakers 2.1. 716 00:35:45,076 --> 00:35:48,846 The number after the decimal point is your subwoofer or low frequency 717 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,283 bass channels which is usually a subwoofer. 718 00:35:52,683 --> 00:35:56,487 So 2.1 would mean stereo with a subwoofer 5.1, which was one of the 719 00:35:56,487 --> 00:36:00,958 most common ones in the early 2000, meant that you had five channels. 720 00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:04,061 So a center channel, front, left and right, rear left 721 00:36:04,061 --> 00:36:05,997 and right, and a subwoofer. 722 00:36:05,997 --> 00:36:09,534 Then you had 7.1, which is seven speakers 723 00:36:09,534 --> 00:36:13,604 with one subwoofer, and then real modern stuff, 7.1.4. 724 00:36:13,638 --> 00:36:14,639 They've got four. 725 00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:18,176 The third number has to do with height speakers or overhead 726 00:36:18,276 --> 00:36:22,613 so that you can get sound from up down as well as from just around you. 727 00:36:23,047 --> 00:36:26,050 So that's what all those numbers mean. 728 00:36:26,117 --> 00:36:30,888 So if you had like 7.2, that would essentially mean you had two subwoofers. 729 00:36:31,289 --> 00:36:32,423 And that's all that is. 730 00:36:33,791 --> 00:36:36,794 So Gretchen, you're asking about 731 00:36:36,861 --> 00:36:39,564 technologies and encoding like Dolby. 732 00:36:39,564 --> 00:36:42,133 So let's talk about one of the most current versions of that, 733 00:36:42,133 --> 00:36:44,168 which is Dolby Atmos. Okay. 734 00:36:44,168 --> 00:36:47,438 And I know you guys have heard me mention this because I do like my Dolby Atmos. 735 00:36:47,471 --> 00:36:48,739 Right. 736 00:36:48,739 --> 00:36:52,910 And this is a format of surround sound that came out in 2012. 737 00:36:52,977 --> 00:36:53,411 Initially. 738 00:36:53,411 --> 00:36:56,414 It's gone through a few generations since then. 739 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,051 And what we were just talking about was the number of channels 740 00:37:00,451 --> 00:37:01,219 that you would have. 741 00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:03,054 So 5.1 was five speakers. 742 00:37:03,054 --> 00:37:05,723 So that's five different channels, right? 743 00:37:05,723 --> 00:37:09,493 And as technologies have progressed, Atmos and some of these other ones 744 00:37:09,493 --> 00:37:12,096 that have come out, Dolby being the company that created it. 745 00:37:12,096 --> 00:37:15,299 So the answer Gretchen at 10,000ft 746 00:37:15,299 --> 00:37:20,238 view to your question is Dolby is a company that creates surround 747 00:37:20,238 --> 00:37:23,841 sound codecs or technologies to distribute surround sound. 748 00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:27,245 And then there's different types of Dolby of which Atmos is one. 749 00:37:27,812 --> 00:37:29,247 Okay, okay. 750 00:37:29,247 --> 00:37:31,249 Hopefully that makes sense. 751 00:37:31,249 --> 00:37:33,651 So what they've done with this is they've started mapping sound. 752 00:37:33,651 --> 00:37:36,320 And that's the biggest difference that Atmos brought to the table here. 753 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,791 So instead of being channel based you have an engineer with channels 754 00:37:40,791 --> 00:37:44,362 saying this sound goes to the left speaker or that that one to the right and so on. 755 00:37:44,729 --> 00:37:46,697 Atmos treats the sound as an object. 756 00:37:46,697 --> 00:37:48,566 So let's say it's a helicopter. 757 00:37:48,566 --> 00:37:53,004 So instead of encoding where it should be on a speaker, it is encoded as to 758 00:37:53,037 --> 00:37:57,775 where it you should hear it in the room that you're sitting in okay okay, okay. 759 00:37:57,808 --> 00:37:59,677 That that that changes. Yeah. 760 00:37:59,677 --> 00:38:00,845 That makes it different. 761 00:38:00,845 --> 00:38:03,314 So is this what they use in the movie theaters? 762 00:38:03,314 --> 00:38:05,216 Oh yeah. Big time. 763 00:38:05,216 --> 00:38:05,783 Big time. 764 00:38:05,783 --> 00:38:09,687 And with these systems being set up right now, that was another big thing too, 765 00:38:09,687 --> 00:38:11,889 because it used to be we're going to get into T.H. 766 00:38:11,889 --> 00:38:14,892 and George Lucas's answer to this, which was one of the very first 767 00:38:14,892 --> 00:38:17,695 hearing that that THX thing in my head. 768 00:38:17,695 --> 00:38:20,164 And I'm like, what was that talk about? 769 00:38:20,164 --> 00:38:21,599 And we'll talk about that in a minute. 770 00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:25,436 But basically what you had going on there is exactly what you're talking about. 771 00:38:25,436 --> 00:38:28,839 So you had something that was engineered for a movie theater with channels. 772 00:38:28,939 --> 00:38:30,241 It would work great, 773 00:38:30,241 --> 00:38:33,110 but if the home theater system had the speakers in a different spot 774 00:38:33,110 --> 00:38:35,513 in the room or something, it wouldn't sound right because of that. 775 00:38:35,513 --> 00:38:35,913 Yeah, 776 00:38:35,913 --> 00:38:38,449 but if you haven't, where it can say, well, 777 00:38:38,449 --> 00:38:40,084 the helicopter is supposed to go over your head 778 00:38:40,084 --> 00:38:40,551 and whatever 779 00:38:40,551 --> 00:38:43,554 your speaker format is, that's where it's going to appear to come from. 780 00:38:43,688 --> 00:38:46,390 That's what something like Atmos does. Okay. 781 00:38:47,925 --> 00:38:50,294 So it's a completely different way of encoding 782 00:38:50,294 --> 00:38:54,298 and that type of a thing, but it is one that made a huge change. 783 00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:56,100 And what basically you're doing with 784 00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:58,135 that is you're creating something called a sound field. 785 00:38:58,135 --> 00:38:59,670 Okay. 786 00:38:59,670 --> 00:39:01,439 So there's competitors of that. 787 00:39:01,439 --> 00:39:05,142 Another one that you may have seen the letters for is DTS or DTS X. 788 00:39:05,976 --> 00:39:08,179 And if you haven't it's out there. 789 00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:12,616 And it's basically a enhanced sound system that uses a similar 790 00:39:12,650 --> 00:39:16,354 object based philosophy, just using a different method of doing it. 791 00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:18,055 So think back to quadraphonic. 792 00:39:18,055 --> 00:39:20,524 Now we have two competing technologies, right? 793 00:39:20,524 --> 00:39:24,161 The difference being with a digital amplifier you can support more than one. 794 00:39:24,161 --> 00:39:29,500 So it makes it not a problem like it used to be with that type of a thing. But 795 00:39:30,701 --> 00:39:33,037 there I you know, really as far as immersive 796 00:39:33,037 --> 00:39:36,040 audio goes, I think both of them do about the same thing. 797 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,442 DTS if you've ever been to an Imax movie, 798 00:39:38,442 --> 00:39:41,445 that's the system it uses there. 799 00:39:41,445 --> 00:39:43,647 For being able to do this, although I have seen Atmos 800 00:39:43,647 --> 00:39:47,752 with Emax as well, but primarily DTS is used in that kind of environment. 801 00:39:48,652 --> 00:39:51,722 And Gretchen so you were asking about George Lucas and. 802 00:39:52,289 --> 00:39:53,257 Right. 803 00:39:53,257 --> 00:39:53,924 Yeah. 804 00:39:53,924 --> 00:39:56,894 Well, believe it or not, 805 00:39:56,894 --> 00:39:59,997 t h is something more than 15 seconds you see, in 806 00:39:59,997 --> 00:40:03,000 front of a movie that's really loud with a really strange tone. 807 00:40:03,567 --> 00:40:07,304 And it sounded kind of cool and impressive, but okay, cool and impressive. 808 00:40:07,538 --> 00:40:09,206 There's actually people that that terrifies. 809 00:40:09,206 --> 00:40:12,176 There is actually a phobia of the sound. 810 00:40:12,176 --> 00:40:12,643 Really. 811 00:40:12,643 --> 00:40:14,845 It really is a thing. Yeah, I didn't know that, you 812 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:16,881 know, but 813 00:40:16,881 --> 00:40:20,418 this was a little different approach when Lucasfilm came up with this, 814 00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:24,288 what they were aiming to do was actually creating a set of standards, not a format. 815 00:40:24,555 --> 00:40:26,323 So t h is actually not a format. 816 00:40:26,323 --> 00:40:28,926 It's standards that formats are based on. 817 00:40:28,926 --> 00:40:29,160 Okay. 818 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,397 And George Lucas and creating Star Wars and his other films as well. 819 00:40:33,397 --> 00:40:35,966 But primarily Star Wars had a situation. 820 00:40:35,966 --> 00:40:38,769 In order to experience a Star Wars film properly, 821 00:40:38,769 --> 00:40:41,605 it had to be able to be reproduced in the way that he wanted it to be, 822 00:40:41,605 --> 00:40:44,542 which means sound in the right place, video in the right place. 823 00:40:44,542 --> 00:40:48,479 And at that time, late 70s movie theaters really didn't do that 824 00:40:48,479 --> 00:40:50,881 because there wasn't really a way to do it, to set it up 825 00:40:50,881 --> 00:40:53,751 and this is going to work or that isn't going to work. 826 00:40:53,751 --> 00:40:54,084 Right. 827 00:40:54,084 --> 00:40:57,955 So what he did is he created standards, 828 00:40:58,489 --> 00:41:01,926 and the standards were designed that if you met these standards, 829 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,897 you would end up with the sound being the way that it's supposed to, 830 00:41:06,931 --> 00:41:09,733 but it would still if you had speakers in the wrong spot or something like that, 831 00:41:09,733 --> 00:41:11,735 it wouldn't sound quite right. 832 00:41:11,735 --> 00:41:16,207 They also have a thing called spatial audio, which is a technology 833 00:41:16,207 --> 00:41:19,610 belonging to t h that does take beyond just the certification. 834 00:41:20,277 --> 00:41:23,314 So one of the things that's interesting to you, 835 00:41:23,380 --> 00:41:25,716 and Lucas tends to be on top of the technology 836 00:41:25,716 --> 00:41:27,952 when it comes to this stuff, which is really kind of cool. 837 00:41:27,952 --> 00:41:32,156 And I did not know this existed, but one of the things with spatial audio 838 00:41:32,156 --> 00:41:33,057 and with H. 839 00:41:33,057 --> 00:41:35,326 And I just got a new amplifier, so I'm gonna have to try this out 840 00:41:35,326 --> 00:41:38,329 as the headphones track your head movement. 841 00:41:38,462 --> 00:41:40,965 So when you move your head, it moves the sound 842 00:41:40,965 --> 00:41:43,100 based on where you're looking in the room. 843 00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:45,369 Really? Yeah. Oh. 844 00:41:45,369 --> 00:41:49,273 Oh. And I would have a lot of questions about that working properly. 845 00:41:49,273 --> 00:41:53,010 But I also know that stuff that comes from Lucasfilm, it'll work properly. 846 00:41:53,010 --> 00:41:55,145 He wouldn't have released it if it didn't. Yeah. 847 00:41:55,145 --> 00:41:57,681 So you know, what is it? 848 00:41:57,681 --> 00:42:03,053 It's Skywalker sound you see often at the end of of movies, 849 00:42:03,087 --> 00:42:06,657 you know that Skywalker Sound worked on the project, right? 850 00:42:06,957 --> 00:42:07,558 Yeah. 851 00:42:07,558 --> 00:42:09,159 And that means it's going to have good sound. 852 00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:13,297 And these technologies, by the way, are being incorporated, are not being 853 00:42:13,297 --> 00:42:16,400 have been for a while and a lot more than just simply 854 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,404 movies, video games that use Atmos and, and other formats, 855 00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:25,276 spatial in this sense and other formats correctly. 856 00:42:25,276 --> 00:42:27,478 It really adds to the game experience. 857 00:42:27,478 --> 00:42:29,947 I mean, you know, you are immersed, right? 858 00:42:29,947 --> 00:42:33,250 So it makes a huge, huge difference. 859 00:42:33,551 --> 00:42:36,320 And some of the other things that go along with this are quite interesting. 860 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,821 Like I said, I just bought a new amplifier. 861 00:42:37,821 --> 00:42:40,958 My old upmost amp, which was a previous generation, died. 862 00:42:41,158 --> 00:42:43,127 Oh, about two months ago. 863 00:42:43,127 --> 00:42:46,330 And then I started looking into buying a replacement. 864 00:42:46,330 --> 00:42:48,399 And then I found out how much they cost, 865 00:42:48,399 --> 00:42:51,602 had an appointment with my cardiologist, and after recovering from that. 866 00:42:52,336 --> 00:42:55,172 Managed to, stuff's not cheap. 867 00:42:55,172 --> 00:42:58,242 Although one thing I have noticed that most certified stuff. 868 00:42:58,576 --> 00:43:01,579 You can get some audio equipment that's not 869 00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:04,615 totally wallet breaking, and it still sounds pretty good. 870 00:43:04,615 --> 00:43:06,817 So that that actually is a thing. 871 00:43:06,817 --> 00:43:08,419 But this is my primary home theater. 872 00:43:08,419 --> 00:43:11,755 I love working with this stuff, so I did end up getting a good quality 873 00:43:12,122 --> 00:43:16,093 amplifier that does Atmos, does the standards, does 874 00:43:16,694 --> 00:43:19,330 you know, all these other formats and doesn't quite well. 875 00:43:19,330 --> 00:43:21,565 And Gretchen, I know the first time you were listening 876 00:43:21,565 --> 00:43:24,702 to it, your comment to me was the voices are coming from the back of the room. 877 00:43:28,005 --> 00:43:30,407 So one of the things about this 878 00:43:30,407 --> 00:43:34,511 that really kind of impressed me is going through the setup process. 879 00:43:35,512 --> 00:43:37,781 And in this, 880 00:43:37,781 --> 00:43:41,118 the stereo system itself came with a microphone, 881 00:43:41,552 --> 00:43:44,288 and you put the microphone in your listening position 882 00:43:44,288 --> 00:43:46,690 where you're going to sit in the room, and then it runs through a test setup 883 00:43:46,690 --> 00:43:50,194 and it automatically through the use of AI, determines 884 00:43:50,194 --> 00:43:53,230 what's going to sound best for your position in the room. 885 00:43:53,831 --> 00:43:54,198 Okay. 886 00:43:54,198 --> 00:43:57,101 So if you're Sheldon, you get it. 887 00:43:57,101 --> 00:44:03,040 It's it's set for your spot and everybody else gets stuck with a bad spot. 888 00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:06,577 Well, okay, it would be primarily Sheldon 889 00:44:06,577 --> 00:44:09,580 big bang reference for anybody that doesn't know Big Bang Theory. 890 00:44:10,381 --> 00:44:12,616 For your position in the room, it would be best. 891 00:44:12,616 --> 00:44:13,751 But let's just put it this way. 892 00:44:13,751 --> 00:44:16,820 I have not had anybody complain about other spots in the room. 893 00:44:17,254 --> 00:44:19,690 Okay, so it is. It is very good. 894 00:44:19,690 --> 00:44:22,126 But your primary spot would be basically what it's 895 00:44:23,127 --> 00:44:23,694 set up 896 00:44:23,694 --> 00:44:26,697 that that's the location where it's going to be audio nirvana. 897 00:44:26,797 --> 00:44:27,297 Right. 898 00:44:27,297 --> 00:44:30,300 Okay. So. 899 00:44:30,901 --> 00:44:34,238 So you know and this technology's continue to grow here. 900 00:44:34,238 --> 00:44:37,374 It's kind of gone full circle because there was a time 901 00:44:37,408 --> 00:44:41,111 with audio equipment, 80s and 90s that you had this 902 00:44:41,111 --> 00:44:43,213 big giant stereo and showed it off to everybody. 903 00:44:43,213 --> 00:44:46,417 The speakers were the height of the room sometimes and that kind of thing. 904 00:44:46,717 --> 00:44:48,619 And now it's almost like, in a way, 905 00:44:48,619 --> 00:44:51,722 except for the weirdos like us that are into retro electronics, 906 00:44:51,922 --> 00:44:54,925 that you don't want to see the technology, you just want to hear it. 907 00:44:55,325 --> 00:44:57,761 And, you know, that's kind of where it's coming through here. 908 00:44:57,761 --> 00:45:01,598 There's a thing called Aurora cars now that actually leverages 909 00:45:01,832 --> 00:45:04,802 Bluetooth to make like radio broadcasting. 910 00:45:04,802 --> 00:45:07,538 So anybody that has a device that's compatible with this can go 911 00:45:07,538 --> 00:45:11,442 into a situation on their personal device here, what's being sent out. 912 00:45:11,575 --> 00:45:16,613 So think about you go to a museum and you have your own headset on your phone. 913 00:45:16,613 --> 00:45:18,716 So your earbuds whatever. Right. 914 00:45:18,716 --> 00:45:22,352 And you have the setup when you walk into the appropriate room and the museum, 915 00:45:22,352 --> 00:45:25,456 you can hear whatever it is they're doing over your Bluetooth connection 916 00:45:26,557 --> 00:45:28,592 are okay. 917 00:45:28,592 --> 00:45:31,595 So, you know, that's a step that's kind of a new thing. 918 00:45:31,762 --> 00:45:34,565 I haven't heard of this much 919 00:45:34,565 --> 00:45:37,768 until earlier this year when I saw it for the first time somewhere. 920 00:45:37,768 --> 00:45:42,072 So it's definitely brand new and it uses low power 921 00:45:42,272 --> 00:45:45,275 Bluetooth low power, I believe is what it's called. 922 00:45:46,009 --> 00:45:50,514 And from that standpoint, it's able to, you know, do that kind of a thing. 923 00:45:50,514 --> 00:45:52,483 So what in the old days was a radio station? 924 00:45:52,483 --> 00:45:53,484 Now you would pick it up, 925 00:45:53,484 --> 00:45:55,686 I think where I'm going to leverage this as my holiday lights. 926 00:45:55,686 --> 00:45:58,856 We're going to be talking about that technology up here in a couple of weeks. 927 00:45:59,056 --> 00:45:59,423 But you know, 928 00:45:59,423 --> 00:46:00,924 you have to do the audio broadcast to go 929 00:46:00,924 --> 00:46:03,360 along with what's going on with the lights. 930 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,662 And I'm going to be doing that for the first time this year. 931 00:46:05,662 --> 00:46:09,399 I'm sure my age is going to love me for that, but oh well. 932 00:46:09,633 --> 00:46:12,102 And I'm going to be trying out Aurora cast. 933 00:46:12,102 --> 00:46:14,204 I'm still going to have a transmitter 934 00:46:14,204 --> 00:46:17,641 with my hacker RF radio that will do the FM broadcast as well, 935 00:46:17,941 --> 00:46:21,245 but most modern cars have Bluetooth capability in them already, 936 00:46:21,245 --> 00:46:23,380 so it should work with that. So we'll see what happens. 937 00:46:25,682 --> 00:46:28,252 So anyway, my girlfriend teases me about this 938 00:46:28,252 --> 00:46:29,553 because the whole retro tech thing. 939 00:46:29,553 --> 00:46:32,422 So I've got an Atmos THX setup. 940 00:46:32,422 --> 00:46:35,559 And the other thing I have is Dolby Vision, which among other things, 941 00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:39,530 is really clear clarity on the screen and the backlit. 942 00:46:39,530 --> 00:46:41,899 So the lights behind the television match, 943 00:46:41,899 --> 00:46:44,001 what's on the screen, all this kind of stuff. 944 00:46:44,001 --> 00:46:46,336 And it works really well for playing Pac-Man. 945 00:46:46,336 --> 00:46:51,875 I just haven't been able to get that into stereo yet. Oh. 946 00:46:53,310 --> 00:46:55,579 Oh man, I had to do some weird things. 947 00:46:55,579 --> 00:46:58,816 I got my, a Sega Genesis set up, and I found out it doesn't 948 00:46:58,849 --> 00:47:01,885 actually output stereo sound except through the headphone jack on it, 949 00:47:01,885 --> 00:47:04,822 so I rewired it so the headphone jack is now what's going out? 950 00:47:04,822 --> 00:47:07,324 The audio output on the back of the thing. It worked. 951 00:47:07,324 --> 00:47:09,693 You know, so I don't know. 952 00:47:09,693 --> 00:47:10,327 What do you guys think? 953 00:47:10,327 --> 00:47:12,262 Still Bluetooth speaker, do you? 954 00:47:12,262 --> 00:47:14,364 Gretchen, I know we just rebuilt your Kenwood system 955 00:47:14,364 --> 00:47:17,100 from the early 80s, which was a lot of fun. Yeah. 956 00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:20,037 And we still need to probably reorganize 957 00:47:20,037 --> 00:47:24,208 all of the pieces before we can really get into it. 958 00:47:25,409 --> 00:47:27,044 But yeah, I'm excited about it. 959 00:47:27,044 --> 00:47:28,011 So Gretchen has. 960 00:47:28,011 --> 00:47:31,014 And I will not give the address where this is so that, 961 00:47:32,883 --> 00:47:34,685 in original 962 00:47:34,685 --> 00:47:38,088 serial number matched Kenwood component system, 963 00:47:38,088 --> 00:47:41,525 including the cabinet with the Kenwood logo on the door and everything. 964 00:47:41,792 --> 00:47:45,762 It's in pristine condition, and it had been in storage for a long time. 965 00:47:45,762 --> 00:47:46,597 So we've been going through 966 00:47:46,597 --> 00:47:48,732 changing belts, changing caps where necessary, 967 00:47:48,732 --> 00:47:50,701 that kind of a thing, and getting the system up and running. 968 00:47:50,701 --> 00:47:55,172 And to this point, well, apparently my dad turned it up 969 00:47:55,172 --> 00:47:58,175 way too loud while my mom was away and, 970 00:47:59,343 --> 00:48:00,844 blew the amp. 971 00:48:00,844 --> 00:48:02,246 Yeah, 972 00:48:02,246 --> 00:48:05,449 he blew out one of the power packs in the amplifier. 973 00:48:05,482 --> 00:48:09,486 Getting that fixed was pretty straightforward, but the belts were, 974 00:48:09,519 --> 00:48:09,820 you know, 975 00:48:09,820 --> 00:48:11,889 getting to a point where they were starting to turn to mush, 976 00:48:11,889 --> 00:48:14,925 which I'm glad we got at the point we did, because that's incredibly difficult to 977 00:48:14,958 --> 00:48:16,293 clean up when that happens. 978 00:48:17,995 --> 00:48:21,164 Belts and old systems will turn into kind of like a goo. 979 00:48:21,431 --> 00:48:24,434 Don't forget, your trash cans 980 00:48:24,635 --> 00:48:27,638 will turn into a goo, and when that happens, 981 00:48:27,838 --> 00:48:31,975 you end up with a situation that in addition to taking out your trash cans, 982 00:48:32,242 --> 00:48:35,612 you have a situation that trying to clean it up can be very difficult. 983 00:48:35,612 --> 00:48:38,215 And you go through a lot of Q-tips, among other things. 984 00:48:38,215 --> 00:48:40,350 So really? Yeah. 985 00:48:40,350 --> 00:48:42,552 Wow. Doesn't sound like a lot of fun. 986 00:48:42,552 --> 00:48:43,720 No it's not. 987 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:47,190 And I'm kind of dreading that I have a original sharp, 988 00:48:48,158 --> 00:48:50,360 I think it's a 1000 boom box. 989 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,129 It has a full vertical record player 990 00:48:52,129 --> 00:48:53,730 in it, among other things, that has that problem. 991 00:48:53,730 --> 00:48:57,567 I'm going to restoring that this winter, and I'm prepared for a lot of that. 992 00:48:57,567 --> 00:49:00,938 So let us know what you think about audio and if there's any other questions 993 00:49:00,938 --> 00:49:03,006 you want us to touch on, send them in. 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