1 00:00:03,665 --> 00:00:06,625 Marvin: Hey, folks, it's Marvin Cash, the host of the Articulate Fly, 2 00:00:06,725 --> 00:00:10,905 Marvin: and we're back with another East Tennessee fishing report with Ellis Ward. Ellis, how are you? 3 00:00:12,085 --> 00:00:14,025 Ellis: I am doing well, Marv. How are you? 4 00:00:14,245 --> 00:00:18,325 Marvin: As always, just trying to stay out of trouble. And, you know, 5 00:00:18,365 --> 00:00:22,225 Marvin: we were hopeful that the hot weather was kind of going to be a thing of the 6 00:00:22,225 --> 00:00:24,745 Marvin: past, but I don't think that's necessarily going to be the case. 7 00:00:26,205 --> 00:00:30,585 Ellis: You know i've been saying since i met you that i don't know why you're trying 8 00:00:30,585 --> 00:00:36,785 Ellis: to predict the weather it's your job is not meteorology yeah. 9 00:00:36,785 --> 00:00:40,665 Marvin: Um although you know matt and i said that you should be picking the uh the first 10 00:00:40,665 --> 00:00:41,865 Marvin: snowfall in johnson city. 11 00:00:41,865 --> 00:00:49,765 Ellis: What what was i like three months off of the last freeze date a couple of years ago. 12 00:00:49,885 --> 00:00:50,905 Marvin: Yeah. It was bad. 13 00:00:51,705 --> 00:00:55,745 Ellis: Yeah. It's same thing happens this time of year. 14 00:00:56,005 --> 00:01:03,345 Ellis: It's, you know, we had a couple of mornings in the upper fifties and, 15 00:01:04,885 --> 00:01:09,705 Ellis: and that's kind of closer to not that I'm very near a quote unquote city, 16 00:01:09,805 --> 00:01:13,665 Ellis: but you start getting a little more elevation and, um, 17 00:01:16,005 --> 00:01:23,725 Ellis: The musky water is dropping from 71, 72 at peak temps in the afternoon to mid 18 00:01:23,725 --> 00:01:26,545 Ellis: to upper 60s by the morning. 19 00:01:28,785 --> 00:01:33,425 Ellis: Trout, the tailwaters are a little more insulated with the giant lakes feeding them. 20 00:01:34,105 --> 00:01:38,625 Ellis: So there's not a, I think, changing daylight. 21 00:01:40,565 --> 00:01:46,145 Ellis: Large temperature arcs tend to influence. the trout a little more. 22 00:01:47,845 --> 00:01:53,185 Ellis: But, you know, all that said, of course, we're finding our way back to the mean 23 00:01:53,185 --> 00:01:56,665 Ellis: and it was nice and toasty today. 24 00:01:58,065 --> 00:02:01,005 Marvin: And so what does that translate to on the water for you? 25 00:02:04,185 --> 00:02:04,665 Ellis: Well, 26 00:02:07,805 --> 00:02:13,665 Ellis: the, you know, those fronts And depending on which side of these fronts you 27 00:02:13,665 --> 00:02:20,025 Ellis: might be on can encourage or discourage bug activity, 28 00:02:20,365 --> 00:02:27,965 Ellis: that's really where you can see it and almost feel it and hear it. 29 00:02:27,965 --> 00:02:30,965 Ellis: That you're seeing ospreys and herons more. 30 00:02:31,105 --> 00:02:33,525 Ellis: The things are just a little more alive. 31 00:02:33,685 --> 00:02:40,925 Ellis: Now, I've mentioned that before, but being on the other side of it now for the 32 00:02:40,925 --> 00:02:46,845 Ellis: last couple days and now back into a warming trend, it's big skies. 33 00:02:47,305 --> 00:02:53,805 Ellis: And a couple days ago, actually, it's Monday, so Saturday... 34 00:02:56,312 --> 00:03:01,792 Ellis: I would qualify it as bad fishing conditions. 35 00:03:01,932 --> 00:03:09,852 Ellis: Very, very bright, very clear sky, and not super buggy. 36 00:03:10,372 --> 00:03:17,912 Ellis: And there's a bunch of different dynamics that come into play for each of these seasons. 37 00:03:18,032 --> 00:03:21,812 Ellis: And honestly, day-to-day with the tailwaters as the flows change. 38 00:03:21,812 --> 00:03:25,572 Ellis: Engine um we we 39 00:03:25,572 --> 00:03:28,632 Ellis: managed to pick off a few 40 00:03:28,632 --> 00:03:32,752 Ellis: risers i i 41 00:03:32,752 --> 00:03:35,592 Ellis: tried to encourage the angler to take one 42 00:03:35,592 --> 00:03:38,492 Ellis: or two horsepower off of the hook 43 00:03:38,492 --> 00:03:41,692 Ellis: set um but like really really 44 00:03:41,692 --> 00:03:45,612 Ellis: eagerly feeding trout in really big water and 45 00:03:45,612 --> 00:03:48,352 Ellis: then i i mean 46 00:03:48,352 --> 00:03:52,132 Ellis: we probably moved 20 two dozen 47 00:03:52,132 --> 00:04:00,572 Ellis: maybe um a couple nice ones in there and it was one of the dynamics that happens 48 00:04:00,572 --> 00:04:06,632 Ellis: this time of year and um forgive me for repeating myself from whether episodes 49 00:04:06,632 --> 00:04:11,812 Ellis: pass for my time with you but you you lift up a rock in 50 00:04:12,212 --> 00:04:20,712 Ellis: mid to late august and and there's a couple little you know size 28 blue wing. 51 00:04:21,872 --> 00:04:30,092 Ellis: Maybe some straggler larger nymphs growing around there and um that that mayfly 52 00:04:30,092 --> 00:04:35,672 Ellis: food source that biomass has come and gone you're starting to see caddis. 53 00:04:37,432 --> 00:04:43,312 Ellis: Build you know they look like size 36s but they're they're building their little homes for, 54 00:04:44,392 --> 00:04:47,332 Ellis: april of next year like that's 55 00:04:47,332 --> 00:04:50,152 Ellis: what you're seeing most of and go to different rocks with 56 00:04:50,152 --> 00:04:54,472 Ellis: a little bit of vegetation on them and you're you're finding a if 57 00:04:54,472 --> 00:04:58,652 Ellis: you shake it off your hand looks like a science experiment it's just full of 58 00:04:58,652 --> 00:05:06,992 Ellis: scuds and that just looks so different compared to the the same rock a month 59 00:05:06,992 --> 00:05:13,492 Ellis: two months three months ago and so some of this activity like a, 60 00:05:14,512 --> 00:05:23,792 Ellis: a pretty darn good day of fishing on saturday um in pretty bad conditions generally speaking, 61 00:05:24,672 --> 00:05:29,092 Ellis: i i think can just be explained by what 62 00:05:29,092 --> 00:05:32,092 Ellis: they're eating and i don't i tend 63 00:05:32,092 --> 00:05:39,372 Ellis: to not lean on that as much because trout are very opportunistic that you know 64 00:05:39,372 --> 00:05:46,692 Ellis: the bigger they get the more moody and and the spookier they can be um but it 65 00:05:46,692 --> 00:05:51,692 Ellis: has been pretty bitey and in almost all. 66 00:05:52,852 --> 00:05:59,672 Ellis: Conditions and in the the fishy conditions man the last month has just been 67 00:05:59,672 --> 00:06:05,812 Ellis: And since mid-July and up until through now, 68 00:06:06,072 --> 00:06:12,652 Ellis: it's been some of the best fishing I've seen. 69 00:06:15,992 --> 00:06:19,592 Ellis: I think that has a lot to do with I continue to fish and guide more. 70 00:06:19,592 --> 00:06:22,372 Ellis: But just getting out 71 00:06:22,372 --> 00:06:25,452 Ellis: there and and doing the 72 00:06:25,452 --> 00:06:32,612 Ellis: high risk high reward stuff and and fishing in ways that i'm the only boat on 73 00:06:32,612 --> 00:06:37,492 Ellis: a lot of the runs that i'm doing and um you know that that includes mousing 74 00:06:37,492 --> 00:06:42,452 Ellis: which as you experienced you get that high risk comes with, 75 00:06:44,548 --> 00:06:52,488 Ellis: The other side of if you don't get rewarded is a big fat zero. 76 00:06:52,788 --> 00:06:58,668 Ellis: And so I've continued to go with that high risk, high reward. 77 00:06:58,988 --> 00:07:09,328 Ellis: And yeah, it doesn't pay off sometimes, but a lot of times you miss a couple fish. 78 00:07:09,328 --> 00:07:12,068 Ellis: Fish and heck if one's 20 and 79 00:07:12,068 --> 00:07:14,688 Ellis: one's 22 that could be the like all of a 80 00:07:14,688 --> 00:07:17,748 Ellis: sudden these these missed eats or those could 81 00:07:17,748 --> 00:07:22,588 Ellis: be the best that that could be quote-unquote the best fishing day of of someone's 82 00:07:22,588 --> 00:07:27,088 Ellis: life and and you go home with a goose egg so there's you know there's such a 83 00:07:27,088 --> 00:07:33,588 Ellis: learning curve to all of this and um it it's clearly if you can't tell from 84 00:07:33,588 --> 00:07:35,288 Ellis: me rambling it's been an exciting, 85 00:07:36,328 --> 00:07:42,388 Ellis: Last month or so, um, both guiding and fishing on my own. 86 00:07:43,348 --> 00:07:46,808 Marvin: Yeah. It's funny. We were talking before we started recording and you're like, 87 00:07:46,848 --> 00:07:50,188 Marvin: you're so screwed up from your crazy fishing hours, daytime, 88 00:07:50,508 --> 00:07:55,208 Marvin: nighttime that you kind of, um, you're almost, you might have some form of like 89 00:07:55,208 --> 00:07:56,708 Marvin: a fishing delirium, right? 90 00:07:58,148 --> 00:08:03,188 Ellis: Yeah. I don't, I think they made a movie about me called Memento. 91 00:08:03,188 --> 00:08:08,568 Ellis: Some guy doesn't know where he is, and that's going to hit for like 1% of this 92 00:08:08,568 --> 00:08:12,048 Ellis: audience, but it should hit pretty hard. 93 00:08:12,808 --> 00:08:17,848 Marvin: I see the movie poster right now and, you know, got a question for you from 94 00:08:17,848 --> 00:08:20,828 Marvin: a long-time listener, Fleas and Meat. 95 00:08:21,308 --> 00:08:24,808 Marvin: And he's got a mousing question for you, and he wanted to get your thoughts 96 00:08:24,808 --> 00:08:31,148 Marvin: on, you know, what you can do kind of from a cadence of strip and presentation, 97 00:08:31,228 --> 00:08:34,508 Marvin: you know, when you're mousing in difficult conditions like when it's cooler 98 00:08:34,508 --> 00:08:37,528 Marvin: or, you know, the bite's not really on. What are some of your tricks? 99 00:08:40,571 --> 00:08:48,271 Ellis: Yeah, I mean, I find myself mousing, and specifically with clients, 100 00:08:48,511 --> 00:08:56,491 Ellis: just because it's at night and you can't see trees, mousing in areas that have 101 00:08:56,491 --> 00:08:59,991 Ellis: some of the froggiest water. 102 00:09:00,151 --> 00:09:03,751 Ellis: And, you know, when these tailwaters drop and you're fishing these flats with 103 00:09:03,751 --> 00:09:07,471 Ellis: weed beds, it's almost still water. 104 00:09:07,471 --> 00:09:15,971 Ellis: And it can be a little hard same with the stringer fishing it can be a little harder to. 105 00:09:18,091 --> 00:09:24,611 Ellis: Get the sales pitch all the way across the finish line and I'm already stealing 106 00:09:24,611 --> 00:09:30,371 Ellis: from Tommy Lynch and calling this a sales pitch but I've moused with him a good deal and, 107 00:09:31,491 --> 00:09:34,391 Ellis: you know it's a very different ball game on the 108 00:09:34,391 --> 00:09:39,651 Ellis: Pierre Marquette um but i've 109 00:09:39,651 --> 00:09:43,591 Ellis: i've learned a good deal from him and i've employed and 110 00:09:43,591 --> 00:09:48,451 Ellis: retweaked and over the course of now five years have have 111 00:09:48,451 --> 00:09:53,711 Ellis: had a lot of success and a much more subtle presentation so people talk about 112 00:09:53,711 --> 00:10:02,751 Ellis: you know milk in the gerbil and um almost two-handing and sometimes not almost 113 00:10:02,751 --> 00:10:08,291 Ellis: by literally two-handling a mouse fly with just these little tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. 114 00:10:10,031 --> 00:10:21,471 Ellis: I like to give it a lift or what would translate to a very long, slow, steady strip. 115 00:10:23,691 --> 00:10:26,891 Ellis: And then a drop or stopping it. 116 00:10:26,951 --> 00:10:32,291 Ellis: I like the lift because you get to, it's kind of a cheat code. 117 00:10:32,291 --> 00:10:36,551 Ellis: You lift, and it's creating a big B. 118 00:10:37,291 --> 00:10:42,411 Ellis: And then when you drop, that's the kill. Talk about the strip and kill on string recreation. 119 00:10:42,631 --> 00:10:46,671 Ellis: You drop, and you give them an opportunity to eat. 120 00:10:48,031 --> 00:10:55,531 Ellis: And when you're doing that, you're taking some line in and getting ready to lift again. 121 00:10:55,531 --> 00:10:58,511 Ellis: End and and a 122 00:10:58,511 --> 00:11:02,211 Ellis: lot of that's yeah 123 00:11:02,211 --> 00:11:05,211 Ellis: just off the top of my head the three biggest fish 124 00:11:05,211 --> 00:11:08,831 Ellis: which is say top three have come 125 00:11:08,831 --> 00:11:13,671 Ellis: on the lift and drop and you don't hear them you do not hear anything which 126 00:11:13,671 --> 00:11:20,791 Ellis: is spooky and it adds a little extra creepiness to night fishing that you're 127 00:11:20,791 --> 00:11:28,051 Ellis: You're getting a 25-inch fish and not hearing anything, not feeling it until... 128 00:11:29,799 --> 00:11:36,699 Ellis: You go to lift again, and the glow tip or whatever is tensions pushing straight down or moving. 129 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,819 Ellis: And then, I don't know if I've talked about the set or the no set, 130 00:11:43,979 --> 00:11:47,219 Ellis: but just don't. Don't set on. 131 00:11:48,899 --> 00:11:52,159 Ellis: It's not a dry fly, let it meet, then bang. 132 00:11:53,239 --> 00:11:57,639 Ellis: It's more of a gradual continue to apply pressure and drive that hook home. 133 00:11:57,719 --> 00:11:59,579 Ellis: Because they're holding on to a little critter. They don't want, 134 00:11:59,639 --> 00:12:05,179 Ellis: they already have it and sometimes they'll spit it out and sometimes they'll miss it. 135 00:12:05,219 --> 00:12:08,679 Ellis: But most of the time they have that thing and it's your job to keep it in their mouth. 136 00:12:08,779 --> 00:12:16,039 Ellis: And, um, and then you have to angle like this is, you know, part of angling 137 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:20,299 Ellis: part of fishing is casting your thing out there and getting a fish to eat it. 138 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:26,239 Ellis: The other part is bringing them into the boat. So there's the free lunches don't 139 00:12:26,239 --> 00:12:30,679 Ellis: exist when you're fishing for big routes. It's just, there's nothing easy about it. 140 00:12:32,059 --> 00:12:34,999 Ellis: And one of the most challenging parts is the, 141 00:12:34,999 --> 00:12:46,539 Ellis: the holy shoot moment of a giant fish is on the line and is six feet away from 142 00:12:46,539 --> 00:12:48,179 Ellis: the boat. Like, how do I get it in? 143 00:12:48,659 --> 00:12:53,959 Ellis: Um, I am, I employ the strategy of the sooner you can do it, 144 00:12:53,999 --> 00:12:57,339 Ellis: the better sufficient minimum 15 pound fluoro. 145 00:12:57,939 --> 00:13:05,079 Ellis: But, you know, back to that retrieve cadence, I would say another maybe two 146 00:13:05,079 --> 00:13:09,459 Ellis: or three different variations would just be giving it a pop and then letting it die. 147 00:13:09,779 --> 00:13:12,199 Ellis: And these kills... 148 00:13:14,327 --> 00:13:21,427 Ellis: Are count to three i mean they're painful it feels like you're not even fishing but, 149 00:13:22,067 --> 00:13:25,127 Ellis: the number of fish that have come on a mouse just drifting 150 00:13:25,127 --> 00:13:28,187 Ellis: after just a little bit of a lift they have 151 00:13:28,187 --> 00:13:30,987 Ellis: so much better vision than we give them 152 00:13:30,987 --> 00:13:33,627 Ellis: credit for and and yeah they're eating a little 153 00:13:33,627 --> 00:13:38,667 Ellis: bit from you know the wake and the noise of it splatting all that stuff but 154 00:13:38,667 --> 00:13:43,687 Ellis: they're tracking in that thing and and they don't really want to go after something 155 00:13:43,687 --> 00:13:48,687 Ellis: that's trying to get away like that that defeats the purpose of of what they're 156 00:13:48,687 --> 00:13:51,527 Ellis: doing they're going after an easy meal so um, 157 00:13:53,387 --> 00:14:00,027 Ellis: i might misquote this guy but i heard a we we heard some swamp monster right 158 00:14:00,027 --> 00:14:05,107 Ellis: in front of the boat and uh my angler jumped out he was pulling his fly off 159 00:14:05,107 --> 00:14:07,727 Ellis: the water and he jumped back and, 160 00:14:08,847 --> 00:14:12,947 Ellis: remarked that it made him check for his wallet. 161 00:14:14,047 --> 00:14:18,347 Ellis: And it was just such a close, loud swirl. 162 00:14:18,647 --> 00:14:22,087 Ellis: And, you know, there was no pump bake. There's no... 163 00:14:22,667 --> 00:14:27,707 Ellis: You got to give him an opportunity to eat. So really extend those kills. 164 00:14:27,827 --> 00:14:32,907 Ellis: And as much as it might not feel like you're fishing, if you're creating a small 165 00:14:32,907 --> 00:14:40,367 Ellis: wake on the surface and then you're giving it a full stop um. 166 00:14:42,552 --> 00:14:48,672 Ellis: That's the only thing that they really want to see, and you can do that a thousand different ways. 167 00:14:49,932 --> 00:14:53,772 Ellis: And for any more tips, you might have to get on my boat. 168 00:14:54,092 --> 00:14:57,012 Marvin: Yeah, there you go. We'll get to that in just one second. 169 00:14:57,812 --> 00:15:00,292 Marvin: But, you know, folks, we love questions on the Articulate Fly. 170 00:15:00,412 --> 00:15:04,552 Marvin: You can email them to us or DM us on social media, whatever is easiest for you. 171 00:15:04,772 --> 00:15:09,432 Marvin: And if we use your question, I will send you some Articulate Fly swag. 172 00:15:09,432 --> 00:15:13,332 Marvin: And then we are drawing for some cool stuff from, uh, from Ellis at the, 173 00:15:13,332 --> 00:15:14,392 Marvin: uh, at the end of the season. 174 00:15:14,512 --> 00:15:17,892 Marvin: And, uh, Ellis, before we talk about your calendar, we wanted to make sure we 175 00:15:17,892 --> 00:15:21,292 Marvin: gave a shout out to the newest fly shop in Johnson city. You want to tell folks about that? 176 00:15:22,132 --> 00:15:25,652 Ellis: Yeah, Tailwater Flyco. My boy, John, 177 00:15:25,952 --> 00:15:36,852 Ellis: who has been so supportive of me both as a friend and a client, 178 00:15:37,132 --> 00:15:40,772 Ellis: which is pretty largely unnecessary, 179 00:15:41,352 --> 00:15:46,132 Ellis: but he's actually the one who pushed me to find you, Marv. 180 00:15:46,232 --> 00:15:46,852 Marvin: Oh, wow. 181 00:15:46,852 --> 00:15:51,952 Ellis: So, yeah, this was a couple years ago, and I just put a video on Instagram like, 182 00:15:52,052 --> 00:15:56,592 Ellis: hey, if folks have been following me, you know, I'm not really a consumer of 183 00:15:56,592 --> 00:16:00,512 Ellis: guides, and I'm wondering how to get my message out. 184 00:16:01,912 --> 00:16:06,232 Ellis: And had some helpful replies, and John was one of them saying, 185 00:16:06,352 --> 00:16:11,192 Ellis: you know, you should do some regional podcasts and mentioned yours. 186 00:16:11,192 --> 00:16:15,612 Ellis: So John has opened Tailwater Fly Co. 187 00:16:16,592 --> 00:16:21,832 Ellis: Right next to the South Holston River and actually stopped in there with clients 188 00:16:21,832 --> 00:16:28,352 Ellis: a couple days ago when I forgot a net and went to grab his. And, yeah. 189 00:16:30,295 --> 00:16:33,175 Ellis: He might hate me for saying it, but he's close to opening up. 190 00:16:33,915 --> 00:16:40,995 Ellis: He's burning the candle at both ends. So he's getting a lot of stuff together. 191 00:16:41,095 --> 00:16:47,895 Ellis: And the amount of stuff that he had, I mean, it's a tire's paradise. 192 00:16:50,095 --> 00:16:59,815 Ellis: The guy is so fishy in all respects, but specifically with tying and which hooks. 193 00:17:00,295 --> 00:17:06,915 Ellis: And, you know, recognizing that there are big differences between this hook 194 00:17:06,915 --> 00:17:08,515 Ellis: and that hook. So he's got all of them. 195 00:17:08,615 --> 00:17:16,035 Ellis: A-Rex, Partridge, Daiichi, everything from, you know, size 22s up to 6-0ts. 196 00:17:17,855 --> 00:17:22,635 Ellis: And all different materials. He's going to have local tires doing some stuff. 197 00:17:22,695 --> 00:17:24,275 Ellis: He's going to have some of my bucktail there. 198 00:17:26,555 --> 00:17:36,355 Ellis: It's, we don't have that here. and you can go and get $2,000 waiters at a couple 199 00:17:36,355 --> 00:17:38,515 Ellis: different places, but you can't go and get, 200 00:17:38,695 --> 00:17:41,775 Ellis: oh man, he's got this silver grade, 201 00:17:42,495 --> 00:17:51,275 Ellis: he's got a bunch of silver grade whiting rooster saddles and nightmare musky fly stuff. 202 00:17:51,495 --> 00:17:54,955 Ellis: It's just, he's taken so 203 00:17:54,955 --> 00:18:02,295 Ellis: much knowledge and I talk with him a lot and he talks to my buddy Jack and really 204 00:18:02,295 --> 00:18:09,475 Ellis: just cramming a lot of fishing experience and knowledge into a place for people 205 00:18:09,475 --> 00:18:14,435 Ellis: to get materials both locally and then, John, 206 00:18:14,535 --> 00:18:15,935 Ellis: I promise I'm not giving you a deadline, 207 00:18:16,955 --> 00:18:20,855 Ellis: but I think over the winter getting the online stuff situated as well. 208 00:18:20,855 --> 00:18:25,335 Ellis: But it's already an impressive collection of tying materials, 209 00:18:25,595 --> 00:18:28,955 Ellis: and I know he's going to keep doing cool things there. 210 00:18:29,815 --> 00:18:32,355 Marvin: Very, very neat. And now to get to the booking stuff, right? 211 00:18:32,455 --> 00:18:36,315 Marvin: So we're kind of moving into pumpkin spice latte land, which means, 212 00:18:36,395 --> 00:18:38,995 Marvin: you know, at some point we're going to kind of start going down the mousing 213 00:18:38,995 --> 00:18:41,575 Marvin: roller coaster and start going up the musky roller coaster. 214 00:18:41,715 --> 00:18:44,075 Marvin: So what have you got and how should folks reach out? 215 00:18:45,883 --> 00:18:49,883 Ellis: I mean, if those are the two things that I'm doing, I can't believe I haven't 216 00:18:49,883 --> 00:18:53,143 Ellis: been hospitalized yet, but I guess I'm on my way. 217 00:18:53,423 --> 00:19:00,583 Ellis: So yeah, mousing, stringer fishing for browns and sort of year round. 218 00:19:00,703 --> 00:19:06,303 Ellis: But I really like to around this time of year, next month or so, 219 00:19:06,363 --> 00:19:12,103 Ellis: start getting more trips over towards the musky water. 220 00:19:12,103 --> 00:19:21,423 Ellis: And you can get more information on that or just ask me questions at elliswardwise.com 221 00:19:21,423 --> 00:19:28,423 Ellis: and request a trip, ask questions, whatever, 222 00:19:28,643 --> 00:19:35,303 Ellis: at my cell phone at 513-543-0019. 223 00:19:35,663 --> 00:19:40,183 Ellis: And Instagram is elliswardguides. 224 00:19:40,823 --> 00:19:43,163 Marvin: Yeah, well, there you go. Well, you know, folks, a couple things. 225 00:19:43,883 --> 00:19:47,143 Marvin: Don't forget, we have a great community at the Articulate Flyway hosted at Patreon. 226 00:19:47,323 --> 00:19:49,863 Marvin: There are two great ways to support the show and to support Ellis. 227 00:19:50,383 --> 00:19:53,643 Marvin: At one level, you get a discount on bucktails, and that's going to be very important 228 00:19:53,643 --> 00:19:55,423 Marvin: here in about six to eight weeks. 229 00:19:56,263 --> 00:19:59,963 Marvin: And then the other is a tier where you actually get $100 per year guide credit 230 00:19:59,963 --> 00:20:01,403 Marvin: with Ellis. So you should check those out. 231 00:20:02,003 --> 00:20:04,583 Marvin: And then, of course, we're heading into a holiday weekend. I want everyone to 232 00:20:04,583 --> 00:20:08,283 Marvin: have a happy and safe Labor Day weekend. And as I always say, 233 00:20:08,403 --> 00:20:09,943 Marvin: you owe it to yourself to get out there and catch a few. 234 00:20:10,183 --> 00:20:14,103 Marvin: Tight lines everybody tight lines ellis appreciate it.