>> Dr. Terry Simpson: M Today is my coming out party. Today I'm coming
Speaker:out. About me. Because this is the first new year
Speaker:of my adult life where weight loss is not at the
Speaker:top of my resolution list. And that's not because
Speaker:I gave up. It's because over the last year, I have
Speaker:lost 45 pounds with the help of Zephound, a GLP1
Speaker:agonist. And today on 4Q, I'm finally ready to
Speaker:tell you that story. Not as a success story, not
Speaker:as advice, and certainly not as a moral lesson,
Speaker:but as an honest account of what actually
Speaker:happened. Why this wasn't willpower, why it wasn't
Speaker:just eating better, and why this changed far more
Speaker:than my weight. Some of you know I'm a weight loss
Speaker:surgeon. Some of you know I'm trained in culinary
Speaker:medicine. And some of you know I've spent my
Speaker:career helping other people lose weight. What you
Speaker:may not know is how much shame I carried doing all
Speaker:that. So today I'm telling you my story. The
Speaker:guilt, the biology, the food noise, and what this
Speaker:last year has meant to me. Because if this story
Speaker:resonates with you or someone you love, that
Speaker:matters. This is the story of how science saved my
Speaker:life. This is also the first new year where I
Speaker:don't have weight loss as a resolution. In fact,
Speaker:I've had weight loss as my New Year's resolution
Speaker:since Ronald Reagan was first elected. Every year,
Speaker:same promise, same guilt. And I don't think I ever
Speaker:promised that more strongly than in 2010 when my
Speaker:son JJ was born. I'm, um, one of those older
Speaker:parents. I know it's hard to believe, but if there
Speaker:was ever motivation, that was it. I was going to
Speaker:lose weight. I was going to get healthier because
Speaker:I had this little child that I wanted to spend a
Speaker:lot of the rest of my life knowing. Some years the
Speaker:promise was stronger. Some years it was better.
Speaker:Every year until this last year, I might lose a
Speaker:few, then gain it back. I know how to eat. I know
Speaker:how to cook. Do you know that I almost set the
Speaker:record for logging my daily food on Noom or over
Speaker:2000 days? This was never about knowledge. This
Speaker:was never about effort. I am your Chief Medical
Speaker:Explanationist, Dr. Terri Simpson, and this is
Speaker:Fork U Fork University, where we make sense of the
Speaker:madness of weight loss, bust myths, and talk
Speaker:honestly about food and medicine.
Speaker:Let's talk talk about willpower. And let me start
Speaker:with a confession. I've known the truth about
Speaker:willpower for years. I just didn't believe it for
Speaker:myself. I have willpower. I'm a surgeon, you don't
Speaker:get through surgical training without willpower.
Speaker:And you don't stand in an operating room for hours
Speaker:making decisions that matter without willpower.
Speaker:And let's be honest. Oprah has willpower. She has
Speaker:discipline. She has access. She has resources. And
Speaker:yet all the willpower in the world didn't allow me
Speaker:or Oprah to lose weight and keep it off. Sure,
Speaker:with enough willpower, you can lose weight for a
Speaker:while. God knows I've done it. Liquid protein
Speaker:diets, rigid eating, white knuckling my way
Speaker:through, you'll lose the weight. I've done it more
Speaker:than once. But you still hear the food noise.
Speaker:Willpower doesn't quiet food noise. It doesn't
Speaker:shut off the background pull toward food just
Speaker:tells you to fight it all day, every day. And
Speaker:eventually, food noise wins. Because biology beats
Speaker:psychology every single time. You can't willpower
Speaker:your way out of obesity any more than you can
Speaker:positive think your way out of high blood pressure
Speaker:or high cholesterol or diabetes or heart disease
Speaker:or cancer. We don't tell people with hypertension
Speaker:to believe harder yet with obesity, we pretend
Speaker:willpower is the treatment. It isn't. And here's
Speaker:where my shame lived. As a weight loss surgeon, I
Speaker:told my patients this. I corrected people when
Speaker:they said surgery was the easy way out. Because
Speaker:surgery does not make the stomach smaller. It
Speaker:changes gut hormones. It changes brain signaling.
Speaker:It changes appetite regulation. It changes
Speaker:biology. I believed that data fully for everyone
Speaker:else, but not for me. I held myself to a different
Speaker:standard. I gave everyone else grace, but I didn't
Speaker:give it to myself. I didn't gain more willpower
Speaker:from a needle. I'm not a better person because I
Speaker:lost weight. I'm not morally superior because I
Speaker:moved from obese to a normal weight. I didn't
Speaker:become more disciplined. The biology changed.
Speaker:That's it. I know this intellectually. I taught
Speaker:it, I lived it through my patients, but I didn't
Speaker:apply it to myself. You know, we have a name for
Speaker:that, cognitive dissonance. Now, when I look back,
Speaker:the turning point came down to two people and one
Speaker:event before that. Let me say this clearly. This
Speaker:wasn't ignorance. I'd known about GLP1 medications
Speaker:for years. I'd read the trials. I understood the
Speaker:mechanism. I prescribed them to my patients, and
Speaker:my patients did well. But knowing the science and
Speaker:believing it applies to you are two different
Speaker:things. About seven years ago, a very good friend
Speaker:of mine, an internist, was one of the
Speaker:investigators setting GLP1 medications for weight
Speaker:loss. She was stunned by the results and told me
Speaker:that these medications are going to replace weight
Speaker:loss surgery. Sure, I said. I wasn't impressed.
Speaker:I'd seen other weight loss medications before, but
Speaker:the data wasn't weak. Anyway, let's start with my
Speaker:journey. It was a nurse that I worked with.
Speaker:Nothing dramatic, nothing preachy. She just kept
Speaker:losing weight quietly. And she mentioned her
Speaker:experience on ozempic and would occasionally ask
Speaker:me as a weight loss surgeon about ozempic. No
Speaker:evangelism, um, no sales pitch. She felt better.
Speaker:She did easier. The food noise was gone. Now, as a
Speaker:surgeon, you learn to respect quiet results
Speaker:because they are typically real. The second was a
Speaker:person. Someone I work with in Alaska. In fact,
Speaker:she and I grew up in the same town, Ketchikan.
Speaker:Then she told me something that stopped me cold.
Speaker:Yep, she had lost weight, but that wasn't the
Speaker:headline. She said the food noise stopped. And
Speaker:then she said something else. Her interest in
Speaker:alcohol dropped. And she had stopped smoking. This
Speaker:is when it stopped being about weight. That's when
Speaker:about the biology of it became real. Then came the
Speaker:event. Eli Lilly lowered the self pay price to
Speaker:about $500 a month. Suddenly, this wasn't
Speaker:theoretical. This was something I could budget. So
Speaker:I called my friend, Dr. Michael Albert. Now,
Speaker:Michael is a board certified obesity medicine
Speaker:specialist. And that matters. If you're
Speaker:considering this journey, Find someone who's
Speaker:actually trained in obesity medicine, not someone
Speaker:who says they are. Michael assumed I was calling
Speaker:about a patient. I said, no, no Michael. I'm
Speaker:calling about me. No judgment. Just one question.
Speaker:What's your height and weight? That was 45 pounds
Speaker:ago.
Speaker:Let me tell you about the first injection. The
Speaker:package derived from Eli Lilly. Inside were vials
Speaker:of zepbound syringes, needles, alcohol, swabs. I
Speaker:have a confession to make. Even though I got the
Speaker:polio vaccine, even though I keep up with my
Speaker:boosters, I hate needles. I. I hate them. I don't
Speaker:like them. I don't like getting injections. I will
Speaker:put off for any reason getting a booster, even
Speaker:though I do it. So I did the appropriate thing. I
Speaker:hydrated with Pedialyte in case there was some
Speaker:nausea. And, um, finding subcutaneous fat for my
Speaker:first injection. It just wasn't a problem. I mean,
Speaker:a man with belly has options. So I put alcohol on
Speaker:the vial. I put the air from the syringe into the
Speaker:vial. I swiped my skin with alcohol, thinking, am
Speaker:I really doing this? And I did it. I put the
Speaker:needle in. I put the plunger down. In half A CC
Speaker:was 2.5 milligrams of Zepbound subcutaneous. That
Speaker:was it. I wondered if I needed a sucker. The next
Speaker:morning, my partner said, that is the first time
Speaker:you haven't snored in years. I checked my withing
Speaker:sleep score. It was the best it had ever been. I
Speaker:had hardly ever cracked 70 as a sleep score, and
Speaker:all of a sudden, I was hitting the 80s. Let me
Speaker:tell you about another change. Before I injected
Speaker:myself, I did something very telling. I bought a
Speaker:new blender. Because when you know you're going to
Speaker:change your life or make a new habit, you prepare.
Speaker:It's like when I decided to take up running again.
Speaker:Before the first run, I, of course, bought new
Speaker:shoes and a tracksuit. Matching, of course. Same
Speaker:instinct. So I knew this change might mean more
Speaker:smoothies. Not just as a diet trick, but as a
Speaker:practical way to get nutrition in, you know, the
Speaker:fruits, the ber, that good stuff. And my Vitamix
Speaker:had been with me for 15 years. But it's a beast,
Speaker:and I wanted something easier. After all, I was
Speaker:going to inject myself. I deserved a simple
Speaker:blender. And so I did the research. I saw
Speaker:Wirecutter from the New York Times. I read
Speaker:reviews. I looked at comparisons. I saw lots of
Speaker:videos on TikTok, my favorite medium. And I bought
Speaker:a Nutribullet. Amazon delivered it the day before
Speaker:I started Zepboun. So I unpacked it, didn't read
Speaker:the instructions, of course, and had all the parts
Speaker:washed and ready to go. The next morning, after my
Speaker:first injection, I wondered about my breakfast.
Speaker:And I was traveling that day. So I made my usual
Speaker:smoothie, which is kind of for me. Oat milk, a
Speaker:banana, frozen blueberries, some egg protein. I'm
Speaker:lactose intolerant, some peanut butter. And by the
Speaker:way, if you want the recipe, it's on
Speaker:terrysimpson.com now. You need to understand
Speaker:something about me. If you've not known me. I am
Speaker:known for eating fast. People notice it. I'm
Speaker:usually the first one diet, always. And so that
Speaker:morning, when I was traveling along in my commute,
Speaker:which is about two hours at the time, that
Speaker:smoothie wasn't guzzled. I would sip a little bit
Speaker:and put it down normally with my smoothie. If I'm
Speaker:traveling, that smoothie is gone, like a man who
Speaker:found an oasis in the middle of desert. But this I
Speaker:sipped, not consciously. It just happened. And
Speaker:then that night, I made some salmon with broccoli
Speaker:and chickpeas, one of my favorite recipes, and I
Speaker:love salmon. And I ate it slowly and then I
Speaker:stopped. I ate half the plate. Not because I was
Speaker:uncomfortable, that was just done. Something had
Speaker:stopped. Something went quiet and reminded me.
Speaker:That's food noise. Do you know what it reminded me
Speaker:of? Years ago, when I was at the University of
Speaker:Chicago, I slept with the city noise. I lived by
Speaker:Lakeshore Drive, There were trains in the
Speaker:background, there was lots of cars going by 24
Speaker:hours a day. And I would sleep to that. You never
Speaker:noticed that background noise until I would go
Speaker:home to catch canalaska at my parents house. And I
Speaker:would take time to fall asleep because there
Speaker:wasn't that background city noise. It was gone.
Speaker:And that's what happened in my brain. Food noise
Speaker:was gone. I didn't even know it was there. That's
Speaker:what food noise was.
Speaker:So things that changed first, before the scale
Speaker:moved, that first night sleep, the second thing I
Speaker:noticed was stress. Now sleep resets hormones,
Speaker:lowers inflammation, recalibrates metabolism.
Speaker:We've known this for years. And less sleep
Speaker:actually increases appetite. Stress does. Does
Speaker:too. So before this, you know, I commute a lot. I
Speaker:live in the north LA central coast area and
Speaker:commuting is just sort of a fact of life here. But
Speaker:hours of commute meant a lot of physiologic
Speaker:stress. And so when I would look at my Withings or
Speaker:my whoop watch and you would see the amount of
Speaker:stress I would have, if I had commuted two hours a
Speaker:day, I'd have two hours of stress. Now I notice
Speaker:the first week I might have five minutes of
Speaker:stress. Calories didn't lower the stress, calories
Speaker:didn't improve the sleep, the biology did. And
Speaker:over time, friends started to notice. People
Speaker:noticed. Now I have a few friends that were a
Speaker:little more corpulent and they would always ask
Speaker:when they would see me, hey, what diet are you on?
Speaker:What are you doing, Terry? So finally I told them
Speaker:different ones at different times. And one by one,
Speaker:all of them began their own journey on zeppbound.
Speaker:And without planning it, we formed our own little
Speaker:support group. They would call me or text me when
Speaker:they had an issue like, is this normal? What would
Speaker:you do? Does this go away? And we would talk it
Speaker:through, not as coaching, not as a program, just
Speaker:people who understand. Let me tell you about one
Speaker:of my friends. She travels constantly. If you were
Speaker:to see her Instagram, if you follow her, it's full
Speaker:of wonderful foods from wonderful restaurants
Speaker:around the something like 50 plus countries she's
Speaker:visited. I have traveled with her around the world
Speaker:and we both love great food and oddly, we still
Speaker:do. She still Loves great food. I still love great
Speaker:food. When we go out to eat together, we get great
Speaker:food. Interestingly, our desire for wine has kind
Speaker:of completely gone, but we still enjoy great food.
Speaker:Just small plates. Enjoy the taste, not the
Speaker:volume. I have another buddy, he travels
Speaker:constantly for work. Great guy. He has this
Speaker:amazing workout regimen he does in every hotel
Speaker:room, involving 100 push ups and calisthenics and
Speaker:all of this stuff. And he was in shape, it was
Speaker:just a round shape. So he asked me, what are you
Speaker:doing, Terry? And I said, I'm doing Zepbound. I
Speaker:gave him the number of my guy, Dr. Albert. He
Speaker:called him up, he started it. You know, New Year's
Speaker:is coming. And he said, he started laughing. He
Speaker:said I had to buy a new tuxedo. Look at this. He
Speaker:looks great. Then there's another friend of mine.
Speaker:He's a fellow physician. I've known him for 25
Speaker:years. We have gone and lectured together in
Speaker:countries from New Zealand to Sweden and always go
Speaker:out together at great restaurants. I've seen him
Speaker:go up and down in weight over time. Oh, I'm on the
Speaker:Paleo diet. I'm losing weight and then regaining
Speaker:the weight. Now he's on Zepbound. And like me,
Speaker:he'll say, what do you think? Should I increase in
Speaker:dose? Anyway, I've always believed in support
Speaker:groups, but now I understand them from the inside.
Speaker:I'm not your coach, and I don't do this alone. I
Speaker:work with a company called Accomplished Health.
Speaker:No, they don't pay me, they don't sponsor the
Speaker:podcast, but they practice real obesity medicine.
Speaker:And maybe if they hear this, they'll send me a
Speaker:coffee cup, which I would love. Here's a warning.
Speaker:If you eat less, you still need micronutrients.
Speaker:And that's not theoretical. Here's the thing, as a
Speaker:weight loss surgeon, I've always told my patients,
Speaker:you need to take a multivitamin. And I realized on
Speaker:a GLP1, I need to take a multivitamin also. And
Speaker:the first time I ever threw up, the only time I've
Speaker:thrown up on this, was when I took a vitamin on an
Speaker:empty stomach. Sip of coffee and boom, it wasn't
Speaker:staying down. Now, I'd heard this for years from
Speaker:weight loss surgery patients that some vitamins
Speaker:just don't work. And I even tried some of these
Speaker:fancy bariatric vitamins and they didn't work
Speaker:either. And the one vitamin group that worked for
Speaker:me was AG1. No, again, not a sponsorship. It's not
Speaker:an ad. They don't pay me. This stuff is way too
Speaker:expensive. Which made me think I should probably
Speaker:develop a vitamin routine for people on empty
Speaker:stomachs, because vitamins are critical,
Speaker:especially thiamine, and the deficiency in
Speaker:thiamine can be devastating. That's another reason
Speaker:you really need someone to help you with this
Speaker:journey.
Speaker:Now let's talk bowel movements. Here's something
Speaker:really simple. If you eat less, you're going to
Speaker:have fewer bowel movements and that does not mean
Speaker:constipation. Less in means less out. You don't
Speaker:need to go to the bathroom every day. Fiber still
Speaker:matters. Mediterranean diet helps naturally.
Speaker:Vitamins, legumes, whole groups. This is about
Speaker:understanding physiology and not panicking so why
Speaker:am I going to write a book? I remember I was
Speaker:disturbed when I saw a physician who's never been
Speaker:on GL Pillar 1, never been on a wait list, but is
Speaker:an obesity physician and fairly good and wrote a
Speaker:book about how to eat on one. And I realized with
Speaker:my background weight loss, surgery, culinary
Speaker:medicine and living is I have to write a book and
Speaker:I'm thinking of calling it Willpower Is bs. You
Speaker:know me. Subtle. Now my book agent retired long
Speaker:ago, so if any of you know or are a good literary
Speaker:agent, hey, hit me up. I'm back in the market.
Speaker:Anyway, this is just part one of this journey and
Speaker:as I record this, I'm about to inject 7m.5mg dose
Speaker:of Zeppelin and God I still hate needles. I'll
Speaker:have more to share about the journey as we go, but
Speaker:don't worry, this is not going to become a
Speaker:zepbound podcast. I'm going to continue to bust
Speaker:myths about food and medicine to make sense of the
Speaker:madness. If you want to find out more, you can
Speaker:read about it on the blog associated with
Speaker:YourDoctorsOrders.com or ForkU.com and I am the
Speaker:guy who researched and wrote this. I'm Dr. Terry
Speaker:Simpson. I'm a board certified doctor but I am not
Speaker:your doctor and before you make any changes to
Speaker:your diet or if you get on zepbound, find a real
Speaker:obesity physician like Dr. Albert or whomever. Dr.
Speaker:Dalcy is a great one also in Michigan. Find them
Speaker:and talk with them. All things audio are done by
Speaker:my friends at Simpler media and the pod God
Speaker:himself, Mr. Evo Terra. And by the way, while
Speaker:weight loss isn't the big thing here, the big
Speaker:thing is the medical changes that it has made By
Speaker:Hemoglobin is A1C has gone down. It was normal but
Speaker:it's better. My blood pressure is down. It was
Speaker:normal. It was better. Lots of things are down.
Speaker:They're normal but better. But the weight down is
Speaker:good, because if I were to die tomorrow, then Mr.
Speaker:Evo, Tara would probably be one of my pallbearers,
Speaker:and at least he would have less to work with. All
Speaker:right. Eat smarter, live better. Leave guilt out
Speaker:of the kitchen. This is Dr. Simpson. Have a good
Speaker:week. Hey, Evo. I know, uh, you may be a
Speaker:pallbearer, but I'm gonna make an ash out of
Speaker:myself and be cremated. I hope you're doing well,
Speaker:buddy. How do you like this for true confessions?
Speaker:Yeah, it's not every day you hear boomers being
Speaker:all vulnerable and stuff, but I'm proud of you,
Speaker:man. And also, while we're in the sharing mode, I,
Speaker:too, have been on the shot for, gosh, about a year
Speaker:now, doing much better. I love it this way.