Hello. Welcome to the What to Read Next podcast, the podcast that helps you topple your TBR. And today's episode has nothing to do with books. It's about the pop culture phenomenon of Traitors I've been watching Traitors since season two as one does. I watched the UK version, I watched the US version. I absolutely love this game. It's just a fun game of clue. It's not really serious. I used to play mafia, back in college. So it just brings me back to the college days. But I have to say, I've been a fan. It's a. It is appointment TV every Thursday night. I had to see it, I had to understand it. I had to recap, I had to look for memes and conversations. So this episode actually does have spoilers about season three. This episode was already, recorded on YouTube, so you can watch recap. available on my channel at What to Read Next so that's my YouTube channel. It'll be a link in the show notes if you wanna watch the video, but. Honestly, this episode is all about Traitor. We recap the season, the finale, the reunion, the specific, the strategy, what worked, what didn't work, what we love, what we don't love about the show. And so this is all about Traitors. Season three, it's a bonus episode. There'll be. Another book, recommendation episode released today. So don't worry if you're looking for book recommendations, they'll be there, but I figure it would be fun just to include some what to watch, what shows to watch. So I'll try to include a couple of those bonus episodes for you. I think an upcoming one will be about with Megan with love. We're watching now. We'll do a recap on YouTube on Tuesday. March 12th. so just be on the lookout for that. we'll do a recap for that, but that's coming to the pipeline. So if you have book to move your expectations, you would like me to recap and talk about them, and I'll have some guests. You're more than welcome to let me know in the comments, or you can just shoot me an email at laura@whattoreadnextblog.com all right, let's get to the episode. Oh, by the way, you're spoilers, so if you have not watched the season, if you need to know, especially if you have not watched the season finale, you have to skip this episode because we do talk with spoilers. We do talk about it. We talk about who wins. We talk about what are the losers and all the different things. So I just need to recap this again, dear. Our spoilers. so again, if you are looking for book recommendations, check any of our 700 plus episodes. There's plenty of book recommendations for you, but if you wanna talk about book pop culture, this episode's for you. All right, thank you.

Hi, hello. Hello everyone. We're talking about Traders, the finale, the reunion, the recap, the whole season three of Traders Us. We might come back and talk about UK because the season one, season three dropped yesterday, the whole season. But before we get to, we have, Victoria and I we're just, you know, we've been chatting about this show, so yes, we're just here to talk the things, share our feelings. I am fresh off of watching it. I watched it this morning, so like my reactions are just very fresh. I have to say though, full disclosure, before I watched the finale, I had to just turn on, uh, I just had to search online and find out like who won traders. Like I just had to know, and then I would just watch it to see how it unfolded. Yeah, well, I watched it last night live and I started watching. I watched it first like six minutes. And then I was like, I needed to know how this is gonna ravel. So I waited until the spoilers came out to then watch the rest of the season and watch reunion. So I slept too late. I went too much, way too late because I was like, I, I can't take this because you know, we have the competition and it's like filler. Like, I'm like, no, I wanna know. Round table. I wanna know, are they gonna vanish the trader? Is a trader gonna win? I wanna know what's gonna happen. So that's how I took this episode. It's so funny you should say that because truthfully, I really don't care about the missions. I can fast forward through the missions. What I wanna see is the conversations in the car to the mission. Yeah, the conversations after the mission. Yep. And then going into round table, the conversations in the morning at breakfast before they go on the mission. I just wanna hear the conversations and I think it just goes back to the fact of, I consider myself like a reality TV connoisseur, you know, cultural anthropologist, personality watch, uh, armchair psychologist. So I just wanna see the relationships and how everything shakes out. So it's not about the game so much, but I will admit as it was getting close to the end, my stomach was in knots and I just wanted to know, okay, who went home, who was safe? Okay, now I can watch because a lot of the people I was cheering for in the beginning we're gone. Yes, yes. Well, let's talk about the season before we get to the finale and we'll go to spoil end. Let's start with the season. So this season we had a whole set of new fresh traders. We got new housewares coming in that we were looking for. We got Dorinda, we got, we got. Robin, which we don't care about Robin, but Okay. And then we got Dolores. So we were like, we're got this, we got Sierra who was replacing Lindsay hubs 'cause there was some drama going on. Um, 'cause she was pregnant, um, at the time, so she couldn't join traders. And I really love Sierra to be in the show. Um, so that's a rival of like rival celebrities. But then we got Survivor, we got Big Brother, we got these gamers. Um, and then we have selling Sunset the BAM Bees. We got Rochelle. God bless her and Nikki Garcia. Uh, so we have like a new set of fresh, of like traders. We got some breakout hits, which we got the token, you know, random people. We got the token. British guy. Yes. This time was from the House of Lords. Last year was the house of Cummins. Yes. Or if you don't know your British government, there's different ties. This is actually part of the royal family. He's a cousin. Yes. Of Chin Charles. Um, and then we have, he's blood. Okay. He is blood, yes. So let's make that He didn't marry into anything. He is blood. Yeah. So we have that. Then we have. Um, we have Gabby from The Bachelor 'cause we got a token bachelor bachelorette, and I really love Gabby. I'm like, he got Pilot P last year. He cannot stand him. Um, and then we have. Sam Ari, who is Brittany's ex. We have D Efran. Who is Zach Efron's brother and who else we have Those are our token. And then we got to sandal, which we're like, Hmm, what are we, what are we feeling? We're Tom Sandal here, uh, because we both are season band prom reels. Rules, and we were invested in scandal wall. Yes. So it's like we're not like foreign. We had no idea who this man is. No, we know this man. We know this know meeting, this man, multiple relationships. For 10 years. We've known this man for 10 years. He's not a stranger to us. I will say. Clearly the reception to him from people who don't know him is very different. Yes. But we know this man. Yes. We, we, we know this man. We, we do not support this man's behavior. No, but I do wanna talk about the cast. I legit just Googled it and I think Wikipedia, source Wikipedia, yeah. Organized it in order of like how people were eliminated. So the first one was Dorinda. Yeah. Okay. Dorinda got away. My thoughts on Dorinda is I felt like we lost Dorinda too soon. Yeah. Um, I would've loved to seen her commentary. I would love to see her brain work. I'd love to see her go off the walls because we know Doda from Rural Housewives in New York. Yes. Durda is mental. Okay. So it would've been great TV and I felt like you were robbed. Yes, we were robbed. Like I, I think that was like the biggest shocker. And for a invested Breville housewife, historians that are us. Um, this is like, it's like, what are you doing? You're giving, you're, you're wasting good tv. And so in some ways the traders need to understand. We need people to make good tv. Mm-hmm. Which is dramatic. It's just messy. It is just like, what are we, what are we watching? That's what we want. We do not want someone who's like, I'm a strategist. I'm gonna try to win game. No, no. We want messy stuff. Exactly. Exactly. And then. In order. Now we have Wells Adams, who was on the Bachelorette. I don't do Bachelor Nation, so I don't know any of these Bachelorette people. I'm meeting them for the first time. So Wells was someone I met for the first time. Clearly was not invested in him. He was gone at the first banishment. So you know. Yeah, he was, I've seen him Bachelor Paradise. He serves as a bartender. He's like the, the ear. He's married to Sarah Highland, who is a modern family. I know Sarah Highland. Yeah. Um, she also, she was at one point, she was the host for Love Island. So she's involved in reality, he has done multiple reality TVs. Right. Um, but not in the peacock world that we have. Right? Typically, peacock Uni, NBC Universal, that we have watched. He's in the other channel. Okay. Then Chanel ion, another housewife was murdered again, at this point, I felt like obviously they were targeting housewives. I was not happy about it. Chanel Ayan. I do love her from Dubai. She's over the top. She's dramatic. She's allowed, but she's also funny and I kind of felt like I also lost out on amazing fashions because she's a model in real life. I. And all these designers want to dress her. So she would be pretty to look at. She would be very funny. It would be comic relief because she has no idea what she's doing. She doesn't even know where she is. Clueless, a hundred percent. So this was like another one where I felt like robbed, like really, really wrong. Yeah. And Chanel doesn't know any of these people because she's in Dubai. She's like not related to US market US tv. She has no idea who these people are. And I think it's like sometimes you need that clueless person, just like more Ibar who'd be like, I don't know who these people are. Like you need that clue. Like, oh, I get, you know, you who you are. Like I think at one point where they're asking Sam. Who's Brittany? Like a talk. I think Dorinda was asking Sam about his house, a his ex-wife, and she had no idea that his ex-wife's Britney Spears. So we just like, it's like the level, like these people are clueless about each other. We are, we are our invested. We know everything about them. We're parasocial. Relationships are on point a very big, and they're not. And so it's just, Chanel will have been so clueless about these people and people. Like what, what does mean the biggest looser, you were yelling at people to lose weight. Like you can't even run a mile. That is so funny. I know. It would be funny watching her trying to do the challenge. The next two I have, like, who left is Tony and Jeremy both from Survivor. Again, I'm, I'm not a survivor girly, so I don't know them. So it was just like, whatever, they're, they're gone. Yeah. Oh, we have to, we have to talk about the people who were added on late in that episode. We had dinner. Oh, that is coming. That is coming. We still, we also have Bob the drag queen, who is a very interesting character. I wanna talk about Bob, before we get to the Cage Boys, which is what we called that. Can we talk about Bob, first of all? Bob was serving fashions. I don't watch a drag queen. So again, I didn't know Bob from anywhere. Um, but the fashions were fashioning. Yeah. But he was very outspoken and I kind of felt like that would've made him a target. Anyway, I was neutral about Bob in the beginning, but then I felt like he was a housewife killer. Yes, that's, he had. He's like, I had no idea who you are. I'm like, sir. Alright, ma'am. Whatcha talking about like, no, the Housewives are, it's a, it's a cultural icon. Like these women are cultural icons, national treasures, protect at all costs. And he's out here murdering them and Dorinda make it nice. I'm not, well bitch. Thank you. Oh, cultural icons. Okay. The cage boys were, let me see. Wes, Derek and Rob? Yes. Okay. Rob is from Pensacola, Florida. Yeah, so I actually know this because these are old, old school from the S. So Wes was in real world, world rules. I think he was a real world. And then he went to challenge and he's been the longstanding challenge winner. He, I've seen him from his reality TV when he was not playing the challenge like that stuff. He's actually great in the house of villains. He retired from the challenge. There was like a lot of drama about this. Um, 'cause he was like, I don't have the mental stamina, I don't have the money to start investing all this time. So he went to House of Villains and then showed up in the traders. So Rob is, Wes is great in house of villains, which, which has Teresa, um, which is like a great show to watch. If you're down with traders. Go watch House of Villains. This is very campy, very fun. Um, Derek was a big brother. And he, he is a police officer. He's a, and so he hid that he was a police officer, well, his run and he ended up winning Big brother for that reason. Um, but if, you know, he's a police officer, so he is like nuanced. He understands like the dynamics of a gamer of how to do this. And then we have Rob who, Boston, Rob, who was Huddy in the, in the two thousands, uh, who lost a rival to his wife. 'cause that's kind of like a fun day, right? So he is a, he's a, he's a long cancer survivor. He's definitely like a schemer. He's a gamer. He's manipulative, and we saw him play the way he wanted to play. I think I can respect Boston, Rob for being who he is and just being authentically him. I have to confess, I was cheering for him in a weird way and I'm like, what is wrong with me? Yeah, you know what? He's charismatic. So kind of speaking of Boston, Rob, I love the bromance between Boston, Rob and Dylan, and I get Dylan being enamored with him. And the thing is, I didn't even watch him on television, so I can't even imagine what it would be like. Watching him on television and seeing him really operate, but seeing him operate on the show was very interesting. Derek was smart and I knew he was a threat. Wes was just a big a-hole. I knew they were gonna get out just because he's an A-hole. Yes. And his speech to get out, he was like, I hate you all and I have no idea who got guilt. Oh my God. I'm like, oh God bless you. You are just being an asshole. But you know what, it makes some interesting tv. So at the end of the day, you either own that, your villain or you just don't. Exactly. Then we had Kelle who, um, was on selling Sunset. We have Sierra Miller who was on Summer house, and then we have Carolyn from Survivor. So I'm not familiar with Carolyn. I know people who are familiar with her. It's forever. I'm not, she's definitely quirky. She definitely is a, that actually plays her game and stuff like that. Um, Elle, I remember I've been watching Sell and Sunset, not for the houses, not for the sales, not for her job, but for the fashion. But I love the season 'cause she was married to Justin Harley in Southern Sunset back in the day. Um, and he broke up with her and the, the whole divorce situation happened on camera and it was like, because she kept mentioning, it's like, my husband is Justin Harley, my husband is Justin Harley. This is when he wasn't, this is us. So it was really funny when he like leaves her and like goes a other way. Um, and just so, so, so, um, Krisha has like shown her character growth in selling Sunset. She then dated. One of the twins who's like a sch shorty, um, who owns the real estate office that she works at, and then she ended up meeting G Flip and they ended up getting married and then, then she came out as bisexual and all the fun stuff. But it's been a wonderful journey to watch Gelle go from, you know, former celebrity housewife to, to be like, I'm coming outta my own. I'm not engaging in this drama. And here we are. See, I dunno, Kelle, but I do know Ciara from Summer House and I was very excited to see Ciara. It was good to see her get so far. I wish she would've obviously gotten further. However, Carolyn, I gravitated to Carolyn. I don't want Survivor, so I don't know Carolyn from anywhere I. But I gravitated to Carolyn because from the second she was selected as a traitor, and she was in that turret with Danielle and Bob, the drag queen. This is even before Boston. Rob comes in the mix. I felt like they weren't listening to her. Mm-hmm. I truly felt that. So when she was saying like she didn't feel respected at the reunion, which is a whole separate thing we'll get into, I understood it because I felt like they really didn't take her seriously. They thought that she, she wasn't, you know. She was all over the place, which, yes, she's all over the place. But can I tell you something? When I was watching the show, her confessionals, like her side recordings on her feedback, I agreed with the, like everything she was saying, like she was saying like, we should be murdering this one. We should be murdering that one. Like I felt she actually had a better pulse on the game than anyone else, and I will die on the hill if Danielle hadn't put her name out there in the beginning. Mm-hmm. They could have forged it together to the end. Yeah. But Carolyn lost trust in Diana. So not only were you steamrolling, um, Carolyn in the beginning alongside Boston, Rob, I mean alongside Bob the drag queen. Then Boston Rob comes in and it's like every, you know, a lot of strong personalities against her. I felt like they weren't listening to her for real. I agreed with all her takes. And then Danielle did that thing. Danielle should not have put Carolyn's name out there. They would've been able to be good, which means Carolyn wouldn't have gone after her. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like maybe they would've gone after each other, but it would've been at like the final round table near the end, end, end, end. But it was wild. I was, I was sad 'cause I wanted protect Carolyn at all. Ha. I was like, I was rooting for Kalan to win the show. I was like, she needed to win a shell. Like I wanted a trader to win the shell. 'cause last season we have Faithful Who win the Shell. So I was like, I wanna, even though these traders were so messy, we, they had no fucking idea what they were doing. They're just like, what are we doing? What are we doing? And it was like, it was so messy and they were playing the game so badly. I was like, Carolyn actually knew what was going on. So she shoulda. Fake crying and like shaking to get too much. Danielle was doing too much. I'm sorry. She was doing too, too, too much. Speaking of which, hold on, let me go down the line. And is Danielle. So we had Sam, who was there. Sam was there and I felt was speaking up in the end. You know, I don't know him from Adam, but not much else to say. Tom Sandoval. We don't talk about Tom Sandoval. Moving on. We had Danielle, then we had Brittany, then we had Dolores. We have three more people, but. For those three women. I'm gonna say again, I didn't know Danielle from Adam. I didn't know Brittany from Adam. I knew Dolores, and again, housewife historian here. I. OG Real Housewives of New Jersey fan and Dolores disappointed me. But then again, it's like, I know, I don't know what it's like to be in a house with all these people and having all of these conversations and trying to trust people and play a game, but I was like, where is this Italian, um, loyalty, former correctional officer, just a human who's been on earth this long. Why was the law so wrong so many times? But you know what? It's actually been for a housewife. I'm thinking about this because we got Shera last season who was so clueless about what was going on, and she made it to the very last murder. So in some ways, for a housewife, you have to play dom and not really go with the flow, because if you think. Too smart, they're gonna kill you. So in some ways it benefited their game for being so wrong. Um, because she already last season was like, true. What are we, what we like? And the last day she was like, I think this is, like, this is like actually the issue. I'm like, she. We've been playing this for weeks. Weeks. Whatcha doing? You know what? You're right. You're probably right. But yeah, that was interesting. But can we talk about the Britney Danielle dynamic? I found that dynamic so interesting. It really is. It came front and center closer to the end. Like in the beginning, I wasn't really checking for them. Like I got the history lesson in the beginning. Mm-hmm. I didn't think, and this is my gut. For, I didn't think Danielle was gonna trust Brittany. I'm very surprised I wouldn't if, if she was crying, if Danielle was crying in the very first moment about how Brittany broke her heart and stabbed her in the back, then like it doesn't make sense to then put all your energy on that person. Yes. You were a same. History of you are in the Big Brother house and Brittany did a couple seasons and those different things, but it's still like, it's not, it doesn't make sense. Like Danielle should have like a hold on to somebody else, like Gabby or even Dolores, like she should have hold on to someone who has no history background that has stabbed you in the back. Because I'm like, isn't Maddie Angel tells you if someone shows you who they are, believe them like. But not pod Believe that, look, it's, it's not that difficult. You're not that desperate. There's plenty of people in the castle, not just Brady and I like Brady, but I, you know what I'm gonna do? I need to find out what is Danielle's sign, because I need to, I, I need some, I need some insight. Something that is gonna make sense because I don't understand. You do that to me one time. One time. I'm good on you. Like we can be cordial, but I'm good on you. Yes. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So nefarious. Oh, well there we go. Interesting. Okay. I'm just, I dunno. I'm done on you. I'm done on you. But. Brittany, again, I dunno anything about Brittany. I will say that Brittany's. You know, trying to take down Dylan at the end. I was like, girl, you are doing too much honey. And, and the way she was going around to everyone, I mean, the way she was going around to everyone, that enough to me was wrong and problematic. I understand the night before with the whole Danielle thing, I think it was smart her choosing Gabby for the SR dinner that was a hundred percent smart. Yeah. However, that round table was. Savage against Dylan and the way she went out, I was like, girl, I think she went too hard. I think when you're, and I don't know, like we're coaches on the sideline right now, like, you know, like Yeah. Having a Monday night chat. I think there's something to be said about not having to fight so hard for your life because it shows you, hey, you might have a problem because it puts a spotlight back on you. Mm-hmm. When you're just like. Teasing around, unless you're a good litigator, like Fedra was fade drop. But there's, it's a, it's an art. It's not, not everyone can be fedra. No, that's why I would get mad litigator. That's, you know, and so you have to be very mindful about like looking, you playing and it's like Brittany was like. Put the spotlight on herself. And the reality is like, you know, and even though they, like, they didn't even know anything. 'cause at the end of the game they're like, oh, we don't know. We're just gonna play around. We're dumb ass. Um, so it really was, yeah. Last three on the list is Dylan Iva and Gabby again. All three people I don't know from Adam. Yeah. So seeing them on our television screen was very interesting. I know Iva was a faithful of all Faithfuls. I thought they would've murdered him though. Yeah. The fact that he was still there. That was interesting, Dylan. Um, again, faithful of all faithfuls. But again, for real, what Brittany did at that end made it very questionable. Mm-hmm. And I'm very surprised they all chose to end the game. Yes. Based on the round table. I think they played a respectable game. And that's what I'm gonna say. I think this group, when it really got down to it, it's, it was just, they just wanted to play a respectable game and end it. I wouldn't ban, here's the thing, if you vote to banish. I'm gonna vote you out. 'cause I'm like, why do you wanna buy it? Well, I think it's, I think it was like, think about it and we should compare season two to season, season three. Okay. 'cause Faithfuls in this case, spoiler alert, faithful wins. So season two we have in the end fire, we have Cage, who is a trader. We have mj. So mj. Yeah. And then we have, and then we have, um, CT and Trelle, and they knew they needed to get out of Kate 'cause she was a traitor. So they got her out because she was, she made it very obvious. So she she made it obvious. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then, and then CT is like, sir, I know MJ is a faithful but. I don't wanna split the money in three. Yeah. Like, I don't wanna, like, it's a bulk of money. It's like, that's the whole point of make money. And these are the gamers. So they do another round and they do the same thing and they blame it. Like, oh, we didn't know you're faithful. That made it really interesting this game. They're like, okay, we're just gonna like, spend like less money. And you know, we didn't have anyone who's like, and, and Gabby said, it's like, I don't wanna be greedy. I'm like, girl. I just realized something. I just realized something. Let me double check just to verify. Yeah. Okay. I found it. None of these finalists were gamers. I. No. Everything you just said, it just dawned on me. Yeah. Everything you just said is 100% a gamer move. Yeah, and none of these folks were gamers, so they're like, look, honestly, this is already stressful enough. Check out. I don't care. I'll take whatever I get. You know, it's, it's, it might be a little over 50 grand. Then after taxes, I might get 40 grand. I don't care. Just get me outta here. Plus it was cold. It was cold in July or June. This was in June, was. Yeah, it record because Sierra went to summer house right after that. That's where Sierra, by the way, if you wanna watch Sierra activate it on Summer House. This is like, she just filmed it like a week later. She was in summer house telling Wes, like really reading him the riot, like it's a great experience. That for Sierra was a great growth experience for her because she found power, she found her voice, and then she's now a better reality. We starve because she was in traders. That is, I didn't realize it. I could. I could just tell. It's called, so I would also be team, let's end the game. Let's go. Yeah. Okay. I have a quick question though, so, okay. Spoiler territory. Yeah. Now we're really gonna talk about the end. We're gonna talk about the reunion and just all the things. Yeah. Okay. So getting back to the, the, the final thing. Okay. Let's get back to where the episode started. So the episode started with us seeing that Brittany voted Daniel out. Yeah, I saw that coming. By the way, Brittany was so dramatic about it. I was like, SIS, oops. I did it again. And then she had the nerve, the reunion, trying to like fight for her life. I'm like, whatcha fighting for your life for it is what it is. You did what you did. You know, and, and then Danielle is letting her know like, sis, that is it with me and you. Like, we can be cordial, but you know, there is no me and you again. I mean, it was odd to me that she was a bit surprised about that. So that was interesting. And like I said, the way she was going after Dylan was just like, you know, wow. Um, but I'm, you know, the way they chose to hide the identity. Of whether, um, Brittany was like a faithful or a traitor, like how did, what did you think about the decision to kind of add that dynamic to the game? I don't know, because it, I think maybe because they thought if they know she's a traitor, they're not gonna end the game. We're gonna have more management, we're gonna start doing more thing. And obviously these, they assume these are not gamers, so they're not gonna manage unless they have to. So we're gonna make sure that they have like that sense, that seed of fear. But they still under the game. Yeah, that is true. If it were game gamers, if if it were gamers, it would be different. I like that they tried to do new things. I like the C Power though. The C power. I thought that was like the best addition. Yes. But we need to give it to an actual faithful traitor. But I think it was great that they gave it to her trader because she won. She won, and then she was able to like say, you know, obviously scheme it around it and stuff like that. So yeah, I think the Sierra power is good. I think that the freshen of the, the last challenge, it was like, it was a little bit boring, but you know, the, the, the air, the helicopter was fine. I, I could not care less about the scavenger H and like the boat and like flying. I was like, no, keep it simple. Keep it gear, you know, I don't really care about these things. I like the carpet. I was like, oh, that is so sweet. 'cause once upon a time I was into cars, I'm not so much girl. Yes. But I thought that was sweet. I will say. What I missed, what I would've loved was to see them all go back into the castle and just get a little bit more of like their chatter. Especially when they found out that Brittany was a traitor. Yeah. I would've loved more like conversation near the end. Yeah. Like just getting more of the conversation. 'cause that's what's interesting. I don't care. Again, we both don't care about the challenges there. That's the, that's the time. Well, you can go scroll on social media and get opinions and get the take on like the water cooler moment, but I really couldn't care less about the challenges, but it was fine and they got money and it was fine. Um, I'm here for the game of Mafia, which I used to play back in college. This is a GoTo drinking game that we used to play. All the time. I went to college before social media, so there's no photographic evidence. None. I'm kind of happy, you know, we don't have like all that high school uni photographic stuff. No. Um, reunion real quick, my gosh. Sorry. Let's talk about Reunion. Yes. Um, Dorinda was salty. These are my hotcakes. I love the fact that they brought out the winners first and they had that conversation. Then they brought out the traitors, which by the way, Bob, the drab queen coming out. Fabulous. Fabulous. Danielle. Looks amazing. Look, I will give everyone credit. Everyone cleans up Good. Including Boston. Rob, who got we? Rob was like barely bring it, but he was like, fine. He was fine. He looked good. Everyone looked good. I will say I loved Ion's dress. Obviously Ion was gonna bring the fashions. Bob, the drag queen was gonna bring the fashions. Bob h brought the fashions. Everyone. Danielle, um, Dolores, they all looked fabulous. I could tell Dorinda was salty. Yeah. Chanel ion, you know, had her little takes. Um, it was nice kind of seeing them together. Um, I don't really have much except the one standout thing from the reunion was the Oscar awards for best performance in the castle that took me out and. I love the replays and I was like, if Danielle has to win that Danielle, Danielle was like her care category all the fucking time. It was like even just the curse where all the fucking time, like it was not like, it was just like one time like everyone else had like one moment. No. Like know. She was like her was shaking. Her, we reenacted this on Substack, so you can look at what she felt. Yeah, and she, she called, I called, I did a whole, I told you, I gave you the information. Yes. That one. That won an award. No, that was just, that was it. I mean, the reunion was fine. I think what is more interesting everyone is the fact that this is how diabolical NBC Universal is. So they ended us in a cliffhanger last week, which I thought was just cruel and unkind. But this is again, another unkind punishment, but in a good way. Last week was in a bad way. This week is good because we got the traders finale, we've got the reunion and we got the UK version. Oh my God. I started watching it because I needed to spend time before traders finale traders finale was gonna star. So we have an investigator, a financial investigator. 'cause I love my civil white collar crime investigator. We got a priest. A priest. We got, we, they're, they're savage from the train ride because I love UK is a little bit different. They all have to meet in the train station and they take a train together to the council. And so like the cars and stuff, like, no, we got the train ride and they're savage from the. Wow. So I, it's like, they're like, it's just on, and the, the traders are like coming in and they're, I think these traders, based on the first 25 minutes, they're gonna be messy. Oh, we have a, we have a sister. We have sisters in this industry. Actually, they know their sisters. We don't. 'cause in the previous season they actually, there wasn't, we had a mother, God, mother, son, son, and they actually did not disclose that information here. They disclosed that. So that is super interesting. I think. I like that, that they, the UK version they always come in with like someone who is related to someone. Mm-hmm. I could appreciate that. I don't know why. I think it just, it adds this dynamic which the Americans haven't replicated, so I find that very interesting. Yeah, I love the UK version 'cause I had like a lot of regular people. I just found a UK picture, so I just put that up. The UK doesn't put lots of celebrities in there, but. I am just excited to see this crew. Mm-hmm. I think it's gonna be fun. I love the UK versions. I wonder if they dropped the New Zealand, but, uh, I don't know. New, see, no, I don't think new, new season for New Zealand, but there's Australia, there's New Zealand, and then we have this, we have UK so. Wow. So that's the diabolical of NBCUniversal. We have lots to look forward to. We have all the seasons of UK and we'll probably talk about it over on, um, Substack. Mm-hmm. So, you know, you can get the weekly, uh, feedback on what we're thinking. Yeah. But I definitely recommend the UK even though I haven't started watching it yet, just because it's always a vibe. It's always a vibe. Yeah. So our, we can watch is we watching Traders UK season three. And if you haven't watched your previous seasons, you can also watch one, two, and three. Um, FYI, one of the winners from I think season one, season two from Traders UK shows up in Long Island. And then you can download, you can mention him that, and he's not good in that season, so it's an interesting season. He, he cheats on the girl and costs on more. So it's a lovely time. Oh yeah. Um, so you have like enough we can watch list. But we'll be back on Tuesday, on Thursday at 12:00 PM Easter standard time or 9:00 AM PST or other times. Um, we're gonna go back and we're gonna talk about, what are we talking about this week? I don't know. We are gonna talk about, um, what is February Irish Irish book set, Ireland St. Patrick's Day. 'cause we gotta get ready for St. Patrick's Day. So we have book recommendations coming in on Thursday, 12:00 PM. You can also catch us in Substack. You can find us in Substack. Um, basically, yeah, that's it. So thank you so much for listening. Bye.