So for real ass players talk about real ass things. My name is Cornell and I'm going to be hosting today. I'm Chris. I'm Cole. I'm Tuan. I'm Junior. I'm Jehan. I'm JT. So, Jehan, where you come from? South side, North side, Minneapolis. Okay, okay. I was born in the south, St. Paul. Oh, my bad. I was supposed to return to ask the question. I mean, you could if you want. where y'all from? Where everybody from from here? North. North south St. Paul? I'm from south, though. South Minneapolis. Ain't nothing wrong with being from the birds, bro. You know what I'm saying? So what's the direction for this podcast today? What's the, topic of discussion? Well, since you, like, are a guest, you gotta tell us about yourself. Oh. Do y'all got questions ready or I just gotta freestyle, like? Nah, we got questions. Alright, let me know something. Alright. Ask away. So, it's a random question, but why'd you choose to dye your hair brown? Cause I ain't wanna do, like, blonde, I didn't want to do white, I didn't want to do red. And, it was just like a test run. I just wanted to do something different, I was like, fuck it. I can cuss on here, right? Yeah. I was like, fuck it, like, But, Everybody heard this before, I just got inspired by X. Like to do the half and half shit, but it really means something for real. It's not just like dying your hair. It's just like a split Is that gonna be a part of this? I did not cosign that sound, but it's all good But it's like it's like half good half evil. Half good half evil positive, negative, everybody got the balance. So that's what that mean. So that's why I did that. I just picked brown just to not do no crazy shit right away. Cause I was going to do gray, but I didn't do it yet. I should've did a balance because mine's mostly red. And it's not really balanced for him. What you saying mostly red? That shit like two different colors. It's like orange and red now. Yeah. Burgundy almost. I got a question. What's popping? What made you want to become an artist? I don't know, since I was a kid it's just been that. It's not like I wanted to become one. But I did make that final decision when I was like, like graduating high school. Like before I had like senior year I was like, fuck it, I'm gonna do it. But like Travis Scott went on like a crazy ass run. And like, when I seen him go on his crazy run, I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. Cause he did it the right way. But like, I've been on this shit. It's just, I made that decision as a man, Senior year of high school, As a man, you gotta make a decision. And then, from then on, that's when it's, Yo, everyday, wake up, Think about it, dream about it, Plan about it. So, yeah, That's what it's been. Yeah. So if we talk about, like, the music Travis produced, What's your top three? Top three, what, like, Albums? Yeah. Shit, I don't have a top three. I can put my top three, Not in order, like Astro, Astroworld up there, Birds, Birds in a Trap, St. Mignite, and then I'd say His new shit was cool, his new shit was cool, his new shit was cool, but I, I don't know. I wanna say, I wanna say Al Faro, or Days Before. There's some old SoundCloud, like, old shit, real niggas know. Travis is such a big inspiration. What's some other artists that you see as an inspiration? Michael Jackson, nigga. Kendrick, Michael. Kanye. I fuck Roddy Ricch. Young Thug. Cardi. ASAP Rocky. Mike. J. Cole. Basically all the people who really, Put pen to the pad and real artist. I just, real, any real artist can inspire me, but top of the top Michael Jackson for sure. Like, that nigga, like, he's him. Like, him. For real. He's him. Respectful. So, I know it's a lot of debates on Kendrick and Drake. I want to, like, go through this whole table and, like, K Dot. Ask y'all, y'all outputs and inputs on that. You said what? K Dot. K Dot. Kung Fu Kenny. Alright, so what's, uh, Grinnell, I want to ask you your input on. Who do you think is winning, or how do you think Drake is going to come back? You know, just everything, just everything. Winning? Yeah, he winning alright. Who? It's Kendrick. It's Kendrick, bro. They don't even need to know the name. Yes, it's Kendrick. Alright, what do you think, Chris? Drake a pedophile. Tell him. What? That's all I got to say. Drake a pedophile. There's no competition, that's it. Oh, JT, that's a serious accusation. Very serious. Like, I don't think you should take that lightly if you're gonna say that because that's a life changing accusation. If somebody just walked in here and said, I'm a pedophile, like my life would probably change forever. So you gotta. Yeah, like what's your reason? I'm just saying. What's your reasoning? My reasoning? He gave dating advice to a 16 year old. There's more, there's more, there's more. It's bad, but you just gotta look into it. He's done some fucked up shit. Not, not some no bias shit, cause I know Kendrick, he got his own shit going on, but like, Drake does overall a good job. Fucked up, nigga. Do you know Drake? No, he doesn't know Drake. Hell no. I ain't gonna lie though, Kendrick said it. There's some truth to it, you can't even lie. Kendrick doesn't. Cause Kendrick don't give a fuck about nothing to say about another man for real. If it's not true. That's just not his character. So, Drake has a daughter? Nah. Didn't Kendrick say that? Nope. They, they say he didn't, they say, it's all speculation at the day, we don't know this shit. Right, which I think is rap battle strategy. It's kinda like, I'ma say this, and if it's not true, who cares, cause it's gonna make people hesitate and think about it. Which, I agree with the strategy, in a way. Well basically, so what Drake did, he he tried like baiting Kendrick into believing that he had a daughter somehow. And that was kinda just in my opinion, that's just Some weird they're kind of their whole like team is just like moving weird and stuff It's I mean Kendrick Kendrick going for more like lethal shots. He's like He's saying a lot but it's I don't even know I don't really know what Drake is saying. But JT you you listen to Drake and Yeah, I listen to both of them, but you listen to Drake's like new stuff like his new dizzies? Yeah. What, what do you say on those? that was like, Um, well the last one he was like basically dissecting the battle itself and like his strategy and Kendrick's strategy and stuff so I was like impressed with that But I do say like I personally think I like Drake as an artist way better, but I'm also like really objective So I think Kendrick clearly is winning I think the best feel like the battles over like I get the vibe that is over But I think Kendrick won for sure based on, I think they just, he just had a better overall strategy of the type of songs he made. and it was, I think Drake was trying to be Mr. Serious Rapper a little too much. And Kendrick had comedy, which always wins when you trying to like, Roast somebody or have an argument the person who infuses comedy into it usually is the one that people end up agreeing with so he used that as a tool But yeah, I also the overall songs more I think from Kendrick It sounds like you were playing at Drake had a chance He had no chance of winning this. Bluntly, bluntly, bro, bluntly, bro. There's no way Drake can ever be a better MC or nothing than Kendrick Lamar ever. What do you mean? MC? So what does that mean? At the end of the day, this is a rap battle, bro. Like a rap battle. There's no way Drake can out rap or be a better rapper than Kendrick Lamar, bro. If he really put it in front of our face, what it is, there's no, he was going to win that. Also, Drake has so many people. He had Rick Ross, you know Miles dissed him. Um, Who the fuck is Miles? You don't know who you know Miles is? But who is he? Oh, I'm just saying, he has so many people against him, That's a lot of people. It's the 20v1 bar was actually real life. It's just a lot of people. Yeah, that was cool, but that's what happens, I mean, one, Drake is like, At the top as far as the most didn't he he's the most streamed spotify artist of all time and he's about to get He's closing in on a hundred billion, which is like or it's a hundred billion some crazy number. But anyway he also is like That's why I've always been impressed with Drake because Drake is also pretty corny The music is good enough to kind of because if a lot of people did this shit Drake did I feel like they would Be down bad but he's able just because his music from a Broad spectrum let me entertain as much people as possible is like undeniable Well, I kind of what so let's look into like if he's down bad if it was anybody else it would be down bad Why don't we look at so why it's down bad than for anybody else And why it's better for him. Well, I mean, how is he Down bad would mean, nobody's gonna, listen to you or stuff. he's not down bad because he's got more strings and more money than any artist in the game. Which, you can argue, that's not always, the what means everything, you know what I'm saying? So it just depends on what you value and what you think. I kind of agree with Jahan in that, like MC, like as a rapper, rapper, but then you could also, I would argue that. I think I like Drake as an artist more because I think I like Drake's melodies and compositions better. We're getting into personal preference. Kendrick, he did say, he did say, I like Drake for the melodies, I don't like him when he actin tough. Yeah, which was a pretty good. That's his whole persona, I feel like. That pop star. I still don't think it's not like, it doesn't seem off place when Drake is like, rapping though. Like, he's a good rapper. Yeah. And we're literally talking about the best. Like the top, the top three is a real thing. The top three is who's competing with who's competing with Historically, like Jay Z and Kanye, cause they're like the go to the shit, and then there's still a generation that hasn't like solidified their story, which is Drake, Kendrick, and J. Cole. And everyone else is under them, no matter what metric you decide to go for. Who you put on your top three pedestal? Of all time? Rap artists? Just rap artists my favorite my object my favorite or Like objectively like it's subjectively is like this is who I list to or like objectively subjectively subjectively is Kanye West J Cole and Drake objectively, I think it's Jay z Kanye West and I don't fully have an answer for that yet All I can say is Kendrick right now. Um, it's Kendrick bro, not gonna lie, Kendrick. He's, there's no top three, just him. What about Chris Brown? Chris Brown is one of the greatest artists of all time. I'll say that. Did you hear his diss? Yeah. Chris Brown is one of the greatest artists of all time. Like he's, like for me versatility is what makes you great and he can do anything. Like anything. And he can do it at a decent level. He's better than a lot of rappers who come out today at rapping. He's a singer. Right. Don't even make sense for real to them. Yeah, Bill's actually nice. He can act, rap, sing, dance,, draw. Play basketball. His graffiti's crazy. His whole crib is like graffitied up. Not with what we just said as far as graffiti and stuff. And also, I, I think Usher's acted, but I would probably think Chris Brown's a little bit more, in the acting role or whatever, but. Yeah. Aw, facts. What is Chris Brown in, what is he, like? A bunch of black movies, like Black Road movies. This Christmas, he's in Stomp the Yard. Stomp the Yard, yeah. He played one of the biggest roles in that shit. Mostly one of the biggest roles. But he just did die. 20 seconds in the movie. That's good. That's facts. That's facts. Speaking on rapper, rappers turn to actors. Do you think you'd ever see yourself going into acting? Yeah. Yeah. As long as I don't gotta jump through no hoops. That's something I don't do. You gotta do a lot of jumping through hoops to like get in certain places, so. Yeah, be under the system type stuff? Things of that nature. I'm just not gonna do that kind of stuff to be in a movie. I'd rather stay at home and do my own thing. You could just be you, though. No, I'm saying like, it's just like business shit. You, it's like being a model. they want someone who's like robotic. Right. I can't be robotic. As soon as you're not yourself. Yeah, they can't, they can't make me do something I don't want to do. So that's all I'm saying. I'm just not going to go against my character to do something. But yeah, if it's something that's something I want to do, yeah, I'm down. I'm down for all that. I'm with all the creativity and shit. I'll try to be making couches. I'm not going to lie. I'll be making couches, swords. I'll be making, shit, glasses. Shit, whatever. Whatever comes to my head and I feel like doing, I'm going to do all that. Fuck it. I got how many years here? Yeah, I'm going to get it busted while I'm here. That's all I know. Facts. What do you think about, the younger generation of rappers? Like Man, y'all ass Y'all standards too fucking low. Dang. And I, and I, I, I blame my generation. Well, I'm y'all generation too. I'm not that much older than y'all. How old are you? I'm only 21. I just turned 21, so I was just 20. Yeah, the generation thing is weird, so they're like Is anyone here 17 or are y'all 16? I turned 17. So 17, so they're four years. is the You could consider you're maybe a generation or a half generation ahead of them? I'm basically just like in college and they're just in high school. It's not that far apart, like for real. And then I know some young niggas who like ahead of them ahead of their time mentally So they're really older than they age for it, too. So it's all subjective what you want to gauge your age, but I Think the standard is too low period and then y'all just getting what's been served bro. Like as in like Damn, it's a lot. I could go all day about this. The standards are low, but that's because a lot of y'all don't do y'all homework, and y'all standards are low too. But that's also our fault, and our OG's fault, who been like serving some bullshit food at lunch, like. So y'all just eating this shit up and then regurgitating it. And then, whoever come up under y'all, they can do the same shit and it's gonna get worse and worse and worse. Until niggas get back genuine with the music and actually make shit that sound good and feel good and they talking about something. But a lot of this music nowadays, bro, y'all not talking about shit, bro. Y'all not saying shit. y'all say Kool Aid on the wall. I just kicked a nigga and that bad bitch sucked my dick yesterday., that's pretty much it. And then it's on a nice ass beat. So y'all just doing this. ooh. So it's bro, like, This is just stupid. It just rots your brain, bro. And I don't like stupid shit. That shit's dumb. So it's a whole bunch of crashed out young niggas out here now doing stupid shit, thinking they're cool. That shit ain't cool. That's what I think. Shady Kia and stuff. I only asked you that question because I recently was on TikTok and I heard this little man from Detroit. He's like, I am Lil Yungin or something and he sound like Tee Grizzley. I don't know if, I don't know if he could play songs or not, but We could later. I mean, after the fact. But you said his name is Lil Yungin and he sound like Tee Grizzley? Yeah, he, yeah. He's from Detroit. Supposedly. I don't know. I didn't do my research, but I've just seen them on TikTok. I got a relevant question, I think. Since we're talking about like, Big 3 and Big Me's and stuff like that. so, for the longest time, the Big 3, right? Kendrick, Drake, J. Cole, and maybe the generation above them. You could, like, Jay Z, Kanye, Lil Wayne, stuff like that. But who is the Big 3? Like underneath them, cause that's what, like since I've been around, in, I mean I've been around for a minute, but I'm saying like I remember early 2010, just like when, and you were a kid too, but you probably were aware of it, Drake, J. Cole, Kendrick like separated themselves and, and then it's been them on top for a while but if you ask a 13 year old, like I know if I, like Juice, like when I ask him, Lil Durk is the greatest rapper of all time to him. I'm not gonna lie, there is no Big 3 no more. Because what we gauged our Big 3's on, they don't gauge it on the same shit. So they gauge their Big 3's on clout and money. And shit like that. So, that's why people say Drake, or some people say Cardi, or some people say like, Some people say King Carson. It's worth discussing though. So even though it's a different Metric of how they're gauging it like you just said but who is though if you ask I guess I could ask y'all who is the cuz I don't know if you guys still like look at J Cole Drake and Kendrick is like your generation. Are they like old heads to you? Not all heads, but like, they're not, I don't count them. I wouldn't say they're, they could be part of my big three. Right. I don't think, And then also, not taking, you guys, don't be like, my favorite rapper is in my big three. if, that's cool if you have a favorite rapper, but who are like, the most impactful that are part of the new generation? I could, Lil Durk to me, I like, noticed, even though I can't relate to his music or anything, I noticed, okay, people really like him, and he's made a huge impact, numbers wise, and, and, you know, And stuff like that, but who else are artists like that from y'all perspective? So I'm gonna go Dolph keith This kind of this kind of bias i'm not gonna lie but like for If they're contribute their the way what they've contributed to their state's like Reputation and how they've blown up chief keith really opened up the drill scene for chicago Dolph with the whole trap shit. He made, he wasn't, he ain't starting the trap shit of course, but like he really got it jumping to the point where it started Evolutionizing and getting bigger and everyone just started pushing on to it and stuff like that. So like I say those two then I don't know. You gotta come back to me for a third one, I'm not gonna lie. But you see what I'm saying? No, there's no like real like Another person I've Gage. Yeah. That the Gage is so different, Drill is just Drill. Another person I've noticed, NBA Youngboy. He's obviously got reach. I don't know what the general consensus is, but, he's I mean, like Tremendously. For rappers, under, 30, I would say, the biggest for, our generation would be, Wait, no, it's yeah, Travis is definitely Yeah, I I And then Cardi, and then Youngboy, and then Cause Youngboy is still He's probably the youngest out of the three, but I mean, People could say like, Future, cause he's kinda like He's started to blow up I don't even know, but he's like old. Yeah, cause Chris is definitely 40 something, but is Travis? Travis is like 31. Yeah, but still, it's like a good gauge. I mean Kendrick like, Kendrick like old too. It's also, you think is there younger artists making, Like for a while I thought, Kordae, you know what I'm talking about, YBN Kordae. I'm like, Oh, he's like interesting. Like he's kind of making Oh yeah, that's a good one too. Bro, Kordae, that's interesting you bring that up. I'm not gonna lie. Cause like, I was really on to Kordae for a minute and I had hopes for him to get bigger. I mean it's just, the thing with him, niggas just be, they just be hating on it. I don't know why, he's a, He's a philosophical rapper, I guess. Air quote, air quote. That's why niggas don't listen to him. I mean, it's kind of corny, but I don't know. You said, like, people think he's corny? People think he's corny, he's corny. Ain't that crazy? Like, just from my observation, it's like somebody that's not dedicating most of their content to negative shi murder, or, or just money, illegal money, drugs, is considered corny. Which is true, but is interesting. Cornel, you got, I, every time I feel like I look at you, you're like about to say something. Because, and, because like, whenever I'm talking, we switch the subject. Oh, go ahead. I was thinking about the last subject still. What was that? Some of the last subjects. What was the last subject? you can also do this. It was about, young boy. the impact on the rap culture. young boy. I feel like, all rappers, he probably did it. The words, even adults, teenagers, kids, he just makes everybody you feel what I'm saying though? He makes everybody what? Like finish the, the verb or, or whatever, adjective. He makes everybody what? Pay attention? No, like, the vibe he gives everybody, like the turn up, the demon, all that shit, I know what he's saying. A lot of people got that from listening to him. He changed a lot of people's mindsets, all types of shit. That's how that shit go, that's what music is, bro. People think this shit is just, no, this shit is a real thing. You get affected by what you listen to every day. So, it's like amp music and music to go make you want to slide on the up? Yeah. You turn on some drill shit, you feel like doing some shit you would not normally do. You turn on some jazz, you feel like chilling. You turn on some dance music, you feel like dancing. It's, bro, it's all a feeling. Drill's alright. Drill's alright. I get what you're saying. Yeah. I don't know. I was confused. Youngboy has an impact in like the rap culture. There's a video I just showed Chris. There's a baby crying. There's a baby crying but when he turned on Youngboy he stopped crying. It's kinda weird. That's how a lot of people is. They're just in tune to Youngboy. Like even when he put the stunt with the polished nails, people were still like listening to him. I wasn't calling him different or anything. Would you pinch on Nels? No, I wouldn't. Would y'all pinch on Nels? Nah, for real. Why would you ask? But would you pinch on Nels? Nah. I'm asking y'all, like would y'all pinch on Nels? Nah, but we speaking on that now, the feminization of rappers. What y'all think, what y'all think the, everybody answer the question I guess. Cole, you putting on nail polish? No. Jordan nail polish nigga. Remember this day it was May 8th. Cole said No. Okay. Cole said no. All right. Let's remember Cornell nail polish. No thanks. No days JT nail polish. No, but that's just, I would, I like, I don't even like when people like draw my skin. Like I just, so, but like that in middle school? No, not even like girls. Like I just couldn't. Do it, but I think I see what Jahan's getting at is like No, you said you said you said remember this day because I feel like it was a low key prediction that, I think nail polish is gonna be a little bit more, accepted. I've noticed that, like, seeing dudes paint their nails more and more, and it's weird to me, and I would never do that, but I think it seems like it's getting more and more accepted from opposed to ten years ago or whatever. They pushin agendas and y'all the targets, so it be on point. Yeah, you avoiding the question though. Me? Yes. Would I do it? No. Okay, okay, okay. But like I was saying, what y'all think is causing like the feminization of all these rappers? Like, even Drake, he came out with the hairstyle and he had his painted nails. Like, what y'all think is not causing that, but like Like, why is it happening? Why is it just, I don't know. Because like, when you have, just imagine like a whole bunch of men being emotional, bro. It's bad, bro. As soon as I step on someone's shoes, As soon as I look at someone a little too long, bro, it's popping off, popping off. They want, this, and I mean they, the people who control like what's on the news, the people who control like the artists, the people putting out the shows, the movies, all that shit. They want the state of the world to be chaotic because they profit off it. If we got a whole bunch of bad food in neighborhoods, Hospitals are, are more lucrative. If we got, a whole, you know what I'm saying? Like if we have a whole bunch of bullshit music playing people ears and make them go slide and drill and kill a nigga, our prisons are going to be more lucrative. Like, you know, they make literally that nigga is a problem. I'm not gonna lie. I heard this shit. I was like, that shit crazy. Like it sound good. If you like, if you listen, but it's bro, that shit's crazy, bro. But You gotta do the research on how much prisons get paid and people get paid from just having one inmate there, bro. It's almost like ten bins per person, bro. Like, that's why when I went in there, bro, I was like, bro, I'm not going back, because they made a fortune off me, and I had to pay court fees. Shit's stupid. So, they just trying to have everybody act crazy. That's it. Also, even Taking it a step further, on even more of a macro level, America, companies in America sell missiles and war tools, you know? Like guns, all that stuff, ammunition, to people we're at war with. So it's all just a business. And, like, Essentially it's human nature for people in power to stay in power in these other ways so it's tough to get out of that because when you're in power you have more advantage, but Yes, they just want to demasculine everything, bro Everything they just want a whole bunch of 65 motherfuckers walking around, bro That's it because it's easier to control a person if they have no control they so Well, this is the end of episode four. My name's Cornel. I'm saying bye. Peace. Peace. Peace. Thanks, y'all.