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- [Travis] In all fairness,

you know that people in cigar shops

and if, if you're just getting into cigars,

if you're new to cigars, don't be intimidated.

Walk into a shop, ask questions,

but learn some of the stuff

that we were trying to teach through this episode

is really, what's the experience?

How can you develop and build that?

Well, part of that is the characters

you get to hang out with.

- [Nate] Yeah.

- [Travis] I can go into any shop.

I don't know anybody.

You sit down long enough,

you just ask these guys and be open.

- [Nate] Mm-hm.

- They're not gonna make you feel bad for being

a new- a novice smoker. - [Nate] Not at all.

They're actually gonna encourage you

because it's a hobby.

We all love people who are enjoying things that we do.

- [Nate] Yeah.

- So you talked about that umpire,

you had that direct tie because it's something

you both love. - [Nate] Yeah.

- [Rob] Yeah. - It's that hobby you both

like. - [Nate] Yeah.

- So it, it's a small little family

that we, we've created

even though we don't know.

- [Nate] Yeah.

- [Travis] I mean we were with 25 people last night

talking about cigars.

Didn't know any of them,

but I feel I can call any of them tonight

and say, "Hey you wanna go out and have a cigar?"

- [Nate] Yeah.

You know, and hang out.

- Right. - Yeah.

- And it's, - But we'd all hang

out together.

- [Nate] It's so much fun

If you're a, if we can use the word, you know

seasoned cigar smoker or longtime cigar smoker,

when you, I find it absolutely entertaining and engaging

and it makes me kind of come alive

when you get that new smoker

because they're asking all these great questions

that you don't think about much anymore.

And you go, "All right,

well why do I still think that that's the case?"

- [Rob] Right.

- [Nate] Or you can kind of talk about it and go, "Oh,

maybe I think a little differently now."

Or, you know, how are you experiencing this?

So it brings to, uh, to your experience now,

a completely different field of view.

- [Rob] Right. - [Nate] I love that.

- [Rob] I stopped asking questions specifically of like

what you're tasting because you know,

I don't, I have no idea.

Like, I asked one guy who, at the smoke shop who was like,

"I just love this cigar."

I'm like, "Well what do you like about it?"

He's like, I don't know, I just like it.

- [Nate] Mm-hm.

- [Rob] And now I just thought, I'm like,

last night I had some people over

and they wanted to smoke cigars.

They're not big time cigar smokers.

I'm like, would you smoke it again?

He's like, "Well, I just don't know.

I'm not a cigar smoker."

"Do you like the flavor that's coming of it?"

"Well I guess, yeah, it's pretty good."

"Would you go buy it again?"

"I don't know."

Like it was really hard for him to like-

- [Nate] Yeah.

- [Rob] to really figure it out.

And I'm like, that's interesting as a new cigar smoker.

- [Nate] Sure. - [Rob] Like what cigar is it

that's gonna make you go, "Oh yeah, I want this again."

That's just what I want to give you.

- [Nate] Right.

- [Rob] I don't want to give you

a cigar that I'm like, "This has this flavor."

- [Nate] Yeah.- "And you should like it."

- [Nate] Mm-hm. - [Rob] No,

I just want you to try it

and if you go, "Yeah, I really like it."

Great. - [Nate] Yeah.

- Go buy that cigar.

- [Nate] Yeah. - [Rob] Go buy more of it.

Go enjoy more cigars that are like that.

- [Nate] Yep.

- [Rob] That's all I care about.

- [Travis] And he may have not smoked enough to really say,

"Is this one I like?"

Because he hasn't compared, - [Rob] No, he hasn't.

- [Travis] spectrums.

Right? - It's, it's, it's

- [Rob] So it's like, you know, literally like tasting

maybe one or two. - [Nate] Yeah.

- [Travis] You drive the first car that you've ever driven,

it's the only one you know.

How do you know if it's the one you like?

Because you haven't got to drive,

- [Rob] Right. - some of the others.

- [Nate] Yeah. - And that might be