today I'm going to talk about adrenal fatigue in business owners adrenal
Vesna:fatigue, or feeling like you're burnt out, or in functional freeze, or you know
Vesna:that you're in adrenal fatigue, these are all nervous system responses, and
Vesna:they're all on the way to burnout right?
Vesna:So there's different stages, and the end stage is feeling completely
Vesna:burnt out, where it's virtually impossible to even work anymore.
Vesna:Adrenal Fatigue So the symptoms look like feeling tired, but wired, right?
Vesna:So anxious and on edge and urgent and under pressure.
Vesna:Feeling that sense of urgency every day as soon as you wake up in the morning.
Vesna:There's always something that's kind of urgent, right?
Vesna:Feeling anxious, I've had clients that you know, can't get past 2pm because their
Vesna:anxiety builds up to a certain level.
Vesna:And they just cannot work after that.
Vesna:Or, you're so tired that by the time that you hit 3pm, you can no
Vesna:longer work because you're exhausted.
Vesna:You can be irritable with your partner, with your customers, with your kids.
Vesna:You can be not loving your work or your business anymore.
Vesna:So really losing that passion for what you're doing.
Vesna:And, you know, I've had clients that, you know, they're monitoring
Vesna:everything they do in terms of even the time that they spend with kids
Vesna:and watching their sports games.
Vesna:They're looking at their clock because they just want to go home and lay down.
Vesna:They just want to go home and go to bed.
Vesna:So that real.
Vesna:Tiredness, but still being able to complete tasks.
Vesna:But obviously when we get to burnout, we're not able to
Vesna:complete our tasks anymore.
Vesna:Now I want to talk about this because it's something that I see so often.
Vesna:So, a lot of business owners or women in leadership, they are aware
Vesna:that they are in this position and they want to change it.
Vesna:They know that they can do much better in their work and their personal
Vesna:lives without having this adrenal fatigue, without having these symptoms.
Vesna:But a lot of people are not even aware that they're in this right?
Vesna:And so they think it's part of their job, part of the business because
Vesna:they're getting older because they're a mother with kids, whatever it is.
Vesna:But it's all these things that you have on your to do list, it
Vesna:feels like those are the reasons why you feel the way that you do.
Vesna:And it may have absolutely nothing to do with that, right?
Vesna:It's really about how our body is able to produce energy respond to
Vesna:stress, and complete everything that we need on an ongoing basis.
Vesna:So, our body, the more we do, the more we can do, right?
Vesna:So the more energy we expend, the more we create.
Vesna:It's just a natural process in our mitochondria, which is the
Vesna:cells that produce our energy.
Vesna:The more that we do, the more mitochondria produce energy, right?
Vesna:But if you're getting through the day and you feel exhausted and maybe it
Vesna:doesn't register as exhaustion, maybe it registers, I just can't be bothered.
Vesna:I've got all this work piling up.
Vesna:I've got messages piling up and I just can't be bothered getting to it.
Vesna:Right.
Vesna:So maybe there's just not even the mental power or the
Vesna:headspace to deal with that stuff.
Vesna:Right.
Vesna:And so when we are at our best, when we have health and
Vesna:vitality, we can do things.
Vesna:Create more energy, have more energy to do more, right?
Vesna:That's the way it works.
Vesna:It doesn't mean that we do a lot of work and then we're exhausted
Vesna:because we've used up all of our energy, energy is infinite okay?
Vesna:So it's not a finite resource.
Vesna:So if you're in this place, you can keep pushing.
Vesna:I want to share my story because I've been in this place twice and I've
Vesna:learned a lot through this experience and that's why I specialize in this
Vesna:kind of work because I can see how your life can really change from.
Vesna:someone who probably loved what they did and was a really happy and energetic
Vesna:person to really feeling just not yourself and exhausted and just wanting a way out
Vesna:and just feeling unhappy and like you've lost yourself in the process, So years
Vesna:ago when I started my first clinical practice, I put everything into it.
Vesna:It had to be successful, right?
Vesna:I had no plan B.
Vesna:And I worked very hard and I put a lot of my mental energy into it,
Vesna:right, and it was successful, but I was becoming burnt out, right?
Vesna:I didn't realize that I was getting tired over time.
Vesna:My fatigue was building.
Vesna:I eventually got to the point where I couldn't work a full day without
Vesna:having a nap in the middle of the day.
Vesna:I was that tired.
Vesna:I'd have to find a massage table that wasn't being used in the clinic.
Vesna:I would literally Have a nap in the afternoon because I
Vesna:couldn't get through the day.
Vesna:I was stressed about everything, right?
Vesna:I was always worried all the time.
Vesna:If it was a good week in business, if it was a bad week in business,
Vesna:if we had some clients cancel, my mind would catastrophize, right?
Vesna:I'd be like, Oh, we're going to go broke.
Vesna:It's going to be the end.
Vesna:Right.
Vesna:And all the little problems that came up were like big problems for me.
Vesna:And I was always carrying my work home with me.
Vesna:I could never switch off.
Vesna:And even at nighttime in bed, I couldn't switch off.
Vesna:Yeah.
Vesna:So I had the fatigue, but I also had this extreme bloating.
Vesna:I always felt like I was about six months pregnant, but I wasn't.
Vesna:I did a lot of gut work.
Vesna:I did a lot of gut support because obviously I was doing
Vesna:that in my clinic, but none of the things were working for me.
Vesna:I remember getting a food allergy test or food intolerance test done.
Vesna:And I'll never forget the woman said, I have never seen anyone with this
Vesna:many food intolerances like you have.
Vesna:And the only thing that I wasn't reacting to was meat, chicken, fish, right?
Vesna:So the protein sources.
Vesna:And I wasn't really surprised because I had so many gut symptoms.
Vesna:And so we can get like a false reaction to food because our gut is so, there's
Vesna:so much dysfunction in the gut.
Vesna:And so the immune system reacts to all different foods and it looks like
Vesna:a food intolerance, but it's not.
Vesna:So, I had this bloating, I was cutting out all these foods from my diet.
Vesna:I gained about 10 kilos, which felt like it was virtually overnight.
Vesna:I tried all the different diets, right.
Vesna:Cut out carbohydrates, exercised more, counted every morsel of food
Vesna:that I had, cut out everything.
Vesna:And it was really stressful, okay.
Vesna:It was really stressful.
Vesna:Because I didn't feel well, I didn't have the energy, I had this massive bloating,
Vesna:I gained a lot of weight, I had to buy new clothes, I didn't like the way that I
Vesna:dressed and the way that I felt, I looked at myself in the mirror in the morning
Vesna:and I was like, what has happened, right?
Vesna:While being very healthy, right?
Vesna:I was a very healthy person, I always ate well, I took my supplements.
Vesna:At that point, I was taking a fistful of supplements three times a day.
Vesna:two herbal medicine dispensaries in my practice.
Vesna:So I would always make up herbs, I was taking those,
Vesna:and none of them were helping.
Vesna:None of them were working to get me back to feeling like myself again.
Vesna:And my hormones were a mess, right?
Vesna:So I remember at PMS, it was a disaster.
Vesna:I felt almost depressed at that time, which was very new for me, right?
Vesna:So, I had a lot of hormonal changes going on inside my body.
Vesna:So, I I was doing all the right things.
Vesna:I was taking the right supplements, the right herbs, doing the diet,
Vesna:sleeping, exercising where I could, but I was exhausted and it wasn't helping.
Vesna:So I went to see other naturopaths.
Vesna:I went to see a Chinese medicine doctor.
Vesna:I went to see a doctor, a specialist, a psychologist.
Vesna:I meditated.
Vesna:I did really look for other modalities to help me.
Vesna:And again, I stayed stuck in this place for five years.
Vesna:Now, I had gone to see specialist and she had a look at my hormones and
Vesna:I was in my twenties at this point.
Vesna:She had a look at my hormones and she just looked at me, she looked at the
Vesna:results and she looked at me and she said, What are you so stressed about?
Vesna:And I was like, completely not wanting to, you know, be in my body in that moment.
Vesna:I was so disconnected because I was just trying to always figure out,
Vesna:you know, how to feel better and how to keep my business running, etc.
Vesna:But in that moment when she asked me that, I said, I don't know.
Vesna:looking back, I knew that if she'd asked me one more time, I think
Vesna:I would've cried because it was just sitting below the surface.
Vesna:I didn't want to acknowledge it, like I didn't have the awareness, right?
Vesna:I wasn't really connected then.
Vesna:And so she could see in my hormone profile, my cortisol and
Vesna:DHEA was off the charts right?
Vesna:It was like the levels of a postmenopausal woman and I was in my twenties.
Vesna:It's not to say it had impact on my menstrual cycle, but it had a massive
Vesna:impact on how much my body could tolerate stress and how much energy
Vesna:it could generate, and that was.
Vesna:A bit of an aha for me, but I'd kind of already known that I was in this adrenal
Vesna:fatigue state, but that was really good, I guess, acknowledgement of, hey,
Vesna:you've got to pull back a bit, right?
Vesna:There's, there's way too much stress going on and That was controlling my hormones.
Vesna:That was preventing my body from healing, right?
Vesna:So when we're in this stress state, our body cannot heal.
Vesna:It doesn't matter how much goodness we put into it.
Vesna:When we've got one foot on the gas and one foot on the brake,
Vesna:we're not getting anywhere, right?
Vesna:And the foot on the gas is this constant stress that we're generating.
Vesna:Even though we're putting the good stuff in, we're just not going to move.
Vesna:We're just going to burn out, right?
Vesna:We're doing a burnout, like in the car, right?
Vesna:If you've ever driven a manual car, that's how you do a burnout.
Vesna:So that's what we do to our bodies, right?
Vesna:And we don't, unless you know this, unless until you have awareness, you could be
Vesna:doing all the right things and feeling really frustrated as to why you're not
Vesna:moving forward and not feeling better.
Vesna:Now, it took me a long time to really see the stresses in my life, right?
Vesna:So initially I was like, okay, so the stress is my business.
Vesna:I was also in a very stressful relationship and a really big aha moment
Vesna:for me was when I left that relationship.
Vesna:My symptoms, like my gut symptoms, that I'd struggled with for five
Vesna:years and I could barely put any food in my mouth without reacting to
Vesna:it, those gut symptoms disappeared from one week to the next, right?
Vesna:And so I remember going to my mum's and having like pasta and bread
Vesna:and stuff which I hadn't touched in years and I was able to eat those
Vesna:foods without any reaction and that was like a massive aha for me.
Vesna:my digestive system really shut down due to all the stress that I was experiencing.
Vesna:And so of course I did feel like, okay, so in order to get your body into recovery
Vesna:mode, it has to be in healing mode, which means we have to remove all the stress.
Vesna:And so later on, when I felt myself getting burnt out
Vesna:again, I took off to Argentina.
Vesna:I thought business was too stressful, life was too stressful, I needed a break.
Vesna:But When I was there, I spent a few months there, I was still exhausted.
Vesna:I was sleeping all the time.
Vesna:I was really anxious all the time as well.
Vesna:And I'd really come to see that, you know, that saying, wherever
Vesna:you go, you take yourself with you well, this was it, right?
Vesna:I could see that the stress wasn't what was happening around me.
Vesna:It was how my mind was processing it.
Vesna:It was what was going on in my thinking that was actually
Vesna:generating all the stress for me.
Vesna:So when my stress lifted, my symptoms resolved very quickly, right?
Vesna:And so I could see why I had been stuck.
Vesna:I could see why then my clients had been stuck in this place as well.
Vesna:And so the first place that I went to with my clients was, you know, number
Vesna:one thing we need to do is remove all the stress from your life, right?
Vesna:Let's have a look at your work.
Vesna:Let's have a look at your relationships.
Vesna:Let's have a look at everything, right?
Vesna:And remove the stress.
Vesna:That wasn't a game changer for my clients.
Vesna:I'll be honest because as I'll explain to you that, doing that kind
Vesna:of work, I wasn't seeing amazing results with clients, but I knew
Vesna:that stress was still a factor.
Vesna:And the biggest realizations that I've had, and I want to share with
Vesna:you here is that Stress without some kind of recovery plan affects
Vesna:everything in our life, right?
Vesna:It's going to wear you down it's going to disrupt your hormones.
Vesna:It's going to disrupt your brain chemistry.
Vesna:Your gut health has this full downstream effect on our body, and
Vesna:it's going to wear you down where you won't get the business results
Vesna:or your work results as you once did.
Vesna:You'll want to quit.
Vesna:Okay.
Vesna:I went through that process.
Vesna:It'll affect your relationships.
Vesna:It's where it could affect it so much that the relationship ends.
Vesna:It'll affect your time with your children because you're unable to be present
Vesna:and all you want to do is just rest and relax and just kind of recover.
Vesna:also deteriorates your health to the point where it can lead to a chronic illness.
Vesna:So stress affects everything that's the one realisation.
Vesna:It's really the number one handbrake that we have, not from experiencing
Vesna:health and vitality, not just that, but really experiencing the results that we
Vesna:want to create in our life, whether it be in our business or through our work
Vesna:or in our community or in our family.
Vesna:Stress is the number one thing holding us back here.
Vesna:Number two realization is that stress is not coming from our work.
Vesna:It's not coming from the business, right?
Vesna:It's not coming from anything outside of us.
Vesna:That was a really hard thing for me to see.
Vesna:Or, not hard, but once I saw it, I couldn't really unsee it.
Vesna:Because I've had financial stress, right?
Vesna:you know, in the beginning of this online business, I had a lot of financial stress.
Vesna:But there were days where I was so stressed, So stressed at the point
Vesna:of anxiety all day when I look at my bank account, the number in my
Vesna:bank account terrified me, right?
Vesna:But then the very next day, I'd be really hopeful and positive about
Vesna:what the future was going to Bring.
Vesna:Yet the number in my bank account was exactly the same.
Vesna:So I could see that stress.
Vesna:Yes, we have challenges in our life that we have to overcome and that we have to
Vesna:find solutions for, but the stress of it, the overwhelm is coming from our thinking
Vesna:and that's my third realization was this overthinking, this
Vesna:worrying, this living in our mind, catastrophizing, holding onto.
Vesna:Scenarios and what could be, right?
Vesna:Freaking ourselves out by what could happen is actually
Vesna:what's draining our system.
Vesna:It's wearing us down and it's causing too much stress and it's elevating
Vesna:our stress hormones to the point where it could be all day long.
Vesna:And what you may not realize and what I did not realize at the
Vesna:time is that We do really well with a calm, quiet mind, right?
Vesna:We don't do well with a busy mind.
Vesna:We think that if we're busy, we're going to, you know, have everything
Vesna:covered, and we're being more productive.
Vesna:But actually, all we're doing is creating a lot of overthinking,
Vesna:overwhelm, anxiety, and stress.
Vesna:And stress is not the best place that we work from, right?
Vesna:The best place that we operate from is from a quiet, calm mind
Vesna:and that means we can be creative, we can have new, innovative ideas.
Vesna:We can, you know, help to make better decisions in our life and in our business.
Vesna:We can be more rational, we can handle stress, we can handle the challenges
Vesna:from completely different perspective.
Vesna:So it's kind of that saying, you know, like.
Vesna:we can't solve our problems on the same level of thinking that we created it with.
Vesna:There's something like that's the Einstein quote, I think, which
Vesna:I've definitely got wrong there.
Vesna:But the idea is, is that when we're in that busy mind, we're
Vesna:only going to come up with the same ideas that we've had before.
Vesna:But when we have a calm mind, we really have more clarity to see
Vesna:our way through the challenge.
Vesna:Okay?
Vesna:So definitely in the, in this online business when I began, I
Vesna:had a lot of overthinking that kept me stuck for a very long time.
Vesna:Okay.
Vesna:And I couldn't see it at the time, but the value of a quiet mind versus the
Vesna:worry, the overthinking and the mental stress and that we can go full out.
Vesna:You can work hard, you can achieve your goals, but you need to have
Vesna:a recovery plan in place right?
Vesna:We can't just go full steam all the time.
Vesna:We need to have habits and recovery plan in place to keep your body in
Vesna:check, keep your mental health in check, So you can do your absolute
Vesna:best in everything that you do.
Vesna:So if you're a woman in business or leadership, that's kind of
Vesna:heading down this road, maybe you feel like you're already burnt out
Vesna:or you went to the doctor and he said, Oh, I think you're depressed.
Vesna:And you know that you're not.
Vesna:a woman knows.
Vesna:that something's not right that it's not depression, okay?
Vesna:And if it feels like you're already in burnout or adrenal fatigue, then I want
Vesna:to assure you that there is so much that you can do to get back to where you were
Vesna:before, probably even better than what you ever were through a recovery plan.