1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,680 Hi, this is Stephanie Maas, partner with Thinking Ahead Search Firm, and today I wanna share with you a really neat conversation I had with one of my clients a couple weeks ago. 2 00:00:11,010 --> 00:00:20,610 This is an organization I've done a tremendous amount of work for over the years, and the hiring manager called me and said, Hey, we are gonna be doing some regional expansion, and I. 3 00:00:20,865 --> 00:00:25,875 Think it makes sense to partner with you on this, but I really wanna get your take. 4 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,380 Now that sounds very self-serving. 5 00:00:28,380 --> 00:00:28,740 Of course. 6 00:00:28,740 --> 00:00:30,509 I'm like, yeah, I can make a case for you. 7 00:00:30,540 --> 00:00:31,830 You wanna use a search firm and me? 8 00:00:31,860 --> 00:00:32,550 Absolutely. 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,380 But we have such a partnership. 10 00:00:34,410 --> 00:00:40,470 It was, Hey, really help me understand that this really is the best business decision for me right now. 11 00:00:40,710 --> 00:00:49,590 And one of the things we talked about was when you are entering into a new market or a market, maybe you don't have the expertise that you may have in other markets. 12 00:00:49,890 --> 00:00:54,360 How can partnering with the right search firm really make a difference? 13 00:00:54,745 --> 00:01:01,945 One of the things that we talked about were some of the kind of behind the scenes effects of working with the right kind of firm. 14 00:01:02,214 --> 00:01:06,475 One of them was, Hey, we are a little bit old fashioned in our approach. 15 00:01:06,535 --> 00:01:13,525 While we absolutely use all the technologies that the world provides today, we still do most of our search efforts. 16 00:01:14,125 --> 00:01:24,265 On the phone, any search that we take, it typically nets between a hundred and 120 calls into the market looking for specific talent. 17 00:01:24,775 --> 00:01:38,815 Now, those calls don't net 120 candidates or even 120 people interested, but what it can net as a byproduct is that's 120 folks in this line of business that have the opportunity. 18 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:49,240 To hear your story, not read about it in a publication on LinkedIn, not hear it secondhand, but to really hear, Hey, here's what's going on. 19 00:01:49,390 --> 00:01:50,920 Here's something new or different. 20 00:01:51,039 --> 00:01:52,570 That's a huge byproduct. 21 00:01:52,900 --> 00:01:57,850 The other thing too, as you can imagine, if this is a regional growth expansion effort. 22 00:01:58,410 --> 00:02:05,430 That means the organization's doing really well, and that hiring manager, as you can imagine, is spread incredibly thin. 23 00:02:05,789 --> 00:02:20,460 While I definitely believe that a part of the hiring manager's job is to be in a constant recruiting and selling mode in terms of, Hey, you should be meeting with people in your line of business, at your competitor organizations and talking to 'em about your organization. 24 00:02:20,790 --> 00:02:22,560 That's just a good recruiting strategy. 25 00:02:23,100 --> 00:02:29,100 When you go into a market where you don't know folks, unfortunately you can spend a lot of time. 26 00:02:29,865 --> 00:02:37,365 Telling your story to the wrong folks, where the right search partner can really help you maximize your time. 27 00:02:37,965 --> 00:02:44,295 The analogy that I gave is it gives you opportunities to get more shots on goals. 28 00:02:44,565 --> 00:02:49,425 Hey, look, if you wanna skate around on the ice all day and call that productive, you go right ahead. 29 00:02:49,665 --> 00:02:58,485 But most hiring managers that I know that are really good at what they do, they wanna spend their time taking shots on goal and with the right search partner. 30 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:06,120 You can, the question I get asked all the time is what makes me different than the other search firms in the market? 31 00:03:06,420 --> 00:03:12,330 And I welcome the opportunity because it's absolutely not a matter of, hey, who's better, who's nicer? 32 00:03:12,330 --> 00:03:13,230 Who's a better human? 33 00:03:13,230 --> 00:03:14,220 I have no idea. 34 00:03:14,220 --> 00:03:22,890 I don't know my competitors like that, but I do know that there's one fundamental difference in our model that I think, depending on what your needs are, could make a big difference. 35 00:03:23,155 --> 00:03:25,345 And look, I'm not being politically correct. 36 00:03:25,405 --> 00:03:27,655 I am using the word different for a reason. 37 00:03:27,745 --> 00:03:30,265 Everybody has their own style, their own system. 38 00:03:30,265 --> 00:03:34,734 And look at the end of the day, as long as it's ethical, whatever works for you, good for you. 39 00:03:34,975 --> 00:03:38,125 Our firm, I have noticed though, is a little bit different. 40 00:03:38,394 --> 00:03:45,325 Not that are just different than some of our competitors, and it is part of what makes us so successful with our clients. 41 00:03:45,415 --> 00:03:47,875 We are a boutique search firm. 42 00:03:48,385 --> 00:03:51,984 I will make between 15 and 20 placements a year. 43 00:03:52,330 --> 00:03:52,960 That's it. 44 00:03:53,200 --> 00:04:01,300 That's all I need to make to provide a fantastic life for my family and to serve those 15 to 20 clients extremely well. 45 00:04:01,450 --> 00:04:05,020 And candidates too Boutique is this for us. 46 00:04:05,020 --> 00:04:13,090 What that means is that we are highly specialized both vertically within a niche and geographically. 47 00:04:13,535 --> 00:04:20,104 So I have a small geographic territory that I work within a very narrow niche. 48 00:04:20,404 --> 00:04:25,504 If you need a dedicated effort to fill a role. 49 00:04:26,189 --> 00:04:31,499 In that vertical, in that geography, that's where our firm excels. 50 00:04:31,949 --> 00:04:39,179 However, that doesn't mean we're the solution for everybody, and this is where I think some of my competitors, the volume shops can add a lot of value. 51 00:04:39,689 --> 00:04:42,599 Most of my competitors are a volume shop. 52 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:44,819 Again, it doesn't mean they're bad. 53 00:04:44,879 --> 00:04:50,159 Sometimes they can get to the right people in a way that we don't or we can't. 54 00:04:50,944 --> 00:04:54,994 So let me explain to you what I mean by volume shop versus boutique. 55 00:04:55,414 --> 00:05:02,314 Here's what it could mean for you when you're looking or deciding, Hey, do I go with a volume shop or do I go with a boutique firm? 56 00:05:02,585 --> 00:05:04,564 Couple stats you should know and be aware of. 57 00:05:04,804 --> 00:05:08,674 First of all, if you give the search out to multiple firms. 58 00:05:09,075 --> 00:05:18,585 In a contingent arrangement, meaning, Hey, we'll pay you a hundred percent of the fee once you fill the role, and we have multiple search firms working on it. 59 00:05:18,705 --> 00:05:27,105 There's actually about an 18% success rate that any one of those multiple firms will actually fill the role. 60 00:05:27,345 --> 00:05:28,335 And they know this. 61 00:05:28,844 --> 00:05:34,514 It's actually an 82% fail rate, so just be mindful if you take that tactic. 62 00:05:34,514 --> 00:05:41,354 Sometimes candidly, I've had clients approach me and say, Hey, we think we know who we want, but I just need some comparison resumes. 63 00:05:41,354 --> 00:05:42,884 I just need to see what else is out there to know. 64 00:05:42,884 --> 00:05:44,834 This is the one we want and we need 'em fast. 65 00:05:45,314 --> 00:05:47,655 You should absolutely call a volume shop during that time. 66 00:05:47,775 --> 00:05:50,594 They can get you three or four resumes, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. 67 00:05:50,864 --> 00:05:55,499 I'm not sure how qualified they'll be, but they'll make you feel better about the person you're getting ready to hire. 68 00:05:56,070 --> 00:06:02,280 Second thing you should know if you use that similar model and say, you know, I need more than just comparison candidates. 69 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:14,250 I actually need, we've got some internal people and I've had some internal, you know, referrals that I like what I see, but I just wanna make sure that we're really getting the best possible look at all of the available talent. 70 00:06:14,490 --> 00:06:16,140 Then you might go in a situation where, again. 71 00:06:16,974 --> 00:06:24,144 You say to the search firm, Hey, we'll pay you a hundred percent if we hire your person, but we're not gonna have five other firms on it. 72 00:06:24,234 --> 00:06:26,124 We're just gonna let you, and let's see what you can do. 73 00:06:26,334 --> 00:06:32,424 In that scenario, there's about a 45% success rate that that firm will actually fill the position. 74 00:06:32,814 --> 00:06:35,304 Here's where we come in and make things a little bit different. 75 00:06:35,965 --> 00:06:42,954 When I get called by my clients to action, what they're saying to me is, Stephanie, we need to make a hire. 76 00:06:43,545 --> 00:06:48,555 We need to do it through your process, and we need to know what is the absolute best. 77 00:06:49,530 --> 00:06:54,509 Obtainable talent we can get for this role in the next 90 days. 78 00:06:54,749 --> 00:06:58,830 We're only gonna give the search to you and we need you to fill it. 79 00:06:59,099 --> 00:07:00,119 In that scenario. 80 00:07:00,359 --> 00:07:02,939 It's a 94% success rate. 81 00:07:03,330 --> 00:07:04,344 So small difference. 82 00:07:04,344 --> 00:07:04,544 Huh? 83 00:07:05,185 --> 00:07:19,525 Again, we serve different purposes, and where I have noticed that our firm does extremely well is again, if there is a dedicated need, you absolutely need the search filled with the best available talent. 84 00:07:19,914 --> 00:07:22,405 Boutique firms tend to rise to that challenge. 85 00:07:22,914 --> 00:07:31,795 I'm not saying a volume shop can't ever do that, but again, by the nature of their setup, I, at any given moment, am working between five and seven searches at a time. 86 00:07:32,094 --> 00:07:32,730 That's it. 87 00:07:33,494 --> 00:07:34,155 That's it. 88 00:07:34,575 --> 00:07:37,094 Volume shops, they're playing the numbers. 89 00:07:37,304 --> 00:07:44,114 So I know one of my competitor on his desk at any given time is between 18 and 25 different searches. 90 00:07:44,385 --> 00:07:51,344 I mean, if you're one of 18, one of 25, how committed is he to filling your need? 91 00:07:51,734 --> 00:07:54,284 But again, it might be just what you need. 92 00:07:54,614 --> 00:07:56,715 So again, there's a little bit of a difference. 93 00:07:57,104 --> 00:07:58,335 It's not good or bad. 94 00:07:58,364 --> 00:07:59,895 It is just what it is. 95 00:08:00,075 --> 00:08:01,764 Depending on what you need, depends on who you call.