First of all, it builds trust. So many website
Speaker:designers, and particularly developers are missing out on
Speaker:work. You know, ultimately people buy from people
Speaker:and we always need to remember that. In today's episode we
Speaker:are going to discuss how to put pricing on your website
Speaker:when your pricing is bespoke and suited to each individual
Speaker:project.
Speaker:Hi, I'm Holly Christie, I'm from Websites Made simple and
Speaker:I am here to support you if you're a website designer, website
Speaker:developer in having a business you absolutely
Speaker:love. Ready to go, let's get started.
Speaker:So today I'm going to talk about pricing on websites because
Speaker:so many clients say to me, should I have my pricing on my website?
Speaker:Now you're an experienced or just starting out website developer,
Speaker:hopefully you're going to know that the answer here is going to be yes, you
Speaker:need to have pricing on the website. First of all, it builds trust. It's
Speaker:about transparency. They can see your pricing and
Speaker:immediately they can pre qualify themselves
Speaker:as to whether they're going to want to work with you or not.
Speaker:As long as you've got a really good, really strong, really engaging
Speaker:website with a good portfolio. Do not worry about putting
Speaker:your prices on your website, even if those prices are high.
Speaker:Don't worry about can be hard if you are
Speaker:creating your pricing and I hear you my pricing
Speaker:also custom. I do have my own simply sites
Speaker:where there are their lower budget websites and you just choose the
Speaker:site that's right for you and that is what you pay for it. But when
Speaker:it comes to custom, as you'll know, there's just so many deciding
Speaker:factors in it. It can be how many pages the website build
Speaker:is, how complicated the tech is going to be that you're
Speaker:also working about incorporating certain design elements, whether you're
Speaker:sourcing those elements for the client or whether they're coming through from a
Speaker:designer tech like whether they're having memberships. You know,
Speaker:there's so many things that influence it and I'm actually one
Speaker:for saying yeah, you should be customizing your pricing like
Speaker:this. And actually I left one off which is
Speaker:and actually I left one off which is how much of a pain the
Speaker:client's going to be if you have a client who's going to want to have
Speaker:a lot of meetings and they generally want a
Speaker:lot of face to face time which is most web designers nightmare,
Speaker:including mine. I have set terms in
Speaker:my contract that says how many meetings people get with me, it talks about my
Speaker:process, it tells them that they will hear from me a lot, they'll get video
Speaker:recordings, they'll get all that sort of thing. But if they want
Speaker:face to face time with me beyond the initial call and
Speaker:an initial meeting, they then need to pay for it. And you'd be
Speaker:really surprised how many people choose that. They actually don't need to
Speaker:meet when they've got a charge of £130.
Speaker:If I feel that from that initial call that someone's going to want
Speaker:some more hand holding, I might actually just build that into the
Speaker:price of the website as well. One of the reasons
Speaker:that I don't go for kind of flat across the board
Speaker:pricing, say, you know, all websites are £4,000 or
Speaker:all membership sites are £7,500.
Speaker:I get that that's really reassuring to the customer.
Speaker:However, if I said that there's a baseline of
Speaker:all custom build websites are £4,000,
Speaker:regardless whether you have a five page website or a ten page website,
Speaker:for example, that's like, well, happy days to the
Speaker:five page websites that we're building because we're being paid double what we
Speaker:are for the 10 page website. But it doesn't really work like that
Speaker:and the customer shouldn't have to pay that buffer. I
Speaker:mean, when we're working out the pricing, it's not just the cost of the
Speaker:website, it's not just the cost per page, although that does come into it.
Speaker:It's the cost of our skills, our learning, the
Speaker:marketing we have to do in the background. The fact that we don't get paid
Speaker:holidays because we're not employees yet, we put all of that together
Speaker:in a package. So it's not surprising that our
Speaker:pricing is bespoke, that we think, oh yeah, this is
Speaker:going to be a quick little five pager, as opposed to a five pager
Speaker:that may be full of really complex stuff. And I know that there
Speaker:are a lot of coaches that say everything should be the same price. You should
Speaker:know the price of your offering. Boom, boom, boom. That works very well for
Speaker:coaches, it works well for copywriters, it doesn't work well as a model
Speaker:for website designers. So feel free to
Speaker:absolutely create your own pricing.
Speaker:We do need to know how we're going to get that across on the website
Speaker:in a way that people are going to think, yeah, you know, that's
Speaker:transparent. I like it. I know whether I can afford to work with this or
Speaker:not and get in touch as a web designer, you'll know. People
Speaker:don't just land on a website, think, yes, I want this, I'll buy it. Unless
Speaker:it is either a very low cost product, like they think Oh, I
Speaker:need a water bottle. I'll go on Amazon, I'll buy the water bottle or
Speaker:unless it's something that is so niche and it is an exact match
Speaker:that they just think, yeah, that's what I need, off I go. You want it
Speaker:to be memorable because it's a really good representation of
Speaker:you, whatever that is. You know, we're all different. My websites are about, you know,
Speaker:sleek, professional, that kind of professional confidence
Speaker:sort of thing. But I love seeing websites when they're really playful
Speaker:and they're really vibey and stuff like that. So many
Speaker:website designers and particularly developers are missing
Speaker:out on work because they don't have photos of them on their website. They have,
Speaker:you know, videos of lots of code going across on screen or they've
Speaker:got big graphics of computers and people don't relate to that.
Speaker:And people, particularly when it comes to
Speaker:anything techy and web design can still feel really
Speaker:overwhelming for some people. They
Speaker:will just feel immediately overwhelmed. You know, ultimately people
Speaker:buy from people and we always need to remember that. With your pricing
Speaker:you can have a prices start from
Speaker:on your website. You can put it in your frequently asked questions, you can put
Speaker:it on your website pages. Whatever works for you.
Speaker:I would say try not to hide it. I would say in
Speaker:my website it is in my frequently asked questions on the
Speaker:page relating to the custom build website. But I do
Speaker:think I'd actually like to make it a little bit more transparent and have it
Speaker:on the website there. And that's something I'm going to be working on with a
Speaker:big website update I'm doing soon. But if you're
Speaker:not sure and your pricing is kind of really bespoke for
Speaker:each project, then price is starting from here.
Speaker:You can also have a price range as well. So
Speaker:websites of up to five pages prices from
Speaker:this, websites from up to 10 pages prices from that.
Speaker:Likewise with memberships or things like that, I prefer to have
Speaker:a kind of a blanket prices from. I think at the
Speaker:moment it's around about the 3,000 pound mark. Then I also have
Speaker:in the frequently asked Questions the breakdown of
Speaker:if you would like membership or specific plugins or something
Speaker:like that that's going to cost extra, the cost of the
Speaker:plugin plus the setup of it, et cetera, et cetera. But all
Speaker:of that really gets discussed at the time of
Speaker:meeting clients to see whether we're the right fit for each other.
Speaker:Pricing from Feel free absolutely. To group it if you'd like to give
Speaker:it as a guide because that can be really helpful when you
Speaker:have people who, let's say you have pricing from
Speaker:£2,000, but they come to you with something
Speaker:that's quite complex and actually you want to charge more like six or seven thousand
Speaker:pounds. They then say to you, well, this is
Speaker:three times what you've described on your website. I'm not
Speaker:feeling that there's trust there. So if you're just doing
Speaker:a lot of the same sites, like some web developers and designers only work on
Speaker:e commerce sites, they'll have their own pricing structure for that.
Speaker:Some only do brochure sites. I actually do both e
Speaker:commerce and brochure, but I prefer working on brochure sites as well.
Speaker:And so really make it clear to your clients. And you can also
Speaker:have, if you like, and obviously we're developers, we can code these
Speaker:things, an estimated pricing calculator. You can do it where
Speaker:it says, what type of website are you looking for? Are you a service based
Speaker:business, Are you a product based business? And they can check, are you looking
Speaker:to have a membership? Are you looking to have this, are you looking to have
Speaker:that? You can then have it displaying,
Speaker:say we estimate website would be
Speaker:in the region of this much, pop your details in
Speaker:here and you know, or book a chat with us and you can make it
Speaker:clear that it is only an estimate but it gives them something
Speaker:straight away which often lots of other website designers won't
Speaker:be giving out. Yeah, it's real transparency and you're going to get that
Speaker:engagement. Because people always like to know how much things cost. The fact that
Speaker:you've made it easy for them with like a pricing
Speaker:calculator is also a little bit impressive for people.
Speaker:So it gives them that pull and it makes them think, ah, their
Speaker:prices might be high but look at what they're offering, look at what they've got
Speaker:on their own website. So don't be afraid of doing that. Another
Speaker:thing that you can do is you should have a portfolio on your website.
Speaker:And people will often get more of a vibe just from going through
Speaker:your website than they will on your portfolio. But it's really important
Speaker:you have them. And I also have, when I send out quotes to
Speaker:people, once I've spoken to them on Zoom, I
Speaker:will then send them a link to my portfolio. I'll send them a link to
Speaker:my Google Reviews as well. And something you could look at as well
Speaker:is within your portfolio. You could have this website
Speaker:cost this much. This website was from
Speaker:this package. So you know the package
Speaker:1, 2000-4000 pounds or something like that. So people can
Speaker:actually see what real Time
Speaker:prices get by seeing what you're building,
Speaker:not just your own website, but what you're building for other people as well.
Speaker:If you do it that way, it's really important to put a date on there
Speaker:as well because pricing obviously does change as everything
Speaker:kind of goes up and your skill set deepens as well. So for
Speaker:example, I don't have a constant portfolio
Speaker:of like all the work I've done because I've done hundreds of websites and you
Speaker:know, some of them date back like 10 years, so it just wouldn't be relevant
Speaker:now. So I tried to keep quite a limited portfolio on my
Speaker:website from the last couple of years. And Ima put
Speaker:this website was built in 2023 or was published in
Speaker:2023. Price Band A and you can
Speaker:link that price band, you can pop it and see toggle
Speaker:so that when you click on it it says price band a. Websites of
Speaker:£2,000 to £4,000, something like that. Click here to inquire about
Speaker:one of these. Never leave that opportunity on the
Speaker:table. Always get in touch about your prices.
Speaker:I would love to hear your stories about pricing. I think
Speaker:we've all got some of them where we've had a
Speaker:client who's just suddenly been really unexpected with one of the prices. Or
Speaker:have you had the pricing where you go in there and you think, oh
Speaker:yeah, I priced this really high only to not get the project because
Speaker:they think you're too cheap. Remember, things are so
Speaker:subjective. I did a website and it was
Speaker:for some people who were doing startup
Speaker:and I wanted to learn Shopify at the time and
Speaker:I identified that Shopify would be a really good match for them.
Speaker:So I quoted them and they said, you know, it's a startup, we don't want
Speaker:to spend too much money on that, all that sort of stuff. So I thought,
Speaker:well, I'll quite low because I'm learning at the same time and it's giving me
Speaker:that opportunity. So I've got to say this was about six years ago, something like
Speaker:that. And I thought, okay, well I'm going to quote it at like
Speaker:£800 or something like that. So when I did, the
Speaker:woman then said, oh, my husband's going to pay this, can you forward it to
Speaker:this email address? And she sent through their physical address for the invoice
Speaker:as well. And the husband was a partner in an
Speaker:estate agent that was, you know, one of the top leading performing estate
Speaker:agents in the country, you know, that had a very, very high turnover. So I
Speaker:could have actually doubled that invoice. They most likely
Speaker:still would have paid it because they wanted to work with me as well. So
Speaker:as much as they had said, they just wanted to invest a little bit
Speaker:into this startup, what was a little bit to them was
Speaker:very different to what is a little bit to me. So do bear
Speaker:that in mind. Be confident in your pricing. Know what's going into
Speaker:your pricing. One final piece of advice, if you go to my
Speaker:website, thisdemandinglife.com go to the blog, you will see
Speaker:I've got several articles there of what a website pricing is
Speaker:made up of. And when I send out quotes to
Speaker:clients, don't send quotes as PDFs with this, with that.
Speaker:No one's got time for that, especially if you're going up against other web designers.
Speaker:I have a really robust kind of zoom call with them. Those calls
Speaker:are free. And then I will send them an email with everything
Speaker:we've discussed. I will send a link to my portfolio, I send them a link
Speaker:to my Google reviews and I sometimes send them links to
Speaker:blog articles of how to choose the right designer or
Speaker:developer for your website, how to
Speaker:identify that it's time for a website redesign
Speaker:or rebuild, and how to prepare for that. So it's stuff like make
Speaker:sure you've got a copywriter, have you got a branding sheet, booked, all that sort
Speaker:of stuff. And a lot of time people come back to me and they say,
Speaker:yeah, we loved how robust this process was. We loved that you had
Speaker:covered everything. So if you are going to go out
Speaker:there, put your prices on your website, own it. And
Speaker:if you think that you would like to break it down for your clients as
Speaker:well, absolutely do. Pop it into a blog post, send them link to it.
Speaker:That's all from me today. Let me know how you are
Speaker:getting on with your website pricing. You can find me at
Speaker:websitesmadesimple.co.uk, or you can find me on LinkedIn
Speaker:@hollycchristie. Until next time.