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First of all, it builds trust. So many website

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designers, and particularly developers are missing out on

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work. You know, ultimately people buy from people

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and we always need to remember that. In today's episode we

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are going to discuss how to put pricing on your website

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when your pricing is bespoke and suited to each individual

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project.

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Hi, I'm Holly Christie, I'm from Websites Made simple and

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I am here to support you if you're a website designer, website

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developer in having a business you absolutely

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love. Ready to go, let's get started.

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So today I'm going to talk about pricing on websites because

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so many clients say to me, should I have my pricing on my website?

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Now you're an experienced or just starting out website developer,

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hopefully you're going to know that the answer here is going to be yes, you

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need to have pricing on the website. First of all, it builds trust. It's

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about transparency. They can see your pricing and

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immediately they can pre qualify themselves

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as to whether they're going to want to work with you or not.

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As long as you've got a really good, really strong, really engaging

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website with a good portfolio. Do not worry about putting

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your prices on your website, even if those prices are high.

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Don't worry about can be hard if you are

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creating your pricing and I hear you my pricing

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also custom. I do have my own simply sites

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where there are their lower budget websites and you just choose the

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site that's right for you and that is what you pay for it. But when

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it comes to custom, as you'll know, there's just so many deciding

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factors in it. It can be how many pages the website build

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is, how complicated the tech is going to be that you're

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also working about incorporating certain design elements, whether you're

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sourcing those elements for the client or whether they're coming through from a

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designer tech like whether they're having memberships. You know,

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there's so many things that influence it and I'm actually one

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for saying yeah, you should be customizing your pricing like

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this. And actually I left one off which is

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and actually I left one off which is how much of a pain the

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client's going to be if you have a client who's going to want to have

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a lot of meetings and they generally want a

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lot of face to face time which is most web designers nightmare,

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including mine. I have set terms in

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my contract that says how many meetings people get with me, it talks about my

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process, it tells them that they will hear from me a lot, they'll get video

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recordings, they'll get all that sort of thing. But if they want

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face to face time with me beyond the initial call and

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an initial meeting, they then need to pay for it. And you'd be

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really surprised how many people choose that. They actually don't need to

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meet when they've got a charge of £130.

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If I feel that from that initial call that someone's going to want

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some more hand holding, I might actually just build that into the

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price of the website as well. One of the reasons

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that I don't go for kind of flat across the board

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pricing, say, you know, all websites are £4,000 or

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all membership sites are £7,500.

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I get that that's really reassuring to the customer.

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However, if I said that there's a baseline of

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all custom build websites are £4,000,

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regardless whether you have a five page website or a ten page website,

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for example, that's like, well, happy days to the

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five page websites that we're building because we're being paid double what we

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are for the 10 page website. But it doesn't really work like that

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and the customer shouldn't have to pay that buffer. I

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mean, when we're working out the pricing, it's not just the cost of the

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website, it's not just the cost per page, although that does come into it.

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It's the cost of our skills, our learning, the

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marketing we have to do in the background. The fact that we don't get paid

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holidays because we're not employees yet, we put all of that together

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in a package. So it's not surprising that our

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pricing is bespoke, that we think, oh yeah, this is

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going to be a quick little five pager, as opposed to a five pager

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that may be full of really complex stuff. And I know that there

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are a lot of coaches that say everything should be the same price. You should

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know the price of your offering. Boom, boom, boom. That works very well for

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coaches, it works well for copywriters, it doesn't work well as a model

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for website designers. So feel free to

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absolutely create your own pricing.

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We do need to know how we're going to get that across on the website

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in a way that people are going to think, yeah, you know, that's

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transparent. I like it. I know whether I can afford to work with this or

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not and get in touch as a web designer, you'll know. People

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don't just land on a website, think, yes, I want this, I'll buy it. Unless

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it is either a very low cost product, like they think Oh, I

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need a water bottle. I'll go on Amazon, I'll buy the water bottle or

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unless it's something that is so niche and it is an exact match

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that they just think, yeah, that's what I need, off I go. You want it

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to be memorable because it's a really good representation of

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you, whatever that is. You know, we're all different. My websites are about, you know,

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sleek, professional, that kind of professional confidence

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sort of thing. But I love seeing websites when they're really playful

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and they're really vibey and stuff like that. So many

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website designers and particularly developers are missing

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out on work because they don't have photos of them on their website. They have,

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you know, videos of lots of code going across on screen or they've

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got big graphics of computers and people don't relate to that.

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And people, particularly when it comes to

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anything techy and web design can still feel really

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overwhelming for some people. They

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will just feel immediately overwhelmed. You know, ultimately people

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buy from people and we always need to remember that. With your pricing

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you can have a prices start from

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on your website. You can put it in your frequently asked questions, you can put

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it on your website pages. Whatever works for you.

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I would say try not to hide it. I would say in

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my website it is in my frequently asked questions on the

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page relating to the custom build website. But I do

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think I'd actually like to make it a little bit more transparent and have it

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on the website there. And that's something I'm going to be working on with a

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big website update I'm doing soon. But if you're

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not sure and your pricing is kind of really bespoke for

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each project, then price is starting from here.

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You can also have a price range as well. So

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websites of up to five pages prices from

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this, websites from up to 10 pages prices from that.

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Likewise with memberships or things like that, I prefer to have

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a kind of a blanket prices from. I think at the

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moment it's around about the 3,000 pound mark. Then I also have

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in the frequently asked Questions the breakdown of

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if you would like membership or specific plugins or something

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like that that's going to cost extra, the cost of the

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plugin plus the setup of it, et cetera, et cetera. But all

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of that really gets discussed at the time of

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meeting clients to see whether we're the right fit for each other.

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Pricing from Feel free absolutely. To group it if you'd like to give

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it as a guide because that can be really helpful when you

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have people who, let's say you have pricing from

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£2,000, but they come to you with something

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that's quite complex and actually you want to charge more like six or seven thousand

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pounds. They then say to you, well, this is

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three times what you've described on your website. I'm not

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feeling that there's trust there. So if you're just doing

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a lot of the same sites, like some web developers and designers only work on

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e commerce sites, they'll have their own pricing structure for that.

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Some only do brochure sites. I actually do both e

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commerce and brochure, but I prefer working on brochure sites as well.

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And so really make it clear to your clients. And you can also

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have, if you like, and obviously we're developers, we can code these

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things, an estimated pricing calculator. You can do it where

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it says, what type of website are you looking for? Are you a service based

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business, Are you a product based business? And they can check, are you looking

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to have a membership? Are you looking to have this, are you looking to have

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that? You can then have it displaying,

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say we estimate website would be

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in the region of this much, pop your details in

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here and you know, or book a chat with us and you can make it

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clear that it is only an estimate but it gives them something

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straight away which often lots of other website designers won't

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be giving out. Yeah, it's real transparency and you're going to get that

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engagement. Because people always like to know how much things cost. The fact that

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you've made it easy for them with like a pricing

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calculator is also a little bit impressive for people.

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So it gives them that pull and it makes them think, ah, their

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prices might be high but look at what they're offering, look at what they've got

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on their own website. So don't be afraid of doing that. Another

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thing that you can do is you should have a portfolio on your website.

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And people will often get more of a vibe just from going through

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your website than they will on your portfolio. But it's really important

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you have them. And I also have, when I send out quotes to

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people, once I've spoken to them on Zoom, I

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will then send them a link to my portfolio. I'll send them a link to

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my Google Reviews as well. And something you could look at as well

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is within your portfolio. You could have this website

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cost this much. This website was from

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this package. So you know the package

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1, 2000-4000 pounds or something like that. So people can

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actually see what real Time

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prices get by seeing what you're building,

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not just your own website, but what you're building for other people as well.

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If you do it that way, it's really important to put a date on there

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as well because pricing obviously does change as everything

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kind of goes up and your skill set deepens as well. So for

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example, I don't have a constant portfolio

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of like all the work I've done because I've done hundreds of websites and you

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know, some of them date back like 10 years, so it just wouldn't be relevant

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now. So I tried to keep quite a limited portfolio on my

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website from the last couple of years. And Ima put

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this website was built in 2023 or was published in

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2023. Price Band A and you can

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link that price band, you can pop it and see toggle

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so that when you click on it it says price band a. Websites of

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£2,000 to £4,000, something like that. Click here to inquire about

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one of these. Never leave that opportunity on the

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table. Always get in touch about your prices.

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I would love to hear your stories about pricing. I think

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we've all got some of them where we've had a

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client who's just suddenly been really unexpected with one of the prices. Or

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have you had the pricing where you go in there and you think, oh

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yeah, I priced this really high only to not get the project because

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they think you're too cheap. Remember, things are so

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subjective. I did a website and it was

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for some people who were doing startup

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and I wanted to learn Shopify at the time and

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I identified that Shopify would be a really good match for them.

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So I quoted them and they said, you know, it's a startup, we don't want

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to spend too much money on that, all that sort of stuff. So I thought,

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well, I'll quite low because I'm learning at the same time and it's giving me

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that opportunity. So I've got to say this was about six years ago, something like

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that. And I thought, okay, well I'm going to quote it at like

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£800 or something like that. So when I did, the

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woman then said, oh, my husband's going to pay this, can you forward it to

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this email address? And she sent through their physical address for the invoice

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as well. And the husband was a partner in an

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estate agent that was, you know, one of the top leading performing estate

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agents in the country, you know, that had a very, very high turnover. So I

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could have actually doubled that invoice. They most likely

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still would have paid it because they wanted to work with me as well. So

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as much as they had said, they just wanted to invest a little bit

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into this startup, what was a little bit to them was

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very different to what is a little bit to me. So do bear

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that in mind. Be confident in your pricing. Know what's going into

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your pricing. One final piece of advice, if you go to my

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website, thisdemandinglife.com go to the blog, you will see

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I've got several articles there of what a website pricing is

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made up of. And when I send out quotes to

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clients, don't send quotes as PDFs with this, with that.

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No one's got time for that, especially if you're going up against other web designers.

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I have a really robust kind of zoom call with them. Those calls

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are free. And then I will send them an email with everything

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we've discussed. I will send a link to my portfolio, I send them a link

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to my Google reviews and I sometimes send them links to

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blog articles of how to choose the right designer or

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developer for your website, how to

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identify that it's time for a website redesign

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or rebuild, and how to prepare for that. So it's stuff like make

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sure you've got a copywriter, have you got a branding sheet, booked, all that sort

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of stuff. And a lot of time people come back to me and they say,

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yeah, we loved how robust this process was. We loved that you had

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covered everything. So if you are going to go out

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there, put your prices on your website, own it. And

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if you think that you would like to break it down for your clients as

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well, absolutely do. Pop it into a blog post, send them link to it.

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That's all from me today. Let me know how you are

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getting on with your website pricing. You can find me at

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websitesmadesimple.co.uk, or you can find me on LinkedIn

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@hollycchristie. Until next time.