1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,120 Welcome to Heaven Earth Church. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,040 My name is Ross Stackhouse. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,040 I'm the founding pastor of Heaven Earth Church. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,280 From the beginning, our heart was to be a church for people who 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,040 don't fit neatly into church. 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,200 Our heart is to meet people where they are, to learn their stories, 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:20,720 to honor their stories. 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,840 Because in every human story is God's story. 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,840 In this podcast, you'll hear more about the people who now call 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,400 Heaven Earth Church home. 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,420 Their stories, in many cases of misfits who are discovering or 12 00:00:33,420 --> 00:00:34,700 rediscovering faith. 13 00:00:34,860 --> 00:00:38,140 If you want to know more about us, you can go to heavenorthchurch.org 14 00:00:38,620 --> 00:00:41,660 Otherwise, we invite you now into the story. 15 00:00:42,300 --> 00:00:43,180 Hello, good people. 16 00:00:43,180 --> 00:00:47,900 Brad Miller here, the producer of the Heaven Earth Church podcast. 17 00:00:48,300 --> 00:00:51,940 One of the main benefits of being a part of the Heaven Earth 18 00:00:51,940 --> 00:00:57,980 Church community is our Sunday morning conversations taught by founding 19 00:00:57,980 --> 00:01:00,220 pastor Ross Stackhouse. 20 00:01:00,220 --> 00:01:04,900 You can watch and participate in the Sunday morning conversation 21 00:01:05,460 --> 00:01:13,940 this Sunday morning, 9:30am Eastern time at YouTube.com heavenerthchurch. 22 00:01:14,980 --> 00:01:19,860 The audio version of the Sunday morning conversation is available 23 00:01:19,860 --> 00:01:24,580 here on the podcast, which you can find at Apple Podcasts, Spotify 24 00:01:25,260 --> 00:01:32,220 and on the website, which is heavenearthchurch.org here now is 25 00:01:32,460 --> 00:01:36,460 Heaven Earth Pastor Ross Stackhouse along with his special 26 00:01:36,460 --> 00:01:43,500 guest, Amanda Ott with the message on Fire the Holy Spirit in 27 00:01:43,500 --> 00:01:49,900 1st Corinthians 12 from June 22, 2025. 28 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,120 My name is Ross. 29 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,320 I'm a pastor here at Heaven Earth Church. 30 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,600 I have sitting next to me Amanda Ott, who is the president 31 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,960 of the Johnson County Housing Coalition. 32 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,240 So I'm going to ask her a question in just a minute. 33 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:14,840 But in case you don't know, in 2021, our church launched a 501c3 34 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,720 nonprofit, which at the time was called Heaven Earth Spaces. 35 00:02:20,630 --> 00:02:25,390 We did it out of a pragmatic situation, but we also did it because 36 00:02:25,390 --> 00:02:28,990 we kept seeing this need throughout Johnson county. 37 00:02:28,990 --> 00:02:34,630 That affordable space is very hard to come by, both for families 38 00:02:35,830 --> 00:02:38,310 and nonprofit organizations that are growing. 39 00:02:39,030 --> 00:02:43,270 And so Heaven Earth Spaces owns this building. 40 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:50,400 We lease out the lower level for $6 per square foot per year. 41 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:59,360 The market rate is roughly at best like 18 to $35 per square foot 42 00:02:59,360 --> 00:02:59,920 per year. 43 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,200 So Justin Roebling will crunch up the math for you. 44 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,760 He'll get that going for you in just a minute. 45 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:06,960 Tell you how that works. 46 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,080 Oh, thank you. 47 00:03:11,310 --> 00:03:14,030 Yes, the United Methodist Church. 48 00:03:14,270 --> 00:03:16,270 I'm an ordained United Methodist elder. 49 00:03:16,830 --> 00:03:19,710 Heaven Earth Church is a United Methodist Church initiative. 50 00:03:21,790 --> 00:03:23,230 This church closed down. 51 00:03:23,630 --> 00:03:26,910 This congregation closed down in 2018, I think. 52 00:03:27,710 --> 00:03:30,230 And they approached us and said, hey, do you have any Interest 53 00:03:30,230 --> 00:03:30,750 in this. 54 00:03:31,390 --> 00:03:34,430 And at the time, the answer was a big fat no. 55 00:03:35,310 --> 00:03:37,390 We didn't even know if we were going to have a Sunday gathering 56 00:03:37,390 --> 00:03:38,190 when our church started. 57 00:03:39,190 --> 00:03:41,750 We thought we might just be a network of like house churches. 58 00:03:43,750 --> 00:03:46,070 The roof was leaking, the basement was flooding. 59 00:03:46,150 --> 00:03:48,750 The bats had lived here for ages. 60 00:03:48,750 --> 00:03:49,830 They still live here. 61 00:03:52,950 --> 00:03:54,150 We've tried those. 62 00:03:54,150 --> 00:03:55,670 They're smart creatures, man. 63 00:03:57,030 --> 00:03:58,950 Yeah, yeah, that's right. 64 00:03:58,950 --> 00:03:59,310 Yeah. 65 00:03:59,310 --> 00:04:02,070 Oh, come on, P.T. 66 00:04:03,510 --> 00:04:04,830 he said make them members. 67 00:04:04,830 --> 00:04:06,070 You'll never see them again. 68 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:08,560 That was nice. 69 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,000 That was good. 70 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,200 Good timing on that. 71 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,040 So we also own a house over here which is part of the work of 72 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,800 the Johnson County Housing Coalition. 73 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:25,960 We rent that also about 50% of market rate ish, depending on what 74 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:26,880 your estimates are. 75 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,360 And it's part of our residency rental program. 76 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,400 So Heaven Earth Spaces is now called Spaces for All. 77 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,200 And we started an initiative in partnership with Upstream called 78 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,920 the Johnson County Housing Coalition. 79 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,360 Amanda learned about seven minutes ago that I was going to ask 80 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,240 her to do this, so give her a round of applause. 81 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,880 What does the housing coalition do, Amanda? 82 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:57,920 Yeah, let's hear it. 83 00:05:03,130 --> 00:05:15,370 For the county is that we would see households financial abilities 84 00:05:15,690 --> 00:05:17,690 line up with their housing. 85 00:05:17,930 --> 00:05:25,210 So we're hoping and in a ideal world that they would be paying like 86 00:05:25,210 --> 00:05:28,330 25 to 30% of their income for housing. 87 00:05:28,410 --> 00:05:30,520 And that's not the case right now. 88 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:36,480 Some of our households pay like up to 50 to 60% of their annual 89 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,800 income to housing, which is just not feasible. 90 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:44,760 And it kind of leaves our community really unhealthy in that 91 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,280 they make really difficult decisions about what they're going 92 00:05:49,280 --> 00:05:51,240 to pay for and when they're going to pay for. 93 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,640 And you know, maybe they don't go, maybe they don't have medication 94 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,560 that month or maybe they can't fix their car or they're supplementing 95 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:05,700 with a lot of different pantries around the county. 96 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:09,940 And it's just not a. 97 00:06:11,220 --> 00:06:16,900 It's not a sustainable model for our community. 98 00:06:18,260 --> 00:06:18,740 Yeah. 99 00:06:18,740 --> 00:06:19,460 So we. 100 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:22,580 I wasn't looking for an answer. 101 00:06:24,420 --> 00:06:28,420 Part of what the coalition does is advocacy and just raising 102 00:06:28,420 --> 00:06:28,900 awareness. 103 00:06:28,900 --> 00:06:34,270 So Anda and Amanda has gone around to. 104 00:06:34,270 --> 00:06:37,670 I mean, different groups like Aspire, Johnson County. 105 00:06:39,110 --> 00:06:39,750 Who else? 106 00:06:40,150 --> 00:06:46,630 City officials, county officials, different community groups, 107 00:06:46,630 --> 00:06:50,430 Rotary, things like that. 108 00:06:50,430 --> 00:06:51,910 Just to sort of talk about it. 109 00:06:51,990 --> 00:06:55,990 People are generally under unaware if the problem doesn't affect 110 00:06:55,990 --> 00:06:56,270 them. 111 00:06:56,270 --> 00:06:56,630 But. 112 00:06:56,710 --> 00:06:57,110 Right. 113 00:06:57,110 --> 00:07:00,630 A lot of households that we're talking about are just graduated 114 00:07:01,810 --> 00:07:09,170 out of college or high school, single parents, those working in 115 00:07:09,170 --> 00:07:15,170 service, or even like police, fire, things like that. 116 00:07:16,610 --> 00:07:21,250 All our households that are are low to moderate income. 117 00:07:21,810 --> 00:07:22,290 Yeah. 118 00:07:22,290 --> 00:07:24,370 So we've spoken. 119 00:07:24,850 --> 00:07:25,610 Amanda has. 120 00:07:25,610 --> 00:07:27,570 I have also voter forms. 121 00:07:28,210 --> 00:07:32,570 And so one thing we often share is just a quick like how this 122 00:07:32,570 --> 00:07:33,450 affects our community. 123 00:07:34,570 --> 00:07:38,890 So the Indianapolis Metropolitan Planning Organization 124 00:07:38,970 --> 00:07:43,290 came up with a housing study in which they shared this data point 125 00:07:43,690 --> 00:07:48,330 that since I think it's 2020, I'll have to check on this house. 126 00:07:48,330 --> 00:07:51,930 The sale prices of homes went up 30% over 30. 127 00:07:52,730 --> 00:07:55,370 Rental prices for houses went up over 20%. 128 00:07:55,610 --> 00:07:59,590 And in that same time, wages went up less than 9%. 129 00:08:02,550 --> 00:08:04,190 Karen Fruits can help you. 130 00:08:04,190 --> 00:08:06,670 She's just recently retired as a calculus teacher. 131 00:08:06,670 --> 00:08:09,590 She can help you understand that ain't gonna work. 132 00:08:09,830 --> 00:08:10,470 Okay? 133 00:08:11,590 --> 00:08:12,870 The math doesn't math. 134 00:08:13,270 --> 00:08:17,190 And so affordable housing generally is defined as 30% of your 135 00:08:17,430 --> 00:08:18,070 income. 136 00:08:19,190 --> 00:08:20,150 So think of it this way. 137 00:08:20,150 --> 00:08:23,710 If you have a single parent household, single income household, 138 00:08:23,710 --> 00:08:30,240 or your household income is $60,000, all right, that means your, 139 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:35,280 your housing cannot cost you more than $1,500 a month. 140 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,680 Karen, did I get that right? 141 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:39,904 30%. 142 00:08:40,096 --> 00:08:41,440 30% of. 143 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,039 Yeah, let's see. 144 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:46,840 So if you made 5,000amonth, 30% would be 1500. 145 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:47,280 Yes. 146 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:48,160 Thank you. 147 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,800 How many, how many housing opportunities we got in Johnson county 148 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,280 for less than 1500? 149 00:08:56,990 --> 00:08:57,550 Not a lot. 150 00:08:58,270 --> 00:08:59,190 Not a lot at all. 151 00:08:59,190 --> 00:09:00,510 Maybe studios. 152 00:09:00,590 --> 00:09:01,430 Maybe studios. 153 00:09:01,430 --> 00:09:02,830 You can get a studio apartment. 154 00:09:03,310 --> 00:09:05,790 You and your three kids can be in a one bedroom apartment. 155 00:09:05,870 --> 00:09:12,870 So why on earth would would a person who belongs to Jesus want 156 00:09:12,870 --> 00:09:13,790 to do such a thing? 157 00:09:13,950 --> 00:09:16,190 Why would a church be interested in such a thing? 158 00:09:17,790 --> 00:09:19,150 Good question, Ross. 159 00:09:19,630 --> 00:09:20,830 I thought it was pretty good too. 160 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,800 Well, someone recently told me that the mission of this particular 161 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,920 church is to make a lasting impact in the community. 162 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:36,600 Because I didn't know what our mission was, but I would say it's 163 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:37,240 there every week. 164 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,040 A few days ago. 165 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:44,120 But generally speaking, I just think that as Christians, we are 166 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:51,910 just called to care for one another and that just isn't caring 167 00:09:51,910 --> 00:09:55,830 for our community because housing touches everything. 168 00:09:56,070 --> 00:10:03,030 So if you ask a teacher, you know about students, I've actually 169 00:10:03,030 --> 00:10:05,390 had a teacher come to me and she said, well, I've had this student 170 00:10:05,390 --> 00:10:07,590 and they've been in five different schools. 171 00:10:07,750 --> 00:10:11,990 And the reality of it is if they had stable housing, everything 172 00:10:11,990 --> 00:10:16,110 would look different for them because they would have been in one 173 00:10:16,110 --> 00:10:16,470 school. 174 00:10:17,590 --> 00:10:21,730 You know, they feel safe, they feel seen, and they can come to school 175 00:10:22,050 --> 00:10:27,250 and actually like participate in school life, whereas floating 176 00:10:27,250 --> 00:10:30,210 in and out, you know, it's hard for them to make friends, it's 177 00:10:30,210 --> 00:10:32,290 hard for them to stay focused on curriculum. 178 00:10:32,610 --> 00:10:35,010 Their curriculum can be different school to school. 179 00:10:35,490 --> 00:10:39,450 So I mean, there's just so many different reasons why we should 180 00:10:39,450 --> 00:10:42,810 care as a community, but especially as Christians, because 181 00:10:42,810 --> 00:10:45,010 we're just, you know, called to love each other. 182 00:10:46,060 --> 00:10:47,660 That's part of it, yep. 183 00:10:47,740 --> 00:10:51,580 And one of our three discipleship essentials here is grace 184 00:10:51,580 --> 00:10:52,500 and the great commands. 185 00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:55,100 At the core, the great commands are, number one, love the 186 00:10:55,100 --> 00:10:57,420 Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength. 187 00:10:57,740 --> 00:11:00,820 And the second is, like it, Jesus says to love your neighbor 188 00:11:00,820 --> 00:11:01,180 as. 189 00:11:02,620 --> 00:11:07,540 So that just really easily means practically, if I were in my 190 00:11:07,540 --> 00:11:11,700 neighbor's shoes, what kind of consideration and love would I hope 191 00:11:11,700 --> 00:11:12,300 to receive? 192 00:11:15,110 --> 00:11:15,430 You know? 193 00:11:15,430 --> 00:11:18,550 And so, like Amanda's saying, we're trying to think of our neighbors, 194 00:11:18,950 --> 00:11:21,910 trying to think of issues that maybe don't affect us, like, directly, 195 00:11:22,070 --> 00:11:23,110 though they do. 196 00:11:24,710 --> 00:11:26,470 So that's why we're about this work. 197 00:11:27,190 --> 00:11:32,110 So lastly, the Johnson County Housing Coalition and Spaces for 198 00:11:32,110 --> 00:11:35,270 all is doing Dancing with the Johnson County Stars. 199 00:11:37,110 --> 00:11:38,790 We got forced into it, but we're. 200 00:11:38,790 --> 00:11:40,310 We'Re, we're making a habit. 201 00:11:40,310 --> 00:11:43,190 We had a, we had a dancer who said, well, I'll dance for you. 202 00:11:43,190 --> 00:11:44,830 We're like, well, I guess we're in then. 203 00:11:45,150 --> 00:11:48,670 Yeah, so we are. 204 00:11:48,910 --> 00:11:52,950 So there is a purse bingo coming up. 205 00:11:52,950 --> 00:11:55,070 Purse bingos are a thing I'm finding out. 206 00:11:55,070 --> 00:11:55,790 Yeah, we. 207 00:11:55,950 --> 00:11:57,710 Ross and I knew nothing about it. 208 00:11:57,790 --> 00:12:00,830 He has, I'm assuming, zero purses, and I have one. 209 00:12:00,830 --> 00:12:03,230 I'm not against it, but I just haven't. 210 00:12:03,230 --> 00:12:04,510 I haven't gotten one yet. 211 00:12:05,030 --> 00:12:07,110 Maybe I will at the purse bingo. 212 00:12:07,750 --> 00:12:12,550 It is on August 7th, and it's $35 a person. 213 00:12:12,710 --> 00:12:14,150 We would love to have you. 214 00:12:14,870 --> 00:12:17,590 I've told that they're a lot of fun. 215 00:12:18,870 --> 00:12:23,470 If you don't love purses, there's also some baskets that we'll 216 00:12:23,470 --> 00:12:26,270 raffle off, which I think are probably going to be a lot more fun 217 00:12:26,270 --> 00:12:27,190 than the purses. 218 00:12:28,070 --> 00:12:31,310 We have some of our own people that have already donated some fun 219 00:12:31,310 --> 00:12:31,870 baskets. 220 00:12:31,870 --> 00:12:34,750 So you'll see some art and flowers and all kinds of fun things 221 00:12:34,750 --> 00:12:38,220 that will be raffled off each one. 222 00:12:38,220 --> 00:12:39,380 So we would love for you to come. 223 00:12:39,380 --> 00:12:41,060 It's at the Elks in Franklin. 224 00:12:43,300 --> 00:12:44,020 What else? 225 00:12:44,180 --> 00:12:46,100 There will be a taco bar. 226 00:12:47,380 --> 00:12:51,540 And so if you would like to have supper there, you can, can pay 227 00:12:51,540 --> 00:12:51,940 $10. 228 00:12:52,340 --> 00:12:57,860 And while supplies last, you have access to the yummy taco bar. 229 00:12:58,020 --> 00:12:59,140 We'd love to have you. 230 00:12:59,860 --> 00:13:00,420 Yep. 231 00:13:01,540 --> 00:13:02,780 Give Amanda a round of applause. 232 00:13:02,780 --> 00:13:04,380 That's pretty good for late notice. 233 00:13:04,380 --> 00:13:04,980 Good job. 234 00:13:06,420 --> 00:13:14,860 If you go to spacesforall.org spacesforall.org you can read, you 235 00:13:14,860 --> 00:13:16,660 can find out about our mission. 236 00:13:17,219 --> 00:13:21,220 But also there is everything you need to know on the home page 237 00:13:21,220 --> 00:13:22,220 about the purse. 238 00:13:22,220 --> 00:13:22,900 Bingo. 239 00:13:23,220 --> 00:13:27,540 And you can also stay up to speed on what we're doing, our fourth 240 00:13:27,780 --> 00:13:29,300 commute, fourth community. 241 00:13:29,380 --> 00:13:32,460 Core value is we want to bless the community through partnership. 242 00:13:32,460 --> 00:13:35,120 Spaces for all is one of our primary partnerships. 243 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,200 Let's pray and then have our Sunday conversation. 244 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,160 Speak to us, Lord. 245 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,120 We're listening. 246 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,240 Help us to hear, Help us to understand. 247 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,720 Help us to live inspired. 248 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:02,840 I ask that you ignite every person in here made in your image, 249 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:05,960 the name of Jesus. 250 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:07,000 Amen. 251 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,000 Forgot one thing. 252 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaking of being ignited, maybe you've had the smallest nudge 253 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,120 to take a big next step in your faith. 254 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,560 One of the ways to do that, a big way, a great way to do that, 255 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:21,560 is through baptism. 256 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,850 So today, right after our gathering, we're going to talk, like, 257 00:14:27,850 --> 00:14:29,970 why would you take that step? 258 00:14:32,370 --> 00:14:36,290 So maybe for you, you're going to be exploring, reaffirming your 259 00:14:36,290 --> 00:14:36,850 baptism. 260 00:14:37,170 --> 00:14:40,770 So you've been baptized before, but now you're at a place 261 00:14:40,770 --> 00:14:42,290 where you want to reclaim that. 262 00:14:43,250 --> 00:14:43,850 You want to. 263 00:14:43,850 --> 00:14:47,490 You want to walk in that more significantly more seriously. 264 00:14:48,050 --> 00:14:49,890 Maybe you've never been baptized. 265 00:14:49,970 --> 00:14:51,250 You don't know what it is. 266 00:14:51,810 --> 00:14:54,810 It's weird to you, like, why am I going to get dunked in water? 267 00:14:54,810 --> 00:14:55,850 That seems bizarre. 268 00:14:55,850 --> 00:14:58,770 Come talk about it right after church today. 269 00:14:59,250 --> 00:15:00,090 If you come. 270 00:15:00,090 --> 00:15:00,650 We're not. 271 00:15:00,650 --> 00:15:03,730 You're not signing up to, to get dunked up here. 272 00:15:03,730 --> 00:15:04,210 Okay. 273 00:15:04,530 --> 00:15:05,050 You just. 274 00:15:05,050 --> 00:15:07,010 You want to know more and that's good. 275 00:15:07,810 --> 00:15:08,210 So. 276 00:15:09,490 --> 00:15:09,970 Yeah. 277 00:15:10,130 --> 00:15:11,490 Did I miss any other announcements? 278 00:15:11,490 --> 00:15:12,850 I feel like I may have skipped something. 279 00:15:14,850 --> 00:15:16,130 No, we good. 280 00:15:18,460 --> 00:15:20,780 There's a game tonight too, I think, right? 281 00:15:23,900 --> 00:15:25,100 It's a big announcement. 282 00:15:25,100 --> 00:15:26,300 Let's go, Pacers. 283 00:15:29,100 --> 00:15:33,220 Last week I talked about how one of the things I think we're struggling 284 00:15:33,220 --> 00:15:36,220 with in Christianity in our neck of the woods is that we've tried 285 00:15:36,220 --> 00:15:38,220 so hard to organize it all. 286 00:15:40,300 --> 00:15:44,110 One of our, like, golden calves, our idols, the things we 287 00:15:44,110 --> 00:15:48,470 want so bad in Christianity is absolute certainty about everything. 288 00:15:51,110 --> 00:15:52,950 Some of the churches I was a part of was. 289 00:15:53,110 --> 00:15:56,910 It was like, if you weren't absolutely certain about these list 290 00:15:56,910 --> 00:16:00,390 of doctrines, then you weren't actually a Christian. 291 00:16:01,110 --> 00:16:04,390 You needed help, you needed prayer, right? 292 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:09,270 But when I look at the very first movement of Jesus followers, 293 00:16:10,770 --> 00:16:15,410 it was marked by a lot of disorganization, not of like the 294 00:16:16,450 --> 00:16:18,770 really bad kind that makes you feel anxious. 295 00:16:20,050 --> 00:16:22,690 Some of you are very organized planners. 296 00:16:22,690 --> 00:16:23,610 How many of you in the room? 297 00:16:23,610 --> 00:16:24,690 You're like, I'm a planner, man. 298 00:16:24,690 --> 00:16:25,889 I gotta have it all together. 299 00:16:27,170 --> 00:16:29,410 How many of you in here love spontaneity? 300 00:16:29,410 --> 00:16:31,170 Like, you just love to go with the flow. 301 00:16:31,170 --> 00:16:33,250 Do you see how that's 50, 50 in here, about. 302 00:16:34,690 --> 00:16:37,180 Okay, 50, 50, right. 303 00:16:39,100 --> 00:16:43,180 Imagine how the first followers of Jesus felt all the time. 304 00:16:43,740 --> 00:16:46,220 It was like waking up and where are we going today? 305 00:16:47,660 --> 00:16:49,660 And the first movement was like that. 306 00:16:51,020 --> 00:16:53,900 The only promise that Jesus gave them. 307 00:16:55,580 --> 00:17:02,190 He said, like, I will give you this Holy Spirit, the presence of 308 00:17:02,190 --> 00:17:07,670 God inside you, who will lead you and guide you to do the things 309 00:17:07,670 --> 00:17:08,950 I'm calling you to do. 310 00:17:10,630 --> 00:17:12,470 Now, some of the planners in the room. 311 00:17:12,470 --> 00:17:14,710 And I love you, you help me out a lot. 312 00:17:15,430 --> 00:17:17,030 I'm more of a spontaneity guy. 313 00:17:17,030 --> 00:17:17,590 Do you know. 314 00:17:17,750 --> 00:17:22,830 Did you know poor Brandon last week was leading music? 315 00:17:22,830 --> 00:17:25,230 And it was just like, I don't know what songs we're going to do 316 00:17:25,230 --> 00:17:25,510 today. 317 00:17:25,670 --> 00:17:26,550 We're going to see. 318 00:17:27,700 --> 00:17:28,420 And Joanna. 319 00:17:28,420 --> 00:17:30,420 Sorry, yes. 320 00:17:31,540 --> 00:17:34,740 I think I probably said Brandon because Joanna and I are 321 00:17:34,740 --> 00:17:36,780 a little more practiced together in that spontaneity. 322 00:17:36,780 --> 00:17:41,460 Brandon has never been late once to music practice and stuff. 323 00:17:41,460 --> 00:17:43,940 So this poor guy. 324 00:17:46,180 --> 00:17:49,060 But Jesus says, like, I'm going to give you the Holy Spirit, 325 00:17:50,660 --> 00:17:53,300 who's going to lead you in what you are to do. 326 00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:59,160 And rightly, one of them could have said, so what's the plan, Jesus? 327 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:01,560 And then he left. 328 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:08,960 No playbook, no plan, no strategy, except what he had shown 329 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,080 him for them for the three previous years. 330 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,400 How many of you are going to be good with that? 331 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:17,400 They weren't. 332 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:19,480 They weren't either. 333 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,160 They had to learn this discipline. 334 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,800 I call it the Cornelius principle because of a story in Acts, 335 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:31,960 chapter 10 of Getting Just enough vision for just the next step. 336 00:18:35,559 --> 00:18:38,360 Just enough vision for just the next step. 337 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,720 Many of us want enough vision for the next 30 steps. 338 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:44,600 Am I right? 339 00:18:46,370 --> 00:18:47,970 Show me the next 30 steps. 340 00:18:48,290 --> 00:18:49,330 I need that. 341 00:18:50,050 --> 00:18:51,170 I must have it. 342 00:18:52,210 --> 00:18:54,930 And sometimes we get that in our walk with Jesus. 343 00:18:54,930 --> 00:18:57,770 Sometimes we get a vision of where we're going to end up in, like, 344 00:18:57,770 --> 00:18:58,370 five years. 345 00:18:58,690 --> 00:18:59,570 We get that. 346 00:18:59,650 --> 00:19:01,730 We get a sense of how we're going to get there. 347 00:19:02,210 --> 00:19:05,010 A lot of times, though, we don't. 348 00:19:06,050 --> 00:19:09,970 We get just enough vision for just the next step. 349 00:19:11,100 --> 00:19:15,100 And Jesus promises that not only will we get that vision for 350 00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:19,620 the next step, that we will get the very person of God dwelling 351 00:19:19,620 --> 00:19:25,900 inside of us to help us see that next step and help to take it. 352 00:19:25,900 --> 00:19:27,099 Help us to take it. 353 00:19:27,260 --> 00:19:30,300 So I'm going to tell you a story, and I'm going to ask you a 354 00:19:30,300 --> 00:19:31,180 question in a minute. 355 00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:33,100 You got to help with the sermon today. 356 00:19:33,100 --> 00:19:33,980 You know the drill. 357 00:19:35,020 --> 00:19:38,100 So a version of that for us was some of, you know this story, 358 00:19:38,100 --> 00:19:40,260 if you know it Sorry. 359 00:19:40,260 --> 00:19:42,060 Not sorry, because it's cool. 360 00:19:42,140 --> 00:19:43,660 It's a very cool God story. 361 00:19:44,780 --> 00:19:51,340 In 2018, when we got here, we, my wife and at the time, one kid 362 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:53,420 got here to start the church. 363 00:19:54,540 --> 00:19:59,380 Our launch team was supposed to have a meeting on a Monday night. 364 00:19:59,380 --> 00:20:02,940 I think it was at Taxman Brewery. 365 00:20:04,060 --> 00:20:08,290 Bunch of degenerates going to have a church meeting and drink. 366 00:20:08,290 --> 00:20:08,890 No, we weren't. 367 00:20:08,890 --> 00:20:09,370 I'm just kidding. 368 00:20:09,370 --> 00:20:09,770 We weren't. 369 00:20:09,770 --> 00:20:10,570 We didn't plan to drink. 370 00:20:10,570 --> 00:20:11,810 We just needed a place to meet. 371 00:20:12,130 --> 00:20:16,970 Okay, well, Tax man, at that time, I don't know if they still 372 00:20:16,970 --> 00:20:19,650 are closed on Mondays. 373 00:20:20,850 --> 00:20:24,210 And so just enough vision for just the next step. 374 00:20:24,930 --> 00:20:31,170 We went over to this place nearby, Johnson's Barbecue Shack, 375 00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:34,070 and we met there. 376 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:37,030 And I started talking with the owner. 377 00:20:37,430 --> 00:20:40,390 I was like, hey, if. 378 00:20:41,190 --> 00:20:45,350 If we were to, like, want to need a place to gather on Sundays, 379 00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:46,870 could we meet here? 380 00:20:47,910 --> 00:20:48,710 He said, sure. 381 00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:51,990 How much would you charge us for that? 382 00:20:51,990 --> 00:20:52,550 Nothing. 383 00:20:53,350 --> 00:20:55,750 Oh, well, that's. 384 00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:56,630 That's a good price. 385 00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:57,350 It's a deal. 386 00:20:59,110 --> 00:21:00,710 So that started this relationship. 387 00:21:02,150 --> 00:21:04,510 Over time, I got to know. 388 00:21:04,510 --> 00:21:09,550 I would go there all the time and just talk with the servers there. 389 00:21:09,550 --> 00:21:11,310 Just enough vision for just the next step. 390 00:21:11,310 --> 00:21:13,270 Sometimes I'd wake up on a Tuesday and be like, I'm going to 391 00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:13,989 Johnson's today. 392 00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:15,350 That's going to be my office today. 393 00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:20,470 And we got to know them, built relationships with them. 394 00:21:20,790 --> 00:21:22,950 We started hosting trivia nights there. 395 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,520 Four benefit trivia nights. 396 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,040 So we'd have Harry Potter trivia night at Johnson's barbecue. 397 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,960 We'd have a dine to donate there, featuring a local nonprofit. 398 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,480 We'd give the nonprofit executive director more time to speak 399 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,319 than me, which you guys know is hard for me, right? 400 00:21:39,319 --> 00:21:40,240 I like to talk. 401 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:50,000 Did you know we got a message from the owner once who said, thank 402 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:50,280 you. 403 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:56,500 You guys helped us to pay our payroll this month when their staff 404 00:21:56,580 --> 00:22:00,420 had a tragedy, a huge tragedy. 405 00:22:01,540 --> 00:22:04,580 The first call they made was to us. 406 00:22:08,020 --> 00:22:11,180 And as part of one of our Sunday gatherings there, we had. 407 00:22:11,180 --> 00:22:12,980 We started have breakfast at Johnson's. 408 00:22:13,940 --> 00:22:18,100 We had a celebration of life as a part of our breakfast there 409 00:22:18,100 --> 00:22:18,660 that day. 410 00:22:20,290 --> 00:22:27,370 We met people there who in the last five months, six months, have 411 00:22:27,370 --> 00:22:29,730 shown back up in the life of our church. 412 00:22:32,050 --> 00:22:34,450 And somebody who works there. 413 00:22:36,450 --> 00:22:36,850 Hi. 414 00:22:36,850 --> 00:22:45,050 Maggie is considering reaffirming her baptism by just getting 415 00:22:45,050 --> 00:22:49,250 enough vision for just the next step and trusting in that holy 416 00:22:49,250 --> 00:22:51,600 Spirit and going with the Holy Spirit. 417 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:58,720 Wild, magnificent, wonderful things happened in that relationship. 418 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,760 So here's my question to you. 419 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,160 Now we got a group here. 420 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:03,840 Remember that? 421 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:04,760 When's that happened? 422 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,320 For you when you took. 423 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,320 You listened to the nudge of the Holy Spirit, got just enough 424 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,440 vision for just the next step, and followed it. 425 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,120 When's that happen for you? 426 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,800 Can you think of a time? 427 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,360 There you go. 428 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,440 That is what I'm looking for, by the way. 429 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,120 Yeah, good story. 430 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:32,240 You got just enough vision, a nudge from God for just the next 431 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:32,520 step. 432 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:38,080 You took it, and it ended up being a great blessing to you. 433 00:23:41,210 --> 00:23:43,210 Yeah, well, as they. 434 00:23:43,210 --> 00:23:44,170 No, I'm not going to do it. 435 00:23:44,170 --> 00:23:45,050 I'm not going to do it. 436 00:23:45,530 --> 00:23:46,370 I'm not going to do it. 437 00:23:46,370 --> 00:23:46,890 Evan. 438 00:23:46,970 --> 00:23:50,490 All right, all right. 439 00:23:50,490 --> 00:23:52,410 What else, Jill? 440 00:23:54,250 --> 00:24:00,970 A little bit longer story and kind of a big one, but my lady husband, 441 00:24:01,290 --> 00:24:05,250 he lived on the golf course, and there were only three full houses. 442 00:24:05,250 --> 00:24:08,540 I ran at times, as I did a whole street narrative. 443 00:24:10,460 --> 00:24:15,340 Said whenever anybody started building on either side of us, we 444 00:24:15,340 --> 00:24:15,660 would. 445 00:24:16,780 --> 00:24:20,380 We would find land, build a house, etc. 446 00:24:21,180 --> 00:24:27,420 I lost him in October of 2019, and the pandemic obviously started 447 00:24:27,420 --> 00:24:28,380 shortly after that. 448 00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:34,220 And right at the same time, the stakes for building went up on 449 00:24:34,220 --> 00:24:36,460 not just one side of our house, but both sides of our house, 450 00:24:36,460 --> 00:24:37,420 like, at the same time. 451 00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:42,790 And so I'm like, as a physician trying to practice in the 452 00:24:42,790 --> 00:24:47,670 pandemic on the front lines, had lost my husband four months before. 453 00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:52,110 And I got a call from a friend who's a realtor, and she's like, 454 00:24:52,110 --> 00:24:53,429 hey, that piece of land. 455 00:24:53,429 --> 00:24:54,150 Thank you, angel. 456 00:24:54,150 --> 00:24:58,710 With that years and years ago, was sold, but it's not on the market 457 00:24:58,710 --> 00:24:59,910 yet, but it's for sale again. 458 00:24:59,910 --> 00:25:01,070 I'm like, are you interested? 459 00:25:01,070 --> 00:25:04,270 And I was like, probably the last thing I need to be doing right 460 00:25:04,270 --> 00:25:06,350 now is buying a piece of land. 461 00:25:06,350 --> 00:25:08,470 Like, we were lucky to get through the day at that point. 462 00:25:08,550 --> 00:25:11,030 I was like, you know, I feel like I'm afraid about it. 463 00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:13,750 I was like, I feel like this is what I should do. 464 00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:14,470 I'm going to buy it. 465 00:25:14,790 --> 00:25:17,110 If, you know, I chicken out, I can sell it. 466 00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:18,310 You know, I'm not committing. 467 00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:24,030 So I buy it, and then probably a week later, they start moving equipment 468 00:25:24,030 --> 00:25:25,510 in on both sides of our house. 469 00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:30,470 And I realize I have two trees there that I'm not going to leave 470 00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:31,190 that house without. 471 00:25:31,270 --> 00:25:35,030 And I'm like, okay, if I'm ever going to get these trees moved, 472 00:25:35,030 --> 00:25:37,630 like, I have to do it now because we're going to lose access. 473 00:25:37,790 --> 00:25:42,270 And so reach out to a builder who said, I don't know anything about 474 00:25:42,270 --> 00:25:42,550 trees. 475 00:25:42,550 --> 00:25:45,230 I said, I don't want to talk about house plans yet, but I need 476 00:25:45,230 --> 00:25:47,790 to have somebody tell me if these trees can be moved. 477 00:25:47,870 --> 00:25:50,590 Because if not, I'm like, I'll sell the land. 478 00:25:50,590 --> 00:25:52,750 I'm not leaving this house without these two trees. 479 00:25:52,990 --> 00:25:54,230 And so he's like, I don't know. 480 00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:54,550 He's like. 481 00:25:54,550 --> 00:25:57,150 But I'll, you know, he's like, I know somebody that does, and I'll 482 00:25:57,150 --> 00:25:57,830 send him to you. 483 00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:58,680 If I was at him. 484 00:26:00,910 --> 00:26:02,270 And he moved my two trees. 485 00:26:02,350 --> 00:26:07,470 And over that next year, when the pandemic was raging and we couldn't 486 00:26:08,270 --> 00:26:12,790 really be in person, really with anybody, we were able to meet 487 00:26:12,790 --> 00:26:17,070 a new property and even put in the driveway so we could get the 488 00:26:17,070 --> 00:26:21,430 trees in there and just like, all of those things and build that 489 00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:22,270 relationship. 490 00:26:22,270 --> 00:26:22,670 And. 491 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,680 And now there's a two trees flower farm also, right? 492 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:29,160 Yeah. 493 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,120 If you haven't heard Jill's two trees story, you should hear 494 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:32,360 it. 495 00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:34,160 It's certainly a God story. 496 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,400 That's magnificent. 497 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,080 Thank you for sharing, Jill. 498 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:38,400 Anybody else? 499 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,280 You got just enough vision, Angela. 500 00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:43,920 So much vision about taking the next step. 501 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,920 But for me, I'm. 502 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,280 I tend to be, like, an obstructionist, so it's like, enough 503 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,640 vision to, like, get out of the way. 504 00:26:50,750 --> 00:26:54,550 And I've told people, a lot of people, this story about how I didn't 505 00:26:54,550 --> 00:26:55,710 want to be a pastor's wife. 506 00:26:56,590 --> 00:27:00,670 And, like, I didn't marry Ross knowing that he was going to be a 507 00:27:00,670 --> 00:27:06,350 pastor, but when his sister floated his first pastoral opportunity, 508 00:27:06,430 --> 00:27:09,390 she's also a pastor, so she, like, let him know about this opportunity. 509 00:27:10,350 --> 00:27:16,430 He had to do a practice sermon as part of his application process. 510 00:27:17,610 --> 00:27:21,610 And he had never, like, we'd been together at that point in time, 511 00:27:21,610 --> 00:27:23,530 I don't know, like, seven years, including dating. 512 00:27:23,690 --> 00:27:26,170 And I'd never seen him public speak ever. 513 00:27:26,730 --> 00:27:30,650 And I went to his practice sermon along with basically the entire 514 00:27:30,650 --> 00:27:32,090 congregation at the other church. 515 00:27:32,570 --> 00:27:36,330 And he was a really talented speaker, which I felt. 516 00:27:36,330 --> 00:27:37,690 I feel is a gift from God. 517 00:27:37,850 --> 00:27:42,740 So I felt like I needed to, like, acquiesce and. 518 00:27:43,460 --> 00:27:46,860 And then it led to, like, this and all of these other beautiful 519 00:27:46,860 --> 00:27:49,860 things at our old church, too, which is really cool. 520 00:27:50,900 --> 00:27:52,820 Sorry for that. 521 00:27:55,060 --> 00:27:55,700 It is. 522 00:27:59,540 --> 00:27:59,980 Yeah. 523 00:27:59,980 --> 00:28:00,500 So I. 524 00:28:00,820 --> 00:28:01,300 It was. 525 00:28:01,460 --> 00:28:04,180 This is such a cliche story, but it's totally true. 526 00:28:04,660 --> 00:28:08,100 When I said I was going to go to grad school, Angela, like, cleared 527 00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:08,500 with me. 528 00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:09,620 Hey, you're not going to go. 529 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,400 This isn't ending up in a pastor thing. 530 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:12,640 Right. 531 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:13,760 And I'm like, yeah, right. 532 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:15,520 No way. 533 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,400 Angel was raised Baptist, which meant that Angela should be 534 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,640 playing the piano also on Sundays as well. 535 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,760 So get over here and do something for us, would you? 536 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:25,520 Yeah. 537 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,800 She shared that. 538 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:28,080 She was there. 539 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,840 I preached the first sermon I'd ever preached. 540 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,320 I never preached, never took a preaching class, anything. 541 00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:33,920 Yeah. 542 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:34,800 Anybody else? 543 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:38,150 Angie, Audition sermon thing? 544 00:28:38,150 --> 00:28:38,550 Yeah. 545 00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:43,110 And I'm here because of that very first time. 546 00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:44,390 I was best gifted. 547 00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:52,950 And I think that that is what it's led my heart to continue this 548 00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:55,950 faith journey and live well. 549 00:28:55,950 --> 00:28:57,830 Angie, you've been a huge blessing to us. 550 00:28:58,150 --> 00:28:58,950 Angelica. 551 00:28:58,950 --> 00:29:03,550 Angie comes from Zionsville every Sunday and gives so much to 552 00:29:03,550 --> 00:29:04,150 our church. 553 00:29:04,790 --> 00:29:07,830 So I'm going to transition on that point because my gifts are getting 554 00:29:08,050 --> 00:29:08,410 highlighted. 555 00:29:08,410 --> 00:29:09,650 So let me highlight yours. 556 00:29:09,730 --> 00:29:10,370 Okay. 557 00:29:11,170 --> 00:29:13,930 Let's get me out of the spotlight for a minute and get you 558 00:29:13,930 --> 00:29:15,730 in the spotlight for the rest of the time. 559 00:29:15,810 --> 00:29:16,370 Okay. 560 00:29:19,330 --> 00:29:20,970 Let me set the stage for scripture. 561 00:29:20,970 --> 00:29:21,530 I'm going to just. 562 00:29:21,530 --> 00:29:23,130 I'm going to walk you through very quickly. 563 00:29:23,130 --> 00:29:23,650 Okay. 564 00:29:27,010 --> 00:29:29,570 Corinth is a city in Greece. 565 00:29:29,810 --> 00:29:30,450 You good? 566 00:29:30,610 --> 00:29:31,010 You. 567 00:29:31,010 --> 00:29:32,210 You still with me, right? 568 00:29:33,170 --> 00:29:35,010 Ancient Corinth was like. 569 00:29:36,530 --> 00:29:41,650 I think I've said this before, like Las Vegas or maybe New York 570 00:29:41,650 --> 00:29:43,010 City, something like that. 571 00:29:44,050 --> 00:29:48,370 A lot of trade coming through because there's Greece, mainland 572 00:29:48,370 --> 00:29:51,209 Greece, southern Greece, and right in between them, there's this 573 00:29:51,209 --> 00:29:52,770 thing called an isthmus. 574 00:29:56,130 --> 00:29:57,730 And right there is Corinth. 575 00:29:58,210 --> 00:30:02,540 So a lot of trade came through right there from west to east. 576 00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:05,420 So this was a happening place. 577 00:30:09,820 --> 00:30:10,860 Happening place. 578 00:30:11,420 --> 00:30:13,260 And it's one of the first places. 579 00:30:13,260 --> 00:30:15,980 This guy by the name of Paul, you want to talk about being led 580 00:30:15,980 --> 00:30:16,899 by the Holy Spirit. 581 00:30:16,899 --> 00:30:19,420 This guy was persecuting the Jesus movement. 582 00:30:20,060 --> 00:30:21,100 Watched and. 583 00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:26,300 And was happy as the very first martyr was killed in his presence 584 00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:27,060 at his feet. 585 00:30:27,060 --> 00:30:28,540 He was like, okay, I'm doing a good job. 586 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,080 This is great. 587 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:30,720 Good job. 588 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,280 Paul. 589 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:39,800 Saul, he met Jesus and gave up everything to go and plant churches 590 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,520 in whose legacy we now sit. 591 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,480 And one of those communities was in Corinth. 592 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,320 And so they were dealing with a lot of challenges. 593 00:30:51,320 --> 00:31:00,560 This community, think Las Vegas, New York City, people trying 594 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,840 to be a unified community following Jesus. 595 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,120 Oh, in a time when you weren't supposed to be thinking, anybody 596 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,920 else is Lord except the emperor. 597 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,640 One of their biggest issues, though, was that they were dividing 598 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,640 into these camps, and the one camp thought the other camp was the 599 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:22,080 devil. 600 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,360 It's a weird concept. 601 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,520 We've never experienced this. 602 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:24,800 Right. 603 00:31:25,750 --> 00:31:26,830 Do you know what I'm talking about? 604 00:31:26,830 --> 00:31:31,350 Where, like, two camps divide and one camp thinks the other camp 605 00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:32,310 is Satan. 606 00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:34,230 Have you ever heard of such a thing? 607 00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:35,750 You'll have to use your imagination. 608 00:31:36,390 --> 00:31:36,950 Okay. 609 00:31:37,910 --> 00:31:39,670 They were splitting into different. 610 00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:45,070 The church began, and then five minutes later, people were splitting 611 00:31:45,070 --> 00:31:49,750 up into groups, and they Were going that other camp over there. 612 00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:53,750 Those people eat food, sacrifice to idols. 613 00:31:54,730 --> 00:31:55,610 Oh, my God. 614 00:31:56,650 --> 00:32:01,210 Because they would go to the marketplace and the folks, the pagans 615 00:32:01,290 --> 00:32:05,530 who had sacrificed certain things and offered it to Apollo, 616 00:32:05,530 --> 00:32:06,930 they would sell it in the marketplace. 617 00:32:06,930 --> 00:32:10,250 And then it'd be like, Billy Schwerkinson, who would walk by in 618 00:32:10,250 --> 00:32:13,930 the marketplace, he'd see some meat for sale and be like, that sounds 619 00:32:13,930 --> 00:32:14,050 good. 620 00:32:14,050 --> 00:32:15,410 I'm gonna have that for supper tonight. 621 00:32:15,410 --> 00:32:15,850 Boom. 622 00:32:16,010 --> 00:32:18,850 And then there would be this other Christian who'd be like, did 623 00:32:18,850 --> 00:32:20,490 you guys see what Billy just did? 624 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,680 So they were dealing with that. 625 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,480 They were dealing with some other things that I won't go into 626 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,960 detail with very much. 627 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,800 Reality TV show kind of stuff. 628 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,720 Use your imagination. 629 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,600 Relationships that shouldn't be crossing lines. 630 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:35,480 They were crossing them. 631 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:35,800 All right. 632 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,200 Did I tell you it was Las Vegas? 633 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,120 But they were splitting up into these groups and everybody thought 634 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,200 were the right ones. 635 00:32:47,450 --> 00:32:52,730 And so Paul wrote this chapter I'm going to read to you in response 636 00:32:52,730 --> 00:32:53,610 to help them out. 637 00:32:53,850 --> 00:32:56,570 He wrote them a letter after he had moved on. 638 00:32:57,930 --> 00:33:00,930 I've told you, NT Wright says when we read parts of the New Testament, 639 00:33:00,930 --> 00:33:03,290 it's like we're stealing somebody's mail. 640 00:33:03,930 --> 00:33:06,490 Which I think is a felony, isn't it? 641 00:33:06,730 --> 00:33:07,850 Is that a felony? 642 00:33:08,490 --> 00:33:12,410 So, all right, you can say the guy at church made us all felons 643 00:33:12,410 --> 00:33:12,650 today. 644 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:16,240 Sounds weird. 645 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,560 Why is he talking about this? 646 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,880 Brothers and sisters, I don't want you to be ignorant about spiritual 647 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,200 gifts. 648 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,480 Why would he bring this up with all the things they're struggling 649 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:25,800 with? 650 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:34,080 Why is this the play with all the issues they're dealing with? 651 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,000 Why close that? 652 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,560 He's starting to end the letter. 653 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:37,560 Why would you go here? 654 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,440 I don't want you to be ignorant about spiritual gifts. 655 00:33:42,420 --> 00:33:44,820 Why is that the medicine that these people need to take? 656 00:33:50,260 --> 00:33:51,700 Well, good news. 657 00:33:52,180 --> 00:33:53,380 We're going to figure that out. 658 00:33:55,220 --> 00:33:58,300 You know that you, when you were Gentiles, people who didn't 659 00:33:58,300 --> 00:34:00,380 belong to the tribes of Israel, if you don't know what that 660 00:34:00,380 --> 00:34:03,860 is, you're often misled by false gods that can't even speak. 661 00:34:06,990 --> 00:34:09,190 So that's a little bit of like, hey, can you remember where 662 00:34:09,190 --> 00:34:09,950 you came from? 663 00:34:12,110 --> 00:34:14,590 You guys promoted yourselves awfully quickly. 664 00:34:17,230 --> 00:34:20,430 Five minutes after you started following Jesus, you promoted yourself, 665 00:34:21,949 --> 00:34:22,510 huh? 666 00:34:25,790 --> 00:34:30,790 So I want to make it clear to you that no one says Jesus is cursed 667 00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:32,230 when speaking by God's spirit. 668 00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:35,470 And no one can say Jesus is Lord except by the. 669 00:34:37,139 --> 00:34:37,819 This is your turn. 670 00:34:37,819 --> 00:34:38,339 Okay. 671 00:34:38,979 --> 00:34:42,099 And no one can say Jesus is Lord except by the. 672 00:34:44,259 --> 00:34:45,539 Why is he saying this? 673 00:34:47,699 --> 00:34:50,579 Why is this the medicine that they need to take in. 674 00:34:54,419 --> 00:34:56,419 They're splitting up into factions. 675 00:34:57,379 --> 00:34:59,059 They're being self righteous. 676 00:34:59,939 --> 00:35:03,179 They're crossing lines that you really shouldn't be crossing, 677 00:35:03,179 --> 00:35:03,859 like, ever. 678 00:35:06,660 --> 00:35:08,820 They're playing favorites in their communities. 679 00:35:10,740 --> 00:35:12,180 Why is this the medicine? 680 00:35:15,140 --> 00:35:16,180 I'll keep reading. 681 00:35:18,340 --> 00:35:21,140 There are different spiritual gifts, but the same. 682 00:35:22,740 --> 00:35:23,700 This is your turn. 683 00:35:23,860 --> 00:35:26,180 There are different spiritual gifts, but the same. 684 00:35:28,260 --> 00:35:30,260 And they're different ministries in the same. 685 00:35:33,180 --> 00:35:34,940 And there are different activities but. 686 00:35:34,940 --> 00:35:38,940 But the same God who produces all of them in. 687 00:35:41,020 --> 00:35:42,060 Oh, here it is. 688 00:35:46,459 --> 00:35:50,220 A demonstration of the Spirit is given to. 689 00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:53,020 For the. 690 00:35:54,460 --> 00:35:57,260 A demonstration of the spirit is given to. 691 00:35:59,460 --> 00:35:59,940 For the. 692 00:36:01,540 --> 00:36:03,940 Do you fit into the category of each person? 693 00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:06,500 Do you? 694 00:36:07,380 --> 00:36:07,860 I don't. 695 00:36:07,860 --> 00:36:10,900 I'm not a grammar expert, but I think that would mean. 696 00:36:11,540 --> 00:36:15,700 I think each person means like all of you, I think. 697 00:36:17,220 --> 00:36:17,860 Pretty sure. 698 00:36:20,660 --> 00:36:22,820 Why is this the medicine that they need to take? 699 00:36:24,910 --> 00:36:25,470 Here's why. 700 00:36:26,270 --> 00:36:28,670 For the story that Angela just told about me. 701 00:36:29,470 --> 00:36:33,150 The first sermon I ever preached, I could have walked away 702 00:36:33,230 --> 00:36:33,870 from that. 703 00:36:34,990 --> 00:36:38,190 I could have walked away after I preached my first sermon ever. 704 00:36:38,270 --> 00:36:39,750 No preaching classes. 705 00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:43,070 Oh, man, I'm an awfully smart fella. 706 00:36:43,710 --> 00:36:44,830 I took Greek. 707 00:36:45,310 --> 00:36:46,590 I can read ancient Greek. 708 00:36:46,590 --> 00:36:47,150 Look at me. 709 00:36:47,230 --> 00:36:47,870 Oh, man. 710 00:36:48,510 --> 00:36:50,670 Man, I'm actually pretty good public speaker. 711 00:36:51,490 --> 00:36:52,850 I could gain a pretty good following. 712 00:36:53,410 --> 00:36:55,970 I could have a private jet in like 10 years. 713 00:36:57,090 --> 00:37:02,130 Could start a TV ministry, get a jet, start flying around to preach 714 00:37:02,130 --> 00:37:03,810 the gospel to the nations. 715 00:37:04,770 --> 00:37:08,290 Yes, I could walk away like that. 716 00:37:10,130 --> 00:37:12,930 Or I could. 717 00:37:14,930 --> 00:37:17,850 I could walk away as I did. 718 00:37:19,050 --> 00:37:24,810 I went home and I was like this, like, how could this be? 719 00:37:27,690 --> 00:37:29,290 How has this happened to me? 720 00:37:32,570 --> 00:37:34,090 How can I preach like that? 721 00:37:37,690 --> 00:37:39,290 How could this be happening to me? 722 00:37:39,290 --> 00:37:41,050 I think I'm about to work in a church. 723 00:37:41,770 --> 00:37:43,050 I don't like church. 724 00:37:44,980 --> 00:37:46,980 Church makes me so frustrated. 725 00:37:51,460 --> 00:37:54,500 I definitely don't want to work in one of these institutional 726 00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:55,140 churches. 727 00:37:55,620 --> 00:37:56,820 I don't want to do that. 728 00:37:57,620 --> 00:37:59,660 But how was I able to preach like that? 729 00:37:59,660 --> 00:38:05,580 Today, a demonstration of the Spirit is given to each person for 730 00:38:05,580 --> 00:38:06,500 the common good. 731 00:38:06,740 --> 00:38:12,390 I could walk away with this pride, like I did that, or I could 732 00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:17,550 walk away with the humbling understanding that God did that in 733 00:38:17,550 --> 00:38:18,910 me and through me. 734 00:38:21,070 --> 00:38:24,710 I asked you, I told you this story about, like, for the first 735 00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:29,270 Christians, there was life before they caught the fire of the 736 00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:32,190 Holy Spirit and life after they would. 737 00:38:32,190 --> 00:38:34,110 They had been with Jesus for three years. 738 00:38:34,750 --> 00:38:36,190 They weren't on fire yet. 739 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,800 There was life before they met Jesus and life after that is true. 740 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,800 But just because they had encountered Jesus and followed him, 741 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,040 they weren't on fire by the Holy Spirit. 742 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,320 Yet that happened in a story in Acts, chapter two. 743 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,400 It didn't mean they didn't have anything. 744 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,120 Remember this? 745 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,160 That gone it. 746 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,080 Sorry, Brandon. 747 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,160 We'll fix it in a minute. 748 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:06,410 All of us born like this, all of us have the image of God inside. 749 00:39:07,450 --> 00:39:08,970 A flickering flame of God. 750 00:39:08,970 --> 00:39:09,850 And it is good. 751 00:39:11,370 --> 00:39:14,210 Sometimes you're doing God's stuff and you don't even know it. 752 00:39:14,210 --> 00:39:15,530 And you're not even aware of it. 753 00:39:15,530 --> 00:39:18,250 And you're doing it because you have God's image inside you. 754 00:39:19,850 --> 00:39:21,210 You don't even know it yet. 755 00:39:22,570 --> 00:39:23,450 This is good. 756 00:39:24,170 --> 00:39:25,770 This is what we're made for. 757 00:39:26,250 --> 00:39:32,740 To be completely on fire with the very person of God dwelling in 758 00:39:32,740 --> 00:39:35,780 us, igniting these gifts that are in there. 759 00:39:36,660 --> 00:39:38,020 They are in there. 760 00:39:39,700 --> 00:39:43,300 That's what I experienced in January of 2012. 761 00:39:43,780 --> 00:39:46,180 I didn't even know that you could live like this. 762 00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:47,940 Didn't even know it. 763 00:39:48,420 --> 00:39:49,420 And then I knew it. 764 00:39:49,420 --> 00:39:53,940 And now my job in life, I got one job. 765 00:39:54,430 --> 00:39:57,390 At the end of the day, I've told you, first it's for my wife, 766 00:39:58,190 --> 00:40:01,230 then my kids, my core relationships. 767 00:40:01,230 --> 00:40:01,790 And you. 768 00:40:02,430 --> 00:40:07,310 I want to help you be here. 769 00:40:08,910 --> 00:40:12,910 I want to help you come alive in the thing that God has gifted 770 00:40:12,910 --> 00:40:14,830 you to do. 771 00:40:15,310 --> 00:40:20,410 A demonstration of the spirit is given to me. 772 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:21,640 All right, let's try again. 773 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:22,200 You sound. 774 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,480 You don't sound too excited about it. 775 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,600 A demonstration of the spirit is given to. 776 00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:27,480 Let's go. 777 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,480 For the common good. 778 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,280 Every person, you've got something. 779 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,200 You couldn't get rid of it if you tried. 780 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,720 Your destiny is to be ignited in this gifting, not so that you 781 00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:45,320 can be like man. 782 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,440 Our group is pretty good. 783 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,160 We're pretty smart. 784 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,160 I think we got it right. 785 00:40:48,580 --> 00:40:50,340 Those people over there belong to Satan. 786 00:40:52,180 --> 00:40:53,620 There's a reason why. 787 00:40:54,420 --> 00:40:58,540 I think it's CS Lewis who said that pride is the complete anti God 788 00:40:58,540 --> 00:40:59,300 state of mind. 789 00:41:00,980 --> 00:41:02,460 I think he said something like that. 790 00:41:02,460 --> 00:41:03,580 Somebody fact checked me. 791 00:41:03,580 --> 00:41:05,300 Justin, can you fact check me on that? 792 00:41:06,420 --> 00:41:09,620 He said something like, pride is a complete anti God state of mind. 793 00:41:11,620 --> 00:41:16,340 Our goal is to be on fire and not go like, man, look how cool I 794 00:41:16,340 --> 00:41:16,660 am. 795 00:41:16,660 --> 00:41:19,780 No, it's supposed to be like, look what God can do through us, 796 00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:21,060 through us. 797 00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:23,140 And then we pass on. 798 00:41:23,460 --> 00:41:25,860 We help fan the flame of somebody else. 799 00:41:27,620 --> 00:41:29,780 And it happens in the ordinary stuff. 800 00:41:31,940 --> 00:41:34,100 I saw it with our church at the. 801 00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:34,580 At the. 802 00:41:35,060 --> 00:41:36,180 The park on Friday. 803 00:41:37,220 --> 00:41:41,620 The ordinary stuff on an ordinary Friday evening. 804 00:41:43,060 --> 00:41:48,110 A guy by the name of Nate brought a friend to the park. 805 00:41:49,150 --> 00:41:51,270 Nate's had his history of life struggles. 806 00:41:51,270 --> 00:41:53,710 If you were sitting right here, he would tell you. 807 00:41:54,350 --> 00:41:58,270 And he brought A friend with him and I watched as our church, 808 00:41:58,510 --> 00:42:01,390 like, encircled this dude. 809 00:42:02,110 --> 00:42:04,110 Like, not in a creepy church kind of way. 810 00:42:05,710 --> 00:42:06,750 We've all been there. 811 00:42:06,910 --> 00:42:08,150 New guests, stand up. 812 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:09,870 We have a basket of goodies for you. 813 00:42:09,870 --> 00:42:10,390 Stand up here. 814 00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:13,470 Come on up and say something, you know, not in a creepy church 815 00:42:13,470 --> 00:42:13,790 way. 816 00:42:13,950 --> 00:42:17,770 I watched people as they saw this guy differently. 817 00:42:19,610 --> 00:42:21,370 They saw him as a masterpiece. 818 00:42:22,410 --> 00:42:24,410 Sat next to him as a masterpiece. 819 00:42:24,970 --> 00:42:25,930 Believe this. 820 00:42:29,450 --> 00:42:35,010 And everybody chipped in to, like, help him know how holy his 821 00:42:35,010 --> 00:42:35,610 life is. 822 00:42:37,610 --> 00:42:40,570 So I think I'm about done for today. 823 00:42:40,730 --> 00:42:43,780 What time is it now? 824 00:42:43,780 --> 00:42:44,220 Cool. 825 00:42:46,940 --> 00:42:47,820 Action step. 826 00:42:48,620 --> 00:42:49,740 How do we apply this? 827 00:42:50,220 --> 00:42:55,180 Number one, believe it about you. 828 00:42:59,820 --> 00:43:01,580 Believe it about you. 829 00:43:04,940 --> 00:43:08,940 You are part of something so magnificent and glorious. 830 00:43:10,110 --> 00:43:12,750 You are part of a movement to renew all things. 831 00:43:13,230 --> 00:43:17,150 The only thing that you have to do is receive it and cultivate 832 00:43:17,150 --> 00:43:18,230 it and share it. 833 00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:21,710 That's is true about you. 834 00:43:22,030 --> 00:43:22,990 This right here. 835 00:43:25,790 --> 00:43:27,630 And so believe it about you. 836 00:43:27,870 --> 00:43:33,230 And number two, believe it about them. 837 00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:37,640 Believe it about them. 838 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,640 So when you're in a meeting this week, as I often joke, and you're 839 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,120 in a meeting with the co worker that you hate. 840 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,960 Ross, I don't hate any of my co workers. 841 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:50,680 I'm a Christian. 842 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:51,720 I love everybody. 843 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,000 Treat them with kindness. 844 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,240 You're with a co worker who makes you struggle a little bit. 845 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:03,670 Believe it when you're serving clients. 846 00:44:03,830 --> 00:44:09,830 Believe it when you're checking out at the grocery store. 847 00:44:09,830 --> 00:44:12,870 Believe it when you're at the park. 848 00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:16,470 Believe it when you hop onto Facebook. 849 00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:19,830 Oh, my God. 850 00:44:21,110 --> 00:44:24,630 That dystopian place we call Facebook and social media. 851 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,440 Believe it about you. 852 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,440 Believe it about them. 853 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,560 Live differently. 854 00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:34,000 Seek the Holy Spirit. 855 00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:38,640 All right, I think that's it for me. 856 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,680 What is this making you think and feel? 857 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,640 Is it making you want to do. 858 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,640 What's this making you. 859 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,480 You want to slow down? 860 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,160 Why would you want to do that, Angie? 861 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,040 So I can hear. 862 00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:55,590 I want to slow down so I can hear. 863 00:44:56,950 --> 00:45:03,470 Yeah, I said before that God's reality is God's reality. 864 00:45:03,470 --> 00:45:06,870 That doesn't change our relationship to it is what changes. 865 00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:10,110 It's like when we hear, when we notice, when we listen. 866 00:45:10,110 --> 00:45:12,910 That's what we're just changing our relationship to it. 867 00:45:12,910 --> 00:45:13,270 What else? 868 00:45:13,270 --> 00:45:15,110 What's this making you think, feel, want to do? 869 00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:21,680 There is something in each of us that we can give that is the truth. 870 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:23,520 That's not a theory. 871 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:24,640 It is the truth. 872 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:26,400 That is church. 873 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:33,440 When a body of people are connected in a mysterious and holy 874 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,720 way and we fan the flame of each other's gifts in each other 875 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:43,480 and we help each other, offer them what Else, what's this making 876 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:44,880 you think, feel, want to do? 877 00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:47,390 It feels like a sigh of relief. 878 00:45:47,390 --> 00:45:48,230 Can you say more? 879 00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:50,470 It's a sigh of relief. 880 00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:52,230 It's just good to know. 881 00:45:53,590 --> 00:45:56,710 It is a relief when you're not seeing people's threats. 882 00:46:00,390 --> 00:46:02,710 It's a good thing to see people differently. 883 00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:04,950 Yep. 884 00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:06,150 It's. 885 00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:10,310 It's learning to live almost obsessively about the present moment. 886 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:16,080 Like, God, help me to abide in you and be led by your spirit today. 887 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,560 Some of the planners right now are like, but, Ross, how do I discover 888 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,200 my gift? 889 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,720 Can you point me to the book or the Spiritual Gifts Inventory 890 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:25,880 that tells me what my gift is? 891 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,760 And then I figured out, and then I start living it out? 892 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,120 No, spiritual gifts inventory stink. 893 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:33,920 They're not any good. 894 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:39,560 The way you discover your gift is to get in the habit of just practicing 895 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,360 presence with God in the moment of every day, and you just 896 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:45,160 start noticing. 897 00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:48,840 You start noticing, like, what? 898 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,720 What did I do today that took relatively little effort, but I was 899 00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:53,560 fruitful in it. 900 00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:59,000 What did I learn quickly that maybe others it takes. 901 00:46:59,000 --> 00:46:59,960 It's harder for them. 902 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,040 I'm not better than them, but it's a key. 903 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,440 It's a lens into what I'm uniquely gifted at. 904 00:47:06,820 --> 00:47:08,460 God, show me your presence, Amanda. 905 00:47:08,460 --> 00:47:08,900 Go ahead. 906 00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:11,300 It's already in us. 907 00:47:13,300 --> 00:47:15,860 It's something we cultivate inside us. 908 00:47:15,860 --> 00:47:16,420 That is. 909 00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:19,540 That's kind of like church right there. 910 00:47:19,540 --> 00:47:21,140 It's in the most ordinary things. 911 00:47:21,140 --> 00:47:23,940 If we start to believe that God is in the most mundane of things, 912 00:47:23,940 --> 00:47:25,060 we sang it in a song. 913 00:47:25,540 --> 00:47:28,500 The miraculous mundane is still waiting to be seen. 914 00:47:30,190 --> 00:47:30,550 Okay. 915 00:47:30,550 --> 00:47:31,390 Centered is. 916 00:47:31,550 --> 00:47:33,870 Is being centered within yourself and your relationship with 917 00:47:33,870 --> 00:47:34,150 God. 918 00:47:34,150 --> 00:47:37,470 Grounded is kind of, you know, getting deeper roots into, like, 919 00:47:37,550 --> 00:47:40,750 how you're uniquely gifted to do what you're made to do. 920 00:47:40,910 --> 00:47:42,510 Yeah, I like that. 921 00:47:43,150 --> 00:47:43,550 All right. 922 00:47:43,550 --> 00:47:45,790 Hey, let's stand and sing this last song. 923 00:47:47,150 --> 00:47:49,470 If anybody wants to get the kids, go for it. 924 00:47:50,990 --> 00:47:51,790 Stay the course. 925 00:47:53,470 --> 00:47:54,710 Would you stand with us? 926 00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:57,790 We're just going to close with one chord, a bridge and a chorus 927 00:47:57,790 --> 00:47:58,870 to build my life. 928 00:48:00,870 --> 00:48:06,550 So I think what for me, what I keep learning as this. 929 00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:11,830 This fire takes over my life is practically what it looks like 930 00:48:11,830 --> 00:48:13,430 to build your life on love. 931 00:48:14,310 --> 00:48:19,670 Because every day I catch in myself that fear inspired living 932 00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:22,880 is ready to go all over again the next day. 933 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,360 Maybe I lived in love yesterday and love was leading the 934 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,440 way for whatever reason, when I get up the next day, fear is ready 935 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,400 to run the show again. 936 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,000 So I have to learn, like, moment to moment, day to day, to 937 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,440 let the Holy Spirit lead me in a life that is inspired by love. 938 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,080 So perfect timing. 939 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,720 Thank you for being with us today. 940 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:51,040 I pray that this week God gives you the ability to open your 941 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:56,040 life, open the sails of your ship to the wind of the Holy Spirit, 942 00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:02,840 to take the risk, to leave comfort, leave the control, leave 943 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,160 the organization, to step into a life of holy mess with Jesus. 944 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,040 Have a great week. 945 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,250 Thank you for participating in the the conversation happening at 946 00:49:15,250 --> 00:49:16,850 Heaven Earth Church. 947 00:49:17,330 --> 00:49:22,610 Your next opportunity to do so live is this Sunday morning, 9:30am 948 00:49:23,730 --> 00:49:28,210 Eastern Time, either at the main campus at 309 East Main in Whiteland, 949 00:49:28,210 --> 00:49:32,210 Indiana or online at YouTube Live. 950 00:49:32,610 --> 00:49:39,580 That's at YouTube.com heavenerthchurch the audio page podcast 951 00:49:39,580 --> 00:49:45,100 is always available at 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963 00:50:25,150 --> 00:50:29,190 in the next step, you can go to heavenorthchurch.org otherwise 964 00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:32,360 we look forward to being with you next time at the Heaven Earth 965 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:33,360 Church Podcast.