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I don't see you wearing green it's St.

Patrick's day, week.

I'm going to have to pinch you from New York all the way over to LA.

It's laundry day.

I don't know what to say.

I guess all, all my green clothes are dirty.

You'll have to forgive me.

Have you ever heard of that?

The pinching on St.

Patrick's day?

No, I don't know.

I'm a Jew.

My, I got my cheeks pinched and stuff all the time by my grandmother.

Is it similar to that?

No.

So this is like a thing, like if you don't wear green on St Patrick's

I don't know.

If that's like a Southern thing, I don't know where that came from.

But growing up, if you didn't wear green on St.

Patrick's day, you would get pinched.

By like strangers

Yeah.

Anyone can paint.

This is completely new to you.

Yeah, I guess, you know what I was thinking, like when I was little, it was

Did you have the Shamrock shake growing up?

I've heard of it.

I've never had it.

I think basically a vanilla shake with green food coloring, but it was great.

Maybe there was a little mint moment.

I can't remember.

And then, you know, obviously in college we would go to like an Irish pub.

So I think in accordance to the celebration I would participate, you know, so I

I do know the Jews have been oppressed by everyone, but have, has Ireland

Like I wonder if Jewish culture, you just don't really celebrate St.

Patrick's day as

Well, it is a Saint, right?

Yeah.

St.

Patrick.

So it's not particularly Jewish though.

I can't, I can't speak to the anti-Semitism of it all.

Unfortunately.

Anyway,

interesting time.

I know.

How was your week otherwise?

My birthday was last week, so I had a fantastic birthday.

It's very exciting to be in this new age.

I just feel so much more intelligent and I feel so much more lived livid.

Let know well li live at live ed life.

I'm very wise.

Now I'm giving out life consultations for people I'm so livid living in.

but not to be confused with livid as in mad.

Well, I think there's a small level of limitedness.

That's always vibrating internally for me,

Oh, wow.

We'll work on

even live more live ad with an E I know the E S substitution is

rec I recognized,

Yeah.

It is interesting how suddenly it's like your birthday and then you're like, I'm so much

just a day, one more day yesterday.

one more day.

But how was your how's your life?

Miley was good.

I had a friend visiting from out of town from New York who I hadn't seen, you know, since right.

Like immediately before the apocalypse.

So it was nice to see her.

Yeah.

We, uh, splurged on a couple of nice dinners and I drove downtown, which I vowed

be doing that.

I know I'm going to be doing that very shortly.

Yeah.

There are rare exceptions to my no downtown role, but very close friends

The

the exceptions.

Yeah.

So my week was good and I feel like we've already discussed that there's livid newness within you.

Trey, do you have a complaint you want to Lodge?

I really, really need to

Lodge A Complaint.

today because, uh, and this is going to get a little dark and heavy.

We usually, these are silly, but I recently listened to two separate podcasts.

Well, one was a multi-part series.

It was four episodes.

Each episode was about two and a half hours.

And then I listened to an individual while I'm thinking like, there's no need, like, I

Another one that was three hours long today.

I want to Lodge A Complaint about why have we not solved the JonBenet Ramsey?

I'm livid about this.

so clear that we aren't being told the full information and lightheartedness aside, it has

It within hours, became tabloid fodder.

And I don't understand why we haven't solved.

The Boulder police department on many instances have eliminated any sort of

And the family was very influential, very huge donors and the city town of Boulder.

So I think all fingers are pointing to very specific individuals

And I just think this was a little child.

Who is deserving of justice and every single day that this case is not solved.

It is a mockery to the justice system of the United States of America.

Now back to levity, like I don't think it will ever be solved I'm mad about it.

We need to solve the JonBenet Ramsey case.

Is there no justice?

Insane.

I know it's a little departure from our comedy podcast, but I'm mad about it.

I've also, I've also inundated myself with so much about it.

So that's why it's very ripe and fresh.

It's the front of the

But I do think that like JonBenet, Ramsey, just the name has a

And I think that that's inappropriate.

The case needs to be solved.

I'm lodging that complaint officially.

It's in the box.

Wow, loud and clear.

I hear you.

I agree.

I've I've also watched a documentary, the whole thing with the pineapple, all of that.

I've seen it all.

There's many theories.

I just think like in general, and again, we're not going to get too deep into this

JonBenet Ramsey's cases, very front and center, but there are so many cases

That be that we feel like there's no evidence out there that is just blatantly obvious.

And whether it be because of financial, social, racial influence, these cases are being sidelined.

This one has obviously been sidelined for a long time, but there are plenty of other

And maybe not given the proper.

Yeah, profiled and, and like judicial due diligence that it deserves.

So I think that's like a larger complaint I can definitely get behind is like, what is going

Fair

but that's a whole nother discussion.

of who now I want to ask you, I'm really hoping that you

Like what's your, what's your complaint

yeah.

Yeah.

Mine is much lighter, I think.

But it's equally as anger invoking for me, it's really like, okay, listen, I'm going to say

Why don't you do your job?

Like, I like you kind of like a water thing.

For example, they never leave it on for long enough for me to do my full, happy birthday, get

I got to play a game with the saying like, oh, I'm a new hand.

You know, they never give me a paper towel.

That's long enough that I need, why is this supposed to be a convenience?

And it's such an incomplete.

I have a question for you.

Literally, this happened to me on Saturday.

I was thinking I was using one of those, um, automatic soap dispensers at a store.

And I always go back for a second.

Yeah.

So then I actually was thinking, why do I, I don't know how much is in this one square.

Why do I always go back for a second automatic squirt of soap?

Do I think the first squirt is not sufficient because I do think that the water they're

So it's not enough water.

It's never enough paper towel.

I need, I need to put my hands under three times for paper towels and

I just wish that it would like stay off.

As long as my hands are under it.

Like, I don't need to be water.

You know, I just want to get the job done.

I just don't understand why you're stopping in the

Wait, that's a great point.

You know, like on water fountains, where they have the water bottle ones, those

Why does, why does sinks

clearly the technology

Oh my God.

mean, even as soap could technically be like that, right?

Like if I'm going to leave my hand under here for as long as my hands under there, you give me the.

Wait, that's how those, that's how those hand dryers work.

So why don't the paper towel ones work that way?

exactly, exactly.

Like it.

Doesn't.

Thank you.

It doesn't make any sense that we're like timing this all and then

The automatic ones are only a step up.

You know, those faucets that you have to like push the button and then it goes really fast.

So it's like, you got to like push the button, which may be dirty and I'm going to wash my hands

Like now I've got to get the elbow involved.

It's just come on.

Shark tank.

I also think the whole automated bathroom sink.

So the paper towel situation is always defeated.

And this once again, constantly, I go back to these the 1994, Alan degenerate, standup,

right, right,

need to, like, it needs to be the doorknob.

Cause I don't know that the person before me who touched the doorknob wash their hands.

So it's like instantly defeated anywhere.

Yeah.

They have like pedal door openers where you can like kick.

Yeah.

Like we should also have

no, but that's such a good button in Europe.

That's what the plumbing systems like in order to get water, you didn't use your hands,

That happens.

all over Italy.

Why don't we do that in

Yeah.

That's a good point.

I wouldn't even need the automatic thing if I could just use my foot.

Maybe that's ablest.

Listener voicemail.

Chelsey surprise.

Oh, my, I didn't even know we had a voicemail.

Seriously.

This is so exciting.

just added it to the script moments before,

Wow.

How exciting.

Okay.

Let's

I'm wondering if we need to subtitle our podcasts to, um, the world

Is Jay was back.

Different James, but another James who has contacted us before,

Oh, okay.

are there any less centers that aren't named?

James?

If you are listening, your name is not James.

Leave us a voicemail.

1-850-REVIEW-0.

And if you are one of the James that leaves us voicemails, leave us another one.

Cause we love you guys.

Here is another voicemail from a different James who has also left a voicemail.

James' voicemail listener James' voicemail, James

James, James, but not the James from the James that was before the James.

That

The other James James,

Yeah.

Got it.

Hey Queens.

it.

is James calling from LA.

This is my second time calling.

And I have got to tell you about when a hundred flowers.

I agree with all of the ones are views.

I actually sent flowers to my mom once for mother's day.

It's confirmed that it's going to be delivered on Saturday.

Saturday comes.

It's not delivered.

I'm calling, I'm calling.

When's it going to be delivered?

Oh, it's going to be delivered on Sunday on actual mother's day.

Don't worry.

Don't worry.

Mother's day comes mom or the flowers there?

Nope, no flowers Monday.

I didn't even give him a chance.

I asked refund I'll never use 1-800-FLOWERS ever, ever again.

Wow.

That really flipped.

Wow.

Hope you're well, James that's, I mean, I'm glad to hear it.

Like we said, it's important for us to hear from you guys.

If you have differing or analogous experiences to our reviewers, it just helps

The truth.

So thank you, James, for letting us know, we'll take that in mind.

I did send you try flowers before that episode aired like James, I sort of wanted

I also wanted to see, like, will they be late?

What's going to happen.

It was around Valentine's day.

So I was like, this is a good test.

What was the experience for you as the sender?

Cause that's the receiver.

It was wonderful.

Oh good.

My experience is the center was pretty easy.

I had to select Friday and not actual Valentine's day because it was cheaper

So like half the price cheaper.

So I did that.

The only thing that I will say is I saw the photo that you posted of the flowers,

The biggest complaint.

It's funny, you point that out because literally

Oh, really?

Oh,

I think whatever is in those little packets, I actually

I never even mentioned this to you because I almost wanted to repost a

And also, I guess the water, you know, the flowers were without water for however long, the time

The water was crystal clear.

Like they looked entirely different the next

The next day.

Oh, interesting.

Where they, where they more colorful and vibrant.

Okay, good.

Cause they were like so beautiful and vibrant in the photo and then you posted it.

And I was like, that's all like hideous.

It just seems like a totally different color palette than what was advertised.

noticed all of that myself.

I will say the I'm getting them earlier than Valentine's day was so much more fun.

So interesting because I often am sending things through one, a hundred flowers for specific

Cause it really was unexpected.

And I literally was like Davidson these to me cause we'd had an argument.

so, but now it was my work wife.

that's right.

I had one experience.

That's exactly what happened with James here, but it was going key west and the logo.

The address was a little complicated because it's in the middle of a block.

So, so I felt like it was that circumstance, not really one, a

No one was like taking care of me.

I had to be contacting to figure it out, which I feel like James ultimately was like, whatever.

But the most upsetting thing is you then have to reveal to the recipient.

Did they come?

That's the most upsetting part.

Cause then the surprise has gone

Right.

Totally

cause they're not there.

So James, we appreciate you.

Thank you for being such a solid supporter.

Literally from before the podcast, premier James has been a supporter, appreciate you.

James, we love you.

Was James.

The one that told us about the dog

Yes.

The flies.

Yes.

All right.

Yeah.

James, every time I see someone that hasn't picked up, I think of you.

That means anything.

Um, no, I love Thank you.

And, and also everybody leave a live review.

That was so fun.

We love hearing your opinions.

As we said, 1-850-REVIEW-0.

And with that in mind, let's hear some more opinions.

I love it.

Let's do

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We each bring in a review from the internet that we feel needs to be inspected.

read you a review.

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Clean.

Review That Review.

All right.

So today I picked a product that, um, I do personally have experience with.

Um, today I have a one star review from amazon.com for a sunless Tanner.

The specific one is the Alba Botanica...

is that Jessica Alba's company?

It sounds like it, but I don't want to claim that

Because it was all about

company or is that

oh, good point.

Yes.

And isn't that for babies?

Okay.

This has nothing to do with Jessica Alba.

called Alba.

Botanica.

this has nothing to do with Jessica Alba at all.

That's going to be our title.

has nothing to do with just call, but, okay.

This is written by Kristin M And Kristin M's subject is actually pretty

It smells like caps urine.

um,

Stunk up everything washed bedding and stuffed animal, all upper case.

First

That's a lot for a title.

Kristen M really wants us to know.

And this is Kristen M's one star Amazon review for Alba Botanica, Sunless Tanner.

Warning.

I tried to return this product, but received a message that there are no refunds.

I didn't see that note when I bought it, but I just looked on the Amazon product page.

And I see the note now.

Bummer.

This product smells like a Hawaiian day, right out of the tube.

But within about 30 seconds of putting it on my leg, a putrid smell

My husband walked into the room and said, quote, caps, yuck.

What is that?

Smell?

It smells like urine quote.

Oh, that's me.

Quote you pee.

No it's tanning cream.

It stinks, huh?

With a crunched up face quote, all caps.

Yes.

This urine smell got everywhere, even though I only put it on my legs.

I can't imagine the trouble I would have been in.

If I put it on my whole body or God forbid my face.

I mistakenly thought that the smell would go away overnight.

So I went to bed.

Oh my goodness.

What an awful sleep.

We felt like we were sleeping in a urinal.

We toughed it out because I really wanted a beautiful tan parentheses.

My skin is alabaster.

What a mistake?

By the morning, the stench multiplied and it was on everything.

Screw the tan.

I stink.

I jumped into the shower and scrubbed my legs with a washcloth.

And so three times in a row and they still stunk.

I had to wash my sheets and blanket parentheses, even though they were fresh the night before.

And hand-wash my precious stuffed animal parentheses.

Yes.

I sleep with a stuffed animal quote, poor pinky.

I'm sorry, girl.

Even two weeks later, the faint smell of urine saturates my nostrils.

I get migraine attacks from smells.

So that sucks.

If you are sensitive to smell.

Taps do not buy this product.

I will say my legs looked tan, but who cares?

How nice your tan looks.

If everyone you encounter thinks you peed yourself.

Okay.

I would just never think.

Change my bedding and then put sunless Tanner on.

I mean, Kristen lives their life, but like if I was going to be putting lotiony stuff on or

Right.

Well, here's I guess the larger question within that is what is the

Because.

I've ever seen a sunless Tanner or anyone that uses some less Tanner, all of their

In fact, I won't call this person out, but when I was in college, I was an apprentice

Like Allison Janney.

Yes, but I went and was cleaning someone's room, who had a character

So he was wearing sunless Tanner all the time.

And I had to change the sheets every single night.

Because they were that gross.

And he like, he was like, if I'm gonna wear this sunless Tanner, I need

So I'm just curious, what is the expectation?

Cause I feel like it's a little bit of a, like playing in the devil's playground.

Yeah.

I mean, my first thought about some of those Tanner, which I do have

you are alabaster

I am not even alabaster alabaster.

I'm see-through.

That's all

I know.

used to be called, I used to be called powder.

Uh, no, I'm just kidding.

No, but like is my first thought is how brown your gets.

Yeah.

gloves.

And I do know that like you, it does like come off cause you're

Right.

So it's like, obviously some of it's going to come off.

That's not really the main point.

Obviously the main point of the

is the smell.

So I'm going to talk about the smell.

My first thought is that it sort of reminds me a little bit of the manic panic Review!

with the reaction from the husband.

I'm wondering a little bit about the power of suggestion.

And if know, Kristin M in fact would have thought that, that it smelled so bad from urine.

Had the husband not had such a large reaction.

It seems like to me, the process of this heightened reaction.

the domino really began when the husband identified the smell.

In fact, when Kristen originally talks about the dialogue that she had with her husband

Like what, like, what are you.

What are you talking about?

Right.

So obviously at that point, if we're to follow the narrative, as soon as the husband

I, I do think there's evidence for that.

My counterpoint is, does that matter?

Because if there is an old.

Either you pick up on it or someone else picks up on it.

It is bad, but I even think reverse wise, if it smells like a Hawaiian day, that's

I just think it's interesting that at the end of the day, you know,

You know how we discuss with Nair, like near has a terrible smell, but at the

So it's like this trade off exchange that we do where it's like, all right.

If I want to be lazy and just put cream on my body instead of shaving.

Then I need to deal with the smell, right?

So I wonder if like your average, you know, self tin or user, maybe their tolerance for the

That was like pod on two ways.

Wait,

you're really bringing a really great point up, which I wasn't sure if I

So I,

I looked up other reviews from Kristen M and Kristin really, really

Producing migraines and multiple reviews.

I, it seems like this might be something that is leading and Kristin's experience of life.

Sure.

So that also makes me wonder if,

If we trust her as like an average.

if that makes it a typical experience or if this is something that

Yeah, I think that is interesting.

And I think that is something to consider because I do think that there are people

It sounds like Kristen and her

the husbands.

very, very sensitive.

And like, I, I do think the power of suggestion is playing in the exacerbate.

I mean, come on, like we scrubbed our body forward.

Like, it just seems like a very dramatic, you know, does it say anywhere in the description,

Like anything that like implies that this product would be the one that I'm going to choose.

If I am a little bit sensitive to smells.

It doesn't say anything about smell, but it does say plant-based and cruelty-free

Okay.

natural looking results.

Golden tanning without the sun.

It doesn't say anything about scent or odor.

Right.

Another thing that's interesting is I don't know, like what do you think

Yeah, that is interesting.

I feel like we don't really cover that a lot on the podcast, but that has a

Honestly, I don't know.

I feel like this isn't Neutrogena.

I don't know the, I don't know the line of all, but like, I don't know

a smaller mom and popper, smaller batch company, they can't afford to

And then I'm return,

also, this is a four ounce.

oh, get the heck out of here.

I know that's another part of it.

But to your last point, I do think Kristen's experience is valuable.

I feel like Kristen goes both extremes with truthful and shady.

I think Kristen delves into both pots of gold and truthful shitty, but ultimately, like, I

but.

I don't think that the return thing, I think it's good to know.

I think there's value that they're leading with like just heads up.

It's gonna, it smelled for me and you can't return it.

The spelling and grammar is pretty great.

I mean, there's not really issues here.

I think.

B I don't, I, I'm not sure if it's typical.

I don't think that I have such a sensitivity to odor as Kristin does.

I don't really experience that, but you sort of mentioned that you get migrants.

So there's some, there's some value there.

The humor I love that we find out about pinky

he has.

you know, when the name they had to have, let's like, you know,

I LOL at the, my face E.

E.

Yeah, I, you know, I think that there is a large impact for me here because I'm entertained by

I wanted to find other reviews.

right.

So I'm curious about the deal breaker.

I just feel like if I read this Review!

I might be like, okay, good to know what smells good to know what stains good to know.

Like I'm going to need to wash everything, whatever, but, and lives a great town.

So like, would that make me not want to buy the product?

I don't know.

And how much should that weigh in?

I'm not sure.

Well I've questioned as well.

Cause it does make me think.

I need to look and see if other people are struggling with the odor.

I'm also just really back to the original point about influence from the spouse,

So maybe they're at their threshold for tolerating things with Kristen.

Pinky was like, it really filled the.

you have pinky, we can't have.

I mean, listen, I think that Kristen should be able to sleep with pinky

I think that that's okay.

I think it's nice that she, um, is opening up with vulnerability about

I don't have a problem with that.

All right.

I think I'm ready to cry on Chris then.

Are you trying, is there anything we're not considering before the crowning that we

I don't think so.

All right.

Let's get to the other side of this Rambo in crown out.

So Chelsey and I each have our own set of one to five crown cards and then an effort

We will simultaneously reveal our rating.

The Queens are Tabulating.

Okay, I'm holding up three crowns.

Trey is holding up four crowns for Kristin M.

I'm doing a three crowns cause it's a little above middle of the road for me.

There were no spelling errors, got a little bit of a chuckle out of it.

That's where most of the points are coming from.

I don't know if this is a deal breaker and I'm a little weary of the whole power of

So with that sort of, trepidation with the authenticity, I decided to go with three crowns.

How about you?

Why four for Kristin?

Because ultimately I was charmed and I feel like it's a valid experience.

It makes me want to do a little more research, which makes me think that

and also that, like, it did work, you know, but it was stinky and.

Oh, ultimately pointing out that there's no refund.

Like if, if Kristen didn't catch that and they were sort of suckered,

So that's why I said four.

I, I didn't give all five crowns because I'm not sure that everyone finds it to be so stinky.

So that's why I said four, because I think the impact is relatively high.

Wow.

I mean, thanks, Kristin, em, for contributing to today's episode of Review That Review,

Yeah.

Yeah.

Long pinky.

Yes,

All right, so let's take a quick break.

And when we get back, we can get into Chelsey's Review!

the army.

did you catch that?

Ida Tanner Review!

for our St.

Patrick.

What does that have to do to say?

Because Irish people are pale.

I, as you were our pale.

Oh, well I hope that mine doesn't have a weird double entendre, but we'll get there shortly.

I don't know.

Maybe.

Hold your crown.

We'll be right back.

I was trying to do that with an Irish accent anyway, Irish.

Oh, Laurie it's game time.

All right.

It's time to take a quick little speed.

Spin on the matter of go round.

Can you do it?

Not even close.

I'm not even going to embarrass

Are may pots of gold, met R

I can't, I sound pirate.

Everything just sounds like a buyer.

It, when I do it, heres the Dale.

' VOICEOVER: I don't feel like an icon.

Most of the days, I feel like 'I can't!' That's with an, A'..

Trey.

And I have each picked a rotten scathing, pithy One-Star-Zinger and with 30 seconds on

Just like queen Merrill, who does it all.

Oh.

Or the clock runs out.

That's good.

I tried.

right, Chelsey, what is your zinger for today?

All right.

So my zinger for today is actually a good reads.

One star review written by Chris about the Bible, and it says too much sex and violence for me.

That's really funny.

Oh.

man.

All right.

Well, I'm at a strap.

You us.

Ooh, such a.

God, I don't know.

Well, let's do it.

Alright, here we go.

Okay.

Three, Two, One,

Hora

much Sachs.

Oh wow.

we go.

we've just another accident.

Um, too much sex violence for me,

TLC reality show

sex and violence for me.

televangelist matches.

Show

Ooh, much sex and violence for me

lifetime

much sex and violence me.

drama, 4 6, 7.

God.

I like recovered from that.

Uh, accent debacle.

Let's hear your zinger.

job.

Okay.

So

Thank

I have a one star review from walmart.com for the Jemmy

Patrick's day leprechaun, G dash 4 8 0 0 0.

Oh my God.

Is that a super Calla?

Supercalifragilistic.

I just think it's really funny.

The idea of like having an inflatable decoration in their front yard for St.

Patrick's day.

Some people are very into the wand decorations.

Look, when you say

All right.

So this was written by Velda

Ooh.

Okay.

right.

Yeah.

Hi.

Velda.

And velvets One-Star-Zinger is don't buy it, not happy at all.

Okay,

Just cutting straight to the point.

right.

Let's strap you in.

Is it wrong to say to a leper con's back like A'.

you're like piggybacking a leprechaun.

No.

It's like my ancestors.

Yeah.

You're you're.

Yes, exactly.

Are you ready?

I am ready.

Three, Two, One, GO!.

Soap opera,

So by it not happy at all.

pop star,

Yeah,

Southern

don't jump by it.

I, ain't not happy at all.

spy

Don't it.

Not happy all.

auctioneer.

My.

Shakespeare.

to buy.

I'm not happy at all.

love how your Shakespeare is always like some I don't.

I always think Italian production.

Yeah.

I don't know what that is.

But I like it seven, seven.

We tied it's our lucky day.

We're both sweaters.

There's a magic potion in our hoop.

Oh my God.

I don't know what's going on.

that.

Review that.

Review.

Oh, Khalida.

Oculi.

We are back from that rousing game break and it is now your turn Chelsey to take

Whereas your Review!

from Minnesota.

We don't know

Um, well, I don't know that my Review!

is on theme, but, um, my review today is of Alcatraz island in San Francisco.

I've been there.

I've been to Alcatraz island.

It is a Yelp review, one star from Linda J.

Not Linda.

The fly infestation on the ferries that go to and from the island daily,

The island is invaded by flies and now the ferries are also.

It's bad, like horse stable, bad times, 10.

It's not okay for the public to encounter such an infestation, especially without

Fires are attracted to decaying material, feces and garbage, and allowing them to invade an island

Swatting them away is disgusting.

Something needs to be done.

If this is going to continue to be a paying or, and landmark, it is not okay.

Regardless of any reason or any bird life, a priority needs to be made to come to some kind

Oh, my gosh.

There are flies in my hair.

On the benches on passengers jackets, flying around.

People were covering their food, swatting them away.

Thousands of flies.

It is a health hazard and needs to be addressed or one passengers in advance.

And the trip will not be pleasant until you get inside the jail.

I don't know who maintains the park anymore, but they should be embarrassed that they

If they do, they're doing a really bad job, it was literally the grossest

And I'm like, Linda also included four photos of various, like I assume strangers,

So this is definitely.

you share them?

I want to say,

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah.

So it is clear that they're not just being shady.

I did also, when I was looking through reviews, see this complaint and other people's

oh, really?

I also did see mention though, maybe I should have done a little bit of

Do you have any idea what that means?

Cause a few people were talking about

I have a, I have a lot to say about the

Oh really?

Oh my God.

I'm so glad.

Cause I was, I was sort of forgetting.

It's really interesting that you brought this in today because

Oh, wow.

Oh, cool.

A great,

Because famously, there was the Birdman of Alcatraz who was like a prisoner who

And they like had millions of prayer.

It was like a whole

oh,

Alcatraz.

Yeah.

There was even a movie, the Birdman of Alcatraz that was like an Oscar nominated film back

Oh, interesting.

So like the bird situation is a big deal.

So, what is the bird situation present debt?

Like there's just like these birds are still around hoping the Birdman

I do think that the birds are, are part of the lore of, of Alcatraz that is accurate

We're going to look zoom in at these pictures of the flies.

Okay.

So

mean, that's a lot of fly.

I'm, I'm pointing out 1, 2, 3, 4, there's four on one woman's

Two,.

Yeah,

I don't know the gender, I guess maybe there's one right there.

Or is that a button?

I don't see flies on the second photo.

I think it's just a show.

That one, I think is more just about like the expression of disgust,

Or the sun in their

like, and also just trying to like, I don't know, shade myself.

there's like six on the, this person's back.

And then it looks like there's one at the top.

Maybe you have this other, I mean, yes.

Okay.

too

have it is, it is gross.

I do think it's valuable to be aware.

There's a fly issue.

Right.

This is written in 2017.

I went to Alcatraz, I think in 2018 or 2019, I don't remember flies at all.

I'll interesting.

I was wondering, so this was written in September.

Do you remember what month you were there?

September it was

Wow.

Really interesting.

I went when I was in high school.

So that was a long time ago.

That was probably around 2004.

I don't remember flies, but.

This is really great.

Review!

because I am of several minds here.

I think that.

Linda has a great point because you go to Disney world Disneyland and they have sprayed and there's

So I recognize the point of like, if this is.

National park and rack.

There needs to be some sort of measure taken.

If people are having multiple, multiple flies landing on them, that's an issue.

I, I get that point.

I think the Karen aspect for me, it is like so much of the Alcatraz experience is getting on

And I think there might even be like, uh, videos and voiceover when.

But what's comical to me, the experience of being at Alcatraz was really upsetting to me.

it's like a peek into a very dark side of humanity.

What are human rights, the whole debate about rehabilitation versus punishment.

All of that is like very much present.

Did you go into the solitary confinement?

I did.

Yeah, me too.

I was scary.

It's and it's also like to recognize the amount of murder that had happened and

Like so much of it was like dark.

it stayed with me for awhile.

So it's kind of laughable to me that you are experiencing

You're complaining about the

talking about flying.

Sure.

But I, I also get the points.

Like we are visiting it as a landmark and we are paying and someone is taking that

So maybe take care of the flight situation.

I don't remember it being there.

So maybe, maybe because of Linda, maybe Alcatraz

you're right.

Maybe they read Linda's Review!

and then they were like, we got to get a handle on this.

Linda's very upset.

and then I also thought it was interesting that they brought up the point twice.

About flies and hair and, and people's food covering people's food.

Both of those points are mentioned twice.

Oh, yeah.

Uh, well, that's, that's my biggest complaint about the Review!

in general is like the lack of edit.

And again, like is the reiteration of the same point over and over again, more effective.

I venture not, I think that there is like a strong message in here that

Set our points and set our points with strength and dignity.

When you start repeating it over and over again, it just, it loses its impact.

And it does start to feel kind of Cairney cause it's like, okay, like kill your darlings.

But like, you know, pick the one that you want to go for that you feel

And I think your point would have landed a little bit better.

Uh, I think I'm having an impact cause, cause it is making me

I don't so, but like, will I, like, I think that is, I think there's value here.

I think the value here for me is like, you don't want to bring somebody

It gets cold.

I remember being cold, even

do too.

was freezing.

freezing.

So like, one of those things where it's like, you got it.

Like you said you got to get through the ferry ride to get to the attraction.

So if you don't want to do that, or you're not someone that wants to do

I don't know how else you get over there if you're a VIP, but like you might not

Like you maybe will choose not to go.

So I think that I would want to warn older people or people that might be a little bit

Or fly phobic.

or fly phobic people that might be a little bit cringed,

It is interesting because I really feel split about this Review!

cause I get Linda's point.

Yeah,

I'm also critical of Len doc, because that's what you're walking away with.

I mean, the other thing that I'm wondering about is, so

So I guess that, that sort of expands it to the entire experience, which includes the ferry.

But what I'm really missing here from Linda is the experience of the prison.

Other than saying like, well, thank God I made it to jail because it's better than this ferry.

I mean, which I don't know if that was an attempted to joke or not, but like, Yeah.

I just wonder what the experience was there.

So that I, as the person reading the Review!

could maybe weigh my options.

Like What made the experience pleasant once you were there that maybe for

If I'm going to get this experience.

think that that's exactly that point that you're saying is exactly

It's valid.

The fair.

I think the ferry ride is like 20 minutes or something.

And then I remember queuing up was a really long time.

So I do think it's fair to say, like the fairy experience as part of.

But I do also again in the same breath, I feel like Linda was so,

They couldn't even like get past it and they were holding onto it and they were angry

And it's like, whoa, you know that like, that makes me Karen eight, but then

I just want to imagine care at Karen.

Hi there.

I did it.

I just want to imagine Linda on the ferry, like sneaking those pictures, you know, of

Let me get a picture of that.

You know?

There is an energy to me about this that's feeling like Linda was so

They really were wanting to prove how terrible it was.

Yeah, and they did.

a little, I don't know, the spelling, spelling a spine, right.

Good.

I'm conflicted.

I don't know how I think.

Well, I

Are we going to dive in?

Should we like,

I think so.

What about you?

I think we can do it.

Let's do it.

Okay.

The Queens are Tabulating.

Three-and-a-half crowns three and a half crowns.

The Queens are unanimous.

Trey.

Why did you give Linda three and a half crowns?

I want to look at more Linda reviews.

I'm very intrigued by Linda, Linda, J who are you?

I'm very curious.

I see both sides of this, which is why I had to give right down the middle three

Is that I want to see more reviews.

I want to find out if the flight situation is, if this is shared by more

But since I have actually been to Alcatraz after the review was posted and I didn't experience it,

I just, I'm very conflicted.

I can't tell if they're a Karen.

I, I can't tell if they were victimized by the flies.

So they couldn't experience the event that they paid for.

I'm I'm conflicted.

It makes me want to do more research.

I want to call Alcatraz and see, Hey, do I need to be concerned about the fly situation?

So I don't know.

I sit there and a half, cause I'm very confused.

This has never happened to me.

Why did you say.

I said three and a half.

I mean, I liked Linda's points.

I think she had photo evidence.

I always got to give a nod for the, for the photographic evidence.

So for that, you know, she definitely earned some of her crowns there, uh, where he took away.

The crowns was really for me, the redundancy of course, as I've mentioned and not to be redundant.

The lack of information of the actual Alcatraz tour itself.

Just a little more, if we had edited out some of the other stuff and added in just a pinch, more

That's fair.

Yeah.

Wow.

Fun.

That was fun.

All right.

Okay.

My queen, we have reached the most Regal portion of our show.

Who are you?

Trey inducting for?

My Royal

Highness!

All right today, I'm going to induct the production company World of

So, all right.

To be sort of concise here, World of Wonder is most recognizable and famous today for being the

All of the RuPaul's Drag Race spin-offs, which is like Drag Race UK, Drag Race

Drag Race Italia.

There's so many, it's become a huge franchise.

They also it's interesting.

Randy Barbado and Fenton Bailey are the two individuals that created World of Wonder.

And it was formally formed in 1991 as a production company, but that's when they

Oh, wow.

And that's when RuPaul had multiple albums, had a VH1 talk show in the nineties.

And it's really fascinating to me because it's an old, like Hollywood notion that

And that has segwayed into this multi Emmy winning international franchise.

The beginning of their career, they started producing a documentary.

So one of, and then they had scripted content.

Uh, one of their first entries was party monster,

Oh, yeah.

to Sundance.

Yeah.

So they really like do a bunch of stuff.

They also now have drag cons, which are huge events, but I want to induct them

It's easy to criticize the commercialization of drag, but I do think that in order for

Out front and center and accepted and less polarizing, which in turn is like

And so much of my weekly, uh, entertainment consumption is World of Wonder content.

And, you know, they really help getting through life because they're creating

And I appreciate that diversity as producers that they can do, like heightened drama, you

Becoming Chaz their documentary stuff is really profound and not silly,

I want to induct World of Wonder they're truly changing the world.

And so I applaud you World of Wonder you are without a doubt, highly deserving

Wow.

I know how much RuPaul's Drag Race means to you.

So I, I could feel the authenticity in that nomination or induction rather.

Can you imagine your client being RuPaul?

What a genius choice they made in the nineties to manage that entity and what become.

I mean, how amazing.

Great love people that can, you know, identify talent just saying

And foster it in a way that like didn't exist.

There was no drag queen.

That was a recording artist.

Are you kidding me?

There's no drag queen.

That was the face of a makeup line.

She was the face of Mac cosmetics.

Are you kidding me?

A talk show.

Are you kidding me?

And now this reality show that's internet.

I mean, what a life RuPaul is, but congratulations, Randy and Fenton,

Yeah.

What All right.

We did.

All right.

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