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Karen Kenney: Hey you guys. Welcome to the
Karen Kenney show. I'm super duva, excited
to be here with you today, and I think I'm
just gonna dive right into this Sucka Happy

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New Year. This might be the first episode of
2025, episode 296, I think I'm going to call
this suck a slow learning, slow learning,
and it's inspired by something that one of

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my one to one clients said to me, there's
somebody that's also in the nest my group a
spiritual mentoring program. But I had, I
had written, I had written something in the

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group, and then they responded with this,
and their quote was like, really fantastic,
and I'll read that to you in a moment, but
it got me to thinking about this idea of

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slow learning, because we a culture that is
obsessed, obsessed with fast outcomes, quick
results, right? Let's like, big bang, boom.
Like, let's get done. Like, people just want

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things right now, immediate gratitude,
gratification, right? And my, my whole
experience as as a human being has learned
that. Has taught me that, and I have learned

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that most things take a little bit of time
to get into this thick skull of mine, like,
I don't know about you, but Hello, hello. My
noggin could be a little dense sometimes.

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And here's the thing, I'm smart, right? I'm
smart. I'm not necessarily, maybe, like,
astrophysicist smart or whatever, but I'm
pretty intelligent, you know, I'm not an

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idiot, I'm not a total idiot, and I
sometimes need some time to, kind of like,
simmer, you know, I need the soup to simmer.
Oh, my God. And we are in a, I don't know,

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double Amen hands, if you can feel me. Is
there some lessons? Are there some things
that it's taken you a little while to, like,
learn and wrap your head around and go, Oh,

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that's what that was. Hello, okay. But we're
a culture that is obsessed with, like,
getting things done fast and let's go, and
I'm paying for results, and I want the

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quickness. So rather than learning to fall
in love with learning, rather than like
falling in love with learning in the
process, because, hello, learning is a

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process. But rather than falling in love
with that, we just want things to like
happen right now. And look, I don't think
these fucking devices, like these phones,

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the tablets, the internet, the interwebs,
the socials, I don't think any of those
things have really helped us or our nervous
system. I just think that we have started to

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miss out on so much goodness, because we are
in search of the fast everything. We want it
super sized, we want it cheap, and we want
it fast, and that is just not for me, where

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I have learned that I need again. I need
slow learning environments sometimes. And so
many people, so many teachers, so many
marketers, so many online whatever, the

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people who are like, quote unquote leading
others, the quote unquote influences and the
coaches and the teachers and all the things,
right to me, so many people have just like

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lost the plot. They have totally lost the
point. And at this point, it seems like all
they're teaching for is results and
outcomes. And they're not really, they're

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not really going deep into the importance of
process, the process of learning things. And
I made myself a few notes so I wouldn't
forget, because this is important to me. So

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I wrote down this. I said, rather than
teaching like in a style or in a way, or
stressing the importance of first hand
experience, right, instead of leading

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towards that, rather than first hand
experience or the process of acquiring
knowledge through implementation, we just
want things fast, and we're like, here's a

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little graphic and here's a little three
steps of this, and blah, blah, blah, blah.
But I know to be true this for my own first
hand experience. My evidence has been that I

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need first hand experience and that the
process of me acquiring knowledge is through
implementation. Is through action. Is
through spending some time with something

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and figuring shit out right, learning true,
learning to make something your own. To take
something from a source out there, like a
book or a podcast or a course or mentoring

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or whatever, right? That stuff takes time to
sink in. Learning takes time. And I said,
you know, if all you want, if all you want
is a particular outcome or a certain result,

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then you are going to miss out on all the
nuances and all the gifts that come from the
actual process of learning, including what
comes in. The process of learning is the

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challenges, is the confusion, is the
setbacks, is the discovery, is the two steps
back, three steps forward. It's the Oh shit,
it's the I don't get it right. All the stuff

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that goes into learning. It takes time. Now
look, there are certain things where we do
have light bulb moments, right? There are
certain times when we're listening to

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something and all of a sudden it's like,
boom, something clicks and it falls into
place. But what's usually clicking and
falling into place is the time that you've

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already spent trying to understand
something, and then all of a sudden, that
missing piece is delivered from maybe an
outside source, whether, again, it's a book,

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it's a podcast, it's something you read,
it's something you heard, it's a quote,
whatever. And you're like, oh, like, all of
a sudden, as we jokingly say in

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Massachusetts, light dawns over my whole
head, right? Like the sun comes up and you
are illumined to something. It's like, oh,
like, no. Like, Oh my God. Like hitting

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yourself in the forehead. Like, oh, I just
realized it. But so much learning,
especially, I think so much learning, has
changed, because the delivery system has

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changed. You know, when I think back in the
day when they had, like, if you think about
tradesmen and craft people, right, you had
to apprentice, right? Like you had to go

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like a modern day, like internship, right?
So back in the day, you had to go and in
order to become a welder, in order to become
a blacksmith, in order to become a Mason, in

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order to become a carpenter, in order to
become somebody who could gather knowledge
and skills that then you could use in a
smart way and not build dangerous shit that

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that was gonna fall apart. You had to spend
some time over years upon years upon years.
You see it even in like people who have a
sensei or people who have you know, and I

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believe that we all have our own greatest
guru within us, our own greatest inner
teacher within us. And I also think that,
you know, sometimes we do need an external

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teacher. We do need an external source of
information, of inspiration that can guide
us and support us. However, the greatest
teacher and the greatest guru lives within

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our own hearts.

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However, having said all that, if we are
gonna spend time right with an external
teacher, it often takes some time. Most
people, like, they just want things super

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duper fast, like I said, like, a lot of
times by the time you hire a mentor like
myself or a coach or whoever you know,
you've been struggling for a while. You've

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been suffering for a while. You've been
like, stuck for a while. You've been trying
to figure shit out on your own, right? So a
lot of times by the time you're like, I'm

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desperate now, or I've banged my head
against the, you know, the wall enough
times, or I've been frustrated long enough,
or I've been like, I said, been suffering or

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in pain long enough, and then you you go
looking for external help. That's all great,
but even that, it requires, often, some
time, like, to first of all, build rapport

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and build trust, and then start to get some
information and some knowledge, and then
actually starting to apply it so that you
can learn it yourself, so that you're not

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you don't just end up regurgitating
information and things which I'm going to
talk about that at the end as well. Okay, so
if we insist on being in a rush, you know, I

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know people who try to, like, speed read
through books, or, you know, they'll say to
me, like, oh, yeah, I read that book. I read
that book. I know. I know, I know those two

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words. That is the antithesis of all
learning. I know I'm like, if you just walk
around thinking you know everything, if you
insist on having I know brain instead of,

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like, begin his mind right, then you you
aren't even teachable. You are not learnable
because you walk around thinking you know
everything. But these days, so much learning

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has been reduced to like Cliff Notes or
screenshots or quick takeaways. It's like
the five tips to this, the six steps to
that, the seven hacks to have a better

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whatever. Right. Right? We like everything,
like, distilled down to these little,
little, little sound bites and these little
clips and these little digestible things,

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which I'm not saying they don't have their
place, but you're missing out on the full
meal, right? It's the difference between
having, like, a SIP or a bite of something.

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And you're like, think you got it all
figured out from that one thing. I'm like,
No, you can't just eat that thing and then
know how to create the rest of the meal,

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right? Like, you gotta spend some time with
things. And here's the thing, we must be
willing. We must be willing, you know, to
slow down and be with things, to think about

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things, to try on things, to be in a process
and in a relationship with things, so that
we can assimilate, so that we can integrate,
so that we can spend time with implementing

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things. This takes time. This is what slow
learning is all about. Is not being in a
rush to try to get to some specific or
certain outcome, you know? I mean, it's so

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that you can actually start to understand
the information and implement it and
integrate it, so that you can start to own
it for yourself. And what a lot of people

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are good at is ingesting information, like
reading it or, you know, hearing it or
whatever. And then maybe they could do,
like, have aI write them some fucking Cliff

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Notes or whatever, some like show notes, or
some, like quick things where they can,
like, regurgitate it or whatever. But that's
not actually learning. That's just the

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ability to try and look smarter than you
are. And

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we often actually don't need more
information. I talk to a lot of people,
especially fellow entrepreneurs and stuff,
and they they like, oh my god, I have like a

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graveyard. I have, like a graveyard of
courses that I bought but never actually
did, or I listened to them, but I didn't
actually take any action, like I bought them

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and then they sat on my desktop, or they sat
in a folder, but I never actually went back
and did it or used it. We don't often need
more information. We seem to be actually

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overwhelmed and inundated. Our nervous
systems are completely overwhelmed by how
much input is coming in. What we actually
need is to kind of like, have better filt

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filtration systems. Maybe stop buying 8000
things, try to go deep on, maybe like one
thing, or find a teacher or a source that
you trust build, take time to build rapport

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or relationship with an actual human being,
and not just their quote, unquote content,
right? And then see if you can, then start
to learn some of those things and apply it

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trial and error, right? Try it. Fall down.
Screw up. Like, pick yourself up. Try it
again. You know what I'm saying. But again,
this takes time, like slow learning. And the

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other thing I was saying is like true
knowledge, like truly understanding
something, like truly having, quote,
unquote, learned, something that you can

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then apply to your own life, and maybe a
helpful way, or a healing way. True
Knowledge requires work. It requires some
effort, you know, and a lot of times, you

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know, I think about certain yoga teachers,
like, like people who have been around for a
wicked long time. I mean, I've been around
for a really long time, but there are people

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who have been around, you know, even longer
than me. And they said, one of the ways that
I learned how to be a great yoga teacher, or
a great teacher, is I basically spent time

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in my teacher's presence? Is that I like,
literally, like, spent as much time as I
could with them, and I watched them, and I
listened to them, and I noticed what they

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did, right? I even know one, one teacher who
had a guru that he cared for, like he
literally was put in his care, like he was,
like, tasked with caring for him. So he

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would, like, deliver his tea, and he would
deliver his meals, and he would listen to
his lectures, and he was learning, like, you
know, the system, the system of yoga from

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him. And this is like back in the day, but
he said, when he shaved his head, I would
shave my head. When he crossed his legs, I
would so he started to embody, and it's not

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about becoming like the other person, but it
is about sometimes learning the attributes
of that. And I think this is what is often,
where a lot of times it gets lost in

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Christianity, where I'm, like, the whole
point of like, you know, Jesus is, was an
embodiment of love. He was, like, the living
example of love. And you want to try, like,

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if you're a Christian, if that's your thing,
right? Then, then the point is, is to follow
in those footsteps of that deep level of.
Passion and love and not exclusivity, not

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hate, not shame, not exclusion, right? So I
think sometimes things get lost in
translation, but you gotta be willing to
spend some time in the presence of love to

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start to really understand it, because it's
not like most of us were brought up in
Wicked like some people I know, some people
I know, I think it's beautiful. They brought

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up and been brought up in home environments
where they felt really seen and encouraged
and heard and loved. And it's not that their
parents were perfect, but their parents had

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good emotional regulation and good emotional
intelligence. And they could own their shit
and apologize when they blew it and saw that
they were perfect people, but they

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understood they were imperfect, and so they
apologized, and they used their words, and
they taught their kids, you know, how to
have good self confidence and self esteem

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and self respect and self integrity and self
love. And not all of us grew up that way. So
true knowledge, I think, requires slow
learning. It requires us to spend time not

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just with like external teachers, but also
with ourselves, also with sources of like,
great information, or great knowledge or
great wisdom. And whether that's like, you

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know, I think about like A Course in
Miracles, like I've had like, a 30 year
relationship with with that material, right,
with that teaching tool. And I've had a

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wicked long relationship with yoga. I've had
a really long relationship with veganism.
Like, there are things that I've had really
long standing, you know, come from a

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lineage, like, come from a tradition, and
have spent time with, and those are the
things that I most confidently can share
with others, because I have my own point of

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view on those things. I've taken it in, and
I've spent enough time with them to actually
have an opinion or a thought or, you know,
might be able to share a perspective that

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other people find helpful, you know. And one
of the things that I often see these days as
I'm thinking about this slow learning, which
drives me kind of crazy, is that whole TLDR.

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I'll never forget the first time I saw TLDR.
And I'm like, I'm not hip enough to know
what that is, so I had to look up with the
cool like, what is it? What do the kids say?

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What is this? TLDR typed on a thing mean,
and it stood for too long, didn't read, oh
my god, the bullshit. I was just like, what
is happening right now? No, I understand to

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be fair, to be fair. I understand there
might be times where somebody is just doing
a post that just goes on and on and on and
on and on. It's like, what's the point like?

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Get to the point like, I didn't, you didn't
need to tell me those 17 things, right? But
a lot of times, things are more complicated
than a quick little spiritual meme or a

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little quote card or a little like one
minute blip from your podcast, right? Some
things need more space to be shared and to
be felt and to be understood. And I think

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we're becoming a little bit lazy. I think
we're becoming a little bit shallow, not all
of us, not everybody all the time. I'm not
saying and I'm not even finger wagging. I'm

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just so much of what this podcast is, is me
just looking around the world with my own
and we all have our own unique perspective.
This just happens to be mine. This is why

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it's the Karen Kenney show. It's just me
just kind of looking around and noticing
some things and reporting back what moves
me, what's exciting me, what's lighting me

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up, what I learned, what I don't like, what
I like, what you know, blah, blah, blah, you
know. This is, this is a podcast. This is a
show that, for me, is one of the ways that I

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get to spread more love in the world. And
one of the things that I think we're losing
at, and I think these things are just as
important, you know, we part of love, is

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being able to look at things and say, This
doesn't seem right. Is it just me? Right? Is
it just me? But the whole TLDR thing, it's a
lack of patience. It's a lack of, sometimes

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nervous system regulation to be able to sit
still long enough to think on a thing, or to
listen to a thing, or hear a thing or pay
attention to a thing. You know, we don't

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just have, like a loneliness epidemic. We
have a patience epidemic. And again, I don't
think the devices have really helped at all.
I think that that instant gratification,

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that seeking a quick fix, or that dopamine
hit, you know, it hasn't really served us.
And I think that in 2025 instead of going so
wide and so broad, like to me, I think

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there's a calling right now to have more
vertical living, to go deeper, to have more
depth in our relationships and our
experiences, and to not just try to get

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like, the like, like I said the, you know,
what are the things that? I called it fast
outcomes and quick results. You know, if
we're only as teachers and as people who.

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Have podcasts, or our coaches and mentors
and or share information. You know, if we
kowtow to what the algorithm wants in in
like, I'm just not really a person who

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really plays by the rules. And, trust me, I
think sometimes to myself, Man, I bet I
would. I would have like,

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maybe I would have more financial success,
or more whatever success, if I played by the
pace and the rule that most of the world
runs by. But I'm just not interested. And

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I'm it's not that I'm not interested because
I'm trying to be different or rebellious. It
just goes against the grain of who I am.
Like, I literally feel my body contract when

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I see most of the marketing and most of the
the way that the world is, like showing up
online, like, it's just not that fucking
interesting to me at all. And again, I'm not

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I'm not trying to be special. I'm just
trying to be myself. Like, here's an
alternative way, you guys, is we could
actually slow down and we could spend some

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time with some stuff, and we could go deep,
and we could really, really learn, because
one of the pitfalls of ingesting fast
information, and I'll give you an example.

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Here's an example. Okay, yoga teaches new.
Yoga teaches. So one of the things that a
lot of people don't know is that the way
that a lot of yoga studios survive, not all,

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but many. The way that they survive,
especially in this climate, is that they run
ytts. They run yoga teacher trainings.
That's where they get a good hit or a good

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bulk of their money, because a bunch of
people pay up front, like 3000 4000 whatever
it is, right? Doll is so the studio gets a
big cash infusion, which they can then pass

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out over the rest of the year to keep their
studio viable. Not saying all, just saying
many, I don't need the yoga police coming
for me. Okay, but one of the things that I

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often see as a Teacher of teachers, I am a
yoga teacher for yoga teachers, oftentimes,
and when I have done workshops and stuff
like that for other yoga teachers, what you

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realize, and especially with newbie
teachers. And this isn't, I'm not being
mean. I totally know why this happens. This
is what happens a lot of times. Is in the

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beginning, because they're basically fire
hose with a lot of information, right then
they're expected to, like, go out and teach,
because they're first of all trying to make

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not and not everybody who takes a ytt goes
on to teach. Sometimes they just do it for
their own self knowledge. They want to
understand more, right? They have no

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intention of teaching. So just understand
that everything that I'm saying has
exceptions and nuances, okay, but a lot of
times, new yoga teachers are fire hose with

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a lot of information, and then they want to
get back out there and start to make money.
First of all, they want to use this skill
set. They're excited. A lot of times it's

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ego, right? They want to be seen as a yoga
teacher or an authority in their field, or
whatever the whatever people think to be a
yoga teacher means. And then they also are

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trying to recoup the money that they just
invested in their in their training. But a
lot of times, in the beginning, they're
basically just parroting. Right? Think about

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what parrots do. They mimic. They hear what
they hear, what their owner does, and then
they just regurgitate it. They repeat it,
right? So in the beginning, a lot of times,

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what yoga teachers are doing is they're just
memorizing things. They're mimicking things,
and then they're parroting. They're
regurgitating them back often in the style

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and the voice of their teachers eventually,
over time, if you stick with it long enough
and you practice long enough what you
learned and you continue with your own

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practice, things will start to settle in.
You'll start to have your own perspective,
you'll start to have your own voice, you'll
start to have your own wisdom. But in the

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beginning they don't know how to do this,
and a lot of times what people do. And I'm
just using yoga teachers as an example,
because that's a field that I have a lot of

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experience in, right? So I've done this
workshop called Reading the room, like
reading the room with the teacher's eye. And
I've done workshops on assists, like hands

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on assists, and putting your hands on people
and knowing what to look for. So when you
have a room full of people in front of you
as a yoga teacher, and you're trying to keep

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everybody safe and have a good experience,
right? Teaching isn't just backing a bunch
of information at people. It's not Simon
Says. You have to be able to see how what

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you're saying is landing. You have to be
able to see through what their bodies are
doing, how their mind is interpreting what
you're saying. There's so much more to the

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whole process, and it is definitely a slow
learning process, because one of the things
that I do, there's an exercise that I do.
I'll often take a person, I put them in the

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middle of the room on a mat. I ask them to
show like, call out a pose, warrior two,
Virabhadrasana, whatever right come into
this pose. And then I just have all the yoga

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teachers stand around, and I say, tell me
what you see. Tell me what you see here.
Because one. Of the things that I often hear
from yoga students who have gone out into

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the world and taken classes in other studios
and with other people is they've often come
back and they've said they didn't correct me
once they I and they're like and I even saw

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some people like dada, dada, and I said, you
know, and they've given me feedback about
their experiences, and I've said, because a
lot of teachers actually don't know how to

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teach because they haven't spent enough time
first doing their own slow learning. They
know how to regurgitate, they know how to
memorize, they know how to create a

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sequence, and then they just back it out,
but they're not actually like able to serve
the people in front of them. They don't know
how to problem solve yet. They don't know

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what to do with that person who I put in the
middle of the room, because they might be
able to tell, well, it looks like their
knees too far forward, maybe or but

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sometimes they can't even see what the
problem is. And I'll say, tell me what you
see. And they freeze, and they all kind of
go quiet, and they all kind of look at me

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and they I'm like, This isn't like a test
where I'm trying to be mean. I'm trying to
help you to learn to see what the teacher's
eye and look at this is not when we try to

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do fast outcomes, fast results, immediate
like whatever, and when, when you have a
culture that is teaching for quit out quick
outcomes, you're not actually helping people

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to be able to help themselves. And I'm the
kind of person that when I mentor somebody
or coach somebody I like, I'm not
interested. I always say this. I'm not

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interested in creating co dependent
relationships. I love working with people
for long periods of time. That's why I love
when my one to one clients will do, like

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four months with me, maybe take a break,
come back, or do eight months straight, or a
year straight, or whatever it is, because we
get to go deep, and we get to have this time

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where those skill sets, those tools, those
things that I share, you know, they start to
become their own. They start to make sense,
because they have enough time to absorb

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them. They have enough time to spend time
with themselves and with this information,
to start to like alchemize it. I do think of
this work that I do as alchemy. You know,

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we're putting in some contents and we're
getting something else out of it. That's the
whole your story to your glory process. It's
an alchemization. It's, it's, it is a form.

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I say it's miracles and magic. There's a lot
that's happening there. But if you're not
willing to spend some time investing in
yourself, investing your energy, yeah, some

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money, your finances, your attention, your
willingness to learn, your willingness to
unlearn and relearn. I'm gonna do a whole
podcast about that. We gotta let shit

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percolate. You know what I'm saying? And
right now, I feel like we're all like, I
feel like I've been in a microwave. I just
feel like I'm in a microwave being zapped

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with all these rays and all this energy and
all this noise and all this bullshit, but
when you take the meal out of the microwave,
it tastes like crap. It doesn't even taste

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like food. It tastes kind of dead. All the
life, all the wisdom, everything's out of
it. There's no nutrients. There's no
nourishment, like we need, like, some crock

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pot. We need, like, some crock pot learning.
We need some nice, slow, low heat, little
bit of a simmer. You lift the lid. There's
an aroma. Some stuff is cooking. Some stuff

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is brewing, right? Some shit is happening.
You know what I'm saying? Oh, man, no more
microwaving. Maybe I should call this
episode microwave versus the crock pot.

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That's how it kind of feels. We want that
depth and flavor that comes from that
wisdom, that knowledge that comes from
slowing down, taking our time. There is so

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much wisdom as this. There is so much, so
much possibility in this and so now I'm
going to finally tell you the quote that
inspired this whole, this whole thing. So

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my, my, one of my, one of my former one to
one clients. What she basically said is, we
were talking about a particular book, and I
was talking about how this book is, is a

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great addition to a DSP, a daily spiritual
practice. And I was saying, how, oh, I send
this book to all of my one to one clients.
And this person said, Yeah, I was, I was

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very fortunate. I was a very fortunate
recipient of the book during my invaluable
one to one work with you. That's so sweet.
And they said, at one point, 1.01

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point, I am understanding more and more is
that I may not receive clarification
immediately while doing one to one work, but
it seems to percolate into fabulous aha

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moments. I am so grateful now. This is
something I have heard again and again.
Again, there are people who have worked with
me, like I said, some people for four

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months, six months a year, whatever, and
everybody learns a little bit differently.
There are people that pick up stuff, certain
things, like, right away. There are other

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people who they're like, three months out
and they're like, oh my god, I just had this
situation happen, and I just realized what
you've been telling me, right? I had, I have

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a friend and a client say to text me the
other day they posted something. They posted
something that Mel Robbins had posted, or
whatever. If you don't know who Mel Robbins

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is, she's like a online personality coach.
Has written a bunch of books, right? And
Mel, Mel said something, and I just wrote
underneath it to my my friend who shared it,

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and I just wrote, Yep, exactly. And they
wrote back, and they says, This is what you
this is exactly what you've been teaching me
all these years. And I'm like, Yep, exactly,

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right. I'm like, I may not be posted about
it all the time on social own media, but
there is sometimes clarifications in things
that start to happen over time. I've had

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people who do one to one work and they come
away and they're like, they're kind of a
little confused, and they're like,
sometimes, you know, not everybody, like,

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thinks like, this is the best experience of
my life. I've never had bad I've never had
bad feedback or anything like that. But what
often happens is, like I said, three months,

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six months, a year afterwards, I'll get,
sometimes years afterwards, I'll get a note
from somebody that says, Oh, my God, all
that work that we did together is starting

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to just show up in my life in the most
amazing ways. So what I'm trying to say is
slow learning is a really important thing.
And if we insist on microwaving things, if

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we insist on fast tracking things, if we're
only teaching as teachers for certain
outcomes. And you know, like the cliff note
version of this, because we like there are

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people who study the psychology of human
markets, meaning there are people who study
how people respond to the algorithm, to
time, to content. And people will say to me

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all the time, nobody wants to read some long
ass. And I'm like, You're wrong, because I
want to read it because I'm a reader and I'm
a writer and I love long form things, I will

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sit down and watch a two hour, three hour,
you know, Podcast. I'm a person who likes
there to be space in room for things to be
digested. Why do you think the Nest has been

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going on for years? Why do you think people
in the nest keep coming back, month after
month, year after year? Because they have
learned over all this time of being with me

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that it takes time for things to sink in, to
make sense, to become their own, to be
applicable, and it's through the process of
falling in love with the process and not

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just the quick outcome. So if there is
something that you want to learn, go all in
on it. Invest in it, spend some time with
it. Get to decide if it's really for you or

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not, you know, like, I just spent time some
of you, I think, know this. I think I've
mentioned this, like, this was my first time
in like 25 years. I've worked for myself for

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25 years, and I went into a little
adventure, and I went out into the world,
and I got, like, a part time gig for like
six months working with somebody else and

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for somebody else, and they're lovely, and I
had a great time, and I met amazing people,
and I realized, like, my my business me
doing my own thing, that's where it's at.

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But I'm so glad like that I trust myself,
and I'm adventurous enough and willing
enough to go out and do the thing and find
like, it's Fauci, right? You know me, I got

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a Fauci. I gotta fuck around and find out,
but I love going out and finding out things
about myself and finding out what really
works for me, and spending some time with

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things, and spending enough time that I can
make an educated, you know, not an educated
guess, but like an I can be an informed
decision. That's what I'm trying to say. So

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I hope this has been helpful in some way.
And those of you who have been listening to
this podcast, we're going to be coming up on
six years. I can't even believe it. We're

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going to be coming up on six years in like
300 episodes soon. So those of you who have
been hanging in with me, maybe you
understand better than anybody, how it is to

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continually to hear these things. This a
podcast, you know, yeah, it's usually done
fairly quickly or whatever, but it's, it's
kind of like over time, you might hear some

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repetition, some repeated things. I do that
on purpose because I know how learning
actually works. And it often takes time for
things to like, sink in. Karen, right? So

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less microwave con more, more crock pot,
more slow cooker, right? More slow learning
in 2025 and if you're interested right, in
learning from me, there's a bunch of fun

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ways you guys to spend time together. So if
you just go to my website, Karen kenney.com,
you'll see like all the different ways to
work with me, right? You can work with me

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one to one in the quest. That's just Karen
kenney.com/quest if you want to join my
group program, my group experience,
spiritual mentoring, that's Karen

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kenney.com/nest if you want to start doing
some online yoga, I'm teaching online yoga.
So now, no matter where you are in the
country or whatever you can tune in Tuesday

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nights at 6pm Eastern, and that's just Karen
kenney.com/yoga of course, you can always
just get on my email list, all those things,
all that stuff you can find on my website,

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and you could also just keep listening to
the show. But I do hope that I get to work
with some of you at some point, either in
the nest or one to one in the quest, or

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maybe I'll see you online in a workshop or a
yoga class or whatever. That would be
amazing. So I appreciate you guys. Thank you
so much for spending some time with me, for

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spending some slow time with me. If you made
it all the way to this episode, I really
appreciate it and you. And then wherever you
go, may you just take your time a little

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bit. May you go out into the world and just
like ease on down the road, keep it a little
slow and low right wherever you go. May you
leave yourself and the animals and the

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environment and the people in the planet
better than how you found them wherever you
go. May you be a blessing. Bye. Bye.