1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 On this episode, we discuss our favorite things to do with our kids based on their ages. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:19,000 You're listening to the Dudes and Dads podcast, a show dedicated to helping men be better dudes and dads by building community through meaningful conversation and storytelling. 3 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,000 And now, here are your hosts, Joel DeMotti and Andy Lehman. 4 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,000 Andy and I are in, I feel like our intro just growled at me. 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,720 I'm all over the place tonight. 6 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,120 I actually did this. 7 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,120 Wow. 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,320 All right, so I'm back. 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,320 Okay. 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:38,320 Well, hey, everybody. 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,400 Welcome to the dudes and dads podcast. 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:49,440 It's me, Joel, across the table from my intrepid cohost and dangerously handsome beard aficionado. 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:50,440 Andrew Lemon. 14 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,440 Hi, Andy. 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:52,440 Howdy, Joel. 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,840 It's another great time to be together. 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,280 It's a great time to be alive. It's a great time to be alive. The the feel 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,480 where we are in this midwestern part of the United States 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:11,360 The feel of fall is in the air. It is true. I mean it's starting to get crisp in the morning 20 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,920 Have you had a fire recently? 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,720 No, I've not had a fire recently. We got to fix that. I know it's fire weather 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:24,280 It is fire weather fire and pumpkin spice. No, not really. I don't I don't do the pumpkin spice thing 23 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:25,880 It's not for me. 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,380 It isn't for you? 25 00:01:27,380 --> 00:01:30,520 That indicates to me that you did try it at one point. 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,880 Yeah, I mean, it's okay, but I would rather, 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,880 if I'm gonna do something spicy like that, 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,520 I guess I'd rather go for a chai tea than pumpkin spice. 29 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,080 Well, okay, we've lost all of our listeners. 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,760 So for the two of you that remain here. 31 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:43,760 Listen, that's it. 32 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:44,960 (laughing) 33 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:47,360 No, the chai tea, I will say this. 34 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,440 I was super suspicious of it for quite some time, 35 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:51,800 started dabbling in it. 36 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:52,640 Just dabbled in it. 37 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,280 I will say, I will say, 38 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,640 Well, because I still remain, I'm just pretty much straightforward coffee, you know, well, 39 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:00,880 yeah, me too. 40 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:08,560 But speaking of which, I did just pick up a new coffee travel mug that I'm very excited 41 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:09,560 about. 42 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,960 Oh, made by me made by Stan. 43 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:13,960 It's a stand. 44 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:14,960 Oh, so you're on the Stanley cake. 45 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,680 You know, that's one of those things like I'm coming to be now Jean and then whatever, 46 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,680 whatever. 47 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,040 Now you're not now you're to Stanley and it's popular. 48 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,040 You're super popular. 49 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,760 I just like to stay in the no. 50 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,260 The reason being, there's a few weird things. 51 00:02:27,260 --> 00:02:31,580 Number one, because we do Aeropress, 52 00:02:31,580 --> 00:02:34,060 we've talked about Aeropress on here, 53 00:02:34,060 --> 00:02:35,180 the Aeropress fits right on, 54 00:02:35,180 --> 00:02:37,300 like it goes, I can just like hold it right on top 55 00:02:37,300 --> 00:02:39,460 and do it right directly into there, it's a good size. 56 00:02:39,460 --> 00:02:43,420 It also, I had some problems with the travel coffee mugs 57 00:02:43,420 --> 00:02:46,140 not fitting my car mug. 58 00:02:46,140 --> 00:02:48,300 - Oh yeah, I completely understand that. 59 00:02:48,300 --> 00:02:50,720 - And I just like, this is not acceptable. 60 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,300 So I had to find the right size. 61 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:57,640 And it is, it's spill proof, which that was the other problem. 62 00:02:57,640 --> 00:03:01,340 I had another coffee mug that was a travel one, 63 00:03:01,340 --> 00:03:03,300 but if it tipped it all or anything, 64 00:03:03,300 --> 00:03:06,140 the seal was not, was not substantial. 65 00:03:06,140 --> 00:03:06,980 - Ah, gotcha. 66 00:03:06,980 --> 00:03:07,820 So then you ended up having it. 67 00:03:07,820 --> 00:03:09,140 - Yeah, I just spilled around whatever. 68 00:03:09,140 --> 00:03:14,140 So this is the Stanley, it's, I will say, 69 00:03:14,140 --> 00:03:16,220 it's nice to look at. 70 00:03:16,220 --> 00:03:18,100 It's got a nice, it's got that nice- 71 00:03:18,100 --> 00:03:19,100 - It's beautiful if you would say. 72 00:03:19,100 --> 00:03:22,140 - Well, it's black, it's got the black, 73 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:25,140 go like powder coat finish to it. 74 00:03:25,140 --> 00:03:26,140 - Oh, sure, yeah. 75 00:03:26,140 --> 00:03:28,060 - It's very sleek, very nice. 76 00:03:28,060 --> 00:03:30,180 - But this is not the show about powder coating. 77 00:03:30,180 --> 00:03:32,980 - That's true, it's not the show about powder coating. 78 00:03:32,980 --> 00:03:34,700 Can I get off? 79 00:03:34,700 --> 00:03:37,020 It was the pumpkin spice. 80 00:03:37,020 --> 00:03:40,340 Anyway, yes, the feeling of fall is in the air 81 00:03:40,340 --> 00:03:44,700 and there's, and it does make me think 82 00:03:44,700 --> 00:03:47,940 about the various activities that you start doing 83 00:03:47,940 --> 00:03:49,860 in the fall, but then we got talking, we're like, 84 00:03:49,860 --> 00:03:57,540 Hey, we had a great recommendation by one of our favorite listeners, Mr. Jonathan Ortsler. 85 00:03:57,540 --> 00:03:58,540 Is that who sent this? 86 00:03:58,540 --> 00:03:59,540 That's who sent this one in. 87 00:03:59,540 --> 00:04:00,540 That's correct, yes. 88 00:04:00,540 --> 00:04:01,540 Jonathan, great idea. 89 00:04:01,540 --> 00:04:06,060 He said, "Hey, could there be a discussion about great things to do with your kids based 90 00:04:06,060 --> 00:04:07,740 on their age?" 91 00:04:07,740 --> 00:04:11,100 And I said to myself, "Self? 92 00:04:11,100 --> 00:04:12,100 That's a great idea." 93 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:13,100 Self? 94 00:04:13,100 --> 00:04:14,100 That's a great idea. 95 00:04:14,100 --> 00:04:17,340 That's why we love to get the recommendations from other people. 96 00:04:17,340 --> 00:04:19,740 So yeah, we're going to have, that's going to be our conversation today, Andy. 97 00:04:19,740 --> 00:04:24,740 But before we do that, we like to think our sponsors 98 00:04:24,740 --> 00:04:27,820 and it just so happens that our sponsor this evening 99 00:04:27,820 --> 00:04:30,740 is none other than podcast answers. 100 00:04:30,740 --> 00:04:35,740 Hey, if you want, if you want to learn 101 00:04:35,740 --> 00:04:39,180 how to start a podcast or grow your podcast, 102 00:04:39,180 --> 00:04:43,020 the podcast answer show is absolutely for you. 103 00:04:43,020 --> 00:04:45,100 Podcast answers, I've never said podcast 104 00:04:45,100 --> 00:04:46,300 in such rapid succession. 105 00:04:46,300 --> 00:04:47,980 - No, I haven't. - It's really good, I love it. 106 00:04:47,980 --> 00:04:52,460 Podcast answers is a weekly podcast going over the topics of podcasting. 107 00:04:52,460 --> 00:04:58,020 If you need more than just listening to a podcast to get the help you need, 108 00:04:58,020 --> 00:05:02,740 Mr. Andy Layman is here to help out. Uh, and he's embarrassingly, 109 00:05:02,740 --> 00:05:05,980 he's embarrassed and easy to find. So we'll make sure that you get a hold of him. 110 00:05:05,980 --> 00:05:10,220 But, uh, Andy, you do this show. I have, uh, I've watched it. I've, 111 00:05:10,220 --> 00:05:12,900 I've, I've learned a few things along the way. I'll just, 112 00:05:12,900 --> 00:05:16,220 I'll just say, cause as we were all very clear, as I say it all the time, 113 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:18,260 I have no idea what's going on in the show. 114 00:05:18,260 --> 00:05:21,060 I don't even know right now how it's possible 115 00:05:21,060 --> 00:05:22,540 that I'm even able to hear myself. 116 00:05:22,540 --> 00:05:24,260 And yet, I can. 117 00:05:24,260 --> 00:05:28,780 And it's magic and it's Andy Lehman. 118 00:05:28,780 --> 00:05:30,060 And it's all the great content 119 00:05:30,060 --> 00:05:32,700 that you get to encounter on podcast answers. 120 00:05:32,700 --> 00:05:34,660 So check it out, reach out to Andy. 121 00:05:34,660 --> 00:05:36,580 He's happy to get you up and going. 122 00:05:36,580 --> 00:05:43,900 People make a few assumptions about podcasting. 123 00:05:43,900 --> 00:05:47,900 They think, uh, you just show up and, uh, talk into a microphone. 124 00:05:47,900 --> 00:05:52,800 And while that is technically true, there's a lot more that goes on, uh, behind the scenes. 125 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,560 There's a lot of technical know-how. 126 00:05:54,560 --> 00:06:00,500 Uh, there's some audiological know-how and there is some, uh, some personality 127 00:06:00,500 --> 00:06:05,720 know-how too, which, uh, again, I've struck it out all three of those things, but 128 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,520 podcast answers, check it out. 129 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:13,660 Uh, so Andy, um, we have, we've been having this show kind of in the, in the 130 00:06:13,660 --> 00:06:14,980 the Hapa as they say. 131 00:06:14,980 --> 00:06:17,860 Yeah, it's been on our list for a while. 132 00:06:17,860 --> 00:06:20,620 It was a while ago that Jonathan suggested this, 133 00:06:20,620 --> 00:06:25,780 but he did suggest that we do this. 134 00:06:25,780 --> 00:06:27,620 And so we are gonna be doing this, 135 00:06:27,620 --> 00:06:29,220 we're doing this show right now. 136 00:06:29,220 --> 00:06:33,060 And we've broken it, we've broken this down into 137 00:06:33,060 --> 00:06:34,020 age groups. 138 00:06:34,020 --> 00:06:37,540 And so we've broken it down into grade one through five, 139 00:06:37,540 --> 00:06:40,620 grade six through eight, and then grade nine through 12 140 00:06:40,620 --> 00:06:43,500 are the three things that we've... 141 00:06:43,500 --> 00:06:43,980 Yes. 142 00:06:43,980 --> 00:06:44,700 We've broken it up. 143 00:06:44,700 --> 00:06:46,140 Well, actually, no, sorry, four. 144 00:06:46,140 --> 00:06:47,100 I can't count apparently. 145 00:06:47,100 --> 00:06:50,680 You did preschool grade one through five grades six through eight and then nine 146 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:51,700 through 12, nine through 12. 147 00:06:51,700 --> 00:06:58,560 So the high school years, uh, Andy, I want to say, uh, that your first idea with 148 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,980 the preschool age, uh, borderline genius, right. 149 00:07:02,980 --> 00:07:04,660 I had not even thought of this yet. 150 00:07:04,660 --> 00:07:06,460 So, so this is what I'll go ahead and start. 151 00:07:06,460 --> 00:07:11,220 So when my kids were young, we were living fairly close to a lows. 152 00:07:11,220 --> 00:07:11,700 You were. 153 00:07:11,700 --> 00:07:12,260 That's right. 154 00:07:12,260 --> 00:07:15,860 And so it was one of those things where we were just like, okay, what do I do? 155 00:07:15,860 --> 00:07:16,380 What do I do? 156 00:07:16,380 --> 00:07:21,020 Um, let's go look at tools and my boys at the time, that's all we had at the time. 157 00:07:21,020 --> 00:07:24,580 And they're like, they love going to the tool store and just looking at tools. 158 00:07:24,580 --> 00:07:27,260 And it's great because I don't have to spend any money. 159 00:07:27,260 --> 00:07:27,740 Exactly. 160 00:07:27,740 --> 00:07:28,020 Right. 161 00:07:28,020 --> 00:07:31,820 And I can walk around for a couple, you know, an hour at least and we're just 162 00:07:31,820 --> 00:07:32,780 looking at different things. 163 00:07:32,780 --> 00:07:34,260 It's kind of like a tool museum. 164 00:07:34,260 --> 00:07:34,620 Really? 165 00:07:34,620 --> 00:07:35,060 Really? 166 00:07:35,060 --> 00:07:35,860 It kind of is. 167 00:07:35,860 --> 00:07:39,700 Cause everything's like out there on display and the kids as they're young. 168 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:43,580 And I would say, you know, it probably goes, and this is, 169 00:07:43,580 --> 00:07:45,940 so this is one thing you can start off with when they're, 170 00:07:45,940 --> 00:07:48,840 when they're little is just talking to them about the tools, 171 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,580 but I would say talk, talk with them about the tools, 172 00:07:52,580 --> 00:07:53,580 talk with them about the tools. 173 00:07:53,580 --> 00:07:59,420 But like even now, like Josiah, for instance, who's 12, 174 00:07:59,420 --> 00:08:03,020 there's on the regular hill, you know, 175 00:08:03,020 --> 00:08:04,140 when we're the hardware store or whatever, 176 00:08:04,140 --> 00:08:07,380 he'll ask me kind of like some of the more obscure tools and things. 177 00:08:07,380 --> 00:08:08,620 He'll ask me like what they do. 178 00:08:09,460 --> 00:08:13,940 Of course, I gotta be on my toes because usually I know what the things do, 179 00:08:13,940 --> 00:08:15,660 but every once in a while there's like the weird one. 180 00:08:15,660 --> 00:08:17,300 That's what like the quick Google is for. 181 00:08:17,300 --> 00:08:19,860 You're like, uh, what does this tool do? 182 00:08:19,860 --> 00:08:24,340 And it's great when they have the QR codes up there that you can just like scan. 183 00:08:24,340 --> 00:08:25,100 Great. 184 00:08:25,100 --> 00:08:27,500 Cause then you can, you can find all about the tool. 185 00:08:27,500 --> 00:08:28,100 Yeah. 186 00:08:28,100 --> 00:08:30,580 And yeah, not, I have to actually know the tool. 187 00:08:30,580 --> 00:08:35,700 I'm trying to think, Andy, if there would be, um, like a similar experience you could 188 00:08:35,700 --> 00:08:37,260 have, like, and I, I get it. 189 00:08:37,260 --> 00:08:38,820 like, yes, the hardware store. 190 00:08:38,820 --> 00:08:43,580 And, and I'm thinking of even, um, like, there's of course lows, 191 00:08:43,580 --> 00:08:47,580 but you know what I love is the small town, old school hardware stores. 192 00:08:47,580 --> 00:08:48,340 Yeah, those are good. 193 00:08:48,340 --> 00:08:55,660 We have, we have a few of those in our area that it's, um, gosh, we would, 194 00:08:55,660 --> 00:09:01,060 we would say, uh, it's more than just a hardware store. 195 00:09:01,060 --> 00:09:03,960 It's kind of a whole experience. 196 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:04,580 Yeah, it is. 197 00:09:04,620 --> 00:09:08,420 There's like, there's toys, there's like home goods, 198 00:09:08,420 --> 00:09:10,820 there's all this different kind of stuff. 199 00:09:10,820 --> 00:09:12,980 And you can just walk around for quite some time 200 00:09:12,980 --> 00:09:14,420 and get a little lost. 201 00:09:14,420 --> 00:09:15,980 - Right, and it's good 'cause it's a little bit 202 00:09:15,980 --> 00:09:17,180 of everything for everybody. 203 00:09:17,180 --> 00:09:18,780 - Yeah, and so, but to your point, 204 00:09:18,780 --> 00:09:22,060 you can kill some time if you need to. 205 00:09:22,060 --> 00:09:24,820 You can get the kids out of the house. 206 00:09:24,820 --> 00:09:26,820 Maybe that's the thing. 207 00:09:26,820 --> 00:09:28,500 If you've got young ones, 208 00:09:28,500 --> 00:09:31,340 I know you had this experience, I had this experience. 209 00:09:31,340 --> 00:09:35,540 where it's like, I need at least take one or two of them 210 00:09:35,540 --> 00:09:38,060 and give someone else a break. 211 00:09:38,060 --> 00:09:39,260 - Usually it's the wife. 212 00:09:39,260 --> 00:09:40,100 - Usually it's the wife. 213 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:41,540 - Yeah, no, no, that's what, I mean, for me, 214 00:09:41,540 --> 00:09:42,380 that's what we did. 215 00:09:42,380 --> 00:09:43,740 We just kind of walked around for a while 216 00:09:43,740 --> 00:09:45,740 and again, it got us out of the house, 217 00:09:45,740 --> 00:09:48,940 got us something new to do and just, 218 00:09:48,940 --> 00:09:51,900 they could touch the tools and it was great. 219 00:09:51,900 --> 00:09:54,980 What about you for like birth to preschool? 220 00:09:54,980 --> 00:09:56,820 What was your favorite thing to do with your kids? 221 00:09:56,820 --> 00:10:00,000 - Yes, the young thing with the kids. 222 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,860 Now, here's what I will say. 223 00:10:01,860 --> 00:10:04,720 Initially, we were really fortunate 224 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:05,560 when we lived in South Bend. 225 00:10:05,560 --> 00:10:07,720 We lived right across from the zoo. 226 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:08,560 - Oh yeah. 227 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:09,880 You could hear the animals from your house. 228 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,320 - We could hear the animals. 229 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:16,640 They've recently, I think they've recently updated, 230 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,280 I was gonna say updated the animals. 231 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:19,680 I think I got younger animals. 232 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:21,320 We lived across from the lion. 233 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,720 We found out we lived across from the lion exhibit 234 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,520 and the lions that lived there were getting older. 235 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,760 And so their roar, their roar wasn't quite as majestic 236 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,680 as it may have been in years past. 237 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:39,680 It sounded more like, how would I say this? 238 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:41,800 Like-- - Like a dying dog? 239 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,040 - Kind of like a, like if you imagine a lion 240 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,640 kind of yawning and dying at the same time. 241 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:49,480 - Oh. 242 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,400 - Like that was an interesting sound. 243 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:52,920 I won't try to replicate it here. 244 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:53,760 - Please, thank you. 245 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:54,600 - It was something. 246 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,160 But we would do the zoo. 247 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,680 But here's the thing. 248 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:07,600 We would go to the zoo or we would see an animal and then we would like, there were 249 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:12,760 times where the kids would be like, would want to know more about them or you can do 250 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:18,680 like YouTube videos of the animals and see them like in the wild. 251 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:23,240 Like, you know, because like for instance at the zoo we were at, they have this whole 252 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:28,240 exhibit of prairie dogs and you can actually like get relatively close to them because 253 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:33,560 they're, but they have this whole mound that you can like, like, I guess stand around kind 254 00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:36,560 of and you can see, you know, see all of them, like stick their heads, whatever, but it 255 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:40,440 doesn't, it's hard for you to get the vision of like what it's like out in the wild. So 256 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,200 to go, you can like see those and then go and then we do, you know, do a YouTube video 257 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:50,040 and that kind of thing. That was, that's sometimes interesting. Um, that was, and that 258 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,440 We did that. That was a big thing when they were little. 259 00:11:52,440 --> 00:12:03,520 The other thing I would say is, did a lot of... We actually went on walks. 260 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:04,520 Yeah. 261 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,400 I think you guys did that. Got on a walk? 262 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:12,800 Yeah, we did that a lot because I got energy out and we would always, especially on that 263 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,480 young age. I mean, I like that still now, but on those younger ages, I liked it because 264 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,920 You could kind of go and make it an adventure. 265 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,720 You could, if there was something to play on or around like a, you know, 266 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,200 a fire hydrant or something like that, you could always go and you could always 267 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:35,400 find something to do and something to, to be able to entertain you while you were 268 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,080 walking. 269 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:36,920 So yeah. 270 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:37,240 Yeah. 271 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,360 And the neighborhood that we were in, so when we live in, and this is again, 272 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,840 when we were younger, we lived in South Bend, Indiana. 273 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:48,360 And there's a section that was actually the kind of the next block over from us, 274 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:53,880 known as East Jefferson. And it's some of the most historic, like historic old homes. 275 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:54,760 Oh, sure. Yeah. 276 00:12:54,760 --> 00:13:01,080 Like a high concentration of them. And so I think as the kids got just a little bit, 277 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,520 like a little bit older where they were walking with us, you know, we would, 278 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,760 we would kind of like point out the different things about the houses and like what made them 279 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,800 different and you know things that were interesting and you know because they were the houses were 280 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:20,040 much larger than the one that we were when we were living at. But you know I think the interesting 281 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:25,320 thing there was is to help them become like more aware of the world around them. Oh yeah. 282 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:30,040 And to like kind of because you don't really if you think about it from the perspective of a kid 283 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:36,760 like their world can actually be quite small right like what they're exposed they have their 284 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,360 daily routines and things like that and what they're exposed to and what they see. 285 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:46,200 And even though like years and years later, if I bet you if I asked Josiah right now, 286 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,400 like, "Hey, do you remember we used to go on those walks on East Jefferson and look at all the 287 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:56,840 houses?" He might have like some maybe fleeting memory of that. But it sets kind of a, 288 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:03,720 kind of sets an importance like that we do things like that as a family. 289 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:04,560 Oh, sure. 290 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:06,320 And that it doesn't always have to be, 291 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,320 I think that we can feel this, like, I don't know, 292 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:10,600 probably feel this pressure that everything 293 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,600 that we do with our kids has to be some, 294 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,400 like major epic event, but I think simple things like that 295 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:21,480 that require you to kind of, yeah, 296 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,180 taking your surroundings slow down a little bit. 297 00:14:24,180 --> 00:14:27,680 You're just at walking, you know, your walking pace. 298 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,280 Those are really, really good things. 299 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,160 And even better, like when we go walking, 300 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,920 the best thing we can do is that we just leave the phones. 301 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,160 - Sure, well, I mean, when they're that young, 302 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,400 they're not gonna have a phone, but now, 303 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,800 and that's a good time to not only leave your phone home, 304 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,080 but it allows you to also have 305 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,480 that good one-on-one conversation. 306 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:52,680 'Cause they're guards down. 307 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,960 I mean, it's a little bit weird when you're like, 308 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,240 just when you're just around the house and like, 309 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,360 hey, like how was your day? 310 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:04,720 But like it's not, not weird, but I mean, if you're, I want to say that not, not trapped, 311 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:05,720 but that sounds weird. 312 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:10,440 But I mean, like if you're in the car going somewhere, you can, as a dad, bring up those 313 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,640 conversations and they can't run anywhere. 314 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,160 And same thing when you're on a walk, like you can bring up those conversations and you 315 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:20,600 can have some of those, even tough conversations because you're not necessarily in the house, 316 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,800 but you're out and. 317 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,800 A setting change is really, really important. 318 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:25,800 Yeah. 319 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,960 something, and I'm sure a neuroscientist could tell me all about it, but like when you're, 320 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:36,440 the nature of conversation interaction when you're moving versus, versus sitting, like you said, 321 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:41,080 or like, you know, the, the, the change in, the change in atmosphere and the change in what you're 322 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:47,720 doing, I probably do a lot better. I've, I've found this for myself and this is true for your 323 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:52,040 kids. Like you do better thinking and better expressing when you're like, when you're moot, 324 00:15:52,040 --> 00:16:00,120 when you're moving. Oh yeah. For sure. So yeah, so take the walks, take the tours of, 325 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:10,040 I mean, depending on, and maybe that's even in the slightly older age, like walking through places 326 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:16,200 where you normally would just drive by or would not be surrounded by. Yeah. And that was kind of 327 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:23,260 of a thing that we would do, yeah, on a semi regular basis, I think. 328 00:16:23,260 --> 00:16:28,760 So moving on to grades one through five, and I know that that's a huge, like there's a 329 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,640 big age range there, and I purposely kind of broke it down there, but so it's going 330 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:40,540 to be a little bit hard to say favorite things. And for us, like, I'm evenly split boy girl, 331 00:16:40,540 --> 00:16:45,760 you are heavily on the boy versus girl, you have a girl, but you're not evenly split. So 332 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:53,000 Some of these things may be more geared towards men or boys, whereas some things that I say 333 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,360 may be both. 334 00:16:54,360 --> 00:17:04,480 But for me, I would say I've got kids who are like to do legowy things and drawing and 335 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,120 creating art. 336 00:17:06,120 --> 00:17:10,760 And so even now, and I've done that with, and so this isn't, for me, doesn't even really 337 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,080 apply necessarily just for grade one through five. 338 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:19,880 And sometimes that's because I have kids that span almost all of these, these, I do have 339 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,560 kids that span all of these age groups. 340 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:27,120 Well, not birth to preschool, but the other ones, like all of my kids fit in there somewhere. 341 00:17:27,120 --> 00:17:31,520 And so sometimes I find myself doing these things with multiple groups. 342 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:32,520 Yeah. 343 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,880 But, but like creating for me, creating like art and drawing are kind of fun because you 344 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:41,320 can just go and you can do that a couple of different ways for us. 345 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,840 We've done it where we just take a coloring book and color. 346 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,560 And I like doing that because it's fun, even though I'm an adult, like it's kind of fun 347 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,040 to get other crayons in color. 348 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,480 The coloring stuff, and how that you've said that, I'm like, why not? 349 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,840 That would probably help me out a lot. 350 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,280 Just calm down a little bit. 351 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:03,560 Well, and I mean, I think that not only that, but we've also done it where we will start 352 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,080 a drawing and we'll have a timer going. 353 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,000 And then at the end of the timer, you pass the drawing to the other person and then start 354 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,760 another timer and they complete your drawing. 355 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,960 And it's kind of fun, especially if you have two or three people playing that, because 356 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,560 that allows you to get some kind of a real cool creativity in there. 357 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:18,560 That's a great idea. 358 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:19,560 That's a great idea. 359 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,720 That's something that I think that's probably one of those things that no matter, like you 360 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:29,480 said, no matter the age, there's kind of, you can kind of cross over the age boundaries 361 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,480 there. 362 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:36,200 My other, so you, okay, so I have a question because this is always the debate we have of 363 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,200 what you do with all the art. 364 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,000 So a lot of times we throw it away. 365 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Oh, geez. 366 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,760 No, I mean, like sometimes we'll leave it up. 367 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:46,760 But it was interesting. 368 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:52,320 So the other day, and again, this is the reason I say that it kind of spans the grays is I 369 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:57,480 started doing, I don't remember if it was just with, I think it was me and Hattie. 370 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:02,160 And we had an index card and I just started doodling all over and like making like interesting 371 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,160 line art. 372 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,760 And the next thing I know Eli was like, oh, that's really cool. 373 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,800 And he started doing the same thing and doing it with us. 374 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,360 We kept those around for a few days and then I got rid of mine. 375 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:18,600 And yeah, that's especially on those game type things where you're drawing like that 376 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,760 because then it don't feel so bad because it's not just a real handy or regular. 377 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,400 You're doing the art for the sake of the game. 378 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,360 Right. Not necessarily for having an art because then you're like, 379 00:19:28,360 --> 00:19:31,720 if it's them just creating art, then you like kind of feel bad because you're 380 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:32,960 getting rid of their art. 381 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,240 But if you're doing it as a game, then it's kind of like, well, the game's over. 382 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,920 Let's throw it away. Yeah, I'd like to know that's an interesting thing. 383 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,520 I've seen and I've thought about doing it. 384 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:47,560 The there are some pretty inexpensive like art display options for. 385 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,600 I don't know if you've seen them where their frames kind of that 386 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,000 like if your kids are writing on like a regular piece of paper, 387 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,880 you can put their artwork in the in the frame, but the frame just like folds down 388 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,520 and it like you can stack multiple. Oh, OK. 389 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,660 So you keep it all, but you don't, it's all like, it's all kind of in there and one sort 390 00:20:04,660 --> 00:20:05,660 of thing. 391 00:20:05,660 --> 00:20:09,660 And I've thought like, especially for Molly, who I think really enjoys exactly kind of 392 00:20:09,660 --> 00:20:12,900 talking about like, Hey, this, here's this drawing. 393 00:20:12,900 --> 00:20:14,780 It's like, that's really cool. 394 00:20:14,780 --> 00:20:16,380 And I'd like to put that up somewhere. 395 00:20:16,380 --> 00:20:18,300 Our refrigerator is only so large. 396 00:20:18,300 --> 00:20:19,300 Um, right. 397 00:20:19,300 --> 00:20:20,300 You can try to find this. 398 00:20:20,300 --> 00:20:24,260 Well, and then the other thing we did is, is like Lego creations and that's fun because 399 00:20:24,260 --> 00:20:27,300 it gets kind of that same art type. 400 00:20:27,300 --> 00:20:31,500 It helps the brain move around and helps the brain formulate things. 401 00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:35,340 And so, you know, even if it's not just doing like the set art where you're, 402 00:20:35,340 --> 00:20:38,100 the set Lego sets where you're putting them together, but like coming up with 403 00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:41,700 something creative and, and again, that's one of those things where you don't 404 00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:43,460 necessarily feel bad wrecking it at the end of the night. 405 00:20:43,460 --> 00:20:47,300 Cause you say, Hey, we've, we've got to put this away and you do it. 406 00:20:47,300 --> 00:20:50,780 Do you guys have the, the bin of Legos? 407 00:20:50,780 --> 00:20:50,900 Yeah. 408 00:20:50,900 --> 00:20:55,340 We have like the, the giant bin, but then especially with Eli, so Eli still 409 00:20:55,340 --> 00:21:00,100 does a lot of Legos and he's now into the ones where he likes to get the sets and do 410 00:21:00,100 --> 00:21:01,300 them and leave them up. 411 00:21:01,300 --> 00:21:02,300 Yeah. 412 00:21:02,300 --> 00:21:03,300 Instead of just playing with them. 413 00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:08,300 And so he's got several on his desk that he has created and set up and he wants to keep 414 00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:09,300 them there. 415 00:21:09,300 --> 00:21:12,460 They're more of art projects for him now as opposed to just creating Legos. 416 00:21:12,460 --> 00:21:13,460 Yeah. 417 00:21:13,460 --> 00:21:17,460 And I would say we've probably crossed into that some too. 418 00:21:17,460 --> 00:21:24,700 There has been some debate in my household about who owns what set and where they should 419 00:21:24,700 --> 00:21:31,420 So I've got a, like this year I'm like, okay, if we get any Lego sets as gifts, I'm, I'm 420 00:21:31,420 --> 00:21:34,220 going to write their, I'm going to have to like write their names on the outside of the 421 00:21:34,220 --> 00:21:36,620 boxes and because it's like this whole thing. 422 00:21:36,620 --> 00:21:38,260 But yeah, very much so. 423 00:21:38,260 --> 00:21:46,580 Just I's got a bunch of various like automobiles, like with the techniques stuff, like he's, 424 00:21:46,580 --> 00:21:51,620 he's got set up and I know that I feel like I'm running out of, I got to keep putting 425 00:21:51,620 --> 00:21:55,060 like more shelves up in their rooms to display. 426 00:21:55,060 --> 00:21:57,180 But yeah, Legos are fantastic. 427 00:21:57,180 --> 00:22:01,860 Oh, we still have the one of the bins that we have of just like the loose Legos 428 00:22:01,860 --> 00:22:05,700 dates back all the way to my brother and I. Oh, wow. 429 00:22:05,700 --> 00:22:11,060 And we've we've we've kept that through through multiple moves and all that, 430 00:22:11,060 --> 00:22:15,900 which I'm sure, you know, I'm sure there's somebody out there that. 431 00:22:15,900 --> 00:22:21,020 Well, like the thing is with Legos now is that you can 432 00:22:21,020 --> 00:22:23,100 And what is it? 433 00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:27,860 There's different like Lego services where you can like tell people like the Legos that 434 00:22:27,860 --> 00:22:33,340 you have and I think that they can show you kit like what you can build with them. 435 00:22:33,340 --> 00:22:34,340 All that kind of stuff. 436 00:22:34,340 --> 00:22:36,220 So super, super interesting. 437 00:22:36,220 --> 00:22:37,220 Super cool. 438 00:22:37,220 --> 00:22:39,940 What about for you for the fifth, first, fifth grade? 439 00:22:39,940 --> 00:22:40,940 Yeah. 440 00:22:40,940 --> 00:22:41,940 What's your, what's your go to activity? 441 00:22:41,940 --> 00:22:45,380 Go to activity with them. 442 00:22:45,380 --> 00:22:48,460 I would say let's try to think about this. 443 00:22:48,460 --> 00:22:52,420 Like this is the age where they all started playing, 444 00:22:52,420 --> 00:22:56,460 at least they're playing at least doing a lot of sports stuff, 445 00:22:56,460 --> 00:22:58,260 more sports sort of related things. 446 00:22:58,260 --> 00:23:05,620 And that tends to be the things that I'm doing with them. 447 00:23:05,620 --> 00:23:10,300 It's interesting, 'cause like as you ask, 448 00:23:10,300 --> 00:23:11,860 it's like outside of that, it's like, 449 00:23:11,860 --> 00:23:15,820 what other activities do we do? 450 00:23:16,980 --> 00:23:18,540 And I would say it's probably an area 451 00:23:18,540 --> 00:23:19,480 that we probably need to work, 452 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:20,700 we actually need to work at. 453 00:23:20,700 --> 00:23:24,580 And 'cause I think a lot of it is kind of like athletics 454 00:23:24,580 --> 00:23:29,100 or like Molly had her, 455 00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:33,740 she did her like her dance stuff or like gymnastics. 456 00:23:33,740 --> 00:23:36,100 I'm probably not very good at gymnastics. 457 00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:38,420 Molly's actually here in the studio right now. 458 00:23:38,420 --> 00:23:40,420 Have I ever done gymnastics with you? 459 00:23:40,420 --> 00:23:42,660 No? 460 00:23:42,660 --> 00:23:44,300 I think it could be kind of scary 461 00:23:44,300 --> 00:23:45,980 if you were to see me do gymnastics. 462 00:23:45,980 --> 00:23:47,980 - You wearing like a tutu would be, 463 00:23:47,980 --> 00:23:49,300 a ballerina tutu would be bad. 464 00:23:49,300 --> 00:23:52,820 - That's overly graphic. 465 00:23:52,820 --> 00:23:56,300 So yeah, I'm trying to think of, 466 00:23:56,300 --> 00:24:00,380 trying to think of other activities that we have done. 467 00:24:00,380 --> 00:24:05,060 The kids do like, we've done like movie nights, 468 00:24:05,060 --> 00:24:07,300 like that's something that we've done. 469 00:24:07,300 --> 00:24:11,260 I think in general you can find, 470 00:24:11,260 --> 00:24:13,740 right now it seems like we can find movies 471 00:24:13,740 --> 00:24:18,740 that they all still enjoy watching together for the most part. 472 00:24:18,740 --> 00:24:21,120 I think that can be kind of the challenge of like, 473 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:24,540 you know, what kind of all holds their, 474 00:24:24,540 --> 00:24:28,740 you know, holds their interest or whatever, but yeah. 475 00:24:28,740 --> 00:24:32,060 There's, we do the, we'll do the movie nights. 476 00:24:32,060 --> 00:24:38,580 We, I don't know if there's anything else. 477 00:24:38,580 --> 00:24:41,180 Sometimes, we're probably not even saying this, 478 00:24:41,180 --> 00:24:42,780 that we should look into it. 479 00:24:42,780 --> 00:24:48,340 During the fall in particular, I have memories of doing this when I was younger. 480 00:24:48,340 --> 00:24:50,840 I'd like to do it with them. 481 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,340 Do fall canoeing, like fall canoeing trips. 482 00:24:54,340 --> 00:25:04,460 When the leaves start to change along the river, it's lovely. 483 00:25:04,460 --> 00:25:07,020 That's Molly coughing in the background. 484 00:25:07,020 --> 00:25:12,980 But yeah, I think, I think a lot of like outdoor stuff, things like that. 485 00:25:12,980 --> 00:25:13,980 And that's, that's good. 486 00:25:13,980 --> 00:25:14,480 Yeah. 487 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:21,180 And that, so that's for me still to even that age, age range, especially like 488 00:25:21,180 --> 00:25:23,380 how he will ask me to play with her a lot outside. 489 00:25:23,380 --> 00:25:26,680 And so going outside and playing is fun. 490 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,020 And then I guess moving on to grades six through eight, for me, I remember a lot of 491 00:25:31,020 --> 00:25:35,780 playing football, especially with the boys, not just the boys though, we would, 492 00:25:35,780 --> 00:25:38,500 Yeah. We didn't do so much this year and I kind of missed it. 493 00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:41,300 I want to actually do it again, but we still, there's still time, right? 494 00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:44,860 I mean, it's football season, but grades six or eight. 495 00:25:44,860 --> 00:25:48,020 I remember, you know, specifically just playing, you know, pick up games 496 00:25:48,020 --> 00:25:50,700 or keep away or whatever in the yard. 497 00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:53,980 And my boys like to do, maybe you guys do it where they do. 498 00:25:53,980 --> 00:25:56,420 What do they call it? Jackpot? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 499 00:25:56,420 --> 00:25:59,580 We're like, though, I promise my arm is not that good anymore. 500 00:25:59,580 --> 00:26:04,820 I don't know that it ever was, but yeah, that's the, well, you know, 501 00:26:04,820 --> 00:26:09,460 it when they are able to throw the ball, like, like throw it better, like 502 00:26:09,460 --> 00:26:12,380 right. Better than you. Yeah. Totally. You guys like that too. 503 00:26:12,380 --> 00:26:16,460 But yeah. So for me, that's six through eight is a lot, was a lot of that playing, 504 00:26:16,460 --> 00:26:20,940 um, playing ball in the yard, playing soccer, playing whatever we had, 505 00:26:20,940 --> 00:26:24,820 just kind of on a fall night where we're after dinner, going out and playing 506 00:26:24,820 --> 00:26:30,100 outside in the yard. Um, uh, yeah, that, for me, that, that's what I would say 507 00:26:30,180 --> 00:26:31,460 for those age ranges. 508 00:26:31,460 --> 00:26:37,540 Yeah. And, you know, more and more and more so, it feels like, 509 00:26:37,540 --> 00:26:41,900 you know, I think part of it is finding the, um, 510 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:46,020 it's like kind of fighting for the space and the time to do, like to do those, 511 00:26:46,020 --> 00:26:48,300 those sort of things. I know, you know, 512 00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:50,860 this always brings up for me as I've been thinking about this and sitting here. 513 00:26:50,860 --> 00:26:54,660 It's like there's, um, 514 00:26:54,660 --> 00:27:00,020 there's always this, like once I get home, there's many times it's like, gosh, 515 00:27:00,020 --> 00:27:03,140 there's like any number of things to do, right? 516 00:27:03,140 --> 00:27:06,540 You know, while we're trying to do this, 517 00:27:06,540 --> 00:27:09,460 and then when you're asking, 518 00:27:09,460 --> 00:27:10,620 but when you are asking the question, 519 00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:11,780 and when you're thinking about like, 520 00:27:11,780 --> 00:27:13,460 okay, what are the specific things that we can't, 521 00:27:13,460 --> 00:27:14,480 that we can do? 522 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,580 Yeah, there's just a level of intentionality, I guess, 523 00:27:18,580 --> 00:27:22,220 with thinking about that and figuring out, 524 00:27:22,220 --> 00:27:24,500 you know, figuring out those activities. 525 00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:28,980 The, I would say, yeah, Matthew, so Matthew's now 10, 526 00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:33,020 And then Aaron is going to be here 14 and just a couple of months. 527 00:27:33,020 --> 00:27:37,940 Um, the, uh, getting outside and throwing the ball around is good. 528 00:27:37,940 --> 00:27:39,580 Um, kicking the, kicking the ball. 529 00:27:39,580 --> 00:27:44,820 They, our kids like to, um, they've actually invented, and I'm not even sure I fully, 530 00:27:44,820 --> 00:27:46,540 they've tried to explain the rules to me. 531 00:27:46,540 --> 00:27:49,900 They've invented a couple of games that they play in our back, our backyard. 532 00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:54,380 But say it's like kickball, but it's like they have like different rules for it. 533 00:27:54,380 --> 00:27:55,060 Interesting. 534 00:27:55,060 --> 00:27:55,460 Yeah. 535 00:27:55,900 --> 00:28:01,020 And so I think, you know, at that age, the, the idea of like inventing, 536 00:28:01,020 --> 00:28:05,740 like inventing games or invent, like having, I like it when, 537 00:28:05,740 --> 00:28:08,860 when they'll invent or come up with a game or something that they're doing, 538 00:28:08,860 --> 00:28:12,100 that they have to, like they have to like bring me into and explain to me and like 539 00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:13,260 help me, help me. 540 00:28:13,260 --> 00:28:17,780 It helps their creativity to come out and when they're creating something like that. 541 00:28:17,780 --> 00:28:21,740 Yeah. Better than there's, yeah, just better than a lot of other, 542 00:28:21,740 --> 00:28:25,060 a lot of other options I'd say when they're, yeah, like you said. 543 00:28:25,060 --> 00:28:26,060 Yeah. 544 00:28:26,060 --> 00:28:27,060 Yep. 545 00:28:27,060 --> 00:28:28,060 And play. 546 00:28:28,060 --> 00:28:29,060 Oh, that's right. 547 00:28:29,060 --> 00:28:30,780 We got a tree and we did get a trampoline this past. 548 00:28:30,780 --> 00:28:34,300 I personally stay away from the trampoline. 549 00:28:34,300 --> 00:28:35,300 You might break yourself. 550 00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:36,300 I could. 551 00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:37,300 I could. 552 00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:40,620 I feel like I could, I could damage something, but it's, it's fun to, it's fun to watch 553 00:28:40,620 --> 00:28:44,140 them do some things, play their, play trampoline games. 554 00:28:44,140 --> 00:28:46,580 So, so grades nine through 12. 555 00:28:46,580 --> 00:28:47,580 Oh boy. 556 00:28:47,580 --> 00:28:49,700 But you're, you're not there yet. 557 00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:50,700 Are you? 558 00:28:50,700 --> 00:28:51,700 No. 559 00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:52,700 Next year. 560 00:28:52,700 --> 00:28:54,740 We can't speak to this yet. 561 00:28:54,740 --> 00:28:58,220 But for me, this one was kind of tough. 562 00:28:58,220 --> 00:28:59,940 In my notes, I kind of left it blank 563 00:28:59,940 --> 00:29:03,620 'cause I didn't really know, 564 00:29:03,620 --> 00:29:05,740 trying to think what my favorite thing to do now is, 565 00:29:05,740 --> 00:29:10,100 I like to go, I like to go like downtown, 566 00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:11,660 not Milersburg 'cause that's pretty tiny, 567 00:29:11,660 --> 00:29:14,700 but like Goshen would be a pretty close town to us. 568 00:29:14,700 --> 00:29:17,580 And I like to go downtown and walk with them, 569 00:29:17,580 --> 00:29:19,060 go in and out of some of the different stores 570 00:29:19,060 --> 00:29:20,500 and just discover some of the things, 571 00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:22,100 just looking around kind of so, 572 00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:28,500 Essentially, what we were doing with the tools, where we were just looking and discovering 573 00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:34,180 things, but doing that again now, where we're finding things like going into different antique 574 00:29:34,180 --> 00:29:39,220 shops or bookstores or things like that, where we're not necessarily going to buy any of 575 00:29:39,220 --> 00:29:46,180 the product, but we're able to walk and make memories and do that, where we're hanging 576 00:29:46,180 --> 00:29:50,620 out like that and discovering things, maybe going to get a pretzel at JoJo's, whatever, 577 00:29:50,620 --> 00:29:52,060 But we're just kind of hanging out like that. 578 00:29:52,060 --> 00:29:58,140 That's one of my favorite things to do now with my kids of all ages, but especially the 579 00:29:58,140 --> 00:29:59,140 older ones. 580 00:29:59,140 --> 00:30:00,540 You know, something that we forget about. 581 00:30:00,540 --> 00:30:08,380 And I, when you mentioned this, so a lot of towns will have some form of a local museum, 582 00:30:08,380 --> 00:30:14,700 like a local museum, sort of like historical, interesting historical thing. 583 00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:19,300 And I feel like those are kind of like underutilized. 584 00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:27,460 Usually they're very inexpensive to go to if they have a cost at all. 585 00:30:27,460 --> 00:30:32,340 Or even local art installations, local museum sort of thing. 586 00:30:32,340 --> 00:30:36,100 We have a few of those and a few different of our surrounding communities here. 587 00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:40,580 And stuff that you pass by all the time, you don't think about it. 588 00:30:40,580 --> 00:30:45,780 And it's like, I think there would be, there's real interest. 589 00:30:45,780 --> 00:30:48,260 We had, who was it? 590 00:30:48,260 --> 00:30:52,180 It was Josiah, was that at the garage coffee shop, 591 00:30:52,180 --> 00:30:54,540 located in beautiful Walkerisa, Indiana. 592 00:30:54,540 --> 00:30:56,200 That's the garage coffee shop. 593 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,940 Our friends over there, they've got some photos up. 594 00:30:59,940 --> 00:31:03,660 They're old photos of the old town. 595 00:31:03,660 --> 00:31:04,500 - Oh, sure. 596 00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:05,780 - Of the, 'cause the reason it's called 597 00:31:05,780 --> 00:31:07,180 the garage coffee shop is it was, 598 00:31:07,180 --> 00:31:08,500 it was built in the early 1900s, 599 00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:10,540 it was an automotive garage. 600 00:31:10,540 --> 00:31:13,780 And they have old black and white photos 601 00:31:13,780 --> 00:31:15,460 of the building and things like that. 602 00:31:15,460 --> 00:31:20,860 And I like immediately Josiah like gravitated toward like seeing that and figuring out, you 603 00:31:20,860 --> 00:31:24,620 know, like, oh, how was, you know, like, oh, there are buildings that were, that were here 604 00:31:24,620 --> 00:31:25,940 that are no longer here. 605 00:31:25,940 --> 00:31:28,620 And now this, this is stuff like that. 606 00:31:28,620 --> 00:31:36,100 And I think, I think just a sense of helping kids appreciate history and understand that 607 00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:38,540 again, like there are local towns and things like that. 608 00:31:38,540 --> 00:31:41,860 I have a history to them doing that sort of stuff. 609 00:31:41,860 --> 00:31:45,420 I know like we here in Goshen we have first Fridays and those are great opportunities. 610 00:31:45,420 --> 00:31:47,140 Oh yeah, that's been a, that's a good one. 611 00:31:47,140 --> 00:31:48,940 We've not been to those in a while, but those are nice 612 00:31:48,940 --> 00:31:52,220 because you, because you can hang out and hang out 613 00:31:52,220 --> 00:31:53,340 with friends and things like that. 614 00:31:53,340 --> 00:31:55,460 And they do the, the gosh, is it, 615 00:31:55,460 --> 00:31:57,460 I'm gonna forget which month it is, the fire and ice. 616 00:31:57,460 --> 00:31:58,340 I think it's in January. 617 00:31:58,340 --> 00:31:59,780 Maybe it's in January. 618 00:31:59,780 --> 00:32:01,660 They do all the ice, the ice sculptures. 619 00:32:01,660 --> 00:32:02,500 Yeah. 620 00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:04,020 That's a winner winner. 621 00:32:04,020 --> 00:32:06,420 That's a good, that's a good time. 622 00:32:06,420 --> 00:32:07,660 Oh yes. 623 00:32:07,660 --> 00:32:08,500 Yes. 624 00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:10,220 Go to festivals, that's a good time. 625 00:32:10,220 --> 00:32:13,780 Yes. The maple syrup festival. 626 00:32:13,780 --> 00:32:14,620 Mm-hmm. 627 00:32:14,620 --> 00:32:17,340 - Yes, that's in Walker, Russo. 628 00:32:17,340 --> 00:32:18,180 - Oh, that's the other thing. 629 00:32:18,180 --> 00:32:19,900 Oh, the one thing we do, speaking of which, 630 00:32:19,900 --> 00:32:21,300 might just help me remember. 631 00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:25,900 So different communities have this 632 00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:29,460 when people start making maple syrup. 633 00:32:29,460 --> 00:32:34,460 They have different, like you can go to, 634 00:32:34,460 --> 00:32:35,660 oh, what is it? 635 00:32:35,660 --> 00:32:37,700 Like a Bendix Woods out towards South Bend. 636 00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:38,540 - Oh, sure. 637 00:32:38,540 --> 00:32:40,500 - But different festivals around 638 00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:42,940 the maple syrup making process, 639 00:32:42,940 --> 00:32:44,200 That's super fun. 640 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,860 Everybody's like, that sounds a little nerdy. 641 00:32:46,860 --> 00:32:50,220 It is a little nerdy, but it's super cool to see how they, how they do it. 642 00:32:50,220 --> 00:32:57,060 Usually involves Andy, uh, some, uh, some, a couple of very old gentlemen, um, you 643 00:32:57,060 --> 00:33:02,300 know, in a, in an old shack somewhere, uh, explain, explain to young kids who aren't 644 00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:05,660 sure if they really understand what's going on, how the, how the whole process is 645 00:33:05,660 --> 00:33:08,860 done, but we've done that every, we've done that several times a year, uh, several 646 00:33:08,860 --> 00:33:10,260 times over the few, over the years. 647 00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:16,900 Yeah. So I would say, I think, yeah, a lot of mine in across the, across the ages, a 648 00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:25,260 lot of it has to do with, um, I think things that kind of cause us to slow down a little 649 00:33:25,260 --> 00:33:26,260 bit. 650 00:33:26,260 --> 00:33:27,260 Yes. 651 00:33:27,260 --> 00:33:32,740 Uh, they are on the technology side less technology. 652 00:33:32,740 --> 00:33:33,740 Yeah. 653 00:33:33,740 --> 00:33:39,460 They're not, not nearly as, um, dependent upon technology. 654 00:33:39,460 --> 00:33:43,060 And they're more, yeah, like walking pace sort of things. 655 00:33:43,060 --> 00:33:50,300 They are more like tactile and things like that, which I think is probably, yeah, I mean, 656 00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:54,260 that's helpful at multiple levels to do. 657 00:33:54,260 --> 00:33:58,460 And so even now I'm thinking, you know, as we're having these discussions at the age 658 00:33:58,460 --> 00:34:05,860 range and what we can do, I would say that I probably, like I personally, and I can thank 659 00:34:05,860 --> 00:34:12,860 Jonathan for this one gave this recommendation, probably think more intentionally about those 660 00:34:12,860 --> 00:34:17,500 kinds of activities and meeting, you know, kind of meeting my kids were, you know, where 661 00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:25,100 they are at the same time trying to introduce, yeah, introduce some new and creative, creative 662 00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:26,660 things that they can do. 663 00:34:26,660 --> 00:34:33,300 And you know, if, if you've got younger kids, man, it's super great if you can kind of start 664 00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:37,580 that start that off and kind of begin those traditions and it kind of is a normal as a 665 00:34:37,580 --> 00:34:38,580 normal. 666 00:34:38,580 --> 00:34:41,780 Yeah, that's kind of the fun thing too is if you start creating traditions and things 667 00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:46,060 like that, then you can do them throughout the years, no matter how old your kids are, 668 00:34:46,060 --> 00:34:49,740 as they get older, they're still fun for them to do because they look, they can look back 669 00:34:49,740 --> 00:34:50,740 on those memories. 670 00:34:50,740 --> 00:34:51,740 Yeah. 671 00:34:51,740 --> 00:34:54,020 Like I could probably still go look at tools now with my kids. 672 00:34:54,020 --> 00:34:55,020 Yeah, probably. 673 00:34:55,020 --> 00:34:59,340 And they would like it because they're older now and they have more of an interest in that 674 00:34:59,340 --> 00:35:06,300 for themselves, but that also is that nostalgic memories that they have of us doing it when 675 00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:07,300 they were little. 676 00:35:07,300 --> 00:35:08,300 Yeah, absolutely. 677 00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:12,700 You know, there's, and I think we just, as sometimes as parents, we kind of, it's easy 678 00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:16,340 to discount the impact of those memories. 679 00:35:16,340 --> 00:35:20,180 And sometimes kids don't always know how to like express what that means to them at the 680 00:35:20,180 --> 00:35:26,460 time, but you know, a few years later, when they get a little older and start kind of 681 00:35:26,460 --> 00:35:28,340 reflecting on those things. 682 00:35:28,340 --> 00:35:29,660 I know I was that way with my parents. 683 00:35:29,660 --> 00:35:32,700 Like they would do things with us all the time. 684 00:35:32,700 --> 00:35:33,980 We had a, what was it? 685 00:35:33,980 --> 00:35:37,460 We had a like a nature, like a nature preserve, 686 00:35:37,460 --> 00:35:38,580 not too far from our house. 687 00:35:38,580 --> 00:35:40,660 Like this, it was this nature. 688 00:35:40,660 --> 00:35:42,180 Anyway, this nature thing. 689 00:35:42,180 --> 00:35:44,020 And I just remember like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 690 00:35:44,020 --> 00:35:46,060 And now it's like those are like- 691 00:35:46,060 --> 00:35:46,900 - Those are some good memories. 692 00:35:46,900 --> 00:35:47,740 - They're good memories. 693 00:35:47,740 --> 00:35:49,460 They're fun memories. 694 00:35:49,460 --> 00:35:53,620 So it all depends on your perspective. 695 00:35:53,620 --> 00:35:57,100 But yeah, it's, we would just encourage each of you 696 00:35:57,100 --> 00:35:58,020 to kind of think about, 697 00:35:58,020 --> 00:36:01,300 And I'm going to, I'm going to try to do better on that on my end. 698 00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:05,580 Um, we would just encourage each of you to think about kind of where your kids 699 00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:11,580 are, um, and what are some interesting age based, uh, activities that you could do. 700 00:36:11,580 --> 00:36:14,580 Uh, and it's all the better. 701 00:36:14,580 --> 00:36:17,220 I mean, if you can find the things and we would love some recommendations too, 702 00:36:17,220 --> 00:36:20,660 like things that are, especially that are cost effective, that's always, 703 00:36:20,660 --> 00:36:23,660 that's always great feedback at dudes and dads podcast.com. 704 00:36:23,660 --> 00:36:24,660 So great. 705 00:36:24,660 --> 00:36:25,140 Yeah. 706 00:36:25,140 --> 00:36:26,020 It would be a great place for that. 707 00:36:26,460 --> 00:36:30,720 Jonathan, we want to thank you for putting this in because this is a great episode, 708 00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:35,060 a great time for us to think about the things that we like to do with our kids 709 00:36:35,060 --> 00:36:39,180 based on their ages. 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