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Hey, everybody. What's up?
It's Becky, and we're here with the

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Fielder podcast. I'm joined
zur. And we have a very special guest

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today, our friend and the. I
guess I don't know how to say your

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title, but like Eric Sostre's
wife, we'll start with that. Who

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visited us on the last. On the
last season for three episodes. And

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we have his wife here, who was
formerly the college pastor, I think.

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And we're also joined by the college.

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I mean, I think that is right. Yep.

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By the time there's time that
transition would fully happen. But

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anyways, we're all homies
here, and we have something very

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special to talk about. We're
here to talk about evangelism. And

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do you have to share your
faith? Is it required? Is it mandatory?

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Is it a sin? What is this?
Obedience and that. And so we're

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here to talk about all the
things. So how do you all feel about

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this topic?

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I'm ready.

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Me too. I'm excited.

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Okay. So I guess the first
question I have. And I was. I was,

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do you know. You know, me and
my Google Deep Dives? And I was doing

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some Google deep Dives, and
one of the questions that I kept

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seeing a lot of was like, is
my personal relationship with God

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not enough? Like, if my. If
I'm already been saved and I have

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my faith in God and I love
Jesus, why do I have to evangelize?

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Like, is that not sufficient?
So do you. I guess the question that

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I want to start with is, do
you have to share your faith?

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I think we just toss it to our guests.

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That's so kind. I wish I could
sit with someone who is wondering

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that, because I want to know a
deeper heart of. I just want to ask

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questions to them of, how did
you become a believer? Did that person

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have to share their faith with you?

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Yeah.

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So I think it's even just
wondering if this is the greatest

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thing that's ever happened to
you. But that's me assuming. Right.

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That they think that.

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Right.

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They could think, no, I got
married. That was the best day of

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my life. But if we can agree
that salvation is a free gift that

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we don't deserve, is a miracle
that we who were enemies of God have

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been reconciled. I think it is
also a gift that we would be invited

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into the mission of God to
tell other people. So a quote that

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I've heard before by A man
named D.T. niles said, Evangelism

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is one beggar telling another
beggar where to find bread.

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Yeah.

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And So I think it's kind of, I
would ask that personal question

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back of, of why not? Yeah, I
don't know. That's my first thought.

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Yeah, that's good.

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I mean my first thought just
goes to Matthew 28, 19:20. Jesus

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says, all authority on heaven
and on earth has been given to me

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and therefore go and make
disciples of all nations, baptizing

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them in the name of the
Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

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What did I say? Baptize? Yeah.
Teaching them to obey all that I've

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commanded and surely like I'm
like combining different versions.

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But lo and behold, I'm with
you to the very end of the age. It

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is a command from Jesus for us
to share our faith.

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Yeah, yeah, I, I think I agree
with both of you and I think a follow

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up question that I want to
ask, but I'm gonna wait to talk about

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that first. At first I want to
talk about what are some reasons

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why people that you guys have
heard or seen like that people have

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a hard time with sharing their
faith. I think, I think of two reasons.

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For me that I've wrestled with
and even just like had friends that

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I've also wrestled with. Is
like I an introvert. Like I'm like,

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I'm not a bubbly, super
extroverted person. Like it's hard

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for me to like engage in those
kinds of conversations. It takes

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a lot for me to open up to
people. I have trust issues or like

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whatever. Like the issue may
be like if I'm an introvert, like

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I have a hard time with it. So
like how does that work? And then

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the second thing I feel I hear
a lot of is, shoot, what was it?

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Hold on. I lost my train of
thought. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Is introvert.

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Oh. And it's not my spiritual gift.

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Okay.

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So like I, I, I have like the
spiritual gift of teaching in front

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of a person, not necessarily
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someone or I have a spiritual
gift of, of administration. And I,

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I can't like, you know, so
like there's, I think that, yeah,

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so there's certain things like
that, those two that I have heard

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and I'd love to hear yalls thoughts.

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First of all though,
clarifying question. Are you saying

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that you, these are your
things personally? Yeah, like introvertedness.

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And, and I feel like for sure
as, as I think honestly when I first

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gave my life to Jesus five
years ago. Was that five years ago?

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Yeah. No. Oh my gosh, it was
six now years ago when I first gave

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my life to Jesus. Six years
ago, I think I, I did not, I did

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not even think of those
things. I feel like those insecurities

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and fears came in after I had
been a believer for a while. Cuz

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I feel like when I first gave
my life to Jesus I was like, period.

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Like yes, like let' was. It
was just a lot more reckless and

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like low key, shameless. And
so I think again those insecurities

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came in. I am an introvert and
so I do, yeah, I do. And I do have

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trust issues. The Lord is
continuing to sanctify me in that.

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And so like yes, I think those
are things that I struggle with but

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I also have heard of those
things specifically in like college

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age young adults that they're
like, I am introverted, like I don't

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know how to, how to do it. And
it's not like they're like I can't,

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don't even talk to me about
evangelism because I can't do it.

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It's just like it's hard. Like
how do I do it? So yes, both and

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yeah, so I.

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Guess maybe I'll just throw
the question back at you. But how,

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how have you dealt with that?

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So I guess the. Yeah, so what
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piece is I'm going to take it
back to a personal experience. It

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was whenever I first started
doing student ministry when I was

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at the Grand Prairie campus
and I was like the girls ministry

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person and whenever I was
working with them I just had a harder

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time connecting with some of
the girls and some of their previous

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leaders because I am more
introverted, kind of composed in

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a lot of ways. And I remember
the college pastor at the time, he

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was like, I'm not asking you
to be like their previous leaders,

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I'm asking you to be like you
as a leader to them. And I remember

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like talking to the Lord about
that and wrestling through what he

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had said. And the Lord was
like, I'm not, He was like, I've

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equipped you for.

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Yes.

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And like your introvertedness
doesn't disqualify you from sharing

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your faith, it just makes it
different and I equip you differently

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because of it. And so in the
same way, like extroverts that would

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have, like they might have
their own insecurities when sharing

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their faith. You know, like
there might be other things that

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they're worried about that an
introvert isn't. But being an introvert

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doesn't disqualify you for
being an evangelist or evangelizing.

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It just you have to rely on
the Lord more in certain areas, and

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you have to ask him for more
grace to be able to do it. But that's

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with anything.

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Yeah.

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And so that's my response to
that, to introvertedness. And I think

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a side note to that is also,
like, I think I have to be twice

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as intentional to pursue
opportunities to evangelize because

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I'm like. Because especially
the community that I'm in and, like,

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the communities and friends
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it's hard to have
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I've maintained friendships
with people that don't agree the

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same thing that I do. I've
maintained, you know, those relationships

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and let them kind of see the
ins and out of a believer because

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they don't necessarily have
those circles. And so, like. But

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I have to be super intention
pursuing that. And because you kind

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of can get caught up in your
holy bubble sometimes. And as far

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as the spiritual gifting, I.
I'm gonna hold off on my answer to

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that because I kind of want to
hear yalls thoughts because I had.

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I was talking to my husband
Carlos about it too, and he. He like,

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pointed out something really
specific to me. But I want to hear

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y' all thoughts.

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Yeah. So. So real quickly,
you're. You're talking. So I'm. I

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don't know. I'm like an
introverted extrovert. Like, I'm

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kind of both in aunt.

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You know, I can see that in you.

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But I think just to kind of
give it a broader perspective, because

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I love that you shared your
specific, you know, you being an

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introvert. But I think just
oftentimes we could use personality

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traits or just like, how we
view ourselves as reasons against

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not being obedient or not
following through with the command.

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Correct.

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Right. Because I could say, yes.

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I don't know.

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I'm a father or I'm a. I mean,
that's not really personality, but

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like, you know, like, excuses.

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Yes. You know what I'm saying?
That's what it is.

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My answer really would just be
saying, God has made you an introvert,

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maybe. So that way you could
reach introverts.

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God makes people extroverts,
so that way they can easily relate

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with extroverts. Right.

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I guess over.

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I'm.

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I'm like, doing my victory
dance up here. Because I'm like,

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yes. But it's right, though, right?

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Yes.

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I think I am far equipped to
reach other husbands, other fathers,

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and, like, also guys who've
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college students.

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Yes. Yes.

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I'm in a prime spot to reach
them because I've been there and

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I can relate to them. Yes. I
shouldn't use it as an excuse like,

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oh, I'm too old or I'm too,
you know, I'm not.

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I don't speak the.

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The lingo me every day. Yes.
No, that's fair.

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I don't know. What are your thoughts?

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I couldn't say it better
because I am an extrovert. I am crazy,

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feral, whatever, high energy.
And I've watched how I scare off

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introverts. They don't want to
talk to me. Bye. And I remember one

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of my really best friends in
college was like an intern at the

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bsm, and I watched her at
hangouts, parties. She was introverted,

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but that didn't excuse her to
step into ministry. She, again, that

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was the greatest gift she's
gotten. She wants to share it with

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other college students. I
watched her at parties see people

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I would have never seen
because I'm on the dance floor or

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I'm, like, talking to another
extroverted person because I relate

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to them. I watched her go sit
by the girl that's playing with the

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dog of the house who wants to
be by herself and reach her. And

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so that's how it was modeled
to me, that your personality or life

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stage does not excuse you,
like you said before, from being

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obedient. Yes. So that's what
I would say to that specific.

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That's good.

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That's good. And the second
concern, spiritual gifts. What if

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it's not my spiritual gift?
Like, what if evangelism isn't my

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spiritual gift?

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Administration is not my
spiritual gift. It's not. But, you

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know, Becky sent me some
questions, and I got on my laptop

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and I did it to, you know,
like, I. It's a muscle. I really

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believe. I had a friend, I
told them I was coming on this podcast,

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and they asked me, like, do
you believe you have the spiritual

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gift of evangelism, or do you
believe it was a muscle that you

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worked? And I think it is a
muscle. I think of our South Oaks

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campus pastor, Matt Hunter.
Yeah, I'll let him speak for himself.

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But what I've observed, I
believe he has a spiritual 100.

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Yes.

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There is not a day where I
don't hear him talking about or asking

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for prayer for a gospel
appointment. He is seeking them out.

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He is intentional. And I
believe it's a muscle that I've grown

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personally.

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But I want to speak a little
bit on that because I know his dad,

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Philip Hunter. And part of it,
too, is discipleship. His dad is

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an evangelist, and he modeled
it, and that's why Matt is the way

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he is. And it's just like, to
me, that's incredible because it

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just speaks to both things.
Like, we evangelize not just because

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it's a command, but because
also, like you mentioned earlier,

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that's how we receive the good
news, is through people who evangelize

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to us. But then at the same
time, people disciple us so that

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we can disciple other people. It's.

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Oh, it's full circle.

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I wonder. Yeah, I want to. I
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I'm talking to you personally about.

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No, but. Yeah.

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So this is real. Yeah.

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But I always wonder, like, am
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Because I became a believer at
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didn't share the gospel with
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event where they share the
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again pursued me, let me know
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for my life. Would ask me hard
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out for you? And I'd be like, horrible.

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Thank you for asking.

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Yes. And they would tell me.

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What would give me hope and
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Because I think sometimes I
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is sharing the good news, and
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yes, nobody wants to go to
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But I always think about, yes,
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here, but I need to escape my
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like, y' all have seen me and
Eric walk through hard things, have

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been community to us. And I
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these things in life?

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In the brokenness of the world
without the hope of Christ. I have

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no idea.

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I'm just glad.

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No, I.

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That's really good.

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Where did you become a
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Right, right. I think kind of
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gifts. I was talking about
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I have, you know, in maybe,
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necessarily in my recent years
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church camp, I remember them
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and they were like, the
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the pastors and, like, all
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talking about a spiritual
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perceiving it differently, But
I was looking up the verse for where

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it actually, like, talks about
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4, and it starts in, like,
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chapter. It's fire. But the.
In verse 11, he says, and he gave

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the apostles, the prophets,
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teachers to equip the saints
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up the body of Christ until we
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and the knowledge of the Son
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in Romans 12, I think is where
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at least, show that this is
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gifts are. And it's in chapter
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about the gifts of grace. And
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many members, and the members
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of one another, having gifts
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given to us, let us then use
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proportion to our faith, if
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who teaches in his teaching,
the one who exhorts in his exhortation,

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the one who contributes in
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zeal, and the one who does
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It doesn't necessarily mention
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talking. I was like, wrestling
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there's other verses that talk
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really wrestling on these two.
And Carlos was like, evangelism doesn't

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necessarily have to be a gift,
but it's a person. Evangelists. An

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evangelist is a person that's
been given to the church for his

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kingdom work. So how do we
become the people for that? For the

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kingdom of the church, you
know what I'm saying? Or for the

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kingdom of God. Like, how do
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to become an evangelist.

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Quote, unquote, to. To
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because it's not something
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equipped me with doesn't mean
it's not an act of obedience and

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a sacrifice unto the Lord
every time I do it. You know what

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I mean? And so that. That
would be my challenge to people who

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are, like, trying. Not trying
to justify themselves, but like,

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that. That is a roadblock that
you find yourself in of, like, this

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is not my gifting. This does
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a lot of people with the
greatest gifts. Like, you know, I

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don't know why I'm Going
sports. I'm not a sports person at

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all. But like, like, like Kobe
Bryant, you know, like, he. His gifting

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was obviously in his sport,
but he never let up on his practice

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for the sake of, like, him
being able to rely back on, like,

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oh, yeah, this is my gifting.
I'm super good at this. That doesn't

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mean you let up on the small
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whenever you're a fire at
everything. You know what I'm saying?

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Or just because you're not
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Exactly. 100%. 100%.

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I thought about it this way.
It's like, because you said it.

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I don't know why I went that way.

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But no, because you were
saying, like, hey, just because I'm

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not an evangelist, like, it's
not my gifting, doesn't mean I don't

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evangelize. Like, I think of,
like, just because I'm not a cook,

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a professional cook, don't
mean I don't. Yeah, I don't feed

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my wife. I don't feed my kids.
I don't feed the pe. The people who

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need food. So it's like, it's
not an excuse. You know what I'm

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saying? Yeah, no, that's good.

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That's good.

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I would also challenge, I
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the good news of Jesus going
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my Lord.

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And savior, Jesus Christ?

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You are evangelizing all the
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You know what?

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I evangelized.

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I have the best massage
therapist out there. Oh, cheap.

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They have an appointment on
Sunday. My bag is pressed.

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Everyone link in the
description. Go see my girl. Let

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me know. I'm serious. I talk
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Yes.

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All the time. You know what?
Zur loves in and out. I know, because

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he evangelizes us.

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Where are we going today? In
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That's right.

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So why would we not ask people
who are obsessed with Jesus talk

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about Jesus? That's not. But
culture, and I would argue the enemy

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wants to make it weird.

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100%.

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100 wants you to feel like
it's awkward when it's like, why

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can't I, in natural
conversation, talk about, like, church

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was fire Yesterday, last night
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Filled us.

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By worshiping God.

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Why can't I tell my neighbor that?

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I agree. I agree. And I think.
I think it is like, you know, I think

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of that. That verse, it talks
about, like, if you live for The.

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For the approval of man. Yeah.
What is the verse? Oh, my gosh, I

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can't think of it right now,
but I'll have to Google it. But just

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like the idea of living for
the percept for the good perception

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of man, like you will. That is
the reward, you know, like the reward

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of living for the approval of
others, like, that is the most you're

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going to get out of this. But
if we're, you know, I think of the

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Sermon on the Mount, you know,
like, if you're being persecuted

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for the, For Christ's
namesake, like, there is more reward

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to that than just the
rejection. You know what I'm saying?

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And so I think, I think it
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perceived as that weird,
psycho Christian person or like being

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rejected or losing friendships
or whatever. But I think of Paul

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and just talking or not Paul,
but just, yeah, it was Paul. Whenever

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he's like, everything that I
had, I counted all as loss for the

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glory of the gospel and for
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I think ultimately, and I
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to say, coming back to my, my,
the thing that I said I was going

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to say that I wanted to wait
for us to discuss. Now we're coming

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back. Like, no, I had, I
wanted to wait until after we'd kind

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of gotten a little bit of
discussion. But I guess my question

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to people who are wrestling
through this and a question that

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the Lord had convicted me with
in this season of, like, being insecure

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about it is like, who is the
gospel for? Like, who. Who is it

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for? Who is the beneficiary of
the gospel? And of course, we are

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all beneficiaries of the
gospel. Like, we received the grace

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of God. Salvation. It is a
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It is for the surgeoners to
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But I also would challenge you
guys to realize that us coming to

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faith in Christ is also for
Christ. That is people coming to

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faith isn't. So we can boast
on these people receive the seed

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that we planted. But it is
this person gave their life to Jesus.

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Praise God. Like, glory goes
to God. And so the gospel is for

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the lost to come to salvation.
But I also it like, they come to

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salvation for the glory of
God, you know, and so I'm like, what

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is the gospel for? Like. And
if your gospel is like, so that way

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I can live a peaceful life,
and so that way I can be chilling

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myself. Exactly. And so that I
can approach the throne of grace

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with confidence, knowing that
I won't be rejected. And if that's

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the end of the story, then I
think that's a shortened view of

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the gospel.

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I love that because. So I
believe missions and evangelism go

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hand in hand. There's a book
by Pastor John Piper. He talks. It's

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let the nations. Let the
nations be glad. And he talks about

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how missions exist because
worship doesn't. Right. So because

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that place, that person isn't
worshiping God, therefore it is my

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mission to evangelize to them,
to share the gospel with them. That

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worship to God can happen.
Does that make sense? Like, I'm.

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I'm just tracking with what
you're saying. I just lost my train

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of thought.

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That literally happens to me
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Say, please.

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It tracks.

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Yes, it does.

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I swear it tracks. But, you
know, well, maybe.

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Maybe it'll come back. Maybe
it'll come back. But, yeah, I mean,

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I think ultimately you just
have to question, like, who is the

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gospel for? And I was talking
about Ephesians earlier, and I was

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thinking more. I was wrestling
more about it. Oh, not Ephesians.

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Jude. And Jude is like one
chapter. Like, it's one. It's a book

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in the Bible, but it's one
chapter long, which is like, the

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funniest thing to me. But
Jackie Hill Perry, oh, my gosh, this

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is the first time I mentioned
her all season. Shout out. But she

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wrote a book or, like, a
guideline for Jude called Contending

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for the Faith. And there was a
specific two verses that really stuck

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out to me where it's in Jude
one at the end of the chapter, and

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it says to him who is able to
keep you from stumbling and to present

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you before his glorious
presence without fault and with great

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joy. Joy to the only God, our
Savior, be glory, majesty, power

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and authority through Jesus
Christ our Lord, before all ages

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now and forevermore. Amen. And
I just feel like, to me, that, like,

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summarized the thought of,
like, the gospel, like, who is the

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gospel for? It is for the lost
to come to faith for the glory of

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Jesus Christ.

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And that's really where my tie
in was. Right. It's because that.

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That is why we evangelize, why
we go on mission is so that way.

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It is for the glory of God. It
is for his. His worship, like, for

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us to magnify and glorify Him.

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Yeah, I just love what you
just said specifically about just

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reading Jude.

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Because I don't know, for me,
like, when I think. I think that

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is maybe that what I see in
Culture. What I observe in culture

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is that even sometimes the way
we win people, I think can be dangerous.

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Because who are we winning
people to? Are we winning them to.

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Just to be free of their sin?
Are we winning them for the glory

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of God, like, to. To
glorifying God, like, you know what

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I'm saying? Like. Okay, I'm.
All right. Never mind. Hold on. This

443
00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:27,950
is a little bit of tea. Just a
little bit. Okay. So. But here. Here's

444
00:22:27,950 --> 00:22:32,630
why I. I'm not going to name
any names, but I heard a pastor talk

445
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:40,430
about how their church had
given minivans to single mothers,

446
00:22:41,470 --> 00:22:45,870
and there was a single mother
who took it, and they didn't come

447
00:22:45,870 --> 00:22:49,830
back to the church. But, like,
over and over and over again, I just

448
00:22:49,830 --> 00:22:54,350
heard him say, and we gave her
a minivan, and she never came back.

449
00:22:55,150 --> 00:23:00,270
And it just. I don't know. In
my heart, it was like a big red flag.

450
00:23:00,270 --> 00:23:04,110
It's like, what, are you
trying to win them over to your church

451
00:23:04,110 --> 00:23:07,680
with a. Because you gave them
a minivan?

452
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,160
Yeah.

453
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,840
Or are you winning them with
the gospel that they would be saved

454
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:12,280
to Christ?

455
00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:12,840
Yeah.

456
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,720
Maybe the reason, like, she
got what she came for. She got the

457
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:16,280
minivan.

458
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:16,680
Yeah.

459
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:17,240
Peace.

460
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:17,760
Yeah.

461
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:18,480
You know what I'm saying?

462
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:18,840
Yeah.

463
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,400
She didn't get what she really needed.

464
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,520
Yes, exactly.

465
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:23,640
That's good.

466
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,160
Yeah.

467
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,760
Yeah. I. Yeah. Do you guys
have any, like, questions you guys

468
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,840
have heard in Yalls ministry
walks of, like, of evangelism? Why

469
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:33,960
I have a hard time with it.

470
00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:39,180
This. This sentence that
people say to me grinds my gears.

471
00:23:39,180 --> 00:23:43,060
And I want to give grace. Yes,
absolutely. But I hear it so often.

472
00:23:43,460 --> 00:23:45,540
I always want to bring
clarity. It's.

473
00:23:45,940 --> 00:23:46,340
Yeah.

474
00:23:46,340 --> 00:23:48,980
Like, I know I should, but,
like, I just don't want to shove

475
00:23:48,980 --> 00:23:53,980
my faith down someone's
throat. Then don't. Like, no one's

476
00:23:53,980 --> 00:23:57,700
asking you to. That is not
synonymous to sharing the gospel.

477
00:23:58,180 --> 00:23:59,420
Ask people questions.

478
00:23:59,420 --> 00:23:59,860
Yeah.

479
00:24:00,170 --> 00:24:01,810
Where do you go to when life sucks?

480
00:24:01,810 --> 00:24:02,250
Yeah.

481
00:24:02,250 --> 00:24:05,690
You know? Yes. Like, yes, 2020
was the easiest year to share the

482
00:24:05,690 --> 00:24:06,010
possible.

483
00:24:06,090 --> 00:24:06,570
Yeah.

484
00:24:07,290 --> 00:24:09,050
There's still brokenness in 2025.

485
00:24:09,050 --> 00:24:09,450
Right.

486
00:24:09,450 --> 00:24:09,850
Right.

487
00:24:09,850 --> 00:24:13,210
And so I really. I. When
someone says that to me, I'm like,

488
00:24:13,610 --> 00:24:17,810
man, can we just go right now?
Because there's a reason, like we

489
00:24:17,810 --> 00:24:20,890
said earlier, Matt Hunter is
making gospel appointments because

490
00:24:20,890 --> 00:24:27,020
his dad showed him, but he has
seen. I believe it's in Luke 12,

491
00:24:28,620 --> 00:24:31,700
where it says, and when they
bring you before the synagogues and

492
00:24:31,700 --> 00:24:34,220
the rulers and the
authorities, do not be anxious about

493
00:24:34,220 --> 00:24:37,900
how you should defend yourself
or what you should say for the Holy

494
00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:41,260
Spirit. Will teach you in that
very hour what you ought to say.

495
00:24:41,420 --> 00:24:44,380
So if you're a believer in
Christ and the spirit is inside you

496
00:24:44,860 --> 00:24:50,060
and you initiate in shaky
knees that conversation, I've seen

497
00:24:50,060 --> 00:24:52,770
people fall in love with
sharing their faith because they

498
00:24:52,770 --> 00:24:57,170
realize, oh, my gosh, that
person didn't reject me, or it went

499
00:24:57,170 --> 00:25:00,250
a certain way, or they gave
their life to Christ. And then you're

500
00:25:00,250 --> 00:25:04,530
humbled of, like me, like,
sinful, broken me. Got to be a part

501
00:25:04,530 --> 00:25:07,930
of this person's story. The
trajectory of their life and eternity

502
00:25:07,930 --> 00:25:11,930
changed man. That dog will
hunt and will never stop sharing

503
00:25:11,930 --> 00:25:13,970
the gospel. So I think my
encouragement when they're like,

504
00:25:13,970 --> 00:25:16,770
I don't wanna. You know, like
I said earlier, the enemy wants you

505
00:25:16,770 --> 00:25:19,990
to think it's uncomfortable.
All these lies. My challenge would

506
00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:23,550
be, go for it. And if you're
like, man, that sunk. They slammed

507
00:25:23,550 --> 00:25:26,350
the door in my face and. Or
that friend hasn't texted me back.

508
00:25:27,310 --> 00:25:27,710
Yeah.

509
00:25:27,710 --> 00:25:30,030
I think what wins people over
is our authenticity.

510
00:25:30,110 --> 00:25:30,830
Yes, I agree.

511
00:25:30,990 --> 00:25:33,190
Hey, I didn't mean to make you
feel uncomfortable. If you don't

512
00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:34,670
want to talk about faith. I
have a friend.

513
00:25:34,670 --> 00:25:35,150
Yeah.

514
00:25:35,470 --> 00:25:38,430
She knows I work in a church.
She knows I'm obsessed with Jesus.

515
00:25:38,910 --> 00:25:42,550
She kind of avoids asking me
questions, and she's told me I don't

516
00:25:42,550 --> 00:25:46,320
want to talk about faith.
Okay. But then when I've walked through

517
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,680
really hard seasons, as you
asked me about it, I say, jesus is

518
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:51,200
my rock.

519
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:51,440
Yeah.

520
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,400
Jesus my cornerstone.

521
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

522
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:53,760
I don't know if that makes.

523
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,720
No, absolutely. I think it's,
like, doing life with people. I think

524
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,480
I. And I kind of goes back to,
like, the holy huddle thing. It's

525
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,440
just, like, kind of easy
sometimes to get stuck in your holy

526
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:03,720
bubble.

527
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,040
Right.

528
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,440
And so I think it's comfy, and
I think it's. It's being intentional

529
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,810
and. And going back to, like,
being supplied with, like, opportunities.

530
00:26:12,810 --> 00:26:16,290
Like, Holy Spirit, give me,
like, give me what I need to say

531
00:26:16,290 --> 00:26:19,050
today. Like, give me the
opportunities. Like, open the doors.

532
00:26:19,130 --> 00:26:22,130
Let me meet a person of peace.
I do it and he'll do it. You know,

533
00:26:22,130 --> 00:26:25,250
like. And so I think it's. I
think it's foolishness to think that

534
00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:29,290
it's on us. Like, I. I have to
freak out about this. I need to stress

535
00:26:29,290 --> 00:26:32,490
out about, like, having all of
these, like, like, appointments.

536
00:26:32,490 --> 00:26:35,810
And I'm like, the Lord is
like, he goes before us and he does

537
00:26:35,810 --> 00:26:38,130
the work. And, like. And
scripture is, like, very open to

538
00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:41,240
talking about it. Like, no one
can come to the Father or no one

539
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,080
can come to the Son, unless
drawn by the Father. And so it's

540
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,080
like you. Even if you did,
like, meet with someone and God is

541
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,160
not working on them, like,
it's not.

542
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:48,680
It's.

543
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,160
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I'm just like, I, I think it's.

544
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,840
We can. The fear of rejection
and the fear of being perceived differently

545
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,600
is like a valid fear, but it
shouldn't stop you. It's not valid

546
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,200
enough to stop you from
realizing that the potential that

547
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,440
you have is only because of
the Holy Spirit in you.

548
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,110
Yeah. Yeah.

549
00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:05,710
Does that make sense?

550
00:27:05,710 --> 00:27:07,910
No. It makes so much sense.
And I just want to piggyback a little

551
00:27:07,910 --> 00:27:10,710
bit of what you both are
saying and maybe again, just as an

552
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:13,230
encouragement to those that
are listening and watching this video,

553
00:27:13,710 --> 00:27:19,950
is that it is not our job to
save them. It is our job to share

554
00:27:20,430 --> 00:27:26,350
our faith. Like, it is up to
God. It is the work of the Holy Spirit.

555
00:27:26,350 --> 00:27:30,070
And we do pray and we seek the
Lord, say, God, would you break down

556
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:32,790
the stronghold of unbelief?
God, would you save them? Would you

557
00:27:32,790 --> 00:27:36,510
draw them to the sun? Like,
we're, we're praying. But ultimately

558
00:27:36,990 --> 00:27:40,470
that's not our job. It is the
spirit of God who convicts them of

559
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:43,990
sin and draws them to faith
and makes Jesus is irresistible to

560
00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:47,150
him. But it is our job to
share our faith.

561
00:27:47,150 --> 00:27:49,630
Yes, I agree. I agree. And
that brings me back to my next question

562
00:27:49,630 --> 00:27:52,430
of is, is it a sin?

563
00:27:52,590 --> 00:27:53,470
Are you sinning?

564
00:27:53,630 --> 00:27:58,000
Is it a sin if I don't share
my faith? Like, is. Because I, I

565
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,520
love what you said about,
like, shoving the gospel down someone's

566
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,960
throat. Because. No, like,
don't do that. Like, please, please

567
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,960
don't do that. Like, don't.
Because I feel like I've even, like,

568
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,000
again, I have. I have a
really, a group of friends. I have

569
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,760
a lot of group of friends that
just don't have the same beliefs

570
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,240
that I do.

571
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:13,560
Sure.

572
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,840
But I'm not. I don't hide it
from them. I'm very open about it.

573
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,440
Same thing. Like, they know my
rock is Jesus Christ. Like, they

574
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,560
know that I love Jesus more
than I love my husband. Like, they,

575
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,110
they know those things, you
know, and so it's like my life of

576
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:33,190
faithfulness, like, to Jesus.
And also, even, even. And especially

577
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:36,870
in the times where I feel down
or where I have fallen short of,

578
00:28:37,030 --> 00:28:39,510
like, the calling that the
Lord has put me on. Like, they understand

579
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:42,630
that I always, like, the
answer is always Jesus. Like, if

580
00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:45,870
in sin, repent and go to
Jesus. If, like, glory, all glory

581
00:28:45,870 --> 00:28:48,390
to King Jesus, you know, like,
they they understand that. And so

582
00:28:48,390 --> 00:28:51,150
I feel like there's something
to be said about, like, you know,

583
00:28:51,150 --> 00:28:54,560
like, but you living a life of
faithfulness, and I'm giving glory

584
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,720
unto King Jesus, like, that is
a way of sharing your faith.

585
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:58,120
Yeah.

586
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:58,720
Does that make sense?

587
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,640
Yeah. I was joking when I said no.

588
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,320
No. Yeah. Yeah.

589
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:06,160
But just to clarify the point,
I think what it comes down to is

590
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:11,080
obedience. Right. Because at
the end of the day, like, I think

591
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,960
a good litmus test is James,
chapter 4, verse 17, which says to

592
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,320
him, who knows what he ought
to do and doesn't do it to him, it

593
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,480
is a sin. Yeah. So, like, for
example, I'm walking into Inclusion

594
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,000
coffee, and I'm praying, holy
Spirit, is there anybody here who

595
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:32,000
you want me to share my faith
with today? And as I'm walking around,

596
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,120
the Lord puts on my heart a
young gentleman who might be alone,

597
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,760
maybe just reading a book. And
in that moment, I say, actually,

598
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,400
that's not who I'm supposed to
share my faith with.

599
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:40,960
He's so busy.

600
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,360
He's so busy, he's reading his
book, and I'm disobedient to the

601
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,490
Spirit, to him who knows what
he ought to do and doesn't do it

602
00:29:47,490 --> 00:29:48,570
to him. It is a sin.

603
00:29:48,570 --> 00:29:49,050
I agree.

604
00:29:49,130 --> 00:29:51,850
And so if I know in that
moment I am to evangelize, I am to

605
00:29:51,850 --> 00:29:53,210
share my faith, and I don't do it.

606
00:29:53,450 --> 00:29:54,890
It is a sin. Yes, I agree.

607
00:29:55,050 --> 00:29:59,050
And walk in the freedom of.
There's grace for that, too. I remember

608
00:29:59,130 --> 00:30:03,650
reading Radical by Francis
Chan at a discount tire and being

609
00:30:03,650 --> 00:30:05,770
like, this is such a good
book. Like, I want to be radical,

610
00:30:05,770 --> 00:30:09,330
and blah, blah, blah. Yeah,
provide someone. And y' all. This

611
00:30:09,330 --> 00:30:13,510
girl sits. The Lord is like,
this girl sits next to me, chatty,

612
00:30:13,910 --> 00:30:18,350
like, same age, like, probably
begging for me to share the gospel.

613
00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:22,150
Like, the Lord was like, here
you go. I said, I'm reading my book

614
00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:24,550
about being radical.

615
00:30:24,550 --> 00:30:29,270
I'm trying to read about
evangelism. That is so. That's real.

616
00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:34,310
And the Lord was like, so did
you not, like, want to? And I walked

617
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:38,680
away, and the Lord encouraged
me so quickly and was like, I can

618
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,000
send another laborer. Pray
that the next person is obedient

619
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,080
for this girl.

620
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:43,600
For sure.

621
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,920
I think about that all the
time. Yeah.

622
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,760
No, I. Yeah, all the time. And
I feel like we all have stories like

623
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,240
that or like, the Lord
prompted you to do something and,

624
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,600
like, because. And have you
ever been in a situation where evangelism

625
00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:00,480
or evangelism where the Lord
asks you to share the gospel with

626
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,920
someone and you're like, so
annoyed about it or is that just

627
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,160
me? No, I was on a. I was on
an airplane. I was on a flight one

628
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,830
time and I was so tired. It
had been the longest week. I was

629
00:31:10,060 --> 00:31:13,620
so excited to be home. It was
like a three hour flight and I. I

630
00:31:13,620 --> 00:31:15,980
can't sleep on planes. Fun
fact. And so I was like, I'm already

631
00:31:16,060 --> 00:31:20,100
exhausted. And I sat down and
there was nobody next to me or on

632
00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:22,140
this side. And I. And so I was
like, okay, bet, like, I'm gonna

633
00:31:22,140 --> 00:31:23,900
take the window seat. And so
then I sat in the window seat and

634
00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:27,500
then this girl came on. She
was like the last person on the flight.

635
00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:27,900
Yeah.

636
00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:33,420
And she sat down next to me
and she was like, so, like, bubbly

637
00:31:33,420 --> 00:31:37,380
and just like, super excited
and like, just very want. She like,

638
00:31:37,380 --> 00:31:42,560
wanted to get to know me. And
I was like, so not a fan of it.

639
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,680
And like, I was like, I'm an introvert.

640
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,120
Like, I was like, I'm tired.
Like, I'm so exhausted. It's been

641
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,520
the longest week. Like, I just
want to get home. And I felt the

642
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,400
Lord convict me. He was like,
you are never going to see this person

643
00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:00,120
again. Like, and you have the
hope that you already know that she

644
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:00,520
doesn't.

645
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:00,840
Right?

646
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:06,810
And it was so convicting. And
like, it humbled me in, like, in

647
00:32:06,810 --> 00:32:09,930
a way that I depended even
more on the Lord because I was like,

648
00:32:09,930 --> 00:32:13,050
dang. Because of my. My bad
attitude. Like, I. I feel like I

649
00:32:13,050 --> 00:32:16,450
already disqualified myself
from sharing the gospel. But in his

650
00:32:16,450 --> 00:32:19,250
grace, like, he's still going
to equip me. And I had the greatest,

651
00:32:19,250 --> 00:32:22,690
like, the best conversation
with her. Like, and it. And I got.

652
00:32:22,690 --> 00:32:25,570
And you know, she had. She
opened up, like, really quickly and

653
00:32:25,570 --> 00:32:27,490
talked about, like, church
hurt that she'd experienced. And

654
00:32:27,490 --> 00:32:29,770
so she, like, grew up in the
church and she had a really bad church

655
00:32:29,770 --> 00:32:34,160
hurt. And I got to share it
with her about, like, about Fielder

656
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,840
and just like, kind of the
things that we do and the posture

657
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,800
that we have and it just like,
you could just tell that she was

658
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,720
just, like, really shocked
about it. And she was like, well,

659
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:47,680
like, I just. I had a friend
that her dad was like, the head pastor

660
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,440
of this church. And, like, and
she just started telling me all these

661
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,200
things that she heard about
lead pastors. And I was like, funny

662
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,960
you should mention it. Like,
I'm actually the executive assistant

663
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,680
of ours and just got to like,
really share with her, like, an honest

664
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,280
perspective. And it was just
really, really sweet. And so it started

665
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,370
with super bad attitude. Like,
just such a freaking sinner. Like,

666
00:33:07,370 --> 00:33:11,090
I was like, I'm busy. Like, I
need to, like, chill and just listen

667
00:33:11,090 --> 00:33:14,530
to my music and try and pass
out on this plane. But the Lord,

668
00:33:14,530 --> 00:33:17,170
in his kindness, like, pretty
much. And. And I just. I think about,

669
00:33:17,170 --> 00:33:19,650
like, the. There's, like, a
phrase that I feel like we say a

670
00:33:19,650 --> 00:33:22,690
lot about the fish are jumping
in the boat. And I feel like that

671
00:33:22,690 --> 00:33:25,970
there is a season where that
is happening. Like, I feel like the

672
00:33:25,970 --> 00:33:29,970
Lord is giving a lot of favor
to us and. And people that don't

673
00:33:29,970 --> 00:33:33,520
know Jesus, that are in a
desperate place that wants reconciliation

674
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,080
to the brokenness that they
see in the world and the hope that

675
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,160
they feel like there has to be
out there. And so, yeah, just, like,

676
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,320
that's good. Yeah, that's just
my. My personal story, like, about

677
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,880
bad attitude and, like, evangelizing.

678
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,120
Yes. I remember when I was a
new believer in college, and, like

679
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,360
you said, we're on fire. I had
this gift. I remember going on my

680
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,920
first mission trip. We're at
the mall, and something that, like,

681
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,320
has helped me ensure in the
gospel or in conversations is just

682
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,100
finding something in common
with someone. Right. And so me and

683
00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:03,260
my friend run into this girl.
She's wearing, like, a Doctor who

684
00:34:03,260 --> 00:34:05,660
shirt. My friend watches
Doctor who. We're yapping. We're

685
00:34:05,660 --> 00:34:06,020
yapping.

686
00:34:06,020 --> 00:34:06,300
Yeah.

687
00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:09,020
We get to spiritual
conversation. Homegirl shuts down.

688
00:34:09,260 --> 00:34:12,620
She leaves us in the, like, I
don't know, whatever, buckle. We

689
00:34:12,620 --> 00:34:16,500
were at the mall, and my
friend was like, wow, that was amazing.

690
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:20,860
And I'm like, I was lame.
Like, she dusted us off, and she

691
00:34:20,860 --> 00:34:24,020
was like, we. We got to be a
part of, like, still sharing the

692
00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:24,500
gospel with her.

693
00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:25,020
That's right.

694
00:34:25,180 --> 00:34:28,070
And really talking about the.
The scripture that talks about, some

695
00:34:28,070 --> 00:34:29,830
will throw the seeds, some
will water, some.

696
00:34:29,830 --> 00:34:31,950
Will plant, but the Lord is
going to blow it.

697
00:34:32,110 --> 00:34:33,990
And I remember being
discouraged. And I came back home

698
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:36,430
and I told, like, my Bible
study group that. And one of my friends

699
00:34:37,230 --> 00:34:41,350
had just come back from Beach
Reach. Similar thing, like, sharing

700
00:34:41,350 --> 00:34:44,870
the gospel all the time over.
Over the course of a week. And he

701
00:34:44,870 --> 00:34:49,870
was like, you just never know
where you're at in someone's journey.

702
00:34:49,950 --> 00:34:52,070
And he was like,
statistically, someone might say

703
00:34:52,070 --> 00:34:55,089
that they need to hear the
gospel seven times before they placed

704
00:34:55,089 --> 00:34:57,969
their faith in Jesus. And he
was like, you were probably number

705
00:34:57,969 --> 00:35:00,489
four. You could have been
number one. And he's like, we all

706
00:35:00,489 --> 00:35:03,329
want to be number seven. Like,
we want to dunk our friend and, like,

707
00:35:03,329 --> 00:35:06,809
be there. And he was like, do
not be discouraged. And I remember

708
00:35:06,809 --> 00:35:10,129
thinking, like, oh, I'm making
this about me?

709
00:35:10,209 --> 00:35:10,609
Yeah.

710
00:35:10,609 --> 00:35:13,089
Like, I want the glory. And so
going back to what you said earlier,

711
00:35:13,089 --> 00:35:15,369
the glory goes to God. He's
doing the work.

712
00:35:15,369 --> 00:35:15,809
Yeah.

713
00:35:16,049 --> 00:35:19,889
Even though that girl is on
the radio, I pray that she gave her

714
00:35:19,889 --> 00:35:20,409
life to Christ.

715
00:35:20,409 --> 00:35:20,809
Yeah.

716
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,680
But later in that trip, I'm at
this junkyard talking to this man,

717
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,480
talking about how my life felt
like a junkyard. And, like, the spirit

718
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,360
was just giving me words to
say, and he gave his life to Christ

719
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,520
right then. And I was like,
dude, I don't even know. I could

720
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,800
speak Spanish like this, like,
well, but Lord, I don't know where

721
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,160
he's at today. So, like, the
faithful obedience in those times,

722
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,480
even when our heart posture
isn't in it, God is so nice.

723
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,240
He's so nice. Oh, my gosh. I
can't, like, the amount of times

724
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:48,120
I've been like, oh, you're
right. My be like, literally all

725
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,110
the time. I also kind of as.
As we've been talking about it, I

726
00:35:52,110 --> 00:35:57,990
also want to ask, like, what
is. Like, I don't know, what if you

727
00:35:57,990 --> 00:36:02,070
don't feel a burden for the
loss? Like, what if you legitimately

728
00:36:02,070 --> 00:36:05,070
just, like, you don't have
that burden? You're just like, I

729
00:36:05,070 --> 00:36:07,630
know that there's a need, and
I know that they need Jesus, and

730
00:36:07,630 --> 00:36:10,630
I know that there's so many
people dying, going to hell every

731
00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:14,190
day, but I just, like, I just
have a lot going on in my life or,

732
00:36:14,190 --> 00:36:17,580
like, not even, Like, I'm
just. I'm good. Like, I don't. What

733
00:36:17,580 --> 00:36:19,220
if you don't have a burden for
the lost?

734
00:36:19,780 --> 00:36:24,180
I think you just need to pray,
honestly, like, because I just think

735
00:36:24,180 --> 00:36:31,499
of the. I don't know, like, it
really is, like, would we just begin

736
00:36:31,499 --> 00:36:34,420
to pray? God, would you break
my heart for what breaks yours? Like,

737
00:36:34,580 --> 00:36:38,660
would you? Because I think we
need to ask. We need to say God,

738
00:36:38,660 --> 00:36:42,180
yeah. Right now, I am not
burdened for the lostness around

739
00:36:42,180 --> 00:36:46,770
me. So would you just open up
my eyes to see the brokenness? And

740
00:36:46,770 --> 00:36:49,610
then, honestly, I think what
it needs. What if. If somebody's

741
00:36:49,610 --> 00:36:53,730
at a point where they're
saying, I'm not broken for the lost

742
00:36:53,730 --> 00:36:58,250
around me, I think. I think
genuinely they need to ask, am I

743
00:36:58,250 --> 00:37:01,969
broken over the sin in my own
life? Because the reality is, is

744
00:37:01,969 --> 00:37:05,650
probably there might be
unconfessed sin. There might be just

745
00:37:05,650 --> 00:37:09,810
not realizing that, like, man,
I'm taking lightly the mercy and

746
00:37:09,810 --> 00:37:14,300
grace of God. Like, those are
some serious questions. Because I

747
00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:18,580
think when we realize our
brokenness, it helps us. Well, one,

748
00:37:18,580 --> 00:37:21,500
we receive men like, man, what
A great mercy and grace I receive

749
00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:25,060
from God. But then it opens up
our eyes to say, like, man, I'm not.

750
00:37:25,060 --> 00:37:27,620
It's not just me. There's a
lot of brokenness around me.

751
00:37:27,620 --> 00:37:27,980
Yeah.

752
00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:29,060
I need to share my faith.

753
00:37:29,060 --> 00:37:31,300
No, I agree. What do you.

754
00:37:31,300 --> 00:37:35,660
This verse is in my mind and I
can't find it. There's a verse that

755
00:37:35,660 --> 00:37:40,310
Paul talks about, like, the
prayer could even be to get to that

756
00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:46,230
place where he's like, I
basically, I would be without Christ

757
00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:50,390
for you. If you could come to
Christ, I would give it to you. I'm

758
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:51,270
butchering that verse.

759
00:37:51,350 --> 00:37:51,830
Yeah.

760
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:55,830
Edited in later. Put it up on
the screen, end up the same.

761
00:37:55,830 --> 00:37:56,470
Just kidding.

762
00:37:56,550 --> 00:37:59,510
But there's that verse comes
to mind.

763
00:37:59,590 --> 00:38:00,030
Yeah.

764
00:38:00,030 --> 00:38:04,180
That Paul was so burning for
people that he would rather not even

765
00:38:04,180 --> 00:38:05,660
be with Christ. So. Than they could.

766
00:38:05,740 --> 00:38:06,220
Yes.

767
00:38:06,220 --> 00:38:09,940
Is a place I don't even know
if I can get to at this point. But

768
00:38:09,940 --> 00:38:12,220
when you. I think I would. I
want to just talk to these people

769
00:38:12,460 --> 00:38:16,300
that have these questions
because I would ask them about the

770
00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:18,420
people in their life that they
know. Don't know Christ. And I would

771
00:38:18,420 --> 00:38:21,580
ask them how they're doing.
Because the friend I mentioned earlier

772
00:38:21,580 --> 00:38:27,180
who's like, conjurice. I would
easily. I feel the way Paul feels

773
00:38:27,260 --> 00:38:30,060
because I've done life with
her and I love. My love for her has

774
00:38:30,060 --> 00:38:31,020
continued to grow.

775
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:31,580
Yeah.

776
00:38:32,850 --> 00:38:38,610
Be like. So I think I would
agree with you. Wednesday nights,

777
00:38:38,770 --> 00:38:42,330
James Plug is a great place.
We pray for the loss every week.

778
00:38:42,330 --> 00:38:42,690
Yeah.

779
00:38:42,690 --> 00:38:46,210
And it's been cool because I
might get the element. I might find

780
00:38:46,210 --> 00:38:47,290
a name that I wrote down.

781
00:38:47,290 --> 00:38:47,890
Yeah.

782
00:38:47,890 --> 00:38:50,930
But seeing the different
handwriting, seeing the different

783
00:38:50,930 --> 00:38:53,130
people that. And I don't know
if it's a co worker. I don't know

784
00:38:53,130 --> 00:38:56,010
if it's a family member.
Sometimes people put notes. But my

785
00:38:56,010 --> 00:38:58,970
favorite thing is when I get a
name that, like, I know. Oh, this

786
00:38:58,970 --> 00:38:59,770
is Becky's friend.

787
00:38:59,770 --> 00:39:00,250
Yeah.

788
00:39:00,250 --> 00:39:01,890
Or this is my friend's husband.

789
00:39:01,890 --> 00:39:02,330
Yeah.

790
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,120
That I can participate in
praying for. That has burdened me

791
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:06,760
more for. Yes.

792
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:07,120
That's good.

793
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:07,600
I agree.

794
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,480
Shameless Plug.

795
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,200
No, I agree.

796
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,240
Night prayer gathering.

797
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:14,880
Yeah, I agree. And I think. I
think a lot about. For example, I

798
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,520
feel like we've used this
reference before, but. For example,

799
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,440
my husband. I'm obsessed with
him. I love him. He's the best. I

800
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,280
love him so much. I talk about
him as you should. I talk about him

801
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,360
now. I'm talking about him
right now. Like, you know, and so

802
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,320
I feel like you are.

803
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,280
Hold on. Sorry. Sorry. The
image just came in my mind. We're

804
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,680
at community group and we're
watching John Mark Comer, and I just

805
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,560
look over, you know, they're
playing with seeds and they're playing,

806
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,279
they're holding hands. So when
she says she upsets, I'm like, oh,

807
00:39:46,279 --> 00:39:46,920
she obsessed.

808
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,240
We have video content.

809
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:51,960
We have evidence of that
obsession, guys. Guilty as charged.

810
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,720
But what I'm saying is, like,
I'm going to talk about him because

811
00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:58,530
I love him and because I spend
a lot of time with him. And, and

812
00:39:58,530 --> 00:40:01,330
so I feel like the more time
you spend with Jesus, the more time

813
00:40:01,330 --> 00:40:05,130
you spend in prayer, the more
time you spend. Like, that is ultimately,

814
00:40:05,130 --> 00:40:09,130
like, our goal is like, to be
more like Christ. Like, that is sanctification.

815
00:40:09,130 --> 00:40:13,690
Like, correct. And so you, you
become who you are around. And so

816
00:40:13,690 --> 00:40:17,570
I feel like your prayer life,
if you're like, if your answer is

817
00:40:17,570 --> 00:40:20,850
like, I just don't feel a
burden for the lost, I would challenge

818
00:40:20,850 --> 00:40:23,730
you, examine your prayer life.
Like, what does that look like? Is

819
00:40:23,730 --> 00:40:27,190
it. And I'm not going to say
it's a sin for you to pray against

820
00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:29,750
your personal issues. Like, if
you're having personal issues, like,

821
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:32,950
or if you're having, like,
it's really hard circumstances, you

822
00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:35,630
know, health, like
relationships, whatever it may be,

823
00:40:35,790 --> 00:40:38,990
finances, like, there, there's
so many things that you can be suffering

824
00:40:38,990 --> 00:40:42,590
with that are, that are kind
of keeping you in that place. But

825
00:40:42,590 --> 00:40:46,750
I just think that if your
prayer life a lot of times is focused

826
00:40:46,750 --> 00:40:50,670
on your own personal, like,
time, then I would challenge you

827
00:40:50,670 --> 00:40:53,540
to try and invite other people
into your prayer time. Like, let

828
00:40:53,540 --> 00:40:56,820
me pray for my dad who doesn't
know Jesus, or let me pray for so

829
00:40:56,820 --> 00:40:59,020
and so who I know is going
through a hard time. Or let me pray

830
00:40:59,020 --> 00:41:01,060
for this person that they
would give their life to Christ one

831
00:41:01,060 --> 00:41:05,220
day. Like, invite other names
into your prayer time and just see

832
00:41:05,220 --> 00:41:07,700
what the Lord does with that.
Because I feel like if you're like,

833
00:41:07,700 --> 00:41:12,380
I'm not burdened for the lost,
then maybe you're just surrounded

834
00:41:12,380 --> 00:41:15,580
that you just, you forget that
that is a need, you know, like, because

835
00:41:15,580 --> 00:41:18,180
you're just not surrounded by
it and you're not reminding yourself

836
00:41:18,180 --> 00:41:18,460
of that.

837
00:41:18,460 --> 00:41:19,060
Complacent.

838
00:41:19,060 --> 00:41:19,580
Exactly.

839
00:41:19,660 --> 00:41:20,220
Exactly.

840
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:27,990
So, yeah, that's just another
question. Is being discipled mandatory,

841
00:41:28,070 --> 00:41:31,990
too? I don't know if that's a
word I feel like I've heard. Like.

842
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:34,950
Like, yeah, decide. Like, I'm.

843
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:35,950
I am a disciple.

844
00:41:35,950 --> 00:41:38,750
I am a disciple. Yeah, I'm
being discipled. I'm discipling.

845
00:41:38,750 --> 00:41:42,710
Whatever. Is it necessary?
Like, you know, it's kind of off

846
00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:46,630
Topic, but I'm gonna bring it
in anyways. Is it necessary?

847
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:47,510
I mean, yes.

848
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:49,590
Play blank period.

849
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:55,910
I just want to go back.
Matthew 28:18 to 20. Jesus says,

850
00:41:55,910 --> 00:42:00,670
all authority, heaven and
earth, go and make disciples. And

851
00:42:00,670 --> 00:42:04,870
I think, just to clarify,
right, Like, Jesus is not saying

852
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:12,230
just to make converts of a
religion, right? He's saying, go

853
00:42:12,310 --> 00:42:17,690
and walk with people. Show
them what it means to follow me.

854
00:42:18,250 --> 00:42:21,970
Meaning, not just like, what
did Jesus say? What does it mean

855
00:42:21,970 --> 00:42:25,930
to follow him? Deny yourself,
pick up your cross, and then follow

856
00:42:25,930 --> 00:42:29,169
me. Would you walk with
somebody to the point that they're

857
00:42:29,169 --> 00:42:33,690
recognizing that Jesus is
their only. Like, should be their

858
00:42:33,690 --> 00:42:36,290
only aim in life, that they're
willing to give up everything for

859
00:42:36,290 --> 00:42:39,530
the sake of knowing him?
That's what discipleship is. That's

860
00:42:39,530 --> 00:42:44,100
what making a disciple is like
walking them along that line. I would

861
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:48,340
just say, yes, like, that.
That is what we are called to. It's

862
00:42:48,340 --> 00:42:55,260
not just. I don't know. I
don't want to get flabber. But, you

863
00:42:55,260 --> 00:42:59,180
know, I don't want to just
say, hey, let's just, you know, like,

864
00:43:00,620 --> 00:43:03,140
I'm just trying to share my
faith so that way somebody can sit

865
00:43:03,140 --> 00:43:07,830
in a. In a. In a pew or sit in
a seat at church. Like, no, we're

866
00:43:07,830 --> 00:43:11,430
called to not just get them
saved, but sin. You know, that's

867
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:14,150
what we talk about here. Like,
they're saved to be sent.

868
00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:14,630
Yes.

869
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:17,270
Not just saved from their sin,
but saved for a purpose.

870
00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:19,270
Yeah. No, that's great.

871
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:26,750
I'm currently on the
discipleship team because to me,

872
00:43:26,750 --> 00:43:31,230
it could take a level of
audacity to say, I'm good. I got

873
00:43:31,230 --> 00:43:36,550
this Christian thing figured
out. I don't need help. Because when

874
00:43:36,550 --> 00:43:38,910
I think of discipleship or the
people that are investing in me or

875
00:43:38,910 --> 00:43:43,950
my community group, it is
people that are spurring me on to

876
00:43:43,950 --> 00:43:46,390
love and good works. It's
people who are helping me understand

877
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:49,950
not just what's this question
I have in the Bible, but keeping

878
00:43:49,950 --> 00:43:54,390
me accountable. I have blind
spots. They're called blind spots

879
00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:59,110
for a reason. People to tell
you, hey, you came off kind of sassy

880
00:43:59,110 --> 00:44:02,350
last night. Like, are you
good? And me for. Just say, no, I'm

881
00:44:02,350 --> 00:44:07,990
irritable. I'm. You know, I
think sometimes people can think

882
00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:10,270
that, like, I'm saved, like,
I'm good. This is the finish line.

883
00:44:10,270 --> 00:44:14,110
But it's the starting line.
You can't say, I ran a marathon just

884
00:44:14,110 --> 00:44:18,870
by starting one. You didn't.
And God talks about and gives illustrations

885
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:22,430
of, like, run the race with
endurance. Our life is a race And

886
00:44:22,430 --> 00:44:23,790
I can't run this race.

887
00:44:23,790 --> 00:44:24,190
Yeah.

888
00:44:24,190 --> 00:44:28,110
Without me pulling over to the
side and Becky holding my leg when

889
00:44:28,110 --> 00:44:30,710
I have a Charlie horse, you
know, Like, I can't run the race

890
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:33,910
without people cheering me on
with signs, you know, giving me water.

891
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:36,550
And to me, that is what
discipleship and community is, is

892
00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:38,670
people to help me run the race.

893
00:44:38,670 --> 00:44:39,230
Yeah.

894
00:44:40,430 --> 00:44:43,710
That would be my answer of
yeah. Do I have to be discipled?

895
00:44:43,710 --> 00:44:44,750
Yeah. Yeah.

896
00:44:45,150 --> 00:44:46,910
I think it's a heart posture
thing of.

897
00:44:47,710 --> 00:44:48,990
Are you humble enough to be.

898
00:44:49,070 --> 00:44:51,790
Are you okay? Yeah. Like, I
don't want to evangelize. I don't

899
00:44:51,790 --> 00:44:54,320
want to be discipled. Do you
want to follow Christ? I don't know.

900
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,160
Yeah. Yeah.

901
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,520
Like. Like, it's not supposed
to be easy. Yeah.

902
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,840
Counting the cost. Like, if.
If. If the Lord were to tell you,

903
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,800
like, I don't know. It's just.
I. I just. I. And I think, like,

904
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,080
if we were to ask ourselves
that question, like, let's say, hypothetically,

905
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,040
like, I'm at freaking Kroger
or something, and. And there's, like,

906
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,240
a cashier there, and the Lord
puts it on my heart. Like, I want

907
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:16,800
you to share the gospel. Like,
share the gospel. I will give you

908
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,720
the words to say. And I argue
with him. Like, I. Sometimes I feel

909
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:26,720
like it's easier for us to say
no to the Holy Spirit, but it's like,

910
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:30,000
the Holy Spirit is God. Like,
if God and all of his majesty was

911
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,240
right there in front of you,
it's okay. If God, all of his majesty

912
00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:37,560
was right there in front of
you, like, you know, would you also

913
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,080
say no? You know what I'm
saying? Like, I think it's just a

914
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,440
posture of, like, whenever I
find myself quenching the spirit,

915
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,420
I need to remind myself, like,
this is the Holy Spirit. This is

916
00:45:47,420 --> 00:45:50,660
God in all his glory and his
majesty, Jesus Christ, the founder

917
00:45:50,660 --> 00:45:52,700
and perfecter of my faith.
This is the person that I'm saying

918
00:45:52,700 --> 00:45:58,540
no to. What am I valuing more
than this, than my obedience? Does

919
00:45:58,540 --> 00:45:58,860
that make sense?

920
00:45:58,860 --> 00:45:59,660
No. That makes sense.

921
00:45:59,660 --> 00:46:01,060
So anyways, that's good.

922
00:46:01,380 --> 00:46:03,940
Yeah. I think scripture that
comes to mind, too, is his commandments

923
00:46:03,940 --> 00:46:07,780
are not burdensome. Yes. So
these things he's asking you to do,

924
00:46:08,180 --> 00:46:12,090
even in the front, it might be
a cost or it might be hard. Will

925
00:46:12,090 --> 00:46:15,130
bring you so much joy in
obeying Tiger once you step into

926
00:46:15,130 --> 00:46:18,330
it. It does take that act of
faith. And something Zur and I were

927
00:46:18,330 --> 00:46:21,730
talking about the other day,
too, as we want to minister to young

928
00:46:21,730 --> 00:46:24,490
people. And I never wanted to
be this person of, like, it's your

929
00:46:24,490 --> 00:46:27,250
Generation. Because people say
that to me, and I'm like, what? You

930
00:46:27,250 --> 00:46:31,650
can't blame a whole
generation. But I am observing, due

931
00:46:31,650 --> 00:46:34,650
to technology or different
things, that maybe my younger friends

932
00:46:34,650 --> 00:46:40,040
are growing up that I didn't
have. Yeah. Even initiating a conversation

933
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,360
with a stranger or someone
they don't know as well is terrifying.

934
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,080
So to me, to ask a college
student to be like, let's go evangelize.

935
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:48,680
Let's share the rest.

936
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:53,200
Let's find people that is.
That is a handy. And jump.

937
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,120
Yeah. It's like skydiving for
them. Yeah. Yeah.

938
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,760
The first jump was just
initiating a conversation with a

939
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,280
stranger is what I feel like
I'm teaching students now. And then

940
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,930
it's asking the question,
what's your spiritual background?

941
00:47:04,930 --> 00:47:09,170
Like, you got a faith? Because
like you said earlier, you talk about

942
00:47:09,170 --> 00:47:13,810
Carlos, I talk about Eric. I'm
upset. And so why? Why not? And so

943
00:47:13,810 --> 00:47:16,490
I think even giving the grace
to know, what are the fears? What

944
00:47:16,490 --> 00:47:20,370
are the excuses? And saying,
that's okay. Let's do this together.

945
00:47:20,450 --> 00:47:21,610
And that's what discipleship.

946
00:47:21,610 --> 00:47:22,370
Yes. Yeah.

947
00:47:22,370 --> 00:47:25,170
That's what community is for.
You're not alone. I can walk away,

948
00:47:25,170 --> 00:47:28,450
like, me and my friend at the
mall and be like, I mean, I was discouraged.

949
00:47:28,890 --> 00:47:31,450
Then she encouraged me of,
like, we did it. Like, we were obedient.

950
00:47:31,530 --> 00:47:32,010
Yeah.

951
00:47:32,250 --> 00:47:34,450
Just your sandals. She was a
person of peace.

952
00:47:34,450 --> 00:47:37,770
Yes. And I think obedience,
like, is the reward.

953
00:47:38,010 --> 00:47:38,410
Yes.

954
00:47:38,410 --> 00:47:42,410
So, like, even if you, like,
can't see the results of your obedience

955
00:47:42,410 --> 00:47:44,769
or, like, they do reject you
or they spit in your face, whatever

956
00:47:44,769 --> 00:47:50,570
it is, like, let obedience be
the reward. Like, that your actions

957
00:47:50,570 --> 00:47:55,770
gave glory to King Jesus. And
so I also think a lot about this

958
00:47:55,770 --> 00:47:59,550
verse. I feel like the Lord
has really been like. Like etching

959
00:47:59,550 --> 00:48:02,390
this verse into my brain
recently of just, like, restore to

960
00:48:02,390 --> 00:48:05,750
me the joy of your salvation
and grant me a willing spirit to

961
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:09,510
sustain me like God. I
ultimately, like, I need God to help

962
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:11,910
me be obedient. Like, I need
the spirit in that, too. And so,

963
00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:14,790
like, there's. There's freedom
in that. And knowing that we can't

964
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:18,550
do this and knowing that if
you feel ill equipped, join the club.

965
00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:22,070
Like, that's. That's literally
all of us. And so, yeah, I would

966
00:48:22,070 --> 00:48:26,490
just, I guess, like, my final
challenges to anyone listening that

967
00:48:26,490 --> 00:48:31,570
might be trying to feel, like,
shame or guilt or anything like that.

968
00:48:31,570 --> 00:48:34,770
Shame is not from the Lord.
Reject that. Rebuke that in Jesus

969
00:48:34,770 --> 00:48:37,650
name there is grace, and that
there is forgiveness and repentance.

970
00:48:38,290 --> 00:48:41,850
And so I guess my challenge to
y' all would be if you don't feel

971
00:48:41,850 --> 00:48:44,810
a burden for the lost. Pray
for it. Ask the Lord to bring that

972
00:48:44,810 --> 00:48:50,330
in your heart and ask the Lord
for opportunities like, and exercise

973
00:48:50,330 --> 00:48:53,670
it like a muscle. And if you
don't know how to do it or you feel

974
00:48:53,670 --> 00:48:57,750
ill equipped, you're allowed
to ask for help. Like, you're allowed

975
00:48:57,750 --> 00:49:00,430
to ask someone, like, hey,
I've noticed that this seems to be

976
00:49:00,430 --> 00:49:03,590
really easy for you. Like, can
you help me? And like, let the Lord

977
00:49:03,670 --> 00:49:06,630
use someone else to come
alongside you in that process. That

978
00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:10,630
is discipleship. That is the
purpose of community. So, yeah, those

979
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:11,430
would be my final thoughts.

980
00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:15,390
I love that. Yeah. Any final
thoughts for me would really just

981
00:49:15,390 --> 00:49:17,910
be. I think we have incredible resources.

982
00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:18,470
Yeah.

983
00:49:18,650 --> 00:49:22,490
Incredible people here at
Fielder Church. And so again, just

984
00:49:22,490 --> 00:49:26,810
for anybody listening, anybody
that's watching the YouTube video,

985
00:49:27,530 --> 00:49:32,770
reach out to us. We would love
to walk alongside you to give you

986
00:49:32,770 --> 00:49:37,770
the resources to train you up,
to go with you to evangelize. Because

987
00:49:37,770 --> 00:49:41,610
there is a lost and dying
world and we want to do it with you.

988
00:49:41,610 --> 00:49:42,810
Yeah, yeah, I agree.

989
00:49:42,890 --> 00:49:46,850
Let's go to ETA together. Hey,
I'll bring my stroller. I think two

990
00:49:46,850 --> 00:49:49,410
verses that come to mind out
of Matthew. You know, we are memorizing

991
00:49:49,410 --> 00:49:52,650
scripture together as a
church, as a community, and one of

992
00:49:52,650 --> 00:49:55,410
them that we're not there yet.
That I don't say this to shame you,

993
00:49:55,410 --> 00:49:59,090
but I want to bring a reality
that in Matthew 10:33 it says, but

994
00:49:59,090 --> 00:50:02,290
whoever denies me before men,
I will also deny before my Father

995
00:50:02,290 --> 00:50:07,170
who is in heaven. And so
having the boldness to say, I'm not

996
00:50:07,170 --> 00:50:10,210
ashamed of the gospel, for it
is the power of salvation for those

997
00:50:10,210 --> 00:50:13,780
who believe. Yes, there's
power in sharing the gospel, but

998
00:50:13,940 --> 00:50:16,620
like we said earlier, you, if
you're a believer, you have the Holy

999
00:50:16,620 --> 00:50:19,260
Spirit, he's going to give you
everything you need. You're still

1000
00:50:19,260 --> 00:50:19,620
within.

1001
00:50:19,700 --> 00:50:20,180
Yeah.

1002
00:50:20,180 --> 00:50:24,940
So like, the next one that we
are memorizing is saying, like, therefore

1003
00:50:24,940 --> 00:50:28,020
let your light shine before
men that they may see your good works

1004
00:50:28,020 --> 00:50:29,660
and give glory to your Father
in heaven.

1005
00:50:29,660 --> 00:50:30,100
Yes.

1006
00:50:30,980 --> 00:50:32,740
Yeah, that's my final thoughts.

1007
00:50:33,460 --> 00:50:34,180
I don't know what else.

1008
00:50:34,180 --> 00:50:34,980
Let's speak.

1009
00:50:34,980 --> 00:50:39,000
No, I agree, I agree. I was
also thinking like, if you are, if

1010
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,160
you're listening to this and
you're like, ah, this doesn't really

1011
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,240
apply to me. Or you're kind
of, maybe not hard hearted to it,

1012
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:46,720
but you're just like in one
ear, out the other kind of thing.

1013
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:52,320
I'm going to read Hebrews
10:26. For if we go on sinning deliberately

1014
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,440
after receiving the knowledge
of the truth. There no longer remains

1015
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,920
a sacrifice for sins, but a
fearful expectation of judgment and

1016
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,000
a fury of fire that will
consume the adversaries. And again,

1017
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,160
this isn't. Not to. This isn't
to shame you necessarily, but just,

1018
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,090
like, something to consider.
Like, the gravity, the value that

1019
00:51:09,090 --> 00:51:12,410
the Lord places on sharing our
faith and on the gospel. Like, like,

1020
00:51:12,410 --> 00:51:16,330
he. I. I think, like one of
our pastors said one time about how

1021
00:51:16,570 --> 00:51:20,130
the Lord chose his people to
be the method for the gospel to be

1022
00:51:20,130 --> 00:51:23,010
sent. And so it's like, you're
chosen for this. Like, and so even

1023
00:51:23,010 --> 00:51:25,930
if you don't feel it or you
feel inadequate or there's fear,

1024
00:51:26,010 --> 00:51:28,690
like, just remind yourself of
that. Like, I have been chosen for

1025
00:51:28,690 --> 00:51:31,970
this. Like, the Lord has
selected me to do this. And so let

1026
00:51:31,970 --> 00:51:34,930
your obedience be that. Like,
don't continue to, like, quench the

1027
00:51:34,930 --> 00:51:37,370
spirit. Don't continue to be
disobedient when the Lord is ask

1028
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:39,710
to move forward in those
conversations. So.

1029
00:51:39,710 --> 00:51:42,190
Oh, yeah, and to quote, sorry,
go ahead.

1030
00:51:42,190 --> 00:51:45,190
Well, send us stories. If
you're, like, encouraged by this,

1031
00:51:45,190 --> 00:51:48,750
and you're like, man, I went
and the Lord did answer my prayer.

1032
00:51:48,750 --> 00:51:50,590
We want to hear about it. We
want to praise God.

1033
00:51:50,590 --> 00:51:50,990
Amen.

1034
00:51:50,990 --> 00:51:51,270
For sure.

1035
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:51,670
I agree.

1036
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:55,750
And to quote the great Jenny
Allen, she said, wake up, because

1037
00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:59,310
the church is plan A. There is
no plan B.

1038
00:51:59,310 --> 00:52:00,150
Yes, that's right.

1039
00:52:00,550 --> 00:52:01,270
We got to go.

1040
00:52:01,350 --> 00:52:04,590
But. Okay, now let's go. We're
going Kroger, right?

1041
00:52:04,590 --> 00:52:05,430
I'm going to uta.

1042
00:52:07,070 --> 00:52:09,990
Thank you guys for listening.
We hope that this encouraged and

1043
00:52:09,990 --> 00:52:13,390
challenged you and maybe even
invited you to have some good time

1044
00:52:13,390 --> 00:52:16,950
in prayer with King Jesus and
ask him to convict you or to reveal

1045
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:19,550
anything in your heart that's
preventing you from seeing the value

1046
00:52:19,550 --> 00:52:22,910
of it. And for those who are,
like, excited about this opportunity,

1047
00:52:22,910 --> 00:52:26,270
we're excited with you. We're
here to support you and to evangelize

1048
00:52:26,270 --> 00:52:30,030
with you. So please, like,
reach out. Let us know how we can

1049
00:52:30,030 --> 00:52:31,670
help. And we just love you
guys so much.

1050
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:32,350
Love, y' all.

1051
00:52:32,350 --> 00:52:32,830
Peace.

1052
00:52:32,990 --> 00:52:33,470
Peace.