Hello and welcome to this week's Choosing Healthy Podcast. We're still in August and the months of woo. And this is a very special interview with Fiona Clark, the Zenergizer. If you want to know what the Zenergizer is, stay tuned and find out more in this week's Choosing Healthy Podcast. Choosing Happy Podcast. Hello and welcome to this week's Choosing Happy Podcast. I'm your host, Heather Masters. And as we continue with our woo month, I'm excited to be chatting with a very special lady, a magical woman, Fiona Clark. Now, Fiona is the Zenergizer, a transformational energy expert, a lover of life, learning, and all things energy and healing. Welcome Fiona. Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here with you, Heather. Thank you. So can you begin by telling us a little bit about you, your own journey and discovering energy healing and how you help people? Oh my goodness. Yes. Well, my journey into energy healing, which I think is, um, probably similar to many people's who go into this field was, uh, because of a car accident. Um, that is what It was a gift, actually, when I look back on it now, because it led me into this work. So, basically, I had a car accident on the M25. I was the fourth out of five cars and I could see a BMW coming at full speed into the back of me as well. So I basically had two whiplash injuries in that car accident. And then three months later I had another one stationary at the lights and someone went into the back of me. So somebody was clearly trying to get a message to me. So I really had so much, oh, so much pain. Um, and I did, obviously I had to go down the medical route because I wanted to get insurance from the car, dah, dah, dah, dah. And they kept saying to me, you know, I had manipulation under anaesthetic. I had doctors in Harley Street telling me that. I would have problems for the rest of my life and dah, dah, dah, dah, so I mean I was only in my 20s at the time. Um, and then I, um, so I was going along with the narrative, nothing was shifting or changing. And then I was working with a friend of mine, um, I used to work for British Airways, so we were in a wonderful place in Caracas in Venezuela and she said to me, Do you mind if I try this thing on you? and I thought you can try anything you like and it was touch for health and I don't know if many people have actually heard of touch for health but I was just mesmerized it's not one arty you're doing it was muscle testing you know the margins of my body to find out what the cause was. So, so, so, so, so, I went to her kinesiologist, and I was so blown away because she basically fixed my neck in two sessions. And I was still going to the doctors because I still hadn't had the insurance. So I was still going down the narrative, but they were still telling me the same old story. Yes, you're going to have problems for the rest of your life, and da da da da da. And I said, well, actually I haven't because my neck is all right, and I'm not going to tell you that. Oh, God. It's a caricature. Which took four years. So that's what led me into this magical world. And so I thought, well, what else to do but train as a kinesiologist, which is what I did in 1991. And I was one of those pain in the neck, obsessive people who would go around and say, but I know what you can do, or you need to do this, this, and this. I was so enthralled by what we could find out when we delve deeper into the cause of an issue and we look into the body as to, you know, whether it's a physical, emotional, spiritual, nutritional or electrical issue and how you can correct it and bring the body back into balance. Because, you know, we're either out of balance or in balance. It doesn't matter what you want to call the symptom, it's the body being out of balance. So that's really what, um, that's where my journey started. And of course, once I'd started into this world of energy, I then trained as a reflexologist, which. Was not on the cards, but a friend of mine's father was dying She said, oh I need to do this to help my dad. Would you do it with me? And I was like, I couldn't think of anything worse than playing around with people's feet. But as it happened, I became a complete foot fetish. I absolutely loved people's feet. You know in yoga, I'd be like, yeah, I know what's going on for you I can see this and that, that's without even touching your feet. And I was absolutely enthralled by what we could find out on the foot. So it just went on and you know, I traded so many different things because one thing led into another, whether it was crystals or energy healing, hands on healing, or, um, what else have I done? EFT practitioner. I've done that. I've done coaching, theta healing, all sorts of different things. Because for me, it's really delving deeper into the body. to find out what the cause is, not just treating symptoms and knowing how we can heal ourselves, which I totally believe we can all do. It's just getting back into knowing ourselves well enough to understand what the messages are. And that's really where my journey is. And then of course, you know, in the last few years, I've added in, um, frequency healing with Healy and also life wave patches, which. Is the technology combining with the ancient art? So it's the modern day science bringing in the ancient art and it's just phenomenal. I absolutely love it. So yeah, that's a very short synopsis of my story from how I started into, you know, why I continue this because I just love it. I absolutely love it. So, can you just explain a little bit about Healy and the patches, because I'm sure there are people living in the area. Yes, oh my goodness, no, I, exactly, no idea what I'm talking about. So Healy is a little device, it's literally, literally about two inches by two inches. It is a frequency device. When you think of it, we are just energy, frequency and vibration. Everything vibrates at a different frequency depending on where you are, how you feel, what that energy is of that plant, animal, stone, rock, whatever. And if you're feeling sad or depressed or you're sick or you're stressed, your frequency is going to be very low. And so we want to bring that frequency up. We want to elevate into that higher frequency. realm of consciousness if we can also. And so what Healy does, this magical little device, it's got about 144, 000 frequencies in it. And we can either wear it with the micro current straps, which then the frequency goes straight into the cellular level and repair the physical body in that respect, or we can use it in the auric field. So the energy field, so it can read your energy field. And I bought it because I was doing a lot of work with the chakras, which I just love because they just tell a story of where we are in all of our areas of life. And I was amazed when I found out this had a chakra program, I was like, I have got to have one of those. And so when I bought it about just over three years ago, all I did, I did hundreds of chakra readings or a reading. on people and I was blown away by the accuracy of what this thing was telling me and it was very much about, it would tell us what is the cause of the issue that we're going for or The symptoms, it will give us the consequences. It may be a karmic thing. It may be something that on a physical level, we've repressed for a very long time. It may be our belief system that's creating the problem. And then it sends the frequencies back into the field of energy, your field, to bring that back into balance. And. I'd be blown away by it. As I say, it's just incredible what it does. I've used it on animals. I use it, um, distantly. I don't see clients face to face anymore because I do all the work on Zoom or I do it distant, distant healing. So that's the Healy. And we've got the Mag Healy, which is a magnetic thing. So that's also another part of that. But the LifeWave patches is something else that I've recently, um, started to use. And, oh my goodness, these are a slightly different, um, They're working on the light frequency, so it's photobiomodulation. So when you put these patches on your skin, there's nothing inside. They're non transdermal, so they're not like a nicotine patch or a pomegranate patch. They're a patch that you put on the body for 12 hours, you take it off for 12 hours. There's 12 different ones, and what they're doing is they are being stimulated by the light and the heat of your body, which reactivates. your stem cells, basically. It's activating the copper peptides, which reactivate the stem cells, because I didn't know, maybe you don't know this either, Heather, that by the time we're 30, we've lost 50 percent of our stem cells. By the time we are 60, 90 percent of those stem cells in our body have deactivated themselves. They've gone to sleep. They're not working. So, you know, our stem cells are the stem, are the cells that They're neutral cells that convert into any cells, whether they're bone cells, muscle cells, brain cells, or whatever. So this is why we age, because, you know, the stem cells are sleeping, and we are sleeping, and that's why our body starts to deteriorate, because everything is, is not repairing itself or regenerating itself like it does when we're a kid, or a young adult. You know, you fall over, you get up, you, your body knows it heals itself very quickly. Whereas when you get older, it takes longer. And this is why people start, Oh, I've got this and I've got that, da da da da da. These patches, and I've been using them for about six months now, are phenomenal. And just one experience I had was I had a problem with one of my hips and I think it was due to the cycle and I was like, it felt like it was bone on bone at one point, it was so sore and I was hobbling around, which my friends, you know, I'm in very fit and healthy, they're like, what are you doing? And I was hobbling around for months. And I put these patches on and didn't take too long. And my God, I was like, Oh my God, I'm not hobbling. So it's cleared that it's actually regenerated. And so it's. It's an incredible technology. David Schmidt, who is the founder and the creator of these, they're patented, they research, they've got clinical trials. It is a phenomenal, he's an absolute genius, technology that, um, is helping so many people. I've seen athletes use them. I've seen people who've had, uh, maybe, um, autism, but also degenerative mental illnesses, whether it's Alzheimer's or any of these things, I've actually just turned it around because what it's doing is it's actually reversing your age. So every eight weeks, it's phenomenal to find this out, eight weeks of using patches, you become six weeks younger, which is quite mind blowing actually, because I think all of us, I don't care personally how old, you know, it says on the digits. But I do care about how I feel and what I'm able to do. I don't want to be one of those people, Oh, God, it's my age. Oh, no, it's retirement. Oh, I can't do this and I can't do that. No. I want to still be cycling and doing what I'm doing in my 70s, 80s, whatever. Yeah, me too. So, it's quite amazing. It's exciting. It's really, really exciting. Brilliant. Um, just on the Healy, just to go back to that, um, because you were saying it reads, how does it read? Does it just go into the How do you direct it, if you like? So basically what we do is we, we put a profile in to the app on the phone. Um, so we take your details and it scans through the quantum field and the sensor from the profile that we have. Um, and we always obviously set an intention for whatever it is that we are wanting more of, whatever that might be. And so that's how it does it through the quantum field, through the sensor, because energy has no time or space. It doesn't matter if I'm working with you right next to me or whether you're in Australia, America, wherever, because there is no time or space. And so once you focus the energy within the app and you know, we've, we've got that and then the quantum sensor tunes into your energy field, it's just the same as we can do. with Reiki or with anything else, distant healing, it's all the same. Um, it's just having that intention, that focus, but obviously with the technology, it can scan straight through your energy field, which is, it's just mind blowing actually, but it's quite fascinating to see what comes up. So with all of the tools and techniques, because I know you've, as you say, you've got years and years of experience of learning many different things. How do you serve your customers? What, what do you offer them specifically? Yeah, that's a great question. So I think what, um, What I love about this technology, I've always had, you know, little bits and pieces like, Oh my God, this is out. I've always loved technology. And over the years of, you know, with my kinesiology and when I used to be flying around the world, there will be something else out and be like, Oh my God, I need to see what that is. So I've always had a, an inkling sort of like, just to check these things out to see, because, you know, energy is energy. Um, So what I have found since I've been using Healy, um, is that what could quite often take a very long time to discover what a cause is of a particular issue, Healy can do in seconds. It's phenomenal because it's reading what's going on emotionally. It's not just on the physical level. This is where can we have the flower remedies, which I've used for ever. I mean, I used to about 400 bottles because all my clients would have a flower essence because they work with the emotional states of mind. And let's face it, everything we have going on within our physical body. This out of balance stems from an emotional cause. Always. So I always look at the emotions first because once we bring the body back into a place of neutrality, that's when the body can then heal. It cannot heal if it's in stress, if it's in that mind and fight and fright. So we have to come back into neutral as much as possible so we can heal the body. And so Healy just gets straight, it's like right down, laser, laser focused right down into the core. And it can tell you just like that. I mean, we have coaching, we have a coaching program, which is also phenomenal. And I know one of the coaches in the States who uses Healy, who's been coaching for 25 years, she said what would take her six months to discover what the core issue is now takes her six minutes. Brilliant. So it's, it's more accurate than a lot of different things that we can. And also let's face it, we don't really know what's cooking inside of our body. No, a lot of us are unconscious at the moment. Exactly. And you know, a lot of the physical stuff only comes out when it's ready to sort of like really burst the bubble. But it hasn't just literally happened overnight. You know, this ease takes time to manifest and to grow. So if we can work, number one, with the energy field before it gets into the physical body, then you're going to cut those corners off completely. Yeah. Yeah. And do you teach Healy or coaching? Yeah, I mean, I, um, I did try and do some life coach many years ago, but I just find it, I found it a bit frustrating because it's like, Oh my God, I could use tapping to get to the core of this issue so much quicker than just, you know, exploring it. And I always want to get to the core of an issue rather than just treating symptoms. So, um, I don't teach, but I mean, I share, I have my group with people who have bought HEDYS from me. So we have a meeting every week where we discuss what we're working with, maybe work with a different program, because we've got over 200 programs. So we're exploring how to use all of these different programs at different times of the year. We've got all sorts of different programs. We've got. The Power of Three, which is a nine week program with the Ayurvedic principles, and that is just mind blowing. So, it's clearing out the body mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, every way. Very powerful stuff. So, I do that every week. And anybody who buys the Hindi from me is well supported because it's quite easy to use quite honestly, but it takes practice. And I suppose the more complicated thing about it is delving deeper into the things that we do now that we've been using it for a few years. And it's just understanding how we can do that to get into the coaching or maybe even the I Ching, which is the Jinkies. Jinkies is the modern version of the I Ching, which is, um, fascinating because it is, the I Ching is the second oldest book of wisdom in the world. The Chinese, you know, that was their Bible really. And that really works on the shadow aspects of who we are. It's a contemplative tool. So we can find out all these different things. So you're really getting a lot deeper into your. core issues and all the shadow things and the things that we don't consciously want to admit that we don't like about ourselves. So yeah. So I teach it, I share it, but my thing is for people to actually understand it well enough, get their own, work on your own. health, be responsible for taking your health into your hands because we've just lost that ability to know even which acupressure points that we need to use to, to clear different pain in the body or emotional stressors in the body, whatever it is. But once your body understands what you're doing, it is so quick and easy to bring the body back into balance. It doesn't have to take long. And I know you have a, yeah, I was just going to say, I know you have a YouTube channel with, and you've, on there, there are so many simple techniques that make a massive difference and that your knowledge of the meridians is amazing. as well. And that's something we've lost is really understanding the energy flow within our own body. So can you talk a little bit? I mean, the meridians. Yeah. Yeah. The meridians. Do you know, I love the meridians. I mean, obviously that's what I first started using when with kinesiology because that is what you're doing. Your energy, your meridians are really just a super highway that are coming up and down your body. There's 14 of them. There's actually 12 artificial, but then we've got eight, what they call, um, extraordinary meridians. The, the, the one at the front and the back of the body, they're called the, the, the, the vortexes, the meridians, the central and the gutter meridians. But the meridians really are where you put the acupuncture points and needles into certain points on those meridians. If you are, if you think about it, if you're stressed, sick or in pain, Your body is out of balance and there's a block of energy, just like if you see a beautiful stream and you know when it's flowing lovely and it's all sparkly and it looks gorgeous and you just want to put your feet in it, that is just how our energy feels when it's all vibrant and it's flowing through your body beautifully. When you see the water, All stuck in a corner. It's all gone grey and greeny and slimy. That is like a block. That's a stagnation of energy, which is what happens in our body, which is the pain, the stress, the sickness. So what we're always doing is just saying, right, where do we need to take that rock out to let that water flow so we can come back into the flow, into movement. And so that's really what the meridians are there to do is to say, well, look, what, where, where are the blocks, points do we need to use to open up those points? Um, which is what that an acupuncturist will do. But what, Healy did it last year, last November, actually, on the MagHealy, which is our magnetic, uh, device, which is just a mind blowing device as well. They brought out a Meridian program. I'm not sure if I did one of these on you, um, with you, Heather, at all. So, no, I don't think I have. It is mind blowing. Apparently, it took them five years to put this technology together, and it's reading your meridians, and you can see it on the phone, on the app, it's scanning the meridians up and down, so you can see it going through each of the individual meridians, and it then comes up with two points in each of the meridians that are blocked. What the causes are, whether it's a karmic thing, whether it's an, um, an emotional cause, whether it's something that's to do with your, um, thinking, which is karma. More than likely our belief systems are all patterns of thinking which create all the shit in the life it's like that's where it comes from or Whatever it is, and then it will give you the the consequences of that But also the frequencies then may be unbalanced Homeopathic frequencies to correct that, bring it into balance. They may give you certain exercises for those meridians. They may give you dietary suggestions about what is needed for those meridians. And then I send the frequencies every day and I have been blown away. Yet again, I get so excited. I'm like a, a child in a sweetie shop when I do these things because it just is so spot on. And it, it can be. very direct because it's really getting into those shadow sides quite often of what we don't know. We know something's not right, but we don't know why or where it's come from. And of course, if we don't have awareness, how can we change anything? Absolutely. So once we have awareness, it's like, Oh my God, I sort of knew that, but I didn't know that. Now I really know it. You have a choice. You can either stay like that or you can do something to shoot. Brilliant. That's why I love the meridians. Love the meridians. So what is the difference with MagHealy? So the MagHealy is the magnetic force that works with the mag, um, magnetic waves. So the Healy works with our auric field, with a quantum sensor. The magnetic waves, you can put Healy in the room and it vibrates these waves out to about three meters. Right. So you, you can sit and it's, it's, it's just amazing. And we've got atmosphere programs on there. We've got water programs on there. So I've got 24 different water programs. So we're actually infusing our water with different frequencies. Right. Whether it's for bioenergetic support or whether it's for the cell harmony or whether it's for more energy. One of the ideas, we've got 24 protons and it is phenomenal. When I do that, what's fascinating is I, because I've got a see through glass bottle, I can see all the bubbles in the water, which they weren't before. So you can see it's changed the vibration of the water and it does taste different. So it's destructure the water. So it's just, yeah, absolutely. It structures the water in a different way. Yeah. Brilliant. Brilliant. And just because it's very, I think it's, it's very current at the moment around mental health and depression and trauma. How do those devices work with those? Oh, wow. They are phenomenal because we do have problems, for example, physical. We have a, we have a mental balance program. Um, just in the same way, they're just different frequencies. You know, if you are in the frequency of balance or in the heart frequency, which I think is six to nine frequency, or if you're in four, three, eight, that's the balance of the body. These are what are used in some of these programs. I mean, I always, as I said earlier, use the flower essences to start with. So we have the Alaskan, uh, Gem and Lexis, we have the Australian bush, and we have the bark flowers. Because they will give us an understanding of what's going on with those emotions, whether you are, you know, whether it's lack of confidence, whether it's lack of self worth, whether it's a lack of, you know, being in your heart or not being grounded, whatever it is. And then those frequencies from these flower essences will go into the energy field, because remember everything starts in the energy field before it comes into the physical. So if we can work in the energy field, we're stopping it from coming into the physical body. and manifesting in a much deeper way. So we've got loads and loads of programs that we use. We've got coherence, we've got, you know, heart chakra, we've got all sorts of different things, contentment, um, other soul cycle programs, which are all about inner peace, serenity, that sort of thing. And it's just the same Same theory, we're just sending those into the body and we're not sending them for very long. It can just be as little as 40 seconds. Generally, I would do 1 minute 20 or 2 minutes 50. That is it. It doesn't have to be a long time. And that's what's just so mind blowing. Because we are just frequency. And the more we work with frequencies, the higher our frequency rises, so that we don't respond in the same way. And this is one of the first things I noticed after using Healy for a while. I thought, normally that such and such a thing would have really stressed me, but now it's going straight to my head. Because stress is a perception, Heather, you know that. You know, what stresses you won't stress me and vice versa. It's a perception of what our old beliefs from our childhood have created us to believe about something and the stress is the response to that. So if we can come back into neutral, into the present moment, not thinking about what might happen or what has happened, there is no stress. Yeah. Yeah. There can't be. There just can't be. Yeah. And obviously, you know, you see that in general, just if you look at emergency services people, they probably have a higher stress threshold. Yeah. And someone who's not used to that as well, so yeah. Yep. And the, the frequencies, I can't remember the scale. Are you, is it using, there is a scale isn't there with, um, with the different frequencies and I can't remember the word for it. There's a, uh, like the Tesla scale. I can't remember what it was called. Yeah. I, um, yes, I'm not sure what that is, but yeah, I mean, ideally what, if we're really healthy, we want to be in the frequency of between 62 and 72 Hertz. When we're in that frequency, we're in balance. If we are running higher than that, say you're going into a deep meditation, you might go up into sort of 82, but once you get below the 62 hertz, so you come down to 50, this is when the body is obviously going into degeneration or into illness or disease because your frequency is just, it's not high enough to keep you at that place of balance. So, obviously, there's so many different ways you can look at the frequencies if you go onto YouTube and look at Um, say you Google heart frequency, I'm pretty sure that's 629, um, I can't remember them all off the top of my head now, but I know I've got them all written down somewhere. But every frequency has a different vibration, obviously for a different thing as such, because we know the frequency for love will be a different frequency to inner peace, or for a different frequency to hate. So, obviously, an anger, it's a different vibe. We know that in ourselves. Okay. On the scientific point of view, they will have had this all measured and you can, and that's what the Healy does. And the interesting thing with Healy is, compared to the Rife machine or the spooky, I said not the spooky one, um, is that when we are using the micro currents on the wrist, what Healy is doing, and this is unique to Healy, it's not a set frequency, which a lot of frequency machines you'll go into, and this is why a lot of things Won't work for people because, you know, three people can have a headache, but those headaches will come from the, from a different cause. So if you send them all the same frequency, They may not all have a good result, but what Healy's doing is actually it changes the frequency and you can see this on the app every 10 seconds because it's actually tuning into your frequency and when it's got your frequency of what it needs to bring it back into balance, it will stay at that frequency. So this is why I can use the same program on three or five different people and it'll all be a different frequency because we're all unique. We're not all the same frequency. So, you know, 438 might feel right for you today, but it might not feel right for you tomorrow. Yeah. Or it might not feel good for somebody else. So, you know, you've got to treat us all as individuals and that's why when we're using the scanning, we are scanning your frequency as it is there and then. tomorrow or even later in the afternoon, it will probably be different. So this is what it's, it's, it's quite mind blowing. Yeah. So how do people find out about you and how, what kind of programs or offers do you have? I, um, I've, I do quite a lot of group programs. I've literally just finished one yesterday where we were doing a more money please for, we did it for a month actually, where I do a lot of group programs so people can just come in and, um, I get people to set their intentions. You've done a few of these Heather and, We work together on a collective, which is also very powerful. And then I send frequencies to the group every day for an hour, which is super powerful and it does shift huge, huge things, even though it's a group, it's still incredibly powerful, so we can do that on a one to one basis. I. Do the Aura reading so we can find out if there's some aspect in your life of thinking I'm so sick of this. I don't know which way to turn. It's a recurring problem, but I'm still going through the same old thing. We can find out what is the cause? What are the blocks? So I can do that with an Aura or a Meridian. But what I do with those on a one to one is to work with you for say three or four weeks minimum because obviously sometimes These issues are deeper and you know, Heather, if there's layers, so we just peel away the layers and we're always working on, I'm always doing things on myself because there's always more to work on, which is so wonderful because we're just. Getting better and better, happier and happier. And that's the bottom line. We just want to be happy, don't we, at the end of the day? Yeah. University of life. Absolutely. And it does throw some, it does throw some challenges around. But as I've always said, you know, I truly believe that every challenge that we have Makes it number one more resilient, but it always, always has a gift. Even if we don't see it at the time, it will have a gift at some point for us as well. Yeah, like joining the dots backwards. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, definitely. You touched on money and manifestation. That's really wonderful. Popular, obviously in the current climate. Yes. How does healing and how does the energy work with that? Well, it, I, I always find money, the topic of money is such an interesting one because it's, it's a belief system, isn't it? It's just an energy. It's just an exchange. You're exchanging one thing for something else, whether it's chickpeas or whether it's cash or gold or whatever. But we've got such belief systems surrounding that from parents, from ancient, um, belief systems that we've been brought up with, been indoctrinated with, whatever, that we are in lack a lot of the time, that we, we feel that we're more in lack rather than abundance. So what I've done with these is we literally, number one, set the intention of what you. you want to have. And what Healey will come up with is the programs that show us where the blocks are. What emotionally is stopping you from having that? What are your beliefs around that? And once we start to clear those away, and it's not about trusting. I have an issue with the word trust because I just think it's a bit needy. I trust in this, I trust in that. I want people to think of, I know, yeah, that I have enough. I know that, you know, Money is my divine right to have enough and in fact, not enough, but more than enough. So when I'm working with Healy, I've got different prosperity programs. Um, I do all sorts of different things where it changes the energy. It elevates that vibration and frequency so that you become into that place of, I know that whatever it is that I, I desire, I have it because it is there. One of the universal laws is the law of, um, infinite. abundance. There is no lack. There is way more than we believe in our little tiny minds that we are able to have. So it is a mindset problem. Money is not the issue. It is a, it's a mindset issue. And once we change the mindset and the belief systems, then the world's your oyster. There is no limitation. Yeah, it's coming. We do tend to put limitations on it. And it's coming back to realizing how powerful we truly are. And as you say, as we're all in the internet, we all have access to what I think is an internet banter. Yeah. Brilliant. Exactly. Yeah. So is there any final thought you would like to leave us with today? Final thought? What I would say to anybody who is listening is never have any doubts about how you can heal yourself and how really your body can heal itself, whether it is, you know, through the technology that I'm using to get to the cause and find out what that is, or whether you just learn how to. do your meditation or what acupressure points or different points on your body so you can heal yourself. Never doubt in yourself of what you can do for yourself because we are all healers. Um, and we can heal ourselves from anything and everything. It's just that our mindset tells us differently. In the ancient wisdom, that's why the chakras have been around for thousands of years, the meridians, because this is how the ancient would heal themselves. They are just guides. They're roadmaps to find out what is going on and what is out of balance in your body. So the more we can understand ourselves on all levels, energetically, spiritually, emotionally, the happier that we can be, because that's really what we're looking for, isn't it? That deep sense of being in that high vibration of inner peace, joy, serenity, and divine happiness and love. Choosing happy. So yeah, choosing happy exactly. This has been so powerful and amazing. So thank you so much for being here today. You're most welcome. And thank you for having me. Hopefully we'll speak with you again. Okay. Thanks. Definitely. Thank you. Bye. Bye.

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