I wonder, how many of you, when you ask your colleagues, how are you, just expect
Speaker:them to say, you know, busy, stressed?
Speaker:For me, it's just become the norm to get that response, particularly when
Speaker:I'm talking to people in healthcare.
Speaker:In fact, I was quite shocked the other day I was on a teams call with the GP.
Speaker:And he said he wasn't stressed at all, and his workload was
Speaker:the best it's been in 20 years.
Speaker:Now drop us a line.
Speaker:If he wants to know how he's done that.
Speaker:And maybe we'll get home the podcast.
Speaker:But I remember when I was talking to him, I felt quite shocked because I hadn't
Speaker:heard that for a very, very long time.
Speaker:And I remember talking to a physio recently, she was telling me about
Speaker:a patient she had, who was a runner.
Speaker:And he had quite significant knee injury.
Speaker:And when he'd gone to see her, he said to her, well, of course, I'm
Speaker:going to get injured aren't I?
Speaker:because I'm a runner, injury is just normal for us.
Speaker:And she was quite shocked as well.
Speaker:She said, well, now it's not normal.
Speaker:Being injured is not normal.
Speaker:Now it might be common, but it's not normal.
Speaker:And I've done episodes on this before that stress is common, particularly
Speaker:at the moment, but it is not normal
Speaker:And if you continue to believe that, well, stress is just normal, particularly
Speaker:the sorts of work that I do, then you are really in danger of being
Speaker:like that frog in boiling water, just not noticing how hot the temperature
Speaker:has become until you burn out.
Speaker:And that's what I wants to talk about today.
Speaker:Because I think most of us leave it far too late to do anything about stress
Speaker:and to do anything about burnout.
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Speaker:And I guess if we think that being stressed is normal, then it
Speaker:feels like we're making a fuss.
Speaker:If we do anything about it, or if we seek help or we try and change things
Speaker:with it, I think we're overreacting or even more toxic mindset that we get is
Speaker:that, well, maybe it's just me that can't keep cause of stress is this normal?
Speaker:And I'm not having a good time right here.
Speaker:And I really worried about my own health, then what is wrong with me?
Speaker:So I want to talk to you today about the pathway into burnout and why it
Speaker:is quite literally a slippery slope.
Speaker:Because many of us think, and, and I have thought this for a long, long
Speaker:time as well that you can predict when you're going to burn out.
Speaker:You can predict as the stress gets worse and worse and you feel worse
Speaker:that it's a pretty linear process.
Speaker:And there's a, a normal progression between being stressed, getting worse,
Speaker:feeling overwhelmed into burnout.
Speaker:And so consequently, we think that when we get to a particular level, that's
Speaker:when we need to do something about it.
Speaker:And typically we leave it far, far too long to do something, to
Speaker:make the changes that we need, to take time off and to rest.
Speaker:But what I've come to realize recently is that it's not a linear process.
Speaker:Because there's a real risk that if you don't recognize stress and overwhelm
Speaker:early, you find yourself in burnout much, much sooner than you thought you would.
Speaker:And by that time, you don't have the chance or the opportunity
Speaker:to do anything about it.
Speaker:The feather you get into burnout, the harder it is to treat, the
Speaker:more time off you need to take, the more it will affect your life.
Speaker:And the bigger the cost for you both emotionally.
Speaker:Financially and professionally.
Speaker:We know that doctors with high levels of burnout have a 63%
Speaker:greater chance of medical error.
Speaker:So when we're in burnout, we make mistakes.
Speaker:It damages our relationships because we're not reacting well to people,
Speaker:and it just makes us feel awful.
Speaker:Anybody who's had a significant burnout does anything they can not to have
Speaker:it again and often makes radical, radical changes to their lives because
Speaker:it's just not a nice place to be.
Speaker:And so many of us wait until we're at the burnout stage or on the edge of burnout to
Speaker:make any changes or do anything different.
Speaker:But if we do recognize this early, we have a chance to do something about it.
Speaker:It's much, much easier to prevent and small actions will make a
Speaker:much, much bigger difference.
Speaker:We'll feel better.
Speaker:We'll be performing better.
Speaker:There'll be less of a soft sick, which as we know, creates a vicious cycle of
Speaker:sickness and stress in other people too.
Speaker:And so our organizations and our teams are going to perform better too.
Speaker:So I believe that this descent through stress and overwhelm
Speaker:and burnout, it's not linear.
Speaker:And we can see this using the Yerkes-Dodson Stress Curve.
Speaker:You can download a copy of the stress curve PDF, and if you're
Speaker:in truck extra, we'll be providing you a full pod sheet workbook.
Speaker:With all the reflective questions and the stress curve in it.
Speaker:Now the Yerkes-Dodson Stress Curve or the pressure performance curve, as it's
Speaker:sometimes known shows what happens to our performance under increasing pressure.
Speaker:So if you just imagine a graph with pressure on the X axis and performance
Speaker:on the y-axis, with a bell shape curve.
Speaker:It essentially tells us that as the pressure increases on
Speaker:us, our performance increases.
Speaker:Now we just launched FrogXtra.
Speaker:And there were quite a few bits and pieces to get ready for it.
Speaker:And as the pressure increased, so me and the team were working harder and harder.
Speaker:It's to get us all ready to prepare the pod courses and all
Speaker:the resources that go into it.
Speaker:And a few days before it was released, we were working at
Speaker:pretty optimal performance.
Speaker:Now in an ideal world, as the deadline got closer, we just keep
Speaker:getting better and better and better.
Speaker:Unfortunately, we don't live in the ideal world do we?
Speaker:We live in the real world.
Speaker:And so after a time at peak performance, as the pressure increased and I was
Speaker:online just trying to fix a few links and just getting stuff ready, I'd been
Speaker:at work for sort of 10 hours or so, my brain was starting to wear out, the
Speaker:pressure was increasing, but I could just feel my performance dipping.
Speaker:And it does, doesn't it for all sorts of reasons.
Speaker:Not least we can't work for a sustained period without any breaks.
Speaker:So that was part of it.
Speaker:But as the pressure increases, we become more anxious.
Speaker:And we start telling us us I'm not going to get everything done.
Speaker:And then we go into our threat zones, our adrenaline, sympathetic zones, where
Speaker:we stop thinking straight because the brain goes from our prefrontal cortex.
Speaker:So I love this curve because it pretty much matches reality.
Speaker:It shows us that as we become overwhelmed with pressure, our brains
Speaker:literally stopped working and we can't perform, we get tired, we get anxious.
Speaker:So as the line goes upwards to the right, from no performance to peak
Speaker:performance under a certain amount of pressure, you will find that the
Speaker:line starts to bend downwards into a curve and your performance starts to
Speaker:decrease as the pressure increases.
Speaker:And so we've got this lovely bell shaped curve.
Speaker:Now when the workload starts to build up just like it did with that
Speaker:membership and the pressure builds up, normally, we just work harder
Speaker:and harder, which is okay to a point.
Speaker:And let's face it.
Speaker:It's the way that we've responded to all our lives.
Speaker:Isn't it?
Speaker:But when we don't have enough resources to meet all the demands that we need,
Speaker:we keep working harder and harder and so what we do is we try and increase
Speaker:our own resources by getting more time.
Speaker:So we'll stop doing things like meeting our friends for coffee or
Speaker:exercise or sleeping or resting in order to make way for the work.
Speaker:Now that can work.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:In short periods of time and in short birth.
Speaker:But if we keep doing that, what we find happens is that when neglecting
Speaker:doing those things that we need to do to re-energize ourselves.
Speaker:And a few years ago, I was preparing a course for Red Whale
Speaker:and we had a publishing deadline.
Speaker:I had lots of articles that needed to be done very quickly.
Speaker:I didn't think I had time to do It.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:I put my children in extra childcare.
Speaker:I stopped going smite exercise classes.
Speaker:I stopped going for coffee with my friends.
Speaker:And I soon found myself feeling really tired because I wasn't sleeping very
Speaker:well because I was waking up thinking about all that extra work, even though
Speaker:I was enjoying what I was doing.
Speaker:As I got tireder and tireder, I started getting grouchier and grouchier with
Speaker:my kids, and then getting a little bit tearful and thinking, gosh, is this all
Speaker:there is to life, just work, work, work?
Speaker:And I soon realized I was starting to slip down the vortex of busy-ness.
Speaker:And at the bottom of the vortex of busy-ness is burnout.
Speaker:Because when the workload builds up, our tendency is
Speaker:just to work harder and harder.
Speaker:And then we stopped doing those very things that we need to do to
Speaker:keep ourselves well and make us feel physically and mentally fit.
Speaker:And this is what happens on the stress curve.
Speaker:As we start to slip off peak performance, then we start to go down.
Speaker:It's not a linear process.
Speaker:It actually gets steeper and steeper and the vortex gets faster and faster and
Speaker:faster and we find ourselves sucked down.
Speaker:So, whereas it might be quite a slow progression from peak performance to
Speaker:starting to feel stressed and then into overwhelm as we get deeper and deeper
Speaker:into the vortex and going down the stress curve, it actually speeds up.
Speaker:And I think we get to a point of no return where it's very, very difficult
Speaker:to pull ourselves out and get back up the curve towards peak performance.
Speaker:Now, I think in black holes, there's a point of no return where the gravity is
Speaker:sucking matter in so fast that nothing can actually accelerate out of it.
Speaker:And that is called the event horizon, please correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker:So I think there was a bit of an event horizon when it
Speaker:comes to stress and burnout.
Speaker:If you're far enough down the vortex, it's very, very difficult to then
Speaker:prevent yourself going into burnout.
Speaker:Now, the treatment for burnout and stress can be quite different.
Speaker:Well, it is totally possible to recover from burnout, but you
Speaker:need to take quite drastic action.
Speaker:You need to take quite significant time off.
Speaker:You need to do some really deep work and reset your life, and you can't go straight
Speaker:back into exactly the same situation as you were in before, otherwise what's going
Speaker:to happen is you get burnout on repeat.
Speaker:But if you start to recognize and treat stress at a very early stage,
Speaker:then there will be some quite small changes that you can make.
Speaker:It's much, much easier to avoid burnout and prevent it in the
Speaker:first place than it is to treat it.
Speaker:Now, if you notice that you are in burnout right now, I want you to stop
Speaker:and I want you to go and get some help.
Speaker:And burnout is characterized by extreme fatigue that
Speaker:doesn't get better with a rest.
Speaker:It's characterized by a lack of empathy, you might feel yourself really cynical or
Speaker:just not caring in the way you used to.
Speaker:And it's also characterized by a feeling that you're
Speaker:performing really, really badly.
Speaker:And oftentimes you are.
Speaker:And I think it's very, very difficult to be performing at a top level with
Speaker:burnout, as we know from the stress curve.
Speaker:So, if that sounds like you, or even you've got a feeling it might be, please
Speaker:stop, get some help, go talk to somebody, go and see a healthcare professional,
Speaker:your GP, occupational health, or your own employee assistance program.
Speaker:And I think the reason why the vortex gets faster and faster and the curve gets
Speaker:steeper and steeper is because the less we pay attention to taking breaks and
Speaker:resting, the less our brain can function.
Speaker:The more, we start to tell ourselves stories about, well, I'm not good enough.
Speaker:I'm not performing well.
Speaker:And of course as the workload's built up and you're worried that you're not
Speaker:performing well, so you try and work harder and harder, you then don't give
Speaker:your brain the chance to catch up, and it becomes a real vicious cycle.
Speaker:And so you're not seeing the stuff your brain needs, therefore you're
Speaker:not performing as well, therefore you try and work even harder and ignore
Speaker:what your brain needs, therefore, it just gets worse and worse and worse.
Speaker:And eventually you end up in burnout.
Speaker:So how can we recognize stress earlier so that we can avoid it
Speaker:rather than going down into that vortex and getting into burnout?
Speaker:Well, here's a few suggestions.
Speaker:Firstly, understand yourself.
Speaker:What are your early warning signs?
Speaker:A friend of mine.
Speaker:So she knows she's slipping down the stress curve when she's walking through
Speaker:town and everybody's getting in her way.
Speaker:Are there certain things that you tend to do, like revenge bedtime procrastination?
Speaker:Now that is when you so busy, do you sit down at about half 11,
Speaker:you know, you should be going to bed, but you think no, this is my
Speaker:time now, I'm not going to spread.
Speaker:I'm just going to binge three episodes of my favorite show on Netflix.
Speaker:Then you end up staying up till one or two in the morning.
Speaker:Just because you deserve it.
Speaker:But obviously the only person that suffers is you, 'cause
Speaker:you're knackered the next day.
Speaker:That's one of my tells.
Speaker:Maybe you can spot some sort of recurrent thoughts that start going
Speaker:through your, your brain, or you start to feel a bit irritated with people you
Speaker:wouldn't normally feel irritated with.
Speaker:Perhaps you're feeling a little bit tearful, or you're moved to tears a bit
Speaker:quicker than you would be otherwise.
Speaker:I certainly felt like that a couple of months ago, um, when I had an episode
Speaker:of near burnout and I've talked about that in the episode called You Can't
Speaker:Organize Your Way Out of Overwhelm.
Speaker:You could also ask your friends and family.
Speaker:I know if I went to my kids and said to them, right, now, can you just tell
Speaker:me how you know that I'm stressed or overwhelmed, I know they will say straight
Speaker:away, well, you just snap this quicker.
Speaker:You accused us of not clearing up the kitchen, all those sorts of things.
Speaker:Of course, we know that stress is a massive cause of ill health and
Speaker:50% of symptoms that presents the GPs are medically unexplained.
Speaker:I think stress accounts for many, many, many of those symptoms.
Speaker:Headaches gastrointestinal problems.
Speaker:It puts your blood pressure up.
Speaker:You might be getting chest pains, all those sorts of things.
Speaker:And obviously you don't just put those signs of stress.
Speaker:You go get yourself, checked out.
Speaker:But stress, like I said, is not normal physiological condition
Speaker:and it ups your risk factors for all sorts of medical problems.
Speaker:The behavioral signs of, of withdrawal or increased emotional ability.
Speaker:So you might be angry very quickly or upset very quickly.
Speaker:You might get very defensive with people.
Speaker:You might turn to behaviors that just self-sooth or addictive behaviors which
Speaker:aren't particularly helpful to anybody.
Speaker:Then you've got the, the mental things that affects us as well like.
Speaker:not sleeping properly.
Speaker:And of course, if you have any red flag symptoms, please
Speaker:go get yourself checked out.
Speaker:These are low mood, these are thinking that life's just not worth
Speaker:it, feeling very hopeless about stuff, please, please, please see a
Speaker:medical professional if that's you.
Speaker:Another thing that I found helpful in recognizing when I'm getting
Speaker:stressed is what am I stopping doing?
Speaker:How have I given up seeing that friend?
Speaker:Or am I staying up really late doing lots of work rather than talking to my family?
Speaker:So one of the first things I ask people to do in our training.
Speaker:Um, to maintain their wellbeing is to think of that first thing
Speaker:that you give up that reenergizes you physically and or mentally.
Speaker:What's the first thing that you give up when you start to slip
Speaker:down that vortex of busy-ness?
Speaker:That is one of your early warning signs.
Speaker:And a quick wellbeing tip is that the first thing you need to see if your
Speaker:wellbeing is put that thing into your diary every single week so that you.
Speaker:At the very least aren't maintaining that one thing that, you know,
Speaker:you really, really need to do.
Speaker:And when you start to spot those early signs, then a really helpful thing
Speaker:is to plot it on the stress curve.
Speaker:Just print off the stress curve that we've given you, or just draw on it piece of
Speaker:paper and say, where am I at the moment?
Speaker:And put across where you think you are.
Speaker:You could also ask other people, where do you think I am at the moment?
Speaker:And side note, if you support anybody else, if you're a team leader or
Speaker:if you're a coach or a mentor, then you can use the stress curve to
Speaker:find out where other people are.
Speaker:Now, if you've rated yourself just past area two, just past peak
Speaker:performance, then you're probably further down than you think you are.
Speaker:And the question you could ask yourself is then what, what could I do to get
Speaker:myself back up that stress curve?
Speaker:What quick wins are there?
Speaker:Because there might be some really, really obvious things that you could
Speaker:see very quickly to get yourself up the stress curve and let me just give
Speaker:you permission now to do those things.
Speaker:Because there'll be all sorts of things stopping you.
Speaker:You might think I can't possibly because my colleagues will think
Speaker:I'm dumping them or this or that.
Speaker:But believe me, unless you do those things and get yourself back up the stress curve
Speaker:and out of the vortex, it will be much worse for everybody in the long term.
Speaker:So permission granted to do those quick wins, those things that you
Speaker:need to get yourself up the stress curve, back to peak performance.
Speaker:Because the signs and the symptoms of stress, they creep up on us.
Speaker:We think we've got all the time in the world to sorted out, but the further
Speaker:we go down the curve, the further we go into the vortex, the quicker
Speaker:it goes, the faster it gets worse.
Speaker:And soon you find yourself quite a long way down why it's much more of a struggle.
Speaker:It's a climb back up and so climb out of the vortex.
Speaker:So these small things that you can do right now are really, really important.
Speaker:They make a huge amount of difference.
Speaker:And finally, please get the help that you need.
Speaker:I know it's a bit of a cliche, but it's a very brave thing to ask for help.
Speaker:Because we've got this ridiculous idea that we should just be able to keep
Speaker:with anything that life throws at us.
Speaker:My life is so much better since asking for help and getting some therapy
Speaker:and reading my self-help books and trying to understand myself more and
Speaker:really maximizing on the self-care or as I call it necessary care.
Speaker:Because I know when I'm doing that, my performance will be so much better.
Speaker:And what does good performance mean?
Speaker:That means making an impact in the world, and pick out for help people
Speaker:in the way that I want to help people.
Speaker:So it's not self-indulgent.
Speaker:This is for that.
Speaker:This is for other people.
Speaker:And it makes me feel better as well.
Speaker:And I just enjoy life a lot better.
Speaker:So do what you can to access the help that you need.
Speaker:Get the resources that you need.
Speaker:Do some courses.
Speaker:Meet with some friends.
Speaker:Rates and good books.
Speaker:And we'll put some recommendations for things that, that, that have
Speaker:helped us in the CPD work book that goes with this episode.
Speaker:And if you won't see, we also have some courses that may help.
Speaker:We've got a short course called Get Your Life Back, which has
Speaker:helped when you were in overwhelm.
Speaker:We have our flagship Beat Stress and Thrive course.
Speaker:And of course, we've got the FrogXtra membership.
Speaker:So if you want to check this out, do you have look at the links in the show notes.
Speaker:So don't underestimate stress, don't underestimate overwhelm,
Speaker:and certainly don't underestimate how quickly burnout can happen.