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Welcome to Hip Hop Movie Club, the show

that harmonizes the rhythm of hip hop with

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the magic of movies.

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Today we're discussing State

Property, a violent 2002 crime film

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starring some early members of the

Roc-A-Fella Records conglomerate,

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including a small role by Jay-Z.

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We're three old heads who put their old

heads together to vibe on these films for

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you.

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I'm Dyno Wright, podcaster, filmmaker,

longtime hip hop fan, and my favorite part

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of DMX's video for What's My Name?

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is the two seconds that Jay-Z shows up in.

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I'm JB, 80s and 90s nostalgia junkie,

longtime hip-hop fan, and I rate Beanie

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Sigel's Rock the Mic among my top 100

hip-hop tracks of all time.

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I'm Boogie, a DJ, long time hip hop fan,

and I'm so excited.

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Because I just found a spot to repair and

calibrate my Technics 1200s, baby.

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I'm going back to vinyl.

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Yes.

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In this episode, we'll answer the

question, is State Property worth

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watching?

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And we'll give you five takeaways to make

you a smarter hip hop movie fan.

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Here are the five takeaways.

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Number one, the movie is violent and

brutal.

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Number two, there are copious amounts of

nudity and right from the jump.

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Number three, there's no real character

development or plot line for that matter.

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Number four, Jay-Z's talents are wasted in

this film as his role is brief.

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and consists mostly of mumbles.

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And number five, the soundtrack may be the

sole highlight of this film and just

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barely.

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All right, so you may be able to tell from

takeaways that this one has its issues.

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Boogie, I know you said you had seen this

one way back when it came out and really

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theme throughout is the brutality of it

all.

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You want to talk a bit about that?

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Yeah, so yeah, I remember when this movie

first came out and coincidentally, it was

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a part of my DVD collection.

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So it's definitely a violent movie.

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It takes place in Philadelphia and the

main character, Beans, is portrayed by

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Beanie Sigel and his right -hand man, Baby

Boy.

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And actually the whole crew is comprised

of members of State Property, the Philly

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group.

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minus Freeway and Peedii Crakk who were

legally predisposed from appearing in the

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film.

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We'll leave it at that.

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But it basically, Beans, he wants to

become like a drug kingpin because he's

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tired of being broke.

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And he gets his boys, his crew together

and they just basically start on a war

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path, if you will, to take over each

neighborhood of Philadelphia and

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surrounding areas to set up their empire.

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And along the way, they're, they just,

it's cold blooded.

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Whoever's in their way, if you don't get

down, you lay down and that's the mantra

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that they go by.

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And you see throughout this film, various

members of rival crews are basically just

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wiped out.

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And he's established his soldiers, if you

will, in those areas where people have

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worked for them.

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And then he starts.

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to build his empire and bring in more

money.

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But yeah, they start off, like I said,

taking out the rival crews.

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One guy, Futch, they, I mean, Beans just

brutally beat him with a bat and they just

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tossed him in a dumpster.

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I mean, even in the first scene of the

movie, Blizz,

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portrayed by Memphis Bleek just shoots

somebody in the strip club.

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And Blizz is basically the one who goes on

the war.

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He shoots a few people throughout the

movie.

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You know, Beans even, you know, takes out

violence on his own crew.

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You know, he shoots one of his guys E in

the hand because he talked back a little

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bit.

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And, you know, yeah, it's just a whole lot

of violence.

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I mean, you know, the violent shooting of

one of the...

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members who wouldn't, he actually wasn't

even a member of a crew.

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He was just kind of caught in the middle.

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It didn't respond quick enough.

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And you know, he was brutally shot about

five or six times.

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There's a shootout at a basketball game in

broad daylight, killing members of a rival

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crew.

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You know, People are getting robbed left

and right and in the robberies, they're

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not even getting spared, they're getting

killed.

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So if they're carrying drugs.

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They're killed, they're carrying money,

they're killed.

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And all of this is taken back to Beans to

feed his empire.

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Then we see some retaliation from another

crew where the boss of another crew played

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by Dame Dash actually kidnaps Beans'

girlfriend and her friend while at the

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club and executes the friend while Beans

is on the phone as a, you know.

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If you don't respond to what I'm asking

for, it was basically a ransom for his

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girlfriend.

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This is going to happen to her.

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Actually, his exact words were, she might

get sent back pregnant.

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And then, but still, it's just like, what?

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And I understand what was happening

because I have seen these type of things

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happen in other movies.

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But it was just the brutality of it all.

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We got to point it out.

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If you have a weak stomach for violence,

this is not your film.

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Yeah.

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Definitely, yeah.

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Brutal, brutally violent, senseless.

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I mean, all murders are senseless in my

opinion, but this was beyond senseless.

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It's kind of like, get down or lay down.

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I thought that was even like a lame

tagline.

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It's kind of like, so it's kind of like

equivalent to like, it's my way or the

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highway.

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Man, I had a lot of issues with this.

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Even Old head Futch

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Futch being beat to a pulp.

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It was just nasty, like stomach turning.

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And they just try to recruit the guys.

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If someone refuses to join them, they just

shoot and kill the young guy.

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That rival was named Butter.

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And I'm like, hey, Butter and Beans?

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Was that that boxer guy?

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I'm just kidding.

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Butter Beans.

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But I'd rather watch Butter Bean.

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Yeah, that was...

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have been more entertaining.

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It was rough.

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Dyno Wright, what are your initial

thoughts here about the violence and

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overall themes?

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there's using it to make a point and

there's just like, just dousing this with

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wanton violence for no reason.

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There wasn't much writing happening in

this movie, so sure, let's just have

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everybody get shot up.

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They didn't put much thought into this.

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It's like they didn't have any other

crayons they didn't have any other colors

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in their palette.

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Like, let's just shoot them.

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And you think with that much violence

happening for no reason, there wasn't like

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more repercussions.

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Like, you could just go around shooting

people and not suffer any consequences

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until like, you know, 80 minutes into the

film.

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real logical sense.

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None of this made any sense.

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What were you gonna say?

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a lot of surveillance was out there and

the proliferation of the cell phones with

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the cameras.

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So yeah, not realistic in today's day and

age, but yeah.

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that time.

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People just don't get shot up and nothing

happens.

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You wouldn't find out it was Beans after

all.

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Maybe, perhaps the police don't really

care that much about these lives, but

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someone in that world is gonna come after

Beans because it's not gonna be a big

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secret like who killed Futch?

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That happened in broad daylight.

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Yeah, there's DNA evidence all over the

place too.

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And if he's on the come up, there are

other established crews out there, like,

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whoa, this didn't attract anyone else's

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This movie should have lasted five

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I think how they show Dame and his crew,

the old heads, they show them and he's

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like, yeah, look at these guys.

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They're all just kind of sitting around,

they're laughing, they're joking,

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everything is all sweet and everything.

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Because basically they weren't even,

nobody was responding.

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You're right, you're right.

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If all of this was happening in the

streets, they should have probably proper

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somebody.

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caught somebody's attention like, hey,

look at what the heck is going on over

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there.

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Like not even just the police, but like

other crews would have been like, okay,

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like what's going on here?

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Maybe we need to like get ready or arm

ourselves and like nothing happened like

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that.

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thought into this.

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So like, figuring out like the

repercussions of their actions, like, they

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didn't even consider it.

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Why would they?

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This movie, like, didn't make any sense at

all anyhow.

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I remember like the late 80s and the 90s

when the crack first hit the streets and

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there was a lot of violence between crew

hoos because people were trying to make

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that quick money.

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But something would happen and like

immediately like the next day there would

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be retaliation.

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Like the war would last, like, you know,

like things would happen in the span of a

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few days.

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This was stretched out over a span of like

years and yeah.

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It wasn't...

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People's reactions weren't in sync.

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Something, yeah.

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shallowly written, written very shallow

and sure, anything goes.

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Sure.

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Climb to the top like real quick.

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like one big massacre that continued and

continued and continued.

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as a serial killer, but like, there was no

like attention paid to him.

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so another takeaway that you mentioned

that, or I, when we came up with was there

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are copious amounts of nudity and right

from the jump.

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So that's just kind of maybe PSA.

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If you're watching this, you might be

shocked to see that, or you might enjoy

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seeing that.

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yeah, exactly.

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But it's one of those things that's like,

Hey, we could do what we want with this

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film.

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So we're going to do a lot of violence and

we're going to do a lot of nudity and.

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was kind of like what they did.

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I don't know.

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Yeah, I mean, not that much more about

that.

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Definitely a lot of nudity as well.

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definitely one of those things where they

did it because they could, not because

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they should.

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it didn't really add to the plot line.

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No, it was just.

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way high expectation for a movie like

this.

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Things make sense?

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Things should serve a story?

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First you gotta have a story.

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No story here.

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A lot of frequenting the strip clubs and a

lot of random women just sitting around

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with no clothes on for no reason.

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the player's lifestyle that they wanted to

portray.

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The takeaway number three is there was not

any real character development or plot

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line.

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I know BooGie you did summarize kind of

what happened, but my big gripe with this

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was we don't really know about Bean's

upbringing or backstory.

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It's just like, hey, we wanna have the

American dream and we're just gonna take

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it into our own hands.

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our own hands.

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Are we supposed to like him?

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Are we supposed to root for him?

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I don't know.

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You know, I didn't really have a

connection with him either way.

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It's like, I don't know.

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It's like a lot of times with these crime

dramas, it's actually like a drama where

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it's like, man, he's doing some bad

things, but I can see where things went

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awry and he's kind of a good kid.

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And like, I hope that he...

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finds a way out of it somehow and comes to

a sense that in this case there was none

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of that.

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It was just like, this is a bad dude.

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He's doing bad things.

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Set It Off as a prime example of that.

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You can see why they were put in a

position they were in.

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Yeah, an actual good film.

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An actual, like, real story.

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Yeah, stuff was, you know, things were

stacked against them.

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Yeah, we just saw them in a strip club.

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He's like, I'm tired of being broke.

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Well, you're broke because you're in a

strip club.

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Like, what?

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No, the whole thing is just so...

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I read a review that it...

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it looked like they wrote this in a

weekend, like they put the whole thing

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together in a weekend.

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This is like the kind of things you do,

the shortcuts you take when you only do

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things over 48 hours.

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Yeah, it's like, you know, we signed a

group out of Philly called State Property.

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We're just gonna get them all together,

get them a script, and put them in a

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movie.

250

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It's gonna be like one long video with no

music.

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Yeah, I'm sure there are music videos.

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I'm sure there are music videos that are

more character development than this

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movie.

254

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Yeah, I mean, I'm at a loss.

255

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That was a good comparison Boogie with Set

It Off where we discussed it in depth.

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It's like they're doing horrible things

with these bank heists, but the system had

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oppressed them so much and they had

personal experience and we understand why

258

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it happened.

259

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And there's some situations where, you

know, there's, there's a child involved

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and they want to get the better life and

they felt that there was no other, this

261

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was just like, Hey,

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Let's do this.

263

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You know, I don't know what know what is.

264

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It's like, at the end, not to give it

away.

265

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It's like, they're going to remember my

name.

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It's like, okay, but like, did you leave

some sort of legacy that people should be

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proud of?

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Or you're just like another statistic

of...

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you know, misguided individual.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, the the only thing anybody

will remember is, like, this dude was

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crazy enough to have a shootout in a court

room.

273

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That was such a...

274

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That was such a...

275

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Where you gonna go?

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That was the rancid cherry on a rotted

icing of a sundae.

277

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Just like the dumbest thing that happened

in the dumbest movie I've ever seen.

278

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You realize you can't get out, right?

279

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You know, like the courthouse, there's

like an unlimited supply of police

280

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officers that's gonna come storming in.

281

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You can't get out.

282

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The only thing this movie needed was a

stunt double that was completely wrong

283

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age, like in Breakin' 2, and a mannequin

that falls down the stairs like in Breakin

284

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285

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That would have made it complete.

286

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You imagine like having like in the

shootout scene, see like a random white

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guy with cornrows run by.

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With blonde cornrows.

289

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That's not mean.

290

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as a comedy, I think.

291

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Yeah, like a Scooby -Doo episode where

they take a mask off Beanie Seagull and

292

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it's some 80 -year -old white dude.

293

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Like, wait.

294

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All right, now it's interesting.

295

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I would have gotten away with it too, with

a few damn rappers.

296

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man.

297

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man.

298

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So in the end, the assassin, so Dame

Dash's boss is the assassin, like shoots

299

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Beans, right?

300

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And so we see him like ostensibly dying on

that table, but then there's a State

301

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Property 2 and he lives.

302

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Like what?

303

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Yeah, so...

304

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Does he live in the second?

305

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Is he in the second one?

306

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But is it his ghost?

307

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What's going on here?

308

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in like, I think they were trying to say,

if I can remember correctly, that whole

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scenario with the shootout was in his head

and it didn't really happen.

310

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And he was sentenced to go to prison.

311

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it was a dream.

312

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He wake up like Bob Newhart next to

Suzanne Pleshette.

313

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And like, ah, it was just a dream.

314

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That's even better.

315

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Every movie should end with Bob Newhart

waking up next to Suzanne Pleshette.

316

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People our age barely know what that

means.

317

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The young people look up Bob Newhart and

Suzanne Pleshette.

318

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And even the assassin was a Roc-A-Fella

artist.

319

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That was Amil, who was part of the Roc

crew and never really got the shine like

320

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she should have, because she actually did

have some lyrics, but that's besides the

321

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point.

322

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What are you gonna do?

323

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We're not gonna put you in these songs,

we're gonna put you in a small cameo in

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this film.

325

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Yeah, you're going to be the assassin.

326

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me the assassin forget that you're a you

can rap we're gonna put you in a small

327

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film as an assassin

328

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Yeah, more misuse of talent.

329

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More wasted talent.

330

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segue into takeaway number four was

Jay-Z's talents were wasted in this film

331

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as his role was brief and consisted mostly

of mumbles.

332

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I didn't get that.

333

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I was like, ooh, Jay-Z, save this film.

334

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He didn't.

335

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Hmm?

336

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Hmm?

337

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He made a business decision, man.

338

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Not to do anything.

339

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Like, that's the thing.

340

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Like, There's no character development, so

you don't know why he mumbles.

341

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There's nothing.

342

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It's like, let's have him mumble.

343

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Sure.

344

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Okay.

345

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Whatever.

346

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Yeah.

347

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you can You can get a sense from the way

Dame consults him that they're at least at

348

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the same level and the crew or Jay might

be at a higher level, but he's not even

349

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paying attention to what Dame's Dame's

He's like, I think I need a a What?

350

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It was bizarre.

351

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It was kind of like, you're going to take

care of that, right?

352

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You're going to, you know, why don't you,

why don't you just like kidnap them?

353

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brilliant idea.

354

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Let me get, like, it was just like, what?

355

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I didn't get it.

356

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they didn't tell him the camera was

rolling.

357

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Just do what he's like.

358

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Yeah, just be yourself.

359

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What?

360

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I mean, Dame Dash, for a movie of this

quality, such as it is, I think he was

361

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trying.

362

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The only one who was trying.

363

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Yeah, he tried.

364

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Yeah

365

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is like he put up like double digit points

but in a game where the team scored like

366

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64 points and they got blown out like 140

to 60.

367

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I mean, that was rough.

368

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You have Jay-Z who is a deity in the

hip-hop world and his talents are wasted.

369

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Even back then, right?

370

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He was a megastar already.

371

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Yeah.

372

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I said they were definitely established.

373

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He was established back then, the label

was established and yeah.

374

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I did enjoy seeing Jacob the Jeweler.

375

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He needs his own movie.

376

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His life must be a whole movie.

377

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Hehehehe

378

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Yeah, there were a few cameos in the

movie.

379

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Jacob the jeweler.

380

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DJ Clue had a small cameo.

381

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He was informed, Dame that C-Zer was shot.

382

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I was like, yeah.

383

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And then finally, the soundtrack might be

the sole highlight of the film, but just

384

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barely because Roc the Mic, as I said in

my intro, that's a great song.

385

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And it's an opening scene with the strip

club and that's a great song.

386

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Other than that, Sparks was the artist on

a lot of the songs.

387

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It's not a really memorable soundtrack

except for Roc the Mic, in my opinion.

388

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Do you guys pick up anything else in the

soundtrack?

389

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I mean, I heard a couple of songs playing

in the movie that aren't on the

390

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soundtrack.

391

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I know there was a scene where Beans

rolled up to Butter's crew and informed

392

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one of the guys to have Butters get in

contact with him.

393

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And in that scene, I heard in the

background, Ola Hovito playing.

394

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And I was like, okay, yeah, that's my

song.

395

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But I'm like, that's not on the

soundtrack.

396

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Okay.

397

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then there was another instance when

Dame's crew was in the club and Aisha and

398

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the girls were in the club and Dame sent

the bottle over to them.

399

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The song Beanie was playing and I actually

do like that song.

400

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But yeah, that's not on the soundtrack

either.

401

00:22:10,708 --> 00:22:12,291

So I was like, huh, okay.

402

00:22:12,291 --> 00:22:13,916

Got a bunch of Spark joints.

403

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It's like a Spark vehicle.

404

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Everybody gets to eat tonight.

405

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State Property movie.

406

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I didn't even listen to the soundtrack.

407

00:22:25,916 --> 00:22:28,208

this movie wasn't worth my time as it was.

408

00:22:31,083 --> 00:22:38,666

Man, so speaking of like reviews, this got

literally zero percent on Rotten Tomatoes,

409

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which is hard to do.

410

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I was looking at some other films that got

zero percent.

411

00:22:46,833 --> 00:22:53,416

Return to the Blue Lagoon, like Police

Academy 6: City Under Siege.

412

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Derailed, One Missed Call.

413

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So many stuff that you never heard of

probably.

414

00:23:02,666 --> 00:23:05,625

Not familiar with Derailed or One Missed

Call.

415

00:23:05,916 --> 00:23:07,958

Yeah, there's a bunch of them.

416

00:23:09,166 --> 00:23:12,458

This made I Got the Hook Up look like

Saving Private Ryan.

417

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That's a good one.

418

00:23:15,541 --> 00:23:17,416

I mean this, oof.

419

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Yeah, the AV Club had a really great line

in their review.

420

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It said, in any given scene about half the

characters sport clothes from the rap

421

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mogul's Roca Wear line, making State

Property seem like the world's bloodiest

422

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infomercial.

423

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Nah.

424

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Yeah, they would definitely dipped out in

a rock Roca Wear gear.

425

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Definitely were.

426

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And I think I remember seeing other rival

people in different gear.

427

00:23:50,958 --> 00:23:54,375

I thought I saw Phat Farm and I thought I

saw Sean John.

428

00:23:54,375 --> 00:23:57,916

Maybe it was Phat Farm but I think that

wasn't an accident.

429

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They actually put some thought into that

instead of the actual plot or character

430

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development.

431

00:24:04,708 --> 00:24:06,000

Yeah.

432

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It's so funny.

433

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I remember back in the day, like I had, I

used to have like, I used to have State

434

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Property gear.

435

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Yeah.

436

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It was actually good quality stuff too.

437

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Like it was nice, but you know, it faded

with Roca Wear.

438

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Roca Wear started fading, State Property

fade.

439

00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:31,291

It might've faded before Roca Wear but

yeah, I had State Property gear.

440

00:24:32,041 --> 00:24:34,458

Like State Property, like hoodies and.

441

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sweat suits and t -shirts.

442

00:24:38,416 --> 00:24:42,250

The whole time I was, it kept reminding me

of Hot Property from Star Search.

443

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Remember Star Search?

444

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With Ed McMahon.

445

00:24:45,500 --> 00:24:48,166

I remember Star Search, the talent show.

446

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What was the hot property aspect of it?

447

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They're one of the acts that would

compete.

448

00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:59,916

Norm MacDonald has a great bit about Hot

Property.

449

00:25:01,208 --> 00:25:03,333

I'll put that in this episode description.

450

00:25:03,333 --> 00:25:03,958

It's so good.

451

00:25:03,958 --> 00:25:07,291

More old head stuff.

452

00:25:07,458 --> 00:25:08,833

First, we're talking about Bob Newhart.

453

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They were talking about Star Search with

Ed McMahon.

454

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it's more entertaining than this film.

455

00:25:16,416 --> 00:25:16,750

Yeah.

456

00:25:16,750 --> 00:25:17,250

Yeah.

457

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I don't know, remember I was...

458

00:25:19,083 --> 00:25:21,583

I had Malibu's Most Wanted as my least

favorite.

459

00:25:21,583 --> 00:25:23,833

This gives it...

460

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a run for its money.

461

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As my least favorite.

462

00:25:27,916 --> 00:25:29,041

Yeah.

463

00:25:29,833 --> 00:25:30,625

Yeah.

464

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reverse.

465

00:25:32,333 --> 00:25:36,666

The backside of Mount Rushmore like has to

be on this.

466

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Ha ha.

467

00:25:39,875 --> 00:25:40,791

The WOAT.

468

00:25:40,791 --> 00:25:42,333

W -O -A -T.

469

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You

470

00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:46,458

Alright.

471

00:25:49,916 --> 00:25:54,500

Well, any other tidbits anybody want to

add?

472

00:25:54,666 --> 00:25:57,958

I'm shocked that Beanie Sigel's jail time

didn't involve this movie.

473

00:25:57,958 --> 00:26:00,708

Like, he didn't get put in jail because of

this movie.

474

00:26:01,625 --> 00:26:05,291

Somehow he skated on this movie.

475

00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:06,291

That was rough.

476

00:26:06,291 --> 00:26:07,583

It was tough to watch.

477

00:26:07,583 --> 00:26:12,041

I watched it in two parts and I was like

wondering.

478

00:26:12,041 --> 00:26:15,166

I'm glad it was just a little over an hour

and a half, I think.

479

00:26:16,041 --> 00:26:17,375

Mercifully.

480

00:26:17,958 --> 00:26:20,375

I'm telling you, this movie should have

lasted five minutes.

481

00:26:20,958 --> 00:26:23,750

Yeah, let's give the ratings.

482

00:26:25,125 --> 00:26:31,333

Interested to hear your view BooGie since

you've seen it back and had enjoyed it

483

00:26:31,333 --> 00:26:33,375

more so when you first saw it.

484

00:26:33,375 --> 00:26:35,958

But what is your rating for State

Property?

485

00:26:35,958 --> 00:26:38,583

Bring that funky flick back or leave it in

the vault.

486

00:26:42,125 --> 00:26:47,583

So despite the fact that I enjoyed

watching this when I was younger, I'm

487

00:26:47,583 --> 00:26:49,333

going to leave it in the vault.

488

00:26:50,416 --> 00:26:51,833

Yeah.

489

00:26:54,208 --> 00:26:55,250

Right.

490

00:26:55,250 --> 00:26:59,875

Roc fanboy back in the day, but yeah, not

so much now.

491

00:26:59,875 --> 00:27:01,916

I can't overlook this one.

492

00:27:02,750 --> 00:27:06,166

Yeah, can't all be winners, I guess.

493

00:27:06,791 --> 00:27:07,375

That all right.

494

00:27:07,375 --> 00:27:12,333

I don't think I need to ask, but your

rating on State Property, bring that funky

495

00:27:12,333 --> 00:27:14,166

flick back or leave it in the vault.

496

00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:15,708

Leave it in the vault.

497

00:27:15,708 --> 00:27:17,875

Remember that horse in Ren and Stimpy?

498

00:27:17,875 --> 00:27:20,750

Who'd always come out and say, No sir, I

didn't like it.

499

00:27:20,750 --> 00:27:22,333

That was me.

500

00:27:24,750 --> 00:27:25,333

man.

501

00:27:25,333 --> 00:27:27,500

told Craig Sager to burn his suit?

502

00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:29,041

Like the clothes he was wearing right

then?

503

00:27:29,041 --> 00:27:30,458

Burn it?

504

00:27:30,791 --> 00:27:31,500

Not to wait?

505

00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:32,916

Just burn it?

506

00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,541

I think Kevin Garnett should come and tell

them to burn this movie.

507

00:27:37,541 --> 00:27:38,166

Just don't wait.

508

00:27:38,166 --> 00:27:39,708

Just burn this movie.

509

00:27:42,041 --> 00:27:42,916

man.

510

00:27:44,041 --> 00:27:46,416

I have this.

511

00:27:46,416 --> 00:27:50,000

Yeah, I have a similar similar feeling.

512

00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:52,041

Leave this one in the vault.

513

00:27:52,041 --> 00:27:55,541

State property should be landfill

property.

514

00:27:57,958 --> 00:27:59,250

Put it in landfill.

515

00:28:02,458 --> 00:28:04,666

But wait, there's more!

516

00:28:05,041 --> 00:28:07,666

State Property 2: Electric Boogaloo coming

soon.

517

00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:13,083

The fact that this got a sequel is beyond

me.

518

00:28:13,541 --> 00:28:20,125

Again, just because you could doesn't mean

you should Maybe the stunt double that's

519

00:28:20,125 --> 00:28:23,750

completely wrong and like the mannequin

falling down the stairs is in State

520

00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:24,208

Property 2.

521

00:28:24,208 --> 00:28:28,041

I look forward to that I'm hoping for that

522

00:28:28,375 --> 00:28:31,375

We ran random cameos from stunt guys.

523

00:28:31,541 --> 00:28:32,750

Hahaha.

524

00:28:32,916 --> 00:28:35,625

I would like Boogaloo Shrimp to show up in

this movie.

525

00:28:37,041 --> 00:28:40,041

Ricardo Montalban, maybe he could show up

in this movie.

526

00:28:40,083 --> 00:28:42,333

State Property 2: The Wrath of Khan.

527

00:28:42,458 --> 00:28:43,333

Heheheheh

528

00:28:43,333 --> 00:28:44,333

my god.

529

00:28:46,250 --> 00:28:48,500

Instead of putting those little things

that he put in the ears, he just put them

530

00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:50,250

in my eyes.

531

00:28:50,750 --> 00:28:52,208

Get over with.

532

00:28:54,083 --> 00:28:54,958

Hmm.

533

00:28:56,416 --> 00:28:57,208

man.

534

00:28:57,208 --> 00:29:00,041

What's worse than straight to video?

535

00:29:00,666 --> 00:29:03,375

Straight to the recycle bin?

536

00:29:03,708 --> 00:29:04,583

Yeah.

537

00:29:08,375 --> 00:29:09,833

Oof.

538

00:29:12,125 --> 00:29:14,458

There's so much better content out there.

539

00:29:14,458 --> 00:29:18,333

That's a lot of times my justification for

leaving in the vault.

540

00:29:18,375 --> 00:29:20,583

There's so much better content out there.

541

00:29:20,583 --> 00:29:22,250

Just find other.

542

00:29:22,250 --> 00:29:25,041

Yeah, life's too short to spend it

watching this movie.

543

00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,041

This is why we do this.

544

00:29:29,041 --> 00:29:30,750

This is like a public service.

545

00:29:30,791 --> 00:29:34,833

We watched this movie, so you didn't have

to, dear listener.

546

00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:36,375

Yeah.

547

00:29:37,041 --> 00:29:38,208

Uhhh...

548

00:29:39,666 --> 00:29:42,333

You still have the DVD, Boogie?

549

00:29:42,541 --> 00:29:48,833

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I do because I had a

whole, like, I don't know, to this day I

550

00:29:48,833 --> 00:29:52,291

still don't know why, but I like watching

crime movies.

551

00:29:52,291 --> 00:29:57,625

So I'm pretty sure I still have it in my

storage unit with the rest of my crime

552

00:29:57,625 --> 00:29:58,541

movies.

553

00:29:58,541 --> 00:30:01,250

Yeah, I mean there's a lot of crimes in

this movie.

554

00:30:01,250 --> 00:30:05,750

This movie itself is probably a crime, but

again, Beanie didn't do any jail time for

555

00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:06,083

it.

556

00:30:06,083 --> 00:30:15,958

Yeah, I had like this, New Jack City, King

of New York, Carlitos Way, Scarface, all

557

00:30:15,958 --> 00:30:17,291

those movies.

558

00:30:17,291 --> 00:30:17,875

I had a whole bunch.

559

00:30:17,875 --> 00:30:20,083

I have the full game.

560

00:30:20,083 --> 00:30:21,333

And then State Property.

561

00:30:21,333 --> 00:30:23,083

Yeah, with the classics.

562

00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:30,041

It's a masterpiece.

563

00:30:31,333 --> 00:30:33,208

You needed something to put your drink on.

564

00:30:37,208 --> 00:30:38,000

man.

565

00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,500

Hehehehe.

566

00:30:40,583 --> 00:30:46,750

Yeah, if you ever get a chance to see the

second one, it's got more holes in it than

567

00:30:46,750 --> 00:30:48,541

this one.

568

00:30:49,875 --> 00:30:52,541

You should just watch it to giggle.

569

00:30:53,375 --> 00:30:54,041

We should.

570

00:30:54,041 --> 00:30:58,500

How many times can we can we can we rank

on this movie?

571

00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:04,708

The second one has a lot of cameos in this

they got a bigger budget this movie didn't

572

00:31:04,708 --> 00:31:10,708

do too bad though because At the time like

this Roc was at the top of their game So

573

00:31:10,708 --> 00:31:12,083

people went to see it.

574

00:31:12,083 --> 00:31:13,541

We were watching it.

575

00:31:13,541 --> 00:31:17,833

He will got watched it just because of who

was in it You know

576

00:31:17,833 --> 00:31:18,375

that totally.

577

00:31:18,375 --> 00:31:19,416

I mean...

578

00:31:19,583 --> 00:31:21,458

You know, these guys are on tour.

579

00:31:21,458 --> 00:31:23,250

They got videos everywhere.

580

00:31:23,250 --> 00:31:26,500

They're on all the radio stations and in

the clubs.

581

00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:27,833

And then they put out a movie.

582

00:31:27,833 --> 00:31:31,083

That's how I got caught.

583

00:31:31,083 --> 00:31:32,708

I was a fan boy.

584

00:31:32,708 --> 00:31:33,125

Mm -hmm.

585

00:31:33,125 --> 00:31:35,625

your $12 like it was back in the day?

586

00:31:36,083 --> 00:31:36,458

Sure.

587

00:31:36,458 --> 00:31:38,916

Mindless is entertainment for 90 minutes.

588

00:31:38,916 --> 00:31:40,625

Emphasis on mindless.

589

00:31:42,250 --> 00:31:49,916

when you have the level of clout and Jay-Z

and it's his conglomerate, like he could

590

00:31:49,916 --> 00:31:53,833

take a dump, wrap it in foil and somebody

would buy it.

591

00:31:53,833 --> 00:31:55,916

That's kind of what this is.

592

00:31:57,041 --> 00:31:57,833

man.

593

00:31:57,833 --> 00:31:59,375

Pretty much.

594

00:32:00,666 --> 00:32:04,500

Yeah, it was not a cinematic triumph.

595

00:32:06,375 --> 00:32:08,708

and not worth most people's time.

596

00:32:11,166 --> 00:32:13,166

I'm opposed to watching the sequel.

597

00:32:13,166 --> 00:32:13,875

I don't know.

598

00:32:13,875 --> 00:32:15,208

It's torturous.

599

00:32:18,083 --> 00:32:20,041

man, how low can you go?

600

00:32:20,208 --> 00:32:30,791

more likely stretch the meaning of hip-hop

movie to include the likes of like Pee

601

00:32:30,791 --> 00:32:32,541

Wee's Big Adventure or something.

602

00:32:34,375 --> 00:32:36,708

There's gotta be some link to hip-hop.

603

00:32:36,708 --> 00:32:37,583

Let's watch that.

604

00:32:37,583 --> 00:32:39,125

a song called The Pee-Wee Herman.

605

00:32:39,125 --> 00:32:40,291

Yeah, see, there we go.

606

00:32:40,291 --> 00:32:40,708

a Pee Wee Herman.

607

00:32:40,708 --> 00:32:41,291

There we go.

608

00:32:41,291 --> 00:32:41,583

Right.

609

00:32:41,583 --> 00:32:42,708

Do the Pee Wee Herman.

610

00:32:42,708 --> 00:32:44,125

Yeah, exactly.

611

00:32:44,750 --> 00:32:46,000

Yeah.

612

00:32:46,875 --> 00:32:49,166

That's a tie in, right?

613

00:32:49,166 --> 00:32:53,541

Not that that version was in the film, but

yeah, I'm just using as example.

614

00:32:53,541 --> 00:32:54,166

Like.

615

00:32:56,125 --> 00:33:04,125

Yeah, no, I mean, maybe we won't, but boy,

boy, this was, this was something.

616

00:33:06,875 --> 00:33:07,833

Yeah.

617

00:33:10,541 --> 00:33:15,791

Hip Hop Movie Club is produced by your

HHMC's JB, Boogie, and Dyno Wright.

618

00:33:15,791 --> 00:33:17,666

Theme music by Boogie.

619

00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,666

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620

00:33:21,666 --> 00:33:22,291

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621

00:33:22,291 --> 00:33:24,208

It's a real power up for us.

622

00:33:24,208 --> 00:33:25,666

Thanks for tuning in.

623

00:33:26,958 --> 00:33:30,791

And remember, don't hate, concentrate.

624

00:33:33,041 --> 00:33:38,250

focus on higher quality film.

625

00:33:38,625 --> 00:33:40,208

past this movie.

626

00:33:40,208 --> 00:33:41,041

yeah.

627

00:33:41,458 --> 00:33:44,208

Focus on something other than what we just

talked about.

628

00:33:44,208 --> 00:33:45,333

That's right.

629

00:33:48,333 --> 00:33:49,625

Sad trumpet.

630

00:33:51,291 --> 00:33:52,958

totally Womp Womp.

631

00:33:54,458 --> 00:33:56,416

man, God bless the Roc.

632

00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,791

He's a business man.

633

00:34:02,333 --> 00:34:03,166

man.

634

00:34:04,125 --> 00:34:07,541

I wonder if Jay-Z has any regrets about

the film.

635

00:34:07,541 --> 00:34:10,041

I mean, yeah.

636

00:34:10,750 --> 00:34:12,541

I mean, I guess people gotta start

somewhere.

637

00:34:12,541 --> 00:34:16,791

I mean, who knew by then, who knew then he

was gonna be a billionaire?

638

00:34:18,125 --> 00:34:20,791

from a have not to a have got.

639

00:34:21,291 --> 00:34:22,791

I kinda like that.

640

00:34:22,791 --> 00:34:26,500

That was kinda clever, like, that should

have been someone's lyric, right?

641

00:34:27,958 --> 00:34:35,416

One of the, actually, he did have a line

in a movie that I did hear in one of his

642

00:34:35,416 --> 00:34:36,291

lyrics.

643

00:34:36,291 --> 00:34:39,916

He said, the streets is not only watching,

but they're talking now.

644

00:34:39,916 --> 00:34:41,916

That's in...

645

00:34:43,666 --> 00:34:46,041

It's in a Roc La Familia album.

646

00:34:46,208 --> 00:34:48,750

But I can't remember which song it is

though.

647

00:34:48,750 --> 00:34:52,083

But Beanie Sigel will come on at the end

and he says that he starts off with that.

648

00:34:52,083 --> 00:34:54,208

I'm like, hey, I know that line.

649

00:34:54,875 --> 00:34:58,333

It was easy for him because he already did

it.

650

00:34:59,666 --> 00:35:05,083

Yeah, when you're stage name is Beanie

Sigel and then they make a movie and they

651

00:35:05,083 --> 00:35:09,333

call you Beans in the movie, that tells

you how much work they put into this.

652

00:35:09,333 --> 00:35:10,833

Hahaha.

653

00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,166

I mean, let's just call them Beans.

654

00:35:15,791 --> 00:35:17,750

Let's show some range here.

655

00:35:18,375 --> 00:35:19,500

beans.

656

00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:23,208

Woof.

657

00:35:24,541 --> 00:35:28,541

And I said it was based on, this was based

on true events.

658

00:35:28,541 --> 00:35:31,416

So then I went back and I was looking at

like Beanie Sigel's history.

659

00:35:31,416 --> 00:35:33,916

I was like, I hope this wasn't his full

story.

660

00:35:33,916 --> 00:35:35,458

It's not, I don't know.

661

00:35:35,458 --> 00:35:38,125

Jones and the Junior Black Mafia.

662

00:35:39,208 --> 00:35:42,833

Yeah, that's about it.

663

00:35:42,958 --> 00:35:48,666

I can't imagine that that story had to be

much better than this one.