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Speaker AHello and welcome to another episode of Home Education Matters.
Speaker AAnd today we are talking about geography.
Speaker AAnd geography is the podcast I've put off doing because I'm very prejudiced against geography.
Speaker AI put it all down to my school experience because geography was taught by the headmistress of my school.
Speaker AAnd I remember that we were forced to memorize the population of China, which was 3, comma, 0, 9, comma, something, something, something.
Speaker AIt was like 3 million.
Speaker AAnd I remember thinking at the time, at age 14, this gotta be changing by the day.
Speaker AThis is the most pointless thing I've ever had to do.
Speaker AAnyway, we are doing geography.
Speaker AI'm overcoming my prejudices.
Speaker AAnd I'm joined again by Jake from Humanities Learning.
Speaker AI'm very pleased to have Jake here Cause I know he's a bit of a geography expert and I'm hoping he will counterbalance my prejud geography.
Speaker ASo, Jake, thank you so much for joining us again on the podcast.
Speaker BAh, thank you for having me.
Speaker BLovely to see you.
Speaker BAnd it's a good example of ridiculous geography that.
Speaker BI mean only that this year there's been a study out saying that they may have grossly underestimated world population.
Speaker BIt might be at 12 billion rather than 8.
Speaker BSo if that's the case, China's got.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd no one could ever possibly count all the humans.
Speaker BIt's far too difficult.
Speaker AIt's a bit like home education, isn't it?
Speaker AYou know, when they ask for home education figures and every time they say home education figures, I think, nah.
Speaker AAnd it's a bit the same with people, isn't it?
Speaker AHow could we possibly count the amount of people on the planet?
Speaker ALike, that's just crazy business, isn't it?
Speaker ALet's talk then about geography.
Speaker AWe're talking specifically, really about secondary geography.
Speaker AAnd when I say secondary level, I'm really talking about gcse.
Speaker ABecause my theory, as everybody knows who listens to the podcast, is it's kind of irrelevant what you do until you get to gcse, because you can just play around around and enjoy the subject and, you know, make beautiful little models of the water cycle.
Speaker AAnd that's all wonderful, but when you get to gcse, there's certain things you need to know, right?
Speaker BYeah, that's right.
Speaker BAnd there's quite a sort of a good choice for GCSE geography out there.
Speaker BI personally teach the IGCSE because it's far easier with remote students.
Speaker BSo the IGCSE means that you don't have to do sort of formal field work and get it all signed off, which is very useful when you've got students in different countries or just spread around the uk.
Speaker ASo is the GCSE geography, is that, is that really hard for home educators to do?
Speaker AIs there a practical component?
Speaker BYeah, there's a practical component.
Speaker BI have taught it with one to one students, but you've kind of got to make a portfolio where you take lots of photos and you gather lots of data and you put it all together and it's signed off by your tutorial, which is very good.
Speaker BBut you know, like I say, when you've got one kid in Ghana and another one in Australia, it's not practical.
Speaker BSo most home educators would go for the IGCSE where you still do the practicals, but you're just tested on those practicals in the exam rather than needing that portfolio.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AAnd so to all intents and purposes it sounds like IGCSE for home educators is the most straightforward choice when it comes to exam centres and being able to self study.
Speaker AOkay, so you talked about the igcse.
Speaker ANow I know for a fact that there are, there's Cambridge IGCSE and then there's edexcel igcse.
Speaker AAnd I think you do the edxligcse, don't you?
Speaker BYeah, that's correct.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker AI think that is extremely sensible.
Speaker AAs somebody that has attempted to put their child through the Cambridge Geography igcse, I can say that that is partly also responsible for my prejudice against geography because, yeah, we were doing Cambridge History, so I thought, okay, well let's do Cambridge Geography.
Speaker AAnd it turned out that that was a mistake.
Speaker AActually turns out they' Cambridge History was a mistake as well.
Speaker ASo there you are.
Speaker AChalk that one up to experience.
Speaker ABut the Cambridge Geography syllabus for IDCSE is really different to the edexcel geography syllabus.
Speaker AAnd geography is one of those weird topics, isn't it, where you can have quite a disparity between exam boards?
Speaker BYes, I think it's because of the breadth of the subject.
Speaker BIt's like history in many ways.
Speaker BThere's so many different units that you could choose and do.
Speaker BSo I mean, even within the same exam board, you know, I teach a certain set of units, but another teacher might choose a completely different set of units and they'd still get the same qualification at the end, but will have learned entirely different stuff.
Speaker AAh, so it is like history or classical civilization in that you can choose.
Speaker AYou like kind of cherry pick the units that you get Examined in.
Speaker BYeah, that's right.
Speaker BAnd so for.
Speaker BFor me, I teach rivers and hazardous environments and urban environments and economic activity and energy and fragile environments.
Speaker BBut I could do a different suite completely, which is nice, because it means that I can sort of go with what I think my strengths are or what I'm more interested in.
Speaker BKind of like you.
Speaker BI was put off by geography at school by having to do a very long, boring coasts unit about longshore drift.
Speaker BAnd although it's really interesting now, I'm still slightly scarred by that.
Speaker BSo I do rivers instead of coast.
Speaker AI had this.
Speaker AI had a similar experience with history at school, where I was forced to do the Industrial Revolution.
Speaker AAnd I remember learning about spinning jennies for about three years and it was like.
Speaker AAnd now for history, you can.
Speaker AYeah, you can choose World War II and really fun stuff.
Speaker AAnd it's like, I got spinning jennies and you get Stalin.
Speaker AThat seems unfair.
Speaker AAnyway, so for the geography, actually, that seems a really good thing.
Speaker ANow I think about it out loud.
Speaker ABut for the geography, you say that there's a lot of units.
Speaker ASo how many units are there and how many do you choose for Edexcel?
Speaker BSo for Edexcel, there's, I think, 10 possible units and you teach five of them.
Speaker AAny compulsory?
Speaker BI believe the only compulsory one is the economic activity and energy.
Speaker BI think that one's compulsory.
Speaker BBut then you can.
Speaker BThen on top of those 10 units, you've then got field work to do, and that field work is connected to whichever other units you do.
Speaker BSo I do rivers and then a rivers field work section, and I do urban environments and an urban fieldwork section.
Speaker BBut you could, if you lived near a volcano, you could do hazardous environments.
Speaker BAnd not great for the uk, because we don't really have any hazardous environments.
Speaker BNo earthquakes, no volcanoes, no chance of a tropical storm.
Speaker BBut that's the truly international part of it.
Speaker BYou know, if we were in Italy or somewhere, it'd be fantastic to do that.
Speaker ASo when it comes to fieldwork, how does that get examined?
Speaker AIs it like science igcse, where you have to know, you have to study it in order to answer questions in the exam about it?
Speaker BThat's right, yes.
Speaker BAnd what I do is, each year we actually go and do fieldwork.
Speaker BSo most of my students will come and do field work with me.
Speaker BWe do that in and around Derby.
Speaker BBut if there's a student who cannot do that or hasn't, for whatever reason, they can just sort of say, this is what I did on my imaginary field trip.
Speaker BSo we do all the theory.
Speaker BAnd we sort of learn the best way to answer the exam questions as if they had done it.
Speaker BBut it is nice because I had a kid in Ghana who would do his fieldwork for rivers in a river with hippos in it.
Speaker BAnd then they can talk back to students in the UK who don't have a hippo.
Speaker BSo it keeps things exciting, I suppose, but it's quite flexible like that.
Speaker AOkay, so the field work you offer, like a residential almost, for the field.
Speaker BWork, where people are not quite a residential.
Speaker BWe just do a day trip.
Speaker BSo we.
Speaker BBecause I do rivers and urban.
Speaker BSo we go to Derby, we spend the morning in the city center.
Speaker BThe students will go out and they'll question the local population with their questionnaires, which they're always utterly terrified of until they start doing it and realize that actually, if you've got a lanyard and a clipboard, people tend to answer your questions and be quite nice.
Speaker BEspecially if you're young, maybe not so much if you're older.
Speaker BAnd then once we've done all the sort of civilized stuff in the city, we move to a park where there's a nice river.
Speaker BWe get in the river and measure sediment and water speed and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker BSo we can do it all in that one day, which is quite nice.
Speaker AHow important do you think it is for geography to have that practical element?
Speaker AI mean, I'm thinking of science where science is one of those.
Speaker AWhere it's really nice, isn't it, to do the experiments?
Speaker AIs geography a bit the same way?
Speaker AIt's like it makes a difference to your learning if you're able to get out there and do this stuff.
Speaker BIt definitely does, I think, possibly slightly differently from science, though.
Speaker BThe wonderful thing about science is you do the experiment and it works the way it should, assuming you do the experiment correctly.
Speaker AWhereas my science experience, I have to say, where almost all my experiments went wrong.
Speaker ABut, yeah, clearly you are better at science than me.
Speaker BBut with geography, it's the opposite.
Speaker BYou, you know, you learn all this stuff in the textbook about how a river behaves and what a population in an urban center will be like.
Speaker BAnd then you actually talk to them and you actually measure the river and it doesn't fit.
Speaker BSo that's.
Speaker BIt's kind of a good lesson that, you know, maybe you shouldn't just trust the textbook on everything.
Speaker BAnd maybe the particular population that you question have some very different views than the textbook suggests they might.
Speaker BWhich is good.
Speaker AThat is good.
Speaker AAnd it sounds like it's well suited to home educators, who, in my experience, home educated children love proving things wrong.
Speaker ASo when it comes, when it comes to textbooks, my prejudices against geography are that the textbooks are exceptionally dull.
Speaker ACertainly the Cambridge one was like, oh, dear God, don't make me read this book now.
Speaker AWhat's Edexcel like?
Speaker AIs that any better?
Speaker AOr are geography textbooks just a bit of a nightmare?
Speaker BThe Edexcel textbook has been updated recently and they've gone from something that was quite boring to something that's way more boring.
Speaker BI don't know how they've managed it.
Speaker ABrilliant promotion.
Speaker BThey've sort of made it just loads of dense paragraphs.
Speaker BI mean, the joy of geography is the using the examples.
Speaker BSo you can take anything from the textbook and then you can find really exciting examples for it, either the extremes or sometimes the opposites.
Speaker BI mean, it struggles, like most GCSEs, I suppose, to keep up with our changing world, because everything's changing all the time.
Speaker BSo still within the syllabus we learn about population increase and the dangers of population increase, but we don't look at the dangers of population decline, which in much of the world is actually going to be a more direct problem.
Speaker BBut then as a teacher, you can bring that in and do the comparisons and talk about, well, why is that population decline may well happen as well as population increase, and then you can connect the two together and there's always 101 different exciting examples for even the most boring thing.
Speaker BSo it is what the teacher does with it, I think.
Speaker BAnd those examples that you find, and often the best examples are not ones that I found at all, it's the ones that students bring with them.
Speaker BThey've seen this weird documentary on YouTube or they've read this weird book and then they've got their own examples.
Speaker AI can imagine that would help a lot if you have teenagers in a group who are bringing their own examples of things.
Speaker AI know that when I was doing the Cambridge Geography, one of the reasons we stopped it, apart from the sheer unadulterated boredom, one of the reasons we stopped it was the amount of case studies that we were forced to memorize.
Speaker AIt was very case study heavy and you had to memorize case studies, you couldn't just, I don't know, know them.
Speaker AYou had to, like, actually memorise lots of facts about the case studies and it was just a lot of memorising.
Speaker AIs that the case for Edexcel?
Speaker AIs it?
Speaker AYou mentioned about examples.
Speaker AI'm guessing you mean case studies.
Speaker BYeah, examples more generally.
Speaker BBut also there are Case studies.
Speaker BBut one of the reasons I like the Edexcel one is that at no point will they ask you to give precise facts and figures and numbers.
Speaker BThe textbook.
Speaker BThis is where it is good.
Speaker BIt will give you a case study for everything you need.
Speaker BAnd instead of saying in the exam, you know, you have studied China, answer this question about China.
Speaker BIt will always say, you've studied a developing or developed or emerging country, tell me which one you'd like to talk about and then tell me about that.
Speaker BSo you can keep it simple and do the ones in the textbook and kind of use those as your examples.
Speaker BOr you can go completely off piste and decide, well, for my developing country, I'll do Botswana instead of Nepal or whatever they've decided.
Speaker BSo it's totally open, like for that.
Speaker BWhich is good, because you've got, again, students all over the place.
Speaker BThey can write about the countries that they're in or the countries they've visited in.
Speaker BAnd it doesn't have to be the group learns specific things about specific countries.
Speaker BWe're never going to need to know the population of China to the decimal point, which is good.
Speaker BSo that keeps it nice and flexible.
Speaker BBut the case studies are still a thing.
Speaker BThey're definitely still part of it.
Speaker BIt's just there's much more flexibility in what country you actually choose to talk about.
Speaker AI know that there's always two things I get asked by parents when it comes to which exam subject they choose.
Speaker AOne is how much maths is in there and one is how much writing is in there.
Speaker ASo I'm guessing there' not a lot of maths in geography, am I right?
Speaker BNo, there'll be a tiny bit within the fieldwork section, so they'll give you some data and they'll say, you know, find the average of this data or something like that.
Speaker BBut it's across the entire gcse, it's about four or five marks.
Speaker AThat's always reassuring.
Speaker ABut for the essay writing, what are we talking here?
Speaker AIs it like history, where you have like 10, 12 mark questions you need to answer and you need to know the kind of vague structure and how to answer it?
Speaker AOr is it.
Speaker AYou're nodding.
Speaker AIs that what we're looking at for geography?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BSo it's for the Edexcel at least.
Speaker BEach section of the 5, 6, 7 sections you do is sort of rounded off with an essay at the end.
Speaker BThe vast majority of them are worth eight marks.
Speaker BAnd it's really straightforward point evidence.
Speaker BExplain.
Speaker BWhat they do is they give you figures, so that could be a photograph, or it could be a bar chart or a pie chart or something.
Speaker BAnd they'll say, explain how this helps you understand whatever the topic is.
Speaker BAnd so it's a simple case of making a point, referring to the figure I see in the figure, a man with a fruit or whatever it might be.
Speaker BAnd this tells me that.
Speaker BAnd so in terms of complexity of essays, it's nowhere near history, where in my experience with history, you have to learn a different sort of essay structure for each of the different types of questions.
Speaker BWith this one, if you know the eight mark structure, you can do any eight mark question.
Speaker BSo it's there.
Speaker BIt's a really good sort of stepping or first step for students who are maybe a bit unsure or a bit frightened by essays because it's very formulaic, it builds their confidence.
Speaker BSo often students will do geography and then maybe progress on to do history.
Speaker BIt's not really progression really, but to them it feels like it is.
Speaker BIn terms of writing, it's a progression from one to the next.
Speaker BSo it's there, but it's manageable.
Speaker BAnd all the rest of the marks are made up of much shorter questions where you're far more direct.
Speaker BSo name this thing or explain this concept.
Speaker AFor the essay sections, the evidence bit, the point, evidence, explain is that when you need to bring in your own knowledge of certain facts and figures.
Speaker AI know you said that Edexcel doesn't really need you to know that much, but is that where you would need to know, for example, that in Mexico there's an aging population because the birth rate is X and Y?
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BSo you would just need to use the data they give you.
Speaker BSo the essays are much more sort of general knowledge.
Speaker BI mean, it's great if you can put in your own examples and things, that definitely wows the examiner, but you can do perfectly well without that just by literally using the images they give you.
Speaker BWhere the case studies come in would be shorter questions.
Speaker BThey would say, give me the country you want to talk about and then have a four mark question about it.
Speaker BGive two ways in which they reduce energy usage in your chosen country, or two reasons waste disposal is a problem in your country and you're completely open to choose what country you want.
Speaker BSo that doesn't really come into the essays.
Speaker ASo it's a little bit more like environmental management in that way, in that a lot of the information that you need is on the paper and you're just kind of disseminating the information and analyzing the information.
Speaker BYes, yes.
Speaker BSo all of the Eight mark questions.
Speaker BThey start with the word analyze.
Speaker BSo yeah, it's perfect.
Speaker BIt's just pure analysis which is good.
Speaker AEnvironmental management is such a beautiful classic starter GCSE for home educators, but it's unusual in schools.
Speaker AIs there much of an overlap?
Speaker ALike if you do em, does it help you do geography or are they really very discreet subjects?
Speaker AWhat do you think when it comes to the, the, you know, the complementing of the two of them?
Speaker BYeah, they do complement well.
Speaker BI think environmental management first and then geography is a good order to do it in.
Speaker BBut I think the biggest, biggest difference is environmental management is wide.
Speaker BSo there's a lot of different things to know but none of them in massive detail.
Speaker BWhereas geography is zoomed in on just a few different topics and then you really get deeper into them.
Speaker BSo there is crossover.
Speaker BBut it's like geography deepens the knowledge of EM or deepens your understanding of em.
Speaker BI suppose students do sometimes go geography and then em and that helps a lot because they find the EM sections that they've covered in geography.
Speaker BThey sort of over know they know more than they need and then they can spend more time focusing on the other units that they're not so familiar with.
Speaker BYou know, it's a bit of an easier journey through the environmental management then.
Speaker BSo doing it in either way is good.
Speaker BI've also had students who do them simultaneously and that's pretty good.
Speaker BExcept there's one thing that always annoys me.
Speaker BAccording to the environmental management syllabus, an Ocean must be 60 meters deep to form a tropical storm.
Speaker BBut according to the geography syllabus it needs to be 50 meters deep.
Speaker BSo there you are.
Speaker BThey just have different ideas, but there's very few of those sort of weird conflicts.
Speaker BMost of it is in line with each other.
Speaker AThe objective truth of knowledge that nobody cares about.
Speaker ASo who is geography a good exam for?
Speaker ALike, is there other particular skills or interests or passions or things that you think would be a good fit for a home educated child for geography?
Speaker BThat's a good question.
Speaker BIt seems to sort of appeal to a wide range of students for some reason.
Speaker BIt's particularly popular with like sporty in inverted commas with my fingers there with the sporty crowd.
Speaker BI'm not sure why that is.
Speaker BI don't know if it's just because it's more physical and the ideas are more physical and concrete or it might just be a completely random thing that, you know, a lot of sporty kids are in my geography classes, but there seems to be something, it's very Practical.
Speaker BWhat I don't get is much crossover between students who take geography and students who take religion or philosophy.
Speaker BThat seems to be two different ends of the student experience.
Speaker BSo it's definitely much more concrete, closer to science, I guess.
Speaker BNot that I've ever taught science, but I imagine it's a similar sort of crowd there.
Speaker AYeah, it sounds like it's drifting more towards maybe the science end of the spectrum because you're called humanities, your company and so you do the humanities.
Speaker AGeography must be the furthest outreach for you.
Speaker AIs it?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BI'm a philosophy and religion is my sort of the way my brain works best.
Speaker BSo I'm more sort of naturally suited to that.
Speaker BBut then I love the geography and then I can bring in all the human things, all the human elements to that because of course, everything's connected.
Speaker BIt's the study of humans.
Speaker BAnd it's always interesting.
Speaker BYou'll get some of.
Speaker BBecause the IGCSE exam is split into two sections.
Speaker BYou've got your physical geography as your first exam and then your human geography is the second exam.
Speaker BAnd that's, you know, some students will love paper one and they won't like paper two so much.
Speaker BAnd then some students will be the opposite.
Speaker BIt really does trigger two different sides of your scope, I suppose.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThe students who sort of get on better with paper one are the more scientific ones because it's much more.
Speaker BLearn the process, explain the process.
Speaker BThe process is always right.
Speaker BAnd then it's far more subjective on the human geography side.
Speaker AHow long are the two papers?
Speaker BPaper one is an hour and 10 minutes and paper two is an hour and 45.
Speaker ASo they're manageable time.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BNeither of them are particularly horrendous.
Speaker BI think geography paper 1 is the shortest paper that I teach for anything.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BHour and 10 is pretty, pretty nippy.
Speaker BThey're in there and out there before they've really realized what's going on.
Speaker AMy son had a one hour exam for Cambridge History.
Speaker AIt was the.
Speaker AThe paper four, which is the optional, if you're not doing the coursework one.
Speaker AAnd it's literally you choose one essay question and write for an hour on it.
Speaker AAnd it was like, whoa.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd apparently it's very, very hard to get good marks on because all the teachers complain and all the private school teachers who do it, they like moan all the time about it.
Speaker AAnyway, okay, so it was interesting you were talking there about philosophy and religion because it got me thinking about how in those kind of subjects in history, classical civilization, that kind of Thing, there's a certain nuance, there's a kind of gray zone that isn't really existing in geography.
Speaker ABut how much is there a chance for those children that like a bit of ethics, that like a bit of disagree, do you agree or disagree?
Speaker AThat kind of, that kind of slightly give my opinion stuff.
Speaker AIs there much of that in geography?
Speaker BThere is.
Speaker BSo mostly in paper two.
Speaker BPaper one you can always find some.
Speaker BYou know, the classic one is all rivers behave in this way.
Speaker BYou know, they will flow to the sea.
Speaker BAnd then someone will always point out that the Mekong doesn't.
Speaker BSometimes it flows backwards.
Speaker BSo there's always some, but it's not really open for discussion.
Speaker BBut paper two, there's a lot.
Speaker BSo there is.
Speaker BThe only other essay in the whole Exam is a 12 marker in paper 2, which will always be about something to do with deforestation or global warming or desertification.
Speaker BSo something to do with humans and the environment.
Speaker BAnd you'll be given a statement like we should chop down all the trees or global warming is a myth.
Speaker BAnd then you've got to argue both sides.
Speaker BIt's exactly the same as a 12 mark question in religious studies.
Speaker BYou have the structure back forth, back forth, give a conclusion.
Speaker BSo that really does open up to discussion.
Speaker BBut again you sort of get that breakdown between the class.
Speaker BThere's half the class who just want to stick with the paper one stuff and do what's concrete and then you've got the other who are much more happy to be arguing the point.
Speaker BYeah, there's definitely room for all different types of brains in there, which is good.
Speaker AThat's good.
Speaker AOkay, so for those people that love their geography and have SAT their GCSE and then want to do A level or briefly, what are the A level options when it comes to geography for home educated students?
Speaker ABecause obviously that is limiting, isn't it?
Speaker BSo this is less on my experience because I've never taught geography at A level.
Speaker BSo there you go.
Speaker BYou know, you've got your standard A levels out there.
Speaker BYou've also got your.
Speaker BYou can go and do environmental science, which is very popular, or you can even go off and do sort of more specific things like geology, which I don't know many people that have done geology, but it's definitely an option.
Speaker BDoors to lots of things.
Speaker BVery useful if you want to go off and study marine biology or marine science at A level as well.
Speaker BSo it's very useful for opening up avenues into lots of subjects.
Speaker BYou don't have to sort of just do geography, GCSE and then geography, A level.
Speaker BI know that it's quite a popular one with the military.
Speaker BThey like their intake to have a A level or even a degree in geography because that shows that they can find their way around and find places on a map.
Speaker BYeah, that's it.
Speaker BSo there's definitely, you know, you can go into a whole load of different pathways with it.
Speaker BYou don't have to join the guillotry, of course, that would be weird.
Speaker BBut in terms of the actual what A levels are out there on off a photographer, I don't really know.
Speaker BI've never really looked into it.
Speaker AWhen it comes to the spectrum of GCSEs in my mind, as someone who's put their children through lots of them, I kind of place them all on a little spectrum for how easy they are.
Speaker ANow, obviously, bear in mind that obviously some children will find maths insanely easy, other children will find maths very, very difficult.
Speaker ABut generally, you know, I've got at one end things like travel and tourism, environmental management as nice, easy, accessible, you don't need to memorize too much, you don't need to write very long essays.
Speaker AThe mass is really manageable.
Speaker AThen at the other end of the spectrum I've got things like history, which is very, very content heavy.
Speaker AI've got also got things like.
Speaker AWhich is controversial, but I've also got things like religious studies, which takes a kind of brain that is able to deal with back and forth and nuance and hold different arguments in its head.
Speaker ABut then obviously things like further maths or whatever it's called at GCSE I can't even remember.
Speaker ASo you know those kind of things.
Speaker AWhere would you place geography?
Speaker ABear in mind obviously that all children have different skill sets.
Speaker AWhereabouts would you place geography on that spectrum?
Speaker BI think geography is actually.
Speaker BIt might be bang in the middle.
Speaker BI agree with you that environmental management, marine science are really nice GCSEs to get started in.
Speaker BThere's some technical stuff in there.
Speaker BThere's a bit more maths than geography, which will put some students off.
Speaker BBut then there's no sort of large essay writing to do at all.
Speaker BSo in a sort of literacy sense, I agree that those are sort of on the easier side of things, with history and RS being at the other end.
Speaker BBut I think geography is nice in the middle because you've got.
Speaker BIt's kind of like there's a little bit of everything.
Speaker BYou've got your essays, you've got your shorter answers, you've got a bit of maths, you've got a bit of analysis of sources.
Speaker BIt's not quite the same as history source analysis, but it's, you know, good stepping stone there.
Speaker BSo I think it's a nice, all rounded gcse.
Speaker BIt doesn't, you know, RS is brilliant if you can write very quickly and you've got lots of different, you know, you've got that kind of mind that likes to balance things and question things, whereas geography, it's great if you can do a bit of that, but there's also a bit of this.
Speaker BSo I think it's a really nice, well, well rounded one, probably towards the easier end of the spectrum, but it's certainly not easy.
Speaker BI don't think any of them are, but, you know.
Speaker BYeah, in terms of gcse, it's definitely towards that end.
Speaker AI think I can safely say that travel and tourism is very easy.
Speaker AAs someone whose daughter has sat it, I can safely say that it's right there at the end of the spectrum.
Speaker AYeah, that's my tip.
Speaker AFor anyone who wants a really easy PCSE for geography, is it the case that you need to use particular kind of language terminology, keywords?
Speaker AIs it one of those where you really do have to get your lingo right?
Speaker BYes, very much so, for two reasons.
Speaker BFirstly, they don't sort of sugarcoat the questions.
Speaker BSo if there's a question that asks you about the discharge of a river, for example, if you don't know what that is, you're not even going to be able to start answering the thing.
Speaker BSo it's important that you understand all the keywords so that you can access the questions in the first place.
Speaker BBut it also, if, and this is similar to others like environmental management, marine science, you can save a lot of time and get the marks much more efficiently if you use a keyword.
Speaker BSo you either use the keyword or you write two sentences describing the keyword, which means you're going to run out of time in an exam.
Speaker BSo for all my students, I do keyword glossaries, so they can do flashcards or whatever and get them drummed into their heads.
Speaker BDefinitely a lot more of that in paper one than paper two.
Speaker BSo with the physical geography, you need to know all the different forms of erosion in a river, but also all the forms of weathering and transportation.
Speaker BAnd so you've got.
Speaker BYou end up with these siloed little lists of keywords that you've got to be able to fit in.
Speaker BIn paper two, it's nowhere near as bad.
Speaker BIt's more sort of general theory that you need to learn.
Speaker BBut there is still a dollop of keywords in there.
Speaker BSo, yeah, keywords are important.
Speaker BThat's the short answer to that one.
Speaker AI seem to recall.
Speaker AMy daughter started doing geography with you and I know that she did the water cycle and in actual fact, I want to thank you for that because that was the first unit I think we did.
Speaker AAnd she ended up writing a gay love story based on the water cycle.
Speaker AFrom your.
Speaker AShe didn't do the job for gcse, but she wrote this amazing gay love story.
Speaker AI was like, that, I'm taking that for the win.
Speaker ABut when it came to the water cycle, there were specific things like precipitation and things that you needed to know that word.
Speaker AAre there questions in the exam like these very short two mark questions like in re religious studies or whatever, where you, where you're asked, what does precipitation mean?
Speaker AFor example?
Speaker AAre there that kind of.
Speaker AIs it.
Speaker ADo you have that?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo you'd have one mark questions that would literally give you a keyword and say, what does that mean?
Speaker BAnd then you'd have two, two mark questions, usually where they say something like describe one transfer in the water cycle.
Speaker BSo you might talk then about precipitation.
Speaker BSo you name it and describe it to get two marks.
Speaker BSo it is.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSome of the questions are directly keyword based.
Speaker BThe essays, the keywords are going to save you time and they're going to help you sound more geography.
Speaker BSo you're probably going to get better marks.
Speaker BBut you could potentially, if you wrote fast, you could sort of ramble your way through that without hitting too many keywords.
Speaker BThere's no spelling, punctuation or grammar marks for geography.
Speaker BIt's one of those that.
Speaker BBecause in lots of subjects like history rrs, you get awarded extra marks for using key terminology from a sort of literacy point of view.
Speaker BBut that doesn't happen in geography.
Speaker BIt's more about accessing the actual question.
Speaker AOkay, that's good to know.
Speaker AI know that when I used to do my examining for religious studies, I loved children that used keywords because it meant that I could just scan my eyes down and then tick off the keywords and then they got there.
Speaker AEveryone's a winner.
Speaker ASo before I ask you about the resources, your sort of recommended resources for geography, I want to ask you for edexcel geography, what are your top tips for a student that wants to A pass?
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd then a student A wants to pass get a 4, student B wants to get a 9.
Speaker AWhat are your, what are your tips for each of them?
Speaker BOkay, so for our student aiming at 11, a grade four, I think probably the most important thing would be to know your keywords and the focus would be less on losing sleep over how to do an essay, but to be able to identify the word, explain what it means, you'll be fine.
Speaker BToo many students, and I think this is common in lots of exams, especially classical civilization as well, they stress and they go and they spend all their time working on the essay structure and then they forget to actually learn the content.
Speaker BI think for a student aiming for a 4 or 5, get those keywords down and you can't really go far wrong if you just sort of remember them and how they're used.
Speaker BWhereas for somebody going for a grade nine, that's where you really need to be.
Speaker BNot just understanding the keywords, but making connections.
Speaker BSo being able to say this is a process in the water cycle and this is affecting potential flood risk in this way, or this is what's happening with human demography and the fact there's more people is going to lead to maybe increased pollution and that's going to lead to this problem and sort of connecting those things together.
Speaker BAnd that would mainly be happening in the essay questions, which, assuming that they know their keywords and they've got all the basic information down, that's the difference between a sort of seven, eight and a nine is being able to really bring those things together.
Speaker AYeah, that makes sense.
Speaker ASo they're able to kind of analyze it and make and see patterns and be able to explain the impacts of those things.
Speaker BYeah, that's it.
Speaker AOkay, so what about then, some ideas for resources for geography?
Speaker AI know that when back in the day, and I don't even know if they still do this.
Speaker AMemrise used to do lots of courses, not just the ones they did.
Speaker APeople could upload their own course and there were loads for things like keywords for different exam syllabi.
Speaker AI don't know if that's still the case, but I remember I found that very helpful with my children.
Speaker AWhat are any resources that you would recommend?
Speaker AYouTube channels, podcasts, anything at all like that.
Speaker ABooks even?
Speaker BWell, I suppose one of my favorite things, it's quite old school, but it's still really useful, is make your own keyword glossary, make your own flashcards, even if you never actually use them.
Speaker BJust sitting there and working through the glossary and writing them out and hopefully thinking about them works very, very well.
Speaker BSo you can kind of do that with the textbook, because they usually have glossaries in them anyway.
Speaker BBut to go wider than that, I Mean, there's nothing really that beats David Attenborough.
Speaker BStill, that's pretty useful stuff.
Speaker BThere's lots of wonderful documentaries out there about volcanic eruptions or earthquakes.
Speaker BThe news helps with.
Speaker BWe've just had Hurricane Miranda and I literally was teaching about that this week because it's happening now and it fits with the syllabus and so that's brilliant.
Speaker BYou can find keyword, key, case studies.
Speaker BSorry, all over the place.
Speaker BI know that there are some very good sort of geography revision guides, things out there, not really for the IGCSE specifically, though.
Speaker BSo just be aware that if you're going to use CGP books or whatever they are, you're probably using one for a GCSE syllabus.
Speaker BThe content will still be useful, but might not be structured in the same way or sort of presented in the same order that you might be.
Speaker AMight have gaps as well, right?
Speaker BYes, there might be some gaps in there, Things that aren't covered.
Speaker BSo they're definitely useful.
Speaker BBut, yeah, just use with caution, I suppose.
Speaker BIn terms of podcasts, I don't.
Speaker BI'm a terrible binger of history podcasts.
Speaker BBut not geography, I'm afraid.
Speaker BI'm sure there must be some amazing ones out there.
Speaker AI know history has really amazing YouTube channels designated Mr.
Speaker ASales.
Speaker ADoes history, or is that English?
Speaker AI can't remember.
Speaker ABut there's.
Speaker AThere's quite a.
Speaker AThere's quite a few.
Speaker AI just can't remember the name of any of them because it's years now since my son did history.
Speaker ABut there's some really nice history YouTube channels.
Speaker AAre there any geography YouTube channels that you can think of?
Speaker BNot that I've explored.
Speaker BNow, that's not to say they don't exist, but in my experience, if I'm ever trying to sort of show a video about the formation of something or something else, I usually end up with some American thing with nice cartoony graphics.
Speaker BBut, yeah, I'd like to think there's some nice things out there and that I'm just not aware of them, hopefully.
Speaker BProbably because I'm just a bit too stuck in my ways.
Speaker BAnd so I've got all my own little bits and pieces that I show the students.
Speaker BBut, yeah, you could do it, especially if you were learning it at home, not within a classroom environment.
Speaker BYou've got the freedom to go and look at so many different things.
Speaker BI've had students who have.
Speaker BWe've mentioned a case study and they've gone away and written eight pages because they've been on a deep dive and they've watched the documentary and it's just something about it has captured them and they just want to know more.
Speaker BSo you can really, if you're doing it individually, your student or child can take it in so many different directions, hopefully build a real passion for it.
Speaker AI know that you won't mind me saying this because I know that you're very over subscribed and have like a waiting list and then your courses sell out like in a day.
Speaker ASo yeah, I know you won't mind me saying this, but geography is also very easy to self study, isn't it?
Speaker AIt's quite a straightforward exams, self study.
Speaker BYeah, I mean like any.
Speaker BI think all the exams are good to self study if you've got a real passion for it.
Speaker BI mean there are definitely some that are easy, others I think geography is easier than say history, because history, I think at least at some point you need to talk to a tutor about exactly what the examiners are looking for because they don't always make it obvious.
Speaker BBut in geography it is pretty straightforward.
Speaker BYou know, the mark schemes are written in a way that you can understand.
Speaker BSo if you are self studying, you can look at a mock exam, look at the mark scheme that goes with it.
Speaker BIt's all logical, which sometimes in history it just doesn't seem to be.
Speaker BSee, I think it's a really good one to study on your own or in a small group because when it comes to doing the field work, I've worked with small groups of three or four who will live in the same area and so we can go to their local city or their local river or their local coast and do the field work that's sort of very specific to them and that they understand, that they're familiar with.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker AYeah, and make it relevant to them.
Speaker AThat's really nice.
Speaker ASo while you're here, I can't let you go without asking you to let us know how things are going with the new GCSEs.
Speaker AI know that marine science has come out.
Speaker AHas it gone through its first exam?
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BSo, yeah, marine science we're now in.
Speaker BCause they do two sets a year.
Speaker BSo we're now on exam cycle four, I think.
Speaker BAnd that's.
Speaker BYeah, that's gone very well.
Speaker BStudents are always really engaged with it.
Speaker BIt's got some wonderful.
Speaker BIt's got a surprising breadth to it.
Speaker BIt's sort of broken down.
Speaker BIt's got your physics unit, your chemistry unit, your biology units, your human interaction units and you get to look at everything from how oceans work to all the weird Freaky little creatures that live in it.
Speaker BAnd the students.
Speaker BThere's a lot of that when you can just learn about golf reels or bobbit worms or whatever.
Speaker BYeah, so that.
Speaker BThat one's gone very well.
Speaker BIt's very similar to environmental management in format.
Speaker BIf you.
Speaker BIf you used to one, you could easily do the other without too much crossover.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BCie.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BSo, yeah, the format isn't.
Speaker BThe formatting is identical.
Speaker BEnvironmental management is just about to go through some changes.
Speaker BThere's a new syllabus for 2017 examination.
Speaker BSo I'm sort of bringing my last cohort through this current one, and then that will be updating.
Speaker BI've tried not to look at that too much because I'm afraid that I'll start teaching stuff for the new syllabus with the current students.
Speaker BBut, you know, at some point I'll be able to go through and overhaul the whole thing.
Speaker AWe may have to bring you or Damien from Earthlings back on then when they change that, that syllabus, because otherwise my podcast will be out of date for that one.
Speaker AWhat about Natural history?
Speaker ABecause that's.
Speaker AI know that's been in the pipeline a while.
Speaker AIs that still looking like it's going.
Speaker BTo launch with the new Labour government?
Speaker BIt looked for a minute that it wasn't going to, so I think it was nearly ready.
Speaker BAnd then since the election, it was definitely put on the back burner.
Speaker BI have heard rumors that they're going to bring it back, but it swallows Schrodinger's causes.
Speaker BIt could be alive.
Speaker BIt might not be.
Speaker BUntil someone looks inside the head of Keir Starmer, we won't know.
Speaker AWhy did they not want to have a natural history exam?
Speaker AIs that some sort of labor policy that I've missed out on?
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BI think that I. I think originally it was, you know, we're not going to bring anything through until we've fully examined it and got our committee to form another committee.
Speaker BI don't know who knows what's going on, but hopefully, I mean, the details that were out for it looked really, really interesting.
Speaker BAnd I think from what I can gather, a lot of the work's been done.
Speaker BIt felt like it was just about to be pushed out the gate and then was stopped.
Speaker BSo I can't see any reason why it shouldn't come forward.
Speaker BUnless, of course, the whole thing was just filled with Tory policy and that's why the paper covers dinosaurs.
Speaker ADinosaurs.
Speaker ASo is there anything else on the horizon when it comes to humanities subjects?
Speaker AThat we need to know about.
Speaker AYou mentioned about em having a.
Speaker AAn overhaul.
Speaker AIs there anything else we need to know about with humanities subject as you're Mr.
Speaker ALiterally, Mr. Humanities?
Speaker BNot as far as I know.
Speaker BNothing that I've been made aware of.
Speaker BSo that doesn't mean there's not.
Speaker BBecause I may just be slightly ignorant.
Speaker BBut no, all of the rest are just sort of business as usual.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo I think we're safe for now.
Speaker AAll right, well, that is great to know.
Speaker ASo all of Jake's links will be in the show notes, but I'm sure everyone listening knows how to find him.
Speaker AIt's humanities learning, and if you want to get onto one of his courses, I recommend you do it very, very, very quickly.
Speaker ABecause they go crap.
Speaker BThey do.
Speaker BThey fill up very quickly, which is lovely.
Speaker BI always think one day we'll do the bookings and everyone will have disappeared.
Speaker BBut so far, so good.
Speaker BIt's all good.
Speaker AIt's because you're doing a very good job at what you offer to home educators.
Speaker AYou're a sterling example of how to provide a really good service to home educators, and we thank you for it.
Speaker AOkay, Jake, thank you so much for coming on the podcast.
Speaker AIt's lovely to have you on again.
Speaker AAnd maybe at some point we'll get you back on for a religious stud, because even though I'm actually a religious studies teacher by background, I've never done a podcast on that one, so.
Speaker BOh, there you go.
Speaker BYeah, that would be like, the opposite of this one.
Speaker BFantastic.
Speaker AThanks so much, Jake.
Speaker AIt was lovely to talk to you again.
Speaker BThank you very much.
Speaker AThank you so much for joining us for today's Home Education Matters podcast.
Speaker ASee you at the next one.
Speaker AHave a lovely day.
Speaker BSam.