1 00:00:04,521 --> 00:00:08,361 Eddie: Welcome to episode 35 of the web joy podcast. 2 00:00:08,721 --> 00:00:09,921 I'm your host Eddie. 3 00:00:10,311 --> 00:00:14,211 And in this podcast, we interview guests about their origin story 4 00:00:14,451 --> 00:00:16,071 and what makes them excited. 5 00:00:16,371 --> 00:00:19,671 And joyful to be part of the tech community. 6 00:00:20,091 --> 00:00:24,141 I hope you enjoy today's episode hitting the go live button. 7 00:00:24,861 --> 00:00:25,641 I was shaking. 8 00:00:26,001 --> 00:00:26,751 With melody. 9 00:00:29,767 --> 00:00:33,547 During this episode, melody and I will talk about anxiety. 10 00:00:34,087 --> 00:00:36,457 And her relief from anxiety. 11 00:00:36,937 --> 00:00:40,717 I'd like to add a disclaimer that this is not medical advice, and there are 12 00:00:40,717 --> 00:00:44,467 some types of anxieties that you should make sure that you are working with. 13 00:00:44,797 --> 00:00:45,967 A trained professional. 14 00:00:46,297 --> 00:00:48,607 And potentially take medications. 15 00:00:49,017 --> 00:00:50,187 This is not advice. 16 00:00:50,397 --> 00:00:53,307 We are just simply sharing Melody's experience. 17 00:00:53,727 --> 00:00:54,897 Thank you for understanding. 18 00:00:56,786 --> 00:00:59,816 Welcome to the next episode of Web Joy. 19 00:00:59,906 --> 00:01:02,516 I'm excited to have Melody here with us today. 20 00:01:02,786 --> 00:01:04,346 Melody, say hi to the 21 00:01:04,346 --> 00:01:04,796 Melody: listeners. 22 00:01:05,276 --> 00:01:06,776 Hi listeners, 23 00:01:08,036 --> 00:01:11,426 . Eddie: Well, melody is great to have you on the podcast. 24 00:01:11,756 --> 00:01:15,926 Um, if you don't mind, I guess just kind of introduce yourself to everyone 25 00:01:15,926 --> 00:01:20,396 listening, kind of who you are, what you do, where you're kind of at on 26 00:01:20,396 --> 00:01:21,956 your journey, you know, just the 27 00:01:21,956 --> 00:01:22,526 Melody: basics. 28 00:01:22,881 --> 00:01:23,631 Hi, melody. 29 00:01:23,691 --> 00:01:24,651 Hello everyone. 30 00:01:25,011 --> 00:01:30,621 I currently right now am learning JavaScript and going into React, 31 00:01:30,621 --> 00:01:34,551 so I'm still, still fairly new on my learning journey. 32 00:01:34,971 --> 00:01:37,641 I initially wanted to get into tech. 33 00:01:37,886 --> 00:01:40,946 Because my husband is actually a software engineer. 34 00:01:41,006 --> 00:01:41,396 Awesome. 35 00:01:41,636 --> 00:01:43,106 Yeah, so that's pretty cool. 36 00:01:43,106 --> 00:01:46,736 He kind of has some insight for me, but I initially started in 37 00:01:46,916 --> 00:01:48,956 human and animal healthcare. 38 00:01:48,956 --> 00:01:53,786 I've done both veterinary assisting and I've worked as like an E K 39 00:01:53,786 --> 00:01:55,466 G tech and in a dental office. 40 00:01:55,466 --> 00:01:56,606 So I've done both. 41 00:01:56,606 --> 00:02:03,116 And while I really enjoyed it at the same time, it was pretty long hours. 42 00:02:03,116 --> 00:02:07,171 Sometimes I would go like, 13, 14 hour days. 43 00:02:07,251 --> 00:02:07,671 Wow. 44 00:02:07,801 --> 00:02:08,221 Yeah. 45 00:02:08,221 --> 00:02:10,171 And so it was really exhausting. 46 00:02:10,171 --> 00:02:15,601 And you know, once Covid happened, I feel like everyone kind of did like a rehaul 47 00:02:15,601 --> 00:02:17,131 of what they were doing with their life. 48 00:02:17,191 --> 00:02:20,881 And so while everything was on a halt, I was kind of like, okay, 49 00:02:20,886 --> 00:02:23,041 so what do I really wanna do? 50 00:02:23,041 --> 00:02:27,421 It gave me some time to think and I would see my husband just like, you know, 51 00:02:27,421 --> 00:02:31,351 having this great work-life balance, was able to still work from home. 52 00:02:31,681 --> 00:02:33,061 And so I was kind of looking at him. 53 00:02:33,716 --> 00:02:35,116 That looks pretty nice. 54 00:02:35,116 --> 00:02:36,916 I, I kinda wanna do that. 55 00:02:37,246 --> 00:02:40,096 So then he shows me what he does in a day, and I'm looking at the code 56 00:02:40,096 --> 00:02:41,656 and I'm like, that's gibberish. 57 00:02:41,716 --> 00:02:44,386 There's no way . I have no idea what he's writing. 58 00:02:44,476 --> 00:02:45,766 I'll never be able to do this. 59 00:02:46,096 --> 00:02:47,776 He was like, no, trust me. 60 00:02:48,016 --> 00:02:48,736 Give it a try. 61 00:02:49,336 --> 00:02:50,386 You can do it. 62 00:02:50,386 --> 00:02:55,036 So through his, his pushing me, I was like, okay, fine, I'll try it. 63 00:02:55,366 --> 00:02:59,086 And once I kind of did a couple little tutorials, I was like, 64 00:02:59,086 --> 00:03:00,976 obsessed, it's so much fun. 65 00:03:01,066 --> 00:03:02,986 And I was like, okay, yes, we're doing it. 66 00:03:03,016 --> 00:03:03,766 We're going there. 67 00:03:03,766 --> 00:03:04,186 We're doing it. 68 00:03:04,716 --> 00:03:09,486 So that's kind of how I took the leap to get started, pretty 69 00:03:09,486 --> 00:03:09,906 Eddie: much. 70 00:03:09,996 --> 00:03:10,716 That's great. 71 00:03:11,136 --> 00:03:15,216 So you kind of thought, Hey, you know, I'm working these long hours. 72 00:03:15,216 --> 00:03:16,836 I don't have as much work life balance. 73 00:03:16,836 --> 00:03:18,186 This seems interesting. 74 00:03:18,186 --> 00:03:21,186 You got kind of cut your teeth on a couple of tutorials and says, 75 00:03:21,186 --> 00:03:22,896 yeah, I, I'd like to do this. 76 00:03:23,316 --> 00:03:26,196 How did you actually go about learning? 77 00:03:26,286 --> 00:03:30,456 Like, what did you kind of, how did you decide what resources to do? 78 00:03:30,456 --> 00:03:31,596 How did you decide? 79 00:03:31,776 --> 00:03:33,366 Did you watch stuff online? 80 00:03:33,366 --> 00:03:34,506 Did you read stuff online? 81 00:03:34,506 --> 00:03:35,466 Have you done anything? 82 00:03:35,951 --> 00:03:40,001 In person or in online groups or whatever, what has that journey looked 83 00:03:40,001 --> 00:03:40,541 Melody: like for you? 84 00:03:40,841 --> 00:03:45,851 So initially I started off doing just a couple quick little, like free 85 00:03:45,851 --> 00:03:50,291 code camp and code academy, you know, stuff like that just to kind of get 86 00:03:50,291 --> 00:03:55,561 my feet wet because I was debating on doing a bootcamp, but I was like, 87 00:03:56,271 --> 00:03:58,221 Do I wanna spend all the money? 88 00:03:58,341 --> 00:04:00,021 Do I really wanna do that? 89 00:04:00,321 --> 00:04:04,221 And so, as I was kind of debating and figuring out if I was gonna 90 00:04:04,221 --> 00:04:09,231 take that leap or not, I stumbled across, um, learn with Leon on Twitch 91 00:04:09,591 --> 00:04:12,231 and the hundred devs community. 92 00:04:12,261 --> 00:04:18,411 And pretty much he was doing an online coding bootcamp for full. 93 00:04:19,286 --> 00:04:21,236 Web development for free. 94 00:04:21,476 --> 00:04:26,546 He was teaching everything online on Twitch for free , and I was like, oh, 95 00:04:26,816 --> 00:04:29,096 okay, well let me, let me try this. 96 00:04:29,096 --> 00:04:34,436 So I kind of watched his Twitch and he was like in the middle of one of his classes, 97 00:04:34,436 --> 00:04:36,296 so I didn't really know what was going on. 98 00:04:36,356 --> 00:04:37,856 I was like, I don't know what's happening. 99 00:04:37,916 --> 00:04:40,946 But he has an amazing teaching style. 100 00:04:41,096 --> 00:04:42,596 He's super charismatic. 101 00:04:42,596 --> 00:04:47,066 So it made me interested to wanna actually start from the beginning and learn more. 102 00:04:47,476 --> 00:04:51,106 So that's kind of what propelled me into going into hundred devs 103 00:04:51,106 --> 00:04:52,876 was kind of like my real start. 104 00:04:52,966 --> 00:04:58,096 And then from there I just picked up on some different tutorials and you know, 105 00:04:58,096 --> 00:05:00,856 she codes I am currently doing as well. 106 00:05:01,276 --> 00:05:03,156 It's kind of like when you're self-taught, you kind of. 107 00:05:03,631 --> 00:05:07,621 Pick through all sorts of different resources and like mash 'em 108 00:05:07,621 --> 00:05:11,851 together to create your own learning journey, which is like amazing. 109 00:05:12,121 --> 00:05:13,831 It's like the plus and the downside, right? 110 00:05:13,831 --> 00:05:16,561 Because if you go to a bootcamp, I feel like it's more structured out. 111 00:05:16,771 --> 00:05:19,651 Or if you're like self-taught, you're just grabbing any resource. 112 00:05:19,651 --> 00:05:21,061 Like, oh, this seems interesting. 113 00:05:21,121 --> 00:05:22,141 Oh, this is interesting. 114 00:05:22,141 --> 00:05:22,831 So yeah. 115 00:05:23,011 --> 00:05:26,431 But initially he was kind of like the anchor and the 116 00:05:26,431 --> 00:05:28,411 focal point for me starting. 117 00:05:28,956 --> 00:05:32,556 Eddie: Yeah, I think, like you said, being self-taught is interesting. 118 00:05:32,736 --> 00:05:35,106 I think there's so many more resources, nowaday. 119 00:05:35,871 --> 00:05:39,891 It's easier to get into tech, but at the same time, yeah, 120 00:05:39,921 --> 00:05:42,921 there's so many resources, like I think it can be intimidating. 121 00:05:43,161 --> 00:05:43,341 Mm-hmm. 122 00:05:43,671 --> 00:05:47,241 , I went to college for a little while and dropped out, but I learned 123 00:05:47,241 --> 00:05:51,171 programming before I went to college and continued learning after. 124 00:05:51,171 --> 00:05:54,051 So I'm pretty much self-taught even though I have like had 125 00:05:54,051 --> 00:05:55,491 some computer science courses. 126 00:05:56,091 --> 00:06:00,291 And, but like back when I was learning, it's literally like, okay, you're 127 00:06:00,291 --> 00:06:05,361 either reading documentation, you know, some random tutorials, or you're 128 00:06:05,366 --> 00:06:07,491 getting a computer book , right? 129 00:06:07,491 --> 00:06:12,141 There were, you know, there were not all of these great YouTube videos or online 130 00:06:12,141 --> 00:06:14,121 cohorts of people getting together. 131 00:06:14,481 --> 00:06:17,541 There was definitely a lot less options, but it was also like, if you can't 132 00:06:17,541 --> 00:06:19,961 learn in these couple of ways, then you. 133 00:06:20,351 --> 00:06:21,431 You can't learn it. 134 00:06:21,611 --> 00:06:24,281 So it's encouraging to see like all the different options, but it's 135 00:06:24,281 --> 00:06:28,601 also helpful, I feel like, to hear what options people have gone with. 136 00:06:28,601 --> 00:06:31,841 Because when someone's starting out, it's just like they don't 137 00:06:31,841 --> 00:06:33,191 know what to choose, you know? 138 00:06:33,196 --> 00:06:34,271 So I love mm-hmm. 139 00:06:34,631 --> 00:06:35,741 , I love what you did, right? 140 00:06:35,746 --> 00:06:37,991 You kind of tipped your toes in the water, right? 141 00:06:37,991 --> 00:06:38,381 You. 142 00:06:38,636 --> 00:06:41,786 Said, oh, I'm gonna try some tutorials and I'm gonna kind of 143 00:06:41,786 --> 00:06:43,016 check things out and that's good. 144 00:06:43,016 --> 00:06:47,126 So now I'm gonna learn a little bit of basics with free code Camp Code Academy. 145 00:06:47,336 --> 00:06:49,616 And then you're like, all right, I'm willing to like kind of 146 00:06:49,616 --> 00:06:50,996 get into a community, right? 147 00:06:50,996 --> 00:06:54,086 And follow a hundred devs and all of that stuff. 148 00:06:54,086 --> 00:06:58,256 So that, I love that kind of, Slow immersion into it and 149 00:06:58,256 --> 00:07:01,406 you kind of validated that you wanted to proceed rather than 150 00:07:01,406 --> 00:07:03,116 just jumping right into the deep 151 00:07:03,116 --> 00:07:03,326 Melody: end. 152 00:07:03,536 --> 00:07:03,896 Right. 153 00:07:03,896 --> 00:07:07,796 Which I am known to do , so this was definitely, I was 154 00:07:07,796 --> 00:07:09,446 like, okay, let me not do that. 155 00:07:09,656 --> 00:07:13,526 Let me actually take my time instead of, you know, just immediately 156 00:07:13,531 --> 00:07:17,726 signing up for a bootcamp that they are expensive and they're great. 157 00:07:17,726 --> 00:07:21,716 You know, I've seen many people have a amazing career after doing 158 00:07:21,716 --> 00:07:27,006 a bootcamp, but I was just like, okay, . Can I do this on my own first? 159 00:07:27,006 --> 00:07:28,356 Do I even like this? 160 00:07:28,356 --> 00:07:31,176 Let's, let's figure that out first before I proceed. 161 00:07:31,176 --> 00:07:31,776 So yeah, 162 00:07:32,586 --> 00:07:32,856 . Eddie: Nice. 163 00:07:32,856 --> 00:07:33,666 That's awesome. 164 00:07:33,996 --> 00:07:36,186 One of the things that we do in this podcast is we talk 165 00:07:36,186 --> 00:07:37,626 about what brings you joy. 166 00:07:37,716 --> 00:07:40,686 And so I was just kind of curious what brings you joy 167 00:07:40,686 --> 00:07:41,736 that you'd like to talk about? 168 00:07:41,916 --> 00:07:42,126 I'd 169 00:07:42,126 --> 00:07:45,096 Melody: say definitely, um, you know, kind of where we left off, 170 00:07:45,096 --> 00:07:47,196 I was doing a hundred devs and. 171 00:07:47,886 --> 00:07:51,516 When I initially started, I kind of wanted to really push 172 00:07:51,516 --> 00:07:53,946 myself out of my comfort zone. 173 00:07:54,006 --> 00:07:59,286 Um, I have pretty, well, I've had pretty severe, like anxiety, especially like 174 00:07:59,286 --> 00:08:02,656 social anxiety, and so talking to people. 175 00:08:03,641 --> 00:08:06,371 Even just like on Zoom settings or anything was always 176 00:08:06,371 --> 00:08:08,201 really, really hard for me. 177 00:08:08,351 --> 00:08:09,521 Very nerve wracking. 178 00:08:09,551 --> 00:08:14,051 And so I was like, okay, since I'm already completely restarting my career, 179 00:08:14,171 --> 00:08:19,151 let's take it another step and just go ahead and learn everything in public. 180 00:08:19,461 --> 00:08:23,811 Which sounded absolutely insane, but I was like, you know what? 181 00:08:23,991 --> 00:08:24,861 We're doing this. 182 00:08:24,861 --> 00:08:29,541 Like if I had the nerve to be able to completely change my career at this 183 00:08:29,546 --> 00:08:33,681 point, I might as well go all the way and try to tackle my anxiety as well. 184 00:08:33,681 --> 00:08:35,421 Cause why not at this point? 185 00:08:35,781 --> 00:08:38,241 So that was kind of like the catalyst. 186 00:08:38,556 --> 00:08:44,946 For me starting to stream my learning journey on Twitch and kind of post 187 00:08:44,946 --> 00:08:46,566 about tech on Twitter as well. 188 00:08:46,566 --> 00:08:50,136 I was like, I'm gonna put myself completely out there in a way I would 189 00:08:50,136 --> 00:08:53,936 never normally do, and that's been something that has brought me joy. 190 00:08:54,816 --> 00:09:00,636 Just incredibly, because the community has always been so, so supportive. 191 00:09:00,636 --> 00:09:03,546 I was in shock, like completely in shock. 192 00:09:03,966 --> 00:09:06,906 You know, I thought they're gonna, these people are gonna watch me stumble 193 00:09:06,906 --> 00:09:10,776 around, not know what the heck I'm doing, and they're gonna laugh at me 194 00:09:10,781 --> 00:09:14,316 and they're gonna make fun of me because I'm gonna look stupid on the internet. 195 00:09:14,796 --> 00:09:20,196 And I would say probably, 8% of the time it's positivity. 196 00:09:20,226 --> 00:09:21,666 It's like, yeah, you can do it. 197 00:09:21,666 --> 00:09:25,146 Or gentle guiding like, okay, yeah, you tried this solution. 198 00:09:25,506 --> 00:09:27,366 What about something like this? 199 00:09:27,366 --> 00:09:30,216 Like small hints to kind of push me in the right direction. 200 00:09:30,726 --> 00:09:35,556 And so that's, that's been huge because I feel like if I didn't have such a strong 201 00:09:35,556 --> 00:09:39,816 support system and community on Twitch and on Twitter, I don't know that I could 202 00:09:39,821 --> 00:09:41,886 still be doing it because it is hard. 203 00:09:42,156 --> 00:09:43,686 Learning coding is hard. 204 00:09:43,691 --> 00:09:45,846 People it is difficult. 205 00:09:45,996 --> 00:09:50,436 And if you're doing it, bravo to you, because I mean, seriously, you have to. 206 00:09:51,211 --> 00:09:57,151 Patience, perseverance, trying and failing, and being okay with failing, 207 00:09:57,331 --> 00:10:01,471 starting completely over, and those are things that I feel like the 208 00:10:01,471 --> 00:10:03,271 average person would go insane. 209 00:10:03,481 --> 00:10:09,511 So like having the community, when I felt down or felt like, I can't do this. 210 00:10:09,511 --> 00:10:11,611 I'm not smart enough for this, I should just quit. 211 00:10:11,881 --> 00:10:15,511 Having that validation from people being like, no, it's okay. 212 00:10:15,511 --> 00:10:19,921 We all feel like this is what truly has pushed me to continue on in the 213 00:10:19,921 --> 00:10:20,221 Eddie: learning. 214 00:10:20,986 --> 00:10:26,266 I really love that because I think one of the downfalls is when tech really 215 00:10:26,266 --> 00:10:31,096 got started, people all kind of came from the same general background, right? 216 00:10:31,156 --> 00:10:31,726 And mm-hmm. 217 00:10:32,086 --> 00:10:37,066 , very nerdy, mostly male, mostly whites, , you know? 218 00:10:37,246 --> 00:10:37,516 Yes. 219 00:10:37,606 --> 00:10:39,616 And there was. 220 00:10:40,051 --> 00:10:43,891 This thing where it was like everyone kind of just assumed everyone 221 00:10:43,896 --> 00:10:45,031 else knew what they were doing. 222 00:10:45,121 --> 00:10:49,441 And so even when you didn't, that was imposter syndrome, right? 223 00:10:49,446 --> 00:10:51,451 That was just something like in you mm-hmm. 224 00:10:51,536 --> 00:10:53,371 . And like you would just kind of push it away. 225 00:10:53,371 --> 00:10:54,571 You would just kind of ignore it. 226 00:10:54,631 --> 00:10:58,891 And I think one of the great things, right, like oftentimes people 227 00:10:58,981 --> 00:11:02,191 talk about the need for diversity in tech and everything, right? 228 00:11:02,191 --> 00:11:05,131 And sometimes people think it's just a social. 229 00:11:05,406 --> 00:11:08,406 Aspect or like grandstanding or things like that. 230 00:11:08,466 --> 00:11:15,576 But like some of the things that I think people miss is by changing who 231 00:11:15,581 --> 00:11:17,346 is actually part of the tech community. 232 00:11:17,526 --> 00:11:20,976 The culture of tech I feel like has begun to change as I've. 233 00:11:21,136 --> 00:11:24,676 Watched it from the inside where you didn't have as much 234 00:11:24,676 --> 00:11:26,806 support 15 years ago, right? 235 00:11:26,806 --> 00:11:32,086 You didn't have people being willing to be transparent, and that comes from having 236 00:11:32,086 --> 00:11:34,186 people of different backgrounds, right? 237 00:11:34,186 --> 00:11:38,086 Where regardless of what's their culture like, what gender 238 00:11:38,091 --> 00:11:39,256 do they identify with, right? 239 00:11:39,261 --> 00:11:43,036 All of these things allow them to communicate in different ways, and 240 00:11:43,036 --> 00:11:47,461 as soon as it feels like, This is not such a homogenous group where I 241 00:11:47,461 --> 00:11:49,381 think everyone has it all together. 242 00:11:50,061 --> 00:11:52,351 Everyone feels like they can start to let their guard down. 243 00:11:52,381 --> 00:11:56,851 And like some of the things that I've posted like on Twitter, where 244 00:11:56,851 --> 00:11:58,291 it's like, oh, being transparent. 245 00:11:58,291 --> 00:12:01,591 Like I never would've done that 10 to 15 years ago because I would've 246 00:12:01,591 --> 00:12:03,841 thought, oh, well that's only me. 247 00:12:03,871 --> 00:12:07,051 And if I come out and say something like that, like everyone's gonna 248 00:12:07,051 --> 00:12:08,521 look at me and criticize me. 249 00:12:08,521 --> 00:12:10,171 And so I love to hear. 250 00:12:10,746 --> 00:12:14,166 Where the tech community is today, and I believe that that really comes 251 00:12:14,166 --> 00:12:17,946 from the diversity and growth that we've had over the last 10 to 15 252 00:12:17,946 --> 00:12:18,186 Melody: years. 253 00:12:18,696 --> 00:12:19,716 Yeah, definitely. 254 00:12:19,716 --> 00:12:24,876 And you know, obviously I can't speak on how it was since I, since I am fairly new, 255 00:12:24,876 --> 00:12:30,336 but like, I won't, I won't lie, like there has been times where I have gotten dms 256 00:12:30,516 --> 00:12:35,826 or I have gotten messages primarily from men who've said like, you can't do this. 257 00:12:36,041 --> 00:12:37,631 You're a woman, what are you doing? 258 00:12:37,631 --> 00:12:40,601 You know, trolling and whatnot, which is to be expected. 259 00:12:40,601 --> 00:12:44,051 You put yourself out there online, unfortunately, that's 260 00:12:44,051 --> 00:12:45,221 what comes with the territory. 261 00:12:45,226 --> 00:12:46,331 You're gonna get haters. 262 00:12:46,361 --> 00:12:46,781 Okay. 263 00:12:46,781 --> 00:12:46,841 Yeah. 264 00:12:47,231 --> 00:12:51,311 But I would say I, and I mean this wholeheartedly, the good 265 00:12:51,311 --> 00:12:55,241 has like outweighed the bad tenfold, like a hundred fold. 266 00:12:55,451 --> 00:12:55,811 It really. 267 00:12:56,736 --> 00:13:01,956 Drowns out a lot of, a lot of the noise when you have just so much support. 268 00:13:02,016 --> 00:13:06,246 Um, so yeah, it's really helped to kind of silence the negative 269 00:13:06,251 --> 00:13:07,956 voices that that come out 270 00:13:07,956 --> 00:13:08,526 Eddie: for sure. 271 00:13:08,796 --> 00:13:14,136 Well, so how has this journey kind of been for right, like. 272 00:13:14,586 --> 00:13:17,136 Anxiety and stuff you mentioned, you're like, all right, I'm gonna 273 00:13:17,136 --> 00:13:18,516 kind of tackle the anxiety, right? 274 00:13:18,516 --> 00:13:21,606 I'm gonna start streaming, I'm gonna, you know, post stuff on 275 00:13:21,606 --> 00:13:23,946 Twitter, you know, how do you feel? 276 00:13:24,126 --> 00:13:27,636 Do you feel still, you know, a lot of anxiety when you stream 277 00:13:27,636 --> 00:13:28,656 or different things like that? 278 00:13:28,656 --> 00:13:29,856 I guess, what is that like 279 00:13:29,861 --> 00:13:30,216 Melody: for you? 280 00:13:30,511 --> 00:13:35,761 It's gotten like a million times better, which is, it's so funny because I remember 281 00:13:36,031 --> 00:13:38,281 first hitting, you know, go live button. 282 00:13:38,281 --> 00:13:40,861 I was like shaking, sweating. 283 00:13:40,866 --> 00:13:44,611 I was so scared and I had like five viewers or something and I was like, there 284 00:13:44,616 --> 00:13:46,891 is five people watching me right now. 285 00:13:46,891 --> 00:13:47,761 Oh my God. 286 00:13:47,761 --> 00:13:48,871 Like freaking out. 287 00:13:49,201 --> 00:13:50,521 I was barely talking. 288 00:13:50,521 --> 00:13:52,861 I was stuttering kind of all over myself. 289 00:13:53,071 --> 00:13:57,241 And it's just funny, like now I feel like streaming is just kind of second nature. 290 00:13:57,486 --> 00:13:58,716 I'm just kind of like, whatever. 291 00:13:58,716 --> 00:14:00,336 I don't feel any anxiety at all. 292 00:14:00,336 --> 00:14:03,636 It's just a part of something that I do because I've just done it so 293 00:14:03,636 --> 00:14:08,226 many times at this point, and it's similar with like coffee chats, right? 294 00:14:08,231 --> 00:14:12,366 I was so scared to get on Zoom and talk to someone like face to face. 295 00:14:12,636 --> 00:14:16,056 But yeah, when I initially started doing that, I mean I would get 296 00:14:16,061 --> 00:14:17,896 so much anxiety point where I. 297 00:14:18,281 --> 00:14:20,021 Be like on the verge of no showing. 298 00:14:20,201 --> 00:14:21,521 Now I have never no showed. 299 00:14:21,521 --> 00:14:23,531 Okay, please don't do that to people. 300 00:14:23,741 --> 00:14:27,071 But I'm just saying that's how scared I would feel like my 301 00:14:27,071 --> 00:14:28,271 fight or flight would kick in. 302 00:14:28,271 --> 00:14:30,581 I'd be like, I need to run from this situation. 303 00:14:31,031 --> 00:14:35,891 And now I don't get any anxiety at all whatsoever talking to people. 304 00:14:36,191 --> 00:14:36,821 And that's. 305 00:14:37,146 --> 00:14:42,726 Huge for me cuz now I actually feel like I can get to know another person and be open 306 00:14:42,726 --> 00:14:47,376 to them and not be so in my head about, oh, are they judging what I'm saying? 307 00:14:47,381 --> 00:14:50,796 Or are they judging how I look or how I talk, or any of that. 308 00:14:50,796 --> 00:14:55,776 So yeah, it's, it sounds completely cheesy, but it's changed my 309 00:14:55,776 --> 00:14:57,276 life for the better a hundred. 310 00:14:58,176 --> 00:14:59,136 Eddie: That's great to hear. 311 00:14:59,376 --> 00:15:04,536 You know, it's, it's interesting what kind of, how you can normalize things, right? 312 00:15:04,536 --> 00:15:07,296 And it's really about, like the more you do something, the more 313 00:15:07,296 --> 00:15:08,556 comfortable you get with it. 314 00:15:08,706 --> 00:15:11,496 So that's awesome to hear how that's kind of Yeah. 315 00:15:11,496 --> 00:15:15,006 Helped you kind of grow out of something that you kind of felt 316 00:15:15,006 --> 00:15:16,266 like was a hindrance in your life. 317 00:15:16,266 --> 00:15:18,996 You said, Hey, I'm gonna tackle this thing, and like you've, you've tackled 318 00:15:19,436 --> 00:15:20,376 multiple things at the same time. 319 00:15:20,376 --> 00:15:21,096 That's just awesome. 320 00:15:21,126 --> 00:15:21,306 Melody: Yeah. 321 00:15:22,626 --> 00:15:23,436 , which was insane. 322 00:15:23,436 --> 00:15:25,236 I was like, why am I doing this to myself? 323 00:15:25,241 --> 00:15:26,196 But we're gonna do. 324 00:15:26,516 --> 00:15:31,616 So I just wanna make sure to let people know that no matter how 325 00:15:31,616 --> 00:15:34,436 anxious you are, you really can do it. 326 00:15:34,856 --> 00:15:38,036 It's gonna be difficult, but the more you expose yourself 327 00:15:38,036 --> 00:15:40,376 to it, the easier it will get. 328 00:15:40,376 --> 00:15:41,936 I promise you it will. 329 00:15:42,576 --> 00:15:45,666 I'm not gonna say it's gonna be perfect and you're never gonna 330 00:15:45,666 --> 00:15:48,966 have anxiety again and you're cured cuz that's not how it works. 331 00:15:49,146 --> 00:15:50,466 Do I still get butterflies? 332 00:15:50,466 --> 00:15:51,096 Sometimes? 333 00:15:51,216 --> 00:15:51,726 Yes. 334 00:15:51,726 --> 00:15:53,496 Do I still get a little anxious Sometimes? 335 00:15:53,796 --> 00:15:54,336 Yes. 336 00:15:54,606 --> 00:15:58,866 But the amount that it's changed is astronomical and I 337 00:15:58,866 --> 00:16:00,516 promise it will for you too. 338 00:16:00,516 --> 00:16:02,976 You just have to put yourself out there and try. 339 00:16:03,186 --> 00:16:04,386 That's the hardest step. 340 00:16:04,476 --> 00:16:06,906 Once you get in the rhythm of doing it, it gets much. 341 00:16:07,836 --> 00:16:08,076 Yeah, 342 00:16:08,076 --> 00:16:08,676 Eddie: definitely. 343 00:16:08,676 --> 00:16:12,906 I think whether it's anxiety or whether it's just things that you 344 00:16:12,906 --> 00:16:15,306 should do, right, like habits. 345 00:16:15,456 --> 00:16:15,576 Mm-hmm. 346 00:16:15,876 --> 00:16:20,856 , they're always hardest at the beginning, and whether it's public speaking or 347 00:16:20,861 --> 00:16:25,326 hopping on calls or learning something new like programming or like, I've been 348 00:16:25,326 --> 00:16:29,496 trying to drink more water instead of just soda, and it's like by default, use a. 349 00:16:30,171 --> 00:16:30,681 There. 350 00:16:31,191 --> 00:16:32,121 Everyone keeps saying that. 351 00:16:32,121 --> 00:16:33,871 What is going on with this straw stuff? 352 00:16:33,871 --> 00:16:34,511 Melody: Here's a straw. 353 00:16:34,791 --> 00:16:35,391 Listen 354 00:16:36,111 --> 00:16:37,311 Eddie: straw, it works. 355 00:16:37,371 --> 00:16:40,791 I just ordered a Tumblr with a straw that should be here today. 356 00:16:40,851 --> 00:16:42,501 That is also a smart Tumblr. 357 00:16:42,501 --> 00:16:43,461 You will drink more water. 358 00:16:43,731 --> 00:16:44,121 All right. 359 00:16:44,121 --> 00:16:44,151 All right. 360 00:16:44,391 --> 00:16:45,321 Hopefully that works. 361 00:16:45,711 --> 00:16:47,361 But it's like you have to change the habit, right? 362 00:16:47,361 --> 00:16:53,241 Like the habit is, oh, I'm scared, or, oh, that's too difficult, or, I just want to 363 00:16:53,241 --> 00:16:55,461 drink the sugar water that tastes so good. 364 00:16:55,731 --> 00:17:02,331 And it's like as we kind of get over that initial hump, things get easier. 365 00:17:02,391 --> 00:17:02,631 Right? 366 00:17:02,631 --> 00:17:05,601 It's always hardest at the beginning, I think, for anything we do. 367 00:17:05,871 --> 00:17:06,681 Yeah, a hundred percent. 368 00:17:07,416 --> 00:17:10,926 As we wrap up today at, we always talk about as a community, we love to 369 00:17:10,926 --> 00:17:14,466 support each other and we just wanted to know is there anything you're involved 370 00:17:14,466 --> 00:17:16,266 in or something you've worked on? 371 00:17:17,106 --> 00:17:19,506 Probably heard of it a couple of times today, so it's probably not 372 00:17:19,506 --> 00:17:20,556 gonna be a surprise to anyone. 373 00:17:20,556 --> 00:17:21,246 But, uh, yeah. 374 00:17:21,246 --> 00:17:24,306 Is there anything that you do routinely that you'd like to invite people to? 375 00:17:25,536 --> 00:17:26,346 Melody: Surprise. 376 00:17:26,346 --> 00:17:27,306 Surprise. 377 00:17:27,336 --> 00:17:29,136 It's gonna be my Twitch channel. 378 00:17:29,136 --> 00:17:31,626 Please come watch me on Twitch. 379 00:17:31,866 --> 00:17:32,886 Fumble about in some. 380 00:17:33,656 --> 00:17:37,136 At Melody Dev and yeah, be part of the community. 381 00:17:37,136 --> 00:17:38,516 We all laugh together. 382 00:17:38,696 --> 00:17:41,696 We all create code together, have fun, co-work. 383 00:17:41,696 --> 00:17:44,006 So yeah, it's, it's a very open community. 384 00:17:44,186 --> 00:17:45,086 No matter who you are. 385 00:17:45,086 --> 00:17:45,566 You are 386 00:17:45,571 --> 00:17:46,046 Eddie: welcome. 387 00:17:46,226 --> 00:17:47,816 Well, yeah, so you all heard it. 388 00:17:47,966 --> 00:17:48,626 Go check out. 389 00:17:48,631 --> 00:17:52,226 Do you have, like, on your Twitch account, does it have like a schedule or are you 390 00:17:52,226 --> 00:17:54,116 more just kind of random when you log 391 00:17:54,116 --> 00:17:54,356 Melody: on? 392 00:17:54,686 --> 00:17:56,186 I wing it to be honest. 393 00:17:56,186 --> 00:17:56,996 It's random. 394 00:17:56,996 --> 00:17:57,296 All right. 395 00:17:57,356 --> 00:17:58,316 You'll catch me there, 396 00:17:58,716 --> 00:17:58,946 . Eddie: There we go. 397 00:17:58,946 --> 00:18:00,896 So go follow Melody on the account. 398 00:18:00,926 --> 00:18:02,126 Turn on Notifi. 399 00:18:02,211 --> 00:18:05,601 So that your app tells you, Hey, melody just went live 400 00:18:05,661 --> 00:18:07,491 and uh, go join the community. 401 00:18:07,671 --> 00:18:08,121 Melody: Yeah. 402 00:18:08,121 --> 00:18:08,961 Thanks so much. 403 00:18:08,961 --> 00:18:09,981 You got my back with that one. 404 00:18:11,331 --> 00:18:11,931 . Eddie: Awesome. 405 00:18:11,936 --> 00:18:14,481 Well Melody, thank you for joining us today. 406 00:18:14,481 --> 00:18:17,811 It's been just a pleasure to hear a bit about your journey and what 407 00:18:17,816 --> 00:18:21,251 it's been like to get into tech and the community has been around you. 408 00:18:21,531 --> 00:18:23,241 Um, I just really appreciate the time. 409 00:18:23,481 --> 00:18:25,071 Melody: Yeah, thanks so much for having me 410 00:18:26,285 --> 00:18:31,085 Eddie: thank you for joining us for episode 35, hitting the go live button. 411 00:18:31,355 --> 00:18:32,165 I was shaking. 412 00:18:32,615 --> 00:18:33,215 With melody. 413 00:18:33,785 --> 00:18:36,515 You can find out more about melody on her website. 414 00:18:36,845 --> 00:18:38,765 Melody m.dev. 415 00:18:39,185 --> 00:18:42,605 And you can find her on all across the interwebs. 416 00:18:43,295 --> 00:18:46,895 You can find links to everything we talked about in this episode, as well 417 00:18:46,895 --> 00:18:50,705 as a link to Melody's website and social media accounts in the show notes. 418 00:18:51,335 --> 00:18:54,395 If you enjoyed this episode, help others discover it as well. 419 00:18:54,605 --> 00:18:57,515 Why don't you give us a shadow on your favorite social media platform? 420 00:18:57,785 --> 00:19:01,835 Maybe tag a friend or coworker that you think would enjoy this episode. 421 00:19:02,285 --> 00:19:05,585 And don't forget to follow us wherever you hang out online. 422 00:19:06,035 --> 00:19:10,145 Or you do, you can subscribe to our newsletter to stay up to date. 423 00:19:10,985 --> 00:19:12,215 Thank you for listening. 424 00:19:12,575 --> 00:19:14,675 And I hope you have a great day. 425 00:19:14,715 --> 00:19:16,275 Melody: thank you everyone for listening. 426 00:19:16,375 --> 00:19:16,795 Bye.