Uk podcast listenership is booming in 2025, and here's why you should care.
Speaker AIf you're a podcaster, write then my podcasting padawan, a podcaster who is looking to attain pod mastery.
Speaker ABrace yourself in this episode, because the RAJAR Midas Winter 2024 report has just been published and it's loaded with insights that might make you rethink your entire podcasting strategy.
Speaker AIf you're a podcast creator, marketer, or someone who just enjoys nerding out over data.
Speaker AHey, no judgment here.
Speaker AI'm the same.
Speaker AThis is the kind of report that can help you make better decisions about your show.
Speaker ASo let's cut the crap and get straight into it.
Speaker AHere's what's happening in UK podcasting right now.
Speaker AWell, first of all, the headline podcasting is getting some serious love now on this little island here.
Speaker AIt turns out 26% of the UK population is now listening to podcasts on a weekly basis.
Speaker AThat's over 16 million people choosing to listen to podcasts regularly, which, let's be honest, that's a massive leap.
Speaker AUp 54% since winter 2020.
Speaker ANow, we're not going to get into the nitty gritty with this about what actually is listening to a podcast.
Speaker AIs it something in a podcast app?
Speaker ACan you do it on YouTube?
Speaker AWe're not here for that.
Speaker AAnd we're not just here about the numbers either.
Speaker AWhat we're here to talk about is the psychology, because these people aren't just casually dipping in, they're fully committed, spending an average eight hours a week listening to podcasts.
Speaker AThat's nearly a full work day dedicated to podcast listening.
Speaker AWhich, if you think about it, where we've come from to where we are now kinda mad.
Speaker AIf you've been wondering whether it's too late to start a podcast, this should put that nonsense to bed.
Speaker AThe audience is there, you just need to bring them to you.
Speaker ASo who's actually listening?
Speaker ANo surprises here.
Speaker AMost podcast listeners are under 55.
Speaker ASo if your niche is how to retire in style, maybe rethink your target audience, come a little bit younger.
Speaker AThe gender split is 50 50, meaning podcasts are attracting a well balanced mix of listeners.
Speaker AAnd so here's the takeaway for you on that.
Speaker AIt means there's an audience for every kind of podcast.
Speaker AWhether you're talking about crypto crime stories or the best way to bake banana bread, there are ears out there for your content.
Speaker ANow, this is gonna be of interest if your idea of podcast listening is a couple on the M1 listening on a Saturday driving out to see Aunt Flo.
Speaker ANo, that's not how most people are consuming podc.
Speaker AApparently, listening to podcasts is a deeply personal experience, with a huge 93% of listening happening alone.
Speaker ANow, this is crucial insight for any podcast creator because it means your audience is likely fully engaged and paying attention to you.
Speaker AThey're not listening with you warbling on in the background while they have their own conversation in the car over the top of your voice.
Speaker AIt's absolutely not background noise like radio or tv.
Speaker APodcasts are intimate, and that's why listeners often feel like they know their favorite podcast host like you.
Speaker AAs for how people are listening, well, 81% use smartphones, but some are still sticking to computers.
Speaker AThat's 6%, tablets 7% and smart speakers 3%.
Speaker AStill, 3% of the population in the UK is listening to podcasts through their smart speakers.
Speaker AI'm astounded by that.
Speaker AI really didn't think that they'd taken off as a listening device.
Speaker AShows what even I know.
Speaker AAnyway, this means that optimizing for mobile listeners is definitely a must if your show is poorly formatted for easy mobile consumption, that is.
Speaker AYou've got terrible sound quality clunky episodes.
Speaker APeople can't find you easily because of your terrible titles while you're making it harder for yourself to find potential listeners.
Speaker ASo where and when are these people listening?
Speaker AForget the idea of listeners listening in while they sip coffee in a trendy cafe.
Speaker AThe reality is this.
Speaker A51% listen at home, which makes sense when you think about it.
Speaker AIt's a comfy setting with no distractions.
Speaker A17% listen at work, so they're clearly pretending to be productive while actually consuming podcast content.
Speaker AYeah, sorry boss, I'm not listening to Joe Rogan.
Speaker APromise I'll get that report to you by the end of today.
Speaker AAnother 17% are listening while traveling.
Speaker AHello, commuters, and the most popular time for podcast listening?
Speaker ABetween 8am and 8.30am so yes, podcasts are a morning routine staple, just like your radio morning shows, except hopefully more enjoyable and with less cringy jokes.
Speaker AIf you're publishing your new episodes at fairly random times, you might want to think about this, because it could mean you're missing out on some peak listening.
Speaker AThere's no guarantees that anyone's going to listen exactly when the stats say they are, but if the trends are going that way, it probably makes sense to try and lean into those trends.
Speaker AReleasing your episodes at 1am probably not a good idea.
Speaker ASo what are the podcast genres then that everyone's listening into?
Speaker AWell, of course, true crime.
Speaker ANo shocker there.
Speaker ABut alongside that, the top genres include news and politics because we all love a bit of rage bait sports comedy.
Speaker AThat's probably to recover from all the murder and politics, gender wise.
Speaker AOkay, so no brainer really.
Speaker ABut men are more into sports podcasts, duh.
Speaker AWhile women lean more towards true crime, also, duh.
Speaker ASo the big takeaway here is, if you're launching a podcast, consider aligning with these popular categories, or at least borrowing some elements from them.
Speaker AIt doesn't mean that every single podcast that's released today should have a true crime angle, though.
Speaker AIf you can crowbar that in, then why not?
Speaker ABut it does mean understanding what is engaging audiences.
Speaker ASo then let's talk about how people are finding their new podcasts.
Speaker AWell, let's be real about this.
Speaker AThere are a lot of podcast gurus that claim podcast discovery is a total mess and impossible.
Speaker AAnd that's why they try and get everyone onto YouTube because they think that's the golden solution to this due to YouTube's apparently much better search algorithm.
Speaker AI call BS on that.
Speaker ABut that aside, for a moment, let's talk about where the data suggests people are finding new shows.
Speaker AWord of mouth, Friends talking to friends about their favorite podcasts.
Speaker AThat's a biggie, apparently.
Speaker AAnd yes, just like I've alluded to a moment ago, podcast apps like Apple Podcasts and Spotify Recommendation.
Speaker ASo yes, people are still finding shows within apps.
Speaker ARegardless of what the gurus are saying about podcast SEO being terrible.
Speaker AIt's not.
Speaker AIt is actually possible for you to get your show found in search on podcast apps.
Speaker AI teach on this stuff other ways that people are finding podcasts, social media video shorts, I.
Speaker AE.
Speaker ATikTok and Instagram.
Speaker AProbably some YouTube short stuff in there as well.
Speaker ANow they're saying this is how people discover shows.
Speaker AThey're not saying that the direct correlation means that they're listening to them once they've discovered them through those platforms.
Speaker AHowever, yeah, it certainly wouldn't hurt if you're putting your podcast content out on those apps, because then it might be front of mind when someone comes to search for the shows within the podcast apps.
Speaker AI still maintain social media accounts for less than 1% of all podcast conversions.
Speaker AEither way, if you're relying solely on people will just find my show tactics, you're totally missing out.
Speaker AYou need to actively market your podcast, encourage your listeners to share it, get clips out on social, and make sure that your podcast is optimized for search.
Speaker ASo here are my final takeaways then from this report.
Speaker AHere's what you need to do next as a podcaster.
Speaker AWell, first of all, take it seriously.
Speaker AThere has never been a better time to podcast.
Speaker AAudience numbers are up and the commitment to listening is high.
Speaker AKnow your audience.
Speaker AMost listeners are under 55 and they're equally split between men and women, and most are listening alone.
Speaker AThat's a great opportunity that you've got.
Speaker AThe radio stations and television doesn't optimize your scheduling for peak listening times.
Speaker AMornings are key and mobile listening dominates.
Speaker AOh, and genre, that definitely matters.
Speaker ASo lean into the attributes of true crime, news, sports and comedy if you want mass appeal.
Speaker ANow, let's not get into the argument of that right now because that's not what this episode's about.
Speaker AI always talk about getting niche.
Speaker AHowever, if you're looking for mass appeal, then think about what the other bigger shows are doing.
Speaker AIt's a no brainer that one.
Speaker AAnd understand this Podcasting isn't slowing down.
Speaker AIf anything, it's only getting bigger.
Speaker AMake discovery easy.
Speaker AUse social media recommendations and podcast SEO to make sure new listeners can find you.
Speaker ALook, here's the deal.
Speaker APodcasting isn't slowing down.
Speaker AIf anything, it's only getting bigger and bigger.
Speaker ASo if you're serious about growing your show or finally launching one, now is the time to start taking it really seriously.
Speaker AAnd if you need my help in getting your podcast off the ground or growing it to the next level, you know where to find me.
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