I am lucky enough to hang out with guys like Craig Van Slyke

from AI Goes TO College, Mike Russell who I've known for years from

Music Radio Creative, and, of course, Larry Roberts from Red Hat Media.

And these guys are all about AI. And when AI first

came on the scene, I was, like, not quite so sure about this.

And, of course, they all said, hey. This is the worst it's gonna be.

And it has been getting better. And there are definitely some things you can

do with AI that I'm gonna share today. And and there are definitely some things

you don't wanna do with AI. And I unfortunately see this quite a

bit. And so this is probably gonna be a topic I

come back to on a frequent basis. But today, I found some cool things you

can do with AI that I had no idea that could help your

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yearly subscription. And so, yeah. We are talking about

AI today And I am gonna say

right up here, I am by no means an AI expert. That's kinda why

I'm doing this. I'm approaching this as I wanna learn more about

this. My background is in software. I taught a

lot of Microsoft Office over the years. And

now, you know, obviously, I've transitioned into podcasting. But I've

always known that if you were not learning, you

were going backwards in the world. That's the way it is. And so I've always

known I gotta get up to speed on some of this AI stuff or I'm

gonna be lost because I don't think AI is going to take our jobs. I

think your job is going to be taken by somebody who knows how to use

AI. That's the way I view this. And I was like, I better get up

to speed at least a little bit on this. And it's one of those things,

like all software, the minute you learn it, you're

out of date. And so we're gonna talk about some things today. I'm

gonna explain how I used to do a show, and I

would basically work on it for about 4 to 5 hours. And

that's down to about 90 minutes using AI.

So that's coming up. But the first thing, what the heck is

AI, artificial intelligence? I kinda like to call

it assisted intelligence. But ChatGPT

is based on these things called large language models. And

in a nutshell, it's really good at predicting what the

next word should be. That's really it in a nutshell. And,

again, I'm not I'm trying to boil this down. But I am a musician. I've

played the guitar since I was a a wee lad. And I'm very

good at turning on the radio and being able to play something, figure

out what key we're in, and then I can predict just by basically

the style of music where it's gonna go. And that's

basically what these tools are doing. They're like, hey. They just

said the word or they ended a sentence with this.

I predict we need a question mark here. It's really what they're doing in a

nutshell. And, again, this is my very limited knowledge. But from what I understand,

I think I'm in the ballpark with that answer. And so one of the

things you have to be worried about

is when you use this for research, especially if

you're trying to stay up to date on what happened

now kind of things. Because I asked chatgpt

how far back does your knowledge go? Like, I don't

wanna ask it what's the best microphone if its knowledge goes back

to 2020 because it'll be telling me something that, like, no. No. No. No.

There's a much better, you know, mobile clip on microphone than one that was

out in 2020. So what I've done is I've used

artificial intelligence, and I realized that ChatGPT can talk to me

now, but I haven't turned that on yet. And so I

asked ChatGPT a couple of questions, and I grabbed its answers and

ran it through a thing called 11 Labs where you can basically use

these premade voices. And today, I'm using Brian

because I thought Brian sounded okay. And so I asked it.

I go, well, tell me how far back does your database go? My language model's

knowledge goes back as far as prehistory, including ancient civilizations,

history, literature, and science. However, my training data

includes a focus on written works, historical documents, and

data primarily up until September 2021. Therefore,

I can discuss ancient history as well as modern events up to that

point with some additional data until my cutoff in

2023. Anything beyond this time frame, I

would need to look up through browsing. So depending on what you're doing,

sometimes a year or 2, or if we go back to

2021, 3 years, sometimes not much happens.

But if you're in a technology field, there's a lot that can happen in

3 years. So I just asked it. I'm like, well, tell me what are the

top ten things people use you for? People use me for a wide

variety of tasks, and the top ten tasks I often perform include,

number 1, answering questions, providing information,

explanations, and in-depth responses on a vast array of

topics like history, science, technology, and

general knowledge. And I'm not sure that would be a use

because ChatCPT doesn't cite its sources. Later,

I'll tell you about a tool I found that does cite its source, and it's

actually pretty dang cool. Let's go to number 2. Number 2,

writing assistance. Helping with writing tasks such as essays,

emails, creative stories, articles, reports, blog

posts, or social media content. I've used ChatTP to do that,

and it's actually pretty cool. Number 3, programming.

Help. Assisting with coding, debugging, writing

scripts, and explaining programming concepts in various languages

like Python, JavaScript, and others. Now that is not my

jam. I'm not a coder. In fact, I hate coding. And but

the fact that it can do this and I've heard others say, yeah. It's actually

pretty good at this. Number 4, research assistance.

Summarizing articles, explaining complex research papers,

or helping with preliminary research on specific topics. See, this is

another one that makes me a little nervous. So I might start here. And if

it says something really cool, I'm then going to have to Google whatever it

just told me so I can figure out what the source of that is. And,

again, I'll talk about a tool that gives the sources that's actually pretty cool. Number

5, language translation, including grammar

explanations and vocabulary help. You'll also notice that Chat GPT is

very chatty, and so I'm cutting some of these answers down because he goes way

in-depth on that stuff. Number 6, creative

brainstorming. I've used it for this. It's pretty amazing when I go, hey, I've got

these 7 steps to do blank. Am I missing anything? And it'll come up with

extra ones that I hadn't thought of. Number 7, personal

productivity. And when I heard this, my brain went What? What? What? And

so I asked him, like, wait. What do you mean productivity? How how would

that work? Sure. Here are some of the key ways I contribute to

improving personal productivity. Task prioritization.

I help users organize their tasks into a to do list. I can

also help prioritize tasks using systems like the Eisenhower matrix

or ABC prioritization. Time blocking,

suggesting ways to allocate time slots for specific tasks based on

deadlines and importance, ensuring productivity without

burnout. I assist in creating smart goals to

ensure that users have clear, actionable objectives.

I help track goals over time by reviewing accomplishments,

encouraging reflection, and reminding users of key tasks.

Time management techniques. I recommend strategies like the

Pomodoro technique and offer suggestions on how to implement

it. And he went on for, like, another 4 minutes. And so I had

no idea. Again, I prefer the a

in AI to be assisted intelligence. And so right

now, I have it set up. It's supposed to remind me at

3:30 if my show notes aren't done, and I'm doing this

differently. I've already kind of figured out what I'm gonna talk about, and I'm

already into recording. So that'll be fun. But and the way

it nudges you, it doesn't, like, send you a text message, at least. I'm

sure it probably can, but I don't know. But for me, I would have

to leave this open, and then it will basically

pop up a little bloop. Hey. Are you done yet? I guess. I'm doing this

as we go along. But let's go back to the list of things you can

get Chatgpt to do. And, again, we're gonna get more than

Chat GPT in just a bit. Number 8, tutoring and education.

Mom, can you help me with my homework? No. Just ask Chat GPT.

Number 9, emotional support and reflective journaling. And, again, my

brain said What? What? What? Providing guidance for

personal reflection, offering empathetic support, or acting as a

tool for mental wellness through journaling and self reflection. I'm a

big fan of journaling. Have had a diary since I was a wee lad, but

that's interesting. Number 10. Entertainment.

Engaging users in fun activities like storytelling, word

games, trivia, creating prompts for art, or answering

thought provoking what if scenarios. So from the horse's

mouth, that's the top ten things that people are using ChatGPT

for. If you go to open.ai/chatgpt,

you basically click there, and you don't have to worry because you're talking to

a robot. You can just say, what's the best way to prompt

you to get you to do such and such? And it'll say this.

Like, you can actually use chat GPT to teach you

how to use chat GPT. It's very, very meta. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So I've already mentioned this before. The one thing that

I am worried about that I personally, this is just my

opinion, wouldn't do, I don't know that would say, write me

a script about using AI in podcasting

and then just read it verbatim. I have seen an article. I've

probably mentioned this before. It was about

podcasting, and it said there was a discoverability problem with

podcasting, which side note, no, there's not. And it said this

went back to, like, the nineties. And And I'm like, well, that's interesting because

podcasting really didn't come along till about 2000

ish. 2004 is what I usually cite. But,

yeah. And what happened then is every

blog on that website lost its credibility.

I always say there are 2 things that every podcaster starts with, no

audience and credibility. And when you take

something for its word that's artificial and sometimes they call these

hallucinations because if it does know the answer, hey. I'll just make one up.

And if that comes out of your mouth, you

better make sure that's the truth. Because the one thing

that, especially now, we're gonna hear in the US for the next

50 some days is a lot of lies. We're in a election

series, and everybody's lying out there, you know. And,

yeah, it's hard to find the truth. And that's why it's actually there have been

reports. People trust podcasters more than politicians because

we speak the truth. So make sure that the words coming

out of your mouth are the truth because when you lose your credibility,

that's a bad thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, today,

I let you know, hey. This is an artificial voice. I think if you do

that, if you're gonna use something like 11 Labs, I'll have the links in the

show notes for that because there is an affiliate program for 11 Labs. It's only

$5 a month. And my buddy, Mark, I

know him from podcastbranding.co, but he also does a podcast

about a TV show. And he said he's actually getting more

interaction with his audience because and this is a real thing.

Not everybody loves the sound of their voice. And so when you say, hey. It's

a podcast, you have to send in your voice.

Like, here, use something like the building voice mail tool of PodPage

or SpeakPipe or whatever. Some people don't really wanna have their voice in

the show. And so Mark said, hey. If you send in

an email, I will have 11 Labs do this. And

here's what he said. But, yeah, it it's really helped out. And as I said,

a lot of people have reached out and said, thank you so much for letting

me do this because now I could be a part of your community. I've always

wanted to be, but I I never felt comfortable, with my voice.

I didn't wanna submit my voice. Yeah. This is is great for them. It opens

up a new venue. If you don't feel like reading because I got sick and

tired of reading emails and stumbling over words and stuff and especially the

poorly written ones. And it's funny because the AI voice will read the poorly

written ones just as well. I mean, they're still poorly written, but the AI

voice does a great job reading them. So And so for me, I think as

long as you let your audience know either before or

after that, hey. That's an AI generated voice. I think

you're good. It's when you pass it off as a real person,

and they go, because especially the youngins, the young

kids can, man, they smell AI voices like a bloodhound, and

they'll go, oh, this person is trying to pull the wool over our eyes, and

there goes the integrity right out the window. Let's talk

about the 18,000,000 AI tools out there that

you can use for a podcast. And here's one

thing I wanna say upfront. I think it depends on your show. I

know. It's podcasting, and the answer is it depends. Yeah. It

depends. Let me give you an example. I play with CapShow.

I've had Deidre on the show, and I did one episode. I forget which one

it was, but, you know, this show normally has multiple topics in it.

And this was one where the whole show was about one topic. And I

threw it into CapShow, and it was absolutely gorgeous. I went

to the blog post of it and used the blog post for my show

notes. It even told me, like, insert image here with

somebody doing such and such. So I went to Canva, typed that in,

found the it was it was amazing because that tool

was made to kinda help market your show. And I was like,

wow. That's great. Now for the record, I don't really use

CapShow that much. When I have a situation like

that, it works brilliantly. I tried CapShow

on a episode I did of the podcast Hot

Seat, link in the show notes, and I was

helping someone who did a legal podcast,

and it's very much an education like. Here's the things that this person

could publish on their show, and here are the things they did that were amazing.

Right? That's what I wanted, a summary of what was good and what was bad.

And instead, it spit out a thing on how to market your

legal podcast. And I was like, yep. Not really helpful.

But CapShow has a really cool community, and they have a lot of

education. And so why am I still a Cap Show member?

For those times when I have a single subject, so if I'm doing something

like for your podcast consultant, which are short shows with one

topic, I will use it for that. But for this

show, we're ask the podcast coach. And for the record, I do a show

called ask the podcast coach. It's 90 minutes. It's live

q and a with myself and Jim Collison. You can find that at ask the

podcast coach. And no AI tool knows what to do with that.

Because in 90 minutes, we will cover 15

different subjects, and AI just goes, ah,

because it can't find a common theme. So there are times when

AI just goes, I don't know. And that's where it's funny.

I'll I'll upload that file, and it'll give me topics. And none of the topics

are based on what I really wanna use. Because with that show, when you have

multiple topics, you can't just go, the title

is topic a, topic b, topic b. It's not yeah. It's not gonna work. So

I figure out what's the topic that's gonna make people click the

most. And that's what I use for the title. So there are times

when AI is smart, but you're giving it stuff that is like, it's not designed

to do that. So there are tools. I use Cast Magic.

And Cast Magic, full disclosure, I bought on AppSumo. I got

a lifetime deal on that. And it keeps adding more and more and

more features, and most of them, I never use.

And so it's I like that tool because I paid for it once.

If I was paying monthly for it because most of the stuff, if I'm gonna

be honest here, I look at the titles and go, meh.

Like, it's not like, oh, that's amazing. And then I'll look at the opening

thing. And I often have to say, write this in first person, not third person

because it's weird when Dave Jackson talks about Dave Jackson. I'm like, no. No. No.

Write this in first person. So it seems like I have a lot to

tweak. And this is my whole point on most of these automated

tools is if you have a

creative brain and the ability to type,

I'm not sure they're really saving me any time. Now

when I say that, if you're a person that doesn't have

that marketing gene, that doesn't mean you're not smart. That means you

have skills in other areas, and that's where this may come in handy. If you're

like, Dave, I hunt and peck when I type. This may come in

very handy. So your mileage may vary. For

me, someone who knows how to type,

and thank god for AI as in, you know, the spell

checker in Microsoft Word and the other AI. What does it

work? Grammarly. Thank god for Grammarly. That's AI in a way.

Right? It cleans me up. But if you're a person that's like,

yeah. I'm not as creative. I'm more of a logical thinker, then

this might be great for you. If you're like Dave, I hunt and pack, then

these tools might be great for you. Almost all of them have some sort of

free plan that you can go in. Like, I know pod squeeze. I think you

can do one free episode a month. And if Swell AI has one free episode

a month, you could get a bunch of these and never pay for any of

them in a way. But I just the key, and I'm gonna

keep saying this, is a, never

ever copy and paste without reading it because you could

shoot your integrity. And these might be brilliant for

you. For me, I use them and go, yeah.

Okay. And, also, I love the fact that look. I'm in my

late fifties. And some of this stuff, it wants me to write where 80%

of the text are emojis. And I'm like, yeah. That doesn't really fit my vibe.

And maybe there's a way I could go in and

add some additional prompts, add some additional background. I know with chat

gbt, you can go in and say who you are, and

you can say who you're talking to. And it will kind

of give you better answers. So as always, you know, garbage in,

garbage out. And when you just wanted to like, I just wanna type

3 things and have it spit out something that's gonna give me 10,000

downloads, that's not really what it's designed to do. So let's talk

about some things that I do love. Now you could do this

in probably multiple tools, but this is a way I discovered

it in Otter, dotai, I believe, is that one. This is

just primarily started off as a transcription tool. And

once it transcribes it, you can then ask it questions

as is Cash Magic, as is all of these. And so with Ask the

Podcast Coach, I got 90 minutes. And often, I

will answer a question with resources. Like, oh, what's the best microphone?

It's this. What's the best tool for this? It's this.

And after 90 minutes, I've got a boatload of links that

I need to put into my show notes. And this is one that I was

like, now we're talking. And so what I

do is I will say, make a list of

all the companies mentioned in this episode, and it'll spit them

out. And then I'll also ask it, please make a list of all

the URLs mentioned in this website. In between those 2,

I can figure out what I mentioned and put those links in

the show notes because we've talked about this

before. Show notes, most of the time when people go to

them is because you mentioned something that was really, really cool,

and they wanna go find out more information. And when there's no link,

you will get a sternly worded letter. So that's a cool

tool I use for a cool strategy for

show notes. Yay. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe you're doing a kinda show

where you wanna comment on what somebody said in another show,

and so you know it's somewhere in this hour long podcast.

This is where and it's not really AI. This is just using technology.

You could have that file transcribed, and then you know

they mentioned the purple handled such and such.

And you're like, oh. And you can go into the transcript, find

purple handle, and then see, oh, that's at the 18 minute

37 second mark. And you just saved yourself a whole lot of time

trying to figure out where is this so I can make a clip. Yay. Yeah.

Yeah. Let's talk about Spinwriters.

I signed up at Spinriders. They give you a 5 day trial, and I'm

probably not gonna use this one. But this is again

think about how politicians are winning right now. And I don't care if you're red

or blue or purple or whatever. They're telling you exactly what you wanna

hear. I'm gonna lower taxes. I'm gonna have you make more money. I'm

gonna make more jobs. I'm going to rub your

shoulders and and tell you you're great. Right? They just tell you anything you wanna

hear so that you vote for them. And sometimes these AI tools are

like, you can quit your job in 6 weeks. Joe

Schmo made a $1,000,000 selling blah blah blah

for and you're just like, wow. And

so somebody told me about Spinwriter, and I checked it

out. And the idea here is as you go in, and I went in and

said, hey. Podcast growth. What do you got? And it spit out

a bunch of stuff that was not podcast growth. And it was

it it scanned, like, 12,000 articles.

And the idea is you go, oh, well, this article is

almost what I was talking about. Click here, and then it rewrites

it. And you can then go in, and it has

this some sort of tool that switches out adverbs

or adjectives so that it's, you know, SEO, blah blah. It

slices it, dices it, even julienne's. And so

I had it eventually spit out an article. It's like because I just wanna see

my favorite was it kept referring to webmasters. Hey, webmaster.

Do you want more traffic to your website? And I was like, I don't know.

We've used that phrase anymore. But I took the PDF that it spit

it out, and I threw it into this other thing I wanted to talk about,

which is actually interesting. We talk about research. How do I

research quickly? This Google notebook is really

interesting. So I upload this PDF written by

Spinwriter. And, also, that's the other one. This is another thing that

drives me nuts. And we're going to make 500, you

know, clips, articles based on such and such. And we've got

live people that can help you, which makes it sound good. But if you I

need live people to what? Fix the crap that you handed me? I don't know.

But when somebody goes, we can give you 500 clips from this

large thing. I'm like, yeah. But how many of those are good? We

give you 100 clips. Great. How many of those are good? Or did you

just give me a job where I have to sift through the 97 bad clips

to get to the 3 good ones? But, anyway, I uploaded this

PDF and to Google notebook, and they

have these 2 fairly convincing voices

that then take my PDF and read it to me like it's a

podcast. So you're out there and you're thinking about jumping into this whole

world of podcasting. And I get it. There's a lot of buzz. Right?

But is it really possible to turn your voice,

your ideas, into a paycheck? Is podcasting

a real deal? Or is it just, you know, another one of those online

trends? Well, today, we are diving into Podcast Revenue or Perish.

So Podcast Revenue or Perish was the headline that the

Spinwriter came up with. And, also, not a bad hook.

Is it a real deal, or can you actually make some money with this thing?

To see if it can give us some answers. Maybe help us figure out if

podcasting is that golden ticket some people claim it to be. You know what I

find really interesting is how this article captures that early energy

of podcasting even though it was written a while back. Yeah. Like the Wild West.

And realized this was an article from Spinwriter that it expects me to put

on a website to position me as a thought leader even

though, you know, Kyle and Sheila just said, yeah. This sounds a little

old. Before everyone and their grandma had a podcast. Right. It

compares the excitement around podcasting to what was happening with

blogging way back when. Okay. I see where you're going with this. Like, hinting at

a similar kind of boom. Right? Exactly. A surge of

potential. And for anyone looking to actually make money from their

podcast, the article points to this high income demographic

that's listening. Music to any entrepreneur's ears. So I

don't know who these people are. I wanna call them Kyle and

Sheila, maybe. They have their chemistry. They're rolling right along. But the

other thing, if I were to let this play, it said things

like find your niche, know who your audience

is. And, again, this is one of my key

points here. I always say, be careful when you

are using AI to position yourself as an

expert. My favorite is when I have somebody goes, I want to be

a thought leader a thought leader,

and I'm going to have chat gpt write a script. Because

chat gpt just said, yeah. I after 2023, I'm kinda out

of content. And so I want to be a thought leader

by using regurgitated stuff from the Internet. That to

me is a bit of a head scratcher. But when I heard this, I

could listen to that. And I thought, I have all these

PDFs about marketing and such. And the

question I have to ask myself now is because you're like, oh, it's new and

shiny. But if the idea is using this for research,

great. Can I read faster than I listen?

And if I want to make notes, if I go, oh, that's actually really good.

I wanna mention this in my podcast. Is it easier to do that from a

PDF, or is it easier to do it in

a audio player? That's you have to think about what's the

end goal of this. But I was like, In terms of before I

throw out this PDF, I should probably get some sort

of summary to make sure I'm not missing anything. Now realize, all

the PDFs you get as part of some sort of lead magnet by

getting on someone's email is always gonna have a marketing slant. So somewhere in there,

you're gonna get a pitch. But I was like, that's an interesting tool,

and I'll be interested to see how many people use Kyle and

Sheila to make a podcast. Because if you don't feel like talking

into a microphone, you can let Kyle and Sheila. And so are

we eventually gonna give Kyle and Sheila some sort of podcast award?

Like, and the winner in best technology, Kyle and Sheila from the Hey We're

All Fake show. That that would be interesting. The school of

podcasting. If you like plugins, my

buddy, Mike Russell, has a new channel on YouTube called

Creator Magic. And I'll put a link to this video where he points out

a free plugin that you can use in Audacity or

Hindenburg or whatever you're using. And where the built in noise

tool in Audacity is meh. Right? Better than

nothing. It's free. What are you gonna do? This is a free plugin that does

a much better job at removing noise. So if you have

somebody who has a really boomy room or something like that,

you can use this plug in. And, technically, that plug in

is AI. Yay. Yeah. Yeah. The next

tool I have a love hate relationship with, and

that is Descript. Descript, I've been using for

quite some time, and I have a really great tool

called Studio Sound. So as much as I just told you about a

plug in, I would try that if you're in the free category. If you've

got I think my subscription is $30 a month to Descript.

They have a tool inside of Descript called Studio Sound that is

amazing, and I've used it many times to

clean up bad audio. But here's the thing about Descript.

Here's what I love about it. If you are a person that's doing video

and you wanna do audio, Descript is really, I think,

my go to tool for this. And the big magic

of Descript is you upload your video or audio.

It does a transcript for your stuff,

and then you could edit out parts of the text, and it will edit it

out of the audio. And over the years, it's gotten better and better.

And I do a show called Ask the Podcast Coach. I told you about it

earlier. It's 90 minutes. And when that show is

done at noon, there are many times when

I am publishing that after editing it

somewhere around 4 30, 5 o'clock.

And what I'm doing is I'm removing lots,

and I mean, lots of ums, your nose.

So and I realize that's how people talk. We're talking

100 because this is not a show where we know where

we're going. This is a show that's on the fly. And

so there's a lot of ums in your nose and things like that.

And I can go into Descript. Now I

typically say never turn on the remove all.

And you can, if you wanted to, say don't remove them. Let me

review them. Do you want to review 397,

filler words? I do not. So I have it remove

and double words. This this last episode, I said, hey.

Remove double words. So if I say like like or

it was Wednesday, Wednesday was when we did it. It would remove one

of those Wednesdays. And it was 90

minutes. And I listened to it last night. In 90 minutes, there

was one edit that I was like, could've been a

little better. But most of them, you didn't even know

it was edited. So here's the thing. What's more important to

you? Getting 5 hours back, or

do you think that one edit that was kinda,

is that gonna damage your integrity? And this is where being

Dave Jackson, podcast consultant, I used to, like, freak

out on that. Like, no. I'm a podcast consultant. It has to be perfect, and

it kinda has to be. But I was listening for

those types of things. And it was funny because I heard

it. I took a screenshot. I was walking around, got

home, listened to it again, and didn't really hear it.

And so I was like, okay. So I do that.

I then can I've got my my finished edit.

I can have Descript go in and say,

alright. Now add chapters. And that is the question of the month, by the

way, as you listen to this right now. Now if you're listening to this later

in September, we've changed it. But September's question is, how

do you feel about chapters? Do you create them as a listener? Do

you use them? Or are you in the what the heck is a chapter kind

of thing? There's no wrong answer here, by the way. But I have it create

chapters because it's a 90 minute show, and people might

want to skip to another discussion that we had a

little later. So I have it do that. I have it then

do timestamps. There's actually, I just found out I could go

to it and say, give me a YouTube description, and this tool

would automatically write the opening paragraph and make timestamps that I could

just paste into YouTube. And so it's pretty amazing.

And there's a whole I mean, it slices. It dices. It even

julienne's. And you can go in and have it

make clips for you. We're gonna talk about clips here in a second.

You can I mean, it just does everything? And that is one that

I can say the monthly fee I pay for that, I believe

it's $35, is well worth it because it gave me

back my Saturday. So that's something to keep

in mind. But I I am worried about it because I am doing

something I normally never do, which is I'm not

listening all the way through the episode before I publish it.

I'm trusting AI to make those correct.

Because if I listen to it again, again, it's a 90 minute show.

That's a big chunk of time. So I'm I've kind of

slowly kinda pushed my way through that to where I

trusted. And and so I

said all the fun things that I love about it. It gave me back my

Saturday. Dave, what do you hate? There is a never, and I mean,

never ending learning curve to this thing. Unlike other software

where every 6 weeks, they're like, here's some new features, they constantly

update it, which sounds like a good thing, except you're like, hey. Where'd you move

the studio sound? Oh, it's over there now. And then literally, the next day, you

log in, like, oh, it's over there now. So it's a never ending learning

curve. But because I put up with you

know, they gave me back my Saturday, that's worth it. But I do

wish they kind of, like, quit changing things quite so

much. Now there are gonna be a lot of honorable mentions here

because we're gonna slip into video here and talk about

clips and all these, how do I take that 90 minute and

turn it into a 1,000,000 social media clips? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Let's talk clip generators. I just

was going through and making a list of the ones I know. The big one

that you hear a lot of people talk about is OpusClip. And this is where,

again, when you go to their website, it's gonna say

something like, you know, one long video, 10 viral clips.

Create them 10 times faster. Right? Sounds great. Then they're

not lying. They're gonna give you 10 clips. And then there

is things let me go down the list here. There are so many. OpusClip,

BigVU, ClipGen, Momentum,

Flexcut. Hippo Video is one

I need to play with because they have a text to video tool,

Wisecut. And then if you the these are all I

will take a video and set it into 8,000,000

pieces. And that's fine. You just need to

when you're doing a free trial on this, start a

timer. I have a timer sitting here right in front of me,

and I just hit it. And, you know, you could also use your

your phone, whatever, but track your time because you've only got so

much. And there are times when I've used these tools

and the amount of time it took for me to go through

the you know, we gave you 40,000,000 video

clips. And by the time you find the 2 good ones that you wanna use,

you're like, I could've just clipped these myself. And that's where something like

Descript kinda comes in handy. But all of these are supposed to find the good

clips. And I'm not saying they don't find them. I'm also saying they find a

lot of bad ones. And the other thing you have to keep in mind are

2 things. Number 1, you're doing this because you wanna stand out,

hopefully. And the problem is I can spot

an Opus clip because they all look identical. I

mean, they all like and then the other thing that

you need to ask yourself is

when you get sucked down the YouTube shorts or

reels on Facebook or Insta, whatever it is,

how often do you leave

whatever you just saw and go to their

podcast, their YouTube channel, whatever it is?

Me, personally, I don't. In fact, I've

now started putting that timer on because when I go down the YouTube

or reels on Facebook, I keep keep getting sucked into that,

that I'm losing a lot of time watching videos. And

it's really easy to just go, add 1 more, add 1 more, add 1

more. But I've only subscribed, and this is just me. So it's

it's a survey of 1 person. I've only subscribed to

one person's YouTube channel after watching their short

videos, and I saw many of them, and it makes me laugh.

And what's weird is when I went to their YouTube video, their actual

channel, I don't watch their videos because I now feel they're a

little long. It's weird. Now that again is just

me. But for me, I think

shorts, they're not worthless. It's just a branding tool. It's

keeping your name in front of people until your next episode

is out. And if you've got the time, just like I say with everything with

video, if you've got the time and the equipment and the

budget and the desire, by all means, play in video.

It's just you also have to learn the algorithm. But

I just the reason I point these out is they really make it sound

like if you just, you know, take your 40

minute interview and chop it up into bits and I actually am going to start

doing this a little bit. I'm gonna try a strategy. I call this the Conan

O'Brien, where I'm gonna give my ask the podcast coach video

to the awesome supporters. So I'm using,

Supercash or Supercast on that instead of Patreon. But I'm

gonna do that. That's gonna be one of their perks. They get the video. I'm

then gonna chop that video into bits and

pieces and point that towards my audio.

Yeah. I'm gonna try that because Conan O'Brien does that. He'll have

just clips of an interview, and I wanna hear the whole interview, Conan.

And instead, the only way I can listen to the whole audio

interview or the whole interview is to do it via audio. So

there are tons of these. I have links to all of them. I know

OpusClip is really popular. Try them. You

know, hey, Jen is interesting. This is the one where you

clone yourself. And, again, I think as

long as you let people know that this isn't really

you, It looks like spooky, weird, cool.

Because I know for a while, some of that, like, clone yourself video just made

you look like you were in a a Madden football game

on Xbox. But, again, these are getting very, very good. I

will say one thing about the video tools

is if you are someone who does not have

an American accent, you might have an issue.

Now I I saw a review of hey, Jen, and they said, yeah. This doesn't

do very well. And so what he did

was he uploaded the audio himself instead

of typing in the text and letting it do, you know, everything for you. But

that that one, hey, Jen, I was I was this

close to kicking clicking on the button, and I just went, you know what? I

don't want a video clone of me yet. I I just it's it was a

little you know, we all have different levels of how much spooky

stuff can we tolerate, and that was one that I was like so

keep that in mind when it comes to video clips. Take advantage

of the free trials that are often available. Time yourself

and ask yourself, okay. Is this actually saving me time? And

you need to know why you're doing it. Is it saving me time? Is it

actually growing my show? And

is it growing my subscribers? You can get a lot of views on

Shorts. Jen Hardy, a former member of the School of Podcasting,

this Friday is gonna go over 1,000,000 views. So it is a

way to get found. So I don't wanna poo poo video. I always say that

if you got the time and the budget and the need and the desire,

everything else, then by all means, do video. The

Some honorable mentions here. Dave, what about Riverside? We've all heard about

Riverside. I used Riverside years

ago when it first came out. I just saw a demo

at Podcast Movement, and I need to go play

with it. It looks very, very slick. It seems like you can do

everything in that. But here's the thing I want to put out

there about tools like Descript, SquadCast,

Riverside. It seems like all of them have a

cycle, and this is the cycle. Everybody loves

it. It's great. It slices. It dices. It juliennes. It bakes

bread on the weekend. It's amazing. Right? Then

they will add new features. And at that point, there were these things

called bugs. And everybody gets very upset when all of a

sudden you lose a recording, and everybody's like, it's crap. It's

awful. Does anybody know of an alternative? And

then the programmers will fix the bugs,

and everybody will be back to this is the best thing since sliced bread. So

if you go into a Facebook group and

you'll see where somebody goes, hey. I hate insert company here.

Anybody got an alternative? And you'll have one person say, I love this.

I'm not having any problems. You'll have other person say, yep. It's total trash.

I switched to such and such. And then you might switch to

such and such, and it works great until it doesn't. This

is why I always say have a backup going, and it's hard to have a

backup when you're doing video. But if you can, have a backup going because,

eventually, technology is not going to be your friend. So if you're wondering, hey, Dave.

Why didn't you mention Riverside? Because I don't

know. I know a lot of people love it. All I can say, I don't

have any real personal use with that one. And in full

disclosure, all those clip tools I just mentioned, I've used

BigVU. I've played an Opus clip, but I've not

used the other ones. I've just heard about them from other people, and they all

kinda go, yeah. It does the thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I

realized this episode could be about 12 hours long. So I'm gonna drop

2 more here. And I heard about these from my buddy Craig over at

AI Goes To A College. And the first one, if you want to, I

mentioned how chatpt chat g p t and

for the record, nobody can say that consistently without eventually tripping over your

tongue. Chat GPT does not give you

sources, which is kinda scary. And

so I did a an episode of your

podcast website. You can find that at your podcast website. And I was

doing I want to report on what is a bounce page, and is

this really bad for SEO? And so I went to Perplexity

and typed in something like what is a bounce rate and what is it bad

or not? And it spit out an amazing amount of

material because this isn't something that's

time like, it it hasn't changed over time, and it gave me

all of my sources of which I clicked on and

I read. Why? Integrity. We've talked about that. Gotta make sure what's coming out of

my mouth is as true as I can, you know, profess it to

be at this point. That was really cool. Perplexity.ai.

Then we haven't even talked about images today. That's a whole other

thing. I'm just talking about content. And one and,

oh, by the way, these are free. Po has a paid version.

I'm sure all these have paid versions. But po as in Edgar

Allen, po.com is a way to

have chatgpt and Claude, which is another

version of chatgpt, and all these other ones.

And you can go in there and type in one thing.

And let's say it gives you an answer from chatgpt and go, well, what would

Claude say about this? This is really handy if you're doing

images. Like, draw me a picture of a smiling horse with a pair of

headphones. And it spits one out, and you're like, meh. You're

like, alright. Well, let's see what it looks like in DALL E, etcetera,

etcetera. And so it's kind of a multiple

AI tools in one. Again, that's at poe.com.

I'll have links all of this stuff out at school of podcasting.com/950.

I'm gonna call it there. Again, there's a lot of stuff we could talk about,

but I'm sure I'll revisit this. And I'm sure if you have a

tool that you're like, Dave, how did you not talk about this? Again, I'm

just getting my feet a little more wet. I'm moving kind of from

the the 3 foot depth into about 4 or 5 feet depth.

And And if you're like, man, you should've talked about this, would love to hear

it because I will be revisiting this topic in the future. Not so

much next week, but in the future, you're gonna hear me go, hey. We got

one of those AI tool thingies. Kind of those episodes coming up.

So appreciate your feedback. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Again, this episode could have been 12

hours long, but just to kinda summarize what I talked about today.

Number 1, above everything else, in my opinion,

you can't be a thought leader spewing someone else's thoughts. That just

that one just doesn't go through my logical brain. Never,

as in ever, publish AI content without having a human

preview it first. Preferably, that would be you. But if you got a

team, I guess, somebody else. Because you wanna protect your integrity because if you

lose it, you may never get it back. I know

when I was married, I had a stepson that lied to myself

and his mom, and it took a while for us to trust that kid again.

And I really feel AI is best used to help you polish the

content that you create. You know, this could be brainstorming to

help you get the content and then editing and rewriting and

summarizing and, you know, content that that you could have

it listened to to then let you know, do you need to do a deep

dive into that PDF, you know, audio cleanup and

more. And if you're brand new to this,

I'll have links to everything again, school of podcasting.com/950.

Go into chat gpt. And if you don't know what to do, just type

in how should I this is my first time here.

Let me know what I need to do to write a

prompt, and it'll probably just tell you. And you don't have to in the

same way that, you know, sometimes

when, Christians quote quote the bible, we start throwing in thee

and thine and thou, and we start talking King James. You know, you

don't have to talk robot to the

robot. What is the query that I must enter into

thou that that no. Just talk to it like a person

and see what happens. And like I say, I like, perplexity

if I'm doing research for an article because I'm gonna want those

sources. I'm definitely gonna want those sources. And

it can definitely speed things up. It can help. But, also,

keep that timer there because sometimes you think you're saving yourself

some time until you look down at your watch.

One last thing, podindy.com, November 9th. If you like

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There is an online version if you want to order that. If you can't make

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Use the coupon code listener when you sign up on either a

monthly or yearly subscription, and that does come with not 7,

not 14, but 30 days to use it.

If you don't like it, you get a money back guarantee. I'll give you your

money back. Thanks so much for tuning in. Until next week.

Take care. God bless. Class is dismissed.

Take care. God bless. Class is descript. Is

class is descript? Wow. A blooper as we go to the bloopers,

and it it sends you something out of some, you

know, audio audio, a visual tool.

Crap. Come on, mouth. What is the name of that thing anyway? DALL E.

DALL E. Tool for this. Oh, it's go to this website kinda

thing. If you ever want free podcast consultant,

crap. Consulting. Free podcast consulting.

Jeez. Where somebody had written about the

discovery ah, crap. Come on, mouth.